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🧵 At what point does height stop mattering in combat sports?

Anonymous No. 207682

For example Conor Mcgregor got absolutely humiliated by Hafthor, but would a 6 foot trained fighter get brutally mogged by a 7 foot guy, or a 6'4" guy get brutally mogged by a 7'4" guy? Surely at some point there's diminishing returns due to the square cube law and also the kind of genetic disorders that cause Guiness Book of World Records level tall people to die early and be very frail. So what height is the cutoff? And what height is the ideal?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aaehn1aY8Ig

Anonymous No. 207692

>>207682
How exactly was macgregor humiliated in this video?

Anonymous No. 207699

5'6" is the ideal male height as long as you widemaxx

Anonymous No. 207717

>>207692
what's your height?

Anonymous No. 207750

>>207717
>no answer
Got it, it’s a bait thread

Anonymous No. 207757

>>207682
Never. Height, weight, and reach advantages will always be advantages. It's true that a healthy giant is a rarity, and a healthy giant with the physique and the mindset to become a professional fighter is even rarer, but it isn't impossible. I suspect that as medical technology and sports science continues to improve, we shall see more supergiant fighters in the years and decades to come.

Anonymous No. 207758

>>207717
5'5

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Anonymous No. 207793

>>207682
It's always going to matter, but weight is the bigger factor. Mike Tyson is only 5'10'' for example. The shortest heavyweight boxing champion was Tommy Burns, at 5'7''. Though that was back in the early 20th century. He was also the only Canadian world heavyweight champion. Surprisingly, not the lightest heavyweight champ, that was Bob Fitzsimmons at 167 lbs.

Anonymous No. 207877

Igor Vovchanchyn used to heem dudes that were 6'6 and 300 pounds while he himself was 5'8. Dwight Qawi was a 5'6 boxing heavyweight. Being smaller is definitely a disadvantage but you can at least hang with the big boys if you're at least 200lbs.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 207883

>>207682
Because strength actually matters a ton in comparison to what many bjj and martial artists in general say. Give a powerlifter enough time and he will start beating people
especially if you him in a position where said powerlifter HAS to learn fast

Strength and technique > Being a boastful shit head and technique

if a world war were to break out the first people to go are gonna be the people that think they're excellent fighters because their professor/sensei said so
the hot headed bjj black belt with a short fuse etc.
They're all gonna be the first to go.

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Anonymous No. 208290

>>207793
>>207877
If that's the case, why are wide dudes looked upon with ridicule instead of with primal fear? Why arent tree trunk thighs or wide torsos considered as aesthetically pleasing as an adonis belt or six pack abs?

Anonymous No. 208298

>>207682
6'10" is about cutoff line. Height past that usually associated with disorders in the body. And this height there would be already much non balanced men,

Anonymous No. 208317

>>208290
because beauty standards play biological role in mating

Anonymous No. 208325

>>208290
Nobody looks at a guy like that and thinks "Haha, look at Shrek over there, I'd easily beat him". It's not a pretty build and it isn't one that a twink can get if he just spends enough time at the gym, but everyone who sees it knows there's power there.

Anonymous No. 208328

>>208325
you over estimate the average persons ability to judge and guage a situation, highly over estimate.
The average person may as well be a retard when it comes to determining if someone is strong, weak, good or bad

Anonymous No. 208342

>>207682
Halfthor has to pump himself full of ungodly amounts of roids to maintain that mass. A 6" pro annihilates him.

If you let Halfthor roid with impunity to keep his muscles, you have to let the pro fighter too. And let them bulk up.

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Anonymous No. 208416

>>208325
This >>208328, the average person would absolutely look at someone like >>208290 and be like lol I can totally take that chubby george costanza looking manlet

>>208317
Some beauty standards make sense for combat, like broad shoulders or big hands and wrists, but what exactly is the evolutionary reason to want twinks?

>>208298
Thank you for actually answering my question. I've always wondered if Robert Wadllow had bulked up and trained if he would absolutely wreck everyone else alive

>>208342
Dont pro fighters already roid like crazy? There are instances where pro fighters bulk up and challenge weight classes above the ones full of guys their height like Qawi but most don't. I do wonder how good bulkmaxxed Mayweather or Pacqiao or McGregor would be

Anonymous No. 208701

>>208416
>Some beauty standards make sense for combat, like broad shoulders or big hands and wrists, but what exactly is the evolutionary reason to want twinks?

lookism is also a biological thing.
Best observation is phrenology which can be observed irl.
Many people think that a good looking person must be a good person when the opposite could he equally as true.
There have been many good looking serial killers and psychos and vice versa

so, with fhat said, the biological need for someone to look like a twink could be similar to a form of parastism. Why work as hard when you can use your looks to get with someone who can provide for you?

Women that genuinely desire someone will do anything for them and the same applies for men.
Men that go after the guy who slept with their girlfriend instead of being pissed at their girlfriend are a good example of "doing anything" they desire them so much they're willing to kill to be the only option for them.

Anonymous No. 208702

>>208701
>parastism
parasitism
sorry phone posting

Anonymous No. 209398

>>208416
>but what exactly is the evolutionary reason to want twinks
young healthy people have healthy kids plopped out
also part of parental instincts crossing over

like guys wanting big boobs because evolutionary perspective says that denotes fertility, but also because deep down their inner babby child want the comfort of suckling them

Anonymous No. 209530

>>207682
>height
Hafthor is over 400 pounds all of the time
Do you think height is the deciding factor when Conor is less than half that weight?

Anonymous No. 209551

>>207682
Height and reach will never stop being important. Weight stops being important when the height and reach are hindered by reduced mobility.

If someone was 5 meters tall and proportional they would be unstoppable in the UFC. Someone who was 10 meters tall would definitively trounce then though.

Watch some Godzilla, big thing is scary thing.

Anonymous No. 209615

>>209551
>doesn't know about square cube law

Anonymous No. 209638

>>209615
You realize that dinosaurs existed, right? The size that a human would have to get to before it comes incompetent enough to fall victim to a human half it's height is absurb. Volume ratios are not the issue here.

Anonymous No. 209781

>>209530
becareful you're gonna piss off the bjj artists. They think strength and weight doesnt matter

Anonymous No. 209915

>>208416
you have to take prefered style of fighting into the equation. mayweather wouldnt gain any advantage from bulking up, he wants to be quick on his feet above all else. he wants to avoid punches, not take them better (this has dimishing returns anyways) or punch back harder

Anonymous No. 212134

>>208701
Except physiognomy is legit, a beautiful person is much more likely to have noble qualities than an ugly person

Anonymous No. 214570

>>208416
> what is the evolutionary reason to want twinks

There is no evolutionary reason, but if you want one, then it's because twinks look young = virile. People think that youth is only important to female attraction, but no such thing.

Beside, they look like beatifl statues, noble and sublime too. Aristocratic type of beauty.

Anonymous No. 214571

>>208701
>so, with fhat said, the biological need for someone to look like a twink could be similar to a form of parastism.

This is why lookism is a disease. When you try to use autism to try to analye why something is hapenning, it leads you down the complete nonsense.

> good lookign person must be a good person when opposite could be equally true

How many bad people that are good looking are there though? Statisticaly, probably not many. Not to mention, ugly people who are also bad people are very common.

Not because of phrenology thing or anything, but because they often lead the type of life that ruins their bodies,looks and health.

Not to mention certain biological factors.

Anonymous No. 214572

>>209638
Dinosaurs had completely different respiratoral and cardiovascular system and skeletal system to mammals, one that we are not capable of evolving.

Nor humans nor mammals are dinosaurs, retard.

Anonymous No. 214574

>>212134
Dats rayciss

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Anonymous No. 214669

>>214571
I dont even remember what i typed 2 months ago or the mindset i was in.

Anonymous No. 214672

>>214669
Hell it's a miracle is the head sensei shows me a throw at judo and i remember it the next week.
I barely remember shit from a few minutes ago

Anonymous No. 214801

>>212134
I can tell you've never dated a beautiful woman

Anonymous No. 215051

>>214801
Women aren't people

Anonymous No. 215057

>>215051
You’ve never dated a beautiful twink

Anonymous No. 215065

>>215057
twinks have a shorter shelf life than women