๐งต What is the safest martial art to train in?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 04:20:57 UTC No. 203250
I have done Taekwondo and Judo. In both arts people got injured pretty regularly, sometimes very seriously. I am getting old (I'm in my mid 30s) and don't want any more injuries. What is best martial art style for me to train in?
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 04:21:38 UTC No. 203251
>I am getting old (I'm in my mid 30s)
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 04:54:29 UTC No. 203259
>>203251
as far as sports go you're pretty cooked by then
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 06:13:44 UTC No. 203271
>>203251
Iโm not even 30 yet and Iโve taken an absurd amount of injuries that are starting to affect my quality of life in my late twenties.
Fuck off faggot. You clearly never fought hard enough at the age you were supposed to if this is what you think.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 11:59:34 UTC No. 203281
Any martial art is safe if you don't go hard. If you stick to drills and very light sparring, you're unlikely to injure yourself
Realistically though, that most likely disqualifies wrestling, MT, boxing, kickboxing and MMA because those tend to be quite "serious".
Judo and BJJ should be fine if you can set clear boundaries on how hard you want to go or if you only spar with the older guys. Besides that, traditional martial arts, if you warm up well and don't do overly flashy, explosive shit.
Importantly, this all depends on the gym culture. The more competitive a gym is and the lower the average age, the more likely you are to get injured, whereas a gym populated mostly by the middle-aged accountant dad types will likely be pretty chill unless someone has some serious ego problems
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 12:41:20 UTC No. 203282
From a rules perspective, TKD was probably your safest bet as far as standardized contact styles. As stated above plenty of things can be done safely, but it's nearly entirely up to the idiots doing it.
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Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 20:43:17 UTC No. 203321
capoeira, is an brazilian martial art, capoeira usually isn't so violent
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:50:44 UTC No. 203337
>>203250
Judo (and TKD) shouldn't be bad if you step back from competition, find a good gym culture, and stay in good physical condition. I plan on doing judo for as long as I'm physically able to grip a gi.
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jul 2024 13:22:19 UTC No. 205084
>>203259
Yeah if you want to be a competitive professional athlete
Other than sports like golf
But noncompetitive you can do pretty much anything into your fifties if you're not an impatient dipshit
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jul 2024 15:39:37 UTC No. 205093
>>203250
Probably a cultural/historical art, like a koryu school of kenjitsu or jujutsu, or Filipino martial arts, or something. Something that only does kata or patterns.
I'm not knocking this at all btw, I honestly think very old trad martial arts are fascinating.
As far as combat sport, probably jiujitsu. There's a lot you can do to dictate the pace, including but not limited to just choosing to roll with other chill guys and avoiding hotheads. Even if you are rolling with an enthusiastic young guy, you can learn how to slow him down and avoid bad positions. And hey, if you are in a bad spot, like he's stacking you and trying to feed you your own dick, just stop and reset.
You could also find a good boxing or muay thai coach to run you through pad drills and bag work, plus maaaaaybe some light sparring.
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jul 2024 16:03:04 UTC No. 205095
>>203250
>>203281
>Any martial art is safe if you don't go hard. If you stick to drills and very light sparring, you're unlikely to injure yourself
>depends on the gym culture
This is a good reply.
Your goals and risk tolerance have to align for this to work. If you have competitive aspirations, you'll need to face the risk of injury. If you just want to develop some skill and have fun, you can get away with just drilling and light sparring with TRUSTED partners.
Your injury risk can be mitigated by lifting weights, stretching, and proper recovery (sleep, stretching, eating)
Anonymous at Thu, 25 Jul 2024 23:40:25 UTC No. 205119
>>205093
>jujitsu
Out of the time I've been training Boxing, BJJ and MMA, I've received the most and frequent and worst injuries from BJJ, followed not even closely by Boxing and finally I have not yet been injured by MMA.
BJJ every gym goes balls to the wall 110% in rolling for some fucking reason, boxing is usually controlled but occasionally people get overexcited and MMA is usually done by hobbyist programmers who lack the physical capacity/training focus to hurt you or comp guys who want to avoid injuries.
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Jul 2024 15:44:48 UTC No. 205159
>>205119
What's the primary demographic of your gym?
Men aged 18-30 are the group most likely to fight to the death in every roll because they want to get good fast and win medals
Older guys will probably be more chill.
And all that aside, you can always ask your partner to go lighter because you're worried about an injury. Any reasonable guy will respect this, if they don't, just don't roll with them again
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:57:26 UTC No. 205952
There is no safe martial art. At some point, you're gonna deal with hard knocks and injured joints on some level. You just have to minimize the chances and practice carefully.
I've boxed for over 9 years since I turned 18. I only spar once a week because I don't want brain damage and I always wear protective gear. I mostly do padwork and hit the bags.
I did judo when I started college. Luckily it hasn't taken a toll on my body and I actually prefer doing groundfighting. My instructor also cross-trained in BJJ so I spend more time on the newaza classes so I'm 70% ground; 30% stand-up now. Even then, I wear a mouthguard (I've seen a guy get a chipped tooth) and wear ear guards (don't want cauliflower ears since I also wrestled in high school).
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 15:11:54 UTC No. 205958
>>203251
mid 30s is biologically middle age
average man lives to be 70-80 years old this is discounting chemical abuse and exposure, developed or contracted diseases (cancer, polio, etc), loss of limbs, dying of unnatural causes(getting shot) and suicidal tendencies which falls into the previous listed thing.
he has about 35-40 more years left of his life.
if he's 35 now
in 35 years he'll he old enough to die of natural causes
so yes, he is biologically old
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 15:22:27 UTC No. 205963
>>203271
not that anon
i did bjj for a couple months
the professor i had was a massive shit head who would force you to fight even if you were visibly dehydrated
or extremely tired
i learned fast and was able to keep up with coloreds
After i quit i had joint pain for months
i can only imagine how bad injuries and pain gets as you get older
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 16:00:10 UTC No. 205977
>>205963
I bet he was bald
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 16:11:08 UTC No. 205983
>>205977
he was balding yeah kel
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 16:12:09 UTC No. 205984
>>205983
>kel
kek*
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Aug 2024 23:32:30 UTC No. 206034
>>205952
>I've seen a guy get a chipped tooth
It is me I am a guy. Get this fixed right away if it happens or you might end up needing much more expensive dental work later (root canal, etc.). I always wear a mouthguard now.
Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 14:14:00 UTC No. 211265
>>203282
Having done my ACL in TKD years back I can confirm that this isn't the case
Unless OP stuck to a very non-pivoting style or something
Anonymous at Thu, 19 Sep 2024 20:44:43 UTC No. 211340
>>203250
>What is the safest martial art to train in?
Probably benchrest shooting.
>What is best martial art style for me to train in?
Judo. If you're getting seriously injured regularly you're doing something wrong.
Anonymous at Sat, 28 Sep 2024 01:04:49 UTC No. 212106
>>203250
Tai Chi and Yoga with the other elderly people.
Anonymous at Fri, 15 Nov 2024 03:40:20 UTC No. 215897
>>211265
This. I stopped sparring outside of recreation in my early early twenties due to how much TKD when trained to compete destroys your hips and knees. Teaching now I know some 18 year old guys who I see walking with a limp more often than not.
If you find some poomsae focused school and don't do much sparring sure but this is a thread about fighting specifically so if you're doing that in TKD just think logically about what a fast, kick focused style will do if you get knocked down in the middle of a pivoting move. ACL damage, Meniscus tears, etc are all very common in TKD.
Honestly the question in the OP is flawed. If you want to train a martial art for the express purpose of fighting and self defense you will risk injury. If you're getting up there in years and worry about injury, it's best to focus on technique and physical fitness rather than trying to fight some 18 year old 6'7 guy who hasn't torn anything in his life.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 01:32:28 UTC No. 215950
I went to judo age 30. First day they made us do summersaults across the gym with no instruction. I must have done it wrong because I pulled a neck/trap muscle real bad and had to leave, couldn't even turn my head. Never went back. Not worth it.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 01:44:18 UTC No. 215952
>>215950
Yeah judo is pretty gay like that
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 05:46:56 UTC No. 215958
>>215950
How do you mess up somersaults that badly? Have you been completely sedentary for the past thirty years?
>>215952
If he's talking about basic rolls (somersaults that don't leave the ground) those are common enough warmups for judo and wrestling that I've seen uncoordinated previously-sedentary children and fat old men complete without issue. If he's talking about forward rolling breakfalls those are essential to practice and for normal people are more of an injury prevention activity than an injury causing activity.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 07:25:07 UTC No. 215959
>>215958
I'm anti-warmup
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 14:28:48 UTC No. 215974
>>215958
I powerlift, but that makes me very inflexible. My neck was tight and not warmed up, so one of the rolls stretched it too far
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 15:15:30 UTC No. 215975
>>215974
You should probably fix that so you don't have to worry about falling out of bed wrong.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 15:34:05 UTC No. 215979
>>215974
>>215958
>>215950
Lol I had the same experience as that guy. Went to judo first time. Older guy. They just said do warmup with the rest (forward roll and backwards roll)
They didn't explain backwards roll and I tried rolling on my neck and sprained it. Never went back lol
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Nov 2024 18:42:52 UTC No. 215990
Beginners require beginner classes, if the place doesn't offer beginner classes it's a bad place
They aren't taking the business seriously either through laziness that they don't want to God forbid work an extra 45 minutes once or twice a week or worse yet are egotripping and want to he tuffgais happy a lot of people can't make the cut
They mistake the survivor bias of them being terrible at explaining things and equate it to the difficulty of the task, celebrating that most people can't handle "the real deal"
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 22:15:30 UTC No. 216145
>>205119
bjj is retard martial art
>FUCK YEAH I BROKE MY LEG IN A LEG LOCK
>*ranks*
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Nov 2024 22:17:19 UTC No. 216147
>>215990
beginner classes are never gonna be a thing
that's why you choose an older martial art that has already been refined and has some form of drilling
like judos uchi komis
bjj doesnt have that
you're just expected to master it right away