Anonymous at Tue, 8 Oct 2024 01:36:57 UTC No. 212936

>>212797
Doesn't Jon Jones currently hold a belt/championship?

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 14:09:21 UTC No. 213660

>>212936
Yes but it's a propaganda shtick. Aspinall is the interim champ and Jones is scared of him and doesn't have to fight him. He's defending his titles against a retired grandpa who hasn't fought in five years while Aspinall is calling him out and is ready to go. Even the way he won the title looked bullshit (first round submission with 0 damage)

He's a confirmed roidhead who never really got punished for it and instead propped up

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Oct 2024 11:40:57 UTC No. 213948

>>212797
They lost
>>213660
I'm pulling for Stipe to win because Stipe said he would fight Tom. I know it's a long shot but it would be very satisfying.

James at Wed, 30 Oct 2024 03:39:14 UTC No. 214866

>>212797
Same argument in boxing. The majority of black athletes who live in countries with combat sport opportunities are in the NFL, NBA and Football in the EU. Some black fighters today in the UFC are guys like Jamahal Hill who tried to make it as a basketball player first but failed so started MMA in his late 20's. Also guys like Ngannou and Izzy are immigrants who took on MMA at later points in their lives. Every now and then you get fighters like Jon Jones and Usman who wrestled but once again most inner city black kids get groomed into basketball or football. Even with that though about a year and a half ago 5 of the 8 champions were black but very quickly it switched up so it could switch up again at some point. As for now there doesn't seem to be many black fighters today who come from extensive competitive combat backgrounds like that of Jones and DC. There are many in Cuba though but due to Cuba's relationship with the US I doubt we'll see many in the UFC.

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 06:47:42 UTC No. 220710

Blacks don't have an advantage in MMA. Look at the body types of Khabib, Fedor, Cain Velasquez, etc. This is the puncher-grappler type. In boxing, there's maybe a slight advantage to black people who have slightly longer wingspans per a given weight/height, which gives you reach, but reach isn't nearly as useful in MMA when you can simply get taken down. Reach therefore only works when you have takedown defense or face someone without takedown offense. I think more important than reach is technical grappling and power in the lower base, which slightly shorter legs even help with.

The main reason blacks are even known for athleticism at all is that they have longer legs and thus are more efficient in sports where you run around a lot without contact. Even in american football, when constant contact is part of the position, whites are as good or better (offensive line). It just so happens that a lot of sports are built around running in large open spaces mostly without contact, and if pure speed is an advantage in the sport, then they have at least that slight advantage.

They aren't the strongest, the most skilled, the most intelligent, or even necessarily the most agile.

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:06:29 UTC No. 220711

>>220710
You need to be strategic in there, same reason blacks aren't quarterbacks

🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:14:25 UTC No. 220713

>>220710
No, nigs are very agile and strong. At least West Africans, they have the highest percentage of fast twitch fibers and explosive genes. Other blacks don't really have that, so it isn't so much a "black" thing as it is West African. All of them have long arms and legs though, which are indubitably advantages in striking and running.
>>220711
You win some you lose some.

>>213948
Stipe was slower than Tyson in that fight. Honestly Stipe might have lost to Jake Paul and Mike Tyson, if he had to face them back to back.

>>212797
It's timing.
Ngannou is pretty comparable to Tom Aspinall, I think he'd win right now but the clock is ticking for him. Prime Ngannou crushes Tom, Tom got stunned by Sergei who needs 10-20 punches to finish off a heavyweight.

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:16:15 UTC No. 220714

>>220711
I would use a different word than "strategic", but I get what you're saying. It's about vision and pattern recognition. When a QB reads a defense, it's usually about processing a lot of data and making a decision, rather than simply reacting to a simple yes/no read.

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:16:53 UTC No. 220715

>>220713
Oh, by the way. If you want my opinion on the strongest races:
>Georgian
>Icelandic
>Samoan
>West African
>Northern English
Can't say the order but these should be the strongest humans. Dagestani might have higher IQ and ferocity, but their physical stats don't match up. Mexicans and Native Americans are good in smaller weight classes, but they don't stack up to white, black, samoan heavyweights.

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:21:48 UTC No. 220716

>>220713
>At least West Africans, they have the highest percentage of fast twitch fibers and explosive genes.
That doesn't imply they have the most strength overall or that their body type scales up well (their long limbs suffer square-cube law issues). In fact, it doesn't seem like it scales down very well either, as their smaller guys are pretty weak.

I think Africans tend to be strong for a given weight as long as there is a secondary emphasis on speed (limiting body types to only those that are efficient running in space), but they don't produce the strongest if you take that filter away. I think slow twitch fiber helps a lot with strength too. It's just less efficient if you're worried about running around at a high top speed.

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:33:41 UTC No. 220719

>>220715
Andy Ruiz and Cain valasquez

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 18:13:32 UTC No. 220794

>>220713
>Prime Ngannou crushes Tom
Tom hits a rugby tackle and rnc within 5 minutes

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 11:09:20 UTC No. 220872

>>220719
>2 champs in all of history

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 20:01:35 UTC No. 220898

>>220710
We had 4 black champions for like 2 years straight.Stop with the whole racial non strategist bs. Usman lost because Leon had luck in the chamber. Adesanya challenged his trauma and lost. Ngannou left his belt due to muh knees. Aljamain got diabetes.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 20:15:55 UTC No. 220899

>>212797
Honestly this is refreshing just because of the long reign of Usman and Adesanya. Like we don't have to watch Colby or Whittaker get fed to them anymore.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Jan 2025 20:28:52 UTC No. 220900

>>220898
I'm actually deracializing it. Sports in general have such a strong racial component, even among supposed anti-racists. I'm rejecting that. I'm not saying that being of a given race automatically makes you superior.

Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 01:30:36 UTC No. 220907

>>220898
>Usman lost because Leon had luck in the chamber
Usman lost because Leon kicked him in the head. No luck involved.

Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 05:58:48 UTC No. 220931

>>220711

Anonymous at Sat, 25 Jan 2025 06:09:09 UTC No. 220932

>>220715
Are these really the best ethnicities for fighting?