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Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jan 2024 23:33:28 UTC No. 183192
Can we all agree size, strength and athleticism is more important than """skill""" in unarmed combat?
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Jan 2024 23:34:55 UTC No. 183194
>>183192
I don't care how much bjj, boxing or wrestling skill you have
If you are less than 110kg, not elite trained, and meet this fucker in the street, you are done for
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 04:47:35 UTC No. 183227
No, refer to Judo and realize you're wrong.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 05:41:58 UTC No. 183230
it is the most important but those are intrinsic qualities you can only improve so much
the skill ceiling is much higher for most people so it's a worthwhile time investment if you don't have those other assets
your body is a sword, your skill is the edge on that sword, but a big dull sword can still be used as a club
I'd take a blunt long sword over a razor sharp dagger any day
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 06:00:04 UTC No. 183231
Thank you M'lord for gracing this board.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 06:01:08 UTC No. 183232
>>183194
>Front kicks leg
>Hyper extend his knee
>Weight of twin towers comes crashing down
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 06:48:06 UTC No. 183235
>>183232
simple as that. unskilled noobs dont realise how easily anyone of any shape or size can be destroyed but skills are genetic desu
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 08:25:51 UTC No. 183239
>>183192
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MWEL-
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GnThi
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xyYLw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2i0iZ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ndkro
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e1-u_
Can we all agree we have this thread too often?
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 11:57:59 UTC No. 183246
>>183232
More like:
>Front kick his leg
>Nothing happens because you can't generate enough force with accuracy to hyper extend a 150kg man's knee who has connective tissue twice as thick as yours
>Realise you're not Jon Jones, you're just a fucking idiot filled with hubris as the man pushes you over into top mount/half guard and punches you into a coma.
>Parents come to visit your intubated braindead 160lb body, both wondering how they raised such a dumb fuck who thought he could beat a giant up with karate
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 12:12:57 UTC No. 183249
>>183227
You ain't judo throwing 200kg in a street fight
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 12:17:48 UTC No. 183250
>>183239
This destroys the fatfags.
There's also that one time a bodybuilder got literally killed in one kick by a manlet.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 13:25:32 UTC No. 183255
>>183194
If I met him on the street and he was unfriendly, I would run away cause I don't think he's a fast runner.
I can also imagine 100 kg Jon Jones running around to tire him out, throwing a jab, a fancy kick or an eye poke from time to time, stopping him with an oblique kick when he tries to attack and then going for a single leg and finishing him on the ground.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 13:58:39 UTC No. 183256
>>183250
>Omg look this highly trained Pro fighter got lucky!
You aren't an elite Pro level fighter.
Sit down
It's much easier to become big/athletic and mog hobbyists like you
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 14:01:05 UTC No. 183257
>>183255
If that guy had the level of training of Jon Jones, he would literally be able to fight two Jon Jones at once
You think a 100kg man can't beat a 50kg man no matter how "skilled" he is? Lmao
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 14:32:02 UTC No. 183262
>>183257
>If that guy had the level of training of Jon Jones
>if
Where are all these huge fighting champions? I can't think of any above 130 kg other than Valuev.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 15:03:01 UTC No. 183264
>>183230
>I'd take a blunt long sword over a razor sharp dagger any day
You’re not gonna kill anyone with a blunt Longsword lol
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 15:28:16 UTC No. 183270
Remember: if you’re below 6’2 and 200lbs, nothing physical you do will ever matter. You will never be an athlete that people will respect and your fighting ability is severely limited. Your manletism is basically permission from God to sit around, get fat, and never improve yourself physically. Stop coping by pointing to midgets who make money in the MMA. They would die in the streets.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 15:39:10 UTC No. 183272
>>183270
>if you’re below 6’2 and 200lbs, nothing physical you do will ever matter. You will never be an athlete that people will respect
Nonsense, you can play soccer
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 15:52:00 UTC No. 183274
>>183249
Yeah you can.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 16:08:48 UTC No. 183277
>>183264
Don't be silly of course you can, it's a steel bar with a concentrated striking edge
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 16:30:50 UTC No. 183278
>>183277
You’d be much better off with an actual club. A Longsword is flexible and balanced towards the hilt making it useful for quick cutting and agile thrusts. A blunt Longsword can break bones, but I’d be more concerned about a dagger in my gut than a broken arm
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 16:59:52 UTC No. 183280
>>183239
>post actual evidence
>no one responds and everyone just continues with their “well I’m big and fat therefore you can’t beat me” shit
This is seriously the worst board
>>183256
>you need to be at an elite level to throw a headkick
Case in point. Look at this retard who doesn’t even train. These are the retards who use this board.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 17:14:37 UTC No. 183283
>>183192
There is a reason that weight classes exist. There are no men on this planet under 100kg that could defeat the Grizzly without a gun.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 17:29:29 UTC No. 183284
>>183274
T. Skinnyfat incel who hasn't had a fight in his life
This guy would destroy you
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 17:31:37 UTC No. 183285
>>183280
>He plans to throw headkicks in a real fight
And you have just exposed yourself as a clueless moron
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 17:35:15 UTC No. 183286
>>183284
No he wouldn't, I know Judo.
https://youtu.be/-FoX05u_saY?si=6nP
Cope harder.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 17:44:29 UTC No. 183287
>>183285
Lmao, do some stretching tubby and then maybe you’ll be able to get your leg up higher
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 18:12:31 UTC No. 183290
>>183286
>>183287
You have never been in a physical altercation in your life
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 18:19:15 UTC No. 183292
>>183286
That's a judo black belt Japanese competitor. If fat boy was throwing elbows the match would have ended after 0.5 seconds
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 18:26:21 UTC No. 183293
>>183290
Cope more
>>183292
>grappling doesn’t work when strikes are involved
There’s this newfangled thing called mma that proves it does
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 18:32:45 UTC No. 183296
>>183290
>You have never been in a physical altercation in your life
But I take Judo 4 times a week for the last 9 years. I've probably been in more physical altercations than you ever will.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 18:40:00 UTC No. 183298
>>183296
Judo doesn't prepare you for getting punched/elbowed/headbutted
It's a contrived system like aikido
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 18:43:38 UTC No. 183299
>>183298
>Judo doesn't prepare you for getting punched/elbowed/headbutted
Yeah it does.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 18:44:40 UTC No. 183300
>>183298
>martial art x which focuses on x moves doesn't prepare you for y
You can say the same about almost every martial art. That's what crosstraining is for.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 18:57:11 UTC No. 183302
>>183298
Being thrown and viscously snapped and grabbed at is a lot more preparation than doing light boxing and ring sparring.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 19:16:41 UTC No. 183303
>>183285
>He plans to throw headkicks in a real fight
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k-Vbn
Why not?
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 19:21:04 UTC No. 183304
>>183303
He probably heard some krav magoober tell him “never kick in a street fight” on the internet and just believed it as gospel for no reason. There’s a shocking amount of people who just believe dumb shit like this because a bald guy in camo pants who’s never actually been in a fight said so And refuse to think about it any further.
If we are in a fight on the street or in the ring and you leave your head open at a range I can kick it then I’m going to kick you in the head.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 20:45:45 UTC No. 183308
>>183278
what if he hit's you in the back of the head with it?
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 20:55:44 UTC No. 183309
>>183308
What if he teleports into your ballsack and blows it up from the inside?
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 21:32:00 UTC No. 183312
>>183246
>doesn't flinch
>run 40 yards
>buy myself 60 seconds to reorganise
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 23:29:34 UTC No. 183341
>>183302
>hes never been punched in the face
cute
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jan 2024 03:29:37 UTC No. 183363
>>183192
>Can we all agree that three factors combined are more important than one factor alone?
No shit.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jan 2024 05:45:04 UTC No. 183370
>>183341
I've been punched and kneed and elbowed in practice. Have you ever had the wind knocked out of you? Hit your head on the ground? Rolled your ankle? Lot worse than a bloody nose.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jan 2024 11:42:53 UTC No. 183387
>>183370
> he doesnt know what it feels like to eat a boxers 1-2
>he thinks rolling around on the mat is """fighting""""
Cute
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jan 2024 13:17:55 UTC No. 183391
>>183257
>You think a 100kg man can't beat a 50kg man no matter how "skilled" he is? Lmao
That's a different situation because 50 kg man is probably a bit underfed and very short.
Bloatlord is 185 cm with circa 185 cm reach and 35% body fat. Jon Jones was 193 cm with 215 cm reach and 15% body fat so despite big strength disadvantage, he would have significant reach and agility advantage plus he's one of the best fighters of all time.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jan 2024 15:27:12 UTC No. 183396
>>183257
The argument is not if size is important. Everyone knows size is important, thats why we have weight classes. the argument is whether size is more important than skill
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jan 2024 15:53:08 UTC No. 183397
>>183387
>he thinks he fights
>he's in a cardio circuit class
Cute
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jan 2024 16:26:00 UTC No. 183399
>>183396
Size is more important than skill if there is a significant size disparity between two fighters. Skill is more important than size when two fighters are roughly the same size. Both size and skill are always important though.
This is all common sense stuff. OP is just phrasing his post in a way to enrage manlets. A 150 lb fighter can be the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world but could lose to a guy who has never fought in his life but is a 300 lbs powerlifting champ. Are there ways a smaller fighter can win against someone that much heavier? Yes, but the odds are not in their favor. If the bigger dude was just a fat 300 lb alcoholic getting rambunctious at the bar, the odds would be more even.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jan 2024 17:39:50 UTC No. 183409
>>183192
Can we just agree that size and skill matter?
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jan 2024 19:28:58 UTC No. 183421
Strength and athleticism are good, however, size isn't.
Size is the price you pay for strength
A 180lb guy who OHP's 2pl8 will smoke a 230lb guy who OHP's 2pl8.
Also, you should try punching Mike Tyson and tell us what happens.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jan 2024 19:30:26 UTC No. 183422
>>183194
>implying M'Lord would attack someone unprovoked
He is a beacon of light and would never attack me.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jan 2024 19:32:27 UTC No. 183423
>>183256
You sound like you don't even lift.
Post body
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jan 2024 19:36:21 UTC No. 183424
>>183421
Tyson isn't tall but he's heavy. Best 135 lbs fighters would beat 95% of this board
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jan 2024 20:00:50 UTC No. 183433
>>183399
You say that as if the exact type of novelty match you’re describing hasn’t been played out over a 100 times now with the smaller guy who actually knows how to fight winning 90% of the time. Watch the actual fight videos in this thread. You dumbasses keep posting this same nonsense over and over again without evidence and ignoring all the actual evidence proving you wrong.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jan 2024 20:17:11 UTC No. 183439
>>183433
>%90
That's exaggeration. Bob Sapp, Hong Man Choi and Mariusz Pudzianowski won several fights, Valuev even was a boxing champ.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jan 2024 21:20:03 UTC No. 183444
>>183312
Reorganise, readjust, re-engage. Good.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jan 2024 21:38:59 UTC No. 183449
>>183424
I am heavier than Tyson and he would kick my ass tho, that's my fucking point.
Anonymous at Sat, 20 Jan 2024 21:40:03 UTC No. 183450
>>183439
Mariusz had a subpar career for someone who has elite level brute strength, tho. Brock lesnar would pwn him.
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jan 2024 09:56:52 UTC No. 183533
>>183192
yes
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jan 2024 10:41:14 UTC No. 183534
>>183194
doesn't hurt that grizzly also trains, he posts videos doing kickboxing all the time
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jan 2024 15:21:41 UTC No. 183553
>>183404
Fake bjj rules
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jan 2024 15:22:43 UTC No. 183554
>>183414
If that guy bear hugs you and crushes your spine, good luck reaching for your pea shooter
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jan 2024 15:40:41 UTC No. 183560
>>183553
Cope. Early UFC had like 3 rules.
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jan 2024 15:49:54 UTC No. 183561
>>183560
Everyone past beginner babby mode knows early UFC was rigged to make bjj look good
You have shown how new you are. I sorry l accept your concession
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jan 2024 15:53:14 UTC No. 183562
>>183561
Take your meds, conspiritard.
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jan 2024 16:32:59 UTC No. 183567
>>183399
I feel like youre just pointing out that skill can overcome size, and size can overcome skill, but youre not giving a reason to believe that one is more important than the other
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jan 2024 16:36:49 UTC No. 183569
>>183561
what reason is there to belive that early ufc favored bjj? I hear this all the time but I never know why people think it
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jan 2024 16:55:15 UTC No. 183570
>>183562
>>183569
Not him but the Gracie’s were extremely selective about how they picked as opponents so that they could almost guarantee their own victory and by extension promote their school. Even Chael Sonnen wasn’t informed it was a real fight until he got there, originally being told that it was an exihibition style match leaving him less prepared for when he got in the ring.
I don’t think bjj on the whole is a bad martial art (though there are plenty of fair criticisms) but the Gracie’s themselves are extremely shady
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jan 2024 17:00:33 UTC No. 183572
>>183570
>Chael Sonnen
You mean Ken Shamrock?
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jan 2024 17:19:46 UTC No. 183574
>>183569
Hand selected fighters
Didn't let them use their equipment (royce was allowed his gi but Ken wasn't allowed his wrestling shoes)
John Mccarthy was a gracie academy student and chosen to be a referee, there was no objective 3rd party
Made up the rules as they went along, on paper it was only submission and KO stoppages, the first fight got stopped because..why exactly? Nobody was knocked out or submitted
Bill Wallace who was there that night suggested its because they saw the sumo wrestler tank a punch and kick to the face, lose a tooth and shrug it off like nothing and they weren't convinced royce could beat him so they stopped the fight
The cage itself, they picked people used to fighting in ropes or just open mats but the gracies were familiar with gym fights and won many of those by tackling people into the wall, that can't be done with ropes so they devised putting up a physical barrier. The cage was invented just for them to utilize
Every competitor from that night was tampered with in ways like that
They did everything they could to stack the deck
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jan 2024 17:43:23 UTC No. 183577
>>183574
>Didn't let them use their equipment
What the fuck are you talking about? One guy even came in with a boxing glove.
>the sumo wrestler tank a punch and kick to the face
He didn't tank jack shit, he was completely fucked.
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jan 2024 18:13:40 UTC No. 183579
>>183304
And calf kicks are very painful for people who aren't used to getting kicked, nor do they require a great amount of flexibility.
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jan 2024 20:58:58 UTC No. 183598
>>183579
Neither of you have ever kicked anyone in a street fight. Sit down.
I actually have done leg kicks instinctively in fights followed up by 1-2. It doesn't really do much. You're better off doing a front Duke nukem kick and running or hoping that puts them off
Charles veitch has a compilation of doing that irl to great effect in self defence situations
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jan 2024 21:19:34 UTC No. 183602
>>183598
>sit down
Stop trying so hard lol
>actually I do it and it doesn’t work because…IT JUST DOESNT DO ANYTHING OK
Ok buddy, if your first punch doesn’t immediately knock someone out do you think that doesn’t work either? Stop being retarded
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jan 2024 22:04:28 UTC No. 183610
>>183577
yeah they allowed a boxing glove knowing it would hamper his performance and take away his ability to grab
they didn't allow wrestling shoes because that would be beneficial
so kens not allowed to wear his shoes, but royce is allowed to use his lapels to do chokes
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jan 2024 22:10:55 UTC No. 183611
>>183610
Shamrock is a fucking crybaby bitch, just like you.
OP's claim has been so thoroughly refuted that the only thing left for you to cling to is a conspiracy theory.
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jan 2024 22:47:58 UTC No. 183617
>>183611
Let me know when you get your blue belt
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Jan 2024 23:05:09 UTC No. 183619
>>183567
I really don’t think one is more important than the other. They’re both important.
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jan 2024 02:36:16 UTC No. 183645
>>183602
If I punch someone in the jaw and they haven't been knocked out I'm in deep shit
I know your little manlet kick training cope probably doesn't understand what it's like to be a full grown man and having punch power
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jan 2024 03:32:16 UTC No. 183652
>>183645
>punches directly to the chin = kicks to the calf
>the only punches you can throw are full power knock out shots, Jabs and set up combos don’t exist
>if your first hit doesn’t knock them out you’re done for just give up
You sound like a complete retard who doesn’t actually know how to fight
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jan 2024 03:57:29 UTC No. 183657
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Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jan 2024 04:29:05 UTC No. 183661
>>183657
Meds
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jan 2024 05:02:10 UTC No. 183662
>>183652
You've never had a fight irl if you think jabbing works on the street KEK
it's 1-2 and it's over
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jan 2024 05:15:07 UTC No. 183664
>>183662
>jabbing doesn’t work
>all ya need is a good 1-2
What kind of punch is the “1” in that “1-2”, LARPer anon?
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jan 2024 06:27:34 UTC No. 183667
>>183664
I like a back fist personally
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jan 2024 14:24:57 UTC No. 183693
>>183280
>implying that evidence means shit
Wish you BJJ faggots would knock it off with this rigged 1v1 ruled sport bullshit myth. So much you're not allowed to do in these matches that using this as an example of grappling superiority is super retarded.
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jan 2024 14:50:17 UTC No. 183700
>>183693
>rigged because it’s 1v1
You want to fight 3 bjj guys at once instead? You realize the “muh real fights aren’t 1v1” shit goes both ways, right?
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jan 2024 16:06:20 UTC No. 183707
>>183700
>confidently retarded
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jan 2024 18:39:49 UTC No. 183724
When will people stop posting this retarded bait thread? When will people stop falling for it? The world may never know.
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jan 2024 18:52:35 UTC No. 183725
>>183724
There's like 20 of this exact same thread up right now.
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jan 2024 18:53:29 UTC No. 183726
>>183724
>When will people stop posting this retarded bait thread? When will people stop falling for it?
Where do you think you are? Bait is what people come to 4chan for.
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Jan 2024 18:54:11 UTC No. 183727
>>183270
Fedor, Tyson are below 6'2
Sakuraba was below 6'2 and 200 lbs
This sounds to me like lanklet cope
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jan 2024 00:49:38 UTC No. 183786
>>183664
It isn't your pussy pillow fisted "jab"
Dumb nerd
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jan 2024 03:04:04 UTC No. 183794
>>183786
What is it then?
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jan 2024 07:31:48 UTC No. 183803
>>183794
It's a 1-2
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jan 2024 10:30:40 UTC No. 183819
>>183662
1-2 has barely any knockout power dumbass nofighter
if you want to knock out someone you do a fucking hook or uppercut
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jan 2024 14:27:05 UTC No. 183830
>>183803
What is the 1 in the 1-2, retard, what kind of punch is it? Do you not know what a 1-2 combination is?
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Jan 2024 22:02:43 UTC No. 183858
>>183414
>shoots guy bigger than him
>goes to prison and gets fucked by even bigger jamals for the rest of his life
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jan 2024 00:35:13 UTC No. 183872
>>183192
no. Gordon ryan dominated hafthor who is 80 kg heavier than he is
Eddie hall couldnt take a leg kick from a 9 year old who trained.
all the early judokas who went around the world beating up (in glorified street fights) larger europeans and americans to promote judo were manlets. Tomita and Maeda were both manlets who made a point to show that skill can beat athleticism and size by wrestling with college footballers.
people think that size means everything just because weight classes exists. Its the other way around. Weight classes only exists with the assumption that theres equal skill. Plenty of competitions do open weight categories to compete in.
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jan 2024 12:17:29 UTC No. 183899
>>183819
clueless idiot LMAO
>>183830
okay nerd. Try actually fighting instead of being a geek. How do i know you weigh as much as a small woman
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jan 2024 12:21:24 UTC No. 183900
>>183872
>Gordon ryan dominated hafthor who is 80 kg heavier than he is
you are literally more delusional than TMA nerds if you think that is the case
that humble gentle giant was going so easy on him. if he wanted to, he would just grab him and pull in two opposite directions and snap his shit up. Much like thor and mcgregor.
They were playfighting. IRL that giant would just headbutt him from mount or gouge his eyes through his asshole. Technique works in a controlled environment where you can abuse sports rules. Anything goes and Gordon is getting his shit pushed in.
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jan 2024 14:00:57 UTC No. 183908
>>183900
Real life isn’t game of thrones
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jan 2024 14:01:59 UTC No. 183909
>>183899
Just answer the question. What is the first punch in a 1-2 combo called?
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jan 2024 14:16:08 UTC No. 183910
>>183909
A downercut
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jan 2024 15:55:31 UTC No. 183914
>>183192
That's not a man. That's an albino silverback gorilla.
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jan 2024 16:47:15 UTC No. 183920
>>183900
ADCC heavyweight literally has no weight limits. Why hasnt strongmen competitors come and taken over the whole field?
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:45:35 UTC No. 183926
>>183908
Real life isn't bjj mat humping either
>>183920
Strongmen aren't interested in bjj, theyre too busy training for strongman events. They aren't weak manlets who need to spend 10 years to learn bjj to maybe neutralize an average sized intoxicated thug with no fight intelligence, or to """fight""" with rules such as no kicking/stomping head on the ground
Would they lose a bjj mat hugging contest as a white belt? Possibly only to very elite Belts and competitors. Their massive strength and size will make them overpower even trained people in bjj rules
If you take the rules out its a one way ticket to slam/stomp city. Good luck lmao
I mean, Mariusz pudzianowski knocked out a Gracie with one punch. He's small compared to today's strongman competitors.
Reality of Gordon Vs Thor = Thor hammer fists him standing up, Gordon doesnt know where he is... Gordon attempts takedown.. Thor literally lifts him overhead and smashes him on the concrete
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:46:58 UTC No. 183927
>>183909
A "1"
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jan 2024 18:21:18 UTC No. 183930
>>183926
>if they take the rules our its one way ticket to slam/stomp city
lmfao
So youre telling me that Judo with their slams, kickboxing with their strikes, and BJJ with their ground game, all of which has no upper weight limit after heavyweight, all dont have strongmen dominating their fields because of rules and limitations. But if you somehow combine all three of these together to essentially get a streetfight where slams and stomps are allowed, those strongmen would somehow come out on top.
The UFC heavyweight upper limit is 265lbs. if weight mattered most, then like in lower weightclasses you would have the best guys be at a walking walking weight of 280+ lbs, cutting to 260 and ballooning back to 270 just before the fight. But you dont see that. Most of the heavyweight champions are comfortably below the 265 limit at their walking weight
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jan 2024 18:41:21 UTC No. 183932
>>183926
>stomps, kicks, slams
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xyYLw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xyYLw
Legal in Pride and lords of the bloat still didn't become ultimate fighters
>Mariusz pudzianowski
Lost to some literally whos way weaker than him. Nevertheless I'm curious how good would he be if he started mma career at 25 or so.
>Gordon Vs Thor
Thor wins. Gordon is used to fighting in a ruleset where he can literally sit down on the ground. Of course it doesn't mean he doesn't have any takedown ability. He does and he would most likely win against a non fighting powershitter 50 lbs heavier than him but it's not enought against one of the strongest people in the world, especially if he has some boxing experiance.
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jan 2024 18:54:33 UTC No. 183935
>>183932
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xyYL
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xyYL
Sorry, I posted the same twice. I meant to post this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj5BW
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jan 2024 20:49:06 UTC No. 183946
>>183414
That guy could probably take a mag and a half before he goes down.
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Jan 2024 22:30:30 UTC No. 183959
>>183946
thats not how blood loss and shock works
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jan 2024 03:11:21 UTC No. 183989
>>183256
The guy who killed the bodybuilder wasnt a pro either.
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jan 2024 18:52:07 UTC No. 184047
>>183930
UFC isn't a real fight. There's too many rules favouring fake fighting
Why would a strongman want to get in there to be restricted by a ruleset that diesnt play to their advantage
Would a boxer take a fight under bjj rules with a bjj player? No. Would he smash him in a real fight on the pavement? Yes
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jan 2024 18:53:50 UTC No. 184048
>>183989
He was a Russian wrestler or something. Those guys train from child
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jan 2024 18:59:28 UTC No. 184050
>>184047
What rules don’t play to the strongman’s advantage?
>inb4 IT JUST DOESNT OK!!!!!
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jan 2024 19:10:11 UTC No. 184052
>>184047
>Would he smash him in a real fight on the pavement?
Only if the bjj player has zero takedown skills
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jan 2024 19:45:35 UTC No. 184056
>>184052
>Only if the bjj player has zero takedown skills
>Only if
Come on now anon
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jan 2024 22:59:59 UTC No. 184078
>>184050
No headbutts, no stomping, no kicks downed opponent head
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jan 2024 23:53:26 UTC No. 184089
>>184078
All of that except headbutts were allowed in pride. Bloatlords still didn’t win. Vale tudo allowed everything. Bloat lords still didn’t win. Are you done coping yet?
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jan 2024 02:57:52 UTC No. 184093
>>183249
Not even a Judo guy, but you don't need to throw when you can trip.
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jan 2024 03:13:29 UTC No. 184095
>>184089
Why would a strongman who's getting sponsored and paid take part in weird low status underground fighting and risk injury. They don't need to prove anything, they know they can maul anyone irl
>>184093
Trip him all you want. when he grabs you and breaks your spine it'll be funny
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jan 2024 03:24:43 UTC No. 184099
>>184095
>bro they totally beat anyone if the rules allowed them to do X
>what about this promotion that does X?
>well obviously they can’t waste their time and risk getting hurt (even though they’d totally maul everyone)
keep coping
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jan 2024 03:52:25 UTC No. 184103
>>184078
Explain to us how headbutts, stomping,and kicking downed opponents is going to help against someone who has a 10+ years experience gap on you in striking, takedowns, and grappling again?
Why would the more experienced wrestler go on his back when he can chop the fatso's legs and then throw him to get on top.
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jan 2024 04:01:16 UTC No. 184104
>>184095
you do know that there are 240+ lbs heavyweights in judo and that really good 160 lbs judokas have thrown them in group team competitions right? What makes you so confident that an untrained lardass is going to outgrapple someone who can throw trained heavyweights as a lightweight?
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jan 2024 14:09:24 UTC No. 184131
>>184099
>Why weren't pro well paid athletes wasting their time and health in underground fight clubs for the clinically insane????????
Cope more
>>184103
People that big and strong will just throw you off with sheer strength. They can Bench 200kg for reps they will just chuck you off
>>184104
We're not talking about fake fighting m8. We're talking about reality. Hence why even in fake fighting these humble big guys take it easy on the manlets
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jan 2024 16:37:53 UTC No. 184137
>>184048
No he wasnt. He was a amatuer mma fighter with almost no background and he killed the body builder with a kick to the head then stomping him.
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jan 2024 17:44:40 UTC No. 184142
There's a point where no matter how hard you can hit, how well you can toss people, etc., there's a certain level at which it's going to be difficult if not impossible to overcome.
A well-conditioned and trained stylist like the late Nokweed Devy can neutralize a bigger stronger opponent; Jerome le Banner but that's an outlier. There's a reason why we have weight limits because nobody in their right mind should fight a guy 50+ pounds heavier.
Skill can usually beat unskilled. However, Size +Strength + Athleticism in an untrained opponent against a smaller lighter yet skilled fighter is going to be a serious toss-up. And the untrained opponent will have more odds in their favor.
Bob Sapp beat Ernesto Hoost twice. Meanwhile Mirko Cro Cop made Sapp his bitch with his vicious kicks. Hoost defeated Cro Cop 3 times in K-1. It's all a toss up.
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jan 2024 18:15:57 UTC No. 184145
>>184131
>Cope more
In other words
>you make a claim
>have no proof for it
>try to make it unfalsifiable by ignoring all the counterproofs like pride and early ufc
You're b8
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jan 2024 23:17:02 UTC No. 184176
>these humble big judokas take it easy on manlets and lose on purpose to manlets in olympic tier team events
man the delusions people have about fighting when they never trained a day in their lives
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jan 2024 01:53:01 UTC No. 184197
>fight against a trained person it's something common to happen
>fight against a bodybuilder it's something common to happen
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jan 2024 14:06:36 UTC No. 184273
If you ever find yourself facing off with a Greek weightlifter, you can use one of two moves:
>throw soap at him and he will run away
>distract him with a small boy
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jan 2024 14:07:40 UTC No. 184274
You guys keep making these arguments, but you never actually post any proof.
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jan 2024 19:44:26 UTC No. 184308
>>184142
One of the only redpilled responses itt
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jan 2024 19:46:11 UTC No. 184309
>>184291
>Leaves his wife and child behind
pussy
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jan 2024 20:01:20 UTC No. 184320
>>184131
Why are you so insecure? You have no reason to care? You're a tall big guy. Just take the W then.
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jan 2024 20:08:15 UTC No. 184322
>>183192
No one is going to try to fight a big guy, but if someone had to they would do whatever they could. No one who cares is going to just allow some dude to beat their ass if they can help it. That dude can probably barely fucking move. I would just avoid him.
The best thing to do for an unarmed smaller dude would be to avoid fighting this guy or circle around him and avoid his strikes and him trying to grab. Tire the guy out then attack. Attack the legs and retreat and continue dodging. Keep doing that until he's gassed. Hopefully he'll tire out and the guy can get away or keep moving in for attacks and quickly retreating. He'll probably be uncoordinated and off balance when gassed and at some point you can push him over with momentum. Then just stomp and kick the shit out of his head and run away.
Anonymous at Sat, 27 Jan 2024 21:05:36 UTC No. 184330
>>183192
>”I’m so strong bro I’d totally wreck you in a fight with no rules”
>the way he fights https://youtu.be/UL1GtSnvkGQ?featur
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jan 2024 04:20:34 UTC No. 184382
>>184320
My dude, I'm no 6'5 strongman. I'm just realistic. Hence why I made a thread to discuss the reality of fighting large heavy + athletic guys
Anonymous at Sun, 28 Jan 2024 18:29:18 UTC No. 184476
>>184382
>I'm just realistic
How is believing a theory and not proving it realistic?
Anonymous at Tue, 30 Jan 2024 19:39:09 UTC No. 184799
>>183192
i will land 1 leg kick leading into a cross and he will have his eyes watering and his leg is going to be fucked.
people that havent trained dont understand its actually easier to fight bigger guys, feints work so well on them, my favorite is a feint right hook then instantly circle them and take the back, he may fall backwards but hes going to sleep in 8 seconds.
you talk so scared of these big guys but unless theyre mma fighters theyre just big guys with nothing behind them, a punch would probably throw them off balance.