🧵 Would Judo or MMA be for a fat fuck?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 May 2024 06:47:07 UTC No. 198396
I want to do some sort of martial art but there are only judo places and an MMA place nearby, the MMA place focuses on BJJ, kickboxing and catch wrestling, they are part of the Zé Radiola team and some jap jiu jitsu org so I don't think it's a mcdojo at least, no clue how to check if a judo place is a mcdojo or not tho.
I'm mainly worried about tearing an acl due to my fatness.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 May 2024 06:47:45 UTC No. 198397
>>198396
*be better
Anonymous at Tue, 21 May 2024 08:33:17 UTC No. 198407
>>198396
Judo is the most high impact sport with the least control of the opponent's landing etc.
Make of that what you will.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 May 2024 08:46:08 UTC No. 198408
>>198407
Okay, but does any of that impact your knees worse then someone stomping you in the kneecap?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 May 2024 08:57:13 UTC No. 198410
>>198408
Who's stomping you in the kneecap? No one should be doing that in sparring.
Every contact sport has risks of freak accidents. I've seen knee injuries in boxing ...
Personally as someone who's tried all the major combat sports, I've felt the striking ones are WAY easier on the body. If you spar, don't go too hard and you'll be okay. Make sure people know you're a hobbyist and keep the intensity light.
Being a fat fuck is dangerous in judo. Especially if you don't know how to fall or move your body etc.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 May 2024 09:09:37 UTC No. 198411
>>198396
If you want to stay healthy then don't do either. If you just want to get a hobby, pick whichever one is cheaper or more convenient. If you want to do it as a sport and compete, pick whichever sport you like more. If you want to do it to learn self defense, do MMA.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 May 2024 09:11:59 UTC No. 198412
>>198411
Either will be 100% healthier than staying a fat fuck or skinnyfat couch monkey
Anonymous at Tue, 21 May 2024 09:17:02 UTC No. 198413
>>198412
If you want to lose weight then do some jogging. You will fuck your body up with combat sports. They're fun but there's nothing healthy about them.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 May 2024 09:42:02 UTC No. 198414
>>198413
I lift weights and do archery, I wanted to learn some unarmed combat because it good to be physically capable of violence if that makes sense? Not neccesarily to get healthier.
For the weight, I just have to figure out some way to stop shoving food down my throat.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 May 2024 09:44:01 UTC No. 198415
>>198413
This anon is right. Ever since I started getting back into combat sports I've been injured one way or another all the time. As soon as one shoulder heals the other one gets fucked up. I also lift and stretch for years, god knows how bad it would be without that
>>198414
If you want to be safe do boxing or kickboxing and spar light/moderate contact
Anonymous at Tue, 21 May 2024 09:44:56 UTC No. 198416
>>198410
I guess I should just go with the MMA gym then. Wouldn't BBJ literally be the worst as a fat guy tho? Cause of all the joint locks and stuff? Plus I just feel it's kinda rude to get into a sport where you rub up on each other when I'm a hairy, sweaty fat guy.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 May 2024 09:47:14 UTC No. 198417
>>198415
The problem is there are no boxing/kickboxing places near me that do that exclusively, it's literally only like 4 judo dojos and the one MMA gym.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 May 2024 10:39:20 UTC No. 198420
>>198416
There's other fat people in bjj and MMA
>>198417
Do MMA then. Usually there's classes you can pick and choose which to attend. Try it you may hate it ...
Anonymous at Tue, 21 May 2024 12:24:09 UTC No. 198428
>>198427
I wanted to do horseback archery too but they ain't got no horses big enough to handle my fat ass.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 May 2024 18:50:22 UTC No. 198443
>>198396
>the MMA place focuses on BJJ, kickboxing and catch wrestling, they are part of the Zé Radiola team and some jap jiu jitsu org so I don't think it's a mcdojo at
I have no clue what Zé Radiola is but if they do catch wrestling then they must be based.
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 13:15:35 UTC No. 198586
>>198414
>>198413
You can practice an awful lot of martial arts skills solo. Obviously not as good as partnered practice. Wouldn't even call it martial arts at that point, more like 'martial fitness'
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 21:20:58 UTC No. 198646
>>198586
Like boxercise? Even if it's mostly dumb bullshit it should at least teach you how to throw a proper punch right?
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 21:24:40 UTC No. 198647
>>198428
If you're really that fat you should be doing exercises in a pool and getting your diet in check.
>>>/fit//fat/
>>>/fit/70348194
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 22:44:33 UTC No. 198656
>>198646
I mean theres that but I meant more like, shadow boxing, bag work, solo drills, hojo undo. Boxercise is more like an aerobics class for chubby women that's based on boxing, like literally, I doubt you would find a class with any dudes, and its rare. Theres a lot of training you can do solo, both coordination & conditioning, but may require investing in some equipment.
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 22:58:00 UTC No. 198658
>>198396
What's your current weight and height
Anonymous at Thu, 23 May 2024 23:08:56 UTC No. 198659
>>198647
>>198658
I'm 6' 330lbs so really fat but I'm not a cripple or anything, nearby horse places just don't have any big draft horses that could carry my fat ass.
Anonymous at Fri, 24 May 2024 22:42:59 UTC No. 198741
>>198730
You're on 4chan. There is a 95% chance you're just as big & shorter. He already pointed out he was overweight. You're just being a downy captain obvious.
Anonymous at Sat, 25 May 2024 00:25:24 UTC No. 198746
>>198659
you should just start. go and do it, don't worry about being fat. the first classes are going to be tiring and you'll have to take it slowly, but your body will adapt in time. fighting is very cardio intensive. you're likely going to lose a lot of weight. i'm a skinnyfat and i lost 33 pounds the year I started doing judo.
Anonymous at Thu, 30 May 2024 06:47:21 UTC No. 199341
>>199262
head it's not good for ya knees
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Jun 2024 12:05:14 UTC No. 200299
What should a fat guy do to prepare for starting MMA next year? I've been lifting for strength and playing basketball for cardio, a guy I know who did a little MMA said I should pick a wall and start hitting it until my knuckles bleed to harden my fists and start developing pain tolerance.
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Jun 2024 13:31:29 UTC No. 200308
>>198416
>Wouldn't joint locks be worse
Just tap sooner dummy
>Oh but I'm fat
If you actually get good at a martial art you learn to be efficient because it's a martial art
Upping your work rate is all about your style
If you're fat and lazy now there's nothing stopping you from being fat and lazy on the mat
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Jun 2024 13:36:04 UTC No. 200310
>>200299
That's fucking dumb
You should only condition if you want to do it for money
Sparring ideally doesn't leave people with grievous pain and injury because that is not an effective way to train
Power is useless in MMA if you lack flexibility and poor form
Good flexibility prevents injury and improves mobility and both are useful in martial arts as well as not ruining your normal lifestyle
You should learn how to fall, and a good way to start is judo breakfalls or just learning how to roll forwards or backwards while preventing your head from impacting the ground, it also has the bonus of conditioning your resistance to nausea, as I know alot of people who learn to forward roll for the first time in the gym and need to step out due to severe nausea from not being upright or whatever
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Jun 2024 14:03:16 UTC No. 200315
>>200310
Ideally I want to compete locally.
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Jun 2024 14:05:54 UTC No. 200316
>>200299
>What should a fat guy do to prepare for starting MMA next year?
Start MMA now.
>but I'm fat
You'll be less fat after you start training.
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Jun 2024 14:54:47 UTC No. 200329
>>200316
This anon gets it, the motions are more important
In general I think everyone should understand dead lifts though
Healthy deadlifts establish
>Good form
>Good base
>Full range of motion
>Safe movement
>Hip stability
Hips are everything
>>200315
You can condition if you want, you'll never touch a freak from Thailand who's been training since they were a child or whatever but honestly I would only do it if your coach is performance minded/isn't suss/has clout/ can supervise you
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Jun 2024 15:49:22 UTC No. 200336
>>200329
I did say local competition. I feel like I need a minimum level of stamina to get anything out of the lessons don't I? Otherwise I'd just spend all my time gasping for air after the warm ups.
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Jun 2024 20:21:58 UTC No. 200392
>>200336
Let's say there's a fatfuck who's equally as fat as you and you fight him 2 years from now.
>he starts MMA right now
>you start MMA a year later
>fight day comes
>conditioning = equal
>you = 1 year of MMA
>opponent = 2 years of MMA
Now do the math.
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Jun 2024 21:12:25 UTC No. 200406
>>200336
>I feel like I need a minimum level of stamina to get anything out of the lessons don't I?
No.
Anonymous at Thu, 6 Jun 2024 21:18:33 UTC No. 200407
>>200336
Warmups are going to warm you up
Good technique is all about efficiency
Being physically fit is all about making up for your technical deficiencies with physical power
Since it's a martial art where the technique shines is where you're expected to
>In grappling
Maintain energy and work rate, preferably with low-effort techniques
>In striking
Generate power and stay defensive with good mental conditioning and good form
As a protip UFC people mostly demonstrate exceptionally poor form and technique
If you want a recent example of technique beating athleticism watch Strickland beat Israel adesanya
Adesanya frequently changes from and does a bunch of mixups but Strickland maintained his hands up and did real basic kickboxing to beat Israel
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 12:53:15 UTC No. 206097
>>198414
>i lift weights
lol
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Aug 2024 13:37:50 UTC No. 206105
>>198396
OP
you're gonna be met with dumbass questions and opinions if you walk into a marital arts studio and say you exercise and have other martial art hobbies like archery.
you'll be met with dumbass shit like>>200310
>>206097
and
>"how do you think archery is gonna help you at BJJ?"
>i dont
>"oh then why do you do it"
the average person in a martial arts studio is sub iq and retarded as fuck.