š§µ Olympic Fencing?
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Sep 2022 23:52:40 UTC No. 115460
Not sure if this is supposed to go on /xs/ or /sp/, but what do you think of the sport? All I see on here is HEMA.
I'm trying to get into it and I'm looking to pick up some gear. I probably want to fence Epee. Any recommendations? The club has gear, but a lot of it is gross and sometimes not working, especially for left handed stuff.
Anonymous at Fri, 9 Sep 2022 23:55:29 UTC No. 115461
>>115460
There used to be a sport fencing general on /asp/ so I donāt see why not. I just donāt think thereās a lot of antenna tagfags here
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Sep 2022 00:30:42 UTC No. 115909
>>115460
fun sport! :D
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Sep 2022 15:19:02 UTC No. 117095
>>115460
>foil
gay
>sabre
gay manlets
>epee
For the tall Chads. Do Epee OP
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Sep 2022 23:34:32 UTC No. 117730
Do foil (personal preference)! Epee is also fun. Sabre too. People that get angry about one vs the other are dumb.
I've been fencing 15 years, ask me any questions OP.
What is your budget? Where are you located? I coach a local club and help people pick it out all the time.
Sorry only just found this thread, I see it is 15 days old.
>>115461
FIE wants to bring back capteurs to sabre at least
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 00:42:04 UTC No. 117744
>>117730
What is the learning curve? Do you have to take many lessons and learn theory to be good at it? How much of fencing is genetic?
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 01:16:15 UTC No. 117747
>>117744
Not the guy you replied to but also a foil guy, also fenced a long time, grew up with it. In my opinion fencing has some of the easiest fundamentals to pick up of any martial art, which to me are: advance, retreat, lunge, recover, jump back, parry, riposte, disengage. You can learn all that in a week or two at a basic level and then spend the entire rest of your life getting "good" at fencing, depending on what you mean by "good." I don't think your genetics matter at all except maybe at the absolute highest levels but your general athleticism will make a huge difference. Personally I'm very footwork focused - I think having a good lunge is probably the single most important thing that improves your fencing - imagine suddenly driving off your rear leg and taking one giant leap/step forward - faster you can do that and the more ground you cover the better your lunge is and it's going to be tough if you're super unathletic or out of shape.
It's fun though! A great martial art to get into. You can do a lot of sparring at high intensity and it won't wreck your joints and fuck up your ears like BJJ or fuck up your brain like striking sports.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 03:39:24 UTC No. 117784
>>117744
Learning curve is not an issue. It takes maybe 3, 4 2hr lessons to learn the basics. Theory is a bunch of hogwash, be suspicious of any coach who tries and drill to death the 'proper' parries (as in parry 4, 6, 9...) into you. The best way to improve is the same as with something like Counter-Strike; just fence a LOT and fence people wildly better than you.
The real curve part of the learning curve is simple experience which can't be easily sped up even with the world's best coach. You need to learn a whole new way of moving your body in a coordinated manner and lightning fast decision making.
Being in shape helps, but any good fencer can tell you a chubby, slow 60 year old Romanian dude can easily wipe the floor with jacked up 21 year olds.
Genetics doens't matter, really. Height might seem like it is useful, but that is only true for noob vs noob. Hell I fenced a great foilist who used a #4 blade rather than #5 because he liked how it flicked.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 03:43:18 UTC No. 117786
>>117747
yep one of the hardest things I found with my students is getting them to commit to a big lunge in a bout. So often they fall just a mm short on a feeble lunge, or they take an unnecessary half-step and then hit with still plenty of arm-bend in reserve. New fencers infighting is hilarious regardless.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 04:56:55 UTC No. 117798
>>117730
>What is your budget? Where are you located? I coach a local club and help people pick it out all the time.
OP here, I'm at a college in the midwest and there's a fencing club. There are a few fencers that seem very good, but it's hard for me to judge given that I don't really know I'm doing.
The club members obviously showed me the basics, but they sort of have their own thing going on. Are there any good online resources? Books or videos? I assume that, at some point, it would be worthwhile to get private lessons? Do you have any general tips for someone just starting out? Bad habits that I should avoid forming early?
As far as budget for gear, anything goes as long as it's not outrageously expensive. I'd rather spend the money upfront to get something of decent quality. For now though, at least until I have a better sense of what I want, I'll just plan on using the club's gear.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 05:27:12 UTC No. 117802
>>117798
Online resources are limited to the r/fencing subreddit (the wiki isn't too bad for basic info and links) and yt channels.
Some yt channels:
https://www.youtube.com/user/Cyruso
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCd
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC
Private lessons, try and get a club membership that includes unlimited open fencing alongside the lessons. You NEED to constantly be fencing new people to improve, drills are just a small part.
Bad habits to avoid;
-Using too-large grips. I'm a size 9ish glove and use a small Leon Paul grip (which is slightly smaller than regular Visconti smalls!)
-Not drinking enough! I drink 2+ liters at a tournament, and you should too. So many physical and mental focus issues in fencing are alleviated by being hydrated.
-Not asking for clarification for ref calls you don't understand or disagree with. You should never be confused by a ref's call; if they're getting it 'wrong' then figure out how THEY see the action's priority and change your fencing accordingly for that particular refereeādon't 'fight' it.
There are a bunch of others but these came to mind.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 05:57:47 UTC No. 117804
>>117798
Fencing gear is not too bad to navigate purchasing.
For epee, the cheapest full set to get is the AF one: https://www.absolutefencinggear.com
Good quality, stretchy, NO cotton, glove has proper sizing (7.5, 8, etc), up-to-date mask strap system, easy returns, sizing is spot-on if you follow the guides properly. With some socks and maybe a 6mm wrench thrown in that's about $400 for a complete set. Using proper care, the uniform will last forever. I would strongly recommend getting a pistol grip. French grip epeeists are weirdos. Downsides for this set are;
-It's all Chinese made, if you care about that sort of stuff.
-The blade is absolutely garbage and will break within a month, probably.
-Non-FIE rated equipment. You shouldn't care about this point though, it is irrelevant for a new fencer.
The next step up is PBT, Hungarian. https://shop.pbtfencing.com
An equivalent kit from them is about $620 after shipping. That gets you a FIE blade, FIE whites, FIE mask. A super good deal for entry level FIE, non-Chinese equipment. If you want your name print on the mask/whites, it's cheaper than most other stores too. Just avoid their Balaton line, go for the superlight or stretchfit series of whites.
After that, you're looking at the Leon Paul Team Kit. ~$900 to the states. The GBP is terrible right now against the dollar so I would recommend this outright if you have the dosh.
-LP x-change mask is THE most comfortable mask you can get. This is a fact.
-LP sockets are 1000% better than other sockets.
-LP whites have varying levels of durability, but will be super comfy and light. They do get soaked with sweat easily.
-LP socks are superior to all other fencing socks I have tried.
-Build quality, QC goes from good to ehhh with LP. Some people have terrible luck, I haven't yet.
Don't order LP/PBT from US stores. Always order direct from their respective countries (https://www.leonpaul.com not https://www.leonpaulusa.com)
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 14:07:57 UTC No. 117846
>>117840
oh and make sure to get USA Fencing membership; most clubs require it.
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Sep 2022 21:35:14 UTC No. 118054
I started fencing this year, I noticed what I consider a setback which is that I have trouble visualising what my teacher tells me to do. I get more confident if I know beforehand what techniques Iāll be learning that just going in blind. I want to do some prep work, learning the fundamentals but also getting to know the more advanced stuff so I can be confident. Iāve been thinking about reading some classic books, is this a good approach? If so, give me some recommendations, Iāll start with pic related
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Sep 2022 21:44:01 UTC No. 118058
>>118054
I would say no. watch YouTube videos of fencing tournaments, see what they do, try and match the footwork and blade movement of the victor in each engagement. Books just can't get across the visual information. Plus a lot of it is junk old advice.
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Sep 2022 22:15:03 UTC No. 118066
>>118058
Im talking about techniques that can be referred to with names and such. I can watch all the fencing videos in the world but I wonāt be able to ask about a certain technique if Iām not familiar with the name, and copying someone movements looks good on paper but if you ever really tried to learn about technique, not just in sports, you canāt get the gist of it just by looking. Even if I want to ask about a technique I saw in a video, what am I supposed to say āteach me the 10 point of the 2012 semifinals championship of hungaryā or just say the name of the actual technique?
>>118063
Thanks! Iāll check it out
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Sep 2022 00:16:05 UTC No. 118090
>>118066
Don't overcomplicate yourself. You have attacks, parries, footworkāall can be done an infinite number of ways. Stressing over a perfect 'circle-six' is NOT the way to improve. Don't lock yourself into a finite number of actions. In an actual bout, you never do perfect examples of anything anyways. It's always adjusted for the situation on the fly.
that's not to say Nadi's book will harm your fencing ability, it will be a good read; but I would just try and focus on measurable improvements first and foremost: are you winning bouts against fencers you previously could not?
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Sep 2022 01:21:08 UTC No. 118102
>>118066
Anon >>118090 is trying to hold you back. Remember that the guys who get famous arenāt just good they follow the rule of cool. Focus on only learning the most complex, flashiest and difficult movements and youāll be immortalized in history
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Sep 2022 01:27:17 UTC No. 118103
>>118102
why yes I do flunge at 14-14 why do you ask
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Sep 2022 08:55:48 UTC No. 118139
Fencing > HEMA.
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Oct 2022 14:56:23 UTC No. 120541
>remove fencing arm as target
there I fixed sabre, at least until capteurs come back
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Oct 2022 15:08:25 UTC No. 120542
>>120539
>implying
>>120541
I feel like that would just turn it into foil. Not a saber fencer, but it seems like the majority of cuts are to the arms, and occasionally to the head. Plus, then you could block the side of the body with your arm, further reducing viable target area.
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Oct 2022 15:11:25 UTC No. 120545
>>120542
shoot yeah didn't think about blocking.
Ah well I can't wait for capteurs anyways
Anonymous at Fri, 21 Oct 2022 02:41:36 UTC No. 121610
>visit fencing club
>it's in a dirty run-down building and they have ancient machines/reels from the 90s
why are lots like this?
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Oct 2022 16:54:23 UTC No. 122130
How hard physically is this sport?
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Oct 2022 19:14:52 UTC No. 122141
>>122130
not too bad. You need good legs, good stretching. Some arm strength. It's not like you're lunging up and down the strip for 9 minutes flat per bout, so you don't need serious endurance
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Nov 2022 04:49:08 UTC No. 123386
>>120542
>>120541
Id say a better way would be to increase minimum blade weight and maybe balance so you can ACTUALLY PARRY.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Nov 2022 14:41:17 UTC No. 123416
>last summer I wanted to get into this sport
>mainly to make frens, I don't care about sports
>go to local club
>everyone pro level or something
>lots of women too
>"sorry dude, you either start young or you never do. We don't accept novices either"
Fuck this sport
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Nov 2022 14:42:11 UTC No. 123417
>>123416
some clubs are like that, a lot aren't. I ran a collage club and 1/2 had never fenced before
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Nov 2022 16:51:34 UTC No. 123435
>>123416
based, keeping out used up newfags. get gatekeeped. no one wants you bringing down the club old man.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Nov 2022 17:04:58 UTC No. 123438
I canāt think of a more gay and worthless pursuit than car antenna tag
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Nov 2022 17:28:00 UTC No. 123445
>>117095
>t. doesnt have monkey arms that go past knees to compensate for manletism.
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Nov 2022 21:27:36 UTC No. 123466
>>123438
I can, shitposting about sports you donāt participate in
Anonymous at Thu, 3 Nov 2022 23:24:34 UTC No. 123480
>>123437
If you try epee (or sports in general) as someone under 6ā youāll just get frustrated and quit. Itās a decent way of weeding out fags
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Nov 2022 01:38:28 UTC No. 123499
>>123480
Why do you want to discourage people who want to keep our niche hobbies alive? Is it fun for you to be fucking faggot?
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Nov 2022 01:43:12 UTC No. 123501
>>123499
Just saying physical limitations exist and will stop your progress sooner than later. A 5ā9 manlet will get smashed by a 6ā eppeist every single time. If you want to waste time and energy learning this lesson on your own, go for it but you cant overcome nature.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Nov 2022 01:49:01 UTC No. 123502
>>123501
>this same retard is still going
Lol, lmao even
https://youtu.be/ctZxQp6g1Vs
How tall are you even? Are you a coping lanklet trying to make excuses as to why you donāt need to train or a coping manlet making excuses about why you shouldnāt bother training? Either way youāre pathetic and your ancestors are ashamed
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Nov 2022 13:17:05 UTC No. 123537
>>123499
nta, but why do you hate honesty?
if someone cant take a little bants, they probably dont want to do the thing anyways to any degree.
Ive see way to many communities fall to tempid platitudes that ruin them instead of an actual sense of earned respect or frankness.
id rather have a small group who can take and give punches than have a long line of screeching faggots.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Nov 2022 13:34:05 UTC No. 123540
>>123537
For me i donāt care about them being able to take bants, I genuinely believe that manlets are low test fags and sports like fencing are a waste of their time. Call me a troll but itās true. No decent fencers (epee being the only weapon that matters) exist under 6ā.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Nov 2022 14:20:35 UTC No. 123541
>>123537
>honesty
>bants
Pick one, and also Kys yourself.
>>123540
>call me a troll
Iāll call you a stupid faggot instead.
>epee being the only weapon that matters
Lmao, so do none of the Olympic gold medal foilists count as decent fencers to you? How tall are you even?
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Nov 2022 14:47:13 UTC No. 123546
>>123541
>honesty
>bants
>Pick one
usually dont have too since honest people tend to be able to see the spirit of the law.
yes being short IS a disadvantage flat out unless you got some weird arms. If anon wants to go through with it fine, but its true.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Nov 2022 14:53:08 UTC No. 123547
>>123546
This. If weāre being honest here, Fencing is, like any other pursuit in life, dependent on height and reach. A 5ā9 dude will at the very most be average at the sport and thatās only if heās young and athletic. Technique only gets you so far when your hardware (your body) is fundamentally disadvantaged compared to the average 6ā male. I wouldnāt bother with it at all and stick to sucking cock or whatever short men are good at.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Nov 2022 15:00:20 UTC No. 123548
>>123546
>being short is a disadvantage
>Therefore donāt try to do anything. Your life is over.
>>123547
How tall are you? Why are you even on this board? I guarantee your the same faggot who was posting about how HEMA was pointless if your short in the hema general along with making that gay thread about how only size matters abs only āredditorsā think otherwise. Either start training or fuck off.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Nov 2022 15:58:54 UTC No. 123555
>>123548
>thing is true
>therefor exaggeration for effect
you seem socially inept.
yes anon you physically cannot use swords if you are an inch bellow 6 feet. such on a lemon you aspie.
I dont think 4chan is for you if you take things so seriously.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Nov 2022 16:18:52 UTC No. 123556
>>123555
Itās not exaggeration you fucking retard did you even read the post I originally responded to?
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Nov 2022 16:31:19 UTC No. 123557
>>123556
yes.
>manlet is a manlet
>guy says no one under 6 should play sports in general manifestly.
>you freak out.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Nov 2022 17:29:59 UTC No. 123562
>>123558
>your exaggerating
I said he gave an exaggeration, not that You exagerated.
you can also say its fine to do it too. Just found it weird you got annoyed on absolutely common hyperbole, which anon applied to all sportz.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Nov 2022 18:07:59 UTC No. 123565
>>123562
Heās in every thread. Itās obnoxious. I want to see people succeed and thereās a specific demographic of retard that spends too much time on /fit/ that will legitimately become discouraged if they believe thereās a consensus that short people canāt fence.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Nov 2022 19:17:06 UTC No. 123574
>>123565
No one who actually fences unironically believes that short people canāt fence. Iāve been fencing for years and I get my ass handed to me by people much shorter fairly often simply because theyāre better or have trained longer. Shockingly, 4chan is full of trolls and people who donāt train, therefore nothing posted in /xs/ should be taken seriously.
Anonymous at Fri, 4 Nov 2022 19:27:48 UTC No. 123576
>>123574
Fair enough
Anonymous at Sat, 5 Nov 2022 16:31:18 UTC No. 123706
>>123501
Aren't you that cry baby faggot from the other thread? Do you even do fencing? You should unironically kill your "self" that is the faggy person that you are, but you're too miserable to let it go unfortunately
Anonymous at Thu, 10 Nov 2022 01:02:32 UTC No. 124284
Op here. Iām quitting fencing as I am only 5ft 11.75in. As an inferior manlet, I will never be good and itās not worth trying.
More seriously, Iāve got picrel. Itās helpful, but I still feel like I canāt understand whatās going on past 1 or 2 actions, and I have no sense of what my opponent is about to do, when they are feinting, etc.
I also havenāt won olympic gold yet, despite the clear promise in the title.
Does anyone have any good learning materials for beginner fencers? Stuff that also covers how you should modify your technique when going against someone of opposite handedness would also be nice.
Or should I just keep grinding, and improve through experience?
Anonymous at Thu, 10 Nov 2022 01:11:50 UTC No. 124285
>>124284
I'm 5'6" and I came top 10 at states once, shut the fuck up and get good. Seriously just fence people way better than you.
If you're near NH/ME I'd be happy to give you lessons btw
Anonymous at Thu, 10 Nov 2022 02:00:05 UTC No. 124289
>>124285
Thanks for the offer, but unfortunately Iām not near there. Iāll just keep showing up to practice and fencing I suppose. A lot of the club members will give me pointers when I fence them, so itās been good. Plus theyāre all a lot better than me lol
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Dec 2022 00:08:06 UTC No. 127424
en bumpe
šļø Anonymous at Wed, 21 Dec 2022 17:26:58 UTC No. 130006
Dead sport lmao
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Dec 2022 21:45:40 UTC No. 130028
>>130006
nah
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Dec 2022 21:49:42 UTC No. 130029
>>130006
Itās in the olympics
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Dec 2022 22:00:36 UTC No. 130030
>>130029
so is 'swimming'
like lol that's like making 'running' a sport.
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Jan 2023 09:03:18 UTC No. 131180
>>120541
Thats one of the most stupid suggestions I ever heard. Hands and arms are the most important target if it should have at least a semblance to real fencing. How about improving saber by punishing double hits instead of just going with the flow of two suicidal idiots jumping at each other.
And before someone comes with the excuse "its not about real fighting anymore"... FINE, if its not about real fighting anymore than we should give the name fencing to the HEMA guys and call us "antenna tag". I am really sick about the fact everyone seems go be oblivious to the simple fact that fencing is about simulating swordfighting.
Anonymous at Mon, 2 Jan 2023 15:35:37 UTC No. 131200
>>131180
I think less bs priority from foot movement (give more simuls) and a time on target element for blade-lame contact to pop a light (20ms?) would be interesting in sabre. Those suuuuupppeerrrrr light 2ms 'hits' just feel wrong.
Anonymous at Tue, 3 Jan 2023 06:29:04 UTC No. 131272
I don't think I have personally seen fencing offered outside of academic schools. Usually universities and posh private schools.
Even then I haven't seen it outside of large major cities.
I don't think it's a easy sport to get into outside of such places.
Anonymous at Thu, 19 Jan 2023 07:14:05 UTC No. 132785
>>117095
Sabre is realistic and you're a cunt.
t. manlet
Anonymous at Thu, 19 Jan 2023 07:17:05 UTC No. 132786
>>124284
Find a school that has a basic familiarity. At least to understand parries for lunges.
Anonymous at Thu, 19 Jan 2023 16:14:29 UTC No. 132806
>>132785
Classical saber is cool ;)
Anonymous at Thu, 19 Jan 2023 18:22:01 UTC No. 132813
>high cost for equipment
>nearest club next state over
>no way of meeting people who fence
If the sport is so popular, why is barrier of entry so high?
Anonymous at Thu, 19 Jan 2023 18:28:22 UTC No. 132814
>>132813
equipment cost isn't that bad.
$160 gets you a dry starter set, but most clubs have newbie gear to loan out
Finding people to fence is a challenge, but I live in the midwest and we have plenty of clubs here so idk.
Anonymous at Thu, 19 Jan 2023 19:30:55 UTC No. 132823
>>132776
As much as it pains me to say, but in 20 years HEMA will replace fencing in the olympics. Way more people like to train it and way more like to watch it. sure, at first it will be innocent, longsword as the first one to be allowed, then more and more while the pressure on fencing increases to give up space for HEMA. And then, one day, they drop the last fencing competition because the ratings are just to low.
You may onot like it, but fencing killed itself when they allowed it to stray from its path of simulating real combat.
T. A guy who fences but still never watches olymic fencing.
Anonymous at Thu, 19 Jan 2023 19:36:41 UTC No. 132824
>>132823
>You may onot like it, but fencing killed itself when they allowed it to stray from its path of simulating real combat.
Well modern fencing is a sport, not combat.
While HEMA is closer to combat, there are moves and things you cannot do because they're too dangerous. This is why we have sports.
Anonymous at Thu, 19 Jan 2023 23:01:41 UTC No. 132837
>>132823
>>132824
Well, the major difference between the two really is one of mentality more than anything else.
The core of HEMA, by definition, is its intention towards historical recreation. Of course, from this spawns satellite intentions, like people really like using the longswrod, so they sportify it more as the intention drifts from recreation to compition, getting closer to Olympic in nature. IMO the difference between hema and modern fencing is more of a spectrum more than anything.
Like, the difference between foil and smallsword, or olympic and military saber is more one of degrees. what is the weight range allowed, How do you disincentivize doubles (like Olympics right of way), etc. If you strip them both down to mere mechanics, they really aren't separate spheres. Its more separation in intent.
Literally with just a few tweaks to Olympic, it would be Early Modern Hema sparring (saber, smallsword, maybe rapier, but more epee du combat, which was somewhat between rapier and smallsword). Im personally for Olympic stripping and enforcing some more Hema like rulesets that I think would make the sport both more entertaining, as well as technical. Most of the specificness of Olympic really only developed as a process of rules lawyering anyways, like flicks or minimizing weight to the extreme. Things that are, again, more artifacts of exploiting technicalities over dozens of years in the 1900's. Id prefer something of a middleground between ultra sportification and historical authenticity.
I think its disingenuous to say that a draw of olympic fencing ISNT the idea of swordfighting, its in the name, fencing. And rules should be there to encourage this as a premise. rather than a weird nebulousness between sword and sticktag that uses calcified rules to justify its own existence. But at the same time, there should be firm perimeters that allow for excellence of play in a quantifiable way.
thank you for listening to my ted talk.
Anonymous at Thu, 19 Jan 2023 23:08:14 UTC No. 132838
>>132837
My idealized distinction would be:
That a Hema competition would judge things based on their simulated effectuality given historical context. Something that relies more on judges for resolution, something more qualitative.
Whilst Sports Fencing still give due diligence to the nature of swordsmanship in general, but rely on more hard and fast rules that have referees and more or less cut and dry resolutions, something more quantitative.
Anonymous at Fri, 20 Jan 2023 00:55:02 UTC No. 132849
>>123540
>2016 Olympic gold medalist for epee is a 5'10 Korean
Huh?
Anonymous at Fri, 20 Jan 2023 01:26:55 UTC No. 132853
>>132849
5'10 in korean feet is 6'3 in imperial.
Anonymous at Fri, 20 Jan 2023 01:33:59 UTC No. 132856
>>132853
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rom
Anonymous at Fri, 20 Jan 2023 04:43:45 UTC No. 132869
>>132813
>high cost
LOL
a top-grade Leon Paul set is like $1100, that's like a shitty AR15 with a shitty optic. Compared to shooting this sport is cheap af.
Anonymous at Sat, 21 Jan 2023 01:02:52 UTC No. 132978
>>132869
To be fair, guns have more practical uses
>Self/home defense
>Marksmanship
>Hunting
While fencing gear can only really be used FOR fencing
Anonymous at Sat, 21 Jan 2023 01:05:30 UTC No. 132979
>>132978
true; I did just spend $1200 on a shotty for trap shooting though.
Hey it's still cheaper than having a horse
Anonymous at Sat, 21 Jan 2023 09:52:12 UTC No. 133015
>>132869
>>132978
Only in murrica you have that kind of freedom. In germany the government currently wants to ban owning semi automatic guns.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Jan 2023 03:46:05 UTC No. 134209
>>123416
not a good sport for meeting new people. mostly kids using it as a backdoor to elite universities
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Jan 2023 04:19:07 UTC No. 134212
>try fencing in college
>get heemed stiff by the one guy in the club that's been doing it since he was 5
>everyone else is shit like me so we all just take turns getting poked by the captain and then flailing at each other like retards
seems like I was born into the wrong wealth bracket to enjoy this semen slurping sport bros.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Jan 2023 04:29:57 UTC No. 134213
>>134212
are you improving? is it not fun to at least fence your co-noobs?
I find fencing a really good fencer fun even if I lose 15-1, because I learn so much from that one touch I get
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Jan 2023 04:36:41 UTC No. 134215
>>134212
>be bad
>be mad that someone who has trained more is better
>instead of training harder decide to give it up because somehow being a poorfag is an answer
You have a losers attitude. I bet your a loser in a lot of areas in your life.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Jan 2023 04:39:02 UTC No. 134216
>>134215
video game ELO-type matchmaking has ruined a generation
people expect to win ~50% of everything as default since in the vidya they get matched against similar rank people
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Jan 2023 14:37:11 UTC No. 134239
>>134212
This is a hard blackpill to swallow. If you didn't start something young you probably won't ever be great at it. Not just fencing although the money can make this particular sport even harder to improve in
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Jan 2023 16:02:02 UTC No. 134246
>>134239
>donāt do things you like because you didnāt start as a child. Resign yourself to misery or only doing things youāre already good at
Why are there so many bitter losers on this board?
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Jan 2023 16:55:21 UTC No. 134252
>>134239
Wrong, retard.
It's just that your ways of learning become more set in their ways and less people care to give you advice the older you get.
You can learn anything, anytime. It will always take time, but anything you can improve at gradually you can master.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Jan 2023 17:16:48 UTC No. 134255
>>134252
This, it takes 10,000 hours to become a master of a given skill. Whether or not you can reach that number at a given age is entirely dependent on how much time you want to put into it.
If youāre 20 and out 10 hours a week into fencing you can be a master by 40.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Jan 2023 19:34:54 UTC No. 134268
>>134246
>>134252
For most people it's true because they aren't interested in the journey but rather the destination
>>134255
I think this is a bad way of thinking because even though you put time into something doesn't mean you will automatically be good at it. a lot of people have a bad mindset of feeling like they deserve to improve just because they put in the hours
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Jan 2023 19:42:55 UTC No. 134270
>>134268
Those people arenāt actually putting in the hours then, theyāre just phoning it in. Youāre probably right though. To git gud you have to go through the process of gitting rather than just being gud. I suspect this why most people drop a martial art within 2 months to 2 years.
Anonymous at Fri, 10 Feb 2023 02:54:09 UTC No. 135428
>>134239
You can start something young and not be good at it, and you can start something late and go on to master it.
I'd argue that fencing is one of the better sports to choose if you start late. You don't need to be in your physical prime to be a good fencer.
Anonymous at Mon, 13 Feb 2023 21:14:47 UTC No. 135807
>>134212
>>134212
Are you joking? This sounds like a great environment to learn in
-Readily-available reference for what a "good" fencer is who you can fight too (important)
-Many other fencers who are at your skill level
-They will likely develop different fencing styles you can learn from
-Gameplay loop is get crushed by captain, think about how you could've played differently, test out new ideas on newbies
idk man I'd say stick with it and try to kindle some sort of rivalry with the new people at the club and you'll start to really chase after those wins
Anonymous at Wed, 15 Feb 2023 05:23:50 UTC No. 135960
>>135959
Pistol of course, even for epee. I use a small LP Zer0
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Mar 2023 20:21:09 UTC No. 137737
>>137683
Yes but probably doesnāt belong in this thread
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Mar 2023 20:31:42 UTC No. 137740
I need a new gym type duffle bag for everything but my weapons, what get? (so whites, lame, mask, water, cords, etc)
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Mar 2023 21:03:35 UTC No. 137744
>>137740
Just get a regular duffel bag anything else is a waste of money
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Mar 2023 21:17:58 UTC No. 137747
>>137744
that's what I was thinking, but everything seems to be made in china crap with suspicious reviews, down to the $50 level. Maybe I'll spring for an LL Bean or something. I'm just sick of zippers and seams falling apart on my soft goods I buy
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Mar 2023 22:27:44 UTC No. 137754
>>137747
Iāve bought expensive bangs and the same shit still happens. At least I donāt have to care about replacing some shit I bought at Walmart for 20 dollars
Anonymous at Sat, 4 Mar 2023 02:43:27 UTC No. 137908
>check out new club
>they have THREE Hungarian coaches
wtf Hungary chill out
Anonymous at Sat, 4 Mar 2023 17:30:10 UTC No. 137955
>>132869
>$1100, that's like a shitty AR15 with a shitty optic
You can do a poverty pony build for like $460. Anderson lower and parts kit, cheap PSA upper. Slap an $80 Bushnell TRS-25 on it, get a bunch of $8 polymer mags, and spend the rest on ammo (or better yet, a progressive press and components).
Anonymous at Mon, 13 Mar 2023 22:07:22 UTC No. 138963
>>115460
I want to be able to fence people with an electronic scoring system in my driveway. When I dabbled in fencing it was with the club at college so I never had my own equipment. What kind of money am I going to have to set aside to have an adequate setup for myself and loaner equipment for 2-3 guests?
Anonymous at Tue, 14 Mar 2023 01:52:14 UTC No. 138991
>>138963
EnPointe wireless reels ($800) + VSM [virtual scoring machine] & remote ($275) + old laptop ($0) = strip setup.
$150 tools; wrenches, tape, soldering iron, wire strippers, multimeter, test weights, lighter, shims, all of the bits you need to armorerer.
$20 15-meter tape measure and chalk for marking the piste. Also, please don't fence on a hard surface like a driveway if you can. Your body will be destroyed over time.
10-piece foil kits (because you ARE doing foil, right?) are $450 from Absolute Fencing. Durable stuff, besides the blade. This is honestly a good deal, it saves you like $180 over buying parts separately.
If you wwaaaaaaantttt to you can do epee I guess, which lowers the cost a bit. No lame, no mask with bib, no mask cord. And, you can get away with using the shitty favero wireless system. It's not terrible with epee.
Keep in mind, those 10-piece kits all have bags and knickers, neither of which are critical for noobs you're lending stuff to. But if you try and be sneaky and buy piecemeal, you end up losing money sort of over not having bought the kits.
Sizing isn't that big a deal for loaner stuff. Large masks work with 95% of people even if they are wobbly on the small-heads out there. Size ~9.5 gloves cover most people too. Just try and go a tad over the average, if you know the size category of the people you'll be introducing to the sport
thanks for trying to get people to try fencing out though!
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Mar 2023 06:37:34 UTC No. 140226
>>138991
>because you ARE doing foil, right?
Leaning towards epee since the foil and saber portions of this old project are incomplete. What do you think of this /diy/ scoring box?
https://github.com/wnew/fencing_sco
>if you know the size category of the people you'll be introducing to the sport
I have friends who are freakishly tall and some who are rather short. I'll let the more financially stable ones buy their own kit and try to accommodate the poorfags as well as my semi-poorfag self can.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 Mar 2023 22:40:38 UTC No. 140319
>>140254
I figure the beeps and the boops and the flashy lights and scoreboard will help keep the attention of people who are used to being glued to their skinner box nightmare bricks. It also seemed reasonable that if I were buying loaner equipment it would be better to get the electrical stuff and fence dry with the intent of upgrading later than to get non-electrical and have to pay to replace it with electrical on top of getting the reels and scoring apparatus.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Mar 2023 02:15:42 UTC No. 140332
I bet the olympic fencer of japan gets lots of pussy but the one in the U.S. gets no pussy you know what I mean
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Apr 2023 18:19:26 UTC No. 142550
I hate back flicks
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Apr 2023 18:31:50 UTC No. 142551
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Apr 2023 17:37:06 UTC No. 144074
Bump, I like fencing.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Apr 2023 18:11:52 UTC No. 144079
>>144074
me too! Wish a NAC would come my way
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Apr 2023 18:44:54 UTC No. 144081
>>144079
We should go fencing anon
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Apr 2023 19:50:08 UTC No. 144087
>>144081
where you at, I'm in Denver
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Apr 2023 22:31:21 UTC No. 144106
Can anyone suggest a youtibe channel where it's just 20+mins of matches or bouts?
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Apr 2023 02:24:39 UTC No. 144136
>>144106
just sub to all of these
https://www.youtube.com/user/Cyruso
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCd
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC
couple of em are what you seek, no I won't say which
Anonymous at Sun, 21 May 2023 05:55:04 UTC No. 147151
yellow card for almost going off the end of the --strip-- board!
Anonymous at Wed, 24 May 2023 22:45:24 UTC No. 148061
>>117095
epee is great for beginners, bout it
Anonymous at Thu, 25 May 2023 17:38:11 UTC No. 148160
>>132785
>realistic
>tip bends into opponent's forearm
nigger please
Anonymous at Sun, 4 Jun 2023 04:56:50 UTC No. 149723
>>148160
we need capteurs back
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Jun 2023 21:03:33 UTC No. 151196
>>144106
fencing vision
Anonymous at Fri, 16 Jun 2023 20:42:48 UTC No. 151696
>>123437
I'm 5'6" and compete in sabre, and regularly trash people who are 6'+. It's a skill issue if you lose, at least in sabre
Anonymous at Sat, 17 Jun 2023 01:46:04 UTC No. 151725
>>151696
Why is that? Because itās cut focused?
šļø Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jul 2023 08:59:54 UTC No. 154347
>>115460
Sure
Anonymous at Thu, 20 Jul 2023 20:00:15 UTC No. 157469
red card for getting to page 9
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Aug 2023 05:54:53 UTC No. 160335
LIVE, DAMNIT
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Aug 2023 06:25:37 UTC No. 160338
I need new shoes
what get
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Aug 2023 07:01:38 UTC No. 160341
I don't understand the relationship with HEMA though. Could you do epee with a HEMA opponent? If so, is fencing a subset of HEMA?
Anonymous at Tue, 8 Aug 2023 03:38:10 UTC No. 160563
>>160341
Historical European Martial Arts (HEMA) is a very broad umbrella term for various interrelated academic and athletic pursuits. Olympic fencing is a specific standardized system of modern sport fencing. Olympic fencing probably technically falls under the umbrella of HEMA but I would guess it's more common to see it as HEMA-adjacent rather than a subset of HEMA.
Anonymous at Tue, 8 Aug 2023 06:24:45 UTC No. 160577
>>115460
I love watching it but unless you started as a kid and have god tier genetics you will be the slowest person training
Anonymous at Tue, 8 Aug 2023 12:11:49 UTC No. 160615
>>160577
I go to a college fencing club nearby and like half of the people training are fat/unathletic. Reminds me of the shitty HEMA club I used to go to.
Anonymous at Tue, 8 Aug 2023 14:33:08 UTC No. 160634
>>160615
Iāve done both and I donāt know why some people assume the same sword nerds that get into HEMA arenāt also filling up sport fencing and kendo classes
>>160563
The thing about HEMA is that itās a revival of dead systems through historical research and experimental archaeology. Sport fencing has a living lineage which by definition makes it not HEMA
Anonymous at Tue, 8 Aug 2023 16:12:35 UTC No. 160659
>>160615
>>160634
>I go to a college fencing club nearby and like half of the people training are fat/unathletic. Reminds me of the shitty HEMA club I used to go to.
>Iāve done both and I donāt know why some people assume the same sword nerds that get into HEMA arenāt also filling up sport fencing and kendo classes
This has been my observation, as well.
>>160634
>Sport fencing has a living lineage which by definition makes it not HEMA
Olympic-style fencing is a European martial art and its lineage is historical. Whether or not it's HEMA depends on how exactly you're splitting hairs and about which points you most wish to be a purist--one could argue (and I've seen it argued) that HEMA sport fencers whose interests are purely athletic and non-academic aren't really doing HEMA either.
Anonymous at Fri, 11 Aug 2023 21:32:54 UTC No. 161214
Starting out foil would be beneficial to learn good basics because epee makes you sloppy and lazy. I used to be decent at foil and then switched to epee because "it's cooler" and nowadays all I do is hand sniping jittery morons and losing to more technical fencers.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Aug 2023 14:21:03 UTC No. 161488
>>161214
It's not that ƩpƩe makes you lazy it's that you're lazy at baseline without outside rules forcing you to be more disciplined, which is why you lose to self-motivated ƩpƩe fencers who supply their own standards of discipline.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Aug 2023 01:00:05 UTC No. 161759
I've been reading around both in this thread and wider on the internet. My impression is that HEMA offers the better community while Olympic/modern is a lot more elitist but weirdly also cheaper?
Not OP but interested in choosing between the two to make some friends while simultaneously not getting a ton of shit for starting at zero at 34. I live in a major city so I can choose really but both of them have intro lessons next month and I know that I'd pick whatever I start with. Of course the moment a fencer goes into HEMA he quickly pastes everyone because he's got shit like timing down but I guess I'll be an autistic loser getting poked to death by children no matter what I pick.
>>132823
This also seems like something where it needs to adapt or die which it seems to be trying to do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5J
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Aug 2023 01:07:03 UTC No. 161761
>>161759
what city? I strongly suggest fencing over HEMA
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Aug 2023 01:14:14 UTC No. 161764
>>161761
London so there's plenty of choice but I'm worried about getting the right community as there's a lot of people in the city who are just outright hostile.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Aug 2023 01:17:51 UTC No. 161765
>>161764
it's hard to find hostile fencers, I've been fencing for 15 years. You can find hostile older coaches, but that's easy to avoid. Just don't be a 14 year old with obsessive parents.
Just go to the Leon Paul club lol
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Aug 2023 03:09:54 UTC No. 161783
>>161759
>I've been reading around both in this thread and wider on the internet. My impression is that HEMA offers the better community while Olympic/modern is a lot more elitist but weirdly also cheaper?
I did sport fencing before HEMA and while I enjoy the latter more the community is literally the worst thing about it. For every serious historical fencer thereās three retarded dysgenics trying to make everything about transgender politics and accusing people who make accurate historical statements nazis. While thereās plenty of fat nerds in fencing Iāve never felt like I had to walk on egg shells around trannies in order to avoid having a twitter mob sent after my workplace.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Aug 2023 12:07:26 UTC No. 161830
>>161783
(you) are the problem
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Aug 2023 13:01:44 UTC No. 161835
>>161830
>suck tranny cock or youāre the problem
Nah
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Aug 2023 13:41:25 UTC No. 161839
>>161835
Do you fence with huge tranny dildos at your club or something? Fucking autist.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Aug 2023 14:01:08 UTC No. 161841
>>161783
>accurate historical statements
Why are you getting on your soap box about historical shit at an olympic fencing club? What is there to be gained besides turning people against you? Just shut up and fence.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Aug 2023 14:07:04 UTC No. 161842
>click on any fencing YouTube video
>comments are full of anonymous posters saying how shit fencing is compared to HEMA
Itās all so tiresome
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Aug 2023 14:08:52 UTC No. 161843
>>161841
>reading comprehension
Iām talking about HEMA you dunce. I do shut up and fence. Itās the faggots that wonāt that I have a problem with.
>>161839
No but there are a very loud select few that would if offered
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Aug 2023 14:09:55 UTC No. 161844
>>161842
Those people arenāt good at HEMA either, I gurantee you. Iām telling you this as a HEMA fencer with an absurd amount of wins and medals, most hemafags are good at reading not fencing.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Aug 2023 14:16:03 UTC No. 161846
>>161844
I looked at a few of their channels, the handful that had HEMA videos were kinda flailing in their backyards with solo montante or Viking shields with rattan sticks, not very historical.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Aug 2023 14:33:37 UTC No. 161848
>>161846
>solo montante
That actually is typically how montante was trained historically
> Viking shields with rattan sticks
Probably SCAtards, not HEMA. In fact even worse. They no joke actually LARP as knights and the organization heads are called lords of various kingdoms who everyone has to respect and do as they say, lol.
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Aug 2023 20:18:24 UTC No. 162163
>>161759
Sports fencers = ranges from normie to elitist
HEMA = weirdos AT BEST
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Aug 2023 20:57:02 UTC No. 162165
>>162163
>Normie to elitist
I said it earlier in the thread but thereās plenty of autistic d&d nerds sport fencing as well
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Aug 2023 21:47:11 UTC No. 162170
>>162165
those guys piss me off
They tried to invite me to a D&D thing after fencing practice one day
nerds
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Aug 2023 22:10:41 UTC No. 162172
>>162170
Back when I did sport fencing there was this weirdo Asian guy who would act like he was drawing his foil from a scabbard before every bout. I never said anything but it made me laugh every time.
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Aug 2023 01:00:27 UTC No. 162194
>>162172
based samurai
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Aug 2023 04:54:59 UTC No. 162209
>semester starts next week
>another crop of freshmen to attempt to teach fencing to
>only 5% of them will stick around after two weeks of practice, as is tradition
kill me
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Aug 2023 09:04:12 UTC No. 162231
>>115460
I tried fencing when I was a kid and immediately found the utter elitism, the snobbish atmosphere you'd breathe in at every step, repulsive. I'd hoped it was restricted to just that specific local club, but frankly every time I see something out of this sport, it gives me that same feeling. That accident during the olympics with the judges being utterly retarded with the timers convinced me that the entire thing is populated with boorish assholes who are more interested in delusions of elegance and romanticism than having an actually fun sport. You seem pretty enthusiastic about it, though, so I hope you have a much better experience than I did.
>>118139
>>123416
>>123435
>>162170
>>162172
They're in this thread, too.
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Aug 2023 15:53:15 UTC No. 162287
>>162231
Filtered.
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Aug 2023 18:27:50 UTC No. 162306
OP here, returning after a year. I was unable to attend college last spring. Should I go back to the fencing club? I did it for the entire fall semester last year but Iāve gotten lazy and out of shape again.
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Aug 2023 18:30:06 UTC No. 162307
>>162306
do it
fencing is what is getting me back into shape
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Aug 2023 00:06:17 UTC No. 162359
>>161848
>They no joke actually LARP as knights and the organization heads are called lords of various kingdoms who everyone has to respect and do as they say, lol.
In my experience the titles are just giving flair to administrative roles within the organization and the squires who listen to knights are no different than the fencers who listen to their coaches and team captains. Some people do get more LARPy with it than others but it's not a proper LARP like Darkon, Amtgard, or NERO.
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Aug 2023 00:08:51 UTC No. 162361
>>162306
>Should I go back to the fencing club?
Why wouldn't you? You'll get fatter and worse at fencing if you just sit at home with your thumb up your ass.
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Aug 2023 00:56:54 UTC No. 162366
>>162363
>what if they don't remember me
You would have the information advantage when re-making friends.
>what if I look retarded and I spill my spaghetti
That's the point of practice. If anyone were perfect and poised they wouldn't need to be there. Don't worry about looking retarded in front of the autistic beekeepers playing tag, you're all in good company.
Anonymous at Sun, 20 Aug 2023 02:42:52 UTC No. 162558
anyone in Denver want to fence
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Aug 2023 03:11:48 UTC No. 162907
I need a new fie sabre glove what get
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Aug 2023 00:25:18 UTC No. 163070
>>163069
I ended up getting an Uhlmann
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Aug 2023 02:10:37 UTC No. 163436
>>136181
this is the only correct answer
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Aug 2023 19:56:13 UTC No. 164093
>>161783
What weapon in HEMA do you fight with?
Anonymous at Mon, 28 Aug 2023 20:07:18 UTC No. 164096
>>164093
Competitively? Saber and longsword. I dabble in lots of other things as well but those are the two Iāve actually competed in.
Anonymous at Tue, 29 Aug 2023 07:24:24 UTC No. 164166
>>164096
How's olympic saber fencing transfers for HEMA saber? I guess it transfers bad to HEMA long sword
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Sep 2023 22:57:28 UTC No. 165580
>>160615
I had to trash 3 fatsos who didn't have the stamina to go more than 5 bouts, they will probably never come back to the fencing club either. I tried to get my friend who expressed vague interest in fencing to join (not obese but still kind of fat) and he twisted his ankle in the first bout against me and will probably never try again because of that, why does it have to be so hard to recrooot people? Why are 90% of the people that want to try fencing fat? Why doesn't swordsmanship have more appeal? I bet it's mostly just because the fencing suit and the swords look lame
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Sep 2023 17:11:24 UTC No. 165702
>>164166
You have to consider that the skills that make a good fencer are a lot more than just the movements of the hand and wrist. Distance management, footwork, reaction time, the ability to recognize a feint, predicting an opponents movements before they do them, etc. all this shit is helpful regardless of what weapon youāre using.
All that said, my coach nearly went to the Olympics for saber, and now is an excellent HEMA saber fencer despite being over 40 with zero cartiledge left in his knees. Heās pretty good at longsword too, though obviously that takes some time to transition to.
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Sep 2023 17:13:35 UTC No. 165703
>>165580
Because most people in the modern day who have athletic talent are going to do sports that win them social status and money. Do you think the knight of yesteryear was a fat anime nerd? No he was chad thundercock jousting because thatās what was popular. Modern chads are playing football and basketball.
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Sep 2023 21:52:53 UTC No. 165761
>>165703
>because most people in the modern day who have athletic talent are going to do sports that win them social status and money
>modern chads are playing football and basketball
But making decisions based on what you think will win you the most approval from normalfags is probably the least "chad" mindset you can cop. Chads aren't chads because they chase normie clout by conforming as hard as possible, they are chads because they're chads. I've duelled many guys I would definitely classify as "chad" as well (one was even a national champion who got me 15 - 1)
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Sep 2023 22:04:06 UTC No. 165762
>>165761
>But making decisions based on what you think will win you the most approval from normalfags is probably the least "chad" mindset you can cop
lol
>I've duelled many guys I would definitely classify as "chad" as well
>duelled
Lmao even.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Sep 2023 00:53:51 UTC No. 165797
>>165762
What are you trying to say faggot?
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Sep 2023 01:24:32 UTC No. 165800
VISCONTI
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Sep 2023 01:26:43 UTC No. 165802
>>165797
You think chads donāt have high social intelligence. That is retarded in the first place. The fact that you called a bout a duel is just cringe icing on your retard cake.
šļø Anonymous at Sat, 9 Sep 2023 03:12:21 UTC No. 165823
https://discord.gg/N37M9Ny
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Sep 2023 03:14:17 UTC No. 165824
>>165823
dare I even click on this
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Sep 2023 03:14:36 UTC No. 165825
>>165823
>discord
Howās transition going?
Anonymous at Mon, 11 Sep 2023 19:42:55 UTC No. 166206
>>117798
why don't you join their club?
Anonymous at Mon, 11 Sep 2023 20:27:57 UTC No. 166214
>>161842
The majority of these people can't last more than five minutes of physical exercise. HEMA is unironically the containment zone for those who want to act like an swordsman go without doing any training. I view it as a sort of blessing to pull away the undesirables from joining our club.
These people are no different than the weebs of yesteryear who watched anime and trained in their backyard; except they're worse: because now they argue from on top of Dunning-Kruger's Mt. Stupid and cite manuscripts.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Sep 2023 12:17:56 UTC No. 166635
I think Iām going to just own my insecurities and join the local fencing club. Iāve thought of every possible excuse not to start fencing (reading all the negative comments on YouTube and Reddit calling it gay, believing Iām too short to fence well at 5ā9.5ā, convincing myself I donāt have free time even though I spend hours scrolling, etc.). These are all just excuses to be lazy and not do things I would enjoy.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Sep 2023 15:01:07 UTC No. 166664
>>166635
good! make sure to do foil
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Sep 2023 15:10:05 UTC No. 166665
>>166664
Why foil specifically?
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Sep 2023 15:15:34 UTC No. 166666
>>166665
sabre is just too gamified in its current form (1ms contact for hit, no feet crossing, slowing down replay videos to .0001% to see who's hand went forward first...).
epee doesn't have enough athleticism /movement in the current meta; you do the hop game with your opponent, find an opening, and lunge to the arm somewhere. Repeat until you have a lead then just go for doubles and wait to get the V. eh.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Sep 2023 15:17:17 UTC No. 166668
>>166666
Gotcha
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Sep 2023 15:25:41 UTC No. 166669
>>166214
Cope
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Sep 2023 19:01:23 UTC No. 166708
>>123480
Just do Kendo or BJJ if you are a short guy.
šļø Anonymous at Thu, 14 Sep 2023 19:53:31 UTC No. 166722
>>166708
I donāt think short dudes are any less disadvantaged in kendo or BJJ than fencing. You just gotta accept it and do your best to overcome your disadvantage.
Anonymous at Thu, 14 Sep 2023 22:02:48 UTC No. 166739
>>166669
Called out.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Sep 2023 13:59:37 UTC No. 166849
>>166708
Total meme. Tall people are still advantaged in BJJ and Kendo. You might as well just suck it up and do what you enjoy instead of looking for the āidealā sport/martial art for short dudes. Gotta try to overcome your physical limitations.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Sep 2023 18:05:41 UTC No. 167075
>>166666
the get for the foil...
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Sep 2023 18:23:52 UTC No. 167077
>>166794
You're both right. You're correct that there are heaps of fat cringey retards fencing oly, Anon is correct that at the moment HEMA is a stronger attractor for blubbermonsters. Doesn't mean that *none* of them end up on oly now but it's true that we're avoiding some of the worst trannies and fatbeards thanks to the HEMA filter.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Sep 2023 22:17:25 UTC No. 167463
I had my first session today. It was fun, but they only run once a week. Is that enough to get good? I intend to practice footwork on my own but I can't really do much else.
I'm thinking of going with foil or maybe sabre for my weapon.
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Sep 2023 03:12:28 UTC No. 167482
>>167463
1x a week is eh. Do 2/3x minimum when starting out if you can.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Sep 2023 04:16:34 UTC No. 168090
>>167463
>I intend to practice footwork on my own but I can't really do much else.
Hang a tennis ball on a bit of fishing line and stab it as it swings about.
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Oct 2023 22:16:27 UTC No. 173413
>>167463
Every day is leg day now. Get that explosive strength to leap fast and far.
Anonymous at Wed, 25 Oct 2023 22:22:48 UTC No. 173414
>>166849
Heavy strong people* are the ones with an advantage in BJJ.
If you put a 6'4" skeleton man against a juiced up 5'8" manlet of the same weight, the manlet is going to outwrestle the lanklet due to less vulnerability for getting his limbs leveraged into fucked positions; on top of the manlet being pound-by-pound stronger than the lanklet (like I said, that means he would be stronger if both are the same weight).
You have never ever in your life wrestled and it shows.
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Oct 2023 13:45:52 UTC No. 173461
>>173414
>umm but weight matters too!!
That still means being tall is an advantage, retard.
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Oct 2023 23:31:29 UTC No. 173526
>>173461
>le jack dempsey face
>le mike tyson face
They were boxers and not wrestlers but you get what I mean.
ngmi lanklet boy
Anonymous at Fri, 27 Oct 2023 04:01:33 UTC No. 173547
Former D1 Sabre fencer from OSU (travel team before covid), and international fencer. If anyone has questions I'd be happy to answer since fencing was my entire point of living before covid happened and I started focusing on money instead.
>by the way, I'm only 5'7" and I did fine. Height is a bigger problem in epee maybe, but it's not the end of the world in Sabre if your footwork is right. Skill is skill at the end of the day
Anonymous at Fri, 27 Oct 2023 13:06:14 UTC No. 173577
>>173547
Do you still fence? If not why did you stop after college?
>>173414
Why the fuck are people talking about bjj in a fencing thread?
Anonymous at Thu, 2 Nov 2023 19:11:20 UTC No. 174269
>>173577
I want to get back into fencing, but there aren't any clubs near me currently. Also I'm incredibly competitive so if I started fencing I would want to compete, which would just piss me off because of how bad the cheating is in American fencing.
I stopped fencing after college because I refuse to wear a mask, so nowhere would let me train (this is a covid mask obviously). Then I saw they were still wearing them in like 2022 when people were NPC'ing about monkeypox or whatever scam psyop bullshit it was, so I refused. My original club kicked me out because I wouldn't play that stupid game, and then I moved and yadda yadda
Anonymous at Fri, 3 Nov 2023 18:42:10 UTC No. 174394
>>174269
You sound like an unbearable little shit desu
Anonymous at Sat, 4 Nov 2023 09:28:09 UTC No. 174498
>>123416
Where I live it's the same with most olympic sports, so if I want to learn say judo or classic wrestling my only option is to pay through my teeth for personal coaching. It's fucking insane.
Anonymous at Mon, 6 Nov 2023 19:13:37 UTC No. 174830
>>173547
Why sabre? Is sabre better than other disciplines? Do you want to try HEMA?
Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 18:54:17 UTC No. 175776
>>173547
It isnāt necessarily the end of the world for average sized Epee fencers either. The following fencers won Olympic medals in Epee in recent years:
Ruben Limardo 1.75 m (5 ft 9 in) in London, 2012; Park Sang-young 1.77 m (5 ft 9.5 in) in Rio, 2016 and Romain Cannone 1.77 m (5 ft 9.5 in) in Tokyo, 2020.
Being tall is definitely an advantage but thatās the case in every sport on the planet, so I think itās silly if youāre around average height and not fencing just because youāre not 6 foot plus.
Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:18:44 UTC No. 175788
>>174830
Sabre is superior because it counts cuts, not only thrusts as in foil and ƩpƩe. This relates more to HEMA (arming/broad/side-sword, and earlier rapier) instead of small sword.
Anonymous at Fri, 17 Nov 2023 00:46:09 UTC No. 176113
>>174269
0 proof therefore all lies
Anonymous at Fri, 17 Nov 2023 00:50:21 UTC No. 176114
>>174498
Olympic elitism like this is fucking retarded. Boxing is full of succesful boxers that started the sport in their early 20s, why not with fencing? I can bet my ass that many of the people that do fencing since they are kids also have this obsessing over having been doing it for long, and the idea of someone in 3 years could defeat them scares them to an existential level. It's faggot gatekeeping and one of the many reasons people hate olympic sports.
Anonymous at Fri, 17 Nov 2023 00:52:11 UTC No. 176115
>>175776
>Being tall is definitely an advantage but thatās the case in every sport on the planet
Factually wrong. All formula 1 drivers are underweight manlets, for example.
Anonymous at Wed, 29 Nov 2023 23:11:51 UTC No. 177439
>started fencing for the first time in my uni club
>10 weeks of practice, fencing in the stinky, heavy blue uniforms
>start getting bored, don't really get to actually fence
>go on electric last week with a proper referee
>get a pistol grip and proper uniforms
>I... get it now...
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Dec 2023 17:28:49 UTC No. 179749
>>118054
If youre learning Capo Ferro you should be doing HEMA not MOF.
If you want to learn MOF either join a club or read up on modern sources like Barbasetti.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Dec 2023 18:38:23 UTC No. 179766
>>176115
F1 is nothing compared to Manlet GP. Although, to be fair, Rossi (pbuh) is 181 cm.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Dec 2023 01:00:16 UTC No. 179920
>>177439
>fencing in the stinky, heavy blue uniforms
After Christmas break one year three different girls came back with freshly dyed blue hair and spent the next several weeks staining the collars of most of the white loaner lamƩs.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Dec 2023 01:06:14 UTC No. 179921
>>124285
>I'm 5'6" and I didn't win states
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Dec 2023 19:22:43 UTC No. 180115
>>118054
>studying rapier sources for oly fencing
The three weapons of oly fencing are meant to be analogues to the smallsword, dueling saber and epƩe de combat. You shouldn't read an Italian rapier book.
t. HEMAfag
Anonymous at Thu, 21 Dec 2023 16:46:00 UTC No. 180435
Has anyone else read this? All I got out of it was "just bounce bro"
>>175788
>Sabre is superior
Saber is pool noodle tier bashing. Yes it relates more to HEMA because their footwork is also nonexistent LMAO
>>176114
You're better off starting later because fencing fucks your knees and back. By the time they're 30 you have a huge advantage simply because you don't have decades of wear and tear.
Anonymous at Fri, 22 Dec 2023 16:19:56 UTC No. 180618
>>180435
*sidesteps u*
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Jan 2024 13:45:59 UTC No. 181820
I'm in the midwest and have experience in combat sports. I always wondered and thought fighting medieval combat would be fun. I saw a buhurt clip and this thread, so I looked for clubs around me. fencing turned out to only be available in the super rich areas and high monthly prices, (everyone in pictures looked unathletic and snobbish cunts). also, is the average skill, will, athleticism of a fencer bad? despite all this should i just try and bruteforce my way in to getting get, so i can get reactions from aformentioned people? It doesn't seem very hard to do so. It's sounds very cocky, but this would be my only reason for pursuing the sport.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 01:55:55 UTC No. 181869
>>181820
>is the average skill, will, athleticism of a fencer bad?
It varies wildly between clubs and within clubs.
>I always wondered and thought fighting medieval combat would be fun.
Besides buhurt and Olympic fencing you might be interested in SCA rattan armored combat, SCA fencing, HEMA, and boffer combat sports like Belegarth and Dagorhir (or possibly boffer combat LARPs like Amtgard).
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jan 2024 14:06:15 UTC No. 184616
>>183980
>ev&o this thread doesn't belong on /xs/ cause fencing is a sport safer and less extreme than fucking tennis
Go to /sp/ olyfencingGOD
Anonymous at Sat, 10 Feb 2024 21:50:32 UTC No. 186394
>>181820
if you're in NM I'm DTF
Anonymous at Sat, 17 Feb 2024 19:11:38 UTC No. 187361
>>117095
i was banned from epee by my coach.
he said
"you're too good you must do sabre"
and tbf sabre is way more fun and exciting that epee.
epee is for wome.
Anonymous at Sat, 17 Feb 2024 20:05:04 UTC No. 187366
>>187361
sabre would be more fun if two lights with no blade contact would just be simul by default.
Anonymous at Sat, 17 Feb 2024 20:35:36 UTC No. 187373
>>115460
I'm considering checking out a pile of kit, presumably from a defunct club, sold as a lot with uniforms and electronic scoring equipment. What do I need to do to assess the serviceability of the electronic gear? I haven't fenced in almost ten years but it might be fun to get a setup for local friends and family.
Anonymous at Sat, 17 Feb 2024 20:42:32 UTC No. 187376
>>187373
Post pics and I can tell you. I'm quite familiar with fencing electronics.
Be careful with old fencing clothing (masks, gloves, jackets...). It is almost always not worth it to re-use, and can be a severe safety hazard. The newest Absolute Fencing line of basic non-cotton gear is phenomenally better than old crap. But electronics (cords, reels, machines), 100% try and re-use.
Anonymous at Sun, 18 Feb 2024 03:32:05 UTC No. 187417
>>187376
I don't have pictures yet, just a phone number and email. They're asking a negotiable $1200 for:
>masks
>clothing
>sabers
>foils
>gloves
>a lot more
>very large amount and different sizes
>electric equipment
What questions should I ask, and what are your thought's on plausible fair offers?
Anonymous at Sun, 18 Feb 2024 03:52:01 UTC No. 187419
>>187417
>'s
*s
Anonymous at Sun, 18 Feb 2024 05:05:12 UTC No. 187423
>>187417
sabres, foils, are valuable, especially if you have some FIE blades in the mix. I would say $50 each if working, $100 if it is a FIE blade. Expect crappy degraded felt pads, I would invest in replacing with new translucent ones if possible. For non-wired weapons, like $25 each.
Gloves are always nice to have a variety of, and outside of sabre it's not too big a deal to have an old one (modern sabre requires FIE gloves) - just watch out for big holes and destroyed velcro. Maybe $7 each.
Masks, I would be quite careful. Look out for bad rivets, weakened mesh, outdated/loose straps, illegal clear visors, and interior stains. Consider that with club discount, a modern AF mask adhering to current strap regulations is only $70. Given that, for used masks, I would hesitate to spend more than $30 each for a good condition one. Make sure they have 350N/800N labels.
Chest protectors don't really go bad. Pick up whatever ones work. Maybe $15 each is a good offer.
For jackets/pants/plastrons, avoid back zips, cotton, and broken zippers. If those attributes are present, don't even bother. Again, make sure it has a 350N/800N label. Stretchy material good condition jackets, maybe $35, and plastrons, perhaps $10.
Random box of grips, guards, socket parts? I would say $12 per 'set' in it (socket, grip, guard, nut).
Body cords... avoid bayonet type. But if they work and don't have bad insulation or missing socket clip (for foil/sabre cords) I'd say $8/each is about right.
Floor cords, $25.
Working reels, $250/each. For a pristine favero pizza box reel, maybe $300. consider that an Enpointe wireless reel set is just $900.
Machines, remember you can get a new FA15 from favero direct for $770.
So FA05, I'd offer $450. $200 for a SG11. $250 for SG12. $300 for FA01. Watch out for old timing chips too.
get some pics plz
Anonymous at Sun, 18 Feb 2024 06:53:07 UTC No. 187433
>>115460
sport fencing is now so far an away from sword fighting which was the only reason to get into it.
Anonymous at Sun, 18 Feb 2024 07:05:20 UTC No. 187435
>>187433
sport fencing has never been about real sword fighting. in fact the Italian guy who invented it in the 1600s had never been in a real sword fight himself and admitted it.
It's just fun, dude.
>BEEEEEEP
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Feb 2024 08:19:52 UTC No. 187576
I have the new 3d printed Leon Paul titanium grip
it's nice.
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Feb 2024 15:26:35 UTC No. 187602
>>162231
> Average French Elitist Mind set.
Yeah, at least there's Kendo that doesn't have this sort of elitism.
Anonymous at Mon, 19 Feb 2024 21:53:05 UTC No. 187624
>>162231
Take the Classical Fencing pill. It mogs the fuck out of sport fencing.
>takes skill
>teaches you actual combat
>isnt about just being le fast and wagging the wire
>doesn't need to leech off of the olympics to exist (literally nobody gives a rat's ass about oly fencing and it's only kept alive because of the olympics as it neither has entertaining or martial value)
>you will not only mog olyfags "martially", but also aesthetically (olympic fencing looks fucking stupid)
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Feb 2024 01:42:12 UTC No. 187647
>>187624
Awful take imo
Fencing is not a martial sport and isnāt pretending to be.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Feb 2024 02:04:04 UTC No. 187648
>>136181
Absolutely based.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Feb 2024 03:16:18 UTC No. 187650
>>187624
Iād be willing to bet thereās less than 50 people in the entire world who actually properly train classical fencing. Youāre probably the same kind of retard who tells people to train kosen judo instead of kodokan judo despite the fact that thereās only an extremely small number of people who only live in Japan that do that.
Anonymous at Tue, 20 Feb 2024 06:16:24 UTC No. 187656
some 'classical fencing' people rent out a local fencing club space a couple times a week. They're all fat weirdos.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Feb 2024 00:35:14 UTC No. 188366
why don't we use dual-wire normally-open setups for foils, I'm tired of white light flickers and taping my blade.
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Feb 2024 08:13:04 UTC No. 188698
Planning to get my daughter into fencing when she turns 6. She is a fiesty little brat and I think this sport will suit her.
I am located in Mumbai, India btw, pls don't make fun.
Anonymous at Fri, 1 Mar 2024 02:42:24 UTC No. 188930
>>188698
is epee / foil / Sabre all popular there?
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Mar 2024 05:10:28 UTC No. 189086
>be me, E rated foil fencer
>entered a local tournament, did poorly in pool
>i'm up against an A rated fencer in the first round
>guess i'm going home early
>match starts, my opponent is a 5'4" middle aged woman
>she gets 14 points pretty quickly
>i realize i'm a foot taller than her
>change strategy and win 15-14
>she storms off after the match and doesn't shake hands
>black card
and that's how i got my C rating
Anonymous at Sat, 2 Mar 2024 06:04:44 UTC No. 189091
>>189086
glorious
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 01:37:39 UTC No. 189324
>>188930
In Tokyo we had our first ever fencer in the olympics who was in women's Sabre.
Our fencing federation is quite old and fencing overall does have seem to have a niche following here. I'll have to visit some clubs to get more exposure.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 08:44:53 UTC No. 190608
>>115460
I'm mostly an FMA guy, but I did learn fencing before I really dove into FMA. Another reason I took fencing is Bruce Lee also learned some fencing , and his younger brother is a fencer. Foil igave me all the fundamentals. My biggest critique of Olympic style fencing is how linear the playing field is.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 08:50:45 UTC No. 190609
>>190608
you mean the 14-meter piste?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 03:17:05 UTC No. 190797
>just spent $2600 on fencing gear
help
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 03:42:05 UTC No. 190801
>>190797
What'd you get?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 03:48:25 UTC No. 190804
>>190801
A whole load of PBT gear, and a brand new scoring machine set. Trying out their SUPERLIGHT line of FIE gear
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Mar 2024 06:04:01 UTC No. 191396
Shoe recommendations? I have flat feet and am hard on all shoes so would like something with a wider footbed.
Anonymous at Sat, 23 Mar 2024 06:12:19 UTC No. 191397
>>191396
I'm a flattie as well. I like my ASICS https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B
I've tried the Leon Paul shoes in the past, they fell apart quick. I do want to try the new shoes listed on PBT though.
Anonymous at Sun, 24 Mar 2024 12:42:12 UTC No. 191550
>>187361
I'll take shit that didn't happen for $400, Alex.
>>191396
My favorites are the Adidas D'Artagnans.
Anonymous at Tue, 26 Mar 2024 02:37:14 UTC No. 191783
beeep
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:13:16 UTC No. 192299
I just looked up Epee videos and it's maybe the most autistic twitch reflex thing I've ever seen, with surprisingly little contact. There's no way to get into it unless I got genes right? Should I stick to foil as a beginner?
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:22:55 UTC No. 192300
>>192299
Foil is often used to teach beginners but do whatever you'll enjoy. Performing at the top level of anything depends somewhat on genes so I wouldn't worry about that aspect.
Anonymous at Fri, 29 Mar 2024 23:36:47 UTC No. 192302
>>192300
How bad is the elitism? I'm 29, and some of the stuff people were saying earlier in the thread sounds like a horror show.
I really, really, really want to fence. To the point that it's been my motivation for months now and driving me to get into better shape. I have the sword autism bug.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 01:18:44 UTC No. 192315
>>192302
no worse than any other sport.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 01:31:58 UTC No. 192320
>>192315
good, good. thanks for the reply.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 01:42:14 UTC No. 192321
>>192320
where are you at. I might be able to recommend a club
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 04:24:34 UTC No. 192328
>>192321
oregon
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 06:19:14 UTC No. 192333
>>192302
Everyone in my large college club was a fucking nerd, zero elitism.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Mar 2024 06:46:42 UTC No. 192336
>live in college town
>massive state uni doesn't have a fencing club
>local community college is nominally trying to put one together but nothing
how the actual fuck is it possible for a flagship state uni to not have less of one than the local CC? cursed
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 06:40:34 UTC No. 192436
>>192328
no clue
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Mar 2024 19:47:02 UTC No. 192533
in the US is it dorky to ref in French
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Apr 2024 14:31:22 UTC No. 192850
>>175015
he's from oklahoma I'm pretty sure. no person would willingly admit to living in ohio
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 02:53:00 UTC No. 195098
>>131180
>HEMA guys call oly fencing antenna tag
>HEMA gets an inkling of a competition scene
>lol how do we score
>HEMA becomes sword tag, now with less athleticism and technical competency because of poor pedagogy
We've come full circle.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 02:56:17 UTC No. 195100
there isn't really anything wrong with antenna tag as a concept. no less of a weird sport than like curling.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 03:04:57 UTC No. 195101
>>195100
>there isn't really anything wrong with antenna tag as a concept
there isn't, swordsmanship derived sports do a better job at replicating the dynamism behind an exchange than the more "technically accurate" studies.
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:40:44 UTC No. 195613
my sabre ref upped his bribe to $5/bout to call double lights in my favor, baka
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 07:25:33 UTC No. 195651
>>195101
Clueless idiot award
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 07:29:49 UTC No. 195652
>>132823
Couldn't modern oly fencing go back to it's classical fencing rules thoe?
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 07:48:31 UTC No. 195655
>>195652
yes, we should have women's fencing require dresses again. also instant red card if your hand comes off your hip
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Apr 2024 22:11:44 UTC No. 195995
>>195651
damn bro, got him *tips fedora*
Anonymous at Fri, 3 May 2024 14:24:44 UTC No. 196322
Got StM 800N whites from their site, shipping was a bitch given current circumstances and since I bougbt a rollerbag to boot. The feel is comfortable enough that it doesn't trigger my skin rashes, though feels a bit heavy.
Will get back to you after I break them in after a couple bouts.
Anonymous at Fri, 3 May 2024 19:41:26 UTC No. 196347
>>196322
how tf is StM still around, wasn't their factory in eastern ukraine
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 00:34:08 UTC No. 197444
>>195990
About 15 years ago I won an epee bout with a spinning jump attack. I am still proud of that to this day.
Anonymous at Mon, 13 May 2024 01:03:28 UTC No. 197447
>>195995
Next thing you're gonna say chess grandmasters should become military general or some shit.
Anonymous at Tue, 14 May 2024 07:59:03 UTC No. 197580
>>196347
Kharkiv. They've still got their salesmen going around at the European competitions, and there's also a newer Ukrainian fencing manufacturer that's popped up around 2021 called Folo, they just so weapon components and wires right now.
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 20:43:01 UTC No. 198641
>>198638
Older convention, evolved from Italian rapier fencing that theorized that controlling the center line was the safest and most efficient way to attack the opponent, continued on with smallsword fencing which became foil and subsequently epee. Saber too since foil fencing was often taught as a training exercise for saber since it taught really good point control.
Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jun 2024 00:45:09 UTC No. 201592
>>198641
Neat, thanks. Can you recommend any good books or other relevant sources?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:48:44 UTC No. 203890
Toughts on Classical Fencing?
It's essentially like Olympic, and where it came from. Except the scoring rules give defense more priority over "reckless" offense and there is no right of way.
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 21:48:53 UTC No. 205601
>>203890
blessed
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jul 2024 03:18:22 UTC No. 205630
>>203890
I studied classical fencing in high school, I moved on to HEMA later on. At the time I just wanted to do sport fencing and had no idea this was a thing that exists. Iām glad I did it because A, fencing is always fun and B, it did give me a really good base for HEMA later on.
All that said, Iāve seen some videos of truly skilled and exceptional classical fencers online. My coach was not that guy. He certainly had some good skills to impart but in reality he was like a D rated sport fencer. a lot of guys teaching classical fencing arenāt really that good. I think if I went back to his salle with the skills I have now I could probably beat him.
Anonymous at Wed, 31 Jul 2024 23:30:18 UTC No. 205888
>>192336
If you have a decent rating some local club coaches will let you come for free and give good practice for the kids. And usually the kids at local clubs are stronger than fencers at university that doesn't have official teams.
Anonymous at Sun, 4 Aug 2024 03:50:23 UTC No. 206312
>>115460
It's the equivalent of Point Karate for sword fighting, thus, pussy sport
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Sep 2024 19:38:19 UTC No. 210120
>>132785
Saber would be great if it wasn't for the utterly retarded priority shit.
A point just being a point is the big reason why epee is the best fencing variant
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 13:45:50 UTC No. 210191
>I made this thread 2 years ago
>it's still up
I went to my college fencing club for a couple semesters. I got too busy with schoolwork so I had to stop going. It was fun but I didn't really get too deep into it.
Maybe I'll try it again some day, but I dunno. Seems hard to find a club
Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 16:10:12 UTC No. 210215
>>210191
where you at
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Nov 2024 19:09:35 UTC No. 215658
halt!