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Anonymous No. 165181

How do fighters, especially boxers, run and do tons of constant cardio and still have muscular physiques and plenty of power/strength? Is /fit/ lying to me about cardio killing gains and bulk/cut cycles?

Anonymous No. 165183

Steroids.

Anonymous No. 165185

If you know when the drug test is it's not a drug test it's an IQ test

Anonymous No. 165186

>>165181
>wake up
>eat
>train
>eat
>train
>eat
>train
>eat
>test some new roids
>eat
>go to bed
>repeat

Anonymous No. 165187

>>165186
This. The reason most boxers get taken advantage of in the long term is that they've had their entire lives paid for by someone else at some point. Every meal, every bill etc so they can just train and do fuck else.

Anonymous No. 165425

>>165181
Yes, you have. Cardio doesn't kill your gains brah, it also helps you fuck better.

Boxers also have the advantage of being in a hyper masculine environment almost 24/7 so their T is peak production.

Also, they eat a lot. When I trained I had to get in circa 5500 cals every day and struggled. Some boxers clear 8000 cals a day.

Anonymous No. 165717

Here's how you beat the drug testing in professional MMA
1) you have a nice long amateur & semipro career during which you roid freely and are not tested
2) you've made it to a big league and now you are getting tested. What do you do?
(a) you contract a lab to make novel substances for you that they can't test for
(b) you update the location app with fake locations so you can't get caught suddenly
(c) you get two free missed tests with no repercussions so roid as much as you like and just refuse/dodge the first couple of tests
(d) you make yourself popular so that the league gives you a heads-up and/or bribes the testers to skip testing you
(e) you come from a country called Brazil/Russia where the immigration officials protect you and hold up drug testers entering the country
(f) you live in a country where the america-based test company contracts local testers who you can bribe for a pass
(g) you travel to a foreign country called Thailand where the hotel managers stall testers in the lobby and let you out the backdoor
(h) you use substances that have short half lives
(i) you rig up a fake cock pump using a rubber dildo with pipe inside to pass clean piss
(j) you get your baseline test levels before your first sample extra high (and bribe a doctor to sign off on it) so that all subsequent samples are measured against those
(k) you bribe a supplement company to back up a "contaminated supplement" excuse and take the slap on the wrist for it
Those are some of the methods I've seen

Anonymous No. 165718

>>165181
>Is /fit/ lying to me about cardio killing gains
Yes.

Anonymous No. 165725

>>165718
I'm love running and my bmi is 18.5. My brother's bmi is 19.3 and my father's is 22.5. They eat less than me but they don't do cardio.

Anonymous No. 165926

>>165183
fpbp

Anonymous No. 165930

>>165181
Cardio doesn't kill gains, that's cope from lazy retards that don't understand that exercise burns calories.

Anonymous No. 165952

>>165930
>Cardio doesn't kill gains,
it does lol.
>>165930
>don't understand that exercise burns calories.
which cardio is lol.

Anonymous No. 165956

>>165181
Pro athletes spend all day training and eating. You spend like 8 hours a day at a desk job and also browse 4chan. Its not the same thing. Its like that bjj champ who is ottermode and only eats pasta and pizza for like 7 thousand calories at night! Would be impossible for a normal person to dedicate enough time to training to burn that shit off.

Anonymous No. 166166

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfcaMF1ipvk

Or if you don't care enough to watch the video I will give my own explanation.
There is a difference between being built like a fighter and being built like a body builder.
The people on /fit/ talking about cardio killing gains are (wannabee) bodybuilders. To them fighters are small and barely muscular compared to their ideals and goals.
They want to be freakishly massive. And yeah, if that is your goal then cardio is going to cut into your max mass potential.

However if your goal/ideal is more in line with the physique of fighters then lots of cardio would be massively beneficial in reaching that goal.

Anonymous No. 166177

>>165181
Generous steroid usage. Only gymcels that dont have a steady connect would say otherwise.

Anonymous No. 166187

>>165930
It does unless you are sugar loading, which most endurance athletes do anyways.

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Anonymous No. 166189

>>166166
WWE guys even those that do steroids (most of the big ones) do bodyweight shit and other forms of cardio to keep their bodies up and running so to speak... Hindu Squats are one of best examples, keeps your legs agile and builds up cardiovascular endurance, yet it doesn't kill gains, how?

Anonymous No. 166501

>>165181
Boxers don't need an excessive amount of muscle, traditional boxing trainers frowned on anything but calisthenics and feared lifting would make fighters musclebound. Ali did nothing but calisthenics, so did Hagler, and Tyson was the same under Cus D'Amato and Kevin Rooney. For the old school, the ideal physicque for a boxer was identical to pro dancer or a gymnast. Most of the famous heavyweights of history were under 200 pounds, Ali was only 180-190 at his prime. Ray Robinson didn't lift weights either. The Soviets were the first to really study and integrate weightlifting exercises into boxing training and most of their guys look skinny and thin, again prioritizing the gymnast/dancer body type.

Today, boxers take a shit ton of steroids, lift weights, and eat a lot to get those huge muscular physiques so the heavyweights of this era are 240 pound giants. For boxing old heads, this is why the sport sucks today. When your 230 pound beast, it makes it difficult for you to execute technique, your large frame drains you in the ring so fights become snooze fests where boxers coast rounds to survive, and all that bulking up means they spend less time training actual fighting skills. Anthony Joshua is a prime example of a guy who's too big and has poor technique because he's obsessed with being muscular. He got the shit kicked out of him by a fat guy with worse skills but better boxing technique.

In boxing, physique serves technique. Your body only needs to be good enough to apply the tactics you've learned in the ring. James Toney could be an overweight slob but had phenomenal technique.

Anonymous No. 166990

>>165181
Steroids and growth hormones

Anonymous No. 167059

>>165181
cardio kills gains is just an excuse to not run

Anonymous No. 167158

>>165187
gitwm

Anonymous No. 167159

>>165952
Then why do all successful bodybuilders do it?

Anonymous No. 167161

>>165181
imagine posting the same thread over and over again, fuck off and load up on carbs faggot.

Anonymous No. 170704

>>167159
Because they can afford to bc they are fucking roiding did you read

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Anonymous No. 170738

>>165181
Cardio doesn't kill gains. The big guys do a lot of weight lifting and strength training though. Grappling is also a pretty good full body workout.

Anonymous No. 170891

>>165181
That's such a thick neck wtf

Anonymous No. 172250

>>166501
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6uhuSimf-A