Anonymous at Wed, 26 Oct 2022 20:20:31 UTC No. 122391

>>122373
Royce Gracie is part Dutch? OP I'm confused. Gerard Gordeau is Dutch but the finalist for UFC 2 besides Royce is Pat Smith who is American

Anonymous at Thu, 27 Oct 2022 06:43:49 UTC No. 122453

>>122391
am i retarded or was the other finalist in UFC 2 that absolute unit of a dutchman? the jujutsu nigga? maybe that was UFC 3. perhaps i'm misremembering things...

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Oct 2022 23:35:02 UTC No. 122964

>>122453
You're thinking about Remco Paradoel who fought in UFC 2 always trained with Gerard Gordeau who was one of the finalists for UFC 1. After that there wasn't much Dutchmen in the UFC. It would be foolish to take pride in that as Royce Gracie submit both the dutch

Anonymous at Mon, 31 Oct 2022 15:49:30 UTC No. 123070

>>122964
sure, but they did both make it to the finals. that's p impressive for such a small country. also there have been numerous dutch mma athletes since then, which, again, is p cool to see, having grown up in swamp germany.

a big part of sports is repping ur hometown/home country, and supporting ur fellow countrymen to take pride in ur nation. u may not get it, but we're a patriotic ppl, especially when it comes to sports.

a lot of us also don't have the luxury to travel the world and have dual citizenship, and for our working class folks, living paycheck to paycheck or barely surviving off welfare, their nation and (sense of) belonging to it is all they have to be proud of.

most of us are not "citizens of the world" - no, we're merely citizens of our respective countries and nothing more.

now, i understand that largely thanks to ww2 nationalism has gotten a bad name, and the powers that be have used this as justification to tirelessly beat any sense of pride in one's nation out of us, and intensify class conflict, further driving a wedge between the different bars on the social ladder - as a populace divided among itself is easier to control - but don't be fooled! nationalism, defined as love, pride in, and a sense of belonging to one's country and its ppl, is alive and well, especially in sports.

so it should come as no surprise that i, a dutchman, take pride in my fellow countrymen doing rather well in combat sports, and in this case mma specifically, sth that i love as a life-long martial artist, coming from such a tiny part of the world. and the smaller a population is, the stronger the sense of community and camraderie, as definitions have more meaning the more other things are excluded from them, which is why the story of david vs goliath has stood the test of time and remains one of the most inspiring stories to this day. whenever my country beats a larger country in a given sport, that's what it feels like.

Anonymous at Mon, 31 Oct 2022 16:57:03 UTC No. 123081

What's the point of this thread? Yes we know the Dutch are solid fighters who pioneered MMA and the only Western country to challenge the Thais dominance in kickboxing.

Anonymous at Thu, 1 Dec 2022 17:48:24 UTC No. 127369

>>122373
really makes you think. Happy halloween

Anonymous at Sat, 3 Dec 2022 18:24:17 UTC No. 127765

Well I certainly enjoyed DKB more than Muay Thai and found it less awkward to train in as a karateka.

Anonymous at Sat, 10 Dec 2022 01:13:35 UTC No. 128607

>>122373
How are the dutch doing now in the ufc?