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Anonymous No. 187227

How is it possible to be a judo black belt and suck at takedowns as much as Nogueira?

Anonymous No. 187250

>>187227
Because judo only works in clinch situations against the cage

Anonymous No. 187255

>>187227
Ever notice how much noise judofags make despite mediocre to non-existent results?

To be fair gloves fuck up a lot of grappling

Anonymous No. 187258

>>187250
Not always, Fedor for instance would throw a big punch and follow it with a leg sweep. It is hard to force techniques though. When I spar I don't go for throws much but when someone gets to close it's fairly simple. Sweeps can be used to set up other techniques or strikes.
For some people it's enough just to build a better base instead of focusing on using judo offensively. It's emphasis on top position is well suited for MMA imo.

Anonymous No. 187261

>>187255
>To be fair gloves fuck up a lot of grappling
I don't think so. MMA gloves are made not to impair grappling. No gi is a bigger problem.

Anonymous No. 187262

No one really stands upright enough to get taken advantage of. On the other side, you really have to hit the full 180 upending throws in MMA. See Karo Parysian/Manny Gamburian. Most of their throws were all or nothing, and no one's really been doing "real" Judo in MMA since.

Anonymous No. 187285

>>187258
>Fedor
Who gives a fuck, dude only fought cans.

Anonymous No. 187452

>>187285
Lmao casual

Anonymous No. 187508

>>187285
Lol wut?

Anonymous No. 187546

>>187227
You don't have to be good at throws to be good at judo. There are ground specialists even in judo.

Anonymous No. 187587

>>187258
Second this.
Footsweeps are helping in clicking to unbalance your opponent and to follow up with strikes or transition to a single leg.
If I try big judo throws, they are hard to get and I often get countered.

Anonymous No. 187591

>>187285
He beat multiple ufc champs

Anonymous No. 187592

>>187591
and is a linear ufc champ

Anonymous No. 187712

>>187285
Were Nogueira, Cro Cop, Randleman, Sylvia, Alrovski, Mir and Rampage cans? Shitting on legends like Fedor is a very stupid case of contrarianism.