Anonymous at Thu, 24 Aug 2023 17:48:17 UTC No. 163345

In most cases if a person says a move is bad it's usually because they can't physically perform it and cope by saying the move is at fault, not my lack of discipline in learning it

With that said I'm not thrilled about that backwards pressure on the knee

Anonymous at Thu, 24 Aug 2023 17:59:06 UTC No. 163350

They're viable, but way more likely to land properly in a pure striking format. Tactically, think of them as a spinning technique. You need to be sure of your distance, and bait the opening. Some people like to spam a few fronts to get a cover mindset in their target, then blast it out from a chamber. But the setup can come from a few places, depending on what ruleset you're under and your own abilites.

Anonymous at Thu, 24 Aug 2023 23:52:59 UTC No. 163415

>>163340
manga name?

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Aug 2023 01:31:04 UTC No. 163434

>>163340
Google Andy Hugh, zoomer. Also, you should actually train martial arts instead of theorising about them on 4chan.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Aug 2023 04:10:38 UTC No. 163451

>>163415
Ichi the Killer. The live action movie is batshit and actually great, check it out.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Aug 2023 11:58:25 UTC No. 163500

>>163340
I tried to axe kick someone in a school fight once, I just fucked up my hamstrings and the guy I was fighting got a free ball punch

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Aug 2023 14:51:16 UTC No. 163523

>>163340
Kicking above your navel is a meme. Always strive to remove unnecessary movement. This is why TMA fails against MMA. So many useless flourishes. Yes once in a blue moon someone is lucky enough to land a really spectacular KO, but they are so rare they're practically useless. They are so situational & niche that there are numerous safe techniques to employ which is why many people who attempt them either miss completely, glance off, or get caught.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Aug 2023 15:33:50 UTC No. 163531

>>163523
>Kicking above your navel is a meme
>This is why TMA fails against MMA.
Retard. People kick above the navel all the time in MMA. In fact it's TMA that encourages not kicking above the navel because they think it's too risky on da streetz.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Aug 2023 15:35:37 UTC No. 163532

>>163523
Silvafrontkickko.exe

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Aug 2023 21:10:24 UTC No. 163585

>>163451
Never knew there was a live action movie. Is it as goofy and over the top as the manga? It's def one of my top 10.

Anonymous at Fri, 25 Aug 2023 23:14:02 UTC No. 163604

>>163500
You were a stupid fool that didn't even try to set it up with a ball kick first.

Lmao. There's correct methods to using it, you got to make them fear your strikes before you can land a massive one.

Anonymous at Wed, 30 Aug 2023 16:55:42 UTC No. 164363

Axe kicks are for keeping a downed opponent down

Anonymous at Thu, 31 Aug 2023 09:59:51 UTC No. 164451

>>164363
The Diaz brothers were some natty kings back then. Brave to go against obviously roided out fighters

Anonymous at Sun, 3 Sep 2023 05:25:46 UTC No. 164939

>>163340
it is practical but hard to apply in fights, also it is bad to your knee because of the landing and it is also hard to to stay on your feet after landing the kick

I did taekwondo my whole life and never really used it that much
it is viable but not the best technique to learn desu, there are tons of more important stuff to be concerned

Anonymous at Sun, 3 Sep 2023 08:41:20 UTC No. 164953

>>164363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO0X3H3uYPk

Not really, if you can set it up in a way your opponent can't react you can break bones with it.

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Sep 2023 03:08:06 UTC No. 165202

>>163340
Any kick above the waist is a meme, purely for show. The only possible exception is a forward kick to the gut to build distance.
>b-but Bruce Lee
Was an actor. If he was in a self-defense scenario he'd punch them in the nose or kick them in the knee/groin and then run.

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Sep 2023 04:06:46 UTC No. 165210

>>164953
Is meme cause more practical & equally effective techniques exist. It is all flourish.

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Sep 2023 05:53:51 UTC No. 165218

>>163345
ur right anon, the reason why I called scrapping your butt on the floor like a dog “bad” is because I cannot physically preform it and am actually super jelly of the people who can.

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Sep 2023 12:24:54 UTC No. 165245

>>165210
Its more of a high class thing to kick someone in the head than kneeing them, everyone can kick low and use their knees in myau thai fashion, but can you kick high to finish a match?

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Sep 2023 12:26:49 UTC No. 165246

>>165202
He was an actor yes but with legitimate martial arts experience from his time in Hong Kong and some other actors tried to mess with him and he whooped them a bit to tell them to fuck off.

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Sep 2023 15:03:05 UTC No. 165252

>>163585
A few things are toned down, some stuff was cut for time reasons, and the ending is different, but the pacing is imo significantly better.
I loved the manga but it really dragged at times. The movie has a faster pace.

Anonymous at Tue, 5 Sep 2023 22:50:56 UTC No. 165307

>>165218
Our one dog used to just sit and spin leaving lil shit doughnuts on the floor
Maybe that tecnique would work for you anon?

Anonymous at Wed, 6 Sep 2023 08:20:41 UTC No. 165360

>>165202
crop cop much?? retard

Anonymous at Sun, 1 Oct 2023 06:19:25 UTC No. 169967

>>163340
Seems like a great way to fuck your hamstring up.

Anonymous at Sun, 1 Oct 2023 07:02:34 UTC No. 169970

>>165245
then why don't you ask yourself why you don't do the 3600000 flabby seal twisted elbow esoteric ancient kungfu kick and hit your opponent's 7 secret dim mak points on his face and finish the match

Anonymous at Sun, 1 Oct 2023 07:05:51 UTC No. 169971

>>163340
An axe kick is incredibly easy to evade and also doesn't really hit with much power
There's just not much reward for the risk

Anonymous at Sun, 1 Oct 2023 07:14:56 UTC No. 169973

>>165245
I could kick a duck up the arse

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Oct 2023 00:59:25 UTC No. 170393

>>163345

I don’t like em because since Andy Hug nobody used ‘em effectively, at least to my knowledge

They are VERY prone to getting jammed, while this is common to all high kicks is even more noticeable on axe kick especially in mma.
Unless you specialize deeply into them they don’t even deliver that much power to justify the inherent risk imho

I agree that my critique might come from a lack of skill into using them but as a kicking enthusiast is probably my least used kick and I had made a point to use the most absurd turboautist kicking game in my mma gym, two touch spinning back kick unironically landed more than that dammed thing but again it still might be a skill issue idk, I’d love to see anybody but andy hug use em tho just for reference and inspiration to maybe try them again but at this point idk if they are worth training.

>pic rel just to (partially) invalidate your claim

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Oct 2023 06:06:28 UTC No. 170410

>>169971
if it hits your chin, you are dead, a high kick that misses can be turned into an axe kick.

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Oct 2023 16:24:47 UTC No. 170466

>>165245

You literally just have to be southpaw and a passable flexibility, ain’t that hard

The only street fight I had ended with a rear leg high kick as untrained randos don’t even conceptualize the idea of getting their head reaped off like that but is surprisingly easy.

Since the legs are stronger is easier to get a finish like that and harder with hands, or at least in my case

Anonymous at Wed, 4 Oct 2023 17:00:08 UTC No. 170472

>>170466
> Flexibility.
Just stretch V-Stretches at night before bed and do a mobility rotation stretch every morning, literally all you need for a good high kick if you know how to kick off the floor to gain height reach.

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Oct 2023 20:59:27 UTC No. 170686

>>170472

Im the guy that posted the middle split, my point is kicking at head level is in fact not hard at all unless you are a manlet or way too stiff.
Also southpaws have a easier time kicking your head off due to stances
That was the point I was trying to make, a head kick ko is way easier than it seems since once you land it is almost a guaranteed ko

Anonymous at Thu, 5 Oct 2023 22:02:34 UTC No. 170693

>>170686
most people are way too stiff due sedentary lifestyles.

Anonymous at Tue, 17 Oct 2023 07:24:39 UTC No. 172304

the axe kick is garbage and why keep insisting on trying to make it work? it has zero range, it takes too long to start, its obvious that your doing it. it doesn't do enough power to be worth it

Anonymous at Tue, 17 Oct 2023 19:52:35 UTC No. 172377

>>163340
it's a terrible kick. Takes a long time to kick, very telegraphed, leaves you completely open for a takedown, small are to hit, uses a lot of force. It's a bad kick plain and simple. Does not mean it can't work but there are way better options.

Anonymous at Tue, 17 Oct 2023 22:09:13 UTC No. 172393

>>172304
its only obvious if you make it obvious like any other big range strike.

Anonymous at Sat, 21 Oct 2023 05:29:36 UTC No. 172843

if your opponent is squared up and their arms are protecting their sides i feel like an axe kick coming up or coming down would probably get through reliably seems practical to me. cant you also do a outside to inside crescent kick to axe kick combo that would smash through a guard also? isnt that why a question mark kick works well? even if you dont disguise it i feel like it would still work for that simple application. i can add more to it but will wait for a reply first.

Anonymous at Sat, 21 Oct 2023 06:07:26 UTC No. 172844

>>170410
>if it hits your chin, you are dead
The only way an axe kick hits your chin is if you're looking up, so it would only work in combo with the "oh shit what's that" technique, which isn't very effective

Anonymous at Sat, 21 Oct 2023 08:20:56 UTC No. 172852

>>172843
>>172844
Axe kicks work because of the "oh shit" factor. It goes around a conventional guard and hits from an angle where few attacks come from. It can be countered if someone sees it coming, but it someone's prepared for an axe kick, then they're open for basic worked.

Andy Hug's axe kicks worked because he used them often enough that people would bite on his axe kick feints and expose themselves to punches down the middle. Hug had mediocre boxing and wouldn't have landed those shots were it not for his kicks.

Anonymous at Sat, 21 Oct 2023 17:45:55 UTC No. 172896

>>172852
I wouldn't even bite on an axe feint since they barely do anything, and all you have to do to avoid one is move off the centerline

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Oct 2023 00:24:35 UTC No. 172930

>>163340
>I've heard they're hit or miss because they live you in a vulnerable position

Not if you are Ichi the motherfucking killer they dont

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Oct 2023 04:46:42 UTC No. 172955

>>172896
never taken one on your collar bone with the heel? Gonna slam you down even if it doesn't hit your head.

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Oct 2023 12:34:39 UTC No. 172977

>>169967
Stretch more dude.
It isn't even that difficult of a kick to do compared to other high kicks.

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Oct 2023 01:59:41 UTC No. 173054

>>172955
Move in and jam them. It's a fun kick i like to throw in sparring but would never use in a fight

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Oct 2023 02:20:18 UTC No. 173059

>>172955
No? What kind of a pussy are you that that would hurt? If I even bothered to do anything about it, I would just raise my forearm in a cross block, then you can counter with a low kick and sweep their plant leg

Anonymous at Wed, 25 Oct 2023 19:06:56 UTC No. 173387

>>163340
It’s an advanced, niche kick that requires setup. Retards here think that if a technique isn’t easily and safely spammable by a retarded nub, it’s not good.

If you throw an axe kick out of the blue, you are going to get rekt. The biggest advantage of the axe kick is that it goes over the traditional guard for pretty much every other strike. It’s also hard to see coming. From the opponent POV, you could be going low, high, or very high, and it’s hard to tell until it’s almost too late. Use it to mix up and confuse your opponent.

For example, if you throw out a front kick to the stomach, a roundhouse to the body, and then an axe kick, you’ll catch most people off guard. Even if they can tell you’re going high, they’ll almost always be expecting a roundhouse. Throwing out some head punches before/after is also acceptable. Even if you don’t stick an axe kick very frequently, just the threat of it makes you more dangerous.

Also hit 4pl8 deadlift.

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Oct 2023 17:06:22 UTC No. 173483

>>163451
>The live action movie is batshit and actually great
lol no

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Oct 2023 19:08:38 UTC No. 173495

>>163340
they're shit because the range of motion is so low. you only have space to accelerate your foot downwards for like a foot. How much power do you really expect to be able to build up with that range of motion? There is no mass behind it, it is just the foot all alone.

Anonymous at Thu, 26 Oct 2023 22:12:42 UTC No. 173513

>>173495
gravity adds to the force if you have big legs, that's the point of why axe kicks ARE powerful they also target weak points like the head and the collar bone, easily damaged by such strikes.

>>173387
They are morons stuck in the street fight mentality, muh streets only.

in muh streets you gonna get stabbed.

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Nov 2023 01:21:42 UTC No. 177455

>>163585
This is abstract but it feels very sickly. Where the manga is more noir the film is more sickly and disgusting.
There's something cold about the manga but something actually diseased and rotting about the film. Enjoy

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Nov 2023 14:39:55 UTC No. 177523

>>163340
Kicking higher than your navel is a meme that has been statistically insignificant.
>bUT wHAt BoUt tHiS Le ePic ViRAl vIdEo!!!!!
Statistically insignificant, it's pure luck. For every 1 attempt someone succeeds a million others fail. It's a crap technique.
>>163523
This
>>163531
You're a retarded casual. Guess what dipshit, watching rekt fight highlights on 4chan does not make you an expert. You have no frame of reference for how astoundingly wrong you are because you don't really watch fights.

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Nov 2023 16:09:26 UTC No. 177539

>retard raises his leg for an axe kick
>kick or knee his nuts
>fight over
>gg fgt

Anonymous at Sat, 2 Dec 2023 00:37:36 UTC No. 177795

But Baki's dad does it all the time

Anonymous at Mon, 4 Dec 2023 21:41:39 UTC No. 178171

I doubt you actually train, you dingbat, but if you do:
figure out 2-3 ways to set it up during sparring
drill it
use it during sparring
use it during competition
etc

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Dec 2023 05:54:55 UTC No. 180545

>>163340
Taekwondo chicks that can axe kick are invariably great in bed. Having one try it on you and then getting frisky on her when she inevitably gets her leg stuck on 6our shoulder is some of the most fun I've ever had with my ex.

Anonymous at Fri, 22 Dec 2023 06:02:24 UTC No. 180547

>>170393
Counter point, some moves just plain don't work unless you send them with full intent and I'm certain you're not trying to heel smash people with all your might in the gym

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Dec 2023 07:33:12 UTC No. 180780

>>177523
>Its pure luck that you can set someone up with a 1-2 combo then headkick them in their blind spot over their shoulder

>>163340

Ax kicks, crescent kicks, and hook kicks fall in the category of it can work but the amount of effort necessary to make it work could invariably be better spent elsewhere. Roundhouse kick and front kick are the bread and butter no one would question works, with spinning side kick, and hook kicks being in the middle ground and sidekicks on and Brazillian kick on the fringes.

Also on Andy Hug he did all kinds of crazy shit we have never seen replicated like a tko with a spinning hook kick to the leg lol.

Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 07:12:10 UTC No. 181610

>>180780
hook kick is a fun way to make your opponent mald, which is great for technical fighters