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🧵 /MTB/ Mountain Bike General

Anonymous No. 198870

You're gonna die You're gonna rag doll Edition
https://youtu.be/ewTo_rh_dTI?si=Us_6cvclqBHmj05I

FAQ on buying a bike that nobody reads anyway:
> What good bike can I get for under $500?
a stolen bike. Possibly a newer used entry level hardtail but don't expect it to survive rock gardens, jumps, or drops. Or an older mtb which won't be as good as newer ones and will still have a front derailleur, but it'll be good enough.
> What good bike can I get for under $1000
Good used hardtail, new entry level hardtail
> What good bike can I get for under $2000?
New Hardtail, decent used full suspension
> What good bike can I get for under $3000?
https://www.yt-industries.com/fr/produits/velos/capra/uncaged-10-al/602/capra-mx-uncaged-10/
Used full suspension, decent entry level full suspension but prepared to put more money into it.
> What are the excellent value brands?
Marin, Commencal, Canyon, Polygon, YT, Propain, Kona, and many more. Sometimes the expensive brands have an excellent alue bike
>> What are the differences between an XC, Trail, Enduro, and Downhill bikes?
XC bikes are for going up fast, go down not as fast. Trail bikes are for going up and down. Enduro bikes are for going down fast, and slower up. Downhill bikes are for going down really fast, needs a ski lift, truck, or the rider pushing it to go up.
Link to previous thread: >>193044

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Anonymous No. 198871

>>198870
God bless redbull for sponsoring shit like this. Redbull should be sole official international entity responsible for world cup mountain biking (except XC which falls to UCI) and mountain biking shit in general. Even the IMBA should be put down like down like a stray shitbull, Redbull should handle offical trail guidelines. None of that manicured 11 ft wide "singletracks" or dumbed down accessible for all shit, just straight up gnar.
They've done more for the sport than the UCI

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Anonymous No. 198880

>>198871
does redbull give me wings?

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Anonymous No. 198917

>>198880
Yes(figuratively)

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Anonymous No. 198945

Polygon Xtrada 6
Norco Storm 2
Marin Bobcat Trail 3

I came across 3 bikes I'm considering. Which of these 3 would you take?

Anonymous No. 198949

>>198945
I like the marin, but I am a weirdo.

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 198953

>Fitness and technical skills are finally coming back after my winter hibernation
How was you ride this weekend, anons?

>>198945
The polygon looks to be the best value for the money. If you can save up some extra money, the xtrada 7 has an air fork, which will let you set it up properly for your weight. With a coil fork you're at the mercy of whatever spring comes in it, or you'll have to spend extra money on a different coil anyways.

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Anonymous No. 198954

>Fitness and technical skills are finally coming back after my winter hibernation
How was your ride this weekend, anons?

>>198945
The polygon looks to be the best value for the money. If you can save up some extra money, the xtrada 7 has an air fork, which will let you set it up properly for your weight. With a coil fork you're at the mercy of whatever spring comes in it, or you'll have to spend extra money on a different coil anyways.

Anonymous No. 198970

>>198945
>polygon or marin,
Norco isn't worth upgrading because of its geometry.

>>198954
weekend ride was good, Getting faster again as i am riding more and more high speed trails.
Serviced my fork, replaced the oil 14cst @40c Motorex 2.5wt with some Fox Red 10wt which is 47cst @40c.
I was playing with the damper while I had it out of the fork and found out that only the last 3 clicks of LSC actually do anything the rest are basically wide open.

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Anonymous No. 199040

>>198949
What do you think about the Marin San Quentin 3? I've been looking at one of those new or I can get a used Nukeproof scout.
>>198954
My ride was good. I'm not as good at climbing as I used to be. I'm not sure why as I run like 6-9 miles a week.

Anonymous No. 199063

>>198954
getting back on the bike after a 5 month pause still was shit on the same climb but managed to shave off about 5 to 10 minutes since the long break although the goal is to go from 30 to 15 minutes also sold my old shitty habit and I´ll probably buy a cheap gravel so i can commute and work on my fitness

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Anonymous No. 199068

>>198917
How he only got a concussion from that crash is unreasonable

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Anonymous No. 199089

pumping is fun
even though my technique is probably shit

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Anonymous No. 199102

>>198970
>replaced the oil 14cst @40c Motorex 2.5wt with some Fox Red 10wt which is 47cst @40c.
Do you feel much more damping force from switching to 47 cst from 14cst? Quite a big jump.

Anonymous No. 199117

>>199102
It's probably around the 1.25-1.4x as much damping force. It all depends on the damper type how much of an affect you will see, but you will see an increase across the board. I run 5-6 clicks of rebound now compared to 7 before. I noticed after the fluid change the damper bound less at top and bottom of the stroke. Idk what's causing this as it should be work in already. I have some Motorex 15wt racing fork oil which is 67cst @ 40c but I am pretty happy the way it is now. Also bleeding the fork damper is a massive pain.

Anonymous No. 199126

I have a bomber CR shock (apparently structurally identical to a Fox vanilla CR) and I’ve had LSC on max damping for years and sometimes want even more, but rebound is middle of the range and I don’t want to lose the exact rebound damping I have. What do you suggest? I’m not opening the damper alone so it would be something like a viscosity change and rebuild at a shop, or a complete tuning service from like avalanche (who says the bomber CR is one of the simplest shocks for them to tune)

Anonymous No. 199130

>>199089
I am practicing wheelies. Then it's on to either manuals or bunnyhops.
>>199040
The SQ3 seems pretty solid for some enduro/dh hardtailling. Round a decade ago I used to do something similar with an ns surge and it was fun.
>fitness
hmm maybe just more cycling and hill climbing? Your cardio should be fine if you run that much, so maybe you need more power.

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Anonymous No. 199153

>>199130
>Then it's on to either manuals or bunnyhops.
Learn bunnyhops asap. Definitely one of the most important skills to have if you want to go fast, and the movement translates well into doing large jumps and trials moves for going up tall rocks/features. If you can hop at least as high as your axle you will be unstoppable.

T. can bunnyhop bretty high, but still can't wheelie or manual well

Anonymous No. 199160

>>198880
Holy shit, nortubeldev from /agdg/?
You ride bro?

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Anonymous No. 199186

>>199153
Yeah it's on the list of important things to finally learn. Been a while since I have been riding and spooked myself today, which was good. Local trails are just super eroded and I have a history of crashing on steep dry hardpack with big ruts. Did use the whoolie techniques for hoping square curbs which is nice. Mostly trying to get better at bunnyhops and jumps since I wasn't the cool kid doing that in elementary school.

Anonymous No. 199197

>>199040
Don't get it if you plan to upgrade anything. It's got a fuckin weird rear hub (141mm QR) which you'll never find a replacement for or fot a normal 12s drivetrain to. Try for the SQ2 at least.

That said. If you just want it as a sweet bike thats basic as and you don't plan on doing anything major to, go for it

Anonymous No. 199214

>>199068
Concussion can fuck you up.

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Anonymous No. 199425

>>198954
Unfortunately couldnt get any rides in, raining season is starting and its very much making itself know starting off with a typhoon. Trails went from bone dry to pure sludge in 2 days.
And here I was foolish to think the rainy season might tone down the heat a bit. Oh well, hopefully this weekend ill get one in.

Anonymous No. 199435

>>199425
>Trails went from bone dry to pure sludge in 2 days.
That sucks. My favorite riding is in slightly damp or just not "bone dry" which it is right now, and will be for 3 months.
Flying down the trails but some close calls with how dry it is.

Anonymous No. 199488

I feel like I'm figuring out some technique for punchy climbs. I used to pull with my arms to get over rocks which is probably why my wrists are fucked now. But now I'm like feeling it all thru my feet, like I'm pushing with my feet and feeling the suspension bounce and I'm working with the bike. On my Wednesday ride I was able to lift the front wheel off the ground and place it over and around rocks which was amazing for me, I've never had that control climbing.

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Anonymous No. 199541

The top section of the hardline track is just wow. Thats a track you NEED a DH bike to go down, forget about even using a long travel enduro bike, of you want to keep the speed, it wont be enough
>>199488
I just push it unless its short.
>born to go downhill, forced to go uphill

Anonymous No. 199542

>>199488
I like to build momentum and take the obvious line I can that's the smoothest, or most grippy. I find what gear you are in can really make the difference, and I prefer to stay in the saddle to keep a little better traction.
I find it quite fun clearing a section uphill, but I am oldschool.

Anonymous No. 199614

>>199542
>I find what gear you are in can really make the difference
I try to keep it in a higher gear to keep speed and not lose traction from too much torque
> prefer to stay in the saddle to keep a little better traction.
I'm different, I stand when it gets hard because then I can distribute my weight easier

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Anonymous No. 199668

You're not gonna die you're not gonna ragdoll this year...

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Anonymous No. 199685

Great day of riding fellas. I always feel like I got better after a day of riding at Santa Cruz

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Anonymous No. 199686

>>199668
Man, the lip on that thing looked so jank. I'm surprised people actually ended up sending it at all
>>199685
>Rideposting
Based. Riding in general makes me feel better after rotting away in front of a screen for several days. Unfortunately I don't think I'll be able to ride this weekend, unless I miraculously wake up without a hangover tomorrow. Perhaps I'll sneak out during the week for some empty trails

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Anonymous No. 199694

>>199686
I haven't ridden any of my drop bar bikes in weeks. MTB has just been perfect recently, I just keep getting invited to some great rides.

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Anonymous No. 199714

>>199694
Your loss

Anonymous No. 199731

>>199714
I'm getting back on it on wednesday. It's going to be hot and I'd rather be on a fast drop bar bike than do slow climbs on the mtb in the heat

Anonymous No. 199895

How often do you need to service hubs?

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>>199895
Take the wheel off the bike, spin the axel, spin the freehub with the axel in place, and take the axel out and feel the bearings by hand, if the bearings don't feel smooth. Like a notchy or rough feeling you need to service them. Walmart teir bikes will always have brought feeling bearings
It Could be 2 years, it could be 3 months hubs don't have time intervals

Anonymous No. 199922

>>199895
when they feel bad. With old shimano/cup and cone ones I just service them, and ride away. With cartridge I remove seal, degrease, regrease, and place seal.
Then when those get bad enough I get new bearings.

Anonymous No. 200142

I need to do a lower service on my modern Marzocchi Bomber Z1 fork tomorrow. Reddit tells me the Z1 does not come with foam rings (or maybe it was the Z2?). If there are not 36mm foam rings in my Z1, should I slice my spare 35mm foam rings to fit?

Anonymous No. 200144

>>200142
just find some 36mm foam rings. They're all over amazon. That's where I've bought 34, 35, and 38mm foam rings

Anonymous No. 200145

>>200144
Yeah but will they be here in 17 hours though, the Z1 might even have rings and reddit just lied, idk. I just heard of the sliced foam ring trick and wondered if it was acceptable

Anonymous No. 200146

>>200145
Can't you just judge the condition and decide then?
Or are you going on a trip asap and this is your only bike

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Anonymous No. 200296

>A month has gone by and knee pain isn't gone
Its over. The ligament will never recover. Is it better to sell the bike complete or by pieces?

Anonymous No. 200347

>>200296
Just send it to me, I'll sort it.

Anonymous No. 200391

>>200296
You doing PT?

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Anonymous No. 200424

>>200347
Gib address
>>200391
Last year to get a session for the other knee I had to wait more than a month to get one. I just rode knowing the next day I wouldn't be able to flex the knee at all. It took like 3 months to finally not get pain the next day. Tried to do squats the last 2 days but the pain was noticeable this morning

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Anonymous No. 200702

Rode the hardtail today at a small park with 2 good trails, but the loops are short and really fun with an easy climb. Nothing difficult, but very fun. Man I love blues, not as thrilling as the stuff I hit last weekend in Santa Cruz >>199685, but just pure fun with an easy climb.
The soil is really dry and cracked. I should switch out the Kryptotals for Wicked Wills for this terrain, I don't need tall knobs.

Anonymous No. 200707

>>200702
Yeah it's fast and dry out here too. I have to take it easy on the front brake in this terrain.

Anonymous No. 201013

>>200707
I rode with the Wicked Wills on similar terrain and they're gripping fine but my braking distance increased, I don't know if this will break my ass next time I'm at Lime Ridge.

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Anonymous No. 201018

I have damaged myself again lads.

>Decide to enjoy the local Kings Birthday public holiday in the way that he would have intended me to, by riding gnar
>huck4kingchuck.jpg
>Get day pass for the shuttle bus
>Start the first downhill, feeling amazing, everything is just clicking
>Making all the doubles and gaps that I usually take a few runs to warm up to
>Too fast in hindsight
>Way too fast
>Boost and overshoot the landing for a jump
>Badly
>Landed on the upramp of the next jump
>Biggest compression I've ever had
>Front foot basically toe poked my own shin when I landed because the ankle was hopeless to stop the amount of force
>Flag the bus down, shuttle driver keks at me hobbling around not even 300m down the trail, drives me back down to the trailhead
>Somehow drive myself back to town
>Perform the world's worst reverse parallel park with a busted ankle operating the clutch, fuck knows how I didn't hit the other cars
>Limp into the emergency room again, got the same nurse as I had last time
>Groundhog day
>Somehow didn't obliterate the titanium hardware that was installed in the bones in February
>Two weeks off work letting the ligaments and tendons heal up
>Moonboot for a week

Such is life. How was your weekend anons?

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Anonymous No. 201035

>>201018
Damn son you need to chill, gotta not let the adrenaline make you skip the warmup. At least it's only 2 weeks.
I crashed a couple times this year and decided no more. My body can't sustain it, so I've been more careful.

This weekend I attempted and failed to bleed my brakes. I must have gotten air in the system and made it worse. Hopefully tonight I can try again and do better.

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Anonymous No. 201039

>>201018
2 weeks off the bike aswell?
Ligaments/tendons take much more time to heal. Mine haven't after a month. Prolly just skill issue but I don't like doing jumps trails like that. Too much send and you endup right at the compression like you did. At least on more natural trails speed is natural and jumps are safer even when oversending.
>>201035
>This weekend I attempted and failed to bleed my brakes. I must have gotten air in the system and made it worse. Hopefully tonight I can try again and do better.
>shimano brakes
>pink oil
Nigga, just sell the oil and buy >picrel. Easier and more effective bleeding due to lower viscosity, better performance( no Wandering bite point) due to same reason.

Anonymous No. 201082

>>200144
>>200146
It turns out reddit was just lying, I should’ve suspected it from the start. Z1 comes with foam rings (but wow I’ve never seen more grease-logged foam in my life)

Anonymous No. 201090

>>201035
Judging by how I was feeling, I think even if I warmed up properly, it still would have been a day where an accident would have occured due to speed. Me and a mate have been talking about how we actually need bigger and faster tracks than our local ones for this exact reason, we're overshooting jumps and landing to flat more often than ever. I wish Maydena could be open year round.
Nice bike by the way
>even the zipties are black.
Bleeding is a dog, one of my least favourite wrench jobs.

>>201039
No one mentioned anything about bikes, so I'll do the same as last time, spin bike>bike up and down the street>jibbing >easy trails>blues>blacks.
I don't think it's a skill issue, if you can jump a tabletop, you can jump a gap, more a speed check issue. I will say my landing was immaculate because I a) didn't get eaten by the rear wheel and have my nuts crushed b) didn't get coathangered by the bars, so the small victory here is knowing that I have subconscious aerial control of my body to land both wheels consecutively and keep centred on the bike.

>I paid $$$ for my brakes, using them to speed check would only diminish their value

I think I'll ease up over winter and ride the hardtail, force myself to ride properly and think about what I'm doing.

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Anonymous No. 201096

We out here

Anonymous No. 201097

>>201096
Is that a trail in the back? Did you ride it? I always see trails like that when driving around and I always wonder if I can ride it

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Anonymous No. 201098

>>201097
Yes there is an extensive singletrack trail system through the foothills my area but it doesn’t get that gnarly (pic related and >>199714 are about it, some smooth jumps though), so I got a gravel bike specifically to spice things up when my aggressive hardtail and enduro bike are just craving way more than the trails can give me. The bike park at the top of the mountain has been delivering the past few years though, there’s a fun loose natural-focused expert area with tons of lines and features, but they seem to be opening late this year

Anonymous No. 201132

>>201018
>landed on the upramp of the next jump
Holy fuck dude, you must've took that shit to the moon. Respect the send.

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Anonymous No. 201142

Went for a ride for the first time in 2 weeks after being sick yesterday, probably one of the longest times I've not ridden in a couple years since my last injury. Felt super weird having to get used to processing information and going fast again as my first couple of runs felt like warp speed, even though I was going significantly slower than usual. After I was back in the groove of things, I felt pretty good but was definitely missing that extra 10% you get from riding frequently. Unfortunately, the weather forecast for the next week or so is rain which I'm not exactly thrilled about considering we had the wettest winter on record and then the hottest may on record which made the local trails turn to dust. I guess its back to riding slop, sketchy roots and washing my bike and riding gear outside after every ride again.
>>201035
Are those tektro brakes? From a quick search they seem to use the same/similar procedure as sram with 2 syringes. I do not envy home mechanics having to squid themselves across their bike to try and bleed their rear brake with 2 syringes coming from someone who has only ever used and bled shimano brakes.
>>201096
I kinda hate that I like the look of this bike, kinda some weird gravel/touring/mtb. Do you use it as a kind of do it all bike?

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Anonymous No. 201143

>>201142
I use it as a light-duty mountain bike basically. I don’t know where quality gravel roads are (that don’t just lead to mtb trails) or I would try some long flat gravel rides, and I did try a short stint of road biking on 32mm tires but it’s just not as fun as dirt so I basically gave up on road. The rack has really not been used at all but I hope to take this bike on multi-night trips with ultralight camping gear so that’s what it’s for

Anonymous No. 201156

>>201143
I've been looking at doing some cycle touring for summer and this is kind of similar to something which I would want along with panniers and a front handlebar bag. I'd probably forgo the front suspension fork and dropper but otherwise that's sort of what I would like to build for riding on roads/fireroads. I've used an old city bike before, but it's just not comfortable for going long distances consistently. Nice bike, Anon.

Anonymous No. 201157

>>201142
Welshman, did you fug the sheep?

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Anonymous No. 201168

>>201132
https://youtu.be/SMzg1KNuezc?si=cTA7IWsobB7OIAXj
At 0:55 of this video (not me), you can see a tree stump on the left of a gapped stepdown. That's the jump what I've oversent.

>Where's my Redbull helmet for sendititude

Anonymous No. 201192

>>201157
Am Norf so I do not have the desire to, just went riding there a couple weeks ago.

Anonymous No. 201205

>>201142
>Are those tektro brakes? From a quick search they seem to use the same/similar procedure as sram with 2 syringes.
Where'd you find that? The instruction manual for my brakes says to do a syringe at the bottom and a tube to a bucket or bag at the top (lol?). I used a funnel at the top since it seems less messy.

I've been putting off trying again because it's so intimidating and I have to clean everything again. But Saturday and Sunday I have nothing else to do so I'm gonna fuck this duck

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Anonymous No. 201240

He's so comically TINY. How does he ride 29s over boulders. I'm 5'9 and 29ers rub my ass when I lean back

Anonymous No. 201241

>>201240
It's one of his hacks.

Anonymous No. 201273

>>198870
Multiool recommendations? I ride DJ so I'm looking for a few different allen wrenches, a crank wrench, and chain breaker. Everything I can find is for BMX and comes with a big and dumb 17 ratchet

Anonymous No. 201274

>>201273
What’s a crank wrench? What’s a 17 ratchet? How have you not seen a crank bros M19? I recommend blackburn wayside

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Anonymous No. 201281

Camille Balanche got replaced. Veronika is now the DHWC qt.

Anonymous No. 201337

>>201273
17 is for the nuts on your nutted axles
I think your pedals take a 6 or 8mm allen, 6 on the 1 bolt sprocket.
Your cranks probably use a similar type if it's a splined 3 piece crank with the big splines.

Anonymous No. 201338

>>200296
Ligaments take a ton of time to heal. When Ive got Achilles tendonitis into both of my legs, it took about 5 months for me to run again, and about 13 for pain to completely disappear.
Supplement collagen and protein, do some light stretching amd you will heal.

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Anonymous No. 201387

>tfw no gf who will wait for me after smoking my ass on the downhill

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Anonymous No. 201427

Saw this rock formation yesterday while I was riding the hardtail and it's indisputable proof that aliens are real. There is no way humans could have built this.
Have you guys encountered proof of extra terrestrials or ancient civilizations while out riding?
>>201281
She's cute, I hope she likes beans who have expensive bikes but suck at riding them

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Anonymous No. 201450

I feel… the need… to buy shit
But all my bikes are pimped out and I don’t even know what I would get. 4-piston gravel brakes? MTB power meter? Coil fork conversion on the hardtail? All 3 of my bikes just kick too much ass the way they are

Anonymous No. 201451

>>201450
As someone with 6 bikes, the urge is almost impossible to fight but there comes a point where you just can't keep making space for more bikes.

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>>201427
Pic related

>>201450
I know this feeling, I too, have shiny kit syndrome.
Last week I saw a Lyrik Ultimate 2.1 online for $600aud, so now that turned into ferreting around all my spares to make the hardtail frame I have a permanent fixture. It's now turned into a $600+$700 adventure for all the shit I didn't have spare (cranks, nice pedals, 2.6 rear tyre, misc bolts and spacers, seatpost, front rim for the spare hub)
Not only is it n+1, but it's become bicycle mitosis lmao.

Anonymous No. 201457

>>201451
I’m not including my road bike which I refuse to upgrade nor my 90’s bike which already has $800 of shit on it, I have them all split between the garage, my bedroom, and my dads garage, no worries about space I’ll downgrade to a full size mattress if I have to

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Anonymous No. 201466

>>201450
You could buy yourself a vacation to a nice place to ride your bikes

Anonymous No. 201473

>>201466
That’d be sick but I can’t buy someone who can plan that all out for me, best I can do is pull up trailforks and point at a dense cluster of trails and hope there’s a cheap hotel nearby

Anonymous No. 201485

>>201466
That's my plan. I got a much higher paying job last year and that was my plan for this year, but my company is slow with giving me vacation time. It's not all bad, there is more riding within 2 hrs of driving than I can do in a lifetime.

Anonymous No. 201536

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tigbxbtw-VE
I need whatever he is having for breakfast.

Anonymous No. 201562

>>201473
There absolutely are people who do that and set up biking adventure trips, you're not wealthmaxxing boomermaxxing enough

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>>201536
>I need whatever he is having for breakfast.
My guess would be an omelette du fromage

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Anonymous No. 201624

She'll be back together this weekend
>11 weeks
The longest I've been off since getting bitten by the MTB bug 2 years ago
Already got a last trip to Rotorua planned

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 201819

My cheapo Da Bomb rear hubs inner housing failed om me and while I was able to get warranty on it, I decided to just sell it and upgrade and get some DT Swiss 350s.
My LBS though offered me for around 100 dollars more to get a pair XM1700 wheelset for a total of $400.
I thought about biting the bullet and getting it but I found out the 350 hub is a straight pull and it uses 28H instead of 32H
Am i being irrational in wanting 32H and J bend?I dont plan on doing any wheel building personally but I think 32H better for durability (me and my bike + gear weigh something like 140kg (270lbs)) and id argue j bends would just be better in the long run in general.

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Anonymous No. 201820

My cheapo Da Bomb rear hubs inner housing failed on me and while I was able to get warranty on it, I decided to just sell it and upgrade and get some DT Swiss 350.
My LBS though offered me for around 100 dollars more to get a pair XM1700 wheelset for a total of $400.
I thought about biting the bullet and getting it but decided not to as I found out the 350 hub used on the wheelset is a straight pull and it uses 28H instead of 32H
Am i being irrational in wanting 32H and j bend spokes? I dont plan on doing any wheel building, but I think 32H is better for durability (me and my bike + gear weigh something like 140kg (270lbs)) and id argue j bends would just be more conveninent in the long run.

Anonymous No. 201821

>>201820
Straight pull is fine, and yeah you should probably insist on 32h if you’re like 230+. It’s carbon rims where spoke count doesn’t really correlate to strength anymore

Anonymous No. 201835

>>201820
recommended System weight max. 120 kg
Found on the dt swiss xm1700 website, and that includes bike, rider, and gear.
So go for a heavier duty wheelset. Unless you are doing lower demand riding, like gravel or easy xc.

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Anonymous No. 201851

>>201820
> like 140kg (270lbs))
Dayum, are you're cranks bent? I've unironically seen this on a poor bike some hambeast was abusing

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Anonymous No. 201853

>>201851
Your*

Anonymous No. 201861

>>201851
No idea about him, but I have been okay with a system weight similar.
Admittedly that's on my 40lb bike and 10lbs of clothes+camelback+tools+water

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Anonymous No. 201869

>>201820
>140kg (270lbs))
I'd avoid the cheap DT swiss wheelsets in general. My hardtail came with some M1900s back in 2016 and the pawls in the rear hub shredded in about a season and a half of riding. There were also some pretty bad flat spots on the rims in the short time I used them. For reference, I weigh 165 lbs
>Am i being irrational in wanting 32H and j bend spokes?
J-bend vs straight pull doesn't really matter. 32H will be stiffer than 28H, but strength will depend more on the rim and how evenly tensioned you keep the spokes. Given your weight, I'd go with an enduro or downhill rim regardless of what sort of riding you'll be doing
>>201861
Shiet, we have some chunky monkeys ITT

Anonymous No. 201883

>>201835
Yeah I saw that too which prompted my thinking for wanting a 32H hub version. Its kind of funny that DT swiss touts this wheelset for all mountain when I think having 28H is a serious oversight, espeicially when folk will do some jumping on them.
>>201851
My bikes been fine so far this is the first major issue ive gotten in around 1000km. The hub failure itself was the inner housing bent (woth 1 crack) in places where the pawls would engage. My weight on those uphills probably killed that thing. Im essentially the same as this guy >>201861 I weigh somewhere around 225lbs, but have a heavy bike around 30 - 40lbs and then gear at around 10 - 15lbs
>>201869
I think the XM1700 are considered high end, they retail for somewhere aroind $900 so they should be fine, the wheelset really is just a 350 and a rebranded ex 511 which are both proven.

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Anonymous No. 201884

yeh I’m kind of a big deal

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>>201884
Climbing, road strip or a 12min DH run?

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Anonymous No. 201915

Does insurance even cover "oops I left it outside" situations? Especially the parts part, say you installed new carbons wheels. Would they cover that aswell or just the MSRP of the bike.

Anonymous No. 201919

>>201915
Homeowners insurance does cover theft and you can pay a small extra fee to itemize your bicycle (a high risk item) and have 100% msrp coverage for whatever parts are on it if it is stolen. If you use it, you probably will get fucked on excessive renting fees or be forced to pay mandatory high-risk renters insurance for the foreseeable future

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Anonymous No. 201920

>>201905
Top of the chairlift to the bottom, single black to double black to single black, and people race at this bike park all the time.
Honestly, I’m kinda disappointed, I’m NOWHERE near nailing that set of trails, if I actually hit the features I could probably cut off lots of seconds just like that.
>local fast guy in #1 is THREE MINUTES faster

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Anonymous No. 201994

>>201920
How many other people on the segment?


Also I got tired of fucking around trying to true my brake rotors after I got them slightly warped out of the packaging. So I went to harbor freight and spent the $30 for this and a stand for it

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Anonymous No. 202026

>>201624
First ride ended up being after a big trail running race, it was just clay and slurry covered in footprints.
Feels very strange after 6+ weeks of riding a bmx almost daily. It's about the same weight but twice the size and has squidgy bits that move when I move

Anonymous No. 202093

>>202026
Is it just me who dislikes curves on bike frames? I love the sharp lines of a mondraker.

Anonymous No. 202094

>>202093
I like industrial 2000-2010 designs....
For me? it's the marin quad dh

Anonymous No. 202101

I like the loud graphics on pre-2019 bikes. I don't know why bikes are trying to look all formal now and hide their decals. My EVIL Wreckoning is matte black and all the decals on it are small and hidden. My friend's Special Ed Stumpjumper EVO is matte black and only says S-WORKS on the downtube in gloss black. At least gravel and road bikes are still keeping it loud

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Anonymous No. 202140

>>198870
what gearing should I do to convert my verde cadet to trail riding/dirt jumping? also what tires and should I install an e-brake? will post picture later when I get to work. scooby dooby bikerooni

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Anonymous No. 202147

Never build wheels with the aluminum dtswiss nipples.

After less then one season they are cracking apart this is the third instance this happened to me

and also fuck tubless for having to get everything covered in that shit

Anonymous No. 202300

>>201451
I'm so jealous. Apartment living sucks for this hobby. I have 2 bikes and really want a 3rd. I need a shed or garage. And a van.

Anonymous No. 202414

>>202093
I like not busting my nuts on my frame due to my stubby legs

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Anonymous No. 202448

>>201820
I have also recently learned the hard way that you should service hubs more often. My spank hex hub decided that they wanted to no longer retain the pawls as they had severely bent the freehub shell itself (see the 10, 12 and 2 o'clock position on the right freehub mainly). I tried to bend the shell itself back (you can vice clamp marks) which worked for a couple extra months, but it ended up giving out and was just a liability. Ended up buying a steel freehub from Italy as it was one of the only places which actually shipped to the UK, hopefully this one lasts longer as it should be significally stronger. I do think it was partly user error for not servicing it more often (I did once in October last year), however I think that their labyrinth seal design is a bit crap and isn't very effective at stopping ingress.
Next time I get a new bike and a new set of wheels are required I'm going to get a dt swiss style rachet hubs as they are so much more robust.
>>202147
I don't even understand why DT or any wheel company gives you alloy nipples with their rims, the weight penalty for brass nipples is negligible in total system weight and they are so much stronger and reliable, they could just add on a £1 to their rim or wheel cost and make it so that no one has to deal with shit like that. I also like your Knolly :)

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Anonymous No. 202452

>>202448
Well, I'm gonna check my HEX hubs aswell. When wad the last tine you serviced,checked the hubs before finding that shit. In a month it's gonna be 1 years after getting them.

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>>202452
Started using them around dec 2022/jan 2023 so had a uk winter, spring and summer of riding on them before I serviced them in october regreasing the pawls, springs and axle. In april one of the pawls fell out of its locating area on a ride, when I got home and took it apart it looked pretty similar to that photo now, there wasn't really any dirt ingress but the pawls and springs looked corroded/stained which I'm certain is from water. At the time bending it back kinda worked but the aluminium is so soft that it probably bent back pretty much instantly the next time I rode it.

I think what fucked it was one time this winter the freehub essentially froze on a ride as it sounded like half of the pawls were engaging which could have put unnecessary stress on the shell. I never ended up taking it apart because when I got back from my ride I was freezing and then forgot about the issue the next time I rode.

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Anonymous No. 202640

Committed to the rain ride today, right or wrong.
Covered in mud from head to toe, rode through a waterfall, had a fucking blast.
No one at the park, me and the shuttle bus driver vibed all day, it was sick.

Hope everyone else has an as awesome weekend.

Captcha: SWAY

Anonymous No. 202785

former pro-bmx, haven't ridden a bike full time in years. hit a couble of blacks and blues on steep downhill trails on an older (yeti 757 with fox suspension) full suspension bike. at first was super unsure about what to do, it poured rain and our trails are insanely root heavy. by the end i was comfortably hitting gaps and bridges, but not a lot of the bigger jumps. still completely ignorant on a lot of MTB stuff but it felt great to get air again. thanks for reading my blog.

Anonymous No. 202786

>>202785
yeti 575*

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Anonymous No. 202799

Posting my bike. Love it. Does the job

Anonymous No. 202851

>>201096
>>201098
>>201143
Best bike ITT

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Anonymous No. 202857

>Completely empty trails on one of the busiest holidays in this country
Comfy. How was your ride this weekend, anons?

>>202785
>former pro-bmx
Based. Sounds like you'd have a good time on bike park jump trails
>>202799
Checked and based

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Anonymous No. 202912

I'm back. 2 months and a missed mass start race later. Went for a DH run without much pedaling other than the road part. I have a bit of discomfort on the ITB but nothing debilitating. It rained yesterday evening and with the sun in the morning the soil had to be loamy, it was. Unfortunately trail builders redirected a section for the race, it seemed it just passed around a really sketchy but fun steep chute but instead the bastards went straight through the middle of the chute putting several vertical logs to support a shitty berm that will flood with rain. You can't even take the old section due to the berm. I'm gonna see next time if with enough riding across it i'll be able to make a hole and restore the section to the way nature and God intended. It would be ok if the section was felt natural but it was just manmade with shitty 90° berms that just make you lose speed. I really don't know.

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Anonymous No. 202922

>>202497
chuck that shit and get a 350 classic hub, no meme stuff like i9 or onyx
>pic unrelated

Anonymous No. 202927

>>202922
Before this I had some older DT rims and 240 hubs I'm pretty sure, ended up replacing them because the bearings in all of them were shot, the freehub body was mangled from the cassette and both wheels were buckled from a crash. I got both rims for £30 each, a pro 4 front hub for £60 and then I only got the spank hex hub because It was on offer half price for £90. Along with £30 for sapim spokes, the total came out to £240, besides the freehub shitting itself everything else has been flawless with no rim dings and still running true. I did look at 240's/350's at the time but they were practically double the price of the spank and I would probably also buy the 54 tooth rachet ring which would further increase the cost. I guess I'm paying for it now.
I would never buy an i9 due to their incredible design of using a flexible aluminium axle to engage more than 1 tooth at a time which destroys bearings along with shearing the axle for meme engagement.

Anonymous No. 202928

Does anyone here do rapids rowing? Descending a river by kayak seems like the watersports equivalent of mountainbiking, so I'm curious if there is any overlap.

Anonymous No. 202943

>>202497
yeah, water doesn't fuck around. Trapped, freezing water can fuck up aluminum easily,.

Anonymous No. 202952

Narrowed down the cracking to potentially coming from the CSU in the fork.
Was recommended to try with a spare fork or one borrowed from a friend.
I don't have either of those :(

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Anonymous No. 202957

>>202952
csu creak is common and once you have it replaced it is very unlikely to creak again if a new one is fitted with the proper loctite

Anonymous No. 202959

>>202952
Try loctite 638, 640, 680 whatever is less viscous first dude. Remove the crown race and apply it, try to bend it so it seep through. Wait and redo. Also from the bottom and stanchions. If not you are fucked and will be a riding kitchen with all that noise

Anonymous No. 202979

>>202928
Yes, though I rarely do it anymore after going all in on bikes due to the lack of control you have in comparison to mtb. Like this anon said >>202943
>water doesn't fuck around

Anonymous No. 202999

NewFrents, is there any type of file you share for the beginners who want to get into it?

If not, then what entry level bikes would you recommend? The bike i will probably have to sell it in a year or so, since i will inevitably move from this place. So i was thinking somewhere along 300-500 budget is fine? I have found some options but i am clueless when it comes to brands.

Second concern is what type of protection do i need? I was thinking of buying a full face helmet and a pair of goggles since that seems to be covering all the important spots. Then what else? Kneepads? What about the torso? Boots?

I don't plan to go down the hills while i am on high on superfast juice, at least not for a while. Thank you in advance.

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Anonymous No. 203005

>>202928
I hate water, it’s wet, it’s cold and it gets everywhere
Now paragliding with a mountain bike, that’s an idea
>someone’s custom moulton mountain bike that breaks down and fits into a paragliding backpack

Anonymous No. 203007

>>202999
300-500 gets you basically nothing as far as new mountain bikes go, the minimum price for “safe and basic” new really starts at 500-600 imo and is more like 600-1000 for something you won’t want to replace immediately. I can see why youre having troubles with brands since $300-500 mountain bikes barely even exist; I know Costco sells Northrock bikes for $300-500 and I’ve seen them in person, they’re actually very acceptable, but if I was you I’d wanna push your budget up a little more to $1000 if possible, there’s a lot more options from real bike brands at that price
And yeah, full face if you don’t expect to do a ton of pedaling (or get a $30 half-shell helmet too to have options), kneepads are good, goggles/glasses whichever you prefer, gloves are important, and also stiff shoes that grip your spikey pedals well (you can get away with some non-mtb shoes, but the right kind of shoes make all the difference in ride feel, toe protection is just a bonus)

Anonymous No. 203008

>>203007
I have been looking into some brands and yes, even if it is an entry bike 300$ get me nothing. Budget isn't a problem, i want something that will not break midway and toss me off the map. Let's say with a budget of 500-600, what used bikes can i go for? I have found some models from the brands in OP but i really have no clue when it comes to geometry, weight, suspensions and so on.

The only reason i have troubles and i am not heavily investing here is because i doubt i will be able to enjoy the bike next year..

Anonymous No. 203011

>>203008
Forgot to add. I found myself a Trek Marlin 5 from 2019 at 350$ but i don't have the choice to inspect it. One of my concerns here is that this bike is 29 inches, is this size proper for a 6 ft man?

Anonymous No. 203013

>>203011
6’ is solidly within large sized bike frames (but obviously check with the manufacturers recommendation), and you usually only see the smaller rear wheel on extremely small sizes or on extremely long-travel rear suspension, you won’t have butt buzz problems on any hardtail bike as a 6’ man

Anonymous No. 203014

>>203008
At that price you want a hardtail (front suspension fork, but no rear suspension) and if possible you want the fork to be air-adjustable, rockshox if you can swing the deal but most likely suntour at that price (check if it’s air-adjustable, the coil suntours suck). Geometry shouldn’t be a big concern at that price point and when limited to hardtails, at best you can decide XC (more efficient, less forgiving) vs Trail (less efficient, safer downhill) geometry and leave it at that.
If you want full suspension, used and at that price point, you’re probably gonna be looking at OLD bikes so you wouldn’t really have room to be picky about geometry there either

Anonymous No. 203015

>>203011
The wheelsize is what’s 29” if you didn’t already know, a normal inch-sized bike frame (which is an outdated way to size bikes) is normally around 17-19 inches seattube length for large sizes, a “29 inch frame” would be insanely huge

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Anonymous No. 203018

>>198870
>Be me
>Bought a Cannondale superV
>It looks rad, like ketchup and mustard
>Got to ride a bike with a dropper post
>Want to put a dropper post on the fucking superV
>My multi tool rusted from sweat going through my shoulder bag

What has it come to, anons? How do I route a cable without attaching it to the frame or going into it?
And do I need a shock pump?

Anonymous No. 203030

>>203018
my first idea for cable routing is to remove that middle section of that cable guide on the frame and then drill into the two outer tabs so it can hold 3 cable housings with a zip tie. I guess you are in the unique position of being able to use a regular dropper with the actuator at the bottom. Take some measurements and compare with 27.2 seatposts, they only come in 100-120 ish drop but are still fairly long so I honestly doubt one will even fit. Also it's a Cannondale so God knows if the seatpost is even 27.2, if it's smaller it's already a no go

Anonymous No. 203032

>>203018
Fully housed external-routed dropper ziptied to wherever works is this even a question

Anonymous No. 203036

>>203030
Fully enclosed cable ziptied to the frame until it gets to the dropper.

It doesn't even matter how you route it

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Anonymous No. 203052

>>202999
Checked trips.
>If not, then what entry level bikes would you recommend?
If you're a total beginner, and you're not going to have the bike longer than a year, a 90s mtb that's in good condition would be fine. I used a bike that was 30 years old at the time that I got for free for my first year of riding trails, and had a blast. I still use it from time to time for the novelty of it (pic rel)
>Second concern is what type of protection do i need?
Halfshell helmet and gloves are all you really need for beginner trails. Some riding glasses could be nice for keeping wind and brush out of your eyes if you're sensitive to that. Full face helmets and goggles only work for going downhill since they're too stuffy to ride at slower speeds in. Padding would also be overkill for beginner trails, but if you're particularly concerned there are thin knee and elbow pads you can buy.
>>203018
>Dropper post on 90s mtb
I think it would be pimp if you went with a more period specific part like a hite rite

Anonymous No. 203053

>>202999
My first time riding was on a rental bike with basically nothing but water and helmet and I was fine. You'll figure out what you need as you keep riding.

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>>201281
> posts bikini pic on ig stories
> everything below her collarbone is submerged in water
She's my age and Italian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUWoJG3rT4

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Anonymous No. 203081

Any recommendations for good cycling glasses? I'm tired of flies and dirt flying into my eyes

Anonymous No. 203084

Anyone has any knowledge about Sunn '22 tox bikes? I am about to go and check one out. The guy is listing it for 520eu, from the videos and the photos it looks alright just a few scratches here and there. I doubt it is worth that much, a new one is around 450eu but it has tubeless tires. What price range should i try to negotiate to, if all else are perfect.

Anonymous No. 203085

>>203084
Also a cube '22 analog at 650. How much can i lower the price?

Anonymous No. 203095

>>203084
Where abouts in europe are you buying and where are you looking? For that price I'm sure there are better deals out there, those seem quite expensive for what they are.

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Anonymous No. 203143

https://streamable.com/9r1mna
The absolute crime they did on the trail. Went from a barely controllable sliding into a drop trail to a flat as a pancake walmart xc trail.
>>203008
>i doubt i will be able to enjoy the bike next year..
It'll become an addiction

Anonymous No. 203163

>>203081
i use smith shift mag, really nice glasses just kinda spendy.

Anonymous No. 203173

>>203008
Old man who rides old bikes here. Just get something. I started off with an old hardtail that was 15 years old when I started. As I kept up with it and as my dad rode with the club he got me and himself some of the latest era 26in xc and trail bikes around 2011 or so. I still ride those bikes today, admittedly I don't ride 5 days a week anymore but if I want to do some mtbing that isn't black tier I take those out.

Look for decent parts, with a design you like. Get it, and ride your easy trails. You will know pretty quick whether you want to keep doing it or not.

Anonymous No. 203174

>>198954
>xtrada 7 has an air fork
This 100%. Also thru-axles not QRs.
Got my son the 6 because they didn't have the 7 in stock, it's been a great bike. He's on full sus now, but we both still use it regularly.
The axle thing isn't an issue on it's own, but when you're on the scrounge for a spare wheel it's a pain in the ass having something that won't fit anything else. (QR with boost spacing, it's kind of an orphan, at least in my garage.)
The shocks on the 6 are just decoration really - I knew I'd be replacing them immediately, but you gotta have a new bike on your birthday.

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Anonymous No. 203175

Pretty epic ride the other day.
It's actually an easy track. What made it epic was confusing the last ¼ or so of this with some other track I did years ago - this was totally unrideable and pushed and carried for miles because I was sure that it became a virtual highway "probably right around the next corner" ha ha fucksake.
Nice trip though. Coppermine Trail with a detour to Rocks Hut for the night. Will do it again as I have a score to settle with the resident possum, but definitely leaving bikes a the saddle next time.

Anonymous No. 203220

>>203085
>cube '22 analog at 650
Considering that's almost the price of the new model on some sites, you can definitely try to negotiate the price down. I got my Cube 2021 Acid last year for the same price, so roughly half of the retail price is a feasible price range

Anonymous No. 203223

I test rode in the parking lot a couple of bikes at REI a while ago and as a 6' man a 'large' felt dangerously gigantic I had no idea what it was going to do, a medium was still big but at least manageable, is it stupid to buy a 'medium' bike at my size? Does being on an actual trail suddenly require sizing way way way up?

Anonymous No. 203240

>>203223
im a manlet and large is my daily driver, i think you would be dumb to go medium with your height

Anonymous No. 203273

>>203223
I am 5'11 and ride a medium from 2009. I like my bikes short, but I have a short torso. The large in a similar bike that my dad rode always seems long for me.
Modern bikes run large and many people like them, but do realize the stems don't have much room to go shorter so if it comes stock with a 60mm stem you can't go much smaller then a 40mm. narrower bars can also reduce the effective reach.

Your call. Luckily modern bikes have super duper low top tubes so most people can fit most the sizes.

Anonymous No. 203287

>>203223
the idea with longer reaches in modern geometry is that you are more centered over the bike, somewhat counterintuitively giving you far more control than hanging of the back. You'll more than likely have the best time on a Large which is typically ~475mm reach
If you happen to do some looking into this you'll probably find lots of boomer advice and a guy name Lee McCormick telling you to size down, the former being retarded and the latter also being retarded but trying to sell you a book as well
If it feels too big for sitting down and pedaling, slam the seat forward or consider a bike with a steeper seat tube, I can't imagine REI bikes are that great of a deal anyways

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Anonymous No. 203320

good day of riding. I think the moisture wicking on my goggles is busted. I had sweat pouring down my face as if I just popped my head out of a pool

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Anonymous No. 203387

Decided to tack on the entire perimeter of my city on the end of my trail ride. Good ass Sunday

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Anonymous No. 203433

>2nd win in a row with an obscene time difference
>forgot to check my fantasy team and he got removed

Dakotah Norton btfo by divine intervention, the weather, after getting 1st in qualis AND SEMIS, only a french man can win in Les Gets. He will return with even MORE rise on his bars for the next race to please the old cetic Gods.

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Anonymous No. 203500

is 2 hours for a lower leg service a lot of time

Anonymous No. 203540

>Bought an E-MTB
>Decided to add front and back lights to it via monkeylink
>Manual said to remove the battery, add the lights and insert the battery again
>Did so but now the key I use to lock and unlock the battery is stuck. No matter how I turn or move it, it won't come out again. Can't open the lock for the battery as well.
>And to make things worse, only the back light is working but not the front light.
Did I fuck up my battery lock after my very first time removing the battery?

Anonymous No. 203564

>>203500
Yes, if you did one you would know it’s like 6 minutes of actual work

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Anonymous No. 203576

Do you guys have specific pivots which chew through bearings? This main pivot on my rocker pivot seems to endlessly go through bearings. So far this year, I've probably ridden about 1300km with about 30,000m of descending and I'm on my 3rd set of bearings there, whereas the chainstays main pivot which is the same design and bearings are still perfectly fine after 2 years and have a much higher potential for contamination/damage. I think I need a spacer/washer between the frame and bearing or bearing and pivot covers along with scraping off that paint which is half scraped off already which should realistically never be there anyway. Everything is torqued correctly as well.
>>203433
I would be utterly mind broken over breaking my neck, I don't get how he is able to send it in those conditions in back to back races just a year after such an injury.
I've picked him every single round so far this year in PB fantasy and he's been paying off well but he's probably going to be too expensive now to have a decent all-round team.
>>203500
Yes

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Anonymous No. 203600

>>203081
For me, it's pit vipers
>>203223
Bike sizing will mostly be down to what feels best to ride for you. If the large feels bad, then it's probably not the right size for you. Fwiw I'm a 180 cm manlet and ride a medium enduro bike and large XC bike from the same brand
>>203320
>I had sweat pouring down my face
Maybe try cutting out the foam near the top of the lens for some extra ventilation (not the part that sits against your forehead)
>>203387
Based
>>203500
>is 2 hours for a lower leg service a lot of time
Checked and yes
>>203576
>Do you guys have specific pivots which chew through bearings?
Nope. Perhaps the linkage is misaligned

Anonymous No. 203820

>>203500
If it makes you feel any better when i lost my lower leg service virginity it was 3 hours.

Anonymous No. 203838

>>203081
Regular 3m safety glasses. Or these $20 Amazon glasses

https://www.amazon.com/SCVCN-Photochromic-Cycling-Sunglasses-Accessories/dp/B097T9LS58?pd_rd_w=oda1i&content-id=amzn1.sym.e3825789-e6f0-4fb1-a407-ff4674fea50d&pf_rd_p=e3825789-e6f0-4fb1-a407-ff4674fea50d&pf_rd_r=MP3VB36YHA87775S3BF7&pd_rd_wg=z1gBG&pd_rd_r=9f834688-1994-4cbf-87c9-2394d8c4aa9b&pd_rd_i=B097T9LS58&psc=1&ref_=pd_basp_m_rpt_ba_s_1_sc

>>203500
Not for the first time. Every time after, yes.
>>203576
I think you probably have a misaligned frame

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>>203081
>good cycling glasses
A couple of years ago I turned to Ali knockoffs.
Honestly can't tell the difference with the recent ones, and I'm not big sad when I scratch break or lose them after a week as I'm prone to do.
When I find some I really like I order a couple more with the 5-lens sets. Photocromic lenses are great for in/out of bush where I ride.

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Anonymous No. 203853

Took the bmx trail riding today after work while it was raining. Trail was super muddy and the slag rock gravel sections were a little slippery in the sharp turns. But it was a fucking blast. Can't wait until I get my new tires in the mail. I've ridden my current aitken's down to street smooths lol. I was trying to peddle out of some turns and was just spitting mud and missing cranks.

gonna hose down my dirty hog at work tomorrow. fuckin love bikin

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>>201018
lmao anon jesus fuck

take like 6 months to a year off of serious riding. it will kill you for a month or two but give a serious break for a while for recovery. If you rush it you won't have a long time in the sport. everyone gets fucked up every now and then. but heal bro get better love you

Anonymous No. 203896

I am interested in doing jumps and downhill, but I also want to do street trial. Is it possible I could buy a cheap mountain bike without a suspension and modify it for street trial without spending more than $500? I see a decent bike for downhill is over $700 I cannot afford it. I don’t want a trail bike I want to do something extreme.

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Anonymous No. 203898

Is having a go pro really worth it? I see the hero 11 is at 300yuros but I've lately seen alot of shilling for the chink dji action 4 which looks good for 330 yuros and the battery lasts longer than the hero 11. How much do you use them if you have them?

Anonymous No. 203900

>>203896
why not get a bmx bike and do street trial+jumps.
Then when you get good at skills+have more money get a DH bike?

Anonymous No. 203901

>>203896
No. 2 comletely different bikes and types of riding. Most you can get is an enduro/am bike and just pump the shocks/fork tmfor a solid feel but they'll not be under 1000 bucks. Unless very used.

Anonymous No. 203902

>>203900
Because I don’t see adults ride BMX and I don’t want parents giving me the evil eye

Anonymous No. 203906

>>203902
Normal adults also shouldn't be posting on 4chan, but here we are.
You'll get the stinkeye regardless of if you gap a stair set on a bmx or a downhill bike, it's not the bike they're hating on in that situation lmao.
Get a DJ bike. They're like a small hardtail and have park/downhill flow trail capabilities, as well as having the stunt capacity for street. Added bonus they don't look like a child's sized bike. Extra bonus is they are plentiful and don't cost a bucketload.

Anonymous No. 203907

>>203906
I can’t find a DJ for under $800 and I would modify it for street trial if I found a cheap one.

Anonymous No. 203909

>>203907
Well damn nigga I'm here offering solutions and you're just coming back to me with more problems. Deliver some more newspapers or short GME stock, whatever, keep saving your pennies and keep looking for an appropriate bike.

Anonymous No. 203910

>>203909
How can people afford $1,000 for a bicycle when a week worth of groceries is over $140 for offbrand slop.

Anonymous No. 203913

>>203910
Once you trash enough bad mountain bikes you will get something that can stand up.
Good luck, because I don't think you have the balls to do street trials if you are worried about evil eye, and muh scary adults on bmx.

Anonymous No. 203914

>>203913
There he is the town pedophile at the children’s skate park. Great image.
Sounds like I can’t afford extreme sports. I will stay inside in the cool air and play video games.

Anonymous No. 203917

>>203910
Budgeting. I spend $70 a week on groceries. Looking at your mindset of thinking off brand=slop and also struggling to save $1000 tells me that you don't have very good decision making skills. And $100 a week on bikes is not very much. Save up for 3 months and you have just saved $1000 for your new bike

Save $100 a week from that grocery budget and you can buy a brand new $5000 bike every year

Anonymous No. 203920

>>203917
All I eat is hamburgers, hot dogs and bologna. I’m not spending money on fancy food. I also don’t have enough for 3 meals a day. I have bills that are expensive.

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>>203914
no balls

Anonymous No. 203928

>>203927
no money

Anonymous No. 203952

>>203910
Rent is $600, bills are $200 and I steal food from work constantly. $1500 a month can be mtb richfag territory if you live an incredibly boring life otherwise

Anonymous No. 203959

>>203952
So if I somehow did get the money, would a specialized rockhopper elite work for trials too? I want to do trials style riding at some point but I don’t want to buy a trials specific bike because they are expensive and have tiny frames.

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>>203898
>Is having a go pro really worth it?
>How much do you use them if you have them?
Can be nice for memories of trips to cool riding spots, or memorizing lines for racing. So I'd say I use it on maybe 1% of my rides, and it's not really worth it outside of those situations. It can make a nice camera you don't need to worry about breaking at parties as well.
>>203910
This was from before covid hyperinflation, but I could afford multiple nice bikes while living off a poverty-tier $20k/year cucknadian (~$15k real dollars) in grad school.
>>203959
>specialized rockhopper elite work for trials too?
I don't see why not - any bike is a trials bike if you use it for trials. You might also want to look into a used 26er hardtail. It'll have nice short chain stays for trials, and you can likely find a good one for dirt cheap. Otherwise any hardtail with a low top tube and short chain stays would work fine and be pretty cheap.

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>>203960
Is a 26” frame for trials a good idea if I’m 6’5?

Anonymous No. 203964

>>203962
>Is a 26” frame for trials a good idea if I’m 6’5?
26" is the largest wheel size that comes on trials bikes. You could try larger if you want, but you might find it gets in the way when you do large moves that you really need to throw the bike around for. Plus, a mtb frame made for 27.5" or 29" wheels will cost more than a 26er frame 99% of the time

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>>203858
Kek, yea, I've banned myself to the hardtail for the rest of the off season, force myself to think about the risk I'm about to take with no rear suspension.
Thanks for the love brother, I'll be ok, I'm just a slow learner lmao

Anonymous No. 204118

Scott Aspect 960 for 550$, do you think it is a good deal for a beginner? The more i investigate the bike market the more confusing it gets.
I was looking at GT aggressor, some orbea onna 50, rockhopper and so on, they are all under 700$. But the Scott 960 is ready for the taking so i am pondering on that. Any thoughts?

Anonymous No. 204119

>>204118
I seriously don't even know why i am wasting so much time on that. On monday i am buying the bike and riding those fucking mountains around my area. Just give me the odds of survival, for the bike though, i don't really care about mine.

Anonymous No. 204159

>>204118
Get the one you like the look of, ride it for months/a year. Then when things fail either upgrade or get a better bike.
When you start mountain biking anything with grippy tires is enough. You learn quick, crash sometimes, devlop skills, and then enjoy.
All a cheaper bike does is make things more challenging(not a bad thing) or break quicker.

Talk to the bike shop guy to get the lowdown on setup too.

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Anonymous No. 204196

>try out horizon forza
So one of the things I've learned playing this game is that I love getting my ass kicked and getting better. Obviously in virtualspace that is easy because you can restart in a sandbox environment. What's the best way to get better at MTB irl? Something about learning new skills and getting better makes me hard as fuck, but i know irl will get me killed.

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>>204196
You ride with skilled people and maybe even ride with coaches. They'll teach you the techniques necessary to get through trails and features. The hard part is overcoming the survival instinct and just trusting in the bike and the technique.

I got really good at driving because I play Dirt Rally in VR with a G29. I wish I had something that could replicate the experience of riding my motorcycle and mountain bikes but there just isn't because the technique is in the body movement. You need to practice and learn from people more experienced than you. Sure, a steep descent is fucking terrifying at first but when you learn the proper body positioning, and how to use your brakes on steeps without going over the bars, the fear goes away and then you use your brakes less and less.

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>>204197
I guess life is a skill and it must be practiced. I feel like a vagabond finding skilled people to teach me things now. I can feel things again. I feel alive.

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Anonymous No. 204205

How much tubeless sealer are you faggots using in your wheels? I can't totally remember how much I put on originally, but I'm thinking around 30ml. I was out on a hardtail ride yesterday, hit a big fuckin rock in the middle of a rock garden and dented my rim, took a big chunk out of my insert too. So the tire started leaking at the bend in the bead (expected) but also out 4 or 5 spoke holes adjacent to the bend. I tried rolling the wheel round at different angles, holding it above my head etc. To try get the sealant into the holes and it didn't work. Broke the bead and pulled the insert out and there was basically no sealer in there. Maybe like a thin residue on the insert, inside the Tyre but nothing flowing round inside. Tyre is 29x2.6 schwabble insert is rimpact pro.

I accept I will need to redo the rim tape as well, my question is more related to sealer quantity than the actual circumstance it happened...

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Anonymous No. 204208

>>204196
Riding more frequently is key, as well as what Anon >>204197 said about riding with more skilled people. Talking with people about trails and line choice opens your mind as well.
I've found there to be a lot of carry over from weightlifting sport science, ~70% of your "training"(riding) should be done at 70% of maximal effort. In my head, that means blue trails at moderate pace, moderate intensity. Once a week, go ham on the blacks and difficult trails, that's your 100% intensity and pace, but it's not what you want to be doing to "get better at riding". You'll only get better at surviving those particular trails, with little to no carry over to other blacks and difficult trails.
The short of it is, if you operate at 100% effort, you will not adapt fast enough and end up crashing out.
Operating at a moderate pace, focusing on good riding technique is where it's at, with intermittent challenge. Over time your moderate pace will rise.

On a side note, timing segments or trails every time is pointless, it's like weighing yourself every day to see if you've lost weight. If you just try to push faster and faster, you'll end up like me >>201018. I've learnt my lesson now, and am having fun focusing on riding well, and taking calculated risk on the hardtail. The hardtail is now my best friend because it rewards me for good riding skills, and punishes me for poor choices, whereas the spirit of the DH bike demands blood and flesh everytime I touch it lmao

>>204205
I put ~100ml in mine, as per the instructions on the bottle. I usually put a little more than recommended, because it makes me feel better.

Anonymous No. 204209

>>204208
You got any good books on weightlifting sports science?

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>>204209
Not him, but this is classics

Anonymous No. 204213

Saw an Atherton bike yesterday for the first time and even with the black painted lugs it looked incredibly ugly, I don't even want to think about how bad the unpainted ones look.

>>204196
Ride more often and practice skills you want. So far this summer I've been riding around 10hrs a week, if the weather is good and trails are running well then I'll try to ride quickly near full pace, otherwise if I'm simply not feeling it or its wet/windy then I'll tone it down or ride my hardtail instead of my full sus. Personally I've found that being able to ride more often has made me a lot more comfortable riding at faster speeds and made me know where certain limits are. Maybe also follow someone you meet out on the trails, it's quite interesting to see what lines they take compared to you especially if you have ridden certain trails a lot recently and are glued to certain lines.

>>204205
Whatever the bottle says and then a bit more. Also I'd never fill sealant through the valve as thats just asking for it to be clogged.

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>>204209
Depends what you're after. I was a powerlifter before I rode bikes. I really enjoyed Westside style training, hence a few books off the reading list. I have Fundamentals Of Special Strength-Training In Sport, Y.V. Verkhoshansky as well, but that's on loan, that text was revolutionary to sport science.
As far as Westside goes, I find the dynamic squat day with the bands really has a lot of transfer for downhill riding. Bulk time on/time off single arm kettlebell swings is awesome for riding cardio too.
That being said, The Way to Live by Hackenschmidt is 100 years old and has more content to living a healthy existence than any other shit released in the modern age.

>Eat well (meat and vegetables)
>Move often
>Train for strength
>Get sunlight
>Keep good airflow in the home and bedroom
>Bathe regularly

There, now you don't have to read it.

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Anonymous No. 204243

I did the 2nd part of the Megavalanche which is forest riding and arm pump/hand pain is horrible. Those who rawdog the whole race especially the first part which is full of jagged rocks are absolute animals. I only spent the afternoon riding as I overslept but it was enough to leave me with lego hands by the end. Hopefully a lowers service its all what the bike needs to not kill my hands when I go through braking bumps at high speed. The good thing about black trails is that nobody rides them so they are in mint condition. Next time I'll get early and get to pic blanc to do the 1st part of the mega.

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>>204198
Just get out there and ride and be friendly. I make friends all the time when I ride. In fact, the friends I typically ride with are people I met on the trails. Just last week I became friends with and exchanged phone numbers with a guy who coaches a high school MTB team. I know a lot of you fellas on 4chan think you're spergs who can't talk to normies, but it's alright, just talk about mountain biking and the trails you like to ride. Just bee yourself and it'll be ok.

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Anonymous No. 204254

>damper on rear shock blown AGAIN
Where the FUCK can I find a goddamn 200x57mm shock with a piggyback? I'm fucking tired of servicing the piece of shit monarch that came on my bike after every time I take it on a trip to a real mountain
>>204243
>The good thing about black trails is that nobody rides them so they are in mint condition.
A very underrated motivation to improve riding skills. I rarely ever come across other riders at my favorite local trail system, even when the other easier ones nearby are packed.
>>204251
Baste advice. Riding clubs can be good for meeting riding buddies if you're too autistic to approach strangers on the trails as well.

Anonymous No. 204255

>>204254
Try looking for 7.875 x 2.25 eyelet as well. That's what I fitted to my old giant trance in place of a 200x57 (actually replacing a 200x50 or some shit) to increase the travel to 157mm from 140.

Good luck though, neither is really a common shock size any more.

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>>204254
Why not just go coil?

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>>204255
>Try looking for 7.875 x 2.25 eyelet as well
Checked, and I already have been, to no avail. Thanks though
>replacing a 200x50 or some shit) to increase the travel to 157mm from 140
I did the same thing to my rsd wildcat. Worst case ontario is I could try another differently sized shock i guess
>>204261
>Why not just go coil?
The problem is the damper keeps blowing. The air spring is fine

Anonymous No. 204304

>>204302
The problem is your monarch

Anonymous No. 204306

>>204302
It's a your monarch problem. They are usually very reliable. Also your fault for buying a bike with weird parts

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Anonymous No. 204376

bought a 2nd bmx for park and street, plus so my gf can ride when we go to the track or park etc. I am like 90% sure it's stolen bc the crackhead was hella sketchy and the bikes in really good condition

what should I do about a click in the front sprocket/chain? when peddling uphill or from a stop. I only got a 100 bucks plus the 11 dollars for new odi grips in the mail. So if I gotta get a new crank, chain, or sprocket or something I'm not that upset. I spent $400 for my verde brand new 6 years ago

Anonymous No. 204380

>>204376
if the front sprocket is moving you are missing a washer that sits in the sprocket. At least that happened to my bmx cranked dj. Was missing the washer so the chainring wobbled up and down.
It's called a bmx sprocket tophat washer.

Could be unrelated to your issue, just a guess.

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>>204214
>>204210
>>204213
>>204251
Thanks lads. God bless.

Anonymous No. 204495

I'm getting a Scott hardtail with 2x9 soon and I gotta ask. What is the actual intended way to use the front derailleur? Do you just drop it for climbs? I've only ever had a 3x and never really figured this shit out.

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Anonymous No. 204499

How was your ride this week anons? Do your xc trail centers have any jumps? The ones here are finally reintroducing them after a nearly 10-year prohibition.

>>204306
Sorry anon, I'm not getting another monarch. People IRL have told me they also had problems with theirs after visits to the bike park.
>>204376
Cheapest and easiest thing to do would be to strip down the cranks, bottom bracket, and associated parts and give em a good cleaning. I've even had dirty pedal threads cause a clicking noise before.
>>204495
>What is the actual intended way to use the front derailleur? Do you just drop it for climbs?
Pretty much. You basically want to drop down in the front if you need to use the easier rear gears so you can keep a decent chain line. Being in the opposite gears front-rear is called cross-chaining if you want to look into it more.

Anonymous No. 204523

i've got three chainwheels up front, should i just size it down and forget about gear changes at pedal point and worry more about back like most modern bikes?

Anonymous No. 204582

>>204495
How I use it when mtbing is this.
Big ring on flats, descents, or road work.
Small ring for serious climbing and cruising.
I ride vintage and have a 42/29 on 26in wheels and this is how I do it.

Cross chaining isn't the best but is really more noticeable when you are on the road or doing flat riding.
Just keep your stuff lubed too, that helps.
>>204523
What I did when I rode 3x is middle for most riding, and small for climbs. Big ring for road work.
Since I am too sketched to go big ring +pedalling on descents while offroad.

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Anonymous No. 204584

I'm on a bald rear tire and I almost impale myself on a rocky section. And a bit further down the trail I lost control on a slab. Really took me by surprise. Peeled eyes and puckered asshole waiting for an impact which never came. Quite a day to take my halfshell rather than my usual fullface

Anonymous No. 204592

>>204584
word. I have no tire tread on my dirt jumper and when I go to the track I'm just sliding around. gotta take every turn at the top of the burm almost flying out or I'll lose traction

need to get new tires I just keep forgetting to order them

Anonymous No. 204722

I bought a tacoma yesterday. I'm a real mountain biker now.

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Anonymous No. 204741

Did an xc race

Anonymous No. 204743

>>204499
Got a season pass for silverstar this week and rode twice so far. Its hot af (40C today and tmrw) so I'm not even leaving the hotel after work. Fuck that

>>204722
Kek

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>>204722
At least you didn't get a 4Runner

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Anonymous No. 204884

>reminds you about the consequences of short sleeves
These bitches leave a rash that itch so much for like 40 minutes after you brush past them. I'll go with a wire cutter next time to get rid of these sumumabitches and I'll drink 3 cans of redbull beforehand so when I pee on the spot nothing will grow for 100 years

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>>204722
Checked and based
>>204741
>100km
Dang, that's a long race
>>204743
O shit nice, m8. Not sure if you're from there or just on a trip, but a day trip to kamloops would be worth your while as well
>>204882
Kek, i love car ads made by non-mountain bikers. There's always at least one suv with a walmart special mounted to it at the annual car show here

Anonymous No. 204925

>>204910
Hot damn I've never seen a roller that vertical you mad bastard

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Anonymous No. 204935

Tried performing derailleur surgery over the weekend, trying to cobble together 2 semi-broken derailleurs into one. The sleeve, where the pin for tightening on the rear cage and holding the clutch, was corroded in the derailleur body which has meant that the one which I wanted to fix is basically junk as sanding away the corrosion made the fit and clutch inconsistent. Rather annoying as the current derailleur on my full sus the clutch is also going and most likely has the same issue which I assume is from water ingress from the hole which the spring inside the derailleur latches on. It's not even economical to repair a cheap slx/deore derailleur as parts cost about the same as a new one and it just saves so much faffing buying new. Damn you garbage UK weather.

>>204741
What kind of terrain does a 60 mile and near 10,000 feet of climbing race entail? The most I've ever done on my enduro bike riding fire roads/singletrack and black tech trails was around 25 miles, with 5500 feet of climbing in 5 hours and remember being utterly dead after it.

>>204884
There's gorse bushes along the track I ride to get to my local trails and pretty much every single time I ride past my left arm gets shredded. It really needs pruning but I hate riding with a bag so it's never getting fixed I shall simply live with the consequences.

Anonymous No. 204936

>>204910
Dayum that's steep. Can you huck it?

Anonymous No. 204953

>>204935
The terrain is basically the same trails as doing the local two day Enduro race. except you don't get a shuttle to the top and you are timed throughout the entire thing.

There is 12 miles of black tech trail decent, but they are steep enough that you can go mach Jesus over all the roots and rocks. However this is an xc race so the pace on the downhills is pretty relaxed (due to lack of skill of the riders in front of you) as well as being so tired that it feels like you forgot how to ride a bike. so you rest on the descents.

The other decents are blue and green flow trails so you just pedal them with a moderate pace and keep your average speed up.

For the calibre of rider that usually enters its mainly Floridians and roadie's so their technical skills are pretty lacking

https://youtu.be/EogFrJXPa9U?si=Ckg26U8y-ELma3B0

The race is called

ORAMM

Off-road assault on mount Mitchell

If you want to look it up.

Anonymous No. 204982

>start MTB a few months ago
>loving the DHs, get pretty good at control and carving berms
>know that its about time to learn how to jump
>hit the jump line this time instead of going around
>immediately over rotate the very first jump
>go over the handlebars
>break a rib

i think im finally healed up enough to go back out this weekend and the first thing i wanna do is learn to jump properly. any tips? pissed me off that i broke something on my very first jump because i wanted to just keep trying but instead ended up having to sit on my ass for weeks before i even got the chance to try again.

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Anonymous No. 205028

Do I get extra performance by paying 5 extra yuros more for the dual compound? I've read on MTBR from a couple that shit gets inside and another is a mechanic with tons of lowers done without complaints
>>204982
Can't help, I'm a tech lover(scared of jumps with vertical lips). With the rest just go fast, pull and land flat. Ez.

Anonymous No. 205034

>>204925
Ye, they love their steep lines out in bc. I almost just rode by that one without noticing it because it's not really an obvious side-hit on an otherwise pretty mellow trail
>>204936
>Can you huck it?
Maybe if you were so inclined, but the run up and transition at the bottom would make it pretty high consequence. Here's a photo from a different angle of another guy hitting it on trailforks https://www.trailforks.com/photo/19376109/
>>204982
>the first thing i wanna do is learn to jump properly. any tips?
Learn to bunny hop, or you will always just be a passenger on your bike on the jump lines. Jumps are basically the same movement, just drawn out over a longer time. You don't need to learn to hop very high, you just need to be able to do the movement without thinking about it. Only other real tip is to go practice, and ramp things up slowly on a low consequence jump line with small tabletop jumps. Recording yourself can help as well
>>205028
Do I get extra performance by paying 5 extra yuros more for the dual compound?
Only if the green color matches your bike's color scheme

Anonymous No. 205044

>>205034
Thanks. I can already bunnyhop, I'll try to focus on taking that motion to the jump next time

Anonymous No. 205048

>>205044
Everything I have read said do the same thing. Personally, I recommend finding some local dirt jumps, small, or making your own. I tend to like to spend a 1-2 hours practicing and find that to be a good time for me, much longer and I get tired/bored/etc.

Anonymous No. 205053

>>205028
You get better performance by doing your lower leg services slightly more often than recommended

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Anonymous No. 205147

>early knock at 1pm
>Home at 1:30pm
>Decide to bed in new pads on the hardtail
>Notice a creak
>Start chasing creak at 1:40pm
>Stem bolts, headset bearings upper and lower, fork crown race, bottom bracket, cranks, pedals, saddle, seatpost all cleaned and re-greased
>Creeeeeeeeak
>Rear axle re-greased because it's the only thing left
>Silence
>4:30pm

At least the rest of the bike has now been maintained, pic related.

>>204936
I'm stealing "Can you huck it?" for the next multimillion dollar MTB slogan and there's not a thing you'll do about it.

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Anonymous No. 205213

Test rode a Trek Top Fuel.
Cornering felt badass, and it had great balance over chunky stuff.
But it fit me like shit. Even with the 170mm dropper (wtf?) changed to a 150mm I still couldn't reach the pedals. But I also felt too constrained by the reach.
Ah well, guess I'll buy a pivot trail 429

Anonymous No. 205261

>>205213
How short are you/ your legs? As a manlet with around a 72cm inseam, my hardtail which has a 435mm seat tube can run a 150mm dropper, 175mm cranks along with and a decently high stack seat comfortably without any fitment/discomfort issues. The seat tube lengths on treks website seem in line with most modern bikes so seems surprising that you are having those issues. Changing handle bars, stem, cranks could considerably change how the bike feels and fits however I assume that during your test ride you will have tested some of these fixes. Personally I've always been in-between small and medium sized frames so I also have issues with trying to find something comfortable but it can be done, especially with modern bike geometry which is much more lenient to shorter riders.

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Anonymous No. 205271

>>205147
I feel you bro.
Be at peace now.

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Anonymous No. 205314

Those that do the megavalanche/MoH are mad, you gain speed too fast and can't control the bike. Probably its due to riding at noon with mushy snow but still, the arm pump just from doing the first half is intense and it's followed by a second part full of potholes.

Dented rim on a rock and it wouldn't hold air, had to buy and use tubes for the first time in 5 years. They feel different, like no support despite gauge showing 30psi. Squirming on everyturn. I'm gonna hammer the rim and see if insert will be worthwhile because I keep striking the rim while riding and its no bueno, especially if I'm gonna be riding faster on a race in that track

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Anonymous No. 205315

>cold white monster
Yeeeeaah Here comes the ROOSTERRRRR YEAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!

White monster goes hard, better than classic redbull. Lasted a full day at the bike park with only a 3 eggs+3 bacon strips+compote+ choccy milk taken exactly at 6:50am with nothing but a can of WM till 8:30pm when I ate a pizza.
I recommend it for riding.
>>205053
I was thinking of slidding a ziptie like when you burp them and adding fork oil inside the seal to keep them smooth, it worked on the dropper.

Anonymous No. 205329

>>205315
When I drink rb it makes me feel like I'm sponsored though.

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Anonymous No. 205357

had an OTB crash today and sprained my left wrist. The trail builders turned what used to be a rollable descent into a square drop and I didn't notice it so the front wheel went straight down, I went otb, tumbled, and then my bike hit me. It wasn't even a hard trail, the drop wasn't big, and it had nothing to do with the greasy conditions, they just changed the trail on me and I expected a smooth roll out.

Anonymous No. 205375

>>205314
I run tubes and there are different levels of rubber thickness in said tube. XC/road ones are super thin, where as DH tubes weigh as much as a tire. I tend to run medium high pressure with most tubes since I hate pinging rims.
>>205357
Sounds like you were on autopilot.... rip

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Anonymous No. 205380

Hardtail yesterday at the bike park, gravel bike today at the local trails. The dry bits were super speedy, the wet bits were super slippy.
Got the usual gravelbike-centric looks and enquiries of "are you lost?" everytime I stopped kek.
Probably going to get a Rockshox Rudy in the future, but I like the feeling of navigating tech shit at speed, it's all you on this bike.

Anonymous No. 205398

>Olympic mountain biking on
>it’s the women
I’ll pass

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Anonymous No. 205409

>>205398
joke of a sport for failed roadies with 98% gravel tracks and then random rocks and logs littered in a 10m section

Anonymous No. 205449

>>205375
I wasn't on autopilot, you can't see that it's a drop from run up to it and I had no reason to believe they changed it. It's not even a big drop, I would have been fine if I was going faster since I would have passed right over it, but I went for a slow roll.

Anonymous No. 205450

>>205409
Really hate when people tame naps on the trail, she even put her arms as a pillow.

Anonymous No. 205480

>>205449
Ah. Well I just know if you are going slow enough you can wheelie out of a reasonable short drop, and of course as you said fast you just glide over.

I can't count the number of times i have fallen over known features, let alone surprise ones.

Anonymous No. 205533

>tfw the mtb trails at the freaking Olympics would be basic bitch green trails round here

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Anonymous No. 205554

Why do people hate on xc so much? Even the olympic tracks which are generally more tame have features that most riders would be too spooked to ride on their boomerduro rig, let alone an xc bike

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Anonymous No. 205567

Pinkbike have finally done a review of the airdrop edit mx, I think next year I'm going to retire my edit v1 and get either that or a raaw madonna.
>>205554
Personally it just seems so unorganic. This track for the olympics was mainly some singletrack, a gigantic gravel highway with some short technical sections sprinkled in which have been manufactured and look silly/out of place. Another example would be the race a few weeks ago which had basically a chopped up log chute which looks ridiculous and is never going to be ridden when wet as you are 100% falling. Personally, to be properly interested in it I'd rather there be less laps/no laps whatsoever and have more technical courses to put an emphasis more on ability on the bike and not pure w/kg. Even if you aren't the most technical rider if you can simply stamp on the pedals harder then thats basically all that matters, the result of the mens today is a prime example. Modern XC bikes are more than capable enough that they were riding hardtails on the olympic course, you could probably ride it with a gravel bike and be completely fine.

Anonymous No. 205585

>>205261
You can do your own conversion into communism units but I have a 29" inseam and am 5'7".
Both my stumpy s2 and a trail 429 M have shorter seat tubes than a top fuel M so I think it's just what I need for my body shape.
I could put on shorter cranks but why bother when the 429 felt better.
>>205554
I'll admit some of those features would spook me because I suck. But why don't they use an existing trail system instead of making something that's 95% gravel riding?

Anonymous No. 205591

>>205554
It's because XC is mostly about fitness, and good enough skills. All the other mtb disciplines are more fun to watch. While it doesn't have the team play that road riding has either. So it's just a free-for all of who puts out the most power and who crashes.

If I was going to make XC cool It would have very challenging climbs(technical) since that's the one thing that isn't covered in most other mtb racing.
>>205585
Seems like average inseam for your height. Yeah if you like the bike that fits you better more just go with that....

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Anonymous No. 205608

>>205554
It's boring, it's like watching someone being miserable and doing cardio, ex road biking. Like the Tour de France, what's interesting about it? Those who race it look miserable doing it, and those who do it for hobby also look miserable. You can strap them to indoor bikes and blindfold them(or put a VR) and have them race, no difference. None pay attention to what is surrounding them. Even the highlights are boring.
>>205585
>But why don't they use an existing trail system instead of making something that's 95% gravel riding
There is Fontainebleu 100km south of paris, looks good. Perhaps locals rightfully didn't want their trails to be filled with gravel or natural tracks are too hard for Spandexbois. But props to the roadies for aiming down with the seatpost touching their assholes.
>>205591
>challenging climbs(technical)
It would cause the same issue with challenging descents(technical). They would all just getdown the bike and carry it like you see in races. Hearing the click clack of their cleats hitting the rocks.

Anonymous No. 205614

>>205608
It’s called a race dummy, the goal is to win the competition against your peers

Anonymous No. 205624

>>205480
I don't think I've ever crashed on a trail my first time riding it. It's always when I'm comfortable on it
Anyway, that drop was at a freak angle, I couldn't see it from the run up but I think I was also focusing on the ruts

Anonymous No. 205632

>>205624
Seems like a bad decision to have a drop there, but you will be used to it now. I always found I crashed when I got comfortable and sped up, or when it gets dry here and everything just gets really fast and dusty.
>>205608
>It would cause the same issue with challenging descents(technical). They would all just getdown the bike and carry it like you see in races. Hearing the click clack of their cleats hitting the rocks.
I would just make it a mandatory ride only section. Like a pass or fail thing, while still keeping time so the fastest still wins.

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Anonymous No. 205639

>>205567
>>205585
>>205591
>>205608
>Don't like course design and need more singletrack
Some of them are totally bland, but courses like MSA are bretty good. Unfortunately they still aren't all like it.

The problem with packing an xc race course with technical features and singletrack isn't so much that riders wouldn't be able to do it - it's that slow features will cause major traffic jams, and you can't really pass other riders on singletrack. The long gravel double track parts help thin out the crowd in the leadup to the technical sections to mitigate this problem. So you need to have these long doubletrack sections for passing and herd thinning to prevent the race from becoming "first guy to the singletrack wins"

I've thought about ways to help spice up the format, but all I can think of that would really work is something like adding a 4-cross style section to one of the downhills to allow downhill passing and bigger features. Also, for bigger races, seeding could be done with an e-enduro-style stage where riders set off one at a time on technical single-track climbs instead of short-track.

>>205585
>some of those features would spook me because I suck.
Don't be so hard on yourself, fren. Most popular videos of sendage online are from people that are in the top few percent of riders

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Anonymous No. 205680

Riding trails for the first time tomorrow. Headed to hidden valley adventure park on a second hand Norco Storm 1. I have absolutely 0 trail riding experience. How do I not die?

Anonymous No. 205689

>>205680
wear a helmet and ride lower grade trails/within your comfort zone, if you aren't 100% confident then skip the feature or trail

Anonymous No. 205781

>>205680
So update, definitely didn't die. I bought a helmet specifically for trail riding. I had an absolute blast. Trail manager was super friendly and knowledgeable, happy to answer newbie questions. I was surprised how natural it all felt, absorbing rollers, hitting tabletops and doubles, even a couple of technical rock gardens. Managed to do mostly blue trails with a few green chucked in. Overall not a bad day, can't wait to go out again. Any advice on pedals tho? I test rode a nice high end bike that had some really grippy pedals and it made me feel much more confident. Considering a pedal swap. Worth it?

Anonymous No. 205799

>>205781
Great. It can be worthwhile to do a pedal swap. I like the ones with metal studs/pins, but even nice plastic pedals are a huge upgrade over cheap walmart no stud pedals.

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Anonymous No. 205809

>>205781
Hella pleased for you man, it's always a bit daunting going to a new bike park, but pretty much every person is at the park because they love to ride, and are happy to help you out to enjoy your time there as much as they enjoy themselves.
Looks like you're in Australia with me, money for value, cleanskin pedals are awesome. I have these on my trail and hardtail, and never have any issues with them. Great feeling and good pins, and cheap enough to not cringe too hard when you hit a rock.
Contact points make a huge difference in how a bike feels, I'd recommend the deity grips too, grippy without feeling sticky, and soft without being squirmy in hand. When you start sweating your arse off in summer, gloves keep your hands on the grips and stop them sliding all over.

Anonymous No. 205810

Boys and Boys who pretend to be Girls on the internet! Couple of weeks ago i was in here asking you what mtb to buy etc etc. Finally i bought a hardtail (Scott aspect 960) and hit pretty much all the trails around me, even those black diamonds or whatever you call them which in retrospect was extremely retarded from my side, thank god i was wearing a full face helmet. Anyway some cute falls here and there but so much fun.

Now you know, i have been slowly throwing more money to the bike, changed my pedals, upgraded my tyres and this is it so far...but you all know how it goes.

My question is, i bought this hardtail as an entry level bike without having much knowledge between xc, trail, enduro and so on, i mostly do trails meant for enduro but i can't afford to pay 2.5-3k for a proper enduro bike atm. My hardtail is doing it all but i feel like there is a lot of suffering going on from its side. My drivetrain has started making a weird noise when i pedal it, and my front fork has reached its limit quite a few times, specially after a small jump where i have to land a bed rock. What upgrades would you suggest? One of the boys we are hitting those trails suggested to me three ideas:
1)Upgrade my drivetrain, instead of 16 speeds, get it down to one 1 disc and 10-12 speeds.
2)Front fork with greater than 100mm travel
3)Lower handlebars

The bike is fucking awesome, but i would rather keep it simple for the time being and not put 600$ of upgrades into a 600$ bike. What are some good budget front forks you would recommend for a hardtail?

Anonymous No. 205823

>>205810
Save money for a better bike

Anonymous No. 205825

>>205823
That's not what i want to hear man! Anyway, even if i had the money, come next summer i will have to move abroad probably, so i can't bring all my stuff with me. Once i settle in my new place, i will buy a proper enduro bike.

Anonymous No. 205827

>>205825
Unironically just ride it, not worth investing in a bike you'd likely take above its limits and price. It gets expensive very quickly. And riding on a hardtail you learn the basics of proper bike handling.
>Drivetrain
its gonna get expensive quickly as you'd also probably need a new hub which means a new wheel aswell.
>fork
A new fork is gonna be 200usd used and if you get one you'd likely need to service it so around 60-100 bucks. It would also likely use a thu axle rather than quick release. So new hub which is a new wheel. Another 100-150 bucks. Then probably an adaptor as it'll change from straight to tapered. So more money spent.
>lower bars
Dunno what you mean. A cheap 35mm stem will put you in a more aggressive position on the descents.

Though tires could a choice, allowing a more damped ride and protection

Anonymous No. 205833

>>205827
I see, i am not touching it any further then. Let's see how long it can last. Thanks for the advices here.

Anonymous No. 205842

>>205810
Ride your current bike into the ground. It's unfortunate but there is no point in throwing money at a cheaper bike hoping it will ride better.
Frame geometry, and the tires are 70% of how a bike rides. So get some nice tires. That you will be able to bring to your next bike. Michelin has a promotion right now giving your back $40 for a set of tires. So I would go spend $120 on some wild Enduro tires.

Save up for a bike with a 148x12 axel tapered head tube, no cable routing, and a common shock size 205x65 is a common trunnion size which will be more common on Enduro bikes.

Until then just ride your current bike until it breaks

Anonymous No. 205843

>>205842
>Typo

No headset cable routing

Anonymous No. 205855

>>205842
Yeah that's the wisest idea here, I think because it was my first mtb i got a bit sentimental promising to it my eternal love. Plus i just got back from the shittiest trail ever, i almost lost it off a cliff.

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Anonymous No. 205864

>>205810
Either ride that bike till it's falling to pieces/something catasrophic breaks and it's not finacially reasonable to repair, or if you bought it used, sell it now and spend money which you would currently spend for upgrades on a better bike but accounting for possible things you would need to replace after purchase. In the UK on places like pinkbike buy/sell or facebook marketplace there are endless amounts of good bikes released within the last 4 years which are all perfectly modern for affordable prices around £1000 which are more than capable for 95% of riding. Not sure what it would be like where you live in the US but I would assume it would be similar.


Pic is my current hardtail which I cobbled together for cheap (compared to new prices for a similar build) a couple years ago from parts of my previously old hardtail along with some new, as the frame was too small for me. Sadly looking at your current bike on scotts website, there isn't really much which would be worth transfering over to a different frame so not really viable.

Personally, I'd probably just ride your current bike and figure out what kind of riding you like/what bike would be suitable for your riding location. Ask other local riders what bike they are riding and what kind of bike they would recommend.

Anonymous No. 205869

>>205864
Hey bud, don't trashtalk my bike, talk shit about everything else but not my bike!
However, you are correct, i will just ride this one to death. Point is i am having fun and still have a shit tone to learn, even if i bought a 2-3k bike i would be unworthy of it.

Anonymous No. 205874

Manlet here, i am 178cm without shoes i assure you, problem is in the size charts, 178 is the top end value for medium and the first value for Large. What the fuck do i do now besides waiting till tomorrow to visit the local bikeshops?

Anonymous No. 205895

>>205842
the Michelin Wild Enduros have so much grip but I think they're overkill, especially the raceline unless you're always at a lift service park. I would suggest the Wild AM2 and Force AM2 if it's dry, or Wild AM2 front and rear for mixed conditions, or Wild Enduro Front, Wild AM2 in the rear. I put the Wild Enduro Racelines on my Wreckoning and they're so heavy and have a lot of drag for the big pedalling days. I'm currently running Assegai and Dissector on that bike for the summer but I'll be putting the Wild Enduros on it for when I head to Mammoth Bike Park in a few weeks

Did you ride the new Wild Enduros yet? I just said a lot of negative things about the tires, but don't get me wrong, they're great and they've only ever slipped on me once and that was because I unweighted the front tire over moon dust

Anonymous No. 205897

>>205895
the grip is ridiculous. If I have the body positioning right, I can grab the brakes hard on a fast descent and the tires won't ever skid, they'll just keep grabbing ground and force the tires to keep turning. It's like having ABS.

Anonymous No. 205922

>>205874
As a 180cm KOM(king of manlets) I can ride a medium or large. Just go visit the bikeshops.
My view is go with which one is more comfy for you.

Generally, if you have long arms+long torso go large, short arms+short torso go medium, and average arms+average torso your call.
Equal amount of people go to large or medium depending on the brand, location, and preferences.

I have both a large and medium on different frames and like them both.

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Anonymous No. 206021

>>205895
East Coast rider here, and I have ridden a regular wild Enduro but not the racing line ones. I find that they have very good grip in slightly loose soil, and have the feeling of a mid spike tire. It's not like they are magic or anything. They grip wet roots and rocks just like any other soft tire.
I also have a season pass for the bike park and try to go every weekend. Which means rims are now wear items.
The wild enduros are on the short list of tires I would actually put on my bike

I did this>>204741 on a 39lb Enduro bike with Continental kryptotal tires and a coil shock. So I think that it's 90% rider, but of course you are going to notice it.

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Anonymous No. 206231

I can't seem to remove my bar end plugs. They are just NOT coming out.

Anonymous No. 206248

A hammer was used

Anonymous No. 206250

>>206231
drill a scew into it and pull it out with a hammer

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Anonymous No. 206251

>Got blisters on me fingers from playing golf so now I have to miss out on my ride tomorrow

>>206231
>>206248
It's over. Time to buy a new bike

Anonymous No. 206277

>>206231
Drill them out, drill a hole in them and stick something like an Allen key through and pull it out. Put a screw in them and pull. Go drill and tap a hole in the end, put in a bolt, And pull. Take an angle grinder, die grinder or Dremel and grind it away until you have just barely touched the bar and it should come out. Smack it with a rock or a hammer until you break it (this one will only work if they are plastic) or just take a hammer and a pin punch and just shove it far enough into your bar that you can insert a new set.

There are many ways to skin this cat anon.

My new tires would not seat so I beat my rims with a hammer until the part where it was dented in came out. The rim bed was caved in so I hit the outside with a hammer and a block of wood. And they don't have any leaks after I got the dents take out. Still not true or round though
Best of luck

Anonymous No. 206303

Silverstar season pass anon here. Update: lost traction before a jump on rockstar and fractured a collarbone on the 3rd day of riding. Fuck me, just wasted $550. There goes another season. I'm just mad I crashed INTO the jump rather than not land it

Anonymous No. 206356

Also fucked it this weekend.

Quick Friday afternoon run, on my way back going down a byway I’ve done dozens if not hundreds of times, come to the bit where after a downhill section comes on a left hand bend where it goes from unsurfaced to concrete farm track. Still not sure what fully happened whether it was that I turned too sharp going to fast but in case I went flying and fractured the head of my left humerus and have fucked up my right wrist as well.

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Anonymous No. 206358

Soon there will be more anon's in this thread not riding due to injury than healthy riders, have you guys tried simply not crashing?

Anonymous No. 206378

Going on my biggest mtb trip ever this weekend to Quebec

All anons who post below this line will not get injured this season
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I am free from hexes

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Anonymous No. 206416

Well, after taking out my thin grips I put some ODI Rogues as the last 2 bike park days I managed to localise the finger pain that comes from too much riding due grips being thin and my proximal and middle phalanges not touching the grip, therefore the pressure from holding it fell on the palms and distal phalanges. It was hard to find it as it only comes after long riding and vibrations.
ODI rogues fit well but they just feel to thick, though I was moving the bike without issue it felt like it was a boat and bit of armpump from holding something too big. Though with them being thick there were basically no vibrations transfered on my hand, which was nice. Just too thick. I'm gonna go on another ride at a different place to see if it was me just getting used to something different. If the too thick feeling persist I'll go to the bikeshop with the 2 grips and a calliper to measure the ones they have. I need something not to thin that gives me hand pain and not to thick that holding the bars feels weird and gives armpump.
Hope this helps someone with finger pain and is able to localise it.

>>206358
Kek too many boomers ITT who didn't MTB before the cutoff age, 12, are in kill status and will take months to recover. I remember an old guy telling me that after a fall, kids just need to jerk off to recover but old men take life long injuries instead.
Well, I reached the age now that if I jerk off the day before I'm kill the next day.

Anonymous No. 206417

>>206277
I'm gonna try with a mallet next week to fix the dent on the 511s. Wouldn't be nice to have a rim trashed just due to a dent.

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Anonymous No. 206426

>>206416
I've only ever had pain in my hands when riding flat carbon bars on a hardtail with single pot brakes. I found getting riser bars the biggest game changer as you take weight off your hands, larger rotors are also helpful.

I haven't had a injury which has kept me off the bike in over 2 years and got most of the common injuries already out of the way in my teens, even after switching to clips over the winter I've not had any major fuck ups with them which I'm quite impressed at personally. t. early 20's zoomer

>>206417
use a portable bench vice and clamp the lip of the rim in it, works like a charm every single time

Anonymous No. 206439

>>206416
I started riding at 15 or so, crashed the most out f my local group, and only sustained 1 semi serious injury. I am a paranoid rider so I don't just "send it braH' super hard like others do. Biggest thing for me was swapping to grippier tires. Went from crashing frequently to almost never.
jumps are hard tho
>t. boomer

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Anonymous No. 206447

>>206358
hey buddy, I already recovered (mostly) and I rode yesterday
For the NorCal anons, the trail system behind Pacific Union College in Angwin is incredible. It is deceptive since it looks like it'll be easy climbs when you start, but once you go downhill, you have to climb short, but steep climbs to get out. It's also dry right now so I recommend some knobby tires like the Kryptotals

Anonymous No. 206458

>>206416
I'm 32 and this anon >>202785 and i feel awesome. helps i have previous experience riding a bike hard in some way or another.

Anonymous No. 206510

>>206426
>use a portable bench vice and clamp the lip of the rim in it, works like a charm every single time
This is actually a good idea. Though I realized the lip itself doesn't fit alone on both vices available, I'd need to use both lips.

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Anonymous No. 206571

>>206358
Hey, I'm back in action after my incident of broken bone and torn tendons in February, take those words back!

>>206417
Adding to the conversation of how to straighten rims, I've used a shifter, welders clamps, and vise grips at different times to grip and bend the lip of a rim (usually with a piece of towel folded over first to protect from scratches)

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Anonymous No. 206873

>When it rains in the morning so the soil has the perfect moisture level when you go riding later in the day
How was your ride this long weekend, anons?

>>206303
>>206356
My condolences anons. At least you'll probably be ok before the end of the season

>>206358
My blisters actually healed enough by monday for me to get a long weekend ride in still

>>206378
>Quebec
O shit nice, definitely an underrated destination. You better be hitting vallee bras du nord for at least one of those days. Mont saint marie is also very underrated if you'll be near the west side at some point

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Anonymous No. 206896

I hate tubes so fucking much. 30 psi + enduro equivalent casing(originally DH casing but old tire so weaker casing)and I still get a fucking flat. I'm 100% sure it was a gay snakebite on the rocky trail and I rode carefully as that place is infamous. At least tomorrow I'll fix the dent, go back to tubeless, put the panzer insert and rotate the front tire which should be in better condition.
Tubes are competely obsolete
>>206873
>>When it rains in the morning so the soil has the perfect moisture level when you go riding later in the day
Sexo conditions

Anonymous No. 206913

>>206873
Pretty good, we did an 8km downhill ride at night and almost broke my big toe, luckily i got away with just a broken nail.

Anonymous No. 206917

>>206358
Yeah it worked for a bit but then I decided eh why not get injured for funzies

Anonymous No. 206959

>>206896
>tubeless

See I have a semi opposite opinion. I love my tubeless bikes, don't get me wrong. But inserts. I'm not totally sold on them.

I haven't had a flat on any of my bikes (except my road bike) since fucking 2015. Then I convert my hardtail and trail/Enduro bike to inserts, after running them tubeless for probably 2 years with no trouble. Less than 100km on each bike later, on the HT I hit a massive rock, bend my rim and take a chunk out of the insert and it goes flat. I try pumping it up and it starts coming out the bead and 6 or 7 spoke holes adjacent to the bend, proper fucked. Then a week later I'm out on my Norco sight, riding a trail that had been a bit damaged by winter storms, ride past a displaced sharp rock and put a 12mm long cut in the sidewall of my back Tyre. It's a throwaway now.

I know both instances could be easily explained by rocks, but 2 punctures a couple of weeks after fitting inserts. I can't help but think the inserts played a part.

Anonymous No. 206967

>>206959
Meanwhile there is a madlad in our group, bough a scott HT, no tubeless, nothing, he rides 10kms up a mountain, and goes down another 10 averaging 35-40km/h. Rocks, trees, drops, nothing matters, and his tires are neither tubeless nor inserts, you just got some bad luck there.

Anonymous No. 206987

>>206959
I also gave up on inserts, had a rim strike when using the original rimpact which ended up bending the rim bead and bed. Couldn't reseat the tyre no matter how hard I tried on the trail and used 3 CO2 canisters, attempting to use my handpump wasn't even worth it. Ended up walking 12 miles home that day so now I take a pump, tyre levers and an innertube. Also inserts are an utter pain in the ass to fit and remove so I would rather run a heavier casing. And honestly besides them rolling slower on uphills, I like the feeling of a thicker casing much more.

Anonymous No. 207052

>>206959
That's bad luck. The sidewall cut is for not using DH tires.
I've never tried them aswell but I want to just plow over stuff, it's a nice feeling. You can also take shit&sketchy lines that go faster. On my tipical trails I don't rim strike as much and as hard as I do while in bikeparks.
We'll see by EoW. I fixed the dent(s) of the 511 with the bench vice, and i'll be using the panzer insert which was quite light( 135 grams) and DH casing. Hopefully its bombproof.
I'll die climbing on long and slow fireroads now, but I'll die like a man. By a heart attack from the energy drinks to pedal the SLED.

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>>206873
>>Quebec
>O shit nice, definitely an underrated destination. You better be hitting vallee bras du nord for at least one of those days.
The fucking trip got postponed because of the tropical storm, fml.
Oh well, my dad might make it up with me for the rescheduled dates so that will be fun.
Vallee bras du nord is where we'll be for 2 days, looks incredible.

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Anonymous No. 207135

So i've gotten into MTB about a year ago and have done (and constantly doing) what my local area has to offer, which isnt even that great. I live in a third world SEA country so as you can infer, trails are just barely managed by people like me and not that long/maintained. We dont have any bike parks except for 1 which just opened this year and is barely anything (though its a start). Point being, I've come to realize that this is all I got for the rest of my life compared to a lot of what developed countries can offer so im kinda depressed being mostly limited to my country. So, I've started thinking of where to go (and im open to any suggestions) but its probably going to be whistler or rotorua since those are the only ones i know that are huge bike parks.
Was wondering just two things, one being if I could, is 1 week enough or should I go for 2, or even 3 weeks? And then second, what can I expect daily costs to run me if I want to stay there comfortably (i.e. decent - nice lodging and food) + a bike rental

Anonymous No. 207136

>>207135
Come south right now, get in for the pruning season in the orchards, stay for the thinning and picking season, work during the week days for board and pay, ride on the weekends. Heaps of farms around bike parks as they tend to be in natural places. Easiest work to get into, and decent paying too.
>Earn first world wages, live in first world nations for as long as your visa allows, living your passion.

>Point being, I've come to realize that this is all I got for the rest of my life compared to a lot of what developed countries can offer
Might as well live then brother, get out and go to all the bike parks while you still can. You only get one life.

T. Tasmanian bike park enjoyer (Maydena, Derby, etc).

Anonymous No. 207137

>>207135
Can't speak for whistler but I travel to rotorua pretty regularly. Accom will set you back 150-250NZD a night. Don't book the absolute cheapest accom as post-covid rotorua has turned into a real shithole of a place and you dont want to end up in/next to "emergency housing" which are basically motels full ferals and gang members. Defo read google reviews of where you plan on staying. The forest is pretty safe though. How long you need depends largely on your riding level and how many trails you want to ride, a guy rode all the official/mapped trails in the park about 12 months ago and I think it was 320km? Then theres maybe 50km of illegals. So if you wanted to come out and ride a good chunk of the park I'd suggest hiring an ebike for at least a few days, plan a couple of rest days in between, go have a look at the skyline park across town, which has a gondola uplift and park style trails that are absolutely destroyed by braking bumps. Tokoroa about 45 minutes drive away has some good trails, taupo has a big park too but since it was destroyed by cyclone it's mostly been rebuilt as an XC park so probably not worth going to. But yeah if you include a day for being jetlagged, a couple rest days in between, a day or two of checking out other parks and 5-6 days of riding in the redwood forest you probably want 2 weeks. Or you could do it in 1 week, I don't think you'll miss out on anything you'll just be fuckin sore.

I'm not sure about bike rental, I hired an ebike a couple of weeks ago for $120 for half a day, I think a full day might have been $160.

As I have said to other /mtb/ fag's, if any of you do end up coming to NZ and want someone to show you round the rotorua trails il come up and guide you for a couple of days. Im not a professional guide or anything but I have been riding there 12 years and know my way around pretty well.

Anonymous No. 207139

>>207135
I've been riding my local trails for probably the past 8 years and they never get old for me. There are probably around 20 tracks varying from 20s to about 4 minutes in length, most of which are a minute long and being graded from blue to single black. Every track is rarely if ever maintained due to them being illegal, so they pretty much only change through erosion once built. Personally, I still enjoy riding them and have been going around 4 times a week this summer. Maybe I'm weird, but I just enjoy riding my bike.

You could always try to do some building yourself and be the change you want to see. Could just be a berm, a jump or some random rut track that you create by riding the same line again and again. You might inspire someone else to do something too in the process.

Anonymous No. 207140

>>207136
Yeah, ill live with what I can but getting in my wage cage and saving up for bike trips is what im set for
>>207137
Thanks for the info anon, i'll try to aim for 2 weeks for sure then, I do really wanna get the most bang for my buck, and hit you up if I ever do end up in rotorua.
>>207139
Off the top of my head there are 3 trails here within an hour of me, 1 is, right next to me, but its a mix of empty lots and road, and about maybe 2-3kms of actual trail. Second is an hour away which is the downhill bike park, with 3 lines of ~1.5km each (so very quick, and you have to bike up yourself, pain). Then another one about an hour away of about maybe 10km, also mix of road and trail. There is unfortunately not much for pure trail that can last 20 something minutes. If my local trails were like yours (varied and quite a lot more) then yeah I'd be set. I do enjoy riding (been going at least 4 times a week the past year) but yeah... riding the few I got so regularly does get repetitive.

Anonymous No. 207148

>>207135
I have declined great job opportunities for that sole reason, shitty trails all around. Europe is nice though if you can get here and find a job. France and Greece have some of the best trails i have seen in my life. French trails are slightly deadlier though.

Anyway, don't give up anon, have you tried to find other people like you in your area? Maybe you can all get together and start opening or stretching the existing trails. As you said bikepark is a good beginning, talk with the dudes who have it to see what they are planning and what possible ways they consider for expanding them, tell them what you want to see and so on. Holy shit, i am actually saddened by reading your post.

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Anonymous No. 207199

Rode a couple of the more technical trails today which I rarely ride as they're out of the way compared to the majority of the trails along with being practically only push up only on a 28% gradient (at least according to strava). I need to ride them more before summer ends and they become an impossible muddy slip and slide.

>>207140
ok nevermind it's actually over for you, time to get digging. I'd say the only thing you have currently is some pretty nice looking soil.

Anonymous No. 207213

I'll financially never recover with how much this shit cost. I should start selling coom

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>>207060
>The fucking trip got postponed because of the tropical storm, fml.
Unfortunate. At least you can reschedule to hit MSA for the world cup later this season. Vbn is a reasonable drive from msa so you could still hit it if you're not into the trails near the world cup tracks
>>207135
> but its probably going to be whistler or rotorua
Of the two I've only been to whistler, so I don't know about rotorua
>is 1 week enough or should I go for 2, or even 3 weeks?
If you're only staying in whistler and only riding at the bike park, 1 week is pretty good, might even be a bit long, but i've been there a few times already so the novelty of it has worn off for me. If you have good fitness or want to rent an ebike, there's an insane number of trails everywhere in BC, so I would say it's worth it to stay longer and hit some other trails in whistler valley or places like squamish and vancouver as well. You'll likely fly into vancouver anyways, and squamish is close to whistler and has more interesting trails imo.
>what can I expect daily costs to run me if I want to stay there comfortably (i.e. decent - nice lodging and food) + a bike rental
It'll likely cost at least $200 cad per day for hotel and food, plus you'll want to rent a car if you plan on going anywhere outside of the village. Renting a bike isn't worth it imo unless you want an ebike. I've never done it, but I think it's around $150/day if you rent one for a whole week
>>207135
>I have declined great job opportunities for that sole reason, shitty trails all around
Based and same, but I've been stuck in a shithole for mtbing for nearly a year while I look for doctorate positions kek. I definitely took being able to ride to nice trails from my house for granted. How much better are the trails in france than the other countries that have the alps in them? I'm particularly interested in that region

Anonymous No. 207263

>>207230
>How much better are the trails in france than the other countries that have the alps in them?
Can't speak for other countries(although MTB in austria is not allowed unless its a bike park or trail system). In the french alps you have quite alot of ski stations together so theres often conections between them. A big factor aswell is the accessibility, you can go to them either by train or bus. And you can also go to the mountain by bus, so you take the bike with you and go down the trails down to the city.
>I definitely took being able to ride to nice trails from my house for granted.
It's like this here. Look into UGA or university of savoi mont blanc for doctorate positions. Lyon and genebra are close but would require a drive to the trails

Anonymous No. 207291

Have found myself a shitty hardtail that i am plannign to ride till its death, but as a new rider, i have no idea how to properly take care of my chain, even though i am cleaning it and lubing it after each ride, it makes some fucking weird noises all the time, plus it fails to move to the right gear, for example if i want 7th gear, i have to put it into 8th and then go down 1, it is impossible to go from 6th to 7th. Is it dead?

Anonymous No. 207296

>>207291
That sounds like more of a shifting issue. Is the your derailleur hanger bent? You need a tool to check. If it's not that then you need to adjust your derailleur cable. If it still doesn't move right after everything else is adjusted correctly you need a new cable. As a personal preference I think the Shimano xtr cables last the longest, so I prefer those.

Anonymous No. 207297

>>207296
yeah my derailer was bent last ride out, had a good crash. Will take it to the bikestore on monday and see what is up. I thought i had it fixed but as it seems i didn't.

Anonymous No. 207299

What's the best way to carry your stuff for a ride? I only have a big evoc bag that is empty. I only want to carry a phone , keys, wallet, a gel or bar and some water. Is a hydration pack or a hip pack the way to go? My bike has no bottle cage mounts...

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Anonymous No. 207325

>>206447
went back again today. I didn't put the kryptos on because I thought I didn't need them that bad. Still dry as hell despite all the fog this morning. Disappointedly, the fog doesn't reach the elevation this park is at. I thought it might be a chill day due to overcast but nope, drove straight through the fog layer

Anonymous No. 207344

>>205053
Man this is bs. A full service was done using the seals that come with the rockshox kit. I'm confident there's more stiction than previously. I can feel it while pumping the fork. And it's not the service being a shit job as my shit is impeccable.

Anonymous No. 207346

>>207344
Yeah, you just replaced worn seals with ones that are not worn. So they are tighter. Given the same lubrication having even a little bit of bath oil on it the worn seal will have less stiction

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Anonymous No. 207347

Fucking bitch tits 4chan says my post is spam.
Can a man show off his new garage mounts in peace.

Anonymous No. 207348

>>207347
Looking good anon

Anonymous No. 207349

>>207299
Fanny pack is my favorite. Gets awkward and heavy if you put your water in it but if you have no frame mounts not much you can do.

Anonymous No. 207351

>>207344
Seal replacement isn’t something you have to or even want to do every 50 hours, but manufacturers can’t sell a shot glass full of oil and some pieces of foam to you for $50

Anonymous No. 207359

my waistline has shrunk considerably since I bought a pair of Endura shorts and now they slide down when I wear hip packs or have more than my phone in my pockets. I am suffering from success.

Anonymous No. 207363

>>207349
Do you use a bladder in it, or just a bottle?

Anonymous No. 207367

>>207346
Nuh uh. Having put several throughout the years, stiction has never been like this even when new.
>>207351
It wasn't a 50h one.

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Anonymous No. 207376

>>207148
I do have UK citizenship so If im really dedicated and willing to leave my home/family and everything, I could maybe make my way to Europe. Would be hard to start anew, but its always an option Its getting pretty tempting as each day passes by...
>>207230
Thanks, for the info, really sounds like 2 weeks is the way to go, especially given i'll have jet lag and want some rest days. Probably best to rent a bike since one, probably darn expensive bringing my brike across the pacific and back, two, if something breaks, it aint my problem three flexibility to do any trails I'll come across. Though the150$ adds quite a punch to the bill. If it turns out I need to be really stingy, maybe if im lucky I could ask a friend of a friend of a friend who could lend me one.

Anonymous No. 207377

>>207363
Usually I put a bottle on my frame and just gear in the fanny pack.
If I need a lot of water I'll use my other one that has a bladder

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Anonymous No. 207443

>>207376
Look into what your airline will let you take as checked baggage, you might actually be OK. AirNZ will let you take an item of sporting goods (a bagged bike, can't be an ebike) on board as oversized baggage and it counts as 1 item of checked baggage. Presumably other airlines are the same.

So if you can pack your clothes/riding gear in the bike bag too and all the other shit you need in a carry on bag you are set. Or if you have a ticket with 2x checked baggage its even easier.

I took a photo on Saturday

Anonymous No. 207486

>>207263
Thank m8, I'll be sure to check those institutions out. Also, yeah, I hear the biking infrastructure is much better in europe than north america. Besides, I wouldn't mind a bit of a drive if the trails were in the alps lol. Here it's about a 1 hour drive to the nearest trail system, and there is only 80 m of elevation
>>207299
Checked.
> I only want to carry a phone , keys, wallet, a gel or bar and some water.
You can get backpacks that are basically just a shell for a bladder, with a small pocket for a phone and a few other small things. Otherwise, a fanny pack with bottle holder would be nice to avoid getting a sweaty back. I would avoid the fanny packs with a bladder & drinking tube setup.
>>207376
>Probably best to rent a bike since one, probably darn expensive bringing my brike across the pacific and back
I really think you should look into this more. As NZ anon pointed out >>207443, flying with your bike is usually pretty cheap, if not free your ticket with most airlines. Even including buying a bike travel bag, it's very likely going to be cheaper than renting, and then you'll have a bike bag for all of your future trips. I would really only rent if you're set on specifically riding a downhill bike, or you want an ebike for help on the climbs outside of the park.
>if something breaks, it aint my problem
Depends on what breaks, but if it's expensive, the rental company will take it out of the security deposit if you don't pay extra for insurance

Anonymous No. 207641

Has anyone here had a leaker charger 2.1 damper through their compression dials? I've been trying to figure out what size orings to buy to fix it. I've seen a couple of videos on youtube along with looking at forum posts, but none seem to come to a consensus or want to say what on what size orings to use, the most recent recommendation I can find is 3x7mm. There are service kits which you can buy but are stupidly expensive at ~£70 for a set of orings and other parts which I don't need. At that price I could buy a push hc97 and not have to replace the orings. I'd rather not have to take the damper apart before I have the parts to fix it.

Anonymous No. 207681

>>207641
Why not just buy the service kit and service it?

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Anonymous No. 207740

The only reason I didn't go to the bike park today to ride was that a day long storm was announced after noon for the last 2 days.
>Get up at 6 to check
> cloudy as fuck
>almost 4pm
> sunny and rain at all
Its so tiresome
The problem with storms is that they stop the lifts.

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>>207681
I can't be bothered to change every o-ring. I've bought a pack of 7x3mm o-rings to hopefully eliminate the leak and if that doesn't work I'll cave in and buy the entire service kit even though I dont need the majority of the parts. Why should I realistically need to replace the sealhead (for both air and damper), piston seal and footnut on a fork which is less than 3 years old, why can I not repace the o-rings/seals in those components? I already have the updated c1 airspring seal in the fork too so it all seems very dumb.

Anonymous No. 207825

>>207770
If you are not wearing out your forks in less than a year even with 25hr lowers services you are not riding hard enough.

Also for the correct o ring size go check out this design handbook and calculate/find the size you need.
As long as you get it close enough it will work, how close is that, idk sounds like you are about to find out. https://www.parker.com/literature/O-Ring%20Division%20Literature/ORD%205700%20Parker_O-Ring_Handbook.pdf

I would use design table 5-2 that is located in section 5-32. Or in other words on page 138. Since the seal will be moving very slowly you can tolerate slightly more squeeze that specified in the table

Anonymous No. 207882

>>207770
Because your fork is leaking and you cannot effectively identify the issue, that’s why replacing 3 year old parts is 100% on the table

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Anonymous No. 208117

Gonna put these bad boys next week when I get time. The red lip is much softer than the green one. That one just keeps oil from the lower below it and the green lip keeps dirt and shit out. Should be for lower stiction. At first glance the inner diameter looks smaller than the ones I expected, 35mm, thinking I got it wrong I checked and I ordered the right ones. I though the site got it wrong but it's well marked on the seal, ø35mm. Measures 32mm. Gonna look in the trash to check the older seals I threw last week

Anonymous No. 208330

>>208117
just see if it fits over your stanchion.
Also where did you buy these? I recently looked and only found dirtbike fork seals

Anonymous No. 208364

>>208330
Bikeinn. 34 yuros for the 35mm, same price or not much more than the old ones

Anonymous No. 208370

>>208369
Nouvelle édition

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Anonymous No. 208373

>>208370
I fucked up
>>208371

Anonymous No. 210410

>>198870
Just over-forked the fuck out of my trail bike.
Was a bit concerned how it would turn out, but got new fox factory forks and shock for about the same price as just the shock, so why not.
29 forks with more travel, on a 27 frame (kept 27 wheel on there).
Still climbs adequately (previously a destroyer of mountains, now it's just ok). Downhill though, holy shit.
I don't even know what this thing is now.
But I love it.

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 213109

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