Anonymous at Mon, 13 Jan 2025 14:38:31 UTC No. 219956
>>219949
Hates that faggot? I've never seen someone here agree with him lol.
Anonymous at Mon, 13 Jan 2025 15:13:58 UTC No. 219958
>>219956
He is pretty reasonable though, unlike this board
Anonymous at Mon, 13 Jan 2025 16:00:23 UTC No. 219961
>>219956
i like him
Anonymous at Mon, 13 Jan 2025 17:07:28 UTC No. 219965
>>219956
He sounds what you'd expect an "urm, akchually" redditor to sound like, but his takes are actually good
Anonymous at Mon, 13 Jan 2025 17:12:27 UTC No. 219968
>>219965
He punches the heavy bag with no hand protection
He's either completely retarded or so weak it doesn't matter
Any legitimate session of bag work will leave your knuckles shredded
Leather > human skin
Every time
Anonymous at Mon, 13 Jan 2025 22:09:24 UTC No. 219993
>>219968
He said that not punching at full force is a legitimate way to protect your hands in a bare knuckle fight
Anonymous at Mon, 13 Jan 2025 22:55:37 UTC No. 219995
>>219993
Muh broken hand is a fake concern, they like to say even Mike Tyson broke his hand!
He had a tiny hairline fracture on his pinky knuckle after dropping an atomic bomb of a punch
The main reason for pads in bag work is to protect from cuts, who cares if that happens in a fight
Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jan 2025 02:43:03 UTC No. 220374
>>219958
>He is pretty reasonable though
He is the opposite of reasonable. Not even other martial arts youtube personalities associate with him.
Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jan 2025 03:06:54 UTC No. 220376
>>220374
They hung out with him one time at icy Mike's place and then never again
Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jan 2025 04:45:01 UTC No. 220385
>>219995
Out of the thousands of fights online not ONE ends with a broken hand
But people will parrot bullshit
Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jan 2025 15:14:23 UTC No. 220410
>>220385
>Out of the thousands of fights online not ONE ends with a broken hand
1. Most fights online have really weak striking.
2. A broken hand doesn't end the fight. People will continue fighting and notice later after the fight ends.
Even doctors will talk about the "classic" boxer's fracture. You know less than the annoying nerd this thread is making fun of.
One hospital had 172 hand injuries from punching in just 12 months, "but people don't break their hand fighting." https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articl
Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jan 2025 22:06:35 UTC No. 220435
>>220410
if the little bone cracks don't stop you from continuing to fight then there's no point even talking about them
what? injuries in a fight?!? yeah well no shit, stay out of fights if you don't want to have them
meanwhile you have irl tuffgai combative faggots suggesting you use palm strikes and shit instead of punches so your hands don't break as though they'll shatter like glass and leave you defenseless
great idea coach, let's use an objectively less effective striking surface and risk great bodily harm and possibly death by losing the fight instead of risking some ouchies on our widdle fingies by making a fist
Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jan 2025 23:44:28 UTC No. 220445
>>220435
If I can't use my hand for to months after a fight it matters.
You are the one talking about plam strikes, just throw a elbow or knee.
Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 02:04:02 UTC No. 220449
>>220435
Further down the line, when your hand is so damaged that you can't even hold a cup properly due to having no grip strength. You'll wonder if maybe you should have diversified your strikes. Look, >>220445; others understand this.
Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 02:30:20 UTC No. 220451
>>220445
>>220449
The standard punch is the most potent and versatile striking weapon your body has, if you're worried about getting hurt then don't get into fights
Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 03:03:18 UTC No. 220455
>>220451
Humans are much more adapted to grappling than striking and are hands prove that, hands are tools for fine motor movement and grabbing not hammers.
Hey if you want to fight with them instead of using the solid bone of your elbow do it, but you just sounded retarded saying it is better or that it doesn't matter.
Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 03:34:01 UTC No. 220458
>>220451
>the most potent striking weapon your body has
That would most definitely be the kick, not the punch.
>the most versatile striking weapon your body has
Arguably also the kick, but a case could be made for the punch.
>The standard punch
No such thing, by the way; most people use pure punches despite the fact that impure punches are stronger; there is no standard.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 10:04:36 UTC No. 220634
>>220455
>Humans are much more adapted to grappling than striking and are hands prove that
Humans evolved to use tools. Cavemen didn't wrestle each other into submission; they grabbed clubs and swung them at each other. Striking wins.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 15:30:11 UTC No. 220651
>>220445
>Oh my science... how am I going to le heckin CODE on my workstation if I punched someone???
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 18:24:30 UTC No. 220657
>>220634
Grappling is much more intuitive than using weapons. Come on. Even animals grapple.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 18:37:04 UTC No. 220659
>>220657
look to toddlers to find out what instinct is
they smack, bite, and throw things
the unique human ability to overhand throw is often overlooked at how powerful of an adaptation it is
we're ranged attackers, always have been
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 22:59:17 UTC No. 220674
>>220657
Watch any street fight between guys who obviously don't know how to fight. Do you see them wrestling each other? No, they're going to be throwing the shittiest haymaker punches you've ever seen.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 23:02:24 UTC No. 220675
>>220657
We're closest evolutionary-wise to apes. Watch gorillas fight and they're swinging their arms at each other.
You could also watch any number of street fight between guys who obviously don't know how to fight. Do you see them wrestling each other? No, they're going to be throwing the shittiest haymaker punches you've ever seen.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Jan 2025 23:10:21 UTC No. 220676
>>220675
I've seen a teenage girl taking down her friend on grass
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 01:53:29 UTC No. 220686
>>220634
>Humans evolved to use tools. Cavemen didn't wrestle each other into submission; they grabbed clubs and swung them at each other.
This supports the guys above saying that punching has its cons. If punching was so good, then they wouldn't need clubs.
>>220659
>they smack, bite, and throw things
Biting and throwing are more intuitive in grappling than in striking. You proved his point again.
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 06:12:24 UTC No. 220703
>>220659
>>220675
As if neither of these groups grapple. Apes especially love to get in close. Ugh I guess it does make sense that they naturally do both.
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 06:22:26 UTC No. 220704
>>220686
Yeah go around hitting people with clubs
Say hi to bubba in prison
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 06:35:31 UTC No. 220706
>>220704
>Yeah go around hitting people with clubs
Anon, are you illiterate? I'm responding to the guy who brought up clubs; I'm not the one saying we should bludgeon people.
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 06:38:12 UTC No. 220708
>>220706
Obviously weapons are superior to fistfights. Are you stupid?
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 06:45:50 UTC No. 220709
>>220708
>Are you stupid?
Clearly you are if you think that the existence of clubs means that grappling is useless. You know what the modern equivalent to clubs is? Batons. You know what martial arts are most often taught to police officers (the people who carry batons)? Grappling.
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 08:14:39 UTC No. 220721
>>220709
I agree with you. I don't know what you are arguing about anymore
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 11:11:27 UTC No. 220726
>>220455
>Humans are much more adapted to grappling than striking and are hands prove that, hands are tools for fine motor movement and grabbing not hammers.
Classic retard mistake of not understanding how evolution works. Your hands didn't "adapt" to do anything in the sense primates went down some tech tree like a video game where they specced into fine motor skills, that's not how it works. Evolution works through reproductive pressure. If you kill a guy with your bare hands breaking them in the process, but fuck and impregnate his mate afterwards there'd be absolutely no selective pressure making organisms with tougher hands more likely to develop, and people would continue to have brittle hands (which is exactly what happened to human beings, seemingly. We have delicate hands but still use them to fight sometimes).
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 17:27:05 UTC No. 220737
>>220726
People get it twisted, what you're describing with the hands thing is lamarckian evolution
For the peanut gallery it's the idea that the parents physical development in life passes down to the children
A giraffe spends all its life stretching its neck to reach the high leafs so the baby will have a longer neck
The parent spent its life running and developing strong leg muscles, so the baby will have legs better for running etc
That's not how it works but lots of people seem to think it does
The fact is evolution is a game of "good enough" It's not about being optimal and thriving forever it's just about being able to nut before you die
It isnt some constant onward march towards something greater. If you have a design that works pretty well like a shark or a crocodile you just don't change very much because it does the job just fine
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:25:41 UTC No. 220740
>>220737
>shark
>it does the job just fine
As we watch various subspecies become endangered. Sounds like they should change if they can.
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:32:34 UTC No. 220741
>>220737
>what you're describing with the hands thing is lamarckian evolution
NTA, it really isn't. You're both describing the same thing, a genetic trait is passed down as long as it is good enough to get you to the point that you reproduce
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 19:34:15 UTC No. 220742
>>220740
Unfortunately for them, evolution is slower than human technological progress.
Shouldn't have left INT as a dump stat I guess
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 21:20:03 UTC No. 220750
>>220709
BJJ cant even figure out grappling knife disarms
something JJJ figured out hundreds if years ago
shut the fuck up.
You want actual self defense do boxing or judo.
Nothing is gonna hurt more when your attacker goes from being a normal dude to being fucking mentally disabled for life with a hard punch to the head.
Nothing is gonna hurt more than body slamming your attacker with a seoi nage and they crack their head on concrete.
meanwhile most bjj schools barely even cover take downs and teach butt scooting
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 21:23:53 UTC No. 220751
>>220750
>alright guys someone is attacking you in the streets?
>here's how you kimura them from closed guard.
>they have a knife?
>most people dont carry knives anon sorry, that's not realistic we only teach realism in my gym if you dont like it you can leave
>there's the door
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 21:27:23 UTC No. 220752
>>220751
>Someone is attacking yoh with BJJ??!?!?
>Just stand up!!!!!
dumbass martial art
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 21:39:11 UTC No. 220754
>>220750
>BJJ cant even figure out grappling knife disarms
>most bjj schools barely even cover take downs and teach butt scooting
At no point was I shilling BJJ; in fact, I don't mention it at all, you manchild. Look at my responses:
>>220410
>>220449
>>220458
>>220686
>>220706
>>220709
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Jan 2025 21:58:02 UTC No. 220755
>>220754
seethe harder
Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 00:44:19 UTC No. 220760
>>220755
I mean, you're the retard inserting red herrings and moving goalposts. If anyone here is upset, it's your dumbass.
Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 16:19:48 UTC No. 220791
>>220761
i actually dint hate bjj i just like being distruptive and bjj is the easiest group to piss off
Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 19:00:12 UTC No. 220799
>>220651
Can you not think of anything past using a computer?
Having two broken fingers makes ever thing more difficult.
Writing, lifting, cooking
Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 19:03:28 UTC No. 220800
>>220799
what do you write my fellow transexual?
Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 19:06:20 UTC No. 220801
>>220791
Only white and blue belts, in fact some might argue to barrier to purple belt is realizing bjj is fake and gay and you start learning other things too
The 10% of blue belts that realize this make it to purple, the 90% who don't will never break the blue ceiling and quit
Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 19:09:20 UTC No. 220802
>>220801
I just like that the bjj guys talk shit back ir just flat out call me retarded.
Makes fun banter
Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 19:16:26 UTC No. 220804
I don't know how this thread became about bjj.
All I am saying is don't break your hands, your elbows and feet work better for self defense anyways.
>>220726
adapted does not means evolved, If I win a fight but I am unable to work that is a shit outcome
We have adapted to drive cars on roads we didn't evolve to do that.
>>220465
>They can be both
A person can do a lot of things but there are better options.
>>220800
work logs and part orders
Anonymous at Thu, 23 Jan 2025 19:42:20 UTC No. 220807
>>220802
>I just like that the bjj guys call me retarded.
I mean, everybody thinks you're retarded; you and I are using 4chan.
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Feb 2025 11:49:01 UTC No. 223082
>>220686
>If punching was so good, then they wouldn't need clubs.
If grappling was so good, garrottes would never have been invented.
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 06:33:25 UTC No. 223939
>>220376
>icy mike will even put up with ramsay but not this guy
Damn
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:46:53 UTC No. 223957
>>219956
most of his takes are pretty good