🧵 Ultimate Self-Defense Championship Season 2
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 12:55:41 UTC No. 210553
First episode is out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCs
>What is the Ultimate Self-Defense Championship?
A bit over a year ago, former Aikidoka YouTuber Rokas Leo set up a tournament with a self-defense "academy" to have himself and five other martial arts YouTubers compete to see who is best at self-defense. It was a hilarious shitshow that nearly crippled one of the contestants, Ramsey Dewey who would later get into an internet spat with the guy behind the academy (Jeff Phillips) and described the entire event as "piss poor" due to poor management, an incoherent and arbitrary scoring system, running on a very limited schedule, and timing events terribly (like having a zombie apocalypse-themed event that didn't influence score in the middle of the entire thing instead of at the end or something) and doing comically dangerous shit like making people fight on a narrow bridge a good 30ft above the ground.
Somehow, he kickstarted a second one, which features even less martial arts YouTubers.
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 12:57:39 UTC No. 210554
The contestants this time around include:
>Natan Levy
Israeli lightweight in UFC, last year had some popularity due to getting into a sparring match with a groyper who hated Jews.
>Jeff "MMAShredded" Chan
Winner of the previous USDC, pretty much the only contestant who was an active fighter in an MMA promotion instead of a 40-50+ coach/trainer or schlubby dilettante YouTuber.
>Jesse "The Karate Nerd" Enkamp
Owner of the KarateByJesse blog and now YouTuber, Jesse is a high-ranking Swedish Karateka, bullshido believer, and Karate historian. Probably the second most autistic man in this show next to Rokas himself.
>Jordan "Jordan Teaches Jiu-Jitsu" Preisinger
Smaller name YouTuber focused on BJJ-related content. Of the YouTubers listed, is the least popular, but is also a completely normal guy.
>Ranton
French-German video game reviewer. Is only on the show because there's not a lot of popular martial arts YouTubers who humored Rokas and because he studied at Shaolin Temple in his early 20s and does some kung fu drills at home. Claims to be Chinese, barely speaks the language lmao.
>Craig Hunter
Literally just a guy. He's a filler because a basketball player Instagram influencer who was gonna be at the event flaked, and Rokas needed someone so he just picked a regular dude to work as a "controL" compared to the guys with martial arts backgrounds. His background is the occasional bit of weightlifting and typical bogan barfighting.
Rokas "Martial Arts Journey" Leo will not be participating as a contestant this season and instead serves as a commentator/referee/committee
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 13:27:34 UTC No. 210556
>>210555
That's the American division. This shit's set in Australia, everyone's a noguns. The very first challenge is "What'll you do if you're chased by a pack of Abbos with knives and they wanna fuck that rotisserie chicken you're holding?"
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 13:34:51 UTC No. 210558
>>210556
>"What'll you do if you're chased by a pack of Abbos with knives and they wanna fuck that rotisserie chicken you're holding?"
i pull out my pocket drop bear and throw it at them
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 15:04:14 UTC No. 210562
>>210553
>Israel
>War with Hamas
>The only reason I can think of is because I'm a jew
This is shit
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 18:30:31 UTC No. 210587
>>210553
I am a little disappointed, you would think he would have redesigned some stuff after ruining Ramsey's knee. I am curious now, maybe his 1 year wait was not due to long covid but simply because he was sued for another injury and did not want to release it as long as someone could use the material in court?
Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 19:19:30 UTC No. 210591
>>210587
All participants were sent the footage of everything well before the originally intended release of the USDC back in April, with the idea they could make their own content with it. If any of it would be material evidence, then it wouldn't matter that Rokas didn't air it.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 00:49:05 UTC No. 210609
DUDE SELF DEFENSE PEN LMAO
way to just pollute this entire "experiement" with that shit
dude, you need to improvise weapons!!! except in america I carry my own so they can fuck off with that shit
also we know jordans knee gets fucked up early on and he's basically out of the comp, he talked about it on his podcast
secondly jeff didn't "bleed out" from getting poked in the back like that, there was no organ near that wound that would've killed him
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 00:59:03 UTC No. 210610
>>210609
They're gonna do everything possible to not let Jeff Chan win a second time. The first time basically humiliated the entire fucking event because it verified the thesis statement that existed well before Rokas planned for the USDC: "If you don't have a gun and running isn't an option, training in mixed martial arts will be the most advantageous thing you'll have." They already scrambled to find ways to deduct points from him in multiple events last time and he still won because he was competing against geriatrics, a schlubby daycare teacher, and Rokas Leo who has gone on record multiple times about how often he'd been shoved into lockers growing up.
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 01:00:40 UTC No. 210612
Next season: Jon Jones joins the USDC (guess who wins :O)
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 04:13:04 UTC No. 210639
>>210610
don't sleep on jesse with this and he proved it, I'd say he's the dark horse because hes really big and showed he's down to party with that first game
Anonymous at Wed, 11 Sep 2024 12:35:28 UTC No. 210652
>>210639
Jesse also trains in MMA. He talks up doing only karate but that's because his internet persona is mostly a character, the man behind the nerd is in fact someone who puts a lot of work into being a proper all-rounder because he has to be able to help train his brother who's fought in several MMA promotions.
Also pretty much every time he sparred with anyone from either season, he quite frankly beat the fucking shit out of them. He just doesn't make a big deal out of it because that's not his "job" so to speak.
Anonymous at Thu, 12 Sep 2024 16:47:19 UTC No. 210731
>>210612
The street light he crashes against and the girl passed out in the backseat
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Sep 2024 07:35:08 UTC No. 210787
I feel like these people hate each other irl.
Anonymous at Fri, 13 Sep 2024 14:30:59 UTC No. 210800
All the padding + the implicit agreement that they're not trying to knock each other the fuck out for a YouTube video kind makes this useless as an actual display of martial ability.because everything devolves into half-assed grappling. Season 1 had the same issue.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 20:50:32 UTC No. 210931
>jesse
lol what?
If they picked him as bait... is working bc I am actually intrigued.
Anonymous at Sat, 14 Sep 2024 21:07:08 UTC No. 210932
>>210553
How am I supposed to know which one is jewish?
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 11:47:31 UTC No. 211016
The strategies they employed in the first challenge seem so poorly planned, I wouldn't be surprised if they were told what to do just to show why those choices wouldn't work. The fact that the professional fighter decided to square up against 5 armed attackers by himself and the bjj fighter specifically decided to run while wearing shitty footwear and Jesse going out of his way to use the sponsored Self Defense Pen, it all seems artificial.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 16:53:04 UTC No. 211048
>>211016
A reality show contest might be fake???? But that only happens on tv!!!!
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 17:01:57 UTC No. 211049
>>211016
the self defense pen is a dumb way to try and skirt knife statutes because they're always worded in a way to generally outlaw the use of sharp objects not just knives explicitly as an example "a sharp implement with the intent to use as a weapon"
at that point just carry a fucking knife
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 19:46:12 UTC No. 211070
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0U
New ep link
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 20:08:17 UTC No. 211074
>>211070
>Craig left at the first fight
>Left the retard friend alone so he wouldn't keep getting into trouble
Literally the smartest person in this challenge is the fucking average Australian man
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 20:19:20 UTC No. 211076
>>211074
>The same bogan who definitely got into barfights IRL immediately knew to demand a lawyer
>The fucking Jew also figured this out and then decided to wait for a bit and make noise to psyche out everyone else
If nothing else, this is a much funnier season.
(I know Ranton also called for a lawyer but he was tragically unfunny this episode so I don't care)
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 20:28:02 UTC No. 211077
Current score. The MMA champs are being punked by a Regular Guy. Jeff is probably rigged so he doesn't win twice in a row but Natan has no fucking excuse, he's IDF and UFC. All this proves to me is that Australians are the strongest life-forms.
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 21:54:29 UTC No. 211084
>>211074
he's a student of the guy running this whole thing, he's been through all these exercises before and knows the answers to the test and what he's looking for
it's total bullshit honestly
I find it entertaining, but it's silly the way these combatives people go through life paranoid and afraid of everything
"he lost points because he turned his back to a potential attacker at the bar"
if you're that afraid to be outside then you should never leave your house, seriously
Anonymous at Sun, 15 Sep 2024 22:48:00 UTC No. 211087
>>211077
Jeff had top tier fighting skills in the bar but made self defense mistakes.
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Sep 2024 08:01:30 UTC No. 211112
>>211087
>>211077
The scoring was so stupid. Jeff beat the absolute piss out of everybody and basically came away unharmed, but he almost got last because of some arbitrary bullshit that ruled he used "excessive force" and nitpicky nonsense like turning his back to a guy for 0.2 seconds. BJJ guy did not but cling to the attackers and got his shit stomped but somehow scored better.
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Sep 2024 10:42:54 UTC No. 211115
meh, i liked the first season because of the fact that all of the contenders knew each other and had done a lot of collaboration before, so there was great chemistry
not feeling it for this season
Anonymous at Mon, 16 Sep 2024 14:43:04 UTC No. 211122
>>211112
also he preemptively attacked people who were drugging peoples drinks
all that says is he had good instinct
every person he struck first was going to harm him, he didn't attack a single innocent bystander
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Sep 2024 06:11:08 UTC No. 211181
>>210553
>JEFF CHAN HEROICALLY FOUGHT AN ARMY OF 72625141894863 MEN
>HE KILLED EVERY SINGLE ONE WITH HIS BARE HANDS
>HOWEVER HE TOOK A SUPERFICIAL BLOW ON HIS FINGER AND FAILED TO FURTHER ADVERTIZE OUR SPONSORED SELF DEFENSE DILDO
>-999171983736891 points
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Sep 2024 11:47:31 UTC No. 211186
>Ultimate Self-Defense Championship
>Jeff becomes the aggressor
>loses points
>chaners cry
Why?
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Sep 2024 14:19:38 UTC No. 211191
>>211186
>someone tries to poison you
>take point away for beating his and every other attackers ass
It’s very clear this is rigged to make sure Jeff doesn’t win again
>muh excessive force
Kill yourself
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Sep 2024 14:32:44 UTC No. 211192
>>211191
>someone tries to poison you
Not only did he not know, he did not punch the poisoner first - he just punched a guy who was disagreeing with him. He was just channeling his inner nigger.
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Sep 2024 15:12:37 UTC No. 211196
>>211192
>he just inched the guy who was predestined by the competition to start a fight with him
>this is bad because he read the scenario too early
What innocent bystander did Jeff chan hurt?
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Sep 2024 15:27:44 UTC No. 211199
>>211196
The dude arguing with him was innocent. All he did was get mad his booze was spilled like anyone would do. That is not behavior that warrants swinging your fists like a nigger. Natan, who is a neurotic Israeli who has been actually shot at before in a warzone, didn't even hit the point of niggardry to start winging first on either of them, he just knew to avoid them.
Anonymous at Tue, 17 Sep 2024 19:30:58 UTC No. 211212
>>210553
I wish that instead of mostly having people who all have trained MMA they would actually have specialists and some more common martial arts too. Have a pure boxer vs pure wrestler vs pure judoka vs MMA etc.
It would give this more of a fun ufc1 what is the best martial art vibe.
Also, this season seems like it will have the same problem where they aren't all in the same weight class, so the bigger guys have a massive advantage.
Also the Craig guy is obviously not just some random untrained dude.
Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 00:07:11 UTC No. 211226
I can't believe this FUCKER Rokas is releasing this weekly after delaying it for so fucking long.
Jeff Chan isn't even trying, so it's obviously going to be Natan who wins (unless the "totally average guy" who's done all these drills before wins on points). All there is to look forward to is Ranton getting his ass kicked.
Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 02:44:35 UTC No. 211235
>>211199
he pressed him though which is all the legal justification you need to hit someone
"I felt I was in danger" you don't need to actually wait for someone to hit you
Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 08:48:32 UTC No. 211250
>>211248
>bjj guy
there's your answer
Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 09:15:36 UTC No. 211251
>>210610
Why would an MMA fighter winning humiliate the entire event when the entire gimmick of Rokas, the guy running the show, and his channel is "I learnt Aikido and it doesn't work in combat, I'm learning MMA now". And pretty much all of the martial artists invited to Season 2 have also trained in MMA.
Anonymous at Wed, 18 Sep 2024 23:09:58 UTC No. 211297
>>211251
Because the guy who Rokas is contracting for the event, Jeff Phillips, genuinely hates MMA. There was a spat between him and Ramsey Dewey earlier this year over it and how they kept making shit up to deduct points from Jeff Chan last year and he still won by a large margin. Philips very pointedly hates MMA because if people just train MMA, people won't pay for his combatives courses.
Anonymous at Fri, 20 Sep 2024 16:07:51 UTC No. 211377
Watching episode 1 now, Jeff and Jesse surprised me, took 4 guys down rather easily
Anonymous at Fri, 20 Sep 2024 16:18:29 UTC No. 211380
Jeff is sabotaging himself come on
Anonymous at Fri, 20 Sep 2024 16:36:13 UTC No. 211382
>the normal guy was the best one in the bar fight
Mental, no overthinking just normal stuff
Anonymous at Sat, 21 Sep 2024 09:24:41 UTC No. 211407
>>210800
This. This whole thing is just a meme larp
In reality if two guys who weigh the same as you want to beat you up, you're fucked
When one ties up with you and you're trying to deal with him, the other one will be throwing full on haymakers to your eye sockets and chin. You better be 140kg+ of muscle and fat in order to attempt to bully yourself out of that situation
MMA and grappling nerds get very cocky because of these gentleman's agreements during sparring
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 14:21:05 UTC No. 211471
>>210553
Why did they do so much better in the shank tank this time? Are last years contestants just frauds?
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 14:30:47 UTC No. 211473
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipf
Ranton's boxing is pretty okay for an inexperienced kung fu flippy boy who's never hit someone before.
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 14:32:26 UTC No. 211474
>>211471
They saw last year's shank tank and knew more of what to expect. That's about it.
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 14:32:45 UTC No. 211475
>Jeff chan kicks somebody in the head that's running straight at him with his chin exposed
>nothing
>Ranton gives a guy a sloppy hook
>"yeah, that's a knockout stop the fight"
Judging has got to be rigged right?
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 14:36:46 UTC No. 211477
>>211475
It was like 3 hooks one after the other to be fair.
Also, why didn't Jesse go for more disarms? I thought that was a big part of trad karate.
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 14:37:56 UTC No. 211478
>>211477
I was surprised by that, given he showed one off in the Hide & Go Stab event that he even made a Seagal joke about.
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 16:30:47 UTC No. 211495
>>211471
last year they used a marker
so effectively the attacker had a weightless knife that also had infinite and unknown length and mass that both exists when the attacker is stabbing them but does not exist when the defender tries to grab it
a marker isn't an analogue to a blade at all
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 16:48:09 UTC No. 211497
>>211473
16:00 lmao fucking combative larper learned whats up
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 17:16:03 UTC No. 211499
>>211475
See >>211297
They’re doing everything they can to keep Jeff from winning again because Jeff Philips is butthurt his commando larp scenarios are best handled by combat sport athletes
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 17:30:27 UTC No. 211502
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHh
Ranton did a reaction of the first two eps with Rokas.
Only reason I'm posting it is because Craig "Regular Guy" Hunter was, as confirmed by Ranton and Rokas here, a fucking bare knuckle fighter in prison. They straight up lied, they found Kimbogan Slice!
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 22:03:36 UTC No. 211538
>>211473
>Ranton's boxing is pretty okay for an inexperienced kung fu flippy boy who's never hit someone before.
I heard that shaolin monks learn modern boxing during their first year. It gives them something effective to defend themselves with and relatively quick to learn compared to their kung fu stuff.
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 22:18:25 UTC No. 211540
Fuck this show, I just want Based Craig to win
Anonymous at Sun, 22 Sep 2024 23:18:07 UTC No. 211548
>>211540
Good news for you then, they'll probably rig it in his favour cause he's a student of the self defense guy planning the challanges and he's literally done all these before.
Anonymous at Mon, 23 Sep 2024 01:44:43 UTC No. 211560
>>211502
>Natan hits a guy over the head with a broom
>He holds back so he doesn't kill the guy IRL
>attack is completely brushed off
>Ranton: That should've been a kill right?
>Rokas: well... I'd say yes
What a hack fraud
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 19:51:04 UTC No. 211952
Angry Manlet "Icy" Mike "Hard2Hurt" "Pedo Puncher" Pesesko did his own little react vid on the Shank Tank. Had similar commentary as to these threads, up to and including not giving a fuck about Jordan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_5
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 21:19:43 UTC No. 211972
>>211952
his pulling guard take is retarded
it only makes sense in the context of the shank tank or if the attacker is extremely uncommitted
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 21:41:11 UTC No. 211978
>>211972
>>211952
In real life, if you literally just laid down at the start of a fight like he did (wouldn't even call it pulling guard) you'd get stomped out Shogun Rua style, never mind the knife stuff. It's an extremely retarded thing to do.
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 22:01:27 UTC No. 211979
>>211978
The problem is that while they're wearing padded gear none of the people involved are going to play fair and accept that:
>yeah that kick would have knocked me out
or
>yeah I wouldn't be able to breathe/move my legs right now
Anonymous at Thu, 26 Sep 2024 23:17:50 UTC No. 211982
>>211978
there was that one video where the tactical fudd said if someone is coming at you with a knife and you don't have enough time to draw you should jump backwards to your back and then shoot
Anonymous at Fri, 27 Sep 2024 01:46:51 UTC No. 211991
>>211978
This. Midget Mike is either a retard or doing what he always does and taking the most contrarion take possible for engagement. Take your pick.
>>211952
>”pedo puncher”
lol wut? Did icy Mike actually slap a diddler around like he did ninja rob? If so I’ll respect him a lot more.
Anonymous at Fri, 27 Sep 2024 01:57:31 UTC No. 211992
>>211982
Which is completely retarded and no one has ever actually successfully done in real life ever. This is the kind of shit made up by “what if” crap made up by LARPers.
Here’s what you can do if someone is coming at you with a knife and you don’t have time to draw, you can try to close distance and control the weapon or you can try to run. Both options are bad. Getting jumped by someone with a weapon already out and on you before you can get your own is most of the time going to be a losing scenario (which is why people do it in the first place). No meme shit like falling down and drawing your gun is going to save you, practical hand to hand skills or good sprinting skills MIGHT.
Anonymous at Fri, 27 Sep 2024 05:21:38 UTC No. 212002
>>211992
I'd sparta kick and then draw
Anonymous at Fri, 27 Sep 2024 13:22:55 UTC No. 212017
>>211991
Ninja Ron IS the pedo, anon.
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 27 Sep 2024 16:15:16 UTC No. 212027
>Ramsey Dewey
>The last video I will ever make... about the Ultimate Self Defense Championship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZb
Anonymous at Sat, 28 Sep 2024 11:21:37 UTC No. 212153
>>210553
Shout out to Rokas, my man got taken to snap city by some autist throwing kani basami during sparring
I do have some respect for guys like him and Chadi who were aikidokas, realised it doesn't work, uploaded their experiments with it and then switched to more practical grappling styles. Imagine the number of aikidoka who realise it doesn't work but aren't brave enough to admit it because their friends think they can handle themselves in a fight
Anonymous at Sat, 28 Sep 2024 11:24:54 UTC No. 212155
>>210554
Having 'some guy' as a control is honestly a pretty good idea lol
Like if you're a kung fu guy who scores worse than an untrained rando it must really suck
Anonymous at Sat, 28 Sep 2024 11:35:14 UTC No. 212157
>>210652
I've heard people say his karate style was originally some obscure knockdown style his dad taught him, but is now more like a mix of the better elements of other styles
I can respect that, he seems to like karate but understands the limitations of muh tradition
Anonymous at Sat, 28 Sep 2024 11:36:33 UTC No. 212158
>>211226
Rokas got his shit fucked up pretty badly so probably delayed it to recover
Anonymous at Sat, 28 Sep 2024 23:26:54 UTC No. 212205
In 'Hide And Go Stab', was there a rule about needing to exit the building through a specific door? Because it seems way easier to slip out a different door or window and circle the building on the outside rather than outmaneuver 5 people in a hallway.
Anonymous at Sat, 28 Sep 2024 23:29:27 UTC No. 212206
I'm a bit surprised that everyone's plan for round 3 of the Shank Tank was to throw the bag at the attacker.
Anonymous at Sat, 28 Sep 2024 23:47:21 UTC No. 212211
>>212205
It's who's line is it anyway where the rules are made up and the points don't matter
Anonymous at Sun, 29 Sep 2024 00:15:23 UTC No. 212217
>>212206
I don't know if it would work, but couldn't you wrap the bag around your hand for extra protection and attempt to grab the weapon without getting cut? I think that shows up in various swordfighting manuals.
Anonymous at Sun, 29 Sep 2024 09:53:25 UTC No. 212252
>>212217
You'd probably just lose your fingers
Anonymous at Sun, 29 Sep 2024 14:35:50 UTC No. 212267
DINGDINGDING
NEW EP TONIGHT BOYS
Now they're being bouncers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F35
Anonymous at Sun, 29 Sep 2024 15:39:30 UTC No. 212270
>>212267
>Jordan quits due to knee injury
I see the USDC tradition is not the poop bus or the shank tank, but instead crippling knee injuries. Ramsey Dewey took one during the zombie event.
Anonymous at Sun, 29 Sep 2024 17:43:32 UTC No. 212275
>>212267
for the record being a bouncer is no longer self defense, you're now in a profession where you have to sometimes fight people
so this is a retarded game to play in a self defense challenge
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Sep 2024 00:17:08 UTC No. 212298
>>212270
Ramsey's was even worse since it meant nothing for the competition and was completely unplanned
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Sep 2024 00:18:11 UTC No. 212299
So is Ramsey Dewey's beef just with Jeff Phillips or the whole crew from the first edition?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Sep 2024 00:21:14 UTC No. 212301
This whole thing is so retarded. It would be far better to determine a sequence of challenges that are previously known by the people participating in it so they can actually plan to act, which you know, would be the ideal for anyone to do whenever they go to a new place. There should be more scenarios involving using the environment and items around you, and more elaborate non-combat scenarios too.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Sep 2024 00:30:47 UTC No. 212304
>>212299
Frankly I think this just made him hate the occident as a whole and prefer the glory of Communist China now.
Real answer: I think he just thinks Phillips is an arrogant retard. It should be noted he's barely done anything in a while besides a couple livestreams - which are stupidly long so I'm not going to flick through them to see if he's commented on the new season.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Sep 2024 08:08:05 UTC No. 212338
>>212267
Once again, a completely retarded challenge. First of all, even the dinkiest places usually have more than two security guys (in the US there's even legal requirements).
The likelihood of a bunch of disconnected 1 vs 1's breaking out simultaneously like that is also pretty much 0. Big fights do happen but they're virtually always concentrated to one place with group vs group, at which point the procedure if you're working security is to just get everyone not involved out and call the cops.
I wouldn't have a problem with this show if it was presented as "martial arts entertainment", but the self defense angle really opens up a lot of room for criticism.
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Oct 2024 01:15:31 UTC No. 212381
>>212217
HEMAfag here, yes cloak and sword works and is historically documented
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-p
Anonymous at Tue, 1 Oct 2024 14:41:26 UTC No. 212409
>>212338
This is true. When I was a bouncer at a seriously shitty club, we had a crew of about 10 guys just for security
and the cops would send a couple units when club closed because there were always fights in the parking lots, usually with fists but sometimes guns
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 01:40:34 UTC No. 212454
>>210554
>>212155
And yet Craig, despite not being a martial artist, has stayed in the top three for the entire competition. He even reached the number 1 spot for a short while.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 01:51:43 UTC No. 212459
>>211049
Impact tools like the self-defense knife, knuckleduster, or a kubotan are designed to not penetrate. These strike tools are basically so you can strike/punch without injuring your hand (in real life you won't have enough time to put on gloves). Basically, they are less effective than a knife but legal in areas where a knife isn't.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 01:51:48 UTC No. 212460
>>212454
Ranton outed that he's not really a "normal guy," and while not a practitioner of a typical martial art, was a bare knuckle fighter in prison for years a la Kimbo Slice. He has a longer fight record than half the fucking roster.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 01:57:50 UTC No. 212461
>>211471
>Why did they do so much better in the shank tank this time?
They made it more fair, this time if you struck the attacker really hard before he hit a vital, then you could win the round. In the first season, the attacker would get kneed full force in the face and just act like nothing happened and keep going.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 02:05:50 UTC No. 212462
>>212460
I wasn't talking about Ranton. I was talking about Craig Hunter. Who needs fancy techniques when you're the tallest, heaviest, and strongest guy in the room.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 02:07:14 UTC No. 212463
>>212462
I'm also talking about Craig Hunter. Ranton in a reaction stream with Rokas outright said Craig Hunter turned out to have been Kimbogan Slice.
>>211502
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 03:46:50 UTC No. 212473
>>212459
my contention is if you'd rather have a pen instead of an empty hand you suck at fighting, I'm not giving up my ability to grab for potshots
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 05:04:50 UTC No. 212477
>>212473
Some martial artists will disagree; they want to protect their metacarpals from breaking. Nice job moving the goalpost btw.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 08:14:22 UTC No. 212481
>>212381
that's not a bag and they aren't directly grabbing the sword.
They're mostly using it either to tangle the weapon or obscure their vision
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 09:27:37 UTC No. 212483
>>211049
In Australia (where this was filmed), it is never legal to have anything on your person for the purpose of self defence. Any weapon you use has to provably be a weapon of opportunity. A flashlight for instance, would be justified at night time but not in the middle of the day. An umbrella would be justified as long as it was was raining. A pen isn’t a terrible idea, because carrying one is always justifiable. But you’d need to have a notebook, that you actually regularly used, to make this work. Fortunately, a notebook is actually useful (for jotting down appointments, grocery and to do lists), and if you actually get into the habit of regularly using a pen, you’ll have it with you.
Only problem with the atomic bear. It’s designed as a self defence weapon, and therefore the police here can and will make the claim that carrying a device to cause harm to a person shows premonition. At the very least I’d paint over or scrape off any brand naming, but even then, the design gives a little too much away. Best to just look for solid metal pens. You’ll waste money trying them against targets, and hurt your hand if the ergonomics are wrong, but once you find a design you like you can buy in bulk.
By the way, this obviously applies for umbrellas and torches too. That self defence umbrella looks amazing, and a big maglite would fuck someone up, but the cops will see through that. Even a walking stick that was too thick of made out of hardwood would get you interrogated. It’s a weird thing, but Australians who don’t want to be brutally murdered by our thriving population of future world leaders need to choose mundanity over quality in anything they defend themselves with. Before you ask, yes I do know this is crazy. But avoiding being killed needs to be balanced with avoiding being imprisoned, and it’s almost impossible here, what with the government frothing at the mouth to see you either in chains or buried.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 09:35:32 UTC No. 212485
>>212484
I doubt any of these people have long enough careers to become experts
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 09:38:39 UTC No. 212486
>>212462
Fucking hillarious that you thought the meme man who’s learnt some wushu forms and watched a few chop socky flicks was the bareknuckle fighter.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 12:46:11 UTC No. 212488
>>212485
Ackshually
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esgri
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esgri
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esgri
No English sadly
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:25:44 UTC No. 212489
>>212481
>They're mostly using it either to tangle the weapon or obscure their vision
It is also used as a means to parry the blade using your off hand without taki mg serious damage. Just because it is used in the ways you’ve described does not mean it is not used as a parrying device also.
As an aside, there are plenty of scenarios where you can grab your opponents blade with a gloved or even bare hand relatively safely to gain an advantage. Even when it can’t be done safely, you have to weigh your options. I know of at least one anecdote of a duel between a Frenchman and Englishman where the Englishman intentionally took a thrust into his arm in order to deliver a killing blow to the Frenchman.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:51:16 UTC No. 212504
>>212486
I didn't, as I've clarified twice now, you illiterate ape.
Anonymous at Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:53:17 UTC No. 212506
>>212488
They really called these wild dagger fights creole fencing. I can't believe it.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:19:57 UTC No. 212817
DINGDINGDING
NEW EP TONIGHT BOYS
>6 Martial Artists Attacked on a Moving Bus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awW
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:29:33 UTC No. 212820
Ranton and Jeff are just giggling like kids while watching the other guys kek
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 14:54:44 UTC No. 212823
>>212817
>I'LL PULL GUARD ON YOU~
God the banter in this one is unbelievable
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 16:36:58 UTC No. 212832
>>212817
>jeff calmly removing himself from the situation without incident is a lower score than the jew getting molested and beating the fuck out of the guy
>the random eye poke the bogan did counted as KO even though eye gouging is 100% fake movie bullshit biting tier technique that only serves to piss off the guy you're fighting even further
it's just all too arbitrary to be entertaining
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 17:20:12 UTC No. 212834
>>212817
Why did the gay guy spazz out at Ranton but let Craig and Jeff go with no problem? Seems inconsistent. The abusive couple was actually a good challenge for once. That shit happens all the time and it's interesting to see it in one of those meme self-defense challenges to see how people react.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 22:54:56 UTC No. 212854
>>212834
Honestly, I believe they all failed the challenge with the abusive couple. Once you start white knighting her, she'll just scream and get other white knights to try and beat you up.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:16:53 UTC No. 212856
>>212854
my thought as I was watching is I'd make a quick heel turn and become the villain in the story
if I stepped in and she hit me I'd smack the fuck out of her and tell her to sit down or I'll beat you worse than he does, then I'd take a few more pot shots at him and tell him to take his trash off the bus
I would absolutely not be taking this competition seriously
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 23:41:47 UTC No. 212860
>>212856
This guy would use the self-defense pen on the woman. Rather than getting the $2,000 prize for making the pen look good, the pen company sues you for ruining their already dumb image.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 01:03:00 UTC No. 212864
>>212860
not that I ever found someone like manlet mike legitimate, but anybody in this industry who would be willing to receive sponsorship from mall ninja gear like that is permanently on my block list
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 01:06:58 UTC No. 212865
>>212864
1. He's proved to be a real fighter in his streetbeefs debut. 2. He hates tactical pens as much as you claim to, so by claiming you hate "mall ninja gear" you are actually agreeing with him.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 01:21:11 UTC No. 212866
>>212865
he's a featured spokesperson on the website
so maybe it's his personal belief they're stupid, but he sure has no problem selling it to his followers if there's a paycheck in it for him which makes him an even bigger piece of shit grifter
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 01:31:43 UTC No. 212867
>>212866
Icymikebros not like this......
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 01:40:30 UTC No. 212868
>>212866
OMG they took that picture from his react video of season 2's shank tank. This is hilarious!
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 01:47:51 UTC No. 212870
>>212866
Delete this
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 10:33:41 UTC No. 212889
>>212865
>>212866
Don't care because if I were trying to make money off of Youtube I would take shitty sponsors too, scummy? Maybe, at least I'm not a hypocrite. Plus the manlet has a toon of good videos.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 10:46:02 UTC No. 212891
>>212817
>the swede acts the most gay towards his rapist
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 15:20:35 UTC No. 213385
>6 Martial Artists Go All Out in Intense 15-Second Fights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yt
The meme has began
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 15:37:25 UTC No. 213386
>>213385
Natan champion
Craig the real champion in our hearts
Ranton last of course
Craig also won his first boxing fight the next day
Overall really underwhelming, Jesse didn't seem happy about some decisions, Jordan getting seriously hurt, Jeff didn't seem to be taking it seriously anymore, Ranton being the retard he is, etc. Either they make serious changes to this format or they will probably not have a 3rd chapter. If they insist they probably won't be able to convince anyone popular I think
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 15:42:13 UTC No. 213388
>>213385
>Ranton jumps the counter to fight the larger mma fighter in an enclosed space
But why???
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 17:50:28 UTC No. 213397
>>213386
The quality was improved and Rokas got sponsors now. Odds are high he can afford to financially convince people to participate. Kevin Lee is in the same "circle" as Icy Mike and Sensei Seth, meaning either of those two might be returning. Even more likely if he convinces some other pro fighters turned YouTubers like Wonderboy to participate (which isn't impossible at this point).
>>213393
I don't see him doing it. Ranton (His closest equivalent from either season) did it because he felt like he had something to prove plus Rokas and Jesse are relatively local to him (At least compared to the Americans and Ramsey Dewey) so it's an obvious clique to line up with.
Armchair Violence doesn't act like he has anything to prove despite having no record and being a random schlubby Jewling, and knows if he participates and gets his ass kicked his entire channel is invalidated. He's not like Ramsey or Icy Mike who could justify their floundering in season 1 by being old and beaten to shit (and partly crippled in Ramsey's case) as he's a young, physically fit man who just happens to be incompetent. His post-event cope would be great but he would never bite the bait.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 17:54:08 UTC No. 213399
>>213397
>The quality was improved
Where? This was far inferior to the first edition.
>Rokas got sponsors now
True
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 17:57:43 UTC No. 213400
>>213399
>Where?
I mean more in terms of production values. They had more dedicated sets, more appropriate equipment (The big issue with the Shank Tank last year was the Schrodinger's Knife that is a marker instead of proper training knives dipped in ink, for example), an actual residence for the fighters between events so they weren't sleeping on air mattresses in the gym (which definitely influenced their performance), and Rokas could actually afford to give them enough time to breathe after landing instead of dragging them straight to the beach for a gay sumo event.
The production quality isn't as immediately distinctly better because Rokas still clearly doesn't really know how to do these things, but there is a marked improvement in production and presumably if Season 3 is similarly funded to the same levels 1 and 2 were, we'll continue to see that further demonstrated.
In terms of performance and event quality, obviously that'll depend on the people involved.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 19:59:49 UTC No. 213409
>>213393
Kevin Lee was my main pick. But I could also see Shane "fightTIPS" Fazen and Aaron "GNT" Gassor. Jaxblade would be funny just as the fit guy.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Oct 2024 21:18:11 UTC No. 213414
>>213393
master fucking wong
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 01:44:47 UTC No. 213432
>>213393
I realize that they gather youtubers so that their fans will gather to watch the event, but I'd honestly like if they grabbed some no-name specialists.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:27:01 UTC No. 213435
>>210554
>Owner of the KarateByJesse blog and now YouTuber, Jesse is a high-ranking Swedish Karateka, bullshido believer, and Karate historian. Probably the second most autistic man in this show next to Rokas himself.
He's such a weird guy. He has legitimate kickboxing skills (he's clowned on BJJ-MT guys), and even some grappling since he trains with his pro-MMA fighter brother. However, he's also really into the TMA woo-woo; his YT videos and blog are like they're two different people.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:28:15 UTC No. 213436
>>213393
It's funny that this guy simultaneously so mediocre and such a prick that none of the NC YT clique want to deal with him.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:37:47 UTC No. 213439
>>213436
that's the best part about it, they all hang out with each other and he was even with them once and then never again
they all probably found him as insufferable as he seems
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:42:49 UTC No. 213441
>>213439
Given his scissor takedown apologism, I don't think he's safe to train with either. He's an abrasive know-it-all that's not that good, and then he'll randomly throw out stuff with a high risk of heem snappy.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:45:45 UTC No. 213442
>>213441
instead of saying he's a white belt in jiujitsu he says he's "unranked"
such cope. Yeah I'm just unranked is all, Id' be at least a blue or purple if I decided to go to classes formally though
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:04:16 UTC No. 213444
>>213442
Sometimes nogi only guys are like that, but can he point to even winning some local NAGA event, or a decent HS wrestling career? Sometimes strikers are like that, but can he point to some Golden Gloves competition?
I think the answers are "No" to both, and he's not even fun to have at the gym.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:35:21 UTC No. 213446
>>213386
>Jeff didn't seem to be taking it seriously anymore
The judges were super biased against him. He knew he wasn't winning. During shank tank, two other competitors used the self-defense pen to the attackers face and won a point, he had done it first and was awarded no points for having done so.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:38:06 UTC No. 213447
>>213399
>Where? This was far inferior to the first edition.
The shank tank was a lot more fair, this time they could "knock" attackers out while in S1 the attackers would get kicked in the face and kneed in the face and act like they would just shrug it off in a real fight.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 05:40:45 UTC No. 213448
>>213436
>NC YT clique
Who are they?
>>213393
I'd like to see this guy fight the KFM/Defense Lab people to see who is worse.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 08:20:14 UTC No. 213456
>>213441
The Kami basami ban in judo is one of the good restrictions the ijf ever came up with. I think it could be allowed in black belt divisions but it has too high risk of injury among regular competitors and if muh armchair violence ever actually trained for real against people that did that throw he’d probably be permanently crippled
>>213442
There’s also this shit. He’s such a faggot it’s unreal.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:12:02 UTC No. 213470
>>213448
>Who are they?
Icy Mike (He's left some positive comments and reacted to him before), Sensei Seth, IIRC Kevin Lee, and Wonderboy.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 13:12:30 UTC No. 213471
>>213448
Sensei Seth, Icey Mike, and Stephen Thompson + a some other supporting characters
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:06:15 UTC No. 213475
Season 3 has been (kinda) confirmed.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/
Seems like Natan and Seth from season 1 will make a return. Also plans for Glory champion Gabriel Varga. Kevin Lee, a kudo guy and a special forces guy. It says however that the 3rd season will only happen if the money goal is reached
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 14:57:35 UTC No. 213481
>>213477
>inb4 non-bias judging
Obviously.
If running is an option, then the methods of running shouldn't be limited. For example, in Hide And Go Stab, they had to exit the building through a specific set of doors where there was always an attacker waiting. Slipping out a different door or a window to make your escape should be rewarded rather than not allowed.
I would also have a greater variety of self defense scenarios.
>give them a "child" to defend
>have them attacked in a car rather than a bus as that is more common and has even less space
>have them attacked by someone posing as a family member so they need to win without excessive force, as gouging out your drunk uncle's eye is not okay
>have the final challenge be a break-in on the house they've been staying in at a really inopportune time like when they're in bed
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:03:09 UTC No. 213482
>>213481
These are all great.
I'd als argue any shank tank or other knife scenarios should differentiate stabs and slashes. (red paint on the tip and blue on belly?)
Slashing around the ribs isn't going to kill you fast, but a stab would, for example.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:22:03 UTC No. 213483
>>213477
I think they need more time between challenges, make it 6 challenges over a 2 week period. Make challenges of set types, 1st day is always bar situation, 2nd day is always a 'protect the victim' scenario, 3rd day is always x, etc. And just change a little bit from time to time. Allow people to take items with them like they did with the pen, irl people who care about self defense are usually walking with something. More scenarios where they can read the room and leave before shit hits the fan, more scenarios where they can't really leave the place, more items around so they can use to defend themselves, etc.
Also, I think it would be great to see the guys and all the NPCs talk about their experience in the situation and how they would do it differently. As far as scoring goes, I think before the challenge happens judges should decide on the objectives and make it clear to the audience, and score the performance accordingly, maybe give a bonus if the guy is really clever about it.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 15:50:13 UTC No. 213485
>>213477
I'd just go HAM
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:15:00 UTC No. 213501
>>213385
>goal of last event is "survive 15 seconds"
>actively punish competitor for not aggressively beating opponent
Is this even self defense?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:16:03 UTC No. 213514
>>213475
>Season 3 has been (kinda) confirmed.
>the 3rd season will only happen if the money goal is reached
pick one
>>213477
>The hide and go stab challenge should allow multiple forms of escape, it was silly to have only one way to leave and it had attackers in ambush to guarantee no one beat it.
>The bouncer scenario is stupid; its not self-defense to be paid security. I'd replace it with a challenge where you have to protect someone, similar to the bar fight scenario but this time your buddy isn't instigatig the incident.
>On the bus challenge, everyone who tried to help the women in the domestic violence situation should have lost the challenge (basically all of them). IRL the woman will always side with her abuser over the white knight both in the incident and later in court.
>Shank tank shouldn't be timed; either you "knock" the attacker out or he gives you fatal wounds.
>add a scenario where they are attacked at home and must fight back or flee.
>as a matter of fact, all the challenges except shank tank should have the option to flee.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:24:18 UTC No. 213515
>>213514
>all the challenges except shank tank should have the option to flee.
I'd argue that the Shank Tank should also have an escape option. There will literally NEVER be a scenario where you are locked in a box with an attacker. You got in there. They got in there. There is obviously an entrance into, and thus an exit out of, the room. The attacker may be in the way, but leaving should still be an option.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:29:06 UTC No. 213516
>>213515
I'd like to add something to my answer in >>213514
>There should be multiple cardio challenges, anyone who's serious about fleeing should have stamina. One for running, the other for using rides like a bicycle or a kayak.
>>213515
Fair enough, then all the challenges should have a flee option. It'd be nice to see the unfit slowpokes get stabbed in the back.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:47:24 UTC No. 213526
>>210555
Annoying bait response that is obviously excluded from the scope of the conversation? Thank God, almost forgot I was on 4chan
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 08:53:13 UTC No. 213545
>>213477
A lot of the challenges are not realistic and are not a true measure of self defense. I would either commit to the "testing self defense realism" angle, and adjust the challenges accordingly (and the scoring, which has been awful as well) or just go full entertainment and just have them fight a guy in gorilla suit under the guise of "what if you're a zookeeper that falls into the gorilla enclosure" and funny things like that.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:43:24 UTC No. 213554
>>213545
There should be a 'react to getting sucker punched after 3 beers' challenge
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:49:40 UTC No. 213584
>>213393
Are there any notable female martial arts youtubers? They're usually front and center in the self defense scene.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:40:56 UTC No. 213591
>>213584
Nah, they're more the center of the self defense *Market* The grand majority of people investing time and mental energy into figuring out self defense methodology are men. Especially the hand to hand combat aspect of it.
Even then, the competition would also have to be structured quite differently. because self defense looks different for different groups of people.
I seriously doubt that that Rokas could pull off the, same flashy, light hearted tone if they were simulating violence against women.
Imagine Rokas deducting points because a woman failed to defend herself against a simulated rape with punch sound effects and royalty free rock music in the background.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:43:17 UTC No. 213592
>>213387
I think that's kevin lee
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:48:17 UTC No. 213593
>>213441
True, especially after Rokas recently got crippled with it.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:49:29 UTC No. 213594
>>213414
Imagine him in the shank tank grabbing dicks and screaming about making peojkrv0le his dinner
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:58:19 UTC No. 213595
>>213477
I'd allow them to wear the clothing that they usually wear as that would offer a bit of insight it what advantages/ disadvantages different varieties of clothing would offer (I know it'd be easy to abuse I think that their reputations being somewhat on the line would probably keep them mostly honest)
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:58:19 UTC No. 213602
>>213475
In total, Season 3 will have 8 competitors (instead of 6):
>Natan Levy - MMA
>Sensei Seth - karate/sumo
>Kevin Lee - Wing Chun
>Gabriel Varga - kickboxing
>Vilius Tarasevicius - kudo
>Randy Turner - Canadian Special Forces
>2 other mystery contestants
I assume one of those is that big basketball player that couldn't be there for Season 2.
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:49:05 UTC No. 213612
>>213602
The other mystery contestant is probably the "unannounced self defense expert" that is teaching their USDC seminar alongside Jeff.
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 04:02:53 UTC No. 213619
>>213435
He's probably exaggerating his persona for marketing. Dude's got to make a living. Like he'll say BJJ doesn't work because that's what the TMA crowd likes to see. But on other videos he admits that karate has zero ground game and he'll immediately takedown and submit uppity karate masters who are trying to dojo storm him (which is what the combat sports crowd likes to hear). Off-camera I get the feeling he genuinely likes TMA stuff, but is more grounded about how practical it is and is into it more from a historian's perspective.
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 04:26:46 UTC No. 213620
>>213602
This list looks at a lot more competitive than season 2's so I hope they do get it funded.
Kinda curious that they're filming in Lithuania this time around. The IRL aussie shitposting did add a certain charm to the first two seasons.
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 04:34:53 UTC No. 213621
This whole thing frames itself as "which martial art is the best for self defense?", but it gives up on that almost immediately since no one is trying to represent their art.
>kung fu guy admits that he's never fought before and is relying on boxing
>karate guy keeps grappling everyone
>bjj black belt stuck to his guns and achieved the most injuries out of everyone there
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 04:45:07 UTC No. 213623
>>213619
>Like he'll say BJJ doesn't work
He did not say that, clickbait title aside he defended the use of grappling, the only BJJ technique he dislikes is when they pull guard rather than doing a takedown.
>on other videos he admits that karate has zero ground game
He's said the opposite. He'll tell people how traditional karate in Okinawa had grappling but the tradition was lost when they started making karate competitions.
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 04:45:24 UTC No. 213625
>>213619
He had some bjj fag show up at his gym and beat the fuck out of the guy on camera
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 04:52:00 UTC No. 213626
>>213625
>He had some bjj fag show up at his gym and beat the fuck out of the guy on camera
?? The BJJ dude won 2 out of the 4 challenges.
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 05:00:41 UTC No. 213627
>>213626
He cheated by continuing after time expired and Jesse had stopped
The other Jesse would've won if he didn't have those chunky shin pads preventing his ankle lock from biting
The only circumstance where the twink won is when striking was completely off limits
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 05:28:26 UTC No. 213629
>>213627
>He cheated by continuing after time expired and Jesse had stopped
You're talking about challenge 2 which Jesse won. The BJJ guy won challenge 3 and 4.
>the twink won is when striking was completely off limits
And Jesse won when grappling was off limits. Your point?
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 05:58:00 UTC No. 213630
>>213629
Grappling was never off limits,
Round 1 he just couldn't get anything going and was afraid to try and go to the ground on the wood floor like a pussy and Jesse put on a clinic
Round 2 they moved to the mats and Jesse beat him up on the feet AND out grappled him and took him down
Round 3 was grappling only and he just sat down and laid on his back in ground n pound range and ineffectually tried to sweep him until he got a cheeky ankle lock at the last second
Round 4 once again Jesse straight up outgrappled him on the feet, took him down hard twice and was 70% towards a submission when time expired
All he could do was pull guard and stall, he completely sucked. He was so completely impotent on his feet, how the fuck do you call yourself a grappler when you're getting taken down by a karate guy basically at will and you can't get him even once?
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 06:13:11 UTC No. 213631
>>213477
They should have made it bare knuckle, no helmets.
No time limit, fighting to failure.
>muh injurez
Not my problem.
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 06:18:11 UTC No. 213632
>>212488
Nigger plz
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 06:20:06 UTC No. 213633
>>211982
That is some fudd tier BS if I ever heard it.
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 06:30:23 UTC No. 213634
>>213630
>Grappling was never off limits,
The BJJ guy explained the rules he set up for the challenges, stop making shit up. Jesse isn't going to fuck you for defending his honor, he's perfectly capable of doing that on his own.
>>212488
Hey I've been looking into this for a couple of days. The south american dagger fencing is basically a cheap knockoff of what Spain, Italy, Portugal, etc were doing, I'm glad they kept the tradition alive but naming it "criolla" as if they had invented it is misleading. Secondly, their heavily choreographed dances are barely pressure testing; their exhibitions look more like wushu presentations rather than actual competitions.
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 12:54:02 UTC No. 213656
>>213634
>Hey I've been looking into this for a couple of days. The south american dagger fencing is basically a cheap knockoff of what Spain, Italy, Portugal
I mean, it probably diverged from that since maybe the 1500s
>I'm glad they kept the tradition alive but naming it "criolla" as if they had invented it is misleading.
Criolla because it is mixed with other stuff from black and indigenous community, but I agree it's all larp. The South of Brazil, Uruguay and Argentina are full of larpers.
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 15:29:26 UTC No. 213664
>>213634
Watch the video again and actually pay attention this time
Or don't, I don't care
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 17:13:05 UTC No. 213672
Ranton put up his own vid on the USDC with some behind-the-scenes notes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0a
I post it because one thing he goes into is the abusive boyfriend scenario. he points out that Jesse did absolutely nothing for a WHILE but only acted because he realized there wasn't a timer to wait it out - they'd just keep going until the contestants did something and everyone else followed on that realization. So I'd say none of them really "fucked up" when they were forced not to go with the right answer (which lines up with when they made Craig come back in when he left the bar scenario early on).
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 17:14:49 UTC No. 213673
>>213664
>pay attention this time
>Or don't, I don't care
For a guy who doesn't care. You sure made a lot of comments full of bullshit. get rekt, fag.
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 18:54:46 UTC No. 213689
>>213514
>Pick one
That's why I said kinda, you analphabetic faggot
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 03:33:57 UTC No. 213725
How effective is a shoe as an improvised weapon? I mean just holding it in your hand and hitting someone with it.
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 04:14:47 UTC No. 213726
>>213626
Really nigga? If he'd thrown that ground and pound with bad intentions, those hail mary subs wouldn't have materialized. He got fucking clowned on.
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 08:11:01 UTC No. 213731
Didn't watch. How did Ranton do?
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 11:09:28 UTC No. 213734
>>213731
he fucking SUCKS
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 13:49:11 UTC No. 213745
>>213630
And a guy who "trained Muay Thai" and actively grapples couldn't fight his way into clinching range in the first round. Either he really sucks, or Jesse is deceptively good.
Anonymous at Thu, 17 Oct 2024 16:25:48 UTC No. 213759
>>213731
Better than everyone was expecting, but still got last place after Jesse steamrolled him in the last round.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:21:13 UTC No. 214100
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWa
Rokas breaking down some behind the scenes stuff. Apparently alongside "Long COVID," some jackass broke his shin to the joint (The USDC has claimed a THIRD knee) during a BJJ roll he was doing to get the energy back for editing, and permanently handicapped him for life alongside being temporarily partially paralyzed from suboptimal conditions in the hospital. He shows pics of his foot and it looks like a bloated corpse. Horrifying stuff.
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:56:57 UTC No. 214104
>>214100
>Long COVID
Is an inflammatory condition, he should just do an elimination diet and stick to grass fed beef and lamb for a few days and it'll clear right up
Anonymous at Mon, 21 Oct 2024 17:58:08 UTC No. 214105
>>214104
That was all last year. He delayed releasing the series because of it.
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:34:44 UTC No. 214177
>>214100
Rokas wife is a saint ngl