🧵 It's time to learn a striking art
Anonymous at Sat, 28 Oct 2023 19:09:17 UTC No. 173720
I've grown tired of BJJ, it's time to learn how to hit people.
The only question is, what striking art is considered best to learn in 2023 if you know ZERO striking?
>Boxing
>Muay Thai
>Kickboxing
>Some other shit no one cares about
Please help.
Anonymous at Sat, 28 Oct 2023 19:36:35 UTC No. 173723
>>173720
If you can only learn one thing, go for a kickboxing style. Boxing is good to crosstrain into but is more limited.
Avoid TKD, karate, and kung-fu like your life depends on it
Anonymous at Sat, 28 Oct 2023 19:50:53 UTC No. 173724
>>173720
Go for TKD, Karate, or Kung-Fu.
Anonymous at Sat, 28 Oct 2023 20:54:56 UTC No. 173732
>>173720
I would definitely choose something that has kicks (MT or kickboxing). You can’t go wrong with either if it’s a legit gym. Go check out a free class and see what gym you like more.
Anonymous at Sat, 28 Oct 2023 21:54:33 UTC No. 173737
>>173720
I would do either kickboxing or Muay Thai
Anonymous at Sat, 28 Oct 2023 22:05:29 UTC No. 173739
>>173720
box
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_o
Anonymous at Sat, 28 Oct 2023 22:15:54 UTC No. 173740
>>173720
IMHO, the quality of coach matters way more than the specific style.
All things being equal, sure, learn how to kick and how to clinch. But if your choices are a yuppy cardio-kickboxing studio, and a salty old boxing coach, the choice is clear.
Find a coach that has a proven record of success in competition. Find a coach that produces successful fighters, even if you're not interested in competing yourself.
Anonymous at Sat, 28 Oct 2023 22:20:14 UTC No. 173741
>>173720
Myau Thai is good, easily available world wide so its a good pick. You don't even need a top tier gym just a proper teacher who can correct your form and a non-aggressive not-a-piece-of-shit sparring partner who wants to help you get good as well as themselves, as long as you are willing to work on it.
Anonymous at Sun, 29 Oct 2023 05:07:24 UTC No. 173769
>>173720
Lethwei or Sanda.
Anonymous at Sun, 29 Oct 2023 10:14:39 UTC No. 173781
doesn't matter as long as the coach and atmosphere is good but kickboxing seems like fag shit in my country, only women and twinks train it and they always suck ass in sparring
taekwondo can unironically be good if you have a good coach who is korean and old school, not enforcing kimono shit and formality, I'm sure the same goes for certain karate styles, I would not recommend it as the sole focus of your striking training though cause TKD clinch is awful and it's punches are a joke, good thing about TKD is the distance is similar to MMA which I guess you're looking to transition into and the footwork is pretty solid
I train and compete in muay thai and cross-train boxing, taekwondo and MMA, background in greco
Anonymous at Sun, 29 Oct 2023 10:16:18 UTC No. 173782
The one with good coaching and partners within an acceptable travel distance to you.
Anonymous at Sun, 29 Oct 2023 10:18:25 UTC No. 173783
Muay Thai/Kickboxing for several reasons.
You've already grappled so free to kick. It's the most complete. While having Boxed before Muay Thai/ Kickboxing is a feint/trick game more then most other stuff. A good Muay Thai/Kickboxer knows how to trick others well and in turn a better boxer would get shutdown.
Most competent Muay Thai fighters have a whole Box of tricks they can exploit.
Anonymous at Sun, 29 Oct 2023 14:25:22 UTC No. 173803
>>173720
Go straight to an mma gym
Anonymous at Sun, 29 Oct 2023 15:55:59 UTC No. 173807
>>173720
Karate.
You only have one brain, don't waste it by getting hit in the head.
Anonymous at Sun, 29 Oct 2023 16:15:36 UTC No. 173811
Puro resu. Strong punches and high dropkicks.
Anonymous at Sun, 29 Oct 2023 18:19:30 UTC No. 173815
>>173769
It's a shame that Sanda doesn't have a presence outside of China. As one of the few non-chinese to actually train its a legitimate system
Anonymous at Sun, 29 Oct 2023 19:21:33 UTC No. 173825
>>173803
This. You can't really go wrong with a decent MMA gym since they'll distil what's useful in striking for a no holds barred/self-defense context and help you integrate your BJJ expertise. You'll be itching to use your takedowns if you stick to a pure striking MA and probably get frustrated with it. Muay Thai has options for trips and dumps but it's not the same.
MMA sparring is also really, really good fun.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Oct 2023 02:46:46 UTC No. 173875
>>173720
Boxing, then learn some kickboxing/muay thai. I personally believe boxing is the best base for striking as it teaches fundamentals that many people overlook (Footwork, controlling the ring/space you are in, etc.) It also has a lower learning curve compared to muay thai so it'll get you used to striking and being struck quicker. once you get the hang of it you should expand with muay thai or kickboxing.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Oct 2023 05:38:58 UTC No. 173886
>>173815
Its a competition format for kung fu arts so of course its a legitimate within rules as is kickboxing and so on which is muay thai/karate mix basically.
Sanshou used to allow more takedowns until the takedowns turned it into basically wrestling and now we got Sanda.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Oct 2023 14:28:47 UTC No. 173917
>>173886
Sanda is a modern hybrid system not "practical application of Kung fu". Don't get it twisted
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Oct 2023 15:39:13 UTC No. 173923
>>173917
nta, but while i agree it is the former, it can also be the latter. both can be true at once. every technique in sanda can be found in cma. too bad so few cma nerds acknowledge its potential, let alone embrace it as a means of pressure-testing their respective arts, which is why the few places one may find nearby that offer classes in it, are trash, more often than not. hopefully with enough buzz around sanda online more and more people end up training in it, so that we may see it make a long overdue comeback.
>>173782
best answer by far.
may i suggest, OP, that you shift your focus to finding the best fight gym/martial arts school nearby, rather than looking for a specific style to train in, only to learn the nearest place that teaches it, teaches it poorly, and travel to and from said place is too long, expensive, or otherwise troublesome to justify continuing your training there, leaving you utterly disappointed, feeling robbed of your time, money, and energy, and feeling lied to?
happened to me once. wouldn't wish such a fate onto anyone, to be fair.
on the bright side, if you don't heed my advice, once you leave said subpar martial arts school, you'll end up searching for gyms using the criteria that i and others itt have suggested anyway, those being
>availability
and
>quality of instruction
so ultimately, whether you realize it or not, you'll take my advice regardless.
if you're lucky, the standard striking gym in town or the next town over may do things that aren't advertised on their website. for instance, the local kickboxing gym i train at, during the off-season when no one's training for a competition, organizes these fun little mini-games from time to time, like sumo but with boxing gloves, where if one of the two sparring partners falls to the ground or is pushed out of bounds, another takes their place, and so on. so pay a visit to your local (kick)boxing gym or whatever other school of the striking variety - they might surprise you.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Oct 2023 18:07:06 UTC No. 173938
>>173923
>nta, but while i agree it is the former, it can also be the latter.
Pure cope.
>every technique in sanda can be found in cma
You're a CMA fag that knows fuck all about Sanda. Next your gonna tell me that cma invented the jab and other boxing and western kickboxing fundamentals or that ACKshually its cho li fut or some dumb shit like that.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Oct 2023 04:27:42 UTC No. 173977
>>173938
Jab comes from fencing instructors applying it to boxing with gloves, bare knuckle and pugilism didn't really use jabs like they do in boxing since they could break their wrists or knuckles if they did so.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Oct 2023 16:19:20 UTC No. 174000
>>173938
how is it cope? i'm not a cma fag, and i've trained in sanda myself briefly. you're barking up the wrong tree, brother.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Oct 2023 16:54:38 UTC No. 174007
I've never seen a sanda guy not get his ass kicked.
t. Admittedly a MT fag
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Oct 2023 17:26:59 UTC No. 174011
>>174007
I think it has some promise as a potential mixed skill development platform, but at the moment, there's really just Cung Le. And I think his wrestling was fairly underrated as far as being his real base.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Oct 2023 23:37:38 UTC No. 174065
>>174000
>every technique in sanda can be found in cma
Like I said, you know fuck all about it. You're absolutely a coping tcmfag
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Nov 2023 01:13:10 UTC No. 174074
>op calls out 3 sports and "martial arts no one gives a single shit about"
>discussion ends up being completely about that shit no one cares about
it's like pottery
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Nov 2023 03:50:41 UTC No. 174083
>>174074
That's because any mention of Sanda will bring in the tcmcultists flocking in with their retardation
>>174082
It's extremely gay. Has nothing to do with Sanda
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Nov 2023 07:21:54 UTC No. 174102
>>174065
keep telling yourself that. i had to leave a kung fu school that taught sanda haphazardly, ended up at a local kb gym, and now i train in kyokushin. i have no loyalty to any one martial art or category of martial arts. technically nothing i've said itt so far is wrong.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Nov 2023 10:22:10 UTC No. 174109
>>173720
Any martial sport is good, avoid martial arts like a plague.
My MT Khru taught us in the gym important lesson - "You have to punch like you waat to kill the fucker in front of you" as opposed to when I was young and attended TKD "avoid hurting your opponent" lol