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Anonymous No. 161904

Hey guys I wished to learn some martial arts for the first time and I want to choose between: takendo, karate and kickbox, to learn for self defense and street fights, tell me which style is the best for those and why thanks in advance

Anonymous No. 161905

>>161904
Googlefu

Anonymous No. 161915

>>161904
>takendo, karate and kickbox, to learn for self defense and street fights,
tell us anon, how are the streets in you are?
Full of olympic wannabes, wood boards or wallmart vandammes?

Anonymous No. 161916

>>161904
>>161915
These two posts have given me aids

Anonymous No. 161919

>kickboxing

Sparring is very important, and you won't get it properly in karate or taekwondo.

Anonymous No. 162099

>>161904
Kickboxing>karate>taekwondo

Anonymous No. 162131

>>161904
What is most conveniently located and actually in your price range?
Because if you don't actually consistently go to the place and train regularly then your results are going to be super shitty regardless.

Anonymous No. 162135

This really depends on the gym, you should go for a free first class at every gym to see which ones are serious.
As other posters have said, kickboxing > karate > taekwondo is generally true, but a good kyokushin karate gym with sparring and full of schizo dudes is better than a bad cardio kickboxing gym filled with middle aged moms. I'd be incredibly surprised if the taekwondo gym was better than the other two though, but taekwondo is better than no training in a street fight.

>>162131
This is also very true, make sure you actually want to go there

Anonymous No. 162141

Anything that you can regularly train against a resisting opponent is good.
If you only do theory and your sparring include your partner just going along with whatever you do, then it's better than nothing but it isn't that good.
>KickBoxing
Will get you good to fight pretty quickly after a year 2 years max. The sparring is very good downside is you can't get good without
>Taekwondo
Very powerfull kick. sparring is ok, but you don't get to go full force very often. Downside it takes years to master and it's not efficient on slipery surface
>Karate
It will get you self defense basic.
However there is no hard sparring most of the shit you do is anticipate the moves of an imaginary opponent like a choregraphy. Andif you're not usedto fighting, you might freeze when it's time to fight.

Go for kickboxing. If you want to avoid concussion take taekwondo, but avoid karate.

Anonymous No. 162225

>>161904
>Takendo
Do you mean tankendo or taekwondo? Because if it's the first it's a japanese martial art about bayonet fighting, so it will be hugely useful in streetfighting.

Anonymous No. 162349

>>161904
It really depends of the dojo and it's hard for a begginer to understand if something is or not a McDojo. If it's kyoukushin go for karate, if not kickbox is usually the safe option.

Anonymous No. 162399

>>162349
>kyokushin
You mean punching each other's chest until one gets tired?

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Anonymous No. 162429

>>162399
Yes.

Anonymous No. 164983

>>161904
>i want to learn a martial art for streetfighting
you will get killed because of your power fantasy

Anonymous No. 164987

>>164983
He won't get killed unless he'll be purposefully looking for a trouble. Ego boost has never killed anyone

Anonymous No. 164988

>>161904
>street fights
Low IQ
Instead of learning martial arts you should be studying morality

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Anonymous No. 164989

>>164988
>morality
Even lower iq

Anonymous No. 164996

>>162399
Well considering you can't condition your head kyokushin is pretty based.

Anonymous No. 164998

>>164989
>thinking this trash writer had any point.
Stupid

Anonymous No. 165001

>>164987
t. walks around fantasizing about fighting multiple attackers
>Ego boost has never killed anyone
except that your ego is the biggest reason you can get yourself killed, i would have agreed if you said confidence but not ego

Anonymous No. 165262

>>164987
You've never been in a fight

Anonymous No. 165266

>>165262
Many years ago I argued with a fat manlet and he got so angry he charged at me and probably wanted to knock me off balance with a push or greco roman me to the ground but I kicked his solar plexus and the fight was over

Anonymous No. 167151

>>161904
>short answer
Do some trial classes choose the one younlike better, is more convenient and affordable, and has the most enjoyable environment.

>long answer
Kickboxing in general is geared towards ring fighting and operates usually within a particular rule set. Very focused, practical and non nonsense for the sport, with lots of sparring and hands-on practice against people out to hurt you. You might run into some problems applying that to self defense if your ring game becomes cautious or reactive (focusing on counters) as for self defense overwhelming the attacker and shutting him down is usually a better strategy and giving space can lead to opportunities for the attacker to get you. Remember blocking with boxing gloves is infinitely easier than with your bare hands. You'll have no grapple experience save for maybe Muay Thai, in which you do clinches.

Karate will offer 3 completely different experiences depending on the focus of the style and dojo. If the place you end up training at focuses on Kata (forms) it's basically useless unless you seek to start a new journey afterwards applying the principles you learned there to more hands on martial arts, but the additional utility will be fairly small and the timeframe you'll be working on will be much greater, so if you're not a literal teenager you'll be pretty old by the time you reach your potential. If the dojo focuses on WKF point fighting you'll have very good explosive moves, reflexes and distance management skills and a pretty decent access to simple grappling, but the sport focuses on landing a single perfect strike to score, and no matter how strong you are you won't end a real fight in just a single blow, so it might drill into you bad practices. If the place focuses on full-contact (most are of the Kyokushin Karate style) you'll learn how to deal and tank barrages of heavy blows from close range; in thesis very good for a real fight.

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Anonymous No. 167154

>>167151
The problem with full contact Karate is that in most Dojos the grappling sucks (part of the syllabus but not practiced due to the competition rule set) and you won't practice real defenses, although it could be argue that defensive work is suboptimal for self defense (best defense is a good offense and all that, [spoiler]Strike First, Strike Hard, No Mercy; STRIKE LIKE THE COBRA KAI[/spoiler]).

Taekwondo will give you lot's of distance management and reflexes and fast and powerful kicks, but for da streetz kicking can be dangerous as it puts you off balance. Your defensive side will be also pretty poor but unlike in full contact Karate you won't have the volume to defend by attacking or the conditioning to just eat attacks, your only recourse will be to keep distance and snipe with kicks but that's
>complicated to pull off under stress
>high risk in case you mess up
>assuming you even have space to move around to begin with

I might be biased but I think TKD is your worst choice. Kickboxing will be generally better as long as you keep in mind the need to always be training aggressively with lots of volume and pressure. Karate can also be very good if it's full-contact focused; other approaches are valid for their own ends but ultimately not what you seem to be after.

Try out the classes you could attend and feel out the vibe of each place. Remember that convenience and enjoyment are extremely important because fighting needs a lot of training to kick in and you won't get that if you start skipping classes because it's a hassle or you don't find it fun to do.