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🧵 blender is a failure
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 19:13:19 UTC No. 859463
Alright alright, let's see what happened with blender.
I WANTED TO MAKE ASSETS LIKE THIS, SO I DECIDED TO USE THE DONUT BLENDER TUTORIAL, MANY TIMES I ATTEMPTED THIS.
Here are the two threads I made about this
>>858303
>>854885
NOW IT TURNS OUT I CANT USE BLENDER, SO TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED NOW
WHY CANT I USE BLENDER
NO WHY DOES BLENDER INSIST IN FUCKING ME LIKE THAT
What should I use instead?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 19:54:22 UTC No. 859472
>>859463
get gud nigga.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 20:02:50 UTC No. 859474
>>859463
Blender is not the be all and end all software, but in this particular case you are the failure.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 20:03:16 UTC No. 859475
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 20:15:25 UTC No. 859480
>>859475
>>859463
I get the feeling, you're following instructions to a T and there are things that don't work. If searching online doesn't work, you should ask questions in an active discord for Blender as opposed to here. This board is inactive and people know how to fix their mistakes.
In the meantime, put aside the donut tutorial for now and start on a project. Ask yourself questions like:
1. How would I model a character like that?
2. Do I want my models to be real time 3d models or rendered images?
3. If it is angled in an isometric way, can my character get away with less detail while making it readable?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 20:55:32 UTC No. 859487
>>859475
i understand your frustration. I started 3d with an interest in making low-poly animations as a one man team. you can do it anon, but you have to keep your spirit up. I don't mean to be patronizing, but you have to calm down. remember that nobody here is obligated to help, you cannot come as a beggar and behave as a king.
You can very easily create those graphics in blender. can you elucidate any immediate issues you need help with? maybe start with the most important first. I can help you.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 21:17:05 UTC No. 859490
>>859463
If you want to create rendered background images like those in planescape torment, there's really very little need for you to be following the doughnut tutorial.
Half the battle in 3D art is learning the interface of whatever software you're using, and understanding how different parameters will alter models.
Fuck the stupid donut tutorial. I doubt anyone here ever did the stupid donut tutorial.
Decide what you actually want to make. Draw it on paper first if you want to. Then start modelling. When you want to do something but don't know how to, search youtube for how to do THAT SPECIFIC THING. If you value your time, set the search filter only show videos under 4 minutes long - this will give you fast, no-bullshit answers.
If you don't even know what you should be searching for, ask people.
ALSO: Feel free to use assets made by other people. It might feel like cheating, but you're honestly a fool if you waste hours, days or weeks of your time modelling something that you could've just downloaded and imported into your scene.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 21:20:49 UTC No. 859491
>>859490
I second this. the issue that I am seeing you have with the donut tutorial isn't easy for me to help with unless i could get a copy of your blend file, and besides, i don't think you really need the donut tutorial to be honest. I think it's not the best route to use if you're learning 3d for a specific purpose.
In general i only watch tutorials that cover a very specific issue. i don't think you need the donut to do what you're trying to, not at all.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 22:17:45 UTC No. 859501
>>859463
Disco Elysium was done in Blender.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 22:58:53 UTC No. 859506
>>859463
Good luck op I am also a noob
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 23:37:34 UTC No. 859512
>>859501
Blender has never been as powerful and useful as it is now. There's no justification for the idea that it couldn't be used to make something as easy as what OP is asking for. But patience is a virtue
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 23:59:27 UTC No. 859516
>>859501
I thought that was all kitbashed 2d stuff.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 05:03:26 UTC No. 859546
>>859490
>>859487
>>859480
Sorry for the laconic reply, OP here.
I just want to know how to start working on assets similar to Planescape, characters, backgrounds but I can't even finish the donut.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 05:08:24 UTC No. 859548
>>859546
upload your .blend file to catbox moe and people will diagnose the issue for you.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 12:10:26 UTC No. 859581
>>859546
>I can't even finish the donut.
Having looked at it, I don't think there's actually anything wrong with your donut, and that you're worrying about clipping that's going to disappear as soon as you add the solidify modifier.
Either way, fuck the stupid ass donut, it's not gonna help you model anything other than donuts. Honestly, it's a shit tutorial that teaches almost nothing. Literally multiple steps backward from the classic 'how to model a teapot' tutorials of the 90's.
Do what I said in >>859490
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 12:20:03 UTC No. 859584
Really updated my journal
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 19:49:13 UTC No. 859649
>>859546
You need to learn modeling, texturing, and rigging. Rigging is only for moving characters though, as it's a function of attaching a mesh to an animated skeleton.
Where do you want to start? Backgrounds or characters? Know that it is always the most painful in the beginning, but that you get much faster as time progresses.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Nov 2021 04:53:06 UTC No. 859729
>>859548
No need for that.
>>859581
>>859649
So I should abandon the donut then? What to use?
I want to start modelling characters, definitely not high detail and not meant to be seen in high res or up close, Planescape level, how can I do that?
>>859516
>>859501
Here's what they did.
http://devblog.fortressoccident.com
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Nov 2021 10:48:33 UTC No. 860023
>>859729
>I want to start modelling characters, definitely not high detail and not meant to be seen in high res or up close, Planescape level, how can I do that?
Once again: Don't bother modelling them. I almost guarantee the Planescape Torment devs rendered some stock bodies only modeled clothing on top of them.
https://opengameart.org/content/cha
This is lower poly than what they rendered for planescape, but it's set up and ready to render to sprites if that's what you want to do.
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Nov 2021 15:06:43 UTC No. 860050
>>860023
Ok, that's now what I expected.
So how about environments and assets?
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Nov 2021 19:19:34 UTC No. 860065
>>859729
>http://devblog.fortressoccident.co
This isn't all they did!
https://www.nma-fallout.com/threads
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Nov 2021 19:27:03 UTC No. 860068
>>860065
http://devblog.fortressoccident.com
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Nov 2021 22:10:59 UTC No. 860104
if you're wanting to go for that old pre-rendered PC graphics look, just turn down your light bounces to 0. Old render engines couldnt do light bounces so anything not directly hit by light is pitch black
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Nov 2021 04:33:25 UTC No. 860150
Bump
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Nov 2021 06:40:06 UTC No. 860157
>>860150
Instead of waiting to be spoonfed everything, why don't you go do something?
You made this thread the better part of a week ago. That's almost a week in which you could have tried to put together a scene or a character, but instead you're just asking for magic answers.
There is no easy trick. There is nothing we can tell you that is gonna solve everything for you and make it so that you know what you're doing.
Learn by doing.
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Anonymous at Fri, 5 Nov 2021 07:21:51 UTC No. 860160
>>860157
i will beat op to death with a bent spoon
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Nov 2021 03:45:55 UTC No. 860331
>>860157
>>860160
I can always make more threads, you refuse to help me? Ok then.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Nov 2021 03:48:24 UTC No. 860332
>>860157
I don't know how to do it and why invest time into something you don't know, if the conditions for something are not ideal then why bother?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Nov 2021 09:49:24 UTC No. 860368
>>860331
>I can always make more threads, you refuse to help me? Ok then.
You don't want to be helped, you want someone to wave a magic wand that will transfer 15 years of knowledge into your brain in an instant. It can't be done.
You are not going to learn this without effort and frustration on your part.
>>860332
>why invest time into something you don't know, if the conditions for something are not ideal then why bother?
You are never going to get anywhere in life with this attitude. If you want 'ideal' conditions then go drop $100k on a degree from some california commie school. Until then, learn to take people's advice and put your own effort in rather than expect to be spoonfed every little thing for free.
You've been told what to do, you've been told how to search for relevant tutorials. You're not asking any pertinent questions here, like 'how do I extrude this shape without getting flattened' or something specific we can realistically help you with. Instead you asking for total answers to everything and not understanding that answer would be a 700+ page book that would be out of date by the time it was published.
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Anonymous at Sun, 7 Nov 2021 18:26:57 UTC No. 860674
I love how people on this board always blame the tool when they're too inept to figure out the most basic shit.
Always.
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Anonymous at Fri, 19 Nov 2021 21:21:15 UTC No. 863214
>>859463
>WHY CANT I USE BLENDER
I made this in blender !
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Anonymous at Fri, 19 Nov 2021 21:33:16 UTC No. 863216
>>859463
>I WANTED TO MAKE ASSETS LIKE THIS, SO I DECIDED TO USE THE DONUT BLENDER TUTORIAL, MANY TIMES I ATTEMPTED THIS.
Let me tell you a secret.
While blender is free literally no free tutorial will tell you how to use it to create what you have in your brain.
Want to know how to model in blender like this ? Pay me to teach you. Simple as.
I made this in blender.
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Anonymous at Fri, 19 Nov 2021 22:25:56 UTC No. 863228
>>859463
You misspelled “I’m a failure” It’s ok anon, you’ll get there.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Nov 2021 22:35:04 UTC No. 863231
>>863214
Did you create this to be fragile and terrible to print on purpose?
Print the parts seperately and glue them together you dingus, this print will take way too long and eventually break while cleaning it up.
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Anonymous at Fri, 19 Nov 2021 22:36:06 UTC No. 863233
>>863216
>I made this in blender.
Yeah, I see that.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Nov 2021 22:50:31 UTC No. 863241
>>863233
>Yeah, I see that.
What about this >>863214 ?
>Yeah, I see that.
Make it better in whatever you like and post it here.
PS: it was supposed to be in this pokemon simple style.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Nov 2021 22:53:31 UTC No. 863242
>>863231
>Did you create this to be fragile and terrible to print on purpose?
No. I simply go with the creative flow.
>Print the parts seperately
Cool I first make the base model and see how it looks then I can split it into parts for you to print. Literally no fucken need for that if most fagots are not interested in printing it, tell me you will print it and I do that so you can post the photo how it looks after printing.
Oh wait you will not do that ? Yea no need for me to do extra work for literally no one then.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Nov 2021 22:58:56 UTC No. 863244
>>863242
No need to get butthurt, I was merely busting your balls a bit at worst.
You posted this Chitubox screenshot so I assumed you were preparing this for printing, seperating the model decreased printing time and material waste. Whatever.
Anonymous at Fri, 19 Nov 2021 23:02:54 UTC No. 863246
>>863244
>You posted this Chitubox
Because I like how it uses shading, some details are not easy to see in the default blender preview. I'm a modeler not a renderer.
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Anonymous at Fri, 19 Nov 2021 23:09:39 UTC No. 863250
>>863233
Rate this.
Anonymous at Fri, 26 Nov 2021 19:17:39 UTC No. 864991
>>859546
you're just retarded