Anonymous at Sun, 18 Jun 2023 22:35:16 UTC No. 152017

Useful back in 2014 when men wore peacoats. Can't use them now that everyone wears puffer jackets.

Anonymous at Sun, 18 Jun 2023 22:42:19 UTC No. 152019

>>152016
I cross collar choked a guy in a polo shirt once.

Anonymous at Sun, 18 Jun 2023 22:56:23 UTC No. 152023

minimally
your bjj instructor that says you need to train in the gi is just doing that to protect his own financial interests because he himself is no good without it and needs the crutch in order to win

even back when I was a blue belt I went against the guy that won pans in the brown belt division and in a gi he fucked me up but then we rolled again 2 weeks later without the gi and I completely dicked him around, it was like a completely different guy with no skills at all

Anonymous at Sun, 18 Jun 2023 23:03:13 UTC No. 152026

Depends on how often you're fighting someone in a hoodie. Unless they're Kmart tier awful, a grip at the hood seam on the neck will net you at least one throw position.

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 00:58:23 UTC No. 152053

>>152023
I'm sure this totally happened. You should enter the adcc, you sound like a natural pro.

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 01:19:07 UTC No. 152056

>>152053
I'm not sure what makes you think beating a brown belt gi player one time in nogi makes me qualified for ADCC, but if you really think so maybe I'll give the trials a go

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 03:40:34 UTC No. 152075

>>152016
If your grip is strong enough it doesn't really matter what they're wearing or not. I've seen no gi in action and even on fit dudes with little to no flab you'd be surprised how much flesh you can really grab onto and just pull. Obviously you don't see this shit in sparring but a motherfucker can grab you by your damn clavicle, love handles, even just reach up to choke your ass but instead grab a fold of neck skin & it all hurts, a lot. o_o

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 03:54:45 UTC No. 152082

>>152056
Did you beat him or roll with him? Keep it straight gymlord who clearly doesnt compete

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 04:36:39 UTC No. 152092

>>152082
what do you think dicked him around means?

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 13:51:04 UTC No. 152115

>>152082
Im convinced there are a few fags that just camp the martial arts thread saying shit like "you dont train/fight/compete"

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 15:08:59 UTC No. 152127

>>152016
IMHO, if you're interested in training for self defense, you should spend roughly equal time training in gi and nogi.

True, people don't wear gis in the streets, but they don't wear skintight spandex rashguards either. Is a t-shirt more like a gi or a rashguard? What about jacket? A hoodie? I think you should know how to make grips on clothing and how to use them, and more importantly you should know what to do about the other guy's grips on your clothing.

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 15:18:38 UTC No. 152129

>>152115
You don’t fight

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 15:20:36 UTC No. 152130

>>152127
This. Always do both. The broader the experience the better your chances. I hate how in a lot of discussions on this board there is a sort of feigned incompetence. Dismissing things because the prospect of improvising is so foreign a concept, such as gripping different types of clothes. Or just like how in nogi you have to improvise until you find the new set of holds you can rely on.

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 15:22:31 UTC No. 152132

>>152127
This is a good point and people ignore it when I’ve brought I up elsewhere. I live in a city that’s big on hockey and most people like to try and fight like they’re hockey players

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 15:24:57 UTC No. 152134

>>152132
So lots of wild haymakers while clinching the collar?

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 16:19:19 UTC No. 152144

>>152115
I'm convinced 90% of the board doesnt train at all, much less fight or compete. Those that do smell out those that don't a mile away.

Shit, 75% of posts are about self training or creating your own style.

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 16:34:32 UTC No. 152147

>>152144
You see the problem is that I started training at a gym that you've heard of when I was 14 years old and have made a career out of it, I was a coach at 2 big names gyms that you've heard of, and the director of the martial arts program at a large gym that you've heard of
I was employed by the US national team going into the 2020 Olympics

People around here call me a white belt and say I don't train all the time
Because I've been around long enough to sniff at the bullshit and I just don't tow the line the way that Joe rogan and Jocko do
One of them gargles the nuts of an actual crime family, the other one owns a jiujitsu lifestyle brand . No bias there I'm sure
Both non-fighters btw but somehow they have valid opinions lmao

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 17:01:04 UTC No. 152150

>>152147
Out of curiosity, what do you disagree with Joe and Jocko about?

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 17:13:35 UTC No. 152153

>>152147
>Both non-fighters btw but somehow they have valid opinions lmao
For whatever its worth i think jocko and joe are full of shit

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 17:18:49 UTC No. 152156

>>152147
Sure thing bud

I trained every navy seal and also won the olympics 4 times in judo boxing and both styles of wrestling. I'm really cool too

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 17:33:22 UTC No. 152159

>>152156
I don't believe you. Judo boxing isn't in the Olympics.

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 17:58:53 UTC No. 152167

>>152134
Basically

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 18:02:09 UTC No. 152169

>>152147
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Qaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 18:11:55 UTC No. 152171

>>152150
It's how hard they dickride bjj like it's not just special but its actually the only thing you need, it's the one above all, everything else is secondary
Good thing helio gracie invented leverage and bestowed this great gift on to the world

They're just ignorant, they drank the koolaid in 93 and never looked back

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 19:05:04 UTC No. 152175

>>152171
Not even special. Shit only exists in an echo chamber. BJJ is the leftism of martial arts. It only exists through censorship.

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 19:31:08 UTC No. 152177

>>152175
Censorship of what? This one was a real stretch bro.

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 19:37:48 UTC No. 152180

>>152177
I kinda get what hes saying though
Like its fine as long as you agree to do it on their terms, but if you deviate they say hey you're not allowed to do that

Consider this, when somebody is sitting on the ground in a BJJ match they will penalize the person that is standing up for not getting down on the ground with them, compared to any other martial art or where they will make the person that is sitting on the ground stand up to engage with the person that's standing

They have it backwards compared to everybody else

Anonymous at Mon, 19 Jun 2023 23:47:52 UTC No. 152211

What is this false dichotomy

I train BJJ, Wrestling, Kickboxing, and MMA. There's no one size fits all answer. Why pick on an art for something so easily remedied? What fucking year is it? Does no one remember MMA exists?

Anonymous at Tue, 20 Jun 2023 00:06:21 UTC No. 152218

>>152211
Its not a false dilemma
>>152180
Its a simple mechanical issue
>1v1
Submission grappling is A-ok
>1v1+?(uncertain factors such as hazardous surroundings &/ possibility of newcomers)
Dodgy, could go south
>1v2 or more+?
Utterly retarded to use submission grappling. I m not saying youre gonna save yourself by avoiding it, but it would be smarter to stat on your feet so you can run it the sooner chance.
>tldr; there is 1 specific situation where submission grappling makes sense

Anonymous at Tue, 20 Jun 2023 00:55:35 UTC No. 152219

>>152218
Yea. So do a 3:1 training percentage of non-bjj (kickboxing, wrestling) to jits. Why is everyone so extremist here? Why does everyone act like you can only do one thing?

Anonymous at Tue, 20 Jun 2023 03:14:40 UTC No. 152232

>>152219
Most of us aren't. But then a BJJ fag shows up dripping with rogan & willink splooge, ranting about how its the greatest fucking thing ever, we all need to be humbled, and it defeats everything. But if you suggest there is even 1 area where it falls behind, they lose their shit. Just look at this board, BJJ are this boards trannies.

Anonymous at Tue, 20 Jun 2023 04:00:37 UTC No. 152237

>>152232
I don't think this post is actually about the annoying BJJ posters.

Anonymous at Thu, 22 Jun 2023 16:36:29 UTC No. 152520

>>152127
This guy gets it.

Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jun 2023 20:30:36 UTC No. 152720

# of People who say Gi is unrealistic is huge
Barely see anyone say No Gi is unrealistic because of the slip and slide. Try grabbing someone in a spandex speedo after 4 rounds covered in sweat, yeah no

Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jun 2023 20:45:46 UTC No. 152726

>>152720
this is part of the reason leglocks are such a powerful tool, the entanglements mechanically lock you into place

Anonymous at Sat, 24 Jun 2023 12:55:27 UTC No. 152867

>>152016
very