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Anonymous No. 199236

In a street fight, is it better to throw the first punch or counter? This is assuming you can't run, or kick because of the terrain. No weapons also.

Anonymous No. 199237

>is it better to strike first or strike second

Anonymous No. 199250

From a legal standpoint you want to make sure you were in clear threat for your safety. The best way to do that is to say don't come near me. If they then approach you close enough for you to hit/kick.. then by all means go for the KO/front teep

Anonymous No. 199259

>>199250
The real issue is that like 99.99% of actual street fights are completely voluntary and if you don’t care about looking tough you can almost always just walk away

Anonymous No. 199336

>>199259
Where do you get that figure from. You can always walk away and be assertive. If you show too much fear it can initiate the prey drive especially against multiple people

Running isn't an option all the time either

Anonymous No. 199337

>>199336
>where do you get that figure
Reality
>running isn’t an option
I’m not talking about running I’m talking about just not engaging with retard antics

Anonymous No. 199363

>>199236
depends who ur fighting. if they look aggro as fuck then u gotta be dialed in a ready to counter. otherwise try to be more aggro than them and come at them and most time they gonna back out

Anonymous No. 199367

>>199337
Don't know what you're even arguing. Sounds like pussy cope though

Anonymous No. 200734

>>199236
Hit first thats the first bridge, the police are the second. Anyone can crack their skull and be killed

Anonymous No. 201088

>>199367
It is.
>>199337
>>199259
This is a sheltered little bitch who has probably lived in gated community all their lives. They think you can just magically avoid all physical violence all the time. This is the epitome of pussy cope. Someone so fucking removed from reality they can't fathom that there is more than .01% of people who want to hurt you just fucking because. The existence of most niggers in prison alone disproves this dumbassery.

Anonymous No. 201089

>>199236
Assuming you have the skill, it's almost always better to counter. Both for legal & practical reasons. Legally, in most places, it.puts you in the clear. Practically, an opponent caught with a counter is a lot more thrown off than a first strike that may be foreseen.

Anonymous No. 201116

>>199236
>>201089
Again, assuming one has the skill necessary to effectively counter, then the only real threat of first strike is being sucker punched. If you're not ready to be hit, then defense and countering is irrelevant. At that point, one's only hope is that his opponent misses the free shot.

If the choice is to win a fight with a sucker punch or let the other guy square up, I would always go with the sucker punch. This isn't a gym, there's no points or referees. It doesn't matter if you win a fight fairly.

There's always the off-chance that one's opponent is fast enough, strong enough, and accurate enough to manage a one-shot knockout, but if one is skilled enough be able to effectively counter and there's no thread of a sucker punch, then one's defense should be good enough to rely on.

Anonymous No. 201571

>>199236
If the first punch will be a surprise then I imagine that's the preferable strategy. If it's not a surprise then no, you want to counter. If you're worried about legalities you generally want to run away like a coward to make sure you're clear of the law. Participating in a fight is always going to be fuzzy about whether the law wants to book you or no, regardless of the situation.

Anonymous No. 201575

>>199259
>walk away from a situation with an angry individual
>angry man runs up behind you and sucker punches you in the back of your head which is the absolute worst place to be hit
But atleast you were a le civilized gentleman and handled with intelligence unlike those violent brutes right redditboy?

Anonymous No. 201680

>>201088
>>201575
You're both retarded. Just study how the huge majority of street fighting starts. Maybe not 99.99% as he said but almost all of them are fought by complete retards for absolutely banal and moronic reasons, like road rage or bar fights.
>but le nigger is going to mug me!
That's likely, and in that case he's probably going to be armed and your meme MAs won't do shit.
>The existence of most niggers in prison alone disproves this dumbassery.
You cannot be this retarded. It's a fucking American prison you imbecile. Every single person there, nigger or not, is on edge 24/7 and almost all of them have proved that they cannot follow simple societal norms.
>angry man runs up behind you and sucker punches you in the back of your head which is the absolute worst place to be hit
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Anonymous No. 203208

>>199236
You tuck your jaw in, get in stacce, put your hands up in the "oh on i'm defusing this situation" kind of way so you can defuse while being able to hit/defend easily.
If its someone that isn't over 125lbs or 60 kg, you right hook to the jaw.
If its someone that looks experienced in combat sports or is a fat bastard, you keep your distance and counter.
If its more than one person run and if they chase you and you can't run away you find a narrow corridor where their numbers advantage is diminished and teep/cross.
The real secret is having your game plan prepped ahead of time and being physically prepared as well.
You can't think well on the spot unless you're a yolked combat sports guy yourself where its instinctually ingrained in you.

Anonymous No. 203241

>>199236
A question like this can’t be definitively answers without knowing the full context of the fight your in. If you’re just talking about winning the fight in general then yes whoever lands the first one or two good shots is usually the guy who wins a street fight. However, you have to consider that sucker punching a guy can land you in jail and usually looks worse in a court room. That’s not to say it’s NEVER justified, but again it depends on the context.

Anonymous No. 203379

>>199236
>is it better to throw the first punch or counter?
The best punch is the one that hits. If the fight has started, you want to land that one before your opponent does.

Anonymous No. 203402

>>199236
you should shoot a double and control

Anonymous No. 205848

>>199236
Legally speaking, use of force is only granted if your safety or the safety of another is in clear and direct danger.