Anonymous at Mon, 25 Oct 2021 17:14:03 UTC No. 858215

>>858211
looks like a unity game, just has that look

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Oct 2021 17:16:01 UTC No. 858217

>>858215
close. Its unreal because of course it is.

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Oct 2021 17:23:33 UTC No. 858220

>>858211
>0:47
reminds me of >>855687

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Oct 2021 17:30:17 UTC No. 858221

>>858220
from rockstar to mockstars

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Oct 2021 19:32:55 UTC No. 858233

>>858220
>timecode
stop being a lazy faggot, you are on an image board. Show don't tell retard.

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Oct 2021 21:32:50 UTC No. 858250

>>858233
ok my high melanin colleague

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Oct 2021 21:42:55 UTC No. 858257

>>858211
Looks decent for what was probably a small team that had to work on all the games. The original gta characters were stylized anway and not realistic.

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Oct 2021 21:48:50 UTC No. 858259

>>858250
Of course Rockstar knew how to make proper limb deformation in 2004

>>858257
>decent
Some models are plain bad. They should have just slapped a HD texture or something. Also the artstyle isn't even consistent, it's clashing everywhere. Just look at >>858250

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Oct 2021 22:06:14 UTC No. 858261

>>858250
thanks senpai.
>>858259
not to be some soul loser, but the gritty npr style works better for me. the new models look youtube ad tier

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Oct 2021 22:22:43 UTC No. 858264

>>858261
I think it conveys the environment better too, the house isn't supposed to look fancy, grove street is a crime-ridden, poor neighborhood.

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Oct 2021 22:44:58 UTC No. 858267

>>858250
the thumb is doing a 360 too and the palm texture is fucked. hope this aint the gta6 quality control

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Oct 2021 23:03:25 UTC No. 858272

>>858267
I'm trying to figure out how does this happen. What's the workflow here? Why these hard edges where the skin changes color? Is it not painted in SP or something like that, but instead textures are placed on specific polygons? These look like new, remade textures after all. So many questions, this remaster looks like such a mess. I wonder how big is the studio that worked on it, it would make sense if it was tiny and/or the schedule was ridiculous. And the art director should git gud, because the styles are clashing and it looks just wrong.

Anonymous at Mon, 25 Oct 2021 23:48:50 UTC No. 858275

>>858272
It looks like the same old model and they just seperated the fingers. They could be using the same rig and it could be causing errors with more geometry or they didn't bind it right.

Anonymous at Tue, 26 Oct 2021 00:32:12 UTC No. 858280

>>858272
>I wonder how big is the studio that worked on it
They did some Android ports for Rockstar and I think maybe 2 or 3 really simple generic mobile games. Groove Street Games, formely War Drum Studios.

Anonymous at Tue, 26 Oct 2021 11:09:50 UTC No. 858334

Not directly related, but speaking of studio sizes - why do game journalists and gamers often say things like “only 12 people worked on this game” and ignore all the contractors and outsource studios? Do you think that’s fair to all the other people who contributed to the project?

Maybe I’m more sensitive to it because I work as a freelance outsourcing contractor myself, so it hits close to home, but still. Like, do they not understand if there’s a single environment artist in the core team, and the game is huge, there is no way he created the whole world and shouldn’t be praised like some sort of a god? The thing is that because of this, gamers sometimes like to bitch and insult other studios because “if 10 people can make THIS, then your 100-men studio should reach even higher quality!”. Meanwhile, when you count the outsourcers, both studios maybe had the same team size during the production.

Anonymous at Tue, 26 Oct 2021 11:26:13 UTC No. 858338

>>858334
>why do game journalists and gamers often say things like
because they are retarded.
Case closed.

Anonymous at Tue, 26 Oct 2021 11:47:27 UTC No. 858341

>>858338
See, I’m reading about the Hellblade now, because it’s a similar example, but in that case even Ninja Theory themselves kept saying the game was made with a small team of 20 people, which doesn’t make sense when you actually look at the credits.

Are we external contractors somehow less valuable? It seems so, even though the game wouldn’t be made otherwise.

Another example - Kena. Apparently 15 people produced it, but that is just the core team. Adding fulltime contractors that worked closely with the core team and outsourcing studios, it’s closer to 100 people. And then there are ACTUAL games that were made by 10-20 people with no additional contracting and then some normies might wonder how are those games unable to reach similar fidelity.

Anonymous at Tue, 26 Oct 2021 12:01:58 UTC No. 858342

>>858272
>I'm trying to figure out how does this happen
my best guess would be due to automation. GTA does have huge environments and an incredible amount of models. It makes sense to copy and paste between characters, textures, models, rigs and whatnot. But still, it's rockstar, a studio that thrashes out games that cost 800 million to produce...

I don't know what my point is, I've played GTA3, VC and SA when they came out, as PC ports, and VC even on flights on my iphone (finished it with those god awful controls, it was a good distraction from flight anxiety).
I feel like 30yo boomers aren't the target audience for this. But would zoomers have a go at the definitive edition after whoring around GTA online for 5 years?

Anonymous at Tue, 26 Oct 2021 12:30:29 UTC No. 858346

>>858272
I'm thinking of the same reasons as >>858342, maybe there were just too much shit to be ported with automation that the QC Team couldn't see it for some reason.

Anonymous at Tue, 26 Oct 2021 12:36:29 UTC No. 858347

>>858211
what the fuck

Anonymous at Tue, 26 Oct 2021 13:27:13 UTC No. 858354

This is fucking pathetic, with all the money shitstar has they had the possibility to make a great remake like shadow of the colossus PS4 by bluepoint games, instead they come out with this trash. Fuck them and fuck the 30 yo niggers who buy their stuff.

Anonymous at Tue, 26 Oct 2021 16:24:12 UTC No. 858384

>>858211
if u guys wanna get angry check this out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAB-dJ8Qfi0

Anonymous at Tue, 26 Oct 2021 17:28:26 UTC No. 858394

>>858384
>hover cursor on link
>that onions face
no thanks

Anonymous at Tue, 26 Oct 2021 17:31:42 UTC No. 858397

>>858384
Gesus Christ, the absolute state of amerimutt söy boomers

Anonymous at Thu, 28 Oct 2021 10:04:28 UTC No. 858789

>>858347
>>858259
>>858267
I think why the model looked shit is because they forgot to put ambient occlusion on base color hence the soulless look on the model.
But that can't be helped on the awful head redesign on vice city characters

Anonymous at Thu, 28 Oct 2021 10:22:46 UTC No. 858791

>>858789
I still don't get how they fucked up the fingers this bad.

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Oct 2021 17:19:22 UTC No. 859178

>>858211
Not only do all the models look like a 12-year old made it, they also butchered the style and replaced it with this playdough piece of shit style

Honestly this type of stylization won't look good regardless of the competency of the artist, it's doomed from the start to be atrocious

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Oct 2021 18:00:57 UTC No. 859188

GTA sucks ass, no matter what year

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Oct 2021 19:53:21 UTC No. 859220

>>858789
>soulless look
Shut up zoomer !

>I think why the model looked shit is because
> to put ambient occlusion on base color

I explain something to you zoomer. The original games did have fucked up anatomy and you know this if you played them to death.

Now instead of using a generic human model from GTA 5 or whatever they managed to model extra geometry to themes models despite the characters still having the same proportions so fucked up anatomy.

This entire shit looks like they used some AI to upscale it all or something.

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Oct 2021 20:06:51 UTC No. 859223

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/gta-trilogy-seemingly-removes-the-confederate-flag-from-vice-city/1100-6497449/

This is industry standard too.

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Nov 2021 21:48:18 UTC No. 861179

>>859223
Stop whining all the fucking time

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Nov 2021 02:00:08 UTC No. 861213

>>861179
Pot callling kettle.

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Nov 2021 04:54:24 UTC No. 861229

>>858217
I've still seen better from someone who wasn't trying as hard.
https://youtu.be/3DjY1T42b_M
https://youtu.be/2PBIFunhha4
Who wants to make a GTA boys?

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Nov 2021 11:54:22 UTC No. 861261

>>861229
>I made XY in a week
sure looks like it

Anonymous at Wed, 10 Nov 2021 12:16:23 UTC No. 861268

>>858354
Bluepoint remake also sucks tho

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Nov 2021 01:31:29 UTC No. 861423

>>858791
Why does he look like Ricky in The Definitive Edition
Huge misstep

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Nov 2021 02:44:12 UTC No. 861433

Art direction of this game is one of the biggest mysteries. So many questions, so many things not making sense.

I also noticed how fucked is the lighting, did they make it as shitty as possible on purpose? You have to put effort to make the default UE lighting that bad. What about AO? I guess it has to run on mobiles, maybe all of this is because the real goal are mobile g*mers.

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Nov 2021 03:05:25 UTC No. 861434

>>858259
it's not limb deformation, it's good topology

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Nov 2021 04:13:45 UTC No. 861599

>>861433
Possibly heavily constrained because maybe the VR port was the priority here
Probably not though as other facebergVR titles don't look that fucked up lmao

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Nov 2021 11:59:54 UTC No. 861636

How did they do it?

Anonymous at Fri, 12 Nov 2021 18:39:00 UTC No. 861697

>>861433
PS2 era GTAs always had shit aesthetics when compared with same era jap titles, but at least it was consistent, and truly a technological marvel at the time
Definitive edition won't be worth remembering in a few years

Anonymous at Mon, 15 Nov 2021 02:36:45 UTC No. 862143

>>859220
>This entire shit looks like they used some AI to upscale it all or something.
It's because they did.

Anonymous at Mon, 15 Nov 2021 03:38:17 UTC No. 862151

>>861636
by using blender

Anonymous at Mon, 15 Nov 2021 04:18:56 UTC No. 862156

>>862151
this is woefully bad, why couldn't they just use a better font rather than those ugly paint.net ones?
how this is official is just beyond me

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 01:10:16 UTC No. 862321

>applies subdivision surface modifier

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 01:16:22 UTC No. 862322

>>862321
>smoothing the nut
these guys are really nuts

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 01:34:16 UTC No. 862323

>>862321
Oh no

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 01:39:18 UTC No. 862324

>>862322
CARLOS

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 01:49:44 UTC No. 862325

>>862321
Absolute smooth brains.

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 02:09:42 UTC No. 862331

>>862151
The spelling errors are intentional right?

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 02:14:43 UTC No. 862333

>>862151
No fucking way
>>862321
NO FUCKING WAY

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 02:16:59 UTC No. 862334

This is what you get for outsourcing your shit to Indian sweatshops.

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 02:44:50 UTC No. 862337

>>858280
Why the fuck did they decide that making an official release and getting some indian mobileshit studio to do it would be a good idea?
Fuck Rockstar in the ass, i hope they go bankrupt,but still. The old games never needed a remake, but if they chose to, why couldn't they develop it themselves?

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 04:10:25 UTC No. 862343

>>862331
There's way more. This shit was clearly outsourced

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 04:43:22 UTC No. 862351

>>862343
that slab of concrete background is so painful to look at compared to the original

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 11:38:26 UTC No. 862410

>>862325
>it only takes 16 seconds of work to get hired at rockstar today
from shrinking horse balls to causin pause because they made a remaster so bad it dropped all jaws.

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 11:41:07 UTC No. 862411

>>862343
>DEPRESSO

MY SIDES

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 12:41:36 UTC No. 862420

This can’t be an “””AI’s””” fault like people are saying, right? There are actual retards who made all these mistakes by hand. Unbelievable shit. Did anyone check the credits yet to see what kind of outsourcing they had?

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 13:01:49 UTC No. 862424

>>862343
>depresso
hahaha, holy shit

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 13:14:16 UTC No. 862428

>>862420
Outsourced to poos

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 13:34:58 UTC No. 862432

>>862343
>DEPRESSO
DEPRESSO
>DEPRESSO
LOL

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 13:46:43 UTC No. 862435

>>858259
>chimplord

lol niggers

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 13:48:34 UTC No. 862436

>>858221
lol what even are facial proportions?

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 13:50:37 UTC No. 862437

>>859223
cucks. can't even talk about history

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 13:51:38 UTC No. 862439

>>861179
>>861213
whining is all libtards do. why can't they have non faggo sex

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 14:32:52 UTC No. 862444

Is this definitive edition reprogrammed from the ground up or just a patched up version of the original with some "HD" mod on top?

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 14:39:40 UTC No. 862447

>>862444
They did some weird Unreal thing, seems to be like a wrapper of sorts.

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 19:52:06 UTC No. 862509

>>861268
>Bluepoint remake also sucks
They are still 1000 times better than this shit

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 19:54:13 UTC No. 862511

>>862343
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF CÜCKSTAR

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 20:44:24 UTC No. 862529

inb4 someone posts the fake big smoke topology

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 20:46:58 UTC No. 862531

>>862343
When the AI upscaled textures look better than the human created, I mean Indian created textures...

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 21:05:55 UTC No. 862536

>>862529
Sir, do NOT redeem those polygons.

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 21:14:14 UTC No. 862537

Deep down in my hart i believe that they just hitbSubdivide for every mesh

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 21:22:52 UTC No. 862541

>>862536
what if it was just a dream

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 21:49:02 UTC No. 862547

>>862529
Even if this is the real one, why are there so many edge loops around his face?
t. I never modelled a face

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 21:50:50 UTC No. 862548

>>862547
For facial animation. Games always make the heads higher poly for that, been a thing since the HL2 days

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 21:54:43 UTC No. 862549

>>862548
Yes i know but, isnt it a little too much for models that came from a PS2 game? San andreas' face animations weren't great, and i doubt they remade every lipsync sequence.
There are even lots of polygons in the ears. Couldn't they have came up with something a little less intense?
Just disregard my reply if i'm talking BS. I just make props, anyways.

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 21:57:34 UTC No. 862550

>>862549
No you're right.
I don't believe they upped the facial animation quality, so it just comes off as a waste of polygons than using something like a normal map.

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 23:25:30 UTC No. 862572

>>862444
it's been ported into unreal engine, it's still running on the old code. it has all the old jank with some new jank added on top from doing that.

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 23:49:36 UTC No. 862577

>>862343
Still dont know why they AI upscaled most of these things. It's not like there were a lot of areas like this in the original. Would have taken a few days at most to go through every shopfront.

Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 23:53:35 UTC No. 862580

>>862577
That's not AI upscaled anon, it's pajeet designed.

Anonymous at Wed, 17 Nov 2021 01:03:58 UTC No. 862594

>>861229
>select all textures
>click 'AI upscale'
>job done

Jesus Christ

Anonymous at Wed, 17 Nov 2021 05:29:27 UTC No. 862617

>>862572
The games that they "remaster" were the mobile ports of these games.

Anonymous at Wed, 17 Nov 2021 12:12:48 UTC No. 862652

>>862151
>>862321
What is wrong with these images, Sir?

Anonymous at Wed, 17 Nov 2021 14:50:56 UTC No. 862688

>>862652
nothing sir
it's just industry standard sir

Anonymous at Wed, 17 Nov 2021 14:59:42 UTC No. 862690

>>862410
tfw I was rejected when I applied in 2008 I think.

Anonymous at Wed, 17 Nov 2021 15:03:47 UTC No. 862691

>>862343
>SOPS
houdinichads confirmed

Anonymous at Wed, 17 Nov 2021 16:06:09 UTC No. 862700

Time for a depresso break, anon?

Anonymous at Thu, 18 Nov 2021 12:01:35 UTC No. 862891

>>862690
That was still ball shrinker rockstar. You should reapply

Anonymous at Sat, 20 Nov 2021 22:23:25 UTC No. 863506

nice to see gamefreak puts the same industry standard as rockstar for texture mapping only 2 tiny islands used

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Dec 2021 00:05:30 UTC No. 865971

>>858211
Diversity hires instead of skill hires, but everyone wants to ignore the issue, like many things nowadays.
Encouragement of mediocrity=Media on freefall
"I worked hard on this pile of shit X amount of hours, so it must mean something, reward me!"

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Dec 2021 00:08:04 UTC No. 865972

>>858250
>everything clashing with everything, no consistency
>>858259
>uniformed
modern times in a nutshell

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Dec 2021 00:09:50 UTC No. 865974

>>858347
butcher the world's atmosphere directly tied to the tone
modern rockstar's top tier quality control in full display, they saw this and said, yep, sell it.

Anonymous at Wed, 1 Dec 2021 10:38:00 UTC No. 866053

>>858250
>>858259
old one is unironically more realistic

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Dec 2021 19:32:21 UTC No. 867335

>>858347
Mr. Burns?

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Dec 2021 19:39:29 UTC No. 867341

>>867335
Yeeeeeeeees

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Dec 2021 20:04:28 UTC No. 867352

>>867341
cool it with the anti-semitic remarks, dude

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Dec 2021 20:38:00 UTC No. 867372

>>867352
Nice projection asswhipe

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Dec 2021 22:47:36 UTC No. 867402

>>858257
They look like shit and deserve all the hate they get.

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Dec 2021 23:49:48 UTC No. 867414

>>862410
this wasnt done by rockstar it was done by a shity mobile phone port company rockstar outsources to

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Dec 2021 00:47:38 UTC No. 867435

>>867414
>>867410
cope

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Dec 2021 06:10:43 UTC No. 867510

>>862580
What's the difference? =)

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Dec 2021 11:34:26 UTC No. 867550

>>867510
AI can keep more details from the original

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Dec 2021 12:47:30 UTC No. 867559

>>867550
kek

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Dec 2021 13:44:17 UTC No. 867569

>>867550
That's literally impossible.

t. Shannon

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Dec 2021 13:51:43 UTC No. 867572

>>867569
The alternative is pajeet so yeah, I believe on the impossible.

Anonymous at Mon, 6 Dec 2021 14:58:56 UTC No. 867586

>>867414
didn't ask you literal faggot

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Dec 2021 02:55:59 UTC No. 869869

>>858211
why does he look like a lego character without being a lego character?