Anonymous at Fri, 30 Jun 2023 00:15:55 UTC No. 153914

>>153911
Sambo?

Anonymous at Fri, 30 Jun 2023 00:59:38 UTC No. 153921

Kudo.

Anonymous at Fri, 30 Jun 2023 03:47:28 UTC No. 153952

>>153911
Then make it

Unless...I mean, surely you ARE a high ranking practicioner in both judo and bjj, right?

Anonymous at Fri, 30 Jun 2023 06:56:20 UTC No. 153968

>>153911
you would have to create a tournament that was popular enough that people will train for it.
it would be possible if the IJF werent cucks and if jitz community can bring themselves to punish guard pulling.

The key concepts imo should be simple:
1.All subs allowed and are automatic wins
2. good ass takedowns should be a win or near win (to simulate how getting thrown on the hard ground isnt fun). But the main advantage of takedowns should be that you land in top position. Guard pulling and avoiding standing game should count as a minor takedown because you literally cede top position.
3. Force a mutual standup if the fighters disengages on the ground; forcing a party to pass guard if the other person stays on the ground never sat well with me.
4. maybe introduce striking on the ground to cement top position dominance??? also has added benefit of forcing bottom game evolution to deal with striking. but this is iffy in the safety department. You could do a point system where tapping the face with your limbs are points, but then you lose authenticity, people will take advantage of it, and the rules will have to be convoluted to make it work

Anonymous at Fri, 30 Jun 2023 11:37:23 UTC No. 153985

>>153911
Imagine sparring without GI with females.
The absolute dream.

Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jul 2023 12:40:10 UTC No. 154224

in my school it's called submission wrestling which is that and no gi

What you're describing is called MMA

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jul 2023 08:09:18 UTC No. 154343

>>153914
I wish there was more Sambo around because i would like to cross train in it

Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jul 2023 22:34:37 UTC No. 154625

>>153968
Honestly this whole think can be resolved by increasing points on a takedown and getting rid of illegal slam rules

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jul 2023 20:04:37 UTC No. 157018

>>153968
No lies detected

Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jul 2023 23:54:06 UTC No. 157052

Jiu Jitsu is an off-shoot of Judo already, what a retard thread.

Anonymous at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 09:50:18 UTC No. 159601

>spend more time on learning takedowns
>start sparring on feet
>unban slams
>score guard pulling same as getting taken down
Bjj fixed

Anonymous at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 12:08:20 UTC No. 159619

>>159601
This.
Just award more point to takedowns and score a guard pull as a takedown for the opponent.

Anonymous at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 16:10:58 UTC No. 159646

>>159601
I wouldn’t unban “slams” since most of the time it’s daki age shit which is also banned in judo for being unreasonably dangerous. Jumping guard should be banned because you’re basically asking to Be maimed via daki age when you do it

Anonymous at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 17:33:51 UTC No. 159653

>>159601
Even if you don't do the first 3, the last would be interesting to see implemented. As you'd better be confident in your bottom game finishing ability.

Anonymous at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 17:35:34 UTC No. 159655

Just do old school BJJ in nogi and refrain from faggy acrobatic sports shit that you would never do on concrete

Anonymous at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 18:50:37 UTC No. 159664

>>153911
Isn't kosen judo pretty close?
Or just modern, American-style jiujitsu with heavy wrestling influences, a la Daisy Fresh. Speaking just for myself, our gym starts every round on the feet unless we're drilling a specific position.

>>159646
I heard there used be a rule in old-school judo that lifting your opponent above your head counted as an ippon. The reasoning being, in a "real fight" you would slam them mercilessly.
Maybe a full ippon would be a bit much, but it's an interesting idea.

Anonymous at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 19:11:57 UTC No. 159666

>>159664
> I heard there used be a rule in old-school judo that lifting your opponent above your head counted as an ippon
That is correct. My latest understanding is they changed it to just cause a standup but judo rules change every 15 minutes so who knows

Anonymous at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 19:45:56 UTC No. 159670

>>159664
Kosen isn't sub-only judo. It involved more ground work due to the team-based format, but isn't inherently ground-oriented.

Anonymous at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 20:57:09 UTC No. 159677

>>153914
Any one know good Sambo training guides? Books or videos just something I can bring to open mats

Anonymous at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 21:01:46 UTC No. 159680

>>159677
Just learn bjj fag. Go find an instructional or ask your coach and the higher belts. Its just better than sambo.

>But my takedown
Go learn wrestling and maybe supplement with some judo aspects

Anonymous at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 21:06:57 UTC No. 159683

>>159680
I am I just want to read and try something new
because I want to

Anonymous at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 22:09:10 UTC No. 159696

>>159680
Sambo is like judo+lethwei
Which is not worse than bjj

Anonymous at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 22:12:09 UTC No. 159697

>>153914
In sambo you’re not allowed to do jokes and guard is considered a stalling position

Anonymous at Wed, 2 Aug 2023 22:49:40 UTC No. 159699

>>153911
randori

Anonymous at Thu, 3 Aug 2023 00:47:21 UTC No. 159712

>>159601
I completely agree

Anonymous at Thu, 3 Aug 2023 00:50:53 UTC No. 159713

>>159646
Then simply let go of them, if a person gets slammed then they let it happen. All you have to do is either grab the other persons leg as they try to stand up or let them go and get up as well

Anonymous at Thu, 3 Aug 2023 01:59:31 UTC No. 159729

>>159696
I believe there is a fair bit more wrestling and karate
It was an early mixing of martial art with tight rules

Anonymous at Thu, 3 Aug 2023 02:46:14 UTC No. 159732

>>159601
yes
sparring from knees is to get to the ground faster because we dont focus on takedowns, so fixing one problem will fix the other probably, but with the way things are its a good practice
depends what you mean by slams
hell yes, this will also encourage people to train takedowns, which will in turn fix the knee-start for rolling

Anonymous at Thu, 3 Aug 2023 04:20:59 UTC No. 159740

>>159732
Starting on the knees is the first sign you're in a bad school, you should immediately turn 360 degrees and shrimp away
If you insist on starting on the floor then start in a position
Kneeling in front of each other is not a position, it doesn't exist

I've seen people burn through an entire round grip fighting from their knees trying to knock each other over