๐งต Japanese Pro Wrestling was proto-mma
Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 01:01:21 UTC No. 175700
Or at least they kick, punch and do some grapples also they actually train like combat sports (of course it was scripted but its something I guess).
Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 01:42:02 UTC No. 175702
>>175700
I mean shooto and other organizations that were formed by pro wrestlers were holding mixed martial arts bouts a few years before UFC was ever a thing
Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 15:00:37 UTC No. 175751
Yes, we know
Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:20:16 UTC No. 175789
>>175700
Beat Ali.
Anonymous at Wed, 15 Nov 2023 19:32:53 UTC No. 175947
No, Brazilian Vale tudo was proto-MMA. They were doing MMA fights with minimal rules like 50 years before UFC and Pancrase, competing to prove how one style of fighting was superior to the rest. This is where the Gracies got famous and where their family challenge came from. Foreigners, ie. Kimura, sometimes went to Brazil to test their skills there, typically by invitation. UFC was born because Rorion Gracie wanted to do the same thing as Valetudo but in America. That's why Royce was brought in and why some people say that early UFC was rigged in favor of the Gracies.
Anonymous at Wed, 15 Nov 2023 19:55:37 UTC No. 175948
>>175947
Pankration was the OG mixed martial arts.
Anonymous at Wed, 15 Nov 2023 21:45:43 UTC No. 175962
>>175948
Well that's true