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🧵 Learning to fight

Anonymous No. 212466

I have a lot of friends who are learning boxing and kick boxing. Should I take some lessons or just buy a gun?

Anonymous No. 212467

>>212466
learn judo throw your enemies
shatter their body

Anonymous No. 212475

you should buy a gun anyway but there's a whole continuum of force between verbal argument and GUN, and that's where all that other stuff falls into

Anonymous No. 212491

>>212466
False dilemma, do both

Anonymous No. 212546

>>212466
>Should I take some lessons
Look, a physical sport is going to benefit you regardless of whether or not you'll be in a fistfight a decade from now. Everytime I see a striking matrial arts practicioner doing some form of cardio or a grappler doing weight training I know that they are better for it. Yes, I recommend you learn the art of combat if you want to develop your body to the next level
>just buy a gun?
Both Chuck Norris (with his 10 gauge home defense shotgun) and Bruce Lee (with his .38 revolver that he carried) exercised their 2A rights. Of course you should buy a gun if you live in an area that allows it.

Anonymous No. 212549

>>212546
Don’t forget UFC champion sean Strickland
https://youtu.be/0rDIduCCJnA?feature=shared

Anonymous No. 212554

>>212466
You sound like an autistic fat fuck.

Go do sports with your friends and become part of the real world.

Might be your last chance to actually have friends.

Anonymous No. 212583

>>212554
>You sound like an autistic fat fuck.

just go train.
I literally quit training for a year and got fat, and unfit. If you think lifting is boring then go do martial arts to stay fit

Anonymous No. 212624

>>212466
both r fun. you should take some mma classes so you know the basics to hand to hand combat just in case you ever get in a hand to hand situation but you should also get a gun

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Anonymous No. 212664

>>212466
Why not both?

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Anonymous No. 212682

>>212466
For self defense I can only recommend Judo.
I've trained about all martial arts there are basically.
It would be a good idea to spar with a boxer just to know how to take hits and how it feels like when you get hit in the face. Other than that everything but Judo is a waste of time if you do it solely for self defense purposes.

If anyone says otherwise, here are my main arguments:
>1
Striking arts such as boxing, kickboxing, karate etc require you to be able to control the distance. If you can control the distance you should create as much distance as you possibly can i.e. just run the fuck away and get a weapon after calling the cops. You don't know who you're up against, one mediocre attacker can quickly turn into a legit street gang with weapons. If your idea is to defend yourself then the very last thing you want to do is to provoke a deadly gang attack by punching them first.
>2
Usually by the time you realize and accept that you're under attack, it's already grappling or there's another reason why you can't simply run away. Judo is the most proven and effective art to escape their grips and holds. Judo incorporates hundreds of years of knowledge from the battle fields, but also, western wrestling was included into Judo early on by its founder Jigoro Kano. Judo became one of the most popular Olympic sports as well. The best martial artists from Japan to China to Europe to Brazil brought their knowledge to Judo. And that knowledge was adjusted for the Judo rules which are very close to realistic self-defense situations (part from getting punched in the face, which is why you should practice *some* boxing too, but never at the expense of Judo). Combat Sambo would be ideal but it's very rare outside ex-USSR. Judo+boxing should do about the same.

That's about the best advice I can give considering my ~30 real self-defense experiences. Throw and run
https://youtube.com/shorts/3uS1qLlwEYE

Anonymous No. 212707

>>212682
What about multiple attackers?
>Dude like you can't even
Not an acceptable answer. It's something that could happen, you should have a plan for it. Is Judo that plan?

Anonymous No. 212713

there's this one guy who is supposedly ex kgb and tells you how to move your feet, and what you do is basically to walk sideways, you can either walk forward but turn that direction, or walk backwards and turn the other direction. So, if you are moving right, you turn left and put you left foot behind you, then turn right while moving your right foot. also you wanna keep your wrist straight and bring your arm up like a noodle or a whip almost and push in someone's body perpendicularly. The way it works is almost like a piledriver and really gives people the ouchies, you're using your shoulder muscles as well as traps and triceps

Anonymous No. 212717

>>212713
I don't really care what any Russians have to say when it comes to fighting, they haven't won a war since ww2 and even that was more about German unpreparedness for the climate than anything to do with Russian fighting prowess
It's a gas station with nukes, pay no attention to them

Anonymous No. 212738

>>212707
throwing someone on a mat or crash pad vs concrete are two different things.

Being body slammed already hurts
imagine throwing someone on concrete and since most of this website is the us most of the concrete environments are underkept so you have a bunch of loose stones everywhere.

Anonymous No. 212739

>>212738
The most we can do for OP is make recommendations.
For all we know his personality could clash with his coach and he'll end up doing a completelt different martial art than what is recommended to him.

>do judo
>"oh i ended up doing boxing instead"

Anonymous No. 212770

>>212717
They might lie about their industrial capabilities and have an extremely antiquated command structure, but they know how to brawl.

Anonymous No. 212780

>>212466
everybody got a gameplan till the man behind her suplexes her

Anonymous No. 212783

>>212713
>there’s this one guy
>ex-kgb
Stopped reading, don’t be a retard.

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Anonymous No. 213006

>>212466
> They placated her for so long for her money
>Now she thinks she's the shit

Anonymous No. 213007

>>213006
This other two guys don’t exactly look like killers either

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Anonymous No. 213009

>>213007
That's the best part

Anonymous No. 214543

>>212549
I always tell people, you learn how to fight in case normal people get out of hand, you get a gun for everyone else.

Anonymous No. 214703

>>212707
Just throw quicker and don't go down with the throw.

Anonymous No. 214704

>>212707
sweeps and major throws

Anonymous No. 214880

>>212717
that gas station is really annoying your plans both in Ukraine and the middle east though, without using nukes. And your sanctions actually made them drop their prices on natural gas for all their allies in the region. Not only that but Europe has to now pay then in rubles only.

Anonymous No. 215050

>>214880
Two weeks until Kiev falls

Anonymous No. 215082

A gun works best for self defense if the self defense situation calls for lethal force, like a crackhead with a knife attacking you.
If someone disrespects you in a minor way and you shoot them you're gonna go to jail though. It really depends on what you're trying to do. Nothing will keep you 100 percent safe at all times

Anonymous No. 215185

>>215082
unironically; lifts for this feel?

Anonymous No. 215194

>>215082
Truth. I almost had to shoot a crackhead yesterday.

Anonymous No. 215414

>>212466
learn to fight and buy a gun and everything else that you can and by more guns and various weapons. Be as bad as you can be, learn how to hack, learn human anatomy so you will know all the vital arteries and organs to attack. Learn how to throw a baseball acurately, how to throw a knife, how to shoot a bow and arrow. how to shoot a pistol, how to use a sniper rifle, how to fly a god damn helicopter. Star jogging, running, sprinting, swimming. sky diving. Get in tip top shape and try out for US Navy Spec Ops.

Anonymous No. 215695

>>212466
For street defense
>How to punch
Will give you a feel for how bad it can be to lean in too hard into a punch while punching so you learn how to be safe
>Kickboxing
Will teach you that kicking in the streets can be retarded if you slip and fall on concrete
>Judo
Will teach you how not fall headfirst onto concrete or fall in a fucked up way and be unable to run away
Kickboxing also will show you the perils of changing level into someone smacking you in the face
All these martial arts are good. If only to reach you how to not get yourself dead

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Anonymous No. 215876

not OP but I will also ask: I have been a retard for a long while. I had a basic\good base on kickboxing and boxing, but I stopped going to the gym because it wasn't "hard enough" and spent months practicing punches, kicks, etc against those iron poles or metal equipment at public park, trees, hitting myself with dumbbells or even barbells, etc ,and just sprinting\ doing random but tiring shit with my home gym weights.
Now I came to realize : life ISN'T about headbutting s dumbell for reps ..I sincerely want to learn an Art (of fighting now) so:
> what coordination ,hand-eye drills are good and where can I get a book about them?\ youtube channels, etc?
>what sparring regime is advice for a non-pro, frequency, agreed-upon level of harshness, etc?
>what equipment MUST a gym have? tear drop bag, banana bag etc
>Should I learn no-gi BJJ ,and K-1? I want to acquire real fitness, agility, dynamic power and body-smarts.
(I will move to another City so I won't be returning to the gym I went to. I think they don't give the classes anymore even)