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Anonymous No. 181934

>What's the point in learning a martial art if I can just carry a gun?

Why is this retarded statement so frequently used?

Anonymous No. 181937

they're being silly gooses and probably don't even carry a gun either, because a gun is a martial art
you need to practice with it just like the swordsmen of antiquity needed to
when you're practicing your draw and dry firing you're doing a gun kata
you need to run drills and throw rounds down range because you can't miss fast enough to win a gun fight
also importantly you need to have at least a sub 2 second draw to first shot or your gun is just a melee weapon with a noise maker attached

and lemme tell ya sport, if you don't have a draw thats both fast and accurate you better know how to wrassle because you just introduced a gun into the situation and the other guys hands are already on it

Anonymous No. 181938

>>181934
A gun is great to de-escalate a situation but terrible for self-defense
You'll scare off 99% of possible attackers by flashing your gun, but if someone is actively attacking you, a gun is no better than a knife. Life isn't a Clint Eastwood movie where you quick draw and drop the guy in one shot, if you have reason to shoot somebody, it means he's already on top of you. Guns are made to shoot things far away, not someone on your face.

Anonymous No. 181943

>>181934
Fatties want to believe they’re superior without putting in any effort. It’s no different from the retards who say
>heh, so you think you can beat me cuz ur a boxer? Well what will you do when I bite you
As if no heavyweight champion boxer ever bit a motherfuckers ear off.

Anonymous No. 181947

It's a cope.

If someone who knows extensive martial arts has a gun pointed at their head, they'll fight to take it. Unless the gun is standing 20 feet away or is behind you and executing you, the gun is no better than them.

Anonymous No. 181957

>>181947
Absolutely retarded statement, I can pull the trigger waster than you can move your arm.

Anonymous No. 181968

>>181938
>nogunz drivel
You got a kek out of me.

Anonymous No. 181971

>>181957
Pull the trigger at what? Inside your pant leg?

Anonymous No. 181978

>>181938
Don’t ever post anything related to firearms or self defense again. If you have guns turn them in before you get yourself killed or arrested.

Anonymous No. 181980

>>181938
>You'll scare off 99% of possible attackers by flashing your gun
ehehheh hhhahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

Anonymous No. 181981

>>181978
This.

>>181938
You have never even held a gun before in your life.
>A gun is great to de-escalate a situation but terrible for self-defense
A gun ESCALATES the situation. The moment you draw a firearm, you're goal is to kill, not to scare people you fucking retard. The rules of firearm safety specify - do NOT aim your gun at anything you're not willing to destroy.

If you bring a gun out, even in a self defense situation, the other fucker can and will do the same if given the opportunity.

>You'll scare off 99% of possible attackers by flashing your gun
Attackers are violent, irrational creatures. You have never held a gun before, I can tell by you saying this.

>Life isn't a Clint Eastwood movie where you quick draw and drop the guy in one shot
Who says you shoot the guy once? If you're at the point in an attack where you're goal is to kill, you unload your fucking clip and make sure nobody else is on your ass. The fact that you're saying this is irrefutable proof you've never held a gun in your life.

Anonymous No. 181991

I have a question as a nogunz here,

How the fuck can you walk around, run around, move or work with anything when you have a handgun on a side of your body? Seems kind of like a bitch to do anything until the 1 possible situation you may ever use it comes around.

Anonymous No. 181994

>>181991
Sub compact carried appendix with loose fitting clothes
Yes it's uncomfortable but most CCW guys are obese anyway so it sits under their gut flap

Anonymous No. 181995

>>181991
Holster? I just tuck in the back of my belt

Anonymous No. 181996

>>181991
There are guns made smaller specifically for concealed carry purposes it’s not hard at all. 90% of the time I keep a snub nose .38 in my front pocket which makes it even easier.

Anonymous No. 182000

>>181957
But can you pull the trigger faster than I can slip to the side while moving my arm to parry yours, factoring in reaction time? Probably not

Anonymous No. 182001

>>182000
Lmfao, Mac is that you?
https://youtu.be/90P4xDwLpGo?feature=shared

Anonymous No. 182019

>>182001
If its within arms length, what I said is absolutely true. Are people in general really going to aim for the head if they're in safe drawing distance? They'll aim for center of mass

Anonymous No. 182027

>>181934
>Why is this retarded statement so frequently used?
Because people are idiots. Dunning-Kruger effect on display. Anyone saying this has not fully considered the issue. Look into Craig Douglas and Shivworks for a really interesting look at the intersection of empty handed skills and weapons craft.

Say what you will about Icy Mike, but he actually does a pretty good job of running down the Shivworks courses he's attended:
https://youtu.be/CH4raN4cMBk?feature=shared
https://youtu.be/DpbV9Q-Rd3M?feature=shared

Anonymous No. 182066

>>182019
Stop watching Detroit urban survival before you get yourself killed

Anonymous No. 182143

>learning martial arts for "self-defense"
retard-kun...

Anonymous No. 182163

>>182000
If I turn my drawing side away, and use my off hand to parry your parry, I can attack from a "bow and arrow" stance and you'll be cooked

Anonymous No. 182189

>>181934
My solution is to just live in a country where violent crime rates aren't on par with 3rd world countries.

Anonymous No. 182206

>>182163
Clears hand, hugs around body pinning far side arm, tani otoshi to the ground and landing in top position in your path :^)

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Anonymous No. 182212

>I'll just grapple your gun arm an-
What now nigga

Anonymous No. 182214

>>182212
Fug

I uh... Uh... Kick you? Fuck I don't know...

Anonymous No. 182230

>>182066
idk, never watched that guy. I know he got punked by sean strickland trying to do whatever it was
>>182163
By the time you've thought to counter my parry, I've already moved into your personal space, and you might only have a 50/50 chance of getting a shot off

Anonymous No. 182232

I just live in a country without violent niggers

Anonymous No. 182235

I don't go to the bad neighborhoods and am bigger then most guys.
I am pretty competent with a firearm but do not see the need to carry it around, and don't want to kill people.
Since in my mind it's a last resort, and if I am drawing I or the one I need to kill is dead.

Honestly training to run would be more useful, since then I could out run the opponent and get home.
>>181991
Most who carry have a smol gun as others posted. A slim gun like a 1911 or other single stacks won't print if you wear a bigger coat/are fat+loose clothing, or have an odd holster. Last decade there has been a proliferation of equipment, firearms, and training for CCW
>>181937
fpbp

Anonymous No. 186719

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Anonymous No. 186894

>>181934
fat lazy americans

Anonymous No. 186915

>>182235
>A slim gun like a 1911 or other single stacks won't print if you wear a bigger coat/are fat+loose clothing
It's 2024. We have sub-compact 9mm wonder weapons that are slightly bigger than an average male's hand that can hold 15 rounds and smaller in width than a single stack 1911. It's ridiculous.

Anonymous No. 186933

>>181991
It's easier and more comfortable to carry a gun in a secure holster than a large modern smartphone in your pocket. Inside-the-waistband holsters keep the gun very out of the way but still easy to draw. Outside-the-waistband holsters vary based on the activity they're meant for--competition holsters stick out a lot so your body doesn't get in the way of a fast draw but concealment holsters hug your body closely.

Anonymous No. 186934

>>181994
>Yes it's uncomfortable but most CCW guys are obese anyway so it sits under their gut flap
It's fairly comfortable if you're not fat and have the right holster setup. It's easier for fat guys to carry on the hip or the small of their back.