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🧵 Speed Superiority

Anonymous No. 155669

Can you compensate weight and size with speed and power?

Or will size and raw strength always surpass wiry, technical speed and power?

Anonymous No. 155670

Lots of things "can". Not many "will".

Anonymous No. 155673

>>155669
> speed
Probably not. Speed.tends to imply mobility, and there's ways to counter that.
> power
Different story. Developing explosiveness under weight implies a certain threshold of strength, or at least fast twitch muscle, which is directly correlated with athletic performance.

Anonymous No. 155675

>>155669
It's all about how many weapons you have in your arsenal. Height, weight, strength, speed, endurance, skill, strategy, and more are all weapons. If your opponent is taller, heavier, and stronger than you, you will have to surpass him in at least three other ways in order to stand a chance.

Anonymous No. 155677

>>155673
So in theory, a professional Olympic lifter (with some fighting experience) could win a fight against a professional powerlifter (with little to no fighting experience)

Anonymous No. 155679

>>155677
How much weight is the oly lifter giving up? Also, oly lifters are weird. Here in the US, the more popular sports canabalize the guys with ridiculous vertical jumps and shit. Overseas, you get a mich better gene pool in their Olympic lift programs.

Anonymous No. 155680

>>155679
Non-roided, Eastern European, male, 5'9, 158 lb., power clean is easily 315 lb., fighting background is 3 months of thai boxing and 3 months of judo.

Powerlifter is male, non-roided, White American, 6'1, 225 lb., 550 deadlift and 315 bench press. No fighting experience

Anonymous No. 155684

>>155680
3 months ain’t shit, lmao

Anonymous No. 155686

>>155684
make it 6 for both arts

Anonymous No. 155688

>>155680
Powershitter gasses after two punches, dies of a heart attack.

Anonymous No. 155689

>>155669
Not always. I've won these kinds of fights and sparring sessions but it's always an uphill battle

Anonymous No. 155691

>>155680
Grappling is often the art of using leverage to amplify strength, but giving up 70lbs is going to need a LOT of leverage.

> 315lbs power clean at 158lbs
Holy shit, bro. Maybe that might be enough sauce.

Anonymous No. 155714

>>155669
Yes you can, especially if the other guy doesn't have fighting skills.
This is a legit 500 lbs bencher powerlifter vs a much smaller guy who doesn't even lift, but prepared for the "fight".

https://youtu.be/fIy1k4v-pac?t=239

Also cool video about the judo training version of smaller size but better technique vs bigger size and lesser technique.

https://youtu.be/2YS-WF6nlA0

Also a note, with weapons (sticks, knives, etc...) speed and power will win anytime over size.

Anonymous No. 158330

>>155669
Depends on who outweights you.
If it's a slow bag of fat like Akebono, you can do it easily if you're a decent fighter.
If it's a very strong guy who lacks skills and pain compliance like Bob Sapp, you can do it if your skills and speed are superior.
If he's not also big but also skilled like Semmy Schilt, it's very hard to beat him.
If he has granite chin like Valuev, then it's even worse because you don't have puncher's chance like when you fight a skilled opponent. The only possible way of beating someone like this I can think of is to be very good at bjj

Anonymous No. 158333

Explosivity and snappiness almost always dwarfs slow, raw strength.

Anonymous No. 159838

>>155669
when I was 14 I won a fight with a 20 something guy because we were fighting in the countryside and I kept outrunning the guy until he went out of breath and had to lie down

Anonymous No. 159844

>>158333
Trips of truth