Anonymous at Sun, 8 Dec 2024 13:05:50 UTC No. 217232

Because people want to watch guys get slammed and beaten to a pulp on the ground. But they also want it to be "real" so they can't watch pro wrestling. It's all very retarded.

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Dec 2024 17:11:08 UTC No. 217236

Its boring as hell for one
They compete every weekend so the goal is they're trying to cruise and win on score cards, not going for KOs, and the first round they aren't even competing. Its a warm up round while the bets come in so both guys just chill until round 2 before they start trying
Everyone that talks about how muay thai is the real deal has never actually watched it
It's point sparring

They market the same way the chineses do, for whatever reason people take the bait
Chinese guy breaks a brick with Kung fu, super cringe!
Thai ladyboy kicks over a dead banana plant, ZOMG THE POWER OF MUAY THAI

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Dec 2024 17:17:18 UTC No. 217238

>>217236
>Everyone that talks about how muay thai is the real deal has never actually watched it
>It's point sparring
There's like 1 death in muay thai reported on the internet every year and I guess not all of them are reported on internet cause it's the third world

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Dec 2024 18:16:47 UTC No. 217239

>>217238
well yeah it's 3rd world, deaths could be from anything

Anonymous at Sun, 8 Dec 2024 18:49:29 UTC No. 217240

>>217230
It seems to be popular under ONE Championship.

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 00:36:38 UTC No. 217247

>>217238
vax status?

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 03:54:35 UTC No. 217270

>>217230
the more popular mma gets the more popular muai thai gets and both are on the rise, ONE had a big event in Denver a couple months ago when superlek knocked out haggerty early and it was pretty lively

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 19:01:50 UTC No. 217301

>>217230
Arguably the second most popular striking art behind boxing.
>Why isn't muay thai a big thing
Shut up.

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 21:09:24 UTC No. 217308

>>217236
Just lol at this cope

Anonymous at Mon, 9 Dec 2024 23:37:08 UTC No. 217318

>>217230
Like everything else bro, marketing. If muay thai had UFC / WWE tier marketing and event structure it would mogg everything else.

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 00:17:33 UTC No. 217320

>>217318
>UFC / WWE tier marketing
Those are two different tiers of marketing. WWE has A tier marketing, like boxing does. UFC does not.

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 08:25:07 UTC No. 217336

>>217270
>>217301
Ironically, despite muay thai unanimously being considered legit, it actually has less representation in MMA at the highest levels than most other striking arts. Sure, everyone knows how to throw a leg kick and has a passing familiarity with a thai clinch, but you rarely see champions with bonafide competitive muay thai credentials.

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:00:35 UTC No. 217345

>>217336
because it's just asian kick boxing

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:16:55 UTC No. 217346

Muay Thai is HUGE in Japan, France, the Netherlands, and pretty much the rest of the world. It's only retarded burgerland that doesn't appreciate it because:

A) US Full-Contact Karate fighters were getting thrashed by Nak Muays so there was a nasty propaganda campaign against it

B) There are no good US Muay Thai fighters. They lack the skills to hang with the big boys in Lumpini and Rajadamnern; the Mecca and Medina of Muay Thai competition.

C) The wai kru ceremony before a bout would alienate retarded burgers

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:59:52 UTC No. 217348

>>217346

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 17:19:09 UTC No. 217349

>>217346
unless the economy suddenly becomes 1920s overnight or over the course of a few years being a fighter will never been a profitable thing unless you become ali, tyson, mayweather or mcgregor levels of famous where your name is known by people that dont even follow fighting.

The US will never turn out pure career fighters again until the economy gets that good.

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 19:29:55 UTC No. 217353

>>217336
Kickboxing copied Muay Thai after getting their asses kicked by it. Look for all the kickboxing champs, and that's where you see the Muay Thai influence.

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 20:46:25 UTC No. 217357

>>217230
People want to see fights with the least restrictions possible, and MMA is the best we've got in that regard.

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 21:15:24 UTC No. 217359

>>217308
Identify one false statement

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Dec 2024 21:28:52 UTC No. 217360

>>217353
>Kickboxing copied Muay Thai after getting their asses kicked by it.
lol no. Three karate guys from Japan went to Thailand and fought three muay thai guys and the karate guys won two of the fights. When they returned to Japan they decided to create their own version of muay thai which became kickboxing.

Anonymous at Wed, 11 Dec 2024 01:50:58 UTC No. 217383

>>217360
and yet, when kickboxers were using the karate's bladed stance, they kept getting their asses kicked until they adopted the Muay Thai stance and popularized low kicks. There is Muay Thai influence, no matter how much you deny it.

Anonymous at Wed, 11 Dec 2024 19:34:42 UTC No. 217412

>>217383
Couple of points:
1. I didn't deny muay thai's influence on kickboxing. In fact; I stated clearly that kickboxing was created BECAUSE of muay thai. Influence doesn't get any bigger than that.
2. Bladed stance? Are you talking about non-Japanese kickboxing? Specifically American/Canadian kickboxing from the 70s and 80s? Because Japanese kickboxers didn't fight in a "bladed stance." American and Canadian kickboxers did because low kicks were illegal in North American kickboxing and a lot of those kickboxers came from traditional martial arts backgrounds that utilized a bladed stance. North American kickboxing evolved as its own thing. It was basically a combination of boxing and point karate.

Anonymous at Thu, 12 Dec 2024 03:10:32 UTC No. 217430

>>217383
>>217412
Bladed stances are also fairly prevalent in MMA even though the threat of the leg kick is there, so it's not so cut & dry.

Anonymous at Tue, 17 Dec 2024 22:56:42 UTC No. 217801

>>217236
Idk Muay Thai makes some people extremely dangerous. Only some tough.

Anonymous at Tue, 17 Dec 2024 23:32:00 UTC No. 217804

>>217412
You can also see how it developed over the years to become more and more like MT. Got some boxing influences too. I don't even know how this debatable if you're old enough to know what early Kickboxing and K1 was. Or just watched the vids

Anonymous at Tue, 17 Dec 2024 23:37:39 UTC No. 217805

>>217346
>there are no good us muay thai fighters
>steroids has knocked on the door

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Dec 2024 13:41:32 UTC No. 217833

>>217346
It's huge here in Brazil. Pretty much the number one striking art assuming you aren't already going to a specialized MMA gym, just leagues above boxing and any other kickboxing variety in number of practitioners.

Anonymous at Wed, 18 Dec 2024 18:52:13 UTC No. 217840

>>217833
desu most casual MT gyms here are just kickboxing but MT sells better.

Anonymous at Thu, 19 Dec 2024 17:33:23 UTC No. 217899

>>217840
Kickboxing has become an imitation of MT so it's the same fundamentals. I hear what you're saying though

Anonymous at Sat, 21 Dec 2024 18:21:24 UTC No. 218001

>>217430
Because both guys are in bladed stance more often, they have to defend takedowns. From a bladed stance it's slower to throw kicks

Anonymous at Sat, 21 Dec 2024 18:29:52 UTC No. 218003

>>217349
The only thing the US can churn out are wrestlers

>>217230
People enjoy a slipped punch into a big takedown into big ground and pound or snapping into a submisison. They don't enjoy footstomping against the cage and positional grappling on the ground.

Anonymous at Sun, 22 Dec 2024 19:16:17 UTC No. 218075

>>218001
Yeah, the Thaijitsu style can work, but you need to be both scary off your back and have good sweeps such that you don't really care about getting taking down, but you need Oliveira-tier BJJ for this gameplan to work