🧵 Defendo, legit or total BS?
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 13:06:34 UTC No. 199760
I see Defendo places around me, from their descriptions it seems like Krav Maga but with more focus on unarmed fighting, on their website it says their bases are taken from Muay Thai and catch wrestling.
How effective is this? Why would someone learn defendo over just going to a regular old MMA gym?
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 13:20:30 UTC No. 199763
>>199760
It's more for security work, as far as I've understood it. It's more trying to control the situation until you have the dominant control, and then de-escalation if needed. They at least used to be about control holds, reining someone out of the bar/into the police car/down to the ground, and so on. And not just one-on-one fights, but how to take control of someone if you have a partner on your side.
If the places around you have live resistance training, then go and check them out.
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 14:01:36 UTC No. 199767
>>199760
>defendo
judging by its name, it is bullshit
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 14:36:52 UTC No. 199773
>"exotic" inventor/instructor name
>catch wrestling base
>English word with vaugely Asian martial art suffix
How much for his entire VHS catalog?
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 15:48:18 UTC No. 199792
>>199760
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dc
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 15:54:01 UTC No. 199794
>>199773
that'll be $499 plus tip
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 16:16:13 UTC No. 199797
>>199773
What's wrong with catch wrestling?
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 16:41:43 UTC No. 199800
>>199760
Okay, it's clearly some aikido level bullshit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wn
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 16:46:20 UTC No. 199802
>>199797
No one claiming it as a base for something else has ever been telling the truth.
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 17:05:07 UTC No. 199807
>>199797
There's nothing wrong with catch wrestling as a martial art. The problem is legit catch places are few and far between. There's a lot of weirdos and charlatans who claim catch wrestling backgrounds but have dubious credentials. If they're not from a handful of verified catch gyms, odds are they're grifters or just hipsters.
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 17:09:56 UTC No. 199809
>>199807
I mean that's true for every style except maybe wrestling.
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 17:23:59 UTC No. 199811
>>199760
Are the places near you actually Jyrki Saario Defendo, or Canadian Defendo, or Scandinavian defendo, or some other defendo?
For some reason, there's multiple defendo martial arts, that have little to nothing to do with each other.
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 17:39:43 UTC No. 199814
>>199811
It's actually Jyrki Saario Defendo.
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 17:40:21 UTC No. 199815
>>199760
>Why would someone learn defendo over just going to a regular old MMA gym?
I don't know. Just learn a combat sport, or at least something that has realistic training and some connection to combat sports (students that compete, coaches that teach students to compete). A connection to competition helps weed out the bullshit, and the types of people attracted to combat sports are more likely to be competent and knowledgeable.
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 17:56:51 UTC No. 199819
>>199800
>the whole video is just static "demonstrations"
number 1 sign that you're being taught a glorified choreography. OP go learn something better.
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jun 2024 18:16:13 UTC No. 199824
>>199760
Anything with as retarded of a name as “defendo” is going to teach something equally retarded. I can’t believe I still have to tell people this in the age of the internet but just learn a legit combat sport and you’ll be far better off than any RBSD LARPer faggot.
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 12:57:00 UTC No. 199893
>>199815
>>199824
Combat sports are an important aspect of training but if you're not also exploring defense scenarios outside a competition setting and with weapons you're going to have some blind spots.
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 13:43:08 UTC No. 199894
>>199893
That's a fair point. Not like there's anything wrong with learning that stuff on top of it all. I'm just skeptical that Defendo in particular is the best way to learn defense scenarios or weapons.
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 14:21:39 UTC No. 199896
>>199894
Jyrki Saario appears to be from a combat sport background so it at least seems plausible that his system could be reasonable. I'm completely unfamiliar with it, however, and therefore share your skepticism.
https://www.defendo-usa.com/about-u
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jun 2024 14:32:15 UTC No. 199897
>>199809
The difference is there's millions of practitioners of other martial arts, but the number of bonafide catch wrestlers numbers in the low thousands at most. Online though it seems like a million from every rando claiming to be a catch wrestler.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 13:24:42 UTC No. 203185
So, did OP get some personal experience?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 18:48:11 UTC No. 203202
>>203185
No, I just signed up for boxing instead.
Anonymous at Sun, 11 Aug 2024 21:28:14 UTC No. 207411
>>199760
>Defendo
No self-respecting man would even consider doing something with such a goofy name.
Anonymous at Sun, 11 Aug 2024 22:01:25 UTC No. 207414
OP you should try my system Attacko. It's 100% effective and mogs Defendo.
Anonymous at Mon, 12 Aug 2024 20:26:37 UTC No. 207493
>>207414
Fucking kek
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Aug 2024 19:53:25 UTC No. 207575
>>207414
A good Attacko is the best Defendo.
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Aug 2024 20:56:31 UTC No. 207583
>>199760
who names their martial art after a harry potter spell
Anonymous at Wed, 14 Aug 2024 01:54:20 UTC No. 207613
>>207583
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defe
>Underwood had created Combato in 1910, at 15 years old
>Underwood was asked to modify the system to remove its lethal applications and instead focus on the Law Enforcement applications of self-defence, compliance and control tactics. He realized that he could not call this system Combato, so his daughter Pat Underwood proposed that he call the system "Defendo".
It makes sense after reading it's a twist on a name he came up with as a 15 year old.
Anonymous at Wed, 14 Aug 2024 03:15:31 UTC No. 207624
>>207613
Combato is what happens when an unstoppable Attacko meets an unassailable Defendo.
Anonymous at Wed, 14 Aug 2024 23:35:24 UTC No. 207684
>>207613
>at 15 years old I created my own lethal combat system
This is Frank Dux tier
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 21:38:25 UTC No. 213702
>>199760
By the name alone, bullshit
Anonymous at Fri, 18 Oct 2024 02:47:55 UTC No. 213792
>>199797
Anyone actually good at submission grappling is doing BJJ