🧵 /cg/ - Climbing General
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 22:34:25 UTC No. 224473
~~Magnus Midtbø is a Sellout Edition~~
>Where do I start?
People typically start in the gym and branch off outdoors and find their niche, be it bouldering, trad, sport or a mixture of the above. Some never leave the gym at all. Ultimately it doesn't matter - just get started and enjoy yourself.
>How fit do I have to be to start? Do I have to be able to do x amount of pull-ups?
Being light, strong and flexible helps at the higher levels but climbing is open to almost anyone and is fairly intuitive to most. Even if your body is feeble and weak now, you will develop strength over time by virtue of just climbing. Climbing is a holistic sport and success often hinges upon many factors, not just strength and power, but having these qualities definitely helps when you breach into the higher grades.
>What shoes do I buy?
If you're starting out in the gym, don't worry too much: get some snug shoes without dead space that don't cause you lasting pain. Some people (such as the famed shoe designer Heinz Mariacher) recommend wearing soft shoes when you're starting out -- this makes sense since your footwork will probably suck and the increased feedback will pay dividends over time. You really don't need fancy expensive shoes when you're starting out, but certain shoe properties help send harder problems (e.g. stiff shoes for standing on tiny granite edges or soft shoes for sandstone/gritstone smears).
Here are some useful resources for sizing:
>https://sizesquirrel.com/
>https://rockrun.com/blogs/the-flas
>Do I need Magdust/Rugne Gear?
No, most chalk you find will be good. Mammut is older, cheaper, and as reliable as they come.
>Do I need to start hangboarding?
Hangboarding is a tool used to improve climbing, but you likely won't *need* it until you've climbed for 2-3 years. Even that's generous. Just climb.
Old thread:
>>213492
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Feb 2025 22:58:05 UTC No. 224477
Anyone have issues with committing to sketchy moves? Or am I just a bitch?
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Feb 2025 08:57:49 UTC No. 224502
>imagine being angry that some guy you never met uses his fame to make money
nobody's forcing you to watch his videos, fag.
you can tell from the video titles if it's gonna be totally shit, worth skipping through or watching the whole video.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Feb 2025 09:35:43 UTC No. 224505
>>224477
It depends on the situation. Typically just send it and fall on your safety equipment.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Feb 2025 14:16:45 UTC No. 224510
>>224477
>Anyone have issues with committing to sketchy moves?
yes if they're higher up
>Or am I just a bitch?
also yes but I'm too
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Feb 2025 16:24:52 UTC No. 224528
>>224502
I don't watch his videos. I am not the one seething. I'm calling a man who used to make good content what he has become - a sellout.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Feb 2025 17:06:00 UTC No. 224536
>>224477
no
>think up
>don't think down
ez
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Feb 2025 17:39:09 UTC No. 224554
>>224505
Talking about bouldering. I've literally gotten concussed in my gym because they set some sketchy ass moves and always set them near the top. If you commit, you're fine, if you don't, you can potentially fall backwards and fuck something up.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Feb 2025 18:10:02 UTC No. 224566
>Do I need Magdust/Rugne Gear?
No, most chalk you find will be good. Mammut is older, cheaper, and as reliable as they come.
Ok well that shit is a lie
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:00:40 UTC No. 224571
>>224566
What's wrong with Mammut?
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:07:23 UTC No. 224572
>>224571
Oh shit my bad, I had that one confused for the metolius chalk, which is actually garbage and noticeably worse than other chalk
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Feb 2025 03:37:59 UTC No. 224634
>>224554
Work on your falling technique. Be like a cat.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Feb 2025 13:13:24 UTC No. 224665
Anons what are your best recovery tips? What do you do for better recovery between sessions? Foods? Supplements? Esoteric tips? Active recovery tips?
I feel like I am not recovering fast enough after my sessions. I do take a deload week once in a while. But I still get constant minor injuries and aches.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Feb 2025 14:34:55 UTC No. 224671
>>224665
End the session before you are completely gassed so you don't dig yourself a recovery hole. Deload week is too long imo just don't overdo it every session and when you need it take 2 rest days instead of 1.
Active recovery, very light or light exercise, is good but you'll really want to prioritize rest. I like to do some light pulling on a decent edge every day, very low intensity just enough to get some blood flowing. Obviously if you feel any pump at all you're overdoing it. Yoga and stretching is beneficial.
Eat clean when you can, use fresh produce, green vegetables, get 1g/kg minimum or better yet 1g/lbs protein every day.
Supplement creatine and whatever vitamins you might be lacking (zinc, potassium, magnesium) but honestly if you eat well you'll really only need to add some vitamin D in the winter.
If your injuries persist then you'll probably need to strengthen those parts of your body. Keep in mind that when something hurts more than 30s after finishing an exercise you need to not do that anymore. Consult a pro. My own experience is that a dynamic warmup and static stretching afterwards helps a ton, in addition to doing specific exercises for your weak or injuryprone bodyparts. Honestly finding a serious climber without any minor injury or ache is probably near impossible anyway.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:09:44 UTC No. 224681
>>224554
fuck gyms who set like that. there's nothing wrong about a good old victory jug.
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Feb 2025 01:40:34 UTC No. 224747
>>224681
There's a certain beauty in it, because outdoors, God probably sets like a jackass. I AM getting better at those sorts of climbs, I'm slowly overcoming my fear, and doing better at slab shit. So in a way, it makes you better.
>>224671
>End the session before you are completely gassed so you don't dig yourself a recovery hole.
I feel like this gets misinterpreted too often - I say it's better to climb until your performance dips. Otherwise, you might never get that dream project, because you need to be gassed *sometimes*. I stop my sessions once I can't do the crux moves anymore, even if theoretically I could do easier parts of the boulder. Then I just work on technique and stuff without getting pumped. Some days high volume can make you focus on technique imo.
>Honestly finding a serious climber without any minor injury or ache is probably near impossible anyway.
Real. At the end of the day, everyone's going to have some minor ache. My go-to saying is that humans aren't made of glass. Trust your body - if a finger feels tweaky and painful in a way it shouldn't, maybe rethink the climb. But at the same time, sometimes minor aches go away during warmup. Sometimes shit just hurts for no reason, and goes away for no reason.
Rock climbers are among the most convinced that training with ANY kind of pain will lead to their fingers exploding. That's not how it works, and I guarantee you any climber worth their shit has done some stupid shit they shouldn't have and gotten away with it. Moral of the story - Just don't be stupid, and be mindful of your limits. Tissues heal under tension, so even if shit hurts, just climbing lighter may be the only thing one needs.
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Feb 2025 08:17:55 UTC No. 224769
>>224671
Sounds solid. Thanks. What do you think about collagen supplementation? I saw something that it fastens recovery from tendon and joint injuries. Maybe it would have positive effect on recovery between sessions too. Anyone here tried this and saw some benefits?
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Feb 2025 08:26:56 UTC No. 224770
>>224769
I meant hastens not fastens. Fuck me
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Feb 2025 11:39:30 UTC No. 224775
>>224770
>Incorrectly used the word fastens
Too late anon. Your retardation is showing. You're never gonna make it. I'm never going to forget this. This board will never forget this. I've already screenshotted it, and once I dox you I'm going to send it to your friends and family. Are you excited to live life on the outskirts of society?
Can't believe someone as dumb as you exists. Consider suicide? Fucking christ am I sick of losers like you who lack the fundamentals of basic FUCKING grammar. Kill yourself.
>btw collagen supplementation's a meme, not that a retard like you would comprehend that
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Feb 2025 12:58:11 UTC No. 224776
>>224775
This man is my anxiety made manifest. Good bait though.
>>224769
Collagen supplementation is sketchy at best and useless at worst. Don't overcomplicate it, just maximize your protein intake. 1g/lb of bodyweight is a good rule, especially after intense sessions. You don't need creatine, but it definitely helps some people (myself included uwu)
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Feb 2025 19:06:50 UTC No. 224795
>>224747
Outdoors you'll often find sketchy slab or victory jugs or a desperate mantel but rarely are you doing some sketchy sideways dyno at the top. That shit is just lazy route setting.
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Feb 2025 19:09:43 UTC No. 224796
>>224769
U're body synthesizes collagen from amino acid which is gets from the metabolism of protein. When you eat collagen your body still breaks it down into amino acids and then synthesizes it's own collagen later.
Tldr you can just eat protein, it's the same thing
Anonymous at Wed, 26 Feb 2025 22:36:04 UTC No. 224831
>>224795
I'm talking about sketchy slab/desperate mantels. It's not a dyno, dyno, but it feels like one because it's terrifying.
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Mar 2025 12:13:26 UTC No. 225080
In 74 weeks of x2 a week hangboarding
I have gone from not really being able to hang off a 20m edge, to being able to hang for 5 seconds with 37kg added
That's one Kilo gain every two weeks on average
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Mar 2025 16:29:25 UTC No. 225084
>>225080
Do you also climb? If yes, has your climbing improved in any way?
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Mar 2025 16:38:23 UTC No. 225088
I can climb a lot limes at boulder Brighton immediately than I could before
But I trust all this hangboarding will pay off in the end, even it as of yet not immediately notable in terms of grades
🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 2 Mar 2025 15:52:59 UTC No. 225161
Jesus Christ is the Son of GOD who died for our sins and rose from the dead to give us eternal life in heaven. When You ask Him. He also promised to heal your body.
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Mar 2025 16:19:12 UTC No. 225163
>>225088
>Anon spends a year and a half training finger strength
>climbing has not notably improved
Ask me how I know you climb V4.
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Mar 2025 17:21:05 UTC No. 225165
>>225158
Ai Mori is literally the strongest sport climber that exists, don't @ me Janja keks
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Mar 2025 18:49:23 UTC No. 225168
>>225163
it has though
and two years is nothing
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Mar 2025 18:51:06 UTC No. 225169
that's basically what I am saying though desu
it will pay off at the higher grades in the end
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Mar 2025 19:20:04 UTC No. 225172
>>225088
>But I trust all this hangboarding will pay off in the end, even it as of yet not immediately notable in terms of grades
What a pity but I hope it pays off in the end!
I'm more of a system board fan, especially the moonboard but I can't train as often as I'd like to. There the hangboard has a big advantage, you can use it basically every day whenever you want
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Mar 2025 19:23:05 UTC No. 225173
>>225095
>I don't understand why you are mad though. Are you also mad at the billboards outside? Just ignore them like you do with every type of ad
You can't ignore something repeatedly stuffed in your face. Compare how educational channels on Yt like Kurzgesagt advertise sponsors like Brilliant - it's always at the end of videos. Like the picrel you were replying to, climbers shill their shit in the beginning, middle, and end of their obnoxiously long videos.
>why you care for its price?
Because it speaks to his personality - He's a fucking sellout who only cares about profit margins. If my favorite influencer suddenly started promoting bullshit products for ludicrous prices, I'd drop them immediately.
>If you think he didn't influence the popularity of climbing by doing those videos and getting around the fitness world and collabing with other big YouTubers you are delusional.
Never denied his popularity. But clearly you're the one upset because someone criticized him and you're a fan. If you can still enjoy his content, then great! Enjoyment of something is always something that should be celebrated. But don't pretend that his content is good when you look at it for what it is - selling out to produce shitty videos. I don't care if famous people collab if those people are shitty and boring. I can recommend you good climbing channels and videos, don't watch that shit just because: popular
>Man gotta make money somewhere to do those things so what's your point?
That's not a defense of Magnus, that's just an admission that he's selling out. He's already made his money. He has his money. But it's not enough.
>More bullshit products
>More expensive prices
He doesn't care about you getting good gear, he cares about selling you overpriced bullshit because he just wants money. That's the definition of what a sellout is, like picrel that you quoted.
Anonymous at Sun, 2 Mar 2025 19:26:04 UTC No. 225174
>>225169
>in the end
>In the higher grades
What you need right now is footwork and bodytension practice. Fingerstrength will help, but it alone will not make you a better climber. You could have ondra fingers right now and still not climb harder than V9, because you have no clue how to use your body. Don't stop hangboarding, but stop focusing on it like it's the primary driver
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Mar 2025 02:49:43 UTC No. 225241
sprained my pulley. The pop was so loud but my finger is still functional and not in pain, but just no applications of force. Pushing any kind of button or closing the cap on the toothpaste tube hurts.
I'm thinking I'll stick to easy top rope routes that are all jugs just so I don't get too weak.
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Mar 2025 11:19:02 UTC No. 225255
>>225241
You have the right idea. Do Emil no-hangs twice daily, on days you climb do it 6 hours before you start climbing, or after you finish climbing.
Also consider resting two full days between sessions rather than one on, one off.
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Mar 2025 16:31:45 UTC No. 225266
>>225241
If you heard an audible pop you probably tore it at least partially, further evidenced by the fact that even pushing a button hurts. You can put a decent amount of force through a strained pulley without pain, but not a torn one.
You really should get that shit checked out
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Mar 2025 20:08:25 UTC No. 225375
How long did it take you guys to get stronger by climbing shit?
After climbing for a few months now, I still can't do many pull ups or whatever, the only difference I've noticed is I'm not getting as tired.
Maybe I'm getting better at using legs, maybe I'm less of a bitch so I don't deathgrip every hold, but that's probably the only thing so far.
I'm not sure if I should include some gym sessions as well to get in better shape.
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Mar 2025 20:21:51 UTC No. 225377
>>225375
You are doing pullups and hangs in warm ups, and pullups, abs, and back bodyweight exercises after you're done climbing, right anon? Reminder to also do 10 minutes cardio either before or after and stretch dynamically before and statically after. Yoga style stretching will help a lot.
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Mar 2025 21:31:39 UTC No. 225383
>>225375
dunno, i got stronger, but i consider myself still weak. yesterday i climbed with a girl who is about halfway through the gym bouldering grades and she can't do a single pull up.
i imagine training strength would give you a boost, but personally i have more fun just climbing.
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Mar 2025 02:30:48 UTC No. 225578
>>225575
>be me
>Former College Climber in Chicago
Accurate but replace prematurely balding with vaping/smoking weed. Also: I fucking hate you I hope you die.
>tells my friend who uses 4chan about this glorious rebuttal post
>Her eyes roll and she thinks I'm shizo
>But I know
>Deep down I'll always know
>I got the plastic send
>As I seethe in the shower, words appear on my steam coated mirror
>As if the pure hatred I felt for you drew them out for me
>I fucking hate you
>And I hope you die
>The water slipping through my butt crack splashes down with immense fortitude
>"At last..."
>I think
>"My hatred has become real..."
>I summon the power of First Ascent Avondale,
>Of First Ascent Uptown
>Of First Ascent Block 37
>I summon them into my buttcrack, for one glorious shit
>Constipation finally ends
>A warm, soft feeling runs up my chest
>I literally just needed to take a shit
>Climbing is fun again.png
Hope you liked my story anons. Fuck Block 37.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 8 Mar 2025 07:49:07 UTC No. 225595
>>225575
>Chicago
Don't care about Am*rican """climbing"""
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 8 Mar 2025 10:27:37 UTC No. 225607
>>225595
>Ah yes, Eurofag here
>Why yes, my country is indeed poor, but there's an elegance about it
>Why yes, I do have a retarded accent
>Oh my, your houses are certainly much larger than mine, but you see, having an extensive history about it being so shitty for some reason makes it valuable
>Le health care
>*cackling while seething*
Sorry, did anyone ask you?
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Mar 2025 02:15:05 UTC No. 225736
>>225718
fun fact - Did you know First Ascent doesn't let you lead unless you have a grigri? Making it a huge fucking pain in the ass to do it?