Anonymous at Mon, 21 Aug 2023 17:34:54 UTC No. 162857

>>162855
No that’s retarded

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Aug 2023 17:40:07 UTC No. 162858

>>162857
How so? I'm genuinely curious about your arguments

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Aug 2023 17:45:15 UTC No. 162860

>>162858
not him but not sharing all of the info you have (if it is relevant to the techniques you are doing) just means you end up with worse partners. This means that you don't find the holes in your game faster, meaning you wont think about those holes and fix them and practice them until they are no longer holes. Holding stuff back means you win but dont actually get better. Its why rolling with a skilled upper belt is always better (once you reach a certain skill level) than rolling with a fresh white belt, because you always end up crushing the white belt but never learning anything.

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Aug 2023 17:48:08 UTC No. 162861

I know some... BUT IM NOT TELLING YOU TEHEHEHHE >:)

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Aug 2023 17:58:47 UTC No. 162862

These days, knowledge gate keeps itself. The amount of instruction available that's either overtly free, or obtained as such, means it's entirely your own stupid fault that you haven't found a way to enhance anything.

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Aug 2023 18:28:56 UTC No. 162865

There are no secrets. These days the real gatekept stuff is good coaching rather than details. I can tell you every detail of something, and it doesn't fucking matter unless you have someone ready to yell at you until you incorporate the details correctly.

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Aug 2023 19:51:05 UTC No. 162869

>>162855
you should share it because the "grip fighting" guy at my gym is really overzealous and infodumps so much it all becomes incomprehensible, like hey can you show me gripping? and then he gives 4 different gripping sequences meaning you don't even learn one at the end of it
and in addition to that he's a nit picker and likes to do things at full intensity so your fingers just get absolutely fucked working with him

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Aug 2023 22:40:23 UTC No. 162879

>>162855
No because I want to improve. By actively hiding certain techniques you become reliant on them in order to win, and I refuse to be reliant on some secret move. Also, just because someone knows of a technique doesn't meant they'll be able to recognize its use in different positions. I will always explain a technique the other person in my gym is unfamiliar with because it makes both of us better.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Aug 2023 14:13:59 UTC No. 162979

>>162855
i hide my techniques because i'm only a blue belt and i prefer to leave the upper belts thinking im lucky or something, everytime i showed a detail that allowed me to do something i got dismissed

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Aug 2023 15:21:19 UTC No. 163007

>>162979
I guarantee all those upper belts know exactly what you’re doing and don’t need you condescending to them.

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Aug 2023 15:58:52 UTC No. 163018

>>162855
I have a grab called the Ninjago but I don't talk about it

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Aug 2023 16:04:11 UTC No. 163020

>>163018
Gonna rock the town, without being seen?

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Aug 2023 17:08:00 UTC No. 163023

Teach them the counters->a rising tide raises all boats effect->more technical, better partners for you to use to get jiujitsu working instead of JUST a bunch of tough untechnical guys->more fun

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Aug 2023 19:30:06 UTC No. 163037

>>163023
Nice schizopost

Anonymous at Tue, 22 Aug 2023 21:22:38 UTC No. 163051

>>162855
If you're at a competition and show people your techniques it'd obviously be dumb but the schizo poster >>163023 is correct, if you don't share it with your team you'll never have it countered so you learn the next step, or have them do it to you so you can practice countering it against others. It hurts you in the long run if you don't at least show your training partners when they ask.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Aug 2023 21:24:21 UTC No. 163588

>>162855
the age of secret techniques is over, its all in the open there's hundred or thousands of tutorials on everything

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Aug 2023 22:02:02 UTC No. 163594

>>163588
This.
The real "secrets" are the application of drills, exercises, equipment etc to the student. That's where the real work is being done. And a lot of that is being just as openly, often to the disbelief of people who dislike any particular coach/trainer/style that said person is doing what they say they're doing.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Sep 2023 18:33:22 UTC No. 166917

>>162858
Big fish small pond, etc etc etc

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Sep 2023 23:33:41 UTC No. 166959

>>162855
>I have this document on grip-fighting (Judo) that allows me to dominate everyone in this aspect. Not sure if I should share it or not.
post it

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Sep 2023 06:33:28 UTC No. 167013

>>162855
>>162858
no. Im at the club to get objectively good at grappling so i can defend myself if I need to, not to feel good about myself for being some top alpha in a small pond.

the better my teammates are the better sparring partners i have and the better feedback I will get on drills and spars.
if they get better than me they can teach me cool shit without me having to look for it or develop it myself.

Your future nemesis wont care that youre the top guy in a gym full of shitters, he only cares about how objectively good you are at fighting, even if youre at the bottom rank of a top level gym

You dont have to teach everyone everything because you could be wrong, but if someone is genuinely struggling or is breaking an important principle you should offer some hints here and there.

Anonymous at Wed, 20 Sep 2023 23:36:42 UTC No. 167882

>>162855
More often than not when I share a genuine piece of experienced based information some nofights will tell me how I'm wrong. So not gatekeepeing but pearls before swine and all that

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Sep 2023 01:22:14 UTC No. 167890

>>167882
That often happens with something fairly simple too. Like some disengagement that you don't see much because it doesn't score points, or feint gaming, etc.

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Sep 2023 02:11:19 UTC No. 167895

>>167890
Yeah it's the peak of Mt. Stupid meme.

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Sep 2023 02:23:52 UTC No. 167896

>>162855
The opposite. I was so open with everything I know that my gymmates would ask me for advice instead of our coach. He even confronted me about it, and I'm like well shit man they ask me questions and I answer them, tf you want me to do?

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Sep 2023 12:38:14 UTC No. 168128

>>162855
Actually it's the opposite for me. My club gatekeeps techniques from us and I learn the real techniques by watching Youtube.
Then I start using the real techniques in class and the instructor is like wtf.

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Sep 2023 00:43:10 UTC No. 169710

>>162855
No because I want everyone there and myself to give a good fight

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Sep 2023 11:40:07 UTC No. 169794

>>168128
Sounds like your instructor is running a Cult McDojo, fist to his nuts sounds appropriate.

Anonymous at Tue, 3 Oct 2023 03:25:34 UTC No. 170295

>>162855
>gatekeep ... from your club
Absolutely dishonorabu. No wonder the west has fallen.