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Anonymous at Tue, 2 May 2023 16:36:19 UTC No. 144535
>Why yes I am a black-belt in BJJ how could you te- *ACK!*
Anonymous at Tue, 2 May 2023 18:18:11 UTC No. 144553
There is no other way to learn grappling, unless you live in USA, Russia or Japan
Anonymous at Tue, 2 May 2023 18:24:43 UTC No. 144554
>>144535
wtf hahahahahhahahahahaha
dude passed out with the most retarded tecnique, this is what stronger ppl do to weaker ppl with 0 days of training
how can ppl say bjj works after this shamefull event
just choke ppl to death in championchips with zero training theory
Anonymous at Tue, 2 May 2023 18:48:24 UTC No. 144557
Nice whitebelt match. Maybe zoom in closer so we can't even tell it's a tournament next time, call it a fight.
Bjjihad will continue forever you faggots, you can't stop us.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 May 2023 19:48:53 UTC No. 144563
>>144554
>dude passed out with the most retarded tecnique
Seriously it would’ve been so easy to break this choke just by moving his arms to the inside instead of trying to pull on his wrists from the outside like a retard. Even for a whitebelt this shit is embarrassing
Anonymous at Tue, 2 May 2023 21:22:55 UTC No. 144569
>>144535
That IS bjj
>Passed opponent's guard in closed guard by standing up and walking forward, a valid technique on an opponent who isn't letting go of a closed guard that isn't giving them anything and doesn't know what they're doing
>Inexperienced opponent just sat their holding closed guard while getting choked
>loses to the choke sub for it
Homie on bottom had options and took none of them
>Let go of guard to give him some literal breathing room, use legs to post frames
>Let go of guard, risk using legs to assist targeting an arm
>Capture one of his opponent's elbows for a roll or to let him start shrimping out for a standup reset
>Go for sweeps or entanglements as his opponent's center of mass is REALLY, really far forward
he did none of those things
Anonymous at Wed, 3 May 2023 07:16:18 UTC No. 144609
white belt shit
bottom guy could've done so many sweeps from there, maybe even shot for an armbar or triangle if the stars aligned, but this was just poor sportsmanship and shitty technique from both sides.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 May 2023 14:33:21 UTC No. 144632
Is a stranglehold a legal technique in BJJ?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 May 2023 16:05:08 UTC No. 144638
>>144632
If you're talking about something like the one in OP then yes that's legal, you just don't see anybody do it because it's so easy to defend if you're not retarded. Technically you can only use pressure, and can't squeeze as that's illegal, but I've never seen anyone disqualified for it.
BJJ has different rules depending on your level, but the high-level pretty much allow everything except fingers and toes (though I've never seen them allowed in any other sport either) so it's pretty easy to understand.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 May 2023 16:25:44 UTC No. 144640
>>144632
Strangulations (cutting off blood flow) are the preferred and safest form of choke. Wind chokes, where you're physically crushing the wind pipe, are less effective and more injurious. The "Homer simpson" choke you see in OP is usually more of a wind choke although it looks like that guy knows how to do it proper. This is a day 1 sort of choke because as many have said, it's probably the easiest choke to break and shouldn't work unless your opponent is way stronger than you, like man vs small woman or child strength difference. I'm assuming the guy in OP got nervous during a competition and just froze. Still kind of a freak occurrence. I've never seen this actually work.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 May 2023 16:34:46 UTC No. 144641
>>144638
>>144640
Thank you. I thought a stranglehold was dangerous, though. How would you break it?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 May 2023 16:44:07 UTC No. 144642
>>144641
There are almost too many options to list. That choke has horrible fundamentals, anon here covered the most obvious ones. >>144569
Even senior white belts could probably arm bar or triangle counter this choke. It's fucking terrible.
Strangulations are relatively safe because you need to hold them for a long ass time to do real damage. They also work better because cutting off blood to the brain will cause loss of consciousness in a couple seconds, give or take depending on how cinched off the choke is. Wind chokes will eventually put someone to sleep but it takes way longer, sometimes minutes. The airway is harder to close off and you might just end up breaking their windpipe, which can kill a man if you don't get him to a hospital, even after you've let go of the choke. The majority of police fatalities when it comes to chokeholds are done by cops who are bad at grappling and accidentally convert a strangulation, such as a rear naked, into a wind choke. The difference is that strangulations are supposed to target the arteries on the side of the neck, rather than the airway in the center of the throat. If you suck, you just end up squeezing and putting pressure on the airway.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 May 2023 16:51:07 UTC No. 144643
>>144641
not the anon you responded to, but, in the OP situation, i'd probably want to collapse the opponent's right arm and keep it pinned to my chest. depending on whether i felt my hips were mobile, i'd either:
swing my left leg around the front of their face, going for a belly-down armbar or
put my right foot on his right-inside thigh and my left foot on his hip, then sweep him to his right (since his right arm is trapped). which would result in me being in 3-quarter mount with control of an arm.
the second option i described is similar to the common "trap, bridge, roll" escape taught almost universally to white belts.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 May 2023 17:19:00 UTC No. 144647
>>144642
>>144643
Surprisingly complicated. I don't think an untrained person would think of that.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 May 2023 17:42:13 UTC No. 144653
>>144641
Thumb and index finger are the weakest part of the grip. Break the choke by swimming to the inside and forcing his arms off your neck horizontally rather than trying to pull his wrists down like a retard.
>>144647
His answer is complicated and sets up a more complicated maneuver. See above for a simple action that works standing or on the ground.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 May 2023 17:43:18 UTC No. 144655
>>144647
I don't think it's a big ask to say to a beignner
>Hey, your guard clearly isn't holding them down anymore, you've got zero leverage in the air like that, and you're not doing anything useful with your legs, you need to let go and try something different
>Also you're fighting against a choke against each hand individually, and that's clearly not working. Maybe use both hands against one, or try using your legs too?
The fundamental idea being
>If what you're doing isn't working, you probably should try something different.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 May 2023 17:53:03 UTC No. 144657
>>144655
> I don't think it's a big ask to say to a beignner
You say this but one of my favourite things to do to new guys in judo is to let them get a choke set up (kinda) and then wait for them to strain until their arms give out because they don’t know how to deal with me holding my chin down or because they didn’t sink their grip in deep enough. Hell sometimes I’ll wave and talk to people while they do it. Breaking tunnel vision on a specific position or movement takes experience especially when they’re at a tournament under pressure.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 May 2023 18:08:19 UTC No. 144659
>>144647
i explained it fairly thoroughly, but it is something you could learn in a single class. imo, real grappling doesn't really come naturally, which is why untrained people are generally helpless in the face of a grappler without some other huge factor coming into play.
like the other anon said though, there are simpler options. i described one that would set you up well in a competition. if you just wanted to survive, that's easier.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 May 2023 20:17:33 UTC No. 144673
>>144535
This is obviously a beginner's match with very few rules. If someone attempts a choke while they're in the guard like this, it's pretty much a gimme.
Anonymous at Thu, 4 May 2023 22:10:27 UTC No. 144828
Lol, someone skipped class the day they covered escaping from the Wayne Brady.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 May 2023 21:16:13 UTC No. 145175
>>144632
I know one effective stranglehold technique in BJJ. It's when you're mounting someone and they're being stubborn by keeping their arms on their belly and you want to get the double underhook: Just stranglehold them with one hand and catch the underhook on whichever arm they defend with
Anonymous at Sun, 7 May 2023 23:12:25 UTC No. 145355
>>144632
Yeah it's called a rape choke and it is very shameful lmao
Anonymous at Mon, 8 May 2023 02:05:45 UTC No. 145376
bjj sucks, but jujitsu in its complete form is an excellent fighting art
Anonymous at Mon, 8 May 2023 13:12:16 UTC No. 145453
>>144535
Wait, that's allowed? I never really thought about choking BJJtards directly, for some reason I thought it wasn't allowed
Anonymous at Mon, 8 May 2023 15:58:46 UTC No. 145505
>>145453
Bud, what typically happens when you leave your arm remotely extended and your hands near your opponent's shoulder when you're in his guard?
Anonymous at Mon, 8 May 2023 16:06:27 UTC No. 145508
>>145505
Idk, I'm not a BJJfag, but I imagine that shit is easy to break
Anonymous at Mon, 8 May 2023 17:41:35 UTC No. 145541
>>145508
Ah, well there's a really simple elbow lock you can get just by rolling their arm and putting a foot over their shoulder. Rarely will you score it on anyone who's been training for a few months because they've all learned that extending their arms to the neck inside the guard is low hanging fruit.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 17 Jun 2023 10:39:36 UTC No. 151758
Ok
Anonymous at Sun, 18 Jun 2023 01:41:45 UTC No. 151850
>>145505
Your instructor yells at you to not leave your arm extended
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Jun 2023 04:53:21 UTC No. 152480
This was a less than 6 month white belt comp iirc. For anyone curious if anyone tries to choke you in your guard, armbar is the perfect counter, unless its an ezekiel.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jun 2023 09:44:53 UTC No. 152626
>>145541
>>145505
I've made this work sparring with friends who are whitebelts while being a boxing guy lol, the best version is to get to mount then do it