🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 09:30:04 UTC No. 15874829
Actually staging at Page 10 Edition
previous: >>15872041
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 09:35:18 UTC No. 15874837
Any word on the reason stage 2 blew up yet?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 09:41:39 UTC No. 15874852
>>15874837
For now our best bet is some sort of depressurization and oxygen leak which caused the flight computer to decide to FTS early as it wasn’t going to make it’s intended trajectory
🗑️ sage at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 09:48:51 UTC No. 15874864
JANNNNYYYY HE DID IT AGAIN
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 09:54:20 UTC No. 15874872
Holy shit you fucking retard did you not see the messages that said every other /sfg/ splinter was deleted?? That janny was literally in the thread and deleted every splinter thread as it was staged??? Yes, you did but youre just fucking baiting and ruining our threads for no reason. Is that you Noa? Are you still impotently seething? Actually, I know its you because you made the launch thread which had a hidden starfox logo in it and it has the exact same fucking set up as this one does in the OP. Absolute fucking tumor.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:25:08 UTC No. 15874913
>>15874888
I want to thrust into this with a hot a steaming nuclear rod.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:27:35 UTC No. 15874918
>>15874852
What are the chances a vacuum raptor did an STS-93 reenactment?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:29:24 UTC No. 15874920
>>15874913
apparently with MMRTGs on some hypothetical European rover, there is a real concern that in some accident it could melt all the way down to the ocean.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:30:58 UTC No. 15874924
>>15874920
>humanity's first interaction with alien life is dropping hot plutonium on it
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:30:59 UTC No. 15874925
DÉCOLLAGE!
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:36:23 UTC No. 15874930
>>15874903
That pic desperately needs an update. With every word being tranny potentially.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:36:57 UTC No. 15874931
>>15874864
Fuck off faggot, i actually waited the right time to stage, i’m not the schizo who’s been splitting /sfg/ the past couple days.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:38:30 UTC No. 15874935
>>15874872
I don’t give a fuck, ALL of these fucking early stage threads are void and i don’t fucking care, faggots who stage early need to learn their fucking place and understand that the ONLY thread that will be used is the one thats made after previous one hits page 10
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:38:44 UTC No. 15874936
>>15874852
That sounds like just a wild guess, unless I missed some new information that came out recently.
The destruction of stage 1 has some plausible explanations, but it seems like the rationale for cutting short the stage 2 test is still probably a mystery.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:39:01 UTC No. 15874937
https://blogs.nasa.gov/webb/2023/09
>Webb Confirms Accuracy of Universe’s Expansion Rate Measured by Hubble, Deepens Mystery of Hubble Constant Tension
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:40:53 UTC No. 15874940
>>15874924
All these planets are yours, except Europa. We've seen you dump nuclear fuel into the ocean on Enceladus and we don't like it.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:41:56 UTC No. 15874941
Engines being installed now on next booster
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:42:27 UTC No. 15874942
>>15874935
Agree, we shouldn't incentivize early stagers by posting in those threads.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:43:52 UTC No. 15874944
>>15874927
Saturn is sooo fucking ugly, it should be blown up!
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:45:52 UTC No. 15874946
>>15874935
This. Check your staging.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJJ
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:53:55 UTC No. 15874954
>>15874950
whens the next launch
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:57:25 UTC No. 15874960
>>15874959
no spin stabilization?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:59:54 UTC No. 15874962
>>15874960
Probably could be built in pairs and counterrotate, would need some active stabilization mechanism still, albeit.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:02:28 UTC No. 15874965
I read that the chinks have powerpoint plans to build space solar power.
If they copy starship then pursue that scheme it will be amazing because there will be an actual space race on again, and this time with major economic consequences. I expect the DOD to find 1 trillion of a solar megaconstellation as soon as China starts building one.
Chinks landing on the Moon would have similar effect but unfortunately I think they will leave that to happen on the 100th annieversary of the founding of the PRC in october 2049
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:05:39 UTC No. 15874968
>>15874965
they should just start launching mirrors into space and renting them out like a timeshare
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:07:33 UTC No. 15874969
>>15874954
two weeks
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:07:39 UTC No. 15874970
>>15874965
How would you transmit the power down to Earth?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:11:58 UTC No. 15874973
>>15874965
>powerpoint plans
Even Spacex's powerpoint rockets (MCT, ITS, BFR) will never happen. I need to see actual physical stuff being built to believe anything.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:12:04 UTC No. 15874974
>>15874970
microwaves. space based solar power is basically WMDs in space.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:13:34 UTC No. 15874975
>>15874954
Elon's preliminary estimate is that they'll be ready in 3 to 4 weeks. No other datapoints are available.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:14:47 UTC No. 15874977
>>15874975
have they made any statements since the launch? where did they explain what happened to the upper stage?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:16:23 UTC No. 15874978
I think an Europan submarine is feasible,
Use a nuclear energy source to produce heat to melt through the 20km ice crust, and to power the submarine. Communication works through sonar, the sonar waves travel through the water and ice, and get picked up by a surface relay, which then converts it to radio waves and sends it to Earth. I'm not sure how long it would take to melt through the ice crust, we can make the following estimate, the submarine is a cylindrical shape with a radius of 0.15m. So to get to the ocean it basically has to melt a 15cm bore of length of 20km. The volume of the ice to be melted is 1413 cubic meters. melting 1g of ice take 334 joules, melting 1kg of ice takes 334 kJ, melting 1000kg of ice (~1 cubic meter) takes 334 MJ. So melting 1413 cubic meters of ice takes 471942 MJ. This heat is generated by a 2 kW source in 235.971.000 seconds = 7.5 years. This calculation does not take into account the heat needed to bring ice to it's melting point and the inefficiency associated with this process, for example the submarine will also heat the side of the bore which is basically wasted heat. But we can play with the setup here a little bit, for example maybe the submarine can be thinner or the nuclear source stronger. And Europa Clipper will Characterize the thickness of the crust and at some points the crust is thinner, perhaps only 5km, the submarine could be deployed there. Other issues include survivability of the surface relay in the high radiation environment of the surface of Europa. Personally I think many interesting instruments fit inside a 10 cm diameter cylinder: Cameras, temperature sensors, spectrometers, lights, electronics, propulsion, sonar. And also consider that there is a long history of NASA MMRTG powered missions lasting a long time. This submarine would only have a few moving parts. No reason it couldn't work for decades.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:16:47 UTC No. 15874980
>>15874977
That's a no to both. They've posted some spectacular footage, though
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:19:12 UTC No. 15874982
Repostan in the new thread: What's the best name for Australia's first lunar rover?
>https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-1
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:22:15 UTC No. 15874983
>>15874965
I don't see how that could ever be feasible, maybe with mirrors as some other anon said but that could also be used as a weapon.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:28:04 UTC No. 15874987
all those other stages were radial, and of fuel tanks, no less. Not real stages.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:32:05 UTC No. 15874990
>15874986
well done spaye sex and elmo muskrate for INVENTING... *drumroll please*... REUSABLE LAUNCH PADS!
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:32:52 UTC No. 15874991
>>15874986
gonna be as good as new after a good rain
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:33:20 UTC No. 15874993
>>15874980
What's the cloud thats "venting" (?) from Super Heavy?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:36:22 UTC No. 15874996
>>15874991
didn't you hear, rain is a destructive environmental catastrophe in boca chica. Spacex will be sued to hell if that's allowed on their watch.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:46:18 UTC No. 15875003
>>15874993
There's still (unavoidably) propellants in the engines at shutdown, which flows out of the engine as cold gas.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:50:40 UTC No. 15875008
So there will be no FAA or FWS investigation this time?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:54:35 UTC No. 15875015
>>15875008
SpaceX does anomaly investigation with FAA oversight. They "submit" paper to FAA. FAA reviews the findings and the implementation of the fixes. It approves the next flight. All in all, they get real time feedback from FAA on if there were any procedures they missed.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:57:55 UTC No. 15875021
>>15874980
I think that's the most beautiful rocket footage I've ever seen
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 11:58:55 UTC No. 15875023
How did twitter decide to leak most of L2 before /sfg/? I think they're planning on releasing more through a torrent.
https://twitter.com/AstroEvada/stat
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 12:01:41 UTC No. 15875027
Yay, another starlink launch. I wonder how much it costs them to build a F9 second stage.
>>15874980
The booster inner engines relighting two by two <3
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 12:02:11 UTC No. 15875028
>>15875023
Holy based. Lots of early Apollo-Saturn kino.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 12:07:12 UTC No. 15875030
>>15875023
God damn. I'm seriously happy that SpaceX is recording all of their Starship launches with IMAX cameras, film is so fucking superior.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 12:07:29 UTC No. 15875031
>>15874982
Those are so lame
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 12:09:02 UTC No. 15875035
>>15875030
It has some pros over digital. Like not needing rolling shutter correction for close views.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 12:11:24 UTC No. 15875038
>>15874982
Kakirra sounds the best, although I consider abo languages a joke.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 12:11:54 UTC No. 15875040
>>15875023
because the 'leaks' are just shit that is public domain and buried deep in nasa archives online. It's just that los dos autists collate the more interesting things they pull out. It's like complaining about somebody putting an old game behind a paywall when they just grabbed it off archive.org like anyone else could
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 12:18:48 UTC No. 15875046
>>15875028
>no smoking
Imagine.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 12:38:54 UTC No. 15875069
>>15874936
the interface on the stream showed that LOx started dropping faster than LMe before the end, probably a leak of some kind. in terms of the booster, there's a brief moment where the ship's thrust pushes down on the booster and it decelerates faster than 1g, meaning potential fuel sloshing and feed issues
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 12:41:46 UTC No. 15875071
>>15875067
too close to call.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 12:49:37 UTC No. 15875075
>>15874980
What's really cool about this is that you can see the SL raptors on S25 were gimballed away on startup and then move back after separation to provide max thrust
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 12:54:28 UTC No. 15875077
>>15874936
>>15875069
Stage 2 was also the reason for the first hold on Saturday due to not reaching flight pressure
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 12:54:49 UTC No. 15875078
>>15874285
>booster 11 ship 28 is going to be the next pairing, static fire next week
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 12:55:06 UTC No. 15875079
>they've already assembled scaffolding on the OLM
damn SpaceX is fast
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 12:58:03 UTC No. 15875080
>>15874980
any videos with less compression
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 12:58:19 UTC No. 15875081
>>15875079
I haven't seen a construction crew that is slow to build scaffolding. Whether they do it safely is another matter.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 13:00:36 UTC No. 15875083
>>15875069
Plus you can see that only the engines on one side of the booster failed (at least at the beginning of the relight), so yeah probably fuel sloshing, probably one or more engine exploding which doomed the rest.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 13:00:47 UTC No. 15875084
>>15875081
I'm mostly impressed that they aren't wasting time, but are already working on cleaning/refurbishing the OLM. It seems to me that they want to start the next booster test campaign.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 13:04:01 UTC No. 15875087
>>15874965
Space microwaves would make ships and blimps OP
Just spin some propellers with space microwaves
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 13:06:52 UTC No. 15875089
>>15875003
Why isn't there a residual burn of the propellants? Do they choke out oxygen first or what.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 13:14:58 UTC No. 15875100
>>15875089
Anon, the pressure is so low up there that the gasses expand and cool so rapidly that they can't maintain combustion. This is why rocket plumes turn invisible at high altitude too, the plumes expand so quickly they just can't stay ignited.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 13:19:56 UTC No. 15875111
>>15875083
the engines explode when they dont burn anymore? seems a little dangerous to me. they are like the sharks of the sky. femongated muskrat can keep his shitship.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 13:35:57 UTC No. 15875134
>>15874837
btw what is the timeline for IFT1? I don't remember it exactly but wasnt it something like
>3 raptors don't start up during liftoff so the liftoff is very slow, total thrust 10% less, net thrust over gravity 23% less
>fondag pad gets blasted for much longer than planned so the sand under the pad gets compressed, pad gets pushed down and cracks, exhaust gases gets through the cracks and under the pad and blow the concrete to 200m and subsequently the unprotected sand gets dug out by 30 raptors
>the raptors or rocket itself doesn't get damaged by flying debris according to elon, but there are leaks everywhere which start fires
>raptors get disabled/explode due to fires, raptor gimbaling system (hydraulic thrust vector control) starts burning and explodes at some point
>they don't even try to stage due to altitude being too low or can't due it due to something being fucked, also lost control because the thrust vector control system exploded
>stack starts to turn around and spin, FTS is triggered but they are too weak for Starship so the stack continues to do somersaults before eventually breaking down after 40 seconds and exploding
mostly everything got fixed for IFT-2 but like 6 different items on the FAA problems list got postponed and all of it was with regards to leaks in the lines or raptors either in superheavy or starship (except quick disconnect arm has a problem with LOX leakage I guess?)
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 13:37:15 UTC No. 15875137
>>15875032
> WASHINGTON — Sierra Space laid off 165 employees who had been working on its Dream Chaser vehicle as part of what the company described as efforts to realign its workforce to other projects.
>A company spokesperson confirmed Nov. 17 that it laid off 165 people who had been working to assemble the first Dream Chaser vehicle, named Tenacity. The company announced Nov. 2 that it had completed Tenacity and was ready to ship it to NASA’s Armstrong Test Facility in Ohio for environmental tests.
>Sierra Space said it had performed “surge hiring” in the last six to eight months to complete Tenacity, including handling work that the company decided to bring in-house. With that work completed, the company says it is moving its focus to preparing Dream Chaser for launch on its first mission, scheduled for as soon as spring 2024.
so they hired a bunch of people to finish it quickly and are now firing them
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 13:54:27 UTC No. 15875156
>>15874924
They could have come out and said hello
Instead they chose to be gay shut in NEETs so they get hot plutonium.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 13:58:02 UTC No. 15875161
>>15874965
They wouldn't do something with that much publicity that had any possibility of failure. They couldn't exactly declare a do-over if every Chinese person on Earth sees it live.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 13:59:03 UTC No. 15875163
>>15874974
A WMD just flew through my kitchen
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:07:31 UTC No. 15875172
what are the dreams that are being chased?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:08:52 UTC No. 15875173
>>15874978
>the submarine is a cylindrical shape with a radius of 0.15m
on an unrelated note, I didn't put "ethnically ambiguous" in the prompt, just "attractive"
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:09:59 UTC No. 15875174
A mishap occurred during the @SpaceX
Starship OFT-2 launch from Boca Chica, Texas, on Saturday, Nov. 18. The anomaly resulted in a loss of the vehicle. No injuries or public property damage have been reported.
The FAA will oversee the @SpaceX
-led mishap investigation to ensure SpaceX complies with its FAA-approved mishap investigation plan and other regulatory requirements.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:10:33 UTC No. 15875175
>>15875173
I read it as "ethnically ambitious" which is a very apt description of JPL.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:12:06 UTC No. 15875178
>>15875172
The dream of being HIV+
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:13:53 UTC No. 15875179
>>15875172
heady dreams of infinite government gibs, mixed with some shuttle nostalgia.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:19:06 UTC No. 15875191
crazy how they are still developing bugchaser. How do they even pitch it to investors now? Even memeliner has no market anymore and that's far more practical than sticking a spaceplane inside a faring for no reason. Bugchaser was an impractical but plausible design when COTS was going on, but we are over a decade past that.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:21:51 UTC No. 15875193
>>15875191
>inside a faring
no fairing
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:24:26 UTC No. 15875199
>>15874978
>the submarine is a cylindrical shape with a radius of 0.15m
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:24:33 UTC No. 15875200
elon musk is thanos
and i am iron man to kill him
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:25:44 UTC No. 15875202
>>15875190
he's right, it failed
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:29:58 UTC No. 15875212
>>15875193
it will be in a faring, unless theyve changed something. If it ends up not being in a faring then thats 500 mil wasted on R&D for the folding wings.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:33:48 UTC No. 15875218
https://youtu.be/XVRFIV8_73s
4K HDR someone nab it
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:50:07 UTC No. 15875240
>>15875238
ufo?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:50:24 UTC No. 15875241
>>15875191
Their pitch is that spaceplanes reenter and land at low gees. Personally I think that's a pretty useless perk.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:55:29 UTC No. 15875247
Elon is selling a $300 metal model of Starship, but I 3d proonted my own miniature one with booster for free, now they fitbin my pocket. I set a small pin into the top of super heavy and drilled a hole in the bottom of Starship so the two can stand as a full stack or apart on my shelf. No point in owning a toy of something if you can't woosh it around your desk space.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:56:05 UTC No. 15875248
>>15875238
>>15875240
NASA's WB-57
ULA bribed them and put a sniper on it, that's why the second stage failed
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:56:20 UTC No. 15875249
>>15875218
too big, man
I don't even think a ffmpeg wizard would be able to maintain the quality and get it under 4MB
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 14:58:34 UTC No. 15875252
>>15875190
news in the year 2050 AC (after colonization): "Elon Musk FAILS again: Mars colony misses DECADES-long goal of a million people by a whopping 200,000 settlers!"
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:01:57 UTC No. 15875258
>>15875032
>Sierra Space has discussed developing a version of Dream Chaser for unspecified military applications.
wait what
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:05:19 UTC No. 15875261
>>15875241
so will starship. it will basically enter like the shuttle doing big s curves
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:07:34 UTC No. 15875266
>>15875248
trvthnvke
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:12:00 UTC No. 15875271
>>15875248
i still think aliens cant be ruled out. the shots came from above
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:13:05 UTC No. 15875274
>>15875190
this will all be trivial once they actually figure out how to make the raptor work.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:15:17 UTC No. 15875280
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the administrator that deleted the faux thread. I feel like that admin may be a /sfg/ user in fact. He's helped us so many times, including that one time we had to raise the image limit.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:16:50 UTC No. 15875283
>>15875190
he's right you know
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:16:54 UTC No. 15875284
>>15875280
And showing the boardfag the door after he started advertising on other boards.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:22:42 UTC No. 15875293
>>15875202
>>15875274
>>15875283
he's making a comment on the news reporting and normie opinion.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:24:24 UTC No. 15875296
>>15875293
casey handjob is a dope
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:28:05 UTC No. 15875305
>>15875296
you are turbo autistic and don't get obvious satire
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:29:03 UTC No. 15875306
>>15875305
he thinks he's clever but in reality he's a know nothing do nothing
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:30:11 UTC No. 15875308
>>15875134
Wasn't the "best part is no part" staging mechanism for IFT 1 to turn the booster and fling the stage away? Can't do that when the booster is tumbling out of control.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:35:15 UTC No. 15875318
>>15875306
so what, that is irrelevant to the post itself
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:36:16 UTC No. 15875323
>>15875308
yes, but I don't remember SpaceX saying anything official about that though, might have missed it
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:43:05 UTC No. 15875338
>>15875271
I still think you have to go back to /x/
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:44:12 UTC No. 15875339
was trying to find the IFT-1 mishap report list and somehow got distracted and wound up on SpaceX Starship wikipedia talk page
they are arguing about the launch being a success or partial failure again lmao
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:45:13 UTC No. 15875341
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:45:56 UTC No. 15875342
>>15875338
>dont believe your lying eyes
why would you post it
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:47:21 UTC No. 15875344
>>15875343
IFT-2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:48:05 UTC No. 15875346
>>15875343
>MECO not attempted
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:49:14 UTC No. 15875350
>>15875346
Nevermind this was the first flight. I thought they had autism fit over MECO didn't happen because three stayed lit.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:54:54 UTC No. 15875363
>>15875360
Future actions
>Raptor Leak Mitigation - C13
> Improved igniter seal design
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:57:19 UTC No. 15875367
>>15875363
Future actions
--
Booster reliability improvement
>C34 - Change certain booster valve timing
----
Raptor reliability improvement
>C39 - Improve oxygen valve design
>C40 - Improve oxygen valve seal design
>C41 - Improve design of hot manifold
---
Avionics reliability improvement
>C49 - Redesign network architecture
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 15:58:12 UTC No. 15875369
>>15875343
Nobody cares
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:11:27 UTC No. 15875381
Rocket engine startup Ursa Major to venture into solid propulsion, Emirati university signs up to China’s moon base project
--
https://spacenews.com/rocket-engine
> WASHINGTON — Rocket engine startup Ursa Major is targeting the solid rocket motors market, the company announced Nov. 20.
> CEO Joe Laurienti said the company sees an opportunity to use additive manufacturing, often referred to as 3D printing, to disrupt an industry constrained by outdated processes.
> Northrop Grumman and L3Harris’ Aerojet Rocketdyne are the nation’s primary suppliers of solid rocket motors.
> The conflict in Ukraine has exposed cracks in the U.S. industrial base, which has struggled to meet surging demand for critical munitions like the Javelin and Stinger missile systems that depend on solid rocket motors. Experts say replacing depleted stocks can take years under current production rates.
---
https://spacenews.com/emirati-unive
> HELSINKI — China has added a United Arab Emirates’ university to its list of partners for the country’s moon base ambitions.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:12:36 UTC No. 15875382
ESA Launch Call to Develop Life Support Systems for Space
--
https://europeanspaceflight.com/esa
> The European Space Agency has launched a call for ideas to develop self-sufficient life support systems that address the challenges of extended space missions in low Earth orbit and beyond.
> The aim of the call is to identify ideas, technologies, and methods that address three specific challenges: optimizing biomass composition for crew diets, developing efficient waste-to-product routes, and mitigating virus risks in life support processes.
> In addition to the base objectives, ESA has also asked applicants to study how the solutions proposed could be used for terrestrial applications here on Earth. Optimized diets, effective waste management, and virus mitigation are, after all, just as important for sustaining life here on Earth as they are in deep space.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:12:38 UTC No. 15875383
On the page itself they have the mission timeline. Clearly not all points were met, yet they cannot determine if the mission was a success. Even tho they listed the criteria for the mission success.
Amazin
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:16:22 UTC No. 15875389
>>15875087
>blimps
>OP
my needle disagrees
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:21:10 UTC No. 15875394
>>15875271
>the shots
source?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:22:55 UTC No. 15875399
>>15875397
That crew is going to die, isn't it?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:23:40 UTC No. 15875400
>>15875397
if Starliner beats Starship its officially over for SpaceX. They will be cut out the artemis project entirerly because Starliner can do everything Starship can do but better. And crucually it will be ready several years ahead of Starship due to SpaceXes insanely slow pace. CSS was right. Blue will leapfrog SpaceX soon.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:24:06 UTC No. 15875401
>>15875397
RIP
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:24:12 UTC No. 15875402
>>15875397
do you think selling "Wilmore & Williams" memorabilia would be profitable?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:25:36 UTC No. 15875404
>>15875397
Just cancel it Boeing, you know you want to
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:26:14 UTC No. 15875405
>>15875397
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/sta
> NASA's Phil McAlister says Boeing's crew flight test of Starliner is on track for NET April 14, 2024, pending a successful parachute test in January.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:26:36 UTC No. 15875406
>>15875347
Wikipedians combine the worst aspects of mainstream journalists with the worst aspects of jannies. There is no lower form of life.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:27:29 UTC No. 15875408
>>15875404
nah, they're still salivating over the potential for $90m per seat, even if the project as a whole is a net loss.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:28:53 UTC No. 15875410
>>15875408
in that case I hope it's a massive failure and continues to cost them indefinitely
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:32:52 UTC No. 15875413
>>15875412
stare at his head. I'm sure he'll understand the implication.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:34:56 UTC No. 15875417
>>15875412
Knock his fuckin teeth out
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:35:29 UTC No. 15875419
>>15875412
look directly at his head like >>15875413 but also hold my hand in front of the upper part of his head and squint as if to signal that the glare from his bald head is blinding.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:35:47 UTC No. 15875420
>>15875023
>16 Future Astronaut She/they PISS OFF IF YOU'RE A PEDO, ZOO, PROSHIPPER OR NSFW I draw I swear Multifandom Enby lesbian Mixed pagan pfp by
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:36:25 UTC No. 15875421
the sound is amazing.
https://voca.ro/1fIuyviM9evN
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:36:30 UTC No. 15875422
>>15875413
>>15875419
the bald shall inherit the earth, haircels. chicks hate hairy guys too, just look at jason statham
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:40:57 UTC No. 15875424
>>15875422
cope from the hairless with inferior genes. my dad is 60 and he still has a luxurious flowing mane like i do. the bald may inherit the earth like goblins, but the haired will advance it.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:42:59 UTC No. 15875425
>>15875420
I'd fuk her. hope it's a her. seems the perfect amount of unstable BPD artist dreamgirl
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:44:12 UTC No. 15875427
>>15875421
the undertone of deep rumbling really does it for me.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:45:10 UTC No. 15875428
>>15875425
>she/they
Usually if they have to specify its not
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:45:33 UTC No. 15875429
>>15875400
>They will be cut out the artemis project entirerly because Starliner can do everything Starship can do but better.
Can it land?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:45:51 UTC No. 15875430
>>15875428
i know plenty ultralib tumblrinas that advertise pronouns
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:46:52 UTC No. 15875432
>>15875429
I actually can land. But it also produces a plume of UDMH when it does.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:47:22 UTC No. 15875433
>>15875429
it has to learn to tell time first.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:48:24 UTC No. 15875434
>>15875432
>produces a plume of UDMH when it does.
imagine the smell
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:57:03 UTC No. 15875448
L2 seems incredibly gay
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 16:59:30 UTC No. 15875452
>>15875448
tranny infested
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 17:03:37 UTC No. 15875457
>Gatens: air leak rate has increased. 1 pound/day now, but manageable and "well below our spec leak rate" but "a little higher than our historical leak rate." It's in transfer tunnel where Progress docks. Keep hatch to that closed as much as possible.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 17:06:02 UTC No. 15875461
>Gatens: we did ask in an RFI a few years ago about turning ISS over to a company, but not a lot of interest. It's large and complex, U.S. doesn't own all of it, etc.
That's why the decision is to deorbit it, but working w/Smithsonian to see what we can bring back for museum.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 17:27:15 UTC No. 15875486
>>15875280
I do enjoy the apparent mutual respect between sfg and the sci mods
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 17:42:04 UTC No. 15875499
>>15875496
99% bullshit, but I'll wait for the results nonetheless
should be coming in a number of weeks
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 17:42:08 UTC No. 15875500
>>15875496
we think its hilarious how niggers eat the same food as monkeys sometimes, such as bananas
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 17:42:59 UTC No. 15875501
>>15875496
M-drive didn't work, neither will this
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 17:43:09 UTC No. 15875502
>>15875496
Q drive > QI drive
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 17:51:07 UTC No. 15875515
>"The thing I think about, and which probably goes unnoticed by most, is how extremely hot and humid it is in Boca during the late summer and fall," he said. "The team that just rebuilt the orbital launch mount, water deluge, and remaining launch pad just did so in the hottest, most miserable part of the year. I remember having mild heat stress almost every day in August and September while working on the pad. I give kudos to those technicians, welders, and engineers that spent the last seven months out in the field making this happen."
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 17:54:53 UTC No. 15875518
>>15875501
But it would be really cool if it did. Imagine the seething from dark matter priests.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 17:55:29 UTC No. 15875520
>>15875496
I hope it works.
>>15875500
What's wrong with bananas? They are tasty and have lots of potassium. They are very popular world wide, even in nations without niggers. Hell, entire regimes were overthrown in the past over bananas.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 17:56:22 UTC No. 15875523
>>15874959
I love the design of the interior. It's like the world's comfiest mall
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 17:57:13 UTC No. 15875524
>>15875500
Retard.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:00:21 UTC No. 15875529
Just bought Rendevouz with Rama. What am I in for /sfg/ bros?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:00:42 UTC No. 15875531
>>15875529
wacky shit
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:02:03 UTC No. 15875538
>>15875529
Goofy shit
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:02:23 UTC No. 15875540
>>15875529
Dumb shit
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:02:50 UTC No. 15875541
>>15875173
>>15875199
NOOOOOOO!!!! YOU CAN'T JUST SEND ROBOTS TO EXPLORE OTHER WORLDS! YOU NEED TO SEND PEOPLE! AAAAGHHH!!! I NEED MY WEIRD SCAT FETISH OF ASTRONAUTS POOPING ON OTHER PLANETS FULFILLED!
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:03:47 UTC No. 15875542
>>15875529
Interesting shit. Avoid the sequels to keep it that way.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:06:04 UTC No. 15875548
>>15875173
>I didn't put "ethnically ambiguous" in the prompt, just "attractive"
Dalle modifies your prompt under the hood for more "representation". Sometimes this hidden part of the prompt gets included in the final image
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:07:27 UTC No. 15875553
>>15875515
Sorry doubters, Starship actually had a remarkably successful flight
---
https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/
> Before I had even left the launch viewing area in South Padre Island on Saturday morning headlines started to fill my news feed. The Wall Street Journal led with, “SpaceX second Starship test flight ends in another explosion.” Bloomberg was still more dour, “SpaceX Starship and Super Heavy Booster Launch and Failure.” Perhaps, after consultation with their beat reporters, editors subsequently changed these online headlines. And the stories themselves better reflected the reality. Nevertheless, much of the media coverage of the launch delivered a harsh verdict: Another failure for Elon Musk and SpaceX.
> Leading with words like "failure" and "explosion" are kind of like putting the headline “Derek Jeter had a strikeout” on a news story about the 2001 World Series game in which he later hit a walk-off home run. Like, it’s accurate. But it’s a lazy take that completely misses the point.
> Perhaps most critically for SpaceX, on this flight, the Super Heavy booster appears to have performed a nominal flight. After Starship pulled away, the first stage had done its heavy-lifting job. If this were a normal expendable launch, the rocket would have fallen into the ocean.
> In any case, Super Heavy blew up spectacularly. So was this a failure? Hardly. SpaceX had just launched the largest rocket the world had ever seen, a flying skyscraper largely built with private funding. If it were almost any other rocket in the world, it would have been judged entirely as a success because first stages are disposed of. But because SpaceX took the next step, to experiment with recovery, the loss of the first stage after completing its primary mission was somehow viewed as a failure by some observers. I'm sorry to say it, but that's just dumb.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:07:44 UTC No. 15875554
how the uck does spacex expect the raptors to be reusable when they have such extreme regimes inside the engines?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:08:18 UTC No. 15875556
>>15874978
how do you fit a nuclear reactor into a 15cm cylinder?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:09:13 UTC No. 15875557
>>15875529
If I had to guess Clarke wrote this because he was jealous of Niven's Ringworld
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:09:36 UTC No. 15875558
>>15875554
desu im really worried about their relight after 7 days on the moon
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:10:16 UTC No. 15875561
>>15875553
> In some respects, on just its second flight, Starship now is as successful as NASA’s SLS rocket. Consider that the Artemis I test flight in November 2022 used a core stage, side-mounted boosters, and an upper stage known as the Interim Cryogenic Propulsion Stage, or ICPS. This core stage performed well, flying a nominal mission as it boosted the Orion spacecraft into orbit.
>Although the core stage was new hardware, the upper stage ICPS was a (very, very lightly) modified version of a Delta rocket upper stage that has been flying for a quarter of a century. Put another way, the core stage of the SLS rocket, and the Super Heavy booster have now both completed one successful launch. If SpaceX had stuck an ICPS and the Orion spacecraft hardware on top of Super Heavy, it could have gone to the Moon on Saturday.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:10:18 UTC No. 15875562
>>15875556
Very carefully
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:12:47 UTC No. 15875567
Everyday Astronaut
@Erdayastronaut
·
4m
Our Starship IFT2 4K Slow Mo Megacut has been exported! Working on the upload process. Will post shortly!!! GET READY FOR SOME INCREDIBLE FOOTAGE!!!
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:13:48 UTC No. 15875569
>>15875561
>Since its heady days during the Apollo program, NASA has steadily become an agency filled with checkers, rather than doers. That's part of the bureaucratization process, and today it's not a bad place for the agency to be as it manages a slew of traditional and new space contractors. However, it's a terrible place for a space company to be. Part of the magic of SpaceX is that it's filled with doers, with relatively few checkers, even after more than 20 years of existence.
> That culture was created by Musk and is maintained by Musk. He is a hard-charging leader who pushes back on bureaucracy. He wants to move fast and break things. And he does break things. Those very public failures and his recent comments and actions have certainly hurt his reputation, and to some extent, that of SpaceX.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:37:12 UTC No. 15875598
>>15875588
sex000
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:40:03 UTC No. 15875601
>>15875529
Nothing Happens: The Book
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:42:22 UTC No. 15875605
ITS' OUT!!!!
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:42:47 UTC No. 15875606
>>15875553
>Some of his politics and public statements are deeply unsettling to many.
Who? Who are these many people? Who might they be?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:43:23 UTC No. 15875607
>>15875605
OOPS, forgot link
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 18:47:22 UTC No. 15875612
>>15875606
The entire left wing, for whom it is considered impossible to be racist against white people. (The problematic statements in question amount to a virtual thumbs-up on a discussion of this topic.)
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:00:38 UTC No. 15875628
>>15875626
>11:52
Sexo
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:01:37 UTC No. 15875629
>>15875190
Contractually they only need to reach the Moon, this list is retarded. It's more like:
>Orbit
>Payload deploy
>Re-entry
>Superheavy landing and reuse
>Starship landing and reuse
>Propellant transfer
>Life support systems
>Lunar orbit, landing and return
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:01:52 UTC No. 15875630
>>15875626
something almost hit the pad camera
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:05:26 UTC No. 15875632
>>15875629
That's what I thought was the real genius of the contract. They didn't fall for the typical government contract pitfall of being overly specific about how a goal was accomplished; they simply laid out their landing site criteria, the safety requirements and the price and then got the hell out of the way. And SpaceX came back with this hundred ton monster that will do what they want and more.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:05:45 UTC No. 15875633
in other news NSF is absolutely seething that a 14 year old reposted one of their photos on twitter without any credit. Whatever you do, don't post any of their images here, it might hurt their feelings.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:16:38 UTC No. 15875645
>>15874888
those are tire tracks
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:18:11 UTC No. 15875649
>>15875643
kek, someone was probably OCD triggered by that guy's step function graph of manually entered discrete datapoints. I prefer the original, this infers data where there is none
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:20:48 UTC No. 15875655
>>15875641
I’m confused as to what he decided to include or not. I though chandrayaan 2 and beresheet crashed. Why include them but not chandrayaan 3 and luna 25? And artemis hasn’t even happened yet.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:24:02 UTC No. 15875660
>>15875649
this also uses some smoothing function, not sure which one
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:32:10 UTC No. 15875674
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv5
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:34:32 UTC No. 15875676
We missed another milestone in this launch when people were trying to pass/fail it:
>First successful ignition and flight of RVAC
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:37:57 UTC No. 15875686
>>15875676
not first ignition, first ignition in flight though yeah
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:38:17 UTC No. 15875688
I couldn't read that berger article, nothing of substance.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:42:40 UTC No. 15875694
>>15875689
Rubber obturators on the quick disconnect ports to stop leaks
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:45:20 UTC No. 15875696
>>15875689
The more fragile parts of the system will probably get reengineered and replaced, but the deluge plate part seems to work.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:52:05 UTC No. 15875701
>>15875688
It was mainly there for the haters anyway. Although "super heavy is just as successful as SLS's core stage" as a statement that needs to be qualified is a cope and "strap an ICPS to this and Orion/ESM and it would get to the moon" needs fact checking
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:52:13 UTC No. 15875702
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:55:24 UTC No. 15875707
>>15875704
That was actually not intentional and perhaps caused the fuck up of the booster
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:57:17 UTC No. 15875708
>>15875707
But SpaceX did say they intentionally keep the starship pointed at Superheavy to push it before angling to flight trajectory
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:59:00 UTC No. 15875710
Will they have explosives that detonate if something goes wrong, with a crew onboard?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:59:33 UTC No. 15875712
>>15875710
newfag
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:59:42 UTC No. 15875713
>>15875709
I am too dumb to interpret this.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 19:59:59 UTC No. 15875714
>>15875713
line go up then down
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:00:22 UTC No. 15875715
>>15875689
I don't know enough about rocker science or engineering in general to even guess what needs changing.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:00:48 UTC No. 15875716
>>15875712
i know thats why im asking
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:00:57 UTC No. 15875717
>>15875713
https://twitter.com/peterrhague/sta
propellant going up then slamming down, fucking everything up
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:00:58 UTC No. 15875718
>>15875496
what ended up happening with the lk99 meme anyways?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:01:27 UTC No. 15875719
>>15875710
Yes. I'd reckon the thresholds are different. Obviously if it starts careening towards Port Isabel you want to terminate the flight even if there are souls on board.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:02:12 UTC No. 15875720
>>15875718
it was a mistake/scam
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:03:41 UTC No. 15875721
>>15875709
https://twitter.com/RasmsnC/status/
> NASA had a big headache with slosh in the S-IB. They have awesome in tank films if the slamming fuel . Baffles, but I’m sure they already have baffles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL-
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:06:26 UTC No. 15875725
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u65
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:08:04 UTC No. 15875729
>>15875717
I blocked this retard on Twitter, too much current thing opinions just like Elon. Elon is special though he just gets a mute and I usually read anything important from him on here.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:08:11 UTC No. 15875730
Thoughts on nanoengineered nearly friction free material that is the surface of a rocket?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:08:16 UTC No. 15875731
>>15875727
I read like 50 pages never finished it.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:09:09 UTC No. 15875733
>>15875730
Too expensive and heavy/weak to heat
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:09:47 UTC No. 15875736
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:10:49 UTC No. 15875739
>>15875718
Debunked, but by actual scientists and the peer review process rather than a random person on YouTube.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:11:23 UTC No. 15875740
>>15875729
being able to read only certain topics from people would be pretty nice even though I'm not as annoyed as you
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:16:39 UTC No. 15875743
>>15875571
its not working, just black screen. need a supercomputer to run it?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:17:18 UTC No. 15875746
>>15875727
I got it, was dissapointed. It starts off promising, but the lurid sex scene descriptions put me off. I was reading next to my brother, and I was wondering why he was looking at me weird until I got to the other page.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:23:15 UTC No. 15875752
>>15875630
ablated molten metal?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:24:30 UTC No. 15875754
>>15875626
Kino overload
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:25:38 UTC No. 15875755
so now that the question of boil off has started, what does that mean for an uncrewed backup ship that's supposed to sit on mars or the moon for an extended period of time? this boil off kinda fucks everything up right? Im sure they foresaw this from the very beginning, what are they trying to pull? The starship will boil off all it's fuel before it gets to mars.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:25:40 UTC No. 15875756
>>15875752
maybe but looks more like a rod or something to me
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:39:19 UTC No. 15875768
>>15875727
It's certainly something, I remember reading it in highschool. Funny seeing the backrooms materialize online all these years later, it clear those who pioneered the mythos/feel took inspiration from the book
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:40:39 UTC No. 15875770
it's over, starship will never work. gave up hope
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:40:53 UTC No. 15875772
>>15875626
Those tiles dropping
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:45:14 UTC No. 15875776
>>15875740
>echo chamber good!
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:47:58 UTC No. 15875780
>>15875776
no, if someone talks about knitting and rocket launches and I don't personally give a fuck about knitting, but their comments about rocket launches are interesting, it would be nice for me to just see the stuff about rocket launches
you could call that an echo chamber I guess, but this isn't about politics
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:51:02 UTC No. 15875787
There's no on board cams because they forgor
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:54:57 UTC No. 15875794
so fellas im working on knitting a IFT2 sweater, im using the english method, any tips for me? Im relatively new to this. I have made pouches and scarfs but i think i bit off a little more than i can chew with this one.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 20:57:00 UTC No. 15875799
>>15875729
>>15875740
>>15875776
>>15875780
I'm gonna take this moment to shill RSS,
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:01:14 UTC No. 15875809
>>15875794
What does the design look like?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:02:16 UTC No. 15875811
>>15875807
Very dumb question. How do you think any of us would know this??
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:03:49 UTC No. 15875813
>>15875601
That describes every "golden age" sci-fi novel though
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:03:53 UTC No. 15875814
Reminder that the only MAJOR issues left for Starship are tile attachment, hot staging got far enough to prove it worked and just needs some adjustments, and Raptor reliabilitytards got BTFO. Tile attachment may need a full rework like staging got, but its not like its impossible.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:05:03 UTC No. 15875815
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:13:12 UTC No. 15875832
>>15875807
Pentium III
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:15:47 UTC No. 15875836
>>15875813
a bit too cerebral for you eh?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:26:11 UTC No. 15875849
>>15875718
Fuck off Noa
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:31:17 UTC No. 15875859
>>15875814
>tile attachment
Complete non-issue, we know how to attach things to other things.
They might not get exactly what they want in the end (i.e. tiles that are super easy to replace, never come off in flight and with minimal additional weight), but if they really want no tile dropping they will be able to do it.
I think they aren't focusing on this aspect right now because they have to reach orbit in the first place.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:32:36 UTC No. 15875861
>>15874978
based wall of text
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:33:29 UTC No. 15875862
>>15875859
cope you fucking pig. How much is Elon paying you guys, lol?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:40:34 UTC No. 15875870
>>15875862
I do it for free
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:45:28 UTC No. 15875884
>>15875075
>What's really cool about this is that you can see the SL raptors on S25 were gimballed away on startup and then move back after separation to provide max thrust
It blows my mind how nimble those things are while being so massive and providing all that thrust. There's no sense of size while its way up in the air. These are straight up robots that happen to have control of Raptor engines.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:47:50 UTC No. 15875889
>>15875397
>Anomolies
Nothing could possiblie go wrong!
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:50:10 UTC No. 15875892
>>15875889
Shut up stupid Muskrat
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:57:23 UTC No. 15875909
elon should do a reddit AMA
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:03:07 UTC No. 15875923
>>15875067
wi tu low
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:03:34 UTC No. 15875924
SLS should launch during the day next time
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:04:33 UTC No. 15875928
>>15875909
Chances of Elon doing non controlled QA? Not very high.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:04:48 UTC No. 15875929
>15875924
fuck you. baiting for replies
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:05:54 UTC No. 15875931
>>15875067
I haven't seen Yi Lon Ma yet, I think he may have been purged.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:06:31 UTC No. 15875932
>>15875909
>implying he's not shitposting anonymously on /sfg/ on a regular basis
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:06:43 UTC No. 15875933
>>15875929
Take a (You) as encouragement for restricting his.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:10:00 UTC No. 15875937
>>15875932
I would if I were him
Haha
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:10:53 UTC No. 15875940
>>15875929
how is that bait
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:11:52 UTC No. 15875942
>>15875937
Nobody believes or says this
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:13:35 UTC No. 15875945
>>15875630
Charred endangered turtle, its over.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:15:21 UTC No. 15875949
>>15875807
Falcon 9 uses 3 dual core Intel CPUs. I imagine Starship uses whatever was deemed a safe option back in 2017 or so.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:15:29 UTC No. 15875950
>>15875940
Shut up loser
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:16:02 UTC No. 15875952
>>15875717
At -0.8g acceleration on the vehicle, gravity would still be applying a relative net 0.2g downwards on the propellant. Lack of head pressure could be a problem but these claims that propellant would be floating aren't consistent with reality. You don't start floating in an elevator at that accelerates at -0.1g
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:16:42 UTC No. 15875955
>>15875718
mistake bordering on scientific misconduct
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:18:15 UTC No. 15875959
Tape outgas drive for picosats
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:18:42 UTC No. 15875961
>>15874829
It's almost 2024...
>Still no Space X on Mars
>No working Starship
>No Starship that doesn't explode
>Largest Space X success to date is not exploding the launch pad to bits, again
>Billions of millions of $ down the sewer
>Space X IPO next year
You stupid fagots are what's wrong with humanity. Enjoy dumping your life's savings into this Ponzi while Musk cashes out....again.
t. Space Elevator Troll
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:18:52 UTC No. 15875962
will any of the innumerable satellite constellations proposed actually happen? I keep seeing things like "new satellite constellation being worked on", sometimes with a truly pathetic number of sats. What can you possibly do with that?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:21:43 UTC No. 15875971
>>15875961
That's a weird ai pic
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:22:07 UTC No. 15875973
>>15875949
>>15875807
surely starship needs radiation hardened electronics... That is unless Musk has no intention of going to Mars...
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:22:34 UTC No. 15875975
>>15875961
its over
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:23:00 UTC No. 15875976
>>15875971
the key to tricking dalle into generating lewds is to fill the prompt with stupid shit to confuse the morality filter
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:23:02 UTC No. 15875978
>>15875973
The mars helicopter just uses an off the shelf CPU.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:23:35 UTC No. 15875979
>>15875962
depends on what the satellite constellation is for, what the orbit is and so on
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:24:28 UTC No. 15875980
>>15875978
NASA isn't planning on flying humans on it.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:24:35 UTC No. 15875981
>>15875973
another old space scam
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:25:09 UTC No. 15875986
>>15875980
You're right. NASA would be sure to downgrade first.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:26:35 UTC No. 15875989
>>15875641
ah the ole "shittle hole"
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:27:01 UTC No. 15875990
>>15875971
>>15875976
clearly offtopic and you need to kill yourself
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:27:45 UTC No. 15875992
>>15874980
Seeing those six beautiful engines lit up and glowing at the back end of a proper fully-integrated spacecraft designed to carry large payloads to other worlds reminds me of your classic sci-fi "spaceship" so much more than a more traditional rocket upper stage. Makes me think we really have entered a new era of spaceflight.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:31:50 UTC No. 15876001
>>15875978
Tom Mueller said hes had to do a lot of work on rad hardening electronics for his space tug, and he seems to know what hes talking about since he developed Merlin
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:34:24 UTC No. 15876007
>>15875992
the ass of starship is so aestetic due to the pattern of small and large raptors, and the way the inside of the bells glow. Im so glad we will get so much stage sep kino due to how low starship stages.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:34:52 UTC No. 15876009
>>15875992
>designed to carry large payloads
>fucking thing's dead empty and it can't even get to orbit
You need to tone down the gay until your mom's dildo chalks up some serious results.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:36:25 UTC No. 15876014
>>15875992
tell us the weight of the payload first?
Shitship was carrying NOTHING and failed to even work.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:39:49 UTC No. 15876020
some of the posters here are like pigs and im a big dildo going up their ass.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:40:11 UTC No. 15876023
>>15876020
Fuck off
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:54:47 UTC No. 15876052
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:55:47 UTC No. 15876056
>>15875554
how do you get to carnegie hall?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 23:03:16 UTC No. 15876062
>>15876014
Your entire mother
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 23:04:15 UTC No. 15876063
>>15875644
neat
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 23:06:12 UTC No. 15876065
>>15875644
kill yourself
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 23:17:12 UTC No. 15876080
>>15875645
those are ski tracks
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 23:18:58 UTC No. 15876083
>>15875548
Yeah, I assumed that's what was going on
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 23:20:04 UTC No. 15876085
>>15875556
sideways
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 23:35:14 UTC No. 15876098
>>15875961
it's almost 2024...
> no one has managed to land a booster besides SpaceX (outside of one test flight in China)
> no one else has come close to launch prices from falcon 9/heavy
> no one else has even STARTED on a starship sized rocket
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 23:36:34 UTC No. 15876102
>>15875980
You can just use voting computers in leu of radiation hardening.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 23:39:28 UTC No. 15876105
>>15875962
Starlink exists, and if anything the constellation will be bigger than anticipated because the launch prices will be very low, there seems to be plenty of demand for the service and there's no real limit to how much bandwidth they need in urban areas
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 23:42:58 UTC No. 15876112
>>15876098
ha, but while spacex wastes time on starshit, everyone else (the Adults in the room) are busy advancing slideshow technology.
Talk to me when you have a nuclear tug on your pptx, sweetie
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 23:43:47 UTC No. 15876114
>>15876102
I think that only works to deal with transient errors, not cumulative damage to the material.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 23:46:00 UTC No. 15876117
>>15875190
And next up for Blue Origin?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 23:49:02 UTC No. 15876121
>>15876098
Cope more muskrat. Vulcan is one month away from launching and Starship (lmao what a gay name) probably won't even get another attempt this year. SpaceX simply can't compete; the next decade will be dominated by ULA while nuspace companies struggle to avoid bankruptcy.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 23:50:30 UTC No. 15876123
>>15876121
mine was more funny.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 23:51:54 UTC No. 15876126
>>15876098
here's what your missing. Noone has BOTHERED to LAND an orbital BOOSTER because its NOT PROFITABLE. SpaceX burns through money and survives on dreams of uneducated Space Cadets.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 23:53:25 UTC No. 15876127
>>15876123
i was advancing the discourse by mentioning vulcan's NET
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 23:54:10 UTC No. 15876129
watch this starshit nerds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om9
you are space cadets.
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 23:54:38 UTC No. 15876130
IFT2 was two days ago. Why are these people still here?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Nov 2023 23:58:01 UTC No. 15876132
>>15876130
I'm having fun, anon.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 00:11:08 UTC No. 15876145
>>15876129
I wonder how many wrong predictions he is going to make here
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 00:14:00 UTC No. 15876148
>>15876129
I might go through this just to see his cope. (won't be watching it on youtube, thoughever)
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 00:14:16 UTC No. 15876150
>>15876098
To be completely fair, a different Chinese group also managed a grasshopper landing back in 2022. They're definitely making progress as a whole, it's just that they only look like they're moving fast when you compare them to anyone who isn't SpaceX.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 00:14:59 UTC No. 15876152
>>15876132
fuck off tourist
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 00:21:56 UTC No. 15876158
>>15876150
that was for a vehicle with like 1 ton to orbit, but they are developing a 10+ ton vehicle right now and there are other chinese companies
but then in the west there are relativity, rocket lab, stoke, maybe something in europe but those are very early
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 00:28:49 UTC No. 15876166
>>15876098
Stoke Space is at least aiming for second stage reuse with physical hardware.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 00:49:26 UTC No. 15876194
>>15876098
>outside of one test flight in China
That was an equivalent of Grasshopper, not a operational booster.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 01:06:37 UTC No. 15876207
>>15876194
youre idiotic if you really think that. i wont even explain why. think for yourself.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 01:07:09 UTC No. 15876210
>wake up
>berger hit piece about the media in general
when is he dropping a hit piece about ars?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 01:08:44 UTC No. 15876212
>>15876098
i met an astra+rocketlab investor the day of ift2. he was dismayed by astra but convinced RL would pick up the medium lift market from spacex. I revealed my power level when he said ift2 went "really bad". set him straight lol
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 01:09:26 UTC No. 15876213
>>15876210
musk should buy ars and fire everyone else except berger
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 01:09:59 UTC No. 15876215
>>15876145
>>15876148
what did he say? i really dont feel like watching
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 01:11:59 UTC No. 15876220
>>15876215
turns out it's about IFT-1.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 01:12:49 UTC No. 15876221
>>15876212
i dont get how venture capitalists can be so out of touch and stupid yet still make money. it seems to be the same in every industry that the venture guys just flip a coin and invest randomly
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 01:13:06 UTC No. 15876222
>>15876215
haven't watched it yet
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 01:13:23 UTC No. 15876224
>>15876220
yes I know that, but curious what dumb shit he would predict
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 01:15:01 UTC No. 15876228
>>15876221
>i dont get how venture capitalists can be so out of touch and stupid yet still make money
They get in on the ground floor, retail buys in the IPO and VCs dump on them.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 01:17:44 UTC No. 15876230
>>15876221
The average VC strategy is to invest in everything they can and hope that the small number that succeed making up for all the ones that don't. It's a plan that requires minimal to negative levels of understanding. VC space scams work because of this.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 01:48:19 UTC No. 15876256
>>15876213
>>15876210
I just realized I don't read Ars for anything but space article lmao
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 01:54:55 UTC No. 15876267
>>15876207
The wumao is threatened.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 01:56:29 UTC No. 15876271
as far as I know spacex lands their boosters through a combination of ground tracking and gps. how will they do this on mars or the moon?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 01:57:54 UTC No. 15876273
dont they need a new permit or something before building a second tower at boca chica? i remember they scaled back during the environmental review
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 01:59:10 UTC No. 15876275
>>15876273
most likely, but I don't think they need to stop launches while the enviromental assessment is done so it doesn't matter as much
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 01:59:41 UTC No. 15876276
>>15876256
Good. Even their non-hardware-related space articles are trash. Right now a front page article on Farts Technica is "here's why Mars colonization is bad (it reminds me of white people colonizing foreign continents (did you know Andrew Jackson was le bad))" written as a review of a book by the SMBC webcomic guy and his wife.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:05:06 UTC No. 15876285
>>15876280
2024 if all goes well.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:06:36 UTC No. 15876291
>>15876280
SpaceX will test orbital refueling (aka a fuel station) probably as soon as they get a successful orbital test
not sure which would be prioritized, the orbital refueling or starlink launches though, orbital fuel transfer is critical for HLS
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:10:26 UTC No. 15876295
>>15876291
>doesn't use the D-word
smart kid
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:12:58 UTC No. 15876297
>>15876291
i guess they would prioritise starlink since its directly in their financial interest, whereas NASA is used to being fucked around and delayed so it wont be a huge deal if SpaceX doesnt go on 100% thrust for a few months. the FAA delays have had more impact than the time it would take to deploy a healthy starter number of starlink V3s.
A thing im worried about is the fact that SpaceX wont get a permit to increase their cadence to the needed rate at boca chica becuase of muh turtles so where do they launch from and how?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:16:14 UTC No. 15876304
>>15876280
Do people forget orbit fab launched a fuel depot prototype into space back in 2021?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:16:41 UTC No. 15876305
>>15876297
need to get that launch tower built at the cape
I think they did an enviromental assessment for that already and after the first successful orbital test with no damage to the tower or pad (still need to re-engineer some parts on the tower like QD arm) then I don't think it would take more than a few months to build the thing
they did it once, should be much quicker to do it again and this time they can just copy the launch infrastructure at boca chica
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:16:46 UTC No. 15876306
>bump limit
i will be making a new thread. be ready to switch
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:17:36 UTC No. 15876308
>>15876306
Get out
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:18:04 UTC No. 15876310
>>15876306
You stupid gorilla nigger we're only on page 5
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:18:54 UTC No. 15876313
>>15876306
this is not de way
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:21:55 UTC No. 15876316
>>15876306
Hold
Hold
Hold
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:22:35 UTC No. 15876317
>>15875992
>muh hollywood goyslop is totally real guise!!!!
all you're doing by posting that tripe is revealing to us that your iq is roughly 85 and that you're too dumb and out of touch with reality to have your own imagination so instead your brain gets implanted by whatever hollywood goyslop its exposed to
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:23:41 UTC No. 15876321
>>15876317
dilate
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:27:26 UTC No. 15876325
>>15876276
the comments
>"good i hope the colonists die"
>"elon bad"
>"lets leave this to nasa"
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:27:27 UTC No. 15876326
>>15876305
how will they get Starships from texas to florida without transport cost becoming a big deal?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:29:07 UTC No. 15876328
>>15876121
Now that it has a launchpad that can survive a launch without requiring extensive repairs, Starship has a turnaround time of just a few weeks between test launches. By the time its doing operational launches they'll be able to sustain multiple launches per week.
>>15876280
Storing fuel in orbit is dumb since it can just as easily be launched when needed
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:35:55 UTC No. 15876335
>>15876326
just do a quick hop
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:38:11 UTC No. 15876340
>>15876328
>Storing fuel in orbit is dumb since it can just as easily be launched when needed
one of the main problems with the spacex artemis architecture is that its dependent on so many flights going right with no delays due to the refuelling and concerns about boiloff. Is there was a depot with enough power and radiators to keep the tanks cold then starship artemis would only be dependant on one flight, the hls vehicle itself.
this raises a question. how the hell will starship go to Mars if bliloff is a real problem (which nasa seems to think so) for just a lunar visit?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:39:15 UTC No. 15876342
>>15876326
I thought they had a factory building there already as well?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:39:33 UTC No. 15876344
>>15876326
They'll set up a wormhole from boca chica to the cape. It'll look like they just built another factory, but we will know better.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:39:33 UTC No. 15876345
>>15876335
I liked the idea when elon brought it up, it's a typical elon idea, but how do you transport the boosters?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:40:39 UTC No. 15876346
>>15876340
>concerns about boiloff
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:41:31 UTC No. 15876348
>>15876335
during artemis 3 the hls main engines will fail to ignite and the astronauts will suffocate on the surface of the moon. then that will be the end of spacexes manned program because the federal government will ban them from carrying humans, even paying private passengers.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:41:49 UTC No. 15876349
>>15876328
>Storing fuel in orbit is dumb since it can just as easily be launched when needed
you will also end up with a tiny launch window and specific inclination to reach it, and let's not even get into the "which fuel?" question
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:43:42 UTC No. 15876351
>>15876345
they hop too
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:45:06 UTC No. 15876352
>>15876342
oh, well if they do that answers the question. I was not aware of a starship factory in florida.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:45:20 UTC No. 15876353
>>15876340
The Artemis architecture DOES include a depot.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:49:47 UTC No. 15876356
>>15876348
Why build one when you can build two for twice the price? That's when he'll roll out a version of Starship that doesn't need stupid Orion or Griftway to get to the moon.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:49:50 UTC No. 15876357
>>15876326
Drive them to a part and stick them on a barge. It’s a pain in the ass but a good enough stopgap while the cadence is still <5 per year per tower.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:50:52 UTC No. 15876359
>>15876276
they're pandering to their audience: leftist tech employees in their 20s and 30s.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:54:24 UTC No. 15876362
>>15876129
mentions ohania lavia or whatever (tranny) and references ESG hound multiple times
predictions in this video:
>you are going to have to dig a flame trench
>Starship was a lot louder it was supposed to be
>The Starship programme is not doing so well
>the iterative test programme is not the right choice for this programme due to launching outdated vehicles and you don't learn anything from that
>the only reason IFT-1 happened was for attention for funding because Starlink is a failure
>launching IFT-1 is actually hurting SpaceX because they have to rebuild the pad, there are enviromental lawsuits, the FAA is going to have to do an investigation
>I don't think this thing is going to launch until 2024
>Musk: Starship is going to be one of the first things for the Artmeis programme, pressure fed says this is weapons grade copium, damage control, this is an obvious failure (referencing IFT-1)
>"Starship is a very immature system. To put this into perspective, Artemis 3 hardware for the Orion and SLS are being built RIGHT NOW. OKAY. Starship is the long arm of this."
>Starship has to fly to orbit once, its gotta be reused and probably perfect it, they have to work on boiloff mitigation for propellant tankers and depot architecture, they gotta develop propellant transfer architecture, and they gotta develop HLS
>again saying that iterative design is not working for starship
>13 launches to refuel tanker according to his calculations, GAO said 14, Musk said 4-8 and he doesnt believe Musk
>can't use F9 as an argument because it was much more conservative, no people who worked on it necessarily work on the Starship programme
so what went right?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:57:38 UTC No. 15876367
>>15876362
also
https://twitter.com/PantslessMadman
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 02:57:48 UTC No. 15876368
>>15876256
everything else on Arse is trash
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:00:22 UTC No. 15876372
>>15876362
Just ignore that down syndrome ass motherfucker. He'll get btfo just like every other sneeding faggot.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:04:03 UTC No. 15876379
>>15876352
I guess no starfactory yet andnor megabays for stacking the rings and welding them
but is a megabay mandatory?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX5
https://www.nasa.gov/humans-in-spac
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:05:13 UTC No. 15876381
>>15876379
like they could probably put up some temporary tent pretty quickly like they did with boca chica
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:05:40 UTC No. 15876383
>>15876367
>Aerospace engineer and graduate student
>Will resurrect big dumb booster
>Huntsville, AL
It couldn't write itself any harder if it was written by ChatGPT
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:07:13 UTC No. 15876384
>>15876379
Florida has been such a shitshow. Why are they doing absolutely nothing?
They built a factory and a tower and then just stopped all work.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:10:55 UTC No. 15876387
>>15876384
Do they not have enough employees?
I understand focus is important or you end up like BO.
But if you wanna colonize Mars you need to be able to work on two sites at once.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:10:57 UTC No. 15876388
Which board do you think has the highest amount of EDS? For my experience it seems it's /g/
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:11:39 UTC No. 15876389
>>15876372
I was just thinking how much has he been proven wrong already
needing a flame trench was wrong, launching in 2024 was wrong, starship programme not doing well is arguably wrong but if I had to guess he would probably disagree with this, iterative test programme is not the right choice is wrong, starship wasn't louder than it was supposed to (esg schizo shit that turned out to be bullshit and based on misunderstanding or malice)
the two predictions he made that weren't btfo are that Starship would be the long arm of the Artemis programme and refueling needing a certain number of flights
neither of these can be evaluated yet (deadline hasn't been hit, no refueling flights have been done so the number is not known yet)
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:13:02 UTC No. 15876392
>>15876388
It's strong on /o/, the amount of Tesla sneeding there is unreal.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:13:13 UTC No. 15876393
>>15876387
they iterate until it works before building them in Florida so they don't have to redo them
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:15:07 UTC No. 15876395
>>15876392
/o/ then /pol/.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:19:13 UTC No. 15876398
>>15876317
I think you misunderstand me, friend, I have no expectation or desire that future spacecraft will look exactly like generic Star Wars-esque ships; I'm just glad that Starship is paving the way for craft that look cooler than boring capsules, atavistic spaceplanes or simple cylinders or boxes with an engine sticking out one end. I'm looking forward to seeing what post-Starship spacecraft will end up looking like over the next few decades.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:19:29 UTC No. 15876399
>>15876367
kek the people he follows, like you couldn't pick a more stereotypical list of EDS sufferers
I wonder if he has been posting his own videos here on purpose for engagement? so people go talk shit to him or whatever
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:20:13 UTC No. 15876400
>>15876317
Do you need your diaper changed?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:22:50 UTC No. 15876403
>>15876384
No point in building a second factory when you haven't come close to a final design yet. Similar story with the launch tower which now needs the concrete replaced with the bidet
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:25:05 UTC No. 15876406
>>15876395
/g/ is definitely worse than /pol/ even /b/ is worse than /pol/, but that's mostly because Musk does throw /pol/ a bone every now and then
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:25:33 UTC No. 15876407
The Berger article is kinda funny. I'm ready to read the comments now
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:29:57 UTC No. 15876411
>>15876399
of all the bios there thunderfoots is the most pretentious, and pathetic
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:31:20 UTC No. 15876412
>>15876411
Thunderf00t congratulated SpaceX and Musk on IFT-2 without a hint of sarcasm. He's based now
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:34:27 UTC No. 15876414
>>15876412
bullshit
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:35:58 UTC No. 15876415
>>15876399
thunderfoot's bio is straight out of 2012
made me throw up in my mouth a little desu
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:39:07 UTC No. 15876420
>>15876414
https://youtu.be/BLlctxJnxy8?t=3809
>Congratulations to, let's be honest, the SpaceX team and— and Musk!
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:40:46 UTC No. 15876425
>>15876423
Is...there a human being on that boom?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:43:40 UTC No. 15876428
>>15876425
No unless it's a small child
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:44:17 UTC No. 15876429
>>15876420
tops comments are even pro spacex wow
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:44:20 UTC No. 15876430
>>15876420
surprising but you seem to be correct
If I had to guess he will still make a debunking video for the shekels, have to keep the persona up
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:47:23 UTC No. 15876434
>>15876430
It did not surprise me, since he's streamed the spacex crew-1 launch on his alt channel. and while he said some dumb quotable shit during, you could sense a hint of enthusiasm. What did surprise me is he streamed IFT-2 on his main channel. he could not contain his excitement
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:48:33 UTC No. 15876435
>>15876420
he didn't even complain or sneer at the booster exploding, that's really surprising
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:49:06 UTC No. 15876438
>>15876435
secret fan secret fan secret fan
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:51:19 UTC No. 15876441
Even thunderfaggot is beginning to consneed. The future is looking good lads.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:57:52 UTC No. 15876444
I've been reading over some claimed specific thrust (N/W) levels for the IVO thruster and they're completely nutty if they scale linearly. Closer to Star Trek impulse engines than anything from Atomic Rockets. The only question is if the thruster still provides acceleration in relativistic regimes over 1% c. If they do this is STL interstellar in a can.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 04:00:01 UTC No. 15876446
>>15876444
>IVO thruster
kill yourself
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 04:00:58 UTC No. 15876449
>>15876412
>>15876411
>Scroll through thunderfoots twitter
>100% of the posts are about elon musk
No fan is this obsessed. How do these EDS sufferers not realize they're in a cult?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 04:01:29 UTC No. 15876450
>>15876446
It's literally in space right now. It'll either work or not.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 04:04:10 UTC No. 15876455
Blue Origin makes me sad. They can never really be a true SpaceX competitor. Maybe they will kill ULA, but that's such a low bar. They don't do hope tests, they don't do anything fun. Development is deathly slow, and they don't learn by doing.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 04:19:24 UTC No. 15876465
now it's vulcan's turn to go to the moon. sls and vulcan beat starship to the moon
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 04:21:02 UTC No. 15876466
>>15876455
It's a shame bezos is too busy on his megayacht sniffing his Latino bitch rather than making BO the Amazon of space.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 04:23:07 UTC No. 15876468
>>15876466
i read somewhere he moved to miami to be closer to his yacht
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 04:38:32 UTC No. 15876479
>>15876455
Is peculiar. They’ve designed New Glenn for first stage reuse from the get-go, but do they actually intend to attempt a propulsive landing right away?
Has there been any word about a New Glenn grasshopper vehicle even being planned? Seriously, what the fuck I’d going on?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 04:41:23 UTC No. 15876484
>>15876479
it's as if they are completely ignoring the successes of spacex. or they do see it and are actively deciding to do the opposite. they cant possibly be so ignorant and so i blame stupidity
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 04:49:11 UTC No. 15876491
>>15876484
>it's as if they are completely ignoring the successes of spacex. or they do see it and are actively deciding to do the opposite. they cant possibly be so ignorant
You don't understand how mad Bezos is at Elon's general existence. He very deliberately does things opposite of Elon (Kuiper, Rivian, New Glenn) to prove that Sneedlon Chuck is a big mean doodoo head and his companies are successful in spite of him. This works about as well as you might thing but Bezos hasn't run out of mald or money yet so it will continue.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 04:50:51 UTC No. 15876493
>>15876491
If mald money can solve long term cryo hydrogen storage in orbit, I'll be impressed
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 04:56:59 UTC No. 15876503
BO's just an oldspace company without the pedigree. Any embarrassing comparisons to SpaceX are merely incidental to this foundation.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 05:09:47 UTC No. 15876516
I need to coom
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 05:11:56 UTC No. 15876519
i need more out of spaceflight. starship was hype but there's just not much going on in general lately. there are too many boring periods.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 05:12:38 UTC No. 15876522
>>15876519
Vulcan kicks off CLPS launches next month
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 05:12:49 UTC No. 15876523
>>15876519
The jews did this
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 05:21:00 UTC No. 15876536
>>15876519
I wish China would get off their ass and build a Starship clone
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 05:39:10 UTC No. 15876583
>>15876536
Even if they could, they just couldn't build the engines. They are probably 8 years away. Look at how blue origin is struggling behind the richest man, and you think china's late entry is going to work?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 05:39:50 UTC No. 15876585
>>15876519
play ksp (the first one) with mods
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 05:42:29 UTC No. 15876590
>>15876420
I can't believe Thunderf00t-o is actually tsundere for Elon-sama. kawaii~~
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 05:49:56 UTC No. 15876604
>>15876583
I thought the chinks just built a huge engine manufacturing facility
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 05:54:40 UTC No. 15876616
>>15876435
real spaceflight fans when watching the explosion: "oh shit fuck yeah"
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 05:57:18 UTC No. 15876621
>>15876473
SpaceX isnt the same company now as it was then
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 05:59:06 UTC No. 15876625
>>15876621
actually there are reasons for that gap, and NASA unsurprisingly was one of them
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 06:10:42 UTC No. 15876641
What if we made a fuckhuge ion engine
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 06:12:05 UTC No. 15876648
>>15876519
Build your own interplanetary rocket, nigger.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 06:19:49 UTC No. 15876663
>>15876398
Propably kerbal autism like ship built in orbit. Just a long pole with engines and rest of parts glued to it's sides.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 06:19:52 UTC No. 15876664
>>15876479
>Any word
My massive cope about this topic is an assumption that literally all of Blorgin's testing is done virtually or in isolation and the only test flight they'll ever need is final validation (i.e. Artemis 1 for SLS)
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 06:21:50 UTC No. 15876668
>>15876423
Standard procedure. The heavy equipment needs to get up there and then leave somehow, after all.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 06:22:07 UTC No. 15876669
>>15876523
Jewish space lasers shot down stage 2
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 06:30:05 UTC No. 15876689
>>15874965
implessive...
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 06:42:49 UTC No. 15876698
>>15875713
>blue line until red line is both of them together. >Sudden first drop is separation event
>continuing blue line is sn-25 going up into space
>hard crashing red line is superheavy going sideways and losing control
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 06:44:15 UTC No. 15876701
>>15875932
he has xitter as his personal, dedicated online shitter
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 06:46:20 UTC No. 15876705
>>15876698
anon, you have tritanopia
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 06:46:37 UTC No. 15876706
>impulse space
are they going anywhere or will they be dead in 10 years
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 06:47:39 UTC No. 15876708
>>15876706
SpaceX + Impulse Space = Total spaceflight competitor death
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 06:48:51 UTC No. 15876712
>>15876221
its gambling. has been around as long as stocks have existed. In ye olden days used to call them penny stocks. These days they cleverly rebranded themselves as "start ups" to rope in the money from large scale, individually microscopic money lenders like casual retail investors
that and now also you can add crypto to start ups as the dedicated gambling tables
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 06:49:50 UTC No. 15876715
https://www.intelligenceonline.com/
>launches from a mountain
ESTRONAUT BTFO
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 06:50:58 UTC No. 15876717
>>15876705
>color blindness
alright, fine purple line. Happy?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 06:51:07 UTC No. 15876718
>>15876715
China is extremely strong
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 06:52:35 UTC No. 15876721
>>15876717
i am concerned for your optical health
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 06:53:15 UTC No. 15876722
>>15876715
>plateau
some "mountain"
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 06:53:37 UTC No. 15876723
>>15876715
VELY implessive...
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 06:54:12 UTC No. 15876724
Wernher von Braun would be so proud
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 07:07:28 UTC No. 15876748
>>15875381
Joey B says 3d printing solid rocket motors is a bad idea and I agree with him
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 07:14:44 UTC No. 15876761
>>15876715
Based China building a pad in the middle of nowhere just to shit on the poos
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 07:27:12 UTC No. 15876771
>>15876748
>Joey B
cringe
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 07:36:47 UTC No. 15876781
i do wonder how this art would look like if nasa made it today
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 07:39:28 UTC No. 15876786
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 08:12:14 UTC No. 15876810
>>15876341
It looks like there was a LOX leak from the QD panel >>15874837 which would explain the burn being something like 30 seconds short of the intended duration and the velocity coming up short.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 08:14:00 UTC No. 15876813
>>15876810
Second stage prop leaks, eh?
>ghost of LV0010 pointing and laughing
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 08:21:31 UTC No. 15876823
>>15876813
it's so over
starship is doomed
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 08:22:57 UTC No. 15876827
>>15876823
But wait, a QD failure! That's also LV0006!
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 08:30:00 UTC No. 15876833
>>15876813
Astra managed to fuck up a simple pressure fed engine.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 08:30:16 UTC No. 15876834
>>15875718
super strong diamagnetic material, which is interesting in its own right but won't reinvent the world like a superconductor
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 08:50:31 UTC No. 15876845
>>15876771
no u
>>15876833
really incredible how badly they fucked up
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 09:18:28 UTC No. 15876864
>>15875709
There was a brief period where the whole stack would have been pushed by only three engines at partial thrust, looks like the entire stack was actually decelerating at that point due to drag, which would cause fuel to become unsettled.
The likely solution here would be refining the hot staging process to prevent any period of negative G, higher thrust on the booster until the ship is under power.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 09:19:48 UTC No. 15876866
>>15875807
ArmV7 Triple core
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 09:25:25 UTC No. 15876871
>>15875496
I think it'll work. I've been following QI stuff for years and either Mad Mike is correct about GR being nonphysical and inertia/gravity being due to pressure gradients in a bath of Unruh radiation, or he's accidentally created a warp drive. The basic principle of "do something to local frame to make the ship fall forward" MUST be an Alcubierre drive if gravity is caused by bent space. Given how the drive works (rapid acceleration of electrons between capacitors) this would explain inertia and the acceleration/gravity equivalence by showing that strong accelerations bend space around them.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 09:27:42 UTC No. 15876873
>>15876864
At least they didn't have too much thrust and bump Starship like it was Falcon 1. Elon would have killed someone.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 09:29:29 UTC No. 15876877
When do we find out if the schizodrive worked anyway?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 09:32:07 UTC No. 15876880
I thought test 2 was a really good sign that we are heading in the right direction fast
at this point last week I was wayyy more pessimistic and I thought this shit may never happen
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 09:32:58 UTC No. 15876881
>>15876877
January, probably. They have to wait for all the other test articles on the cubesat to finish their experiments before they try changing orbits. IVO has said that'll be early December. Then they have to spend time running tests to make sure the drive works and if it can reverse thrust as predicted. Then they'll probably wait a bit to confirm their findings before public release.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 09:33:33 UTC No. 15876883
50 years from now some fags will be on a business trip to the moon and they'll complain because the moon sucks
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 09:35:42 UTC No. 15876886
>>15876883
Business travel can suck the joy out of any destination.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 09:36:32 UTC No. 15876888
>>15875952
If the ship is traveling partly sideways, then gravity will not entirely counteract the movement of propellant due to deceleration.
When you slow down in a car, you are thrown forwards regardless of gravity.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 09:44:30 UTC No. 15876896
>>15876827
At least they got their staging right
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 09:45:21 UTC No. 15876897
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3h
New cope just dropped
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 09:55:42 UTC No. 15876909
imagine having a youtube channel and wasting it on trying to talk shit about ift-2. if you want views then go make asmr feet videos. if you want a space channel then do something valuable with it.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 09:58:22 UTC No. 15876912
>>15876909
Watching him double down after having many wrong takeaways from IFT-1 is very entertaining.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 10:10:41 UTC No. 15876929
>>15876420
hasn't he always gone back and forth on things? signs he's not an npc
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 10:11:35 UTC No. 15876933
>>15876912
Eh it's fine, just add him to the list of seething faggots who keep moving the goalposts.
>OK I KNOW IFT5 WAS A COMPLETE SUCCESS BUT WHAT ABOUT THE RELIABILITY HUH WHAT ABOUT THE ECONOMICS HUH HOW MANY TIMES CAN THEY EVEN REUSE THE VEHICLE???
Literally nothing is ever enough for them.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 10:20:50 UTC No. 15876944
I think Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly sounds kinda Reddit and cringe.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 10:22:03 UTC No. 15876949
someone made a chris cope jakk. I don't think it's as good as my estronaut jakk.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 10:23:48 UTC No. 15876950
>>15876944
why? "RUD" just sounds like it means explosion or crash.
Do you have a better term?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 10:24:16 UTC No. 15876951
>>15876383
>>15876399
he also unironically gets his takes on politics from the tranny contrapoints. he's opposed to Mars colonisation because it has some unhealthy air of white colonialism or something.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 10:25:26 UTC No. 15876953
>>15876950
explosion or crash
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 10:33:13 UTC No. 15876956
RUD is such a reddit term
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 10:33:21 UTC No. 15876957
>>15876864
On second thoughts this doesn't make much sense. the overall acceleration of the stack was likely only around 0.3-0.5G before stage separation.
At a 45° angle this means a very measly 0.2G vertically, which would cause the stack to slow down a lot in vertical velocity Vs 1G of gravity, however the stack only slowed down a little bit.
Most likely there was still plenty of horizontal acceleration, so the tank should remain settled.
Most likely then it was either direct head on deceleration from the ship engines, or potentially transverse deceleration from side on drag/continued pressure from the ship engines that caused fuel to slosh.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 10:35:28 UTC No. 15876959
>>15876150
By the time chinks will have a working Falcon 9 clone, SpaceX will have a working Starship (or will at least be very close to that).
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 10:36:19 UTC No. 15876960
>>15876896
Man the way this guy tries to be funny is the most awkward forced shit I've ever seen. What a loathesome personality!
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 10:38:19 UTC No. 15876961
>>15876129
Not clicking that, but:
>IFT-1 engine photo
>A picture of the N1
1) Is this an old video or is he using misleading images?
2) Starship is already better than N1 since it didn't fucking explode on the launch pad.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 10:41:57 UTC No. 15876965
>>15876961
He's another CSS/ESG/Thunderfaggot tier "skeptic", just ignore him. Actually he may even be worse than the hated thundernigger since thundernigger at least made a modest congratulations for IFT2 and even of musk too.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 10:56:24 UTC No. 15876978
>>15876944
reddit Zoomers need to be killed off
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:06:08 UTC No. 15876989
>>15876981
It's not centered REEEEEEE
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:10:05 UTC No. 15876995
>>15876877
I don't know what's there to prove. Tape outgassing engines are a proven technology.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:10:51 UTC No. 15876996
>>15876810
how did they maintain tank pressure if there was a big leak
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:11:10 UTC No. 15876997
buckle up.
BE READY.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka5
common sneed schizo will break down the launch for us.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:18:07 UTC No. 15877004
>>15875717
If all the propellant was floating how did any engines light to restore positive G-forces? In fact why wouldn't the three engines firing throughout stall?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:20:05 UTC No. 15877005
>>15876989
Actually, it is! However, the ship is rotated such that the visible portions not covered by fog give the impression that the ship is not centered.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:24:16 UTC No. 15877007
>>15876981
It's a spectacular photo
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:42:22 UTC No. 15877016
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:44:08 UTC No. 15877019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3h
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:45:03 UTC No. 15877021
>>15877019
>>15876897
You forgot that you already advertised here.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:46:16 UTC No. 15877022
>>15876271
They're just gonna have to put up a GPS network for the moon and mars
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:47:14 UTC No. 15877023
>>15875626
>9:48
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=58
Those fucking tiles man. You can watch them come off one by one in realtime.
And people said these were going to be less fragile and more reliably "mechanically attached". Instead even the POS shuttle had better fucking tiles.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:50:16 UTC No. 15877025
>>15877023
>Instead even the POS shuttle had better fucking tiles.
They were affixed tighter thanks to epoxy, but I wouldn't say that made them better.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:50:20 UTC No. 15877026
>>15876981
igoy is not a real phone
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:50:35 UTC No. 15877027
>>15877023
it's just like the fondag: they're seeing how far they can push the "easily replaceable tile" meme. They're going to have to make them less easily replaceable.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:50:57 UTC No. 15877028
>>15877023
kek, true. its hilarious watchin trannyX fail.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:52:43 UTC No. 15877031
>>15877019
>8:50
>their boiloff mitigation is prayer
i have to admit this got a hearty kek out of me
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 11:55:54 UTC No. 15877034
>>15876997
>>15877019
kek, the comments are beautiful, I almost wish I still had a google account so I could mess around with them. I will pay trolls with (you)s.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 12:18:55 UTC No. 15877058
>>15877051
Lmao, she actually has no counter-argument, just pure seethe
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 12:33:41 UTC No. 15877076
>>15877074
You forgot about the plovers, chud.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 12:35:12 UTC No. 15877077
>>15876280
it will boil off, its a scam
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 12:36:14 UTC No. 15877078
Updates I think (extra bulletpoints)
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mis
>The flight test’s conclusion came when telemetry was lost near the end of second stage burn prior to engine cutoff after more than eight minutes of flight. The team verified a safe command destruct was appropriately triggered based on available vehicle performance data.
>The water-cooled flame deflector and other pad upgrades performed as expected, requiring minimal post-launch work to be ready for upcoming vehicle tests and the next integrated flight test.
>The team at Starbase is already working final preparations on the vehicles slated for use in Starship’s third flight test, with Ship and Booster static fires coming up next.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 12:38:22 UTC No. 15877083
>>15877078
So maybe the ship was only blown up because they knew it wouldn't reach the safe zone in Hawaii and they wanted to avoid dropping it on Africa.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 12:39:14 UTC No. 15877084
https://twitter.com/DrChrisCombs/st
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 12:43:00 UTC No. 15877092
>>15877083
I dont think they blew it up, it was automatic
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 12:44:12 UTC No. 15877094
its over
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 12:47:30 UTC No. 15877098
>>15877084
He left out the next paragraph because then his whining would have no bite.
>Although the core stage was new hardware, the upper stage ICPS was a (very, very lightly) modified version of a Delta rocket upper stage that has been flying for a quarter of a century. Put another way, the core stage of the SLS rocket, and the Super Heavy booster have now both completed one successful launch. If SpaceX had stuck an ICPS and the Orion spacecraft hardware on top of Super Heavy, it could have gone to the Moon on Saturday.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 12:49:36 UTC No. 15877099
>>15875807
Where exactly on Starship do they have the computer? Just an Optiplex duct taped in the engine bay?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 12:50:29 UTC No. 15877100
>>15877098
Berger shouldn't have written that article, the rocket enthusiast community was pretty good at ignoring mud slinging and not bothering with it, now it's a bit tarnished.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 12:58:38 UTC No. 15877116
>>15877076
>have "problem"
etc.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:05:33 UTC No. 15877122
>>15877100
what? there has been massive mudslinging between towards SLS forever and towards Musk and Starship as well, but it hasn't been really that tribalistic (SLS stans vs Starship stans) and I don't think this will change it
Berger has been a SLS hater forever, maybe there was a lull lately but implying something changed now and *now* its tarnished is just retarded
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:06:45 UTC No. 15877124
>>15877122
>>15877100
besides, calling SLS the piece of shit it is is not mud slinging, that is just stating the facts
it was more like the SLS stans were "okay we know its absolute shit and expensive but can we drop this subject already, getting the same GAO report gets boring"
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:09:23 UTC No. 15877127
>>15877098
Kind of misleading. The one thing special about SLS is that it's crew rated right off the bat. Super Heavy needs to prove itself in dozens of flights first.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:09:29 UTC No. 15877128
>>15877126
https://twitter.com/DrChrisCombs/st
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:14:40 UTC No. 15877139
>>15877126
I generally find him annoying but he is right here, those aren't proven yet
but have people said that? this kind of seems like a strawman
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:15:14 UTC No. 15877141
>>15877122
i don't know
the article just reads like pure cope
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:22:50 UTC No. 15877154
>>15877099
its like a mechjeb module in ksp. you just slap it anywhere.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:26:10 UTC No. 15877160
>>15877128
He's right. What if SpaceX is gonna pivot to machining Starship from 80 meter blocks of solid titanium tomorrow and it's gonna cost 5-10 dollars more than SLS per launch? Ever thought of that?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:28:09 UTC No. 15877164
>>15877146
What do you do with an empty steel hull in orbit?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:33:05 UTC No. 15877170
>Introducing Zhuque-3
>Keywords: reusable, methane, stainless steel, 20t expended, >16.5t landing on ship, >11t landing on land, 9 TQ-12A engines (?)
Landspace is a serious company, but damn, this has to be the most stereotypical SX copycat ever
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:39:11 UTC No. 15877176
>>15877170
ahh... another china powerpoint extrodinaire...
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:40:00 UTC No. 15877177
>>15877176
Landspace actually can do shit
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:45:03 UTC No. 15877179
>>15877019
interesting tidbit of history about a oxygen feed line being broken due to resonance on apollo 6
on S2 on the J2 engine had a spark igniter which had ice form on it during testing on the ground, which dampened it from vibrations and protecting it, but in space no ice formed on it so it rang and shattered
2 minutes of kvetching why its a failure and spacex is secretive and can't admit failure
SpaceX is apparently still breaking the clean water act with the deluge system according to ESG hound
Raptor reliability still unknown, visually they looked fine but we don't know the engine data, relighting didn't work
tiles still felling off is an issue
still think IFT-1 was a publicity stunt, his honest opinion
Starship programme is not going well, not promising
second flight of starship and still doesn't work
this iterative development programme does not seem to be working for them
he understand hop tests, but all the rest doesn't make sense as there is a lot you can do on the ground with simulations and test articles, building full scale vehicles seems like a waste of money especially if you scrap them due to a design change
how many IFTS are there going to be?
I think there is just a deep seated fundamental disconnect, he is deeply "oldspace" and just doesn't see how iterative hardware rich development can be both quicker and cheaper
he must have heard these comments but just chooses to ignore them
also, SpaceX is building a Starship factory so scrapping old test articles is not really a big problem, that is just part of building and iterating upon the factory, when you develop and ramp up that there is going to be scrap, its not a big deal
steel is not expensive
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:45:21 UTC No. 15877180
>>15877176
Imagine if China collaborated on their power points with Russia! Like imagine that thing, but also Asparagus staged with like 6 more of itself.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:45:41 UTC No. 15877181
>>15877164
space station
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:45:49 UTC No. 15877182
>>15876519
when the fuck has this general ever been satisfied
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:46:30 UTC No. 15877183
>>15877170
copying SX makes sense
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:47:06 UTC No. 15877185
>>15877177
Have they landed space yet? Well I didn't think so.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:50:56 UTC No. 15877190
>>15877182
expectations went way up when were were having starship test flights every month back in 2021, and never went down
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:53:40 UTC No. 15877194
>>15877179
he acts like hardware cost is a massive fraction of the total cost of the rocket, but the whole reasson Elon started SpaceX was because that was not actually the case. The vast majorety of cost is manpower because of the low cadence of flights. Dreamchaser for example must have a miniscule material cost compared to the labour cost because theve spent over a decade employing thosuands of engineers to make one of them. So the moral of the story is if you are going to employ a massive team to manufacture a superheavy lift launcher, you best use them to build as many superheavy lift launchers as possible
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 13:58:50 UTC No. 15877198
>>15876997
4h to go lol
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 14:04:24 UTC No. 15877201
>>15877182
Never
and that's a good thing
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 14:04:58 UTC No. 15877202
>>15877182
satisfaction is stagnation is death
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 14:34:11 UTC No. 15877233
>>15877019
Just donated, fuck musk
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 14:39:13 UTC No. 15877238
>>15877051
she's just outed herself as a do-nothing NASA pencil pusher
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 14:51:22 UTC No. 15877257
>>15877170
Super Falcon 9 is one of the smartest things you can do to catch up. China will always have payloads they won't or can't launch with foreign rockets no matter how cheap.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 14:57:12 UTC No. 15877263
>>15877099
There's a computer for each engine inside one of those machined shiny boxes and those connect to a main flight computer in the payload bay
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 14:57:44 UTC No. 15877266
>>15877261
i still dont get the point of these articles
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 14:59:19 UTC No. 15877268
>>15877266
ad click revenue
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:00:20 UTC No. 15877270
>>15877257
It's going to be so funny when every American F9 competitors fail because of starship while China manage to eek out a few of them and manage to at least match starship in cumulative (but of course not cumulative payload)
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:02:34 UTC No. 15877274
NASA Mars smallsat mission to be on first New Glenn launch
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https://spacenews.com/nasa-mars-sma
> WASHINGTON — NASA expects that a Mars smallsat mission will be on the first launch of Blue Origin’s New Glenn launch vehicle within a year, although with some risk about whether the rocket will be ready in time.
> NASA selected Blue Origin in February to launch the Escape and Plasma Acceleration and Dynamics Explorers (ESCAPADE) mission, a pair of smallsats that will study the interaction of the solar wind with the magnetosphere of Mars. The contract value was not initially announced but later disclosed in a federal procurement database to be $20 million.
> At a Nov. 20 meeting of the NASA Advisory Council’s human exploration and operations committee, Bradley Smith, director of NASA’s Launch Services Office, said he was “incredibly excited” about the ESCAPADE launch, which he said was scheduled for about one year. His charts, though, and past presentations, listed an August 2024 launch for ESCAPADE.
> Later in the committee meeting, he confirmed that NASA expected ESCAPADE to be on the inaugural New Glenn launch. “We will very likely be the very first launch of New Glenn,” he said.
> Besides the inherent technical risks in the first launch of a new rocket, there are also schedule risks. New Glenn development is years behind the original schedule Blue Origin put forward. The company has not provided recent updates about progress towards a first launch of the rocket, although Jarrett Jones, senior vice president for New Glenn at Blue Origin, said at World Satellite Business Week in September that the first flight vehicle would arrive at a Florida integration facility by the end of the year, with the company planning “multiple” launches of New Glenn in 2024.
multiple launches of New Glenn in 2024? hmm
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:06:11 UTC No. 15877284
>>15877276
ArianeGroup begins testing prototype of multirole Susie upper stage
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> BREMEN, Germany — ArianeGroup has started testing what it considers to be a versatile answer to numerous challenges facing European spaceflight.
> ArianeGroup quietly began testing a small demonstrator for its Smart Upper Stage for Innovative Exploration (SUSIE) in recent weeks. The vehicle was announced at the International Astronautical Congress in September 2022, but little more had been heard of the internally-funded project.
> Testing of a two-meter-tall, 100-kilogram jet engine-powered demonstrator began in October with its first ignition at ArianeGroup’s site at Les Mureaux, according to an initial French language media report.
> ArianeGroup described the 1/6th scale “test and learn” demonstrator as the “first concrete step in ArianeGroup’s roadmap to rapidly master and leverage the key technologies needed to validate the concept, notably during low speed flight, approach and landing phases.”
>The full sized Susie, measuring 12 meters tall, five meters wide and with a payload capacity of seven tons, is designed to launch atop of an Ariane 64 rocket. It could instead carry five astronauts, seated one behind another facing forwards towards the tip of the spacecraft. Susie is also intended to be fully reusable, potentially reducing long-term costs and increasing mission efficiency.
> Parachute and abort tests are being scheduled, with hop testing with the demonstrator expected to continue until Q2 2025, Marco Wolf, program manager for future projects and human spaceflight at ArianeGroup, told SpaceNews at the Space Tech Expo Europe in Bremen, Germany, Nov. 16.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:08:20 UTC No. 15877288
>>15877284
https://twitter.com/ArianeGroup/sta
> The team will be looking at a range of issues including sound pressure from rocket motors, the accommodation of astronauts, and the robustness of the thermal protection system. The crew version of Susie will not feature an escape tower, but carry likely solid rocket motors on the outside of the craft for an emergency crew escape system.
> Although specific dates and budget figures are not available, the timeline for a smaller commercial cargo version of Susie could be ready for 2028, meeting the deadline set by ESA for the European reusable cargo system contest. The system would be intended to serve the ISS and potentially Starlab and commercial space stations.
> The spacecraft design intends to be scalable without significant changes to its aerodynamic values. Crewed missions could potentially occur in the early 2030s, says Wolf.
so subscale cargo version by 2028 and a crew mission in the early 2030s
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:12:53 UTC No. 15877295
>>15875397
Starliner “on track” for April crewed test flight, Stars aligning for Boeing crew launch in April
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https://spacenews.com/starliner-on-
> WASHINGTON — NASA says the first crewed launch of Boeing’s CST-100 Starliner vehicle remains on schedule for the middle of April as the company completes work to resolve the latest technical problems with the vehicle.
> Speaking at a Nov. 20 meeting of the NASA Advisory Council’s human exploration and operations committee, Phil McAlister, director of the agency’s commercial space division, said preparations for the Crew Flight Test (CFT) mission were on schedule for a launch as soon as April 14.
> “We are on track for that launch,” he said. “We’ve still got a lot of things to do, obviously.”
> McAlister said he believed that the tape remediation work was complete. Boeing, in a statement to SpaceNews, confirmed that the company had removed more than 1,300 meters of the tape from the Starliner capsule. The company also wrapped the flammable tape in some areas with a non-flammable tape or covered it with a “non-flammable multi-layer fabric sleeve.”
> The CFT mission, besides the first crewed flight for Starliner, includes two key milestones. He pointed out that it will be the first time a crewed U.S. capsule lands on land, rather than splashing down in the ocean. It is also in line to be first crewed launch from Cape Canaveral, rather than neighboring Kennedy Space Center, since Apollo 7 in 1968. CFT will launch on an Atlas 5 from Space Launch Complex (SLC) 41.
---
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/202
> The long-awaited crewed launch of Starliner has gained increased positivity that its latest launch date will remain on target, following numerous slips since the maiden uncrewed flight to the International Space Station (ISS).
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:26:51 UTC No. 15877311
>>15877128
>>15877126
This guy is a troll
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:27:26 UTC No. 15877312
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:29:50 UTC No. 15877317
>>15877276
like mini sls!
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:32:15 UTC No. 15877321
>>15877274
kind of strange how this works. New glenn gets a payload froma paying customer for its first launch but Falcon heavy never did. Whats going on with that?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:33:13 UTC No. 15877323
>>15877321
malding money greasing gears
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:34:11 UTC No. 15877325
>>15877312
so Booster RUD instead of getting blown up by FTS
Starship was destroyed by FTS due to the burn not being long enough
Ship and Booster have some final preparations before static fires that will come next
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:38:22 UTC No. 15877335
>>15877325
>so Booster RUD instead of getting blown up by FTS
yeah those last few engine explosions were super forceful.
probably broke off the downcomer.
>Starship was destroyed by FTS due to the burn not being long enough
sounds more like due to loss of telemetry
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:40:12 UTC No. 15877337
>>15877335
it seemed to be leaking oxygen and for some reason perhap related to that, the performance of the engines dropped off before it terminated
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:53:53 UTC No. 15877349
>>15877019
>their boiloff mitigation is prayer
Yes.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:55:16 UTC No. 15877351
>>15876344
>wormhole
Don't give FWS any more excuses!!!!!
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:56:57 UTC No. 15877352
Thunderf00t=transitioned
Ass pressure astronaut=transitioning
common stock shorter=?
esghound=delusional
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 15:59:39 UTC No. 15877356
>>15877352
CSS has a video coming in 2h >>15876997
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:05:00 UTC No. 15877364
I need answers, is there a way to build large pressure vessels with IRSU on the moon, mars or mercury without needing to use sheet metal tubes or inflatable textiles? Any settlement needs to expand and is there a way to build living space at least partially above ground without having a factory already there for it? All the hab designs I read were proonted with plastic walls with no mention of holding atmospheric pressure
So can we build a building out of martian brick and sulfurcrete that wouldn't explode from being pressurized, or are we stuck with needing to weld and weave any surface building?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:05:08 UTC No. 15877365
>>15876641
The thrust to weight ratio would still be garbage
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:07:37 UTC No. 15877366
>>15877364
if you can do it out of brick and sulfurcrete mostly and then just need some light liner, then that shouldn't be too big of a deal
if you wan't to be truly self sustainable you are going to have to build those factories anyway
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:09:13 UTC No. 15877369
>>15877352
do you mean transitioned in terms of gender or opinion on elon musks companies?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:10:53 UTC No. 15877370
>>15877365
What if we somehow made it weigh way less
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:13:06 UTC No. 15877373
>>15877128
SLS went to the moon? Amazing!
Interesting because Starship will actually go to the moon.
This guy is actually retarded or a troll or both.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:13:34 UTC No. 15877374
>>15877363
Musk's life is more well known than any other human in history imo.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:14:14 UTC No. 15877375
>>15877374
No, there is always Chris Chan.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:14:30 UTC No. 15877376
>>15877177
Then why aren't we looking at real hardware?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:14:35 UTC No. 15877377
>>15877373
He's suffering from EDS
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:17:43 UTC No. 15877381
>>15877238
IIRC she's in some kind of DEI position that's not at all technical, so her comment, in addition to being stupid and wrong, is completely hypocritical and disingenuous.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:19:33 UTC No. 15877384
>>15877276
I liked playing with toy rockets when I was a kid, too :^)
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:20:06 UTC No. 15877385
>>15877381
she doesnt work in spaceflight
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:22:09 UTC No. 15877387
>>15877363
based enemy destroyer
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:22:34 UTC No. 15877388
Hahahahahahahahahaha
MSR is DEAD
https://spaceref.com/science-and-ex
Paywalled but NASA is killing the European contribution to the project, as ESA was going to build the sample catcher
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:23:34 UTC No. 15877390
>>15877388
wasn't it kind of dead/on hold anyway? waiting for commercial options or something like that
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:24:03 UTC No. 15877391
>>15876664
But even with the Artemis program, they had test articles, like a test tank they pressurized to failure, and they had tests of the solids, and a test flight of the capsule on Ares, and that is with most of the hardware being legacy stuff that is fairly well validated already.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:25:33 UTC No. 15877394
>>15877364
melt roggs
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:25:39 UTC No. 15877395
>>15877363
This is beyond cringe
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:26:01 UTC No. 15877397
Muskrats? I'm still waiting for the official explanation for Starship being blown up (apparently automatically).
Also where are the on board images? Even the spacex fags are noticing in leddit.
I hope you learned a lot and all.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:26:47 UTC No. 15877400
>>15877388
It would be cheaper without Europeans involved. It was foolish to invite them
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:26:49 UTC No. 15877401
>15877395
t. Thunderf00t
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:27:46 UTC No. 15877402
>>15877397
2 weeks
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:28:25 UTC No. 15877405
>>15877397
any of her naked?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:29:53 UTC No. 15877407
>>15877366
Building a factory for traveller pressurized gers and pressure vessels was always going to be included but we want to try easing the logistical burden as much as possible for any early settlements. So a brick and sulfcrete mortar structure with a plastic lining should be able to withstand 750 mBar internal pressure for a reliable hab block?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:30:53 UTC No. 15877409
>>15877397
Apparently they hired the fags from NSF to do their livestream, so production value tanked. The tranny previously in charge has become disgruntled and based on tweets clearly not giving his full effort.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:32:24 UTC No. 15877412
>>15877363
This better be a quote from somewhere
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:33:59 UTC No. 15877416
>>15877397
Flight abort system triggered after the entire flight, probably detected issues caused by liftoff and decided to trigger.
All the important liftoff and separation tasks went off just fine, they are probably reiterating the design to fix whatever problems occurred, it's on par with the Saturn V testingwise
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:39:24 UTC No. 15877426
>>15877416
SATURN V FLEW FURST TIME FLAWLESSLY SPAY SEX NERD.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:39:34 UTC No. 15877427
>>15877412
its a quote now
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:40:40 UTC No. 15877430
>15877028
low quality baits dont get (you)'s do they?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:43:30 UTC No. 15877436
DLR Successfully Tests its New Red Kite Solid Rocket Motor, Skyrora Partners with Spirit AeroSystems on Rocket Manufacturing
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https://europeanspaceflight.com/dlr
> The German space agency DLR completed the first flight test of its Red Kite solid rocket motor that will power European sounding rockets.
> Development of the Red Kite rocket motor began in 2019 as a joint project between DLR and Bayern-Chemie. Red Kite is a one-tonne class solid rocket motor that can be utilized in a one or two-stage configuration. The motor has a maximum thrust of 226 kN and a burn time of 12 seconds. It is capable of carrying payloads of between 200 and 600 kilograms to altitudes of up to 350 kilometres.
> With the rocket motor now ready to enter service, the first operational flight of a rocket equipped with a Red Kite motor is expected to take place in February 2024 from the Esrange Space Center.
---
https://payloadspace.com/skyrora-pa
> Skyrora, a UK-based launch startup, is aiming to keep its supply chain close to home as it gears up for its first orbital launch tests.
> The company signed an MoU with Spirit AeroSystems, a UK aerospace manufacturing company, to boost its domestic rocket design and manufacturing, the startup announced today. The collaboration will also grant Spirit the use of Skyprint 2, a large hybrid 3D printer that the company uses to make its additively manufactured engines.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:46:33 UTC No. 15877442
https://youtu.be/8tD-9H2c6GY?si=vMT
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:50:20 UTC No. 15877448
>>15877363
reminds me of the fedora meme
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:53:52 UTC No. 15877456
They should name the first Starship "Enterprise"
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:55:56 UTC No. 15877459
>>15874888
is this a new picture? havent seen it before
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:57:09 UTC No. 15877461
>>15877456
>Not Phoenix
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:59:07 UTC No. 15877464
>>15877363
big yikes moment
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 16:59:44 UTC No. 15877465
>15877461
cringe.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:01:38 UTC No. 15877471
>>15874965
>Chinks landing on the Moon would have similar effect but unfortunately I think they will leave that to happen on the 100th annieversary of the founding of the PRC in october 2049
If chinks can even create a mediocre starship copy (like 40 tonnes to LEO fully reusable instead of 150), they could get to mars well before then
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:03:16 UTC No. 15877474
>>15874965
2049 will be when they would have surpassed US in almost every metric. That would be the "great leap" forward. LMAO
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:04:34 UTC No. 15877475
>>15874986
remember when people were crying and saying that the damage above would take well over a year to fix and they'd have to fully rebuild the OLM
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:04:51 UTC No. 15877476
>>15877471
Starship clones get more challenging as they scale down. The whole point of making it big (besides Martian aerobraking) is to cheese the square cube law for mass ratio.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:07:46 UTC No. 15877481
360 degrees, wow that’s hot!
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:10:05 UTC No. 15877487
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wly
what if this was vr
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:10:42 UTC No. 15877490
>>15875274
i mean, seems like they mostly have, considering all 33 booster engines remained on throughout the entire flight. how many people on sfg predicted that? everybody was saying they'd lose at least 3-4 engines again, if not more
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:12:47 UTC No. 15877493
>>15877490
>>15877490
uhm. BRO.
they lost all 33 engines plus the engines on the orbiter if you werent paying enough attention to see that...
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:13:44 UTC No. 15877495
>>15877490
yeah. it's all about remaining within the nominal operating bounds eg head pressure and prop density.
that's why they can run forever on the test stand.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:16:04 UTC No. 15877499
>>15877468
>manned flyby
just sit in your cuck canister and imagine a real man doing real exploration
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:18:54 UTC No. 15877503
>>15877274
BO bid substantially under cost
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:21:03 UTC No. 15877509
>>15877325
>Starship was destroyed by FTS due to the burn not being long enough
That isn't what it says.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:22:05 UTC No. 15877510
>>15877274
>suborbital Mars mission
devilishly counterintuitive
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:25:47 UTC No. 15877515
>>15877511
It's as much an abort option as regular pusher or small srb separation.
It can separate if the booster remains intact.
If it explodes there is no chance.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:26:30 UTC No. 15877517
>>15877363
post address or ur just talking shit
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:29:55 UTC No. 15877524
>>15877515
Starship actually survived even after Super Heavy RUD in IFT-1
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:31:22 UTC No. 15877525
>>15877511
if the booster starts disintegrating its likely that the ship engines wont gather enough thrust in time to seperate safely, and if it happens near maxq then i doubt the ship will be doing well. if it is possible to surive staging at maxq though then i guess they could have an abort mode where they return to launch site then hover for several minutes to reduce the weight of the ship before landing.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:38:55 UTC No. 15877534
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:51:53 UTC No. 15877547
Any news as to why the second stage failed yet?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:52:18 UTC No. 15877548
>>15877547
ULA snipers.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 17:59:47 UTC No. 15877560
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:03:18 UTC No. 15877570
>>15877363
he's literally me
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:18:03 UTC No. 15877598
>>15877459
Pretty sure this is from Galileo, it took lots of pics
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:19:02 UTC No. 15877599
>>15877597
Rope
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:19:53 UTC No. 15877600
>>15875556
perhaps not a real nuclear reactor but those heating radioisotopes NASA is already using in MMRTGs
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:21:26 UTC No. 15877602
>>15874984
reminder that this little supercritical co2 turbine has a power of 10 MW
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:25:13 UTC No. 15877609
>>15877019
based truth dropper, it's fucking over for musk
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:28:30 UTC No. 15877614
Reminder: ironic shitposting is still shitposting
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:29:18 UTC No. 15877615
>>15877597
It's over for SpaceX
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:29:58 UTC No. 15877616
>>15877603
Yes
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:31:17 UTC No. 15877618
>>15877363
This is the one quote future generation will use to describe Musk.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:32:17 UTC No. 15877620
>>15877363
Thunderfuck you scared now? This is Elon's last warning
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:34:00 UTC No. 15877622
>>15877597
FINALLY IT DROPPED
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:36:08 UTC No. 15877626
>>15877597
Common sneed just made all Muskrats rope with this latest banger.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:38:24 UTC No. 15877628
>>15877612
is that ice dropping and hitting the exhaust or what? at 4 minutes
it happens a few times
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:42:18 UTC No. 15877636
>>15877612
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wly
Some 4K kino up close and personal
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:43:47 UTC No. 15877640
imagine praising a rocket that failed.
POV: you are a muskrat.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:44:37 UTC No. 15877641
POV: i eat poop
nobody:
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:46:48 UTC No. 15877642
>>15877597
lmao
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:47:03 UTC No. 15877643
>>15877636
one side of the OLM got a bit melty
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:48:17 UTC No. 15877648
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:50:15 UTC No. 15877650
>>15877643
That's just the Sun reflecting off the OLM.
>>15877648
Those white dots are compression artifacts
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:50:49 UTC No. 15877651
>>15877643
That must be the part that flung by the camera
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:50:50 UTC No. 15877652
>>15877643
Yeah not sure if that's metal glowing or a fire but the other pics look good. Yet to see the inside of the OLM yet
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:51:57 UTC No. 15877653
>>15877633
Neat
Apparently SpaceX asked for the images https://twitter.com/TechSpatiales/s
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:53:29 UTC No. 15877656
>>15877648
is this accurate?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:54:12 UTC No. 15877658
>>15877650
kek.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 18:54:51 UTC No. 15877662
>>15877656
Hard to argue with the facts presented in the screenshot you provide
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:00:38 UTC No. 15877668
>>15877656
I don't think you can call it raptor failure
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:01:17 UTC No. 15877670
>>15877597
the first half was like yes, this seems to be quite accurate analysis of the events
but the latter half devolves down to the usual, bordering on actually schizophrenic, conspiracy theories about spinning the launch to be positive or whatever
lol
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:02:35 UTC No. 15877671
>>15877642
>>15877648
>>15877656
I dont say this often, but it's literally over
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:03:10 UTC No. 15877672
>>15877656
Wow, he should work for spacex. incredibly smart
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:09:07 UTC No. 15877682
>>15877671
Pressure Fed Astronaut made a good point. Merlin can be reused because its not a high performance engine. Raptor is high performance yet they expect it to not ware singnificantly during use, and to not fall into the same pitfalls as rs25
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:09:51 UTC No. 15877685
>>15877274
I realize that the mission is escapade, but I definitely read it as escape-aid, which sounds like something that may be needed on Mars. Or if you are of the view of needing to escape earthers, you could call starship an escape-aid
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:13:52 UTC No. 15877690
>>15877653
They really must not know what happened
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:18:21 UTC No. 15877699
>>15877682
>merlin
>not high performance
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:23:12 UTC No. 15877706
>>15877682
Personally I think the issue isn't high performance per se, but the engine is just too complicated. In my opinion Raptor should've been a methane fueled Merlin. I've heard some rocket company (maybe firefly) developed a gas generator engine that burn fuel in the preburner almost stoichiometric
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:25:25 UTC No. 15877709
>>15877682
Ummm merlin cant be reused. it can be heavily refurbished maybe, and swapped out. but not reused
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:29:40 UTC No. 15877714
>>15877682
He's right. SpaceX doesn't know what they're doing
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:32:02 UTC No. 15877718
>>15876981
>AT&T
Muskbros... our cover story?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:34:05 UTC No. 15877721
>>15877682
the beauty of starship is that it's so ambitious that even if every single part is disposable every single launch, it still BTFOs every other rocket on the planet
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:37:57 UTC No. 15877725
>>15877721
not really lol.
If its disposable on every single launch then its only useful as an expensive LEO constellation builder or for a launch which needs a single superheavy payload put in LEO
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:39:48 UTC No. 15877729
>>15877725
Starship is trending to cost less than F9 to manufacture.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:41:05 UTC No. 15877731
>>15876981
I want to read Elon Musk's private messages. I wonder what security measures a billionaire such as him has to take concerning his phone.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:42:12 UTC No. 15877732
>>15877729
>believing SpaceX' numbers
rookie mistake. SpaceX should've landed on Mars in 2020 according to their own schedule.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:42:22 UTC No. 15877733
>>15877176
>>15877376
>>15877170
The engines already exist and have flown a rocket to orbit, they're just going from 4 engines on zq-2 to 9 on zq-3
I wouldn't be surprised if it flies next year
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:43:02 UTC No. 15877735
>>15877725
a LEO constellation builder would be nice for those weird extremely expensive nuclear tug concepts NASA has for flying to mars and Jupiter
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:44:01 UTC No. 15877737
>>15877732
Cost and development schedules. You're talking about pretty orthogonal things there mate.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:44:05 UTC No. 15877738
>>15877706
Thank you for your contribution.
Tell the entire class, what's the color of your spaceship?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:44:24 UTC No. 15877739
>>15877732
I'm the finance minister
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:44:38 UTC No. 15877740
>>15877729
>trending toward
yeah, it used to cost an insane amount, now it costs less. but it wont cost the same price as f9, thats ludicrous. Perhaps 3x f9 price optimistically. Falcon heavy is roughtly that price and they never launch falcon heavy unless they absolutely need to because heavy lift is overkill for most payloads if your rocket is more expensive than a medium lift
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:46:08 UTC No. 15877742
>>15877740
They can't launch starlink 2 without starship
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:46:37 UTC No. 15877743
>>15877740
The engines cost $250k each, the most expensive part, about $10 million for the full stack.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:48:35 UTC No. 15877747
>>15877740
Starship can launch a single cubesat and the cost to SpaceX is less than a F9. You're not fucking getting it
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:49:07 UTC No. 15877749
>>15877732
I'm an oracle
btw you are going to die of asscancer + aids
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:51:42 UTC No. 15877754
>>15877740
you think a full starship stack is going to cost 90 mil?
on what grounds, the raptors cost like 15mil perhaps, the rest of the structure can't be that complicated
and if they are doing expendable, they can throw a lot of shit away like gridfins, canards/fins on the starship and heatshield tiles on the starship
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:54:20 UTC No. 15877757
>>15877755
im already gay
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:56:32 UTC No. 15877760
>>15876997
Which anime character can this quote be attributed to?
Why are people so negative about spaceX? Are they worried it's wasting government money? Have they heard of Boing, Ratheon, etc? Are they aware of thet hundred billion or so dumped on ukraine?
It's like complaining that NASA's budget is too high, it's fucking peanuts.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:57:49 UTC No. 15877764
>>15877760
Because of Elon, someone should take away his twitter account
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:58:16 UTC No. 15877766
>>15877760
You really wanna know the truth about why I hate Musk?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 19:59:03 UTC No. 15877768
>>15877743
>>15877747
>>15877754
the cost of the manufacturing process is a small fraction of the total price. NASA shit is so expensive because they always factor in total cost of the program and divide by number of flights. SpaceX jsut states raw cost of manufacture so it looks way cheaper.
SpaceX has over 10k employees, a large number of them working on Starship. Lets say its 3k working on starship just to be simple. SpaceX has had 2 starship fligths this year. That leans (excluding material costs) each flight costs the salary of 1500 people for a year. which is 150 mil per flight. Kind of makes sense in relation to the price of other vehicles relative to their payloads. Saying its cheaper than f9 is clearly delusional. just look at it.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:01:21 UTC No. 15877771
>>15877768
Nah, I'm pretty sure a brand new SLS+Orion stack is $4 billion straight up in manufacturing. No amortization there faggot
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:02:47 UTC No. 15877774
>>15877757
can we kiss? :3
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:03:58 UTC No. 15877776
>>15877768
It's cheaper than F9
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:06:47 UTC No. 15877782
>>15877126
Why are these guys so against starship/spaceX? I presume it's to do with Elon not being espousing leftist views.
Leonard states:
>Saying starship is useless is ignoring the trend of spaceX.
>SpaceX will demonstrate that starship is fully reusable in 4 years by launching, seperating, orbiting and landing it.
Chris Combs statement:
>Leonard's statement is wrong because starship can only be fully resuable if it
>can have humans in it
>launches
>seperates stages
>orbits
>refules
>leaves LEO
>travels to the moon & mars
>lands on moon & mars
>launches from moon & mars
>returns to earth orbit
>reenters atmosphere
>lands
Chris Combs' bar for fully reusable is much more elaborate than what Leonard suggested.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:08:07 UTC No. 15877785
>>15877766
you have very gay and leftists political beliefs
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:10:04 UTC No. 15877791
>>15877771
delusional
>>15877776
delusional
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:10:12 UTC No. 15877794
>>15877782
He's superior to us, he's so much smarter
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:13:36 UTC No. 15877801
>>15877612
That booster explosion is ultra kino!
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:17:41 UTC No. 15877808
>>15877179
>SpaceX is apparently still breaking the clean water act with the deluge system according to ESG hound
Yeah why do quite a few of these anti SpaceX guys cry that the rocket's straying out of the FAA's path, or that some snakes got squashed by debris? Are they just faggot ecofacists?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:20:16 UTC No. 15877809
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eP
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:20:20 UTC No. 15877810
>>15877790
huge ass shock diamond
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:21:32 UTC No. 15877815
>>15877808
no, they don't give a single shit about the enviroment
many just hate Musk and by extension anything associated with him, in this case Starship and some are "skeptics" that are very pessimistic about anything new and thus try to rationalize why it won't work one way or another (motivated reasoning)
the enviromental stuff is just a tool, if it wasn't there they would talk about other stuff more
I doubt it there are actually very many people out there that sincerely care about the ecological side of this
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:24:19 UTC No. 15877820
>>15877782
pretty much a classic strawman from combs
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:24:23 UTC No. 15877821
>>15877766
Yes. Does your hate for Musk extend to SpaceX by association?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:25:09 UTC No. 15877824
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:25:13 UTC No. 15877826
>>15877790
If you can't jack off to this, you are gay.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:28:22 UTC No. 15877831
>>15877815
as someone who actually works in state forestry i can tell you that the vast majority of people who "care about the environment" only do so verbally or in writing when it's convenient to bring up, and couldn't give less of a shit otherwise.
believe me, all the people who actually care about preserving that salt marsh environment would be the ones to have the knowledge to tell you how positive a launch site can be for it's surrounding nature.
i hope starship launches even more so people get to that public beach even less and drive less on the dunes and dump less trash over there. anything that keeps people out of an area that's not also dumping toxic waste is automatically a godsend for it's local environment.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:31:20 UTC No. 15877837
>>15877831
reddit spacing.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:34:59 UTC No. 15877845
>>15877837
kys newfag retard
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:40:06 UTC No. 15877854
>>15877831
Based and correctpilled
Most of conservation is just about keeping normans out from trampling shit and dumping fertilisers etc
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:42:29 UTC No. 15877859
>>15877837
musk supporters are all reddit tourists.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:46:59 UTC No. 15877867
>>15877824
ET been real quiet since this dropped
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:49:09 UTC No. 15877869
>>15877854
thanks anon.
and btw, i may think estronaut is a basedfaced consoomer. but in that one starbase visiting guide video he made, he brought up some interesting points regarding the surrounding environment.
he mentions not littering, being careful where you walk and not driving over the dunes.
these are literally all the worst things that could happen to that salt marsh and the dune system and they are all caused by humans doing human stuff.
these kinds of permanent-pioneer species coastal environments are unironically very vulnerable to having their loose soil disturbed or being tread on. you are literally fucking up the system that keeps coastal barriers like dunes intact when you destroy them, without them the dunes will wash away and the coast starts eroding.
so yeah, imagine if starbase boca chica was given a permanent exclusion zone, these fucking elon derangement losers want to complain about the environment, and at the same time also want to complain about local people being kept out of the environment by spacex, which is actively helping the environment.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:49:46 UTC No. 15877870
>>15877824
>all those pops and bangs and green spits
Damn, it was over already
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:50:41 UTC No. 15877872
>>15877193
what flavor is this qt? korean?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:51:19 UTC No. 15877873
>>15877837
this was a samefag by me >>15877831
you passed the test >>15877845
you didn't pass the test >>15877859
get out newfag.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:53:29 UTC No. 15877874
>>15877870
>all those pops and bangs and green spits
Not green, yellow.
Ice falling off the vehicle and getting annihilated by raptor plume. You can clearly see the falling ice piece above each flash.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:54:06 UTC No. 15877875
>>15877335
what do i win?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:58:24 UTC No. 15877883
https://twitter.com/Astrolab_Space/
--
Payloads to be Launched on Upcoming SpaceX Mission to the Moon
https://astrolab.space/news/blog/14
> Astrolab’s Flexible Logistics and Exploration (FLEX) rover is shown in this rendering using its robotic arm to deploy a small plant pod designed by Interstellar Lab on the lunar surface. The plant pod is one of the payloads FLEX will carry to the Moon on Mission 1, which is expected to be completed as soon as mid-2026.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 20:59:12 UTC No. 15877887
>>15877875
>doesn't reach max Q
you get 4th place, you win a hug, from me.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:00:54 UTC No. 15877892
>>15877883
awesome. I thought the demo missions would land with no payload. landing with cargo will be cool.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:01:30 UTC No. 15877893
>>15877883
> HAWTHORNE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)—Today Venturi Astrolab, Inc. (Astrolab), announced it has reached an agreement with eight enterprise customers to use its Flexible Logistics and Exploration (FLEX) rover to deploy the customers’ payloads on Astrolab’s upcoming mission to the Moon which is known as Mission 1. Five customers are releasing details of their payloads today: Argo Space, Astroport, Avalon Space, Interstellar Lab, and LifeShip. Three more customers are contracted with Astrolab but intend to release details of their payloads at a future date, closer to launch. Collectively, these eight contracts are valued at more than $160 million.
> As part of Mission 1, Space Exploration Technologies (SpaceX) will transport Astrolab’s Flexible Logistics and Exploration (FLEX) rover to the lunar surface. SpaceX will use the Starship launch and landing system for this mission as soon as mid-2026. Following landing on the Moon, FLEX will deploy payloads for each of the customers. SpaceX and Astrolab expect Mission 1 to be completed as soon as mid-2026.
> Argo Space Corp. (Argo) of Hermosa Beach, California intends to use FLEX to deploy a demonstration payload that will advance the development of Argo's unique, scalable technology designed to harvest low-concentration water from Lunar regolith.
> Astroport Space Technologies of San Antonio, Texas builds infrastructure for the Moon, and intends to melt regolith to make bricks for roads, launch and landing pads, and shelters. Separately, the Astroport payload also includes a limited number of personalized lunar simulant basalt bricks sold exclusively for placement on the lunar surface to mark the start of the first road on the Moon.
> Avalon Space of Toronto will use FLEX to conduct a series of science, exploration and sustainable development experiments focused on the emerging lunar economy, leveraging a suite of both onboard and deployed elements on the lunar surface.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:02:48 UTC No. 15877895
>>15877893
>Interstellar Lab of Ivry-sur-Seine, France and Kennedy Space Center, Florida plans to use FLEX to deploy the two small plant pods on the lunar surface.
> LifeShip, Inc. of San Diego, California intends to use FLEX to deliver a capsule containing a DNA seed bank and data archive to the lunar surface. LifeShip is saving the essence of Earth across space and time, with products for people to include themselves in the story.
> Upon completion of Mission 1, Astrolab’s FLEX will become the largest and most capable rover to ever travel to the Moon. With a maximum combined rover and cargo mass of more than two tons, the FLEX rover is nearly three times the mass of its largest predecessor. FLEX is also equipped with a highly dexterous robotic arm that can be used to deploy customer payloads, manipulate instruments, and collect samples. This increased capacity and versatility provides significantly more opportunities to conduct scientific experiments and commercial endeavors on the lunar surface.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYs
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:03:23 UTC No. 15877896
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:04:18 UTC No. 15877899
>>15877896
supernova
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:05:14 UTC No. 15877904
>>15877896
kino
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:07:27 UTC No. 15877908
>>15877893
Not CLPS... A fully private moon landing?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:11:06 UTC No. 15877915
>>15877633
So, some kind of leak acting like a gas thruster spinning it out of control? Seems to fit with Hullo's LOX loss observation
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:12:03 UTC No. 15877917
>>15877899
That's how planetary nebulas are made
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:12:05 UTC No. 15877918
>>15877912
They've got a bright future in trash compacting dohoho
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:14:17 UTC No. 15877924
>>15877921
https://twitter.com/torybruno/statu
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:15:19 UTC No. 15877926
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:16:22 UTC No. 15877929
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:16:40 UTC No. 15877930
>>15877921
Still no pictures of it actually attached lol
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:17:02 UTC No. 15877931
Why didn't spacex show us any onboard camera footage this time ?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:17:23 UTC No. 15877932
>>15877929
https://twitter.com/ulalaunch/statu
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ulala
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:18:27 UTC No. 15877937
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:20:14 UTC No. 15877939
https://twitter.com/spacecoast_stve
> Hey Blue, whatcha got there?
>I spotted what looks like a New Glenn fairing on Blue Origin’s LC-36. Some kind of testing, perhaps?
Blue actually doing something?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:20:53 UTC No. 15877942
>>15877939
another mockup
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:21:16 UTC No. 15877944
>>15877939
> A slightly closer look.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:22:57 UTC No. 15877948
>>15877924
https://twitter.com/torybruno/statu
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:24:14 UTC No. 15877950
>>15877939
dildo for bezos
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:25:22 UTC No. 15877951
>>15877948
abandoned by oldspace pussies
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:29:38 UTC No. 15877961
>>15877952
With budget cuts and an aging station, can NASA learn to love a gap in orbit?
---
https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/
> Just in case you were under any illusions about the age of the International Space Station, Monday marked the 25th anniversary of the launch of the Zarya module. This Russian-built power and propulsion module formed the cornerstone of the space station, and the first residents arrived two years later.
> The problem is that it now appears entirely possible that no private facilities will yet be flying in orbit by 2030, leading to the dreaded "g" word—in NASA parlance, a gap in capabilities.
> NASA has been planning for a transition to "commercial LEO destinations," known as CLDs, for about half a decade. It has development contracts with Axiom Space, Blue Origin, and Voyager Space for three different concepts and is working with other companies, including SpaceX and Vast Space, on different plans. The agency expects to award large "services" contracts to one or more companies in 2026 to support the development of private stations.
> The real question is whether these options will be ready four years later. Space stations are hard. It took NASA and half a dozen other space agencies around the world a decade to plan, build, and launch the first elements of the International Space Station. These companies are expected to do this faster and with far less money.
> "That would be bad, and I don't want a gap," McAlister said. "But if the CLDs are not ready, we might have one. Personally, I don't think that would be the end of the world. It would not be unrecoverable, especially if it's relatively short-term. It might impact some research somewhat, but we could leverage Crew Dragon and Starliner to lessen the impact of a gap."
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:29:40 UTC No. 15877962
>>15877948
He's forgetting that pyrotechnics only worked because the rocket only weighs a few tons at MECO
Saturn V spent an absurd amount of mass on retrorocket separation schemes
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:49:40 UTC No. 15877985
>>15877896
Did the methane react with the oxygen or not?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:51:53 UTC No. 15877988
>>15877653
imagine spending hundreds of millions on a rocket launch and ending up asking some civilian photographer for footage because they can't figure out what happened. Maybe next time they can radio beam live telemetry from the booster.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:54:50 UTC No. 15877994
>>15877961
Has vast had any hardware in space since that one space tug that ran out of control? I know their plan was to launch a few before haven 1
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 21:59:07 UTC No. 15878003
>>15877824
That's power.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:00:37 UTC No. 15878006
>>15877988
extra data never hurts
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:03:53 UTC No. 15878014
>>15877682
The RS-25 had nightmarish hydrogen seals and a giant gold slag-me pin, neither of which are on Raptor.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:08:25 UTC No. 15878027
>>15877896
This looks like it's a 3D image
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:09:04 UTC No. 15878029
>>15877988
>the booster
you're a retard
>Maybe next time they can radio beam live telemetry
you're a retard
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:11:33 UTC No. 15878033
>>15877915
What you're seeing is the severed nosecone emptying its COPVs. Look at the T+ this is after the explosion.
To be fair the faggot who took the video is also not being clear about it.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:14:06 UTC No. 15878038
>>15877924
>Keeps using RL10s from the 60s
>Refuses modernization programs
>Designs a rocket to keep milking the glowniggr national security market
>Ditches RDs because of muh russophobia, boughts no name BOs instead.
>Publicly admits that wants to be bought
Glowspace is so uninspiring.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:20:54 UTC No. 15878052
>>15878033
You're right, seems like they need a bigger bomb
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:21:00 UTC No. 15878054
>>15877961
>The problem is that it now appears entirely possible that no private facilities will yet be flying in orbit by 2030
So... a SpaceX contract to put a Moonship into LEO configured for long duration stay and put it into a parking orbit to which others will dock to? That thing has a crew capacity of basically 25-50 people based on known modeling of its volume and architecting usability.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:21:44 UTC No. 15878056
>>15878027
Maybe some turbo-autists can get footage from a different location and make an actual 3d video
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:23:42 UTC No. 15878064
>>15877939
Pressure Fed Astronaut was joking that Blue does all their testing in a cave underground to mess with everybody because even he with his unlimited EDS cant explain why they dont do anything
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:24:10 UTC No. 15878066
>>15878038
The RL10 is essentially perfect for its weight class. Any time Isp matters more than raw thrust or long endurance ZBO just slap some RL10s on your stage and call it a day.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:30:12 UTC No. 15878074
How long until Everyday Astronaut is flying to the moon?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:31:14 UTC No. 15878077
>>15878074
its a flyby nigga
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:31:54 UTC No. 15878078
>>15877295
>He pointed out that it will be the first time a crewed U.S. capsule lands on land, rather than splashing down in the ocean.
Uhm, aren't you forgetting something, sweaty?
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:33:21 UTC No. 15878081
>>15878038
>russophobia
>the factory that makes them doesn't exist anymore
Risk reduction saved them several more years without an engine vs pretending everything was fine
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:42:14 UTC No. 15878113
From my source.
The reason so many of the tiles are falling off is because of the cro magnon ass motherfuckers at integration. If they are having difficulty with a given tile, rather than spending a little time finessing it or getting someone to come and redo the studs, they just grab their rubber mallets and beat the things into place leading to all sorts of extra stress and fracturing.
The froyo flavour of the day is cookies and cream
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:44:46 UTC No. 15878119
>>15878074
7 years.
My prediction - Erryday astronaut will crack and start trying to depress the cabin. The rest of the crew wont be able to stop him and he will eventually kill everyone onboard
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:44:48 UTC No. 15878120
>>15878113
Play Mexican games, win Mexican prizes.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:46:33 UTC No. 15878128
>>15878074
2029
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:46:33 UTC No. 15878129
>>15878113
Sounds realistic. Having final assembly done by80IQ Mexicans is the cheapest option but also the riskiest.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:47:49 UTC No. 15878136
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:50:41 UTC No. 15878144
>>15878113
so you have to make it even more idiot proof, or pay for non-retarded people to do tile installation
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 22:59:35 UTC No. 15878166
>>15878129
optimus-derived solution when
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Nov 2023 23:04:25 UTC No. 15878179
>>15875610
>pic
heh, anyone done a GENTLEMEN edit yet?