🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 07:12:45 UTC No. 15948616
First MB2 Resident Edition
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Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 07:13:54 UTC No. 15948617
Ignore the little watermark there btw I couldnt crop it out without making the image look shitty
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 07:25:59 UTC No. 15948630
>>15948627
the center core looks like the eye of sauron or something, so cool
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 07:40:04 UTC No. 15948645
>>15948627
>>15948623
>fails to launch payload into geo orbit
lol
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 08:00:49 UTC No. 15948666
>>15948627
>>15948623
Wheres the kaboom??
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 08:02:53 UTC No. 15948672
>not new years fireworks (rockets) edition
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 08:04:03 UTC No. 15948675
HAPPY NEW YEAR
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 08:13:03 UTC No. 15948685
real thread here
>>15945720
>>15945720
>>15945720
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 08:15:57 UTC No. 15948689
>>15948685
retard, kill yourself
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 08:17:16 UTC No. 15948691
2024 predictions?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 08:17:28 UTC No. 15948692
>>15948689
sorry i meant this thread
>>15934505
>>15934505
>>15934505
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 08:18:38 UTC No. 15948693
>>15948691
starship explodes twice more then spacex goes bankrupt
(the second one went off course and FTS failed and it blew up half of brownsville)
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 08:24:23 UTC No. 15948700
>>15948691
>12 Starship launches
>4 from Boca Chica
>8 from the cape
>orbital depot construction
>and one(1) starship to Mars (with like 2 tons of cargo) as a giant Fuck You to NASA and JPL
screencap this
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 08:29:23 UTC No. 15948702
fun fact, the city right across from brownsville is called matamoros, or muslim killer
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 08:31:16 UTC No. 15948703
>>15948701
Get rid of all trannies. You can decide what I mean there.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 08:31:56 UTC No. 15948705
>>15948701
>sprinter
that might be legit, but sprinter is always making some bullshit up, so not sure if real or not. either way the cuck force needs its shit slapped so it stops being so pussy.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 08:42:52 UTC No. 15948711
>>15948705
Did you know? You will NEVER be a woman.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 08:47:31 UTC No. 15948715
>>15948702
For me? It's Matajudíos
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 08:54:43 UTC No. 15948725
>>15948705
Nah it's real but I think he was already part of Space Force and just got a promotion. What I want to know is what the all medals are for and if it includes sustaining an axe wound in the battle against the patriarchy.
https://twitter.com/BFram3
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 08:57:54 UTC No. 15948729
>>15948725
>>15948711
>>15948701
you will never be a man
stop obsessing over a tiny fraction of the population
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 08:58:35 UTC No. 15948731
This is a 4chud thread, 4tranners can rope up and fuck off.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 08:59:52 UTC No. 15948734
>>15948729
Kys troon disgusting shit stinking rotted gash wound having freak YOU WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 09:00:53 UTC No. 15948736
>>15948729
im trans btw
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 09:04:36 UTC No. 15948741
>>15948733
Who or where did this nigger steal this from
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 09:06:29 UTC No. 15948744
>>15948733
well, never seen liquid oxygen before. kind of looks like hazy air.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 09:06:56 UTC No. 15948745
>>15948733
its a render
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 09:11:59 UTC No. 15948748
>>15948741
It's a render.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 09:15:48 UTC No. 15948753
>>15948729
>oy vey, stop noticing how we put mentally ill people in positions of power and enacted a zero tolerance policy against "LGBT discrimination" so everyone in the USSF as well as the rest of the military must affirm their delusions or lose their jobs
Ironic that you knee capped the only forces capable of stopping the Muslim world from hanging you up from a tree for being a degenerate subversive faggot. Pottery.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 09:18:47 UTC No. 15948755
so ignoring all of the ass kveching from useful retard hacktivists and fifth column subversives what is objectively the best way to use the power of the atom in interplanetary propulsion. On the assumption you can construct any machine in any (reasonable) size in LEO using cheap reusable transportation for the construction material.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 09:32:52 UTC No. 15948770
>>15948755
>what is objectively the best way to use the power of the atom in interplanetary propulsion
Setting up a beamed power highway so you don't pay out the ass to transport crew and cargo to another planet on retardedly expensive nuclear fission or fusion ships that still take months, even years, to transit in all but the most advanced schemes that we're nowhere close to being able to produce. Most of this can be done just using solar.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 09:40:05 UTC No. 15948772
>>15948755
figure out how to convert energy to matter and just build a rope to the planet of your choosing
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 09:44:03 UTC No. 15948776
>>15948617
don't croop it, shoop it
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 09:50:21 UTC No. 15948781
>>15948755
A gateway that powers necessary energy to push a spacecraft to a destination
And a second gateway that powers necessary energy to slow down the spacecraft at the destination
You'd need to lay the gateway foundation at the destination as well, so the initial journey would be with the usual nuclear/solar/chemical propulsion. I have some idea on using Alcuberie drive system, which is nominally shown as an independent drive, but would require a lot of power being generated from inside the ship. That minituarization might not be necessary with my idea. The gateway will handle the warping and the dewarping of space for the vehicle to ride on/slow down on.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 09:53:04 UTC No. 15948783
>>15948781
And ofcourse precise computers to optimize when the gateway would slowdown the arrivals of the ships would be necessary, so the ships can exit the warped space efficienctly. A failed miscalculation could potentially throw the ships infinitely to the other side of the universe and kill everyone on board however.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 09:53:04 UTC No. 15948784
>>15948692
thank you, been looking for this. Fuck OP for early staging
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 10:04:09 UTC No. 15948788
>>15948772
1) digitize someone's brain (put them in coma), via neuralink or some other shit
2) send that data over to mars via internet
3) load the data back onto a robotic body or a 3D printed human clone body with specific brain patterns
4) wake up as that person on mars
And ofcourse once you want to go back to Earth, you just digitize the robot/clone brain back and merge the new memories back into the original body. The clone brain could be wiped out/destroyed/reset back to original state. Robot data could be reset/erased for privacy reasons.
This could solve ship of theseus issue, atleast for short while.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 10:08:23 UTC No. 15948798
>>15948788
But you wouldn't be in the robot. You require some ship of theseus tech to transition between states. At absolute best, you would just wake up with new memories. It is more likely that wouldn't be the case as the robot entanglement would barely relate to body entanglement.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 10:11:00 UTC No. 15948800
>>15948781
Is that EVE online?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 10:15:27 UTC No. 15948806
>>15948800
Cowboy Bebop
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 10:19:31 UTC No. 15948810
>>15948798
We can do tests here on Earth with neuralink in the future where we can swap our memories, sell our memories, sell our skills (I know kung fu! Woah!), etc We've done memory swaps with rats by sharing memories of one rat with another's maze memory. We can do the test with robot body in the future once neuralink gets good enough to reverse engineer the brain. This hypothetical scenario is still probably 50-100+ years away. So we got plenty of time to perfect the technology
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 10:21:51 UTC No. 15948814
>>15948810
>sell our skills (I know kung fu! Woah!
this part is going to make so many seethe
>i had to spend 4 years at school for these skills!
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 10:46:00 UTC No. 15948839
>>15948781
Stargate-esque gateways aren't possible though.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 10:52:35 UTC No. 15948842
>>15948800
GRIM
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 12:22:42 UTC No. 15948892
>>15948770
that only works until it gets damaged or destroyed, probably by random asteroids or suicide bombers
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 12:27:54 UTC No. 15948895
>>15948892
The (focused) laser is the defense mechanism
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 13:14:11 UTC No. 15948940
>>15948938
I still remember the faggots here earlier in the years saying "waah why don't the Io images look better??? NASA is a fraud"
Just wait a bit you retards.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 13:37:36 UTC No. 15948970
>>15948938
>>15948940
Io looks kinda gross.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 14:17:45 UTC No. 15949008
Robert DeNiro has forsaken this thread.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 15:14:00 UTC No. 15949099
Our girl has welcomed new 2024
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 15:44:16 UTC No. 15949147
>>15949136
>Sirius 13 will feature two strap-on boosters, which will, together with the core stage, feature a combined 27 STAR-1 engines. The vehicle will be capable of delivering 600 kilograms into orbit and is expected to debut in 2026.
So they really think an Electron Heavy for 2026 is a winning business plan?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 15:45:19 UTC No. 15949149
>>15949147
be nice to them, they can't help being european
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 15:50:05 UTC No. 15949157
>>15949147
Europe will have an internal market of some size which might or might not give one or a few european rocket companies time to develop something that eventually competes with Starship
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 15:56:18 UTC No. 15949168
>>15949165
based
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 15:56:25 UTC No. 15949169
>>15949165
he spoke the actual truth
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 17:14:32 UTC No. 15949244
>Artemis II will officially launch this year (my timezone)
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 17:20:40 UTC No. 15949253
>>15949228
Beautiful
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 17:21:56 UTC No. 15949258
>>15949228
we could run an apollo scale moon mission on 2-3 falcon heavies and a falcon 9
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 17:27:44 UTC No. 15949266
>>15949258
I couldn't
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 17:28:06 UTC No. 15949268
>>15949228
You stole this from twitter.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 17:28:37 UTC No. 15949269
>>15949268
yes
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 17:29:01 UTC No. 15949270
>>15949266
I could. I'm built different
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 17:49:10 UTC No. 15949287
>>15948938
damn, I knew Io was a shithole but still
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 17:51:41 UTC No. 15949291
SpaceX pep talk and yearly review next week
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 17:52:13 UTC No. 15949293
>>15949279
Some Chinese company is going to buy it and set up a listening post
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:01:31 UTC No. 15949304
>>15949291
He'll just regurgitate the same talking points as always, so don't get your hopes up.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:04:59 UTC No. 15949306
>>15948938
are those lakes?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:07:10 UTC No. 15949310
>>15949279
>buy it
>trade to to spacex for a free ride on starship?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:10:13 UTC No. 15949313
>>15948940
it wasnt worth the wait.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:12:59 UTC No. 15949315
>>15949165
musk was being kind,leaving the possibility that Vulcan could fly a non-national security payload before 2024.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:14:19 UTC No. 15949317
>>15949258
3 fully expendable heavies and 1 fully expendable 9
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:15:42 UTC No. 15949321
>>15949310
Free?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:19:17 UTC No. 15949324
Eric Weinstein says Musk is misguided. Getting to Mars doesnt help us get interstellar. If he cared he would be funding investigations into new physics. No one isgoing to proxima centauri in a gay ass generation ship
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:29:47 UTC No. 15949335
>>15949324
We can already do that with NPP, Mars settlement will let us work through all the practicalities of in situ space living. Just another academia piss baby giving bad takes in areas that aren't their study.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:30:03 UTC No. 15949336
>>15949324
Damn if the kike grifter said that, then it must be true. Time to close SpaceX.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:31:41 UTC No. 15949339
>>15949324
Eric Weinstein is a grifter, jew and midwit
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:35:38 UTC No. 15949345
>>15949324
>If he cared he would be funding investigations into new physics.
Making the huge baseless assumption that there is some new physics which will significantly impact space travel. By no means a given. And neither is the timescale, it might be something discovered in 100 centuries and then the efforts of one guy in funding physics will be quite irrelevant.
It's like saying you shouldn't invest your money in stocks and should instead play the lottery.
I think what Weinstein really wants is a grant, or an institute. Or maybe just some attention.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:39:05 UTC No. 15949352
>>15949324
who gives a shit if it doesn't help us get interstellar (it does), Mars and other celestial objects in our star system should still be colonized
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:42:39 UTC No. 15949360
>>15949324
This is true but of course /sfg/ cant handle truth
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:43:36 UTC No. 15949363
>>15948645
all successful launches
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:43:40 UTC No. 15949364
Ok but what if i want to reach Mars and establish a permanent settlement in the name of his majesty king Victor Emmanuel II, father of the fatherland?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:44:29 UTC No. 15949365
>>15949360
it isn't
how are you going to colonize another star system if don't know how to exploit the resources there?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:45:30 UTC No. 15949367
>>15949364
go ahead
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:45:36 UTC No. 15949368
>>15949365
You're making up nonsense requirements
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:46:42 UTC No. 15949370
future martian liberals will tear down statues of elon while opening the flood gates to earther rapefugees
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:48:34 UTC No. 15949373
>>15949368
so we just go interstellar for shits and giggles with some magic spaceships but the only populations are going to be on earth? lol
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:48:36 UTC No. 15949375
>>15949370
>buy a sniper rifle
>shoot colony ships as they land
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:49:35 UTC No. 15949377
>>15949370
most likely
mars is going to need to have independent states
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:50:44 UTC No. 15949379
>>15949370
by that point it'll be trivial to white flight your way to the jovian moons
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:51:07 UTC No. 15949380
>>15949373
Just land on a planet and live there, you dont need to deconstruct the solar system retard
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:52:11 UTC No. 15949383
total baiter death
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:57:15 UTC No. 15949394
can i take my cat to mars
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 18:58:10 UTC No. 15949395
>>15949365
forget the resources there. we shouldn't go to space at all until we can solve climate change and world hunger.
how can we expect to take care of another planet if we can't take care of our own? I say nationalize spacex and stop all launches NOW!
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 19:00:25 UTC No. 15949401
Terraform the Sahara to get practice at terraforming Mars.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 19:06:49 UTC No. 15949408
>>15949395
this is a hard pill to swallow for /sfg/
it has to be swallowed though
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 19:21:45 UTC No. 15949424
>>15949324
Who, that pedo?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 19:23:10 UTC No. 15949427
>>15949424
why are you making baseless claims, what do you fear so much?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 19:27:22 UTC No. 15949429
>>15949134
how's this guy writing essays about spacex every week? imagine having free time like that.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 20:10:02 UTC No. 15949465
>>15949134
4 months until the next falcon heavy launch? only 3 heavy launches for the year?
SpaceX is charging too much, or there's not enough demand for heavy lift.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 20:14:26 UTC No. 15949470
>>15949465
I don't think falcon heavy is needed for much else than direct GEO injection and interplanetary missions
pretty much everything else can be done with Falcon 9
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 20:15:08 UTC No. 15949471
>>15949465
the latter
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 20:19:09 UTC No. 15949476
>>15948701
in fairness this shit has penetrated every other service.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 20:32:51 UTC No. 15949490
god new year rockets are so fucking boring
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 20:33:23 UTC No. 15949491
>>15949490
you launch one then.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 20:45:00 UTC No. 15949510
>>15949465
There's not many private customers that would need FH
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 20:46:18 UTC No. 15949511
>>15949465
There is NO demand for heavy lift.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 20:53:15 UTC No. 15949516
>>15949491
bang bang wahuu
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 20:58:04 UTC No. 15949522
>>15949490
i will tonight. fireworks are srbs
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 21:03:11 UTC No. 15949530
>>15949324
>building a multiplanetary (plus tubefags) civilization that has much better odds of surviving for another million years won't help us go interstellar
80 IQ take
get gassed
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 21:03:53 UTC No. 15949531
>>15949516
Back to >>>/v/
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 21:04:30 UTC No. 15949534
>>15949395
good point! we need a final solution here on Earth first
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 21:06:22 UTC No. 15949536
https://twitter.com/NASA_SLS/status
NASA posted their own cringe video
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 21:12:36 UTC No. 15949542
>>15949536
thats pretty cool
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 21:23:45 UTC No. 15949553
>>15949324
SpaceX will end up paving the way for new physics anyway because Starship will allow for more advanced space telescope technologies.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 21:26:49 UTC No. 15949558
>>15948776
>>15948616
What's wrong with crediting the photographer? Are you a communist?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 21:30:37 UTC No. 15949569
>>15949541
he just keeps winning
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 22:01:56 UTC No. 15949620
>>15949579
At the current rate of development - and assuming the fed gets (and stays) the fuck out of their way - SpaceX will miss these goals by 2 transfer windows. That's really not bad at all comparing to other Elon time estimates.
In a perfect world with no FAA (tautology) they would probably only be late by 1 window
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 22:09:36 UTC No. 15949636
>>15949620
I think they should be able to send much more than 2 ships for the first transfer window at this point
FAA has slowed down ship development, but they have kept building infrastructure in the mean time
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 22:11:12 UTC No. 15949639
>>15949579
This was from 2017, right? Turns out the best way to get to Mars was to have a plan that was willing to say "We are going in five years" instead of defaulting to the usual "We are going in twenty years."
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 22:18:11 UTC No. 15949655
>>15949639
September 27th 2016 at the 67th IAC
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 22:18:29 UTC No. 15949657
>>15949638
>96 of america's 101 successful launches were falcon
why are non spacex american launch providers so bad? china and russia both run laps around them.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 22:18:40 UTC No. 15949658
>>15949541
>https://www.axios.com/2023/12/30/e
common Musk Ws, and they are seething
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 22:23:02 UTC No. 15949668
>>15949541
>one man revolutionized several stagnant industries
>but the problem is now he says mean things online
should have revolutionized your own industries. everyone loves tory bruno's online antics. maybe if he invented reusable rockets and bought out twitter you could have been happy
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 22:27:01 UTC No. 15949676
>>15949657
ULA decided that it wasn't worth it to compete for anything other than government contracts, then lost half of those contracts to SpaceX and delayed the rest because Vulcan is running late. Northrop has delivered on everything they were contracted to do, but had the bad luck to try bringing the Antares to market when the Falcon 9 was getting started. Competing against an operational Falcon 9 is a lot harder than getting started in the launch business circa 2010.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 22:27:31 UTC No. 15949677
>>15949668
but he is in a sense revolutionizing the old mass media too with citizen journalism, people getting paid directly through ad-sharing
not really entirely new as substack etc exist, but X is making some news sites kind of completely obsolete because you can read what is happening directly from the sources instead of getting it fed to you in some propagandistic way through a mass media channel
in the very least X is a threat to them
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 22:34:04 UTC No. 15949688
>>15949677
People said the same thing about Twitter in 2012, literally decade old talking point, and still as irrelevant as ever
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 22:40:59 UTC No. 15949705
>>15949688
people didn't get paid through revenue share in 2012 on twitter
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 22:51:10 UTC No. 15949725
>>15949677
X wont be a threat to shit so long as the search function is unusable.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 22:53:32 UTC No. 15949730
>>15949705
Getting paid from twitter actually made twitter worse, now you have shitloads of spam with blue checkmarks that appear on top.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 22:56:12 UTC No. 15949737
>>15949705
Lmfao no one is paying the bills with fucking twitter
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 23:01:21 UTC No. 15949749
>>15949737
not yet perhaps, but a few people are getting a lot of money and as things stabilize with advertisers, the revenue streams should stabilize too
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 23:05:49 UTC No. 15949754
>>15949324
Physics is consistently doing its damndest to deny access to enabling technologies for interstellar flight. Going interplanetary, if anything, will be a forcing function to try and create options. Only waiting for something better ensures you get nothing.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 23:06:13 UTC No. 15949756
>15949749
>as things stabilize with advertisers
noone tell him.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 23:17:02 UTC No. 15949769
>>15949688
But it was taken over by the establishment elites and used as a tool for propaganda by the establishment media.
Now it rests outside their control, and is a real threat.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 23:26:50 UTC No. 15949786
>>15949756
twitter/X is going to be yet again another thing you are wrong about with respect to Musk
he is going to make it worth 10x what it was when he bought it
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 23:27:54 UTC No. 15949788
Musk keeps winning, trannies keep losing
the natural order of things
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 23:30:04 UTC No. 15949791
>>15949579
Two ships to 2024, only 2 years behind schedule, screencap this
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 23:36:38 UTC No. 15949801
>>15949791
how many refillings would a cargo ship to mars need? how many launches in total?
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 23:38:40 UTC No. 15949807
post sfg new years resolutions
>see a space launch from florida
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 23:39:22 UTC No. 15949809
>>15949801
1 refilling, they're gonna send it empty because they can
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 23:40:55 UTC No. 15949811
>>15949807
Launch more model rockets, build more of them from scratch instead of from kits.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 23:40:59 UTC No. 15949812
>>15949807
see a starship booster catch
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 23:41:59 UTC No. 15949813
>>15949769
oh get a grip, its shocking how quickly you lot have gone from apolitical to poltards as soon as your autistic mascot picked up the flag.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 23:43:56 UTC No. 15949816
>>15948701
Trump will sort this all out day one
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 23:44:32 UTC No. 15949820
>>15949813
-t reddit trannies
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 23:44:37 UTC No. 15949821
>>15949816
Only if he sweeps into office with military backing, which would be pretty funny ngl.
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 23:46:43 UTC No. 15949823
>>15949813
you are so far up your ass that you think pointing about facts is political
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 23:47:46 UTC No. 15949826
>>15949821
how many in the military actually support this? I doubt its very many, but if they speak out they get fired and shunned
Anonymous at Sun, 31 Dec 2023 23:59:32 UTC No. 15949840
>>15949310
>>15949293
musk refuses to buy the land from that guy because he's a convicted child molester and should be swinging from the end of a rope, not being given a million dollars
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 00:05:10 UTC No. 15949848
>>15949807
Buy an 8" Dobson Reflector so I can do backyard astrophotography.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 00:05:37 UTC No. 15949849
>>15949840
source? that would kind of make sense though
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 00:11:54 UTC No. 15949859
>>15949279
Wonder what the law in Texas says about access easements for encircled property.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 00:12:45 UTC No. 15949862
>>15949851
In spaceflight thats a no brainer.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 00:13:43 UTC No. 15949864
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 00:16:41 UTC No. 15949868
> Billionaire crewed Moon ship
> Propelled by multiple rockets of "Powder X"
> Has thermal shielding
> Suspiciously similar in shape and size
> The metal cone slides sideways exposing a big window
There is no way Musk has not seen this 1958 movie.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 00:17:49 UTC No. 15949870
>>15949864
Ignore this guy
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 00:18:01 UTC No. 15949871
>>15949859
https://agrilife.org/texasaglaw/201
tl;dr: "it depends"
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 00:18:10 UTC No. 15949872
>>15949868
Billionaires should stop trying to make scifi reality. Technological advancements are a threat to (((our democracy)))
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 00:18:29 UTC No. 15949873
https://twitter.com/johncoogan/stat
a lot of aerospace companies in the town, SpaceX had their first headquarter in el segundo and now there are a bunch of hard tech startups there
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 00:19:59 UTC No. 15949875
>>15949873
hard tech in this case means physical technology startups contrary to the usual meaning of "tech companies" that are software
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 00:24:25 UTC No. 15949879
>>15949870
Seething tranny
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 00:32:51 UTC No. 15949889
How has New Years Eve been for /sfg/? Ive been wrenching on my car for a week now and still got more to do so its pretty shitty but atleast my car is gonna be nicer now, really hoping another Starship static fire happens before I go back to college.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 00:37:15 UTC No. 15949892
>>15949889
I don't think they need to do static fires anymore, just the last preparations for IFT-3
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 00:41:56 UTC No. 15949900
https://twitter.com/SegerYu/status/
China's able to build their commercial launch site without any issues due to a government that supports their endeavor. Meanwhile SpaceX is forced into legal bureaucracy when they want to splash a bit of water next to a fucking swampland near the ocean.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 00:42:42 UTC No. 15949901
>>15949900
yeah its absurd
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 00:43:14 UTC No. 15949902
>>15949889
Should have bought a tesla desu
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 00:43:55 UTC No. 15949904
>>15949900
Fucking love China
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 00:47:07 UTC No. 15949907
>>15949900
>"commercial"
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 00:47:37 UTC No. 15949908
>>15949900
China's "commercial" launch site in Hainan was built by the government just as all the pads used by commercial companies in the United States were before Boca Chica.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:02:30 UTC No. 15949922
>>15949905
Holy shit, I knew it was the size of saturn 5, but seeing it illustrated just pointed out how important it really is compared to all those other rockets.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:02:41 UTC No. 15949923
>>15949905
lol why is SLS there or falcon heavy, falcon 9 is more important than heavy
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:07:31 UTC No. 15949929
>>15949905
I've always wondered, would it be possible to use Falcon Heavy side boosters as replacements for the SRBs nowadays if shuttle was still flying? Would be quite kino.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:09:15 UTC No. 15949932
>>15948755
Project Orion is the way. Use eventual weekly starship flights to put all the material in orbit and start mass producing several thousand nukes in parallel. Easier and more cost effective than any scifi meme scheme and also cheaper, in the near term, than mining asteroids or some shit.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:11:13 UTC No. 15949935
>>15948755
awesome art. Imagine what could have been.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:11:32 UTC No. 15949936
>>15949929
probably not, F9 only has about half the thrust of each SRB
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:12:36 UTC No. 15949937
>>15949929
falcon doesn't have the thrust for it
could probably do an energia-style 4-booster thing with them though
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:19:17 UTC No. 15949942
>>15949937
Someone sketched out a SLS that used four Falcon boosters in place of the RSRM-5s. Using that layout for the shuttle would probably give you a reasonable performance boost.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:20:04 UTC No. 15949943
hey /sfg/ my memory is ass, does spacex static fire the full ss/sh stack or just the individual components?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:29:56 UTC No. 15949953
>>15949905
Good chart, but I believe some rockets would be more deserving of a spot in there than others. Falcon Heavy and SLS are cool, but not particularly significant. IMO these rockets should be added:
>Falcon 9
>Ariane 5
>Delta II
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:36:29 UTC No. 15949958
>>15949953
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H10
First launch of the year in T-2:00:00. Stream goes live in 90 minutes
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:39:36 UTC No. 15949959
>>15949902
Cant wrench for shit on that and I'm not paying Tesla $20k to change a fucking brake rotor every year. Id rather work on shit myself, not that hard anyways. 80 IQ lobotomites can wrench on cars just fine so why cant I.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:41:09 UTC No. 15949960
>>15949905
The shuttle was so pathetic. I hate that fucking thing so much I wouldve been born on Mars had they fucking continued with Saturns.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:48:17 UTC No. 15949970
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:50:30 UTC No. 15949971
>>15949970
>NORMAL
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:51:06 UTC No. 15949974
>>15949971
NARMAL
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:52:16 UTC No. 15949977
>>15949905
I often forget how small Baseduz is.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:52:29 UTC No. 15949978
>>15949943
just the components. the only big tests they've done with full stacks have been wdr.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 01:58:02 UTC No. 15949981
>>15949977
Tiny, mostly from the 1950s, but still single-handedly carrying the Russia space program to this very day.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 02:07:34 UTC No. 15949987
>>15949937
Falcon boosters have about fifty tons less fuel and about a quarter the dry mass. Having to move a stack that's that weighs that much less more than makes up for the lower overall thrust.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 02:11:11 UTC No. 15949989
>>15949959
>$20k
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 02:11:44 UTC No. 15949992
I had a dream a couple nights ago about an explosion traveling up the fuel pipe toward Superheavy and then blasting off most of the top of it once it reached it like someone being executed by a shotgun.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 02:28:55 UTC No. 15949998
>>15949992
Thats a nightmare, jude.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 02:40:07 UTC No. 15950005
>>15949929
ok so I tried to do the math based on numbers I found on wikipedia
shuttle had a launch weight of 4.48 million pounds, of which ~2.6 million was srbs. and a thrust at liftoff of 6.48 million pounds. of that 2.65 million came from each srb and 1.18 million came from the rs25s. this gives it a twr of 1.45
swap the boosters for falcon 9 first stages which each weigh 0.929 million pounds and the whole thing now weighs 3.738 million pounds.
each falcon 9 contributes 1.71 million pounds of thrust so the total thrust is now 4.6 million pounds
and the vehicle has a twr of 1.23
not too shabby, better than saturn 5. this ignores structural overheads and the fact you'd have to re-angle the rs25s for the new center of mass. I'm not going to figure out if it has the deltaV to get to orbit but at least it gets off the pad
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 02:47:18 UTC No. 15950009
>>15949324
That stuff, and I quote, "Is locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God for it to ever get out and aid humanity"
Musk is doing what he can with what isn't kept secret.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 02:49:32 UTC No. 15950011
>>15950009
Who are you quoting.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 02:50:03 UTC No. 15950012
Well, Astra survived until the end of the year. And their stock price has been going up the last couple days? What gives?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 02:51:01 UTC No. 15950014
>>15950011
Ben Rich
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 02:51:09 UTC No. 15950015
>>15950012
They pivoted away from sucking off niggers and launching horrible rockets.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 02:57:20 UTC No. 15950017
>>15950012
people closing their short positions at the end of the year perhaps
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 03:07:57 UTC No. 15950026
>>15950019
>2050 has come and gone and hack fraud elon musk only put 980,000 people on mars
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 03:11:40 UTC No. 15950030
>>15949958
Stream's up. T-28:00
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 03:21:19 UTC No. 15950037
Happy New Year friends!
Here's hoping for another exciting year of spaceflight and launches with you all and Clear!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leo
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 03:26:33 UTC No. 15950043
>AUTOMATIC LAUNCH SEQUENCE INSTANTIATED FOR PSLV C-58
T-14:00
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 03:27:34 UTC No. 15950045
>>15949989
I want to support Elon, and all that, but I hate the dumbed down, always online Applefag philosophy he's applied to the cars.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 03:33:36 UTC No. 15950060
>>15949165
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/sta
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 03:37:07 UTC No. 15950064
>>15950060
port tory
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 03:38:54 UTC No. 15950066
>>15950060
poor tory
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 03:40:22 UTC No. 15950069
LIFTAFF NARMAL!
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 03:45:52 UTC No. 15950076
I wish you all a narmal new year kpgbros
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 03:49:42 UTC No. 15950084
>>15950066
No tears, only dreams now. :'(
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 04:08:29 UTC No. 15950103
>>15949998
It wasn't a nightmare because I knew it wasn't real. The fuel tube was sticking out of the side like an airplane being fueled up.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 04:14:22 UTC No. 15950113
>>15950094
Well, that's a successful mission. Here's to four more of them this year.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 04:46:09 UTC No. 15950140
https://twitter.com/isro/status/174
India starts off New Year with a successful launch
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 04:49:17 UTC No. 15950142
2024 will be the year of _______
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 04:55:10 UTC No. 15950143
>>15950142
Blacks
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 05:01:18 UTC No. 15950146
Happy new years fags, heres to monthly Starship launches.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 05:17:04 UTC No. 15950155
>>15950142
Quantised Inertia
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 05:18:36 UTC No. 15950156
>>15950142
Our Lord Elon Musk
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 05:38:25 UTC No. 15950167
>>15950045
>always online
You know you have to press the "start update" button to update the car right? It doesn't auto-update, and if the app goes offline, you just use the keycard or key fob, like the one you'd give to valet
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 06:29:57 UTC No. 15950192
>>15949324
I don't care what some gay jew says
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 06:59:46 UTC No. 15950200
Gay jews are funny doe
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 07:08:27 UTC No. 15950205
>>15950142
India
JAI HIND
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 07:16:17 UTC No. 15950206
space force to focus on building maneuverable and refuelable satellites for combat ops, making satellites more like spacecraft and less like computers in the sky
>The other future mission area on the lips of Space Force brass over the past year is dynamic space operations — that is, operations requiring highly mobile spacecraft such as closely following adversary satellites to watch out for threatening behavior, jinking out of the path of anti-satellite weapons or potentially even chasing down adversary birds to disable them with jamming or lasing.
>Such missions would require improved satellite maneuvering, as methods for extending their lifetimes on-orbit such as in-space refueling. Those same sorts of operations and technologies would be needed even more if the Space Force begins to orbit systems near the Moon to keep an eye on China’s activities there.
>The service’s first request for industry input in this arena focuses on “Combat Space Mobility,” seeking “to identify potential capabilities/technologies/services,
https://breakingdefense.com/2023/12
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 07:47:13 UTC No. 15950232
>>15949791
1 empty ship in 2024 to test Mars EDL, 2 cargo ships in 2026, 4 cargo ships in 2028, first human landing in 2031. screencap this.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:15:35 UTC No. 15950315
>Split threads
How art thou fallen from grace, /sfg/ my beloved.
Anyhow a late happy new year's greetings, and christmas too. My interests have slowly drifted away from spaceflight so I really haven't lurked or even posted here in three months or so. From what I've seen, starship seems to be progressing at the usual pace, rocketlab is still around and all that.
Hoping for similar milestones for 2024 as with this year. Hopefully we'll have an orbital starship when the year wraps up again.
-Finnanon
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:21:14 UTC No. 15950321
>>15950315
Starship's pace is getting closer to what it was during the era of the prototype test campaigns. IFT-3's booster and ship are in pre-launch processing and have been static fired.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:25:31 UTC No. 15950324
>>15950321
I saw the satellite deployment system being tested in a webm. Any info on whether they'll test it on the OFT?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:33:44 UTC No. 15950332
>>15950324
No word on that yet, but they tested a single engine burn on the ship. We're gonna have to wait and see what they have in mind.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 09:59:54 UTC No. 15950360
Would you fat lard ass Yurotards shut up? AmeriGODS are sleeping and we dont need to hear you faggots and your greasy fingers typing up a storm about Arianespace
Barkun at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 10:40:40 UTC No. 15950393
This board needs CLEANING
This thread should be a bannable offense, it's stupid.
You can't populate Mars with a few seeds and some ginger, you're doing it wrong.
As you're clearly trolling you should be banned.
Well, someones gotta stand up against it. If the jannie ain't gonna clean it... It falls to one of the posters.
GET OUT
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 10:51:09 UTC No. 15950410
>>15950315
How's the army treating you?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 10:53:24 UTC No. 15950412
my new year revolution is to fuck clear usui ria chan in the anal and you take that to the BANK
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 11:07:16 UTC No. 15950424
>>15950412
And take pictures of her face so we can put this whole "clear(ly a man)" thing to rest.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 11:11:36 UTC No. 15950426
>>15950410
Oh I got out a while ago, september 13th. It was fun while it lasted. Didn’t think I’d miss it as much as I did
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 11:12:29 UTC No. 15950428
>>15950424
This is much easier to achieve than you'd think. Clear has been to multiple JAXA press briefings in person, and she very likely will be present for the next H3 launch presser. All we need is anon on location in Minamitane
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 11:19:24 UTC No. 15950435
>>15950412
Just make sure balls don't touch
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 11:39:06 UTC No. 15950447
>>15950005
I wonder if the enhanced delta v of falcon is offset by the gravity losses. Either way, if it could get to orbit then it would basically solve shuttle safety problems since both loss of vehicle incidents were caused by SRBs
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 11:44:26 UTC No. 15950451
>>15950449
i love how spaceflight can bring enemies together like this for a moment of peace
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 11:53:51 UTC No. 15950455
>>15950005
>I'm not going to figure out if it has the deltaV to get to orbit
Assuming reuse, does anyone know the propellant margins they have on the first stage?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 12:01:15 UTC No. 15950458
>>15950455
about 1/3rd according to thunderf00t
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 12:13:23 UTC No. 15950467
>>15950005
You'd need more boosters. The Shuttle depended on those SRBs to give it the initial altitude and horizontal kick they needed to get the orbiter to orbital velocity with the contents of the external tank. If the vehicle doesn't have comparable altitude and velocity to the SRBs at BECO, it's not getting to orbit.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 12:42:02 UTC No. 15950486
>>15950467
but the falcon has a longer burn duration so who knows what the release velocity will be
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 12:43:41 UTC No. 15950488
>>15950005
>the whole thing now weighs 3.738 million pounds.
This seems wrong. The Falcons are heavier than the SRBs by your numbers, yet the whole thing becomes lighter?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 14:12:31 UTC No. 15950550
se acabo
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 14:30:47 UTC No. 15950560
Is there any theoretical reason to park Earth manufactured SRBs into orbit? Could they be sized to provide the bulk of boost needed to get to other orbits or transits? Or would the energy required to get them up there in the first place negate any advantage?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 14:31:51 UTC No. 15950561
>>15950449
I call him Mr. Energy these days, not Tory
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 14:33:04 UTC No. 15950562
1 week to Vulcan
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 14:38:34 UTC No. 15950565
>>15950562
It'll scrub.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 14:50:16 UTC No. 15950573
>>15950565
Yeah probably
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 14:52:13 UTC No. 15950578
>>15950113
keked bastard
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 14:54:07 UTC No. 15950581
>>15950554
It didn't
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 15:00:25 UTC No. 15950588
>>15950060
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 15:02:45 UTC No. 15950590
https://twitter.com/TeslaPatriot/st
Mars will be terraformed
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 15:05:18 UTC No. 15950594
>>15950587
>born too late to blow up pirate ships
Just join the navy
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 15:15:15 UTC No. 15950605
>>15950587
We will see privatized spaceships in our lifetime
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 15:16:36 UTC No. 15950607
>>15950605
All those turtles dead...
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 15:38:52 UTC No. 15950631
>>15950578
I know it's nothing next to SpaceX casually deciding to top their last record breaking year by an additional 50%, but if the PSLV clears all the payloads it has penciled in for this year it'll tie it's second best year ever. Between GSLV-2, LVM3, and SSLV we might get ten more ISRO streams this year and I think that'd be pretty neat.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 15:58:57 UTC No. 15950647
>>15950607
gone
like tears, in the rain
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 16:08:25 UTC No. 15950657
so uh
when tape outgassing drive test?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 16:36:14 UTC No. 15950689
>>15950657
It would have already shit out all the gas by now you fucking gorilla ape
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 16:39:42 UTC No. 15950692
>>15950689
not if the tape was in a sealed vessel
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 16:41:03 UTC No. 15950694
>>15950488
>The Falcons are heavier than the SRBs by your numbers
wut?
>2.65 million came from each srb and 1.18 million came from the rs25s. this gives it a twr of 1.45
>swap the boosters for falcon 9 first stages which each weigh 0.929 million pounds and the whole thing now weighs 3.738 million pounds.
>2.65m lbs from each SRB vs 0.93m lbs from each FH booster
One SRB was a full 2.8x heavier than one FH booster, idk why you think he said FH boosters were heavier
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 16:57:52 UTC No. 15950715
>>15950705
are you sure that isn't just a potato?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 16:59:11 UTC No. 15950719
>>15950705
Nice potato
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 17:08:53 UTC No. 15950735
>>15949306
Lava lakes, maybe
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 17:13:18 UTC No. 15950742
>>15950705
kinda hilarious how people beelive this shit is real
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 17:15:26 UTC No. 15950747
>>15950321
The fact that they were able to get all 33 engines to ignite and continue firing first try for B10 (ontop of all engines on booster firing during last flight) makes me think that they've pretty much solved Raptor reliability issues, which is pretty big because that was one of the largest potential roadblocks left in the starship program.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 17:35:00 UTC No. 15950757
>>15950694
No you’re comparing the thrust of the srbs to the weight of the falcons. The whole srb assembly with both weighs 2,600,000 pounds. Two falcon 9s weighs 1,860,000 pounds
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 18:00:38 UTC No. 15950783
>>15950412
Clear(ly a man)
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 18:00:40 UTC No. 15950785
>>15950757
So Falcon 9 boosters are still lighter and I'm right.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 18:01:39 UTC No. 15950788
>>15950705
I miss Arrokoth :(
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 18:12:19 UTC No. 15950808
>>15950561
so he's the anti-Jeb?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 18:19:32 UTC No. 15950816
>>15948616
What am I in for
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 18:29:51 UTC No. 15950827
>>15950816
Kek
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 18:45:44 UTC No. 15950844
>>15950827
>military personnel had seen worse
Well no shit. Anyone who's ever been enlisted or done mandatory military service can tell you that.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 19:08:44 UTC No. 15950876
>>15950844
When's OFT3?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 19:14:09 UTC No. 15950883
>>15950876
Don't ask me. I don't work for SpaceX, but I have served mandatory military service and some drunk streaking is entry level shit.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 19:15:20 UTC No. 15950888
>>15950827
lmao
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 19:18:46 UTC No. 15950889
>>15950876
musk says they are skipping OFT3 and jumpimg straight to OFT4 since the FAA delays mean the hardware is advancing too fast
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 19:19:02 UTC No. 15950890
>>15950844
during the last weeks of conscription training before being discharged some dude ran into the woods with a rifle and some rounds he had smuggled from the range (not very difficult, especially at that point when everyone is mostly waiting to go home)
we had to stay in for a day or two while he was being searched, but apparently he had killed himself after a while
and I think this tends to happen every now and then and the stuff people get subjected to these days is much milder than a few decades ago
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 19:22:21 UTC No. 15950894
Why doesnt Impulse space make a rotating detonation engine
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 19:22:22 UTC No. 15950895
>>15950844
Anyone who pissed their CO off badly enough to get assigned to the Marshall Islands has done significantly worse more than once.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 19:27:20 UTC No. 15950898
raptor 4 an aerospike
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 19:43:09 UTC No. 15950925
Is the whole catching system thing for Starship actually going to work?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 19:45:02 UTC No. 15950929
>>15950925
They got thrust spread out into more engines than F9, allowing for much finer control, so there's no reason it shouldn't work.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 19:45:54 UTC No. 15950932
>>15950925
It should work for booster.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 20:01:37 UTC No. 15950961
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 20:10:25 UTC No. 15950968
>>15950925
>>15950929
>>15950932
we've never seen the drawworks or hydraulics on the arms move anywhere near as fast as they'll need to for a midair catch. every destack and restack takes several minutes, and the arm retract before launch takes almost 30 seconds as well. my bet is the second tower being built at starbase in texas will make the first catch attempt, and the current mechazilla is a pathfinder that will be retrofitted with the same systems from tower 2 after it's proven successful. Raptor reliability schizos and tile FUD doomers are retarded because those are easily fixed issues (dial back performance and tiles have already been done before, respectively), and among all aerospace companies SpaceX especially is obviously not going to have any problems resolving them. The tower catch on the other hand is unknown territory and one of the most difficult to actually test for because there's not much you can do between basic ass simulations and full sending it with an actual catch attempt. The fact that SpaceX has never done a mockup catch test a la high-altitude starship tests suggests that they're either absurdly (over?)confident or they can't figure out how to feasibly test the system without going full retard and trying to catch IFT-n+1 where N is the successful soft water landing of a booster
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 20:12:36 UTC No. 15950973
>>15950968
in the latest mars launch video by spacex the chopstick arms don't move at all when the booster lands on them
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 20:13:16 UTC No. 15950974
>>15950968
It's never gonna snag it out of the air hoverslam style, but with thrust spread out among that many engines, it should be possible for the booster to hover mid air, allowing for a gentle landing.
Or at least that's the theory behind the thing. They need to get it staging and soft landing in the ocean without blowing up first.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 20:13:49 UTC No. 15950977
>>15950968
You shouldn't forget that starship booster should be able to hoover for a while unlike f9, also chopsticks don't need to move much if they are accurate.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 20:14:19 UTC No. 15950978
>>15950816
IIRC it's a mixed bag. The first two sections are dry, but the Astra section is everything you might imagine and the Polyakov section is interesting.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 20:17:46 UTC No. 15950980
>>15950889
Wouldn't it be the third one either way
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 20:18:55 UTC No. 15950982
>>15950968
The chopsticks do not need to move to perform a catch.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 20:19:15 UTC No. 15950983
>>15950898
raptor 5 orion drive
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 20:34:08 UTC No. 15950997
>>15950983
raptor six quantum tricks
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 20:52:25 UTC No. 15951017
>>15951012
No clue
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 20:58:06 UTC No. 15951024
>>15951012
https://spacenews.com/fcc-fines-swa
Back in 2018 Swarm Technologies launched four picosatellites without filing their paperwork with the FCC first.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 21:00:03 UTC No. 15951025
>>15951012
>SpaceX launched direct-to-cell starlinks without filling out eight thousand pages of permits with the FCC and writing the FAA's mandatory two novels about the impact of rocket launches on the native moquahawakanackwua peoples tribe of south texas (established 2017)
maybe it was about Varda's capsule that went up without getting a reentry permit? honestly I have no idea
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 21:03:48 UTC No. 15951034
>>15951024
didn't spacex acquire swarm? (answer: they did)
so it seems to have worked for them
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swarm
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 21:09:23 UTC No. 15951044
>>15951034
If Swarm's picosats are all in the 400g range, you'd think SpaceX could just fold their IoT tech onto the next generation of Starlinks. It looks like they're operating at similar altitudes.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 21:10:46 UTC No. 15951049
>>15951044
maybe they did
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 21:15:28 UTC No. 15951059
>>15951046
Planets have better opportunities for long term growth, but orbitals have a lower initial buy-in and have the advantage of being a lot closer to Earth, which is the only market that is going to matter for a long time.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 21:21:23 UTC No. 15951069
>>15951059
Orbitals have higher initial buy-in than an equivalent Moon or Mars settlement. They only have lower buy-in than ENTIRE planets, if you insist on comparing.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 21:22:29 UTC No. 15951071
Could 'shuttles' ever be possible?
What will transport to LEO look like 100 years from now?
I feel like VTVL vehicles will be the way, possibly SSTO possibly not.
Horizontal flight like a aeroplane just doesn't make sense for an orbital vehicle, only possibly for Re-entry and cross range; orbital rockets and all of the reaction mass they need are just too damn heavy to be lifted with wings.
If they will be SSTO and 'shuttle' like they will likely need much better propulsion systems, nuclear or possibly fusion thermal.
The proposed project timber wind NTR might make for a good SSTO if you can deal with the radiation somehow.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 21:29:22 UTC No. 15951084
>>15950560
SRBs are typically very heavy for the impulse they produce, they aren't necessarily something you want to lug all the way to orbit if you can help it.
The only reason I could see for it is needing a super stable propellant that doesn't need to be settled.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 21:30:32 UTC No. 15951087
>>15951071
>Could 'shuttles' ever be possible?
Possible? Who cares. Economically favorable? No, not from Earth.
>What will transport to LEO look like 100 years from now?
Probably reusable TSTO rockets unless things have accelerated so much by then that orbital rings make sense to figure out and build (maybe aren't possible but w/e)
Timberwind engines couldn't actually allow for an SSTO, they were never built and the insane performance stats come from someone extrapolating the expected small version performance to larger models incorrectly.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 21:31:33 UTC No. 15951090
>>15950560
No, it's better in every way to just launch liquid propellants.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 21:33:37 UTC No. 15951095
>>15951059
building a mars colony is as much about creating a forcing function for making colonizing space cheaper, propulsion methods cheaper, rockets better and so on as it is about actually colonizing mars itself
building big space stations around the earth or even building a moon space is not going to be nearly as much of a forcing function as a wholly separate mars colony and later independent civilization is going to be
only takes a few days to get to the moon and less than a day to get to a space station
and building O'neill cylinders is just not realistic before extensive ISRU in space is done
so in fact, building a colony on mars will make it easier to build O'neill cylinders as well, doing O'neill cylinders right away without bootstrapping is probably close to impossible
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 21:35:17 UTC No. 15951098
>>15951071
You want hybrid jet engineering which can change to a ram jet configuration onde the atmosphere gets too this, but I imagine the finished veichle will look more like a supersponic jet. Hybrid jets is already a technology being worked on which is why I mention it, but in a hundred years who knows. Maybe romtemperature superconductors and a hyper optimization of Fusion reactions will yield plasma thrusters with infinitly improved specific impulse and anything can be lifted into space
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 21:36:29 UTC No. 15951101
>>15951098
Fuck phoneposting is a mess, how do I delete a post?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 21:51:27 UTC No. 15951118
>>15951101
im trans btw
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 21:57:10 UTC No. 15951126
>>15951098
There have been some studies on scramjets, the fundamental problem is of course the rocket equation.
Even if you can get up to Mach 10 breathing air, you are still only a third of the way to orbit.
You still have another 6k deltaV to go.
So the question becomes not; 'how do I build a Mach 10 scramjet', but rather 'how do I build a Mach 10 scramjet that can carry a falcon 9 second stage'.
Bear In mind that the falcon 9 second stage weighs about as much as 2 Boeing 737s.
Turning it into an SSTO is even harder, it's a bit like imagining the Pegasus rocket in pic related taking the Lockheed TriStar it's attached to up to orbit with it.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 22:08:08 UTC No. 15951140
>>15950757
It's fine, I'm retarded. I read the SRBs as weighing 1.6 million combined
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 22:11:22 UTC No. 15951145
>>15951087
I suppose TSTO is still kind of a no brainer, the only real downsides are re-integration.
What really gets me is how few people seem to have thought of reusable TSTO configurations.
You have the side by side shuttle configurations, but that's it really.
Delta clipper for example would have been so much more feasible if they had done it as two stages, IDK why they didn't think of that.
You could have used separate deep throttling landing engines for example, and not have to design special deep throttle booster engines.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 22:13:22 UTC No. 15951148
>>15951145
SSTO was a meme technology 'holy grail' so people pursued it for no reason to grift off NASA gibmedats.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 22:18:32 UTC No. 15951157
>>15951148
the actual "holy grail" that is trying to be achieved with SSTO spaceplanes is cheap mass to orbit and supposedly they would do that by being fully and rapidly reusable
but what if you can actually do the fully and rapidly reusable thing with a system with multiple parts (lets say 2 instead of 1), ignore the spaceplane thing because it doesn't actually matter and tadaa, Starship
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 22:18:48 UTC No. 15951158
>>15951012
>>15951024
Yes and I think it's mentioned later on
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 22:19:39 UTC No. 15951161
Spaceplanes seem more like a solution looking for a problem than anything else
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 22:24:27 UTC No. 15951172
>>15951145
They were too focused on doing the Shuttle "right." Also, Delta Clipper was a late-era McDonnell Douglas product and the company higher-ups had a lot more pressing worries than paying attention to a groundbreaking new project.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 22:47:45 UTC No. 15951208
my new years resolution is to quit browsing 4chan except for /sfg/ <3
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 22:55:17 UTC No. 15951215
>>15951210
Rocket Propulsion Elements
Ignition
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 22:58:01 UTC No. 15951218
>>15951210
across the airless wilds!
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 23:08:50 UTC No. 15951233
https://twitter.com/rocketlab/statu
Rocket Lab posted an image of Archimedes. I think they're more than three years away from Neutron's first flight. I'd be surprised if they even got as far as firing the power head before the year's over.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 23:50:15 UTC No. 15951292
>>15950974
The staging issue was probably overrotation causing fluid hammer and destroying the internal plumbing of the booster, so I imagine that is a relatively simple fix. We'll see if any other issues show up during booster reentry, but I doubt they will, first stage reentry is much more simple then second.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jan 2024 23:58:03 UTC No. 15951298
>>15951157
correct, but NASA wanted an SSTO. cuz they're eggheads.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:00:57 UTC No. 15951303
>>15951233
Why is there a visible gap between the nozze and combustion chamber on the engine on the right, and why does that combustion chamber look blurry/altered?
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:01:18 UTC No. 15951306
>>15951071
Maybe 200-300 years from now.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:02:20 UTC No. 15951308
>>15951303
They edited it in.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:05:16 UTC No. 15951314
Is Starlink bad for you?
https://x.com/jonas_westh/status/17
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:06:33 UTC No. 15951318
>>15951314
>Planet deification
I bet you this guy claims up and down that he's an atheist, too.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:07:20 UTC No. 15951319
>>15951303
1) two explanations: see those lift points at the top? there's a crane it's hanging from, cropped off from the top of the image - OR it's amtigravity QI meme thruster UFO bullshit
2) ITAR, pls understand
>>15951308
it's been blurred, but I don't think they wholesale photoshopped a part into the image that wasn't actually there when the picture was taken. What did you use to generate that, some kind of noise enhancer?
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:10:13 UTC No. 15951328
>>15951314
is this you?
you look like fag
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:11:08 UTC No. 15951330
>>15951319
>it's been blurred, but I don't think they wholesale photoshopped a part into the image that wasn't actually there when the picture was taken. What did you use to generate that, some kind of noise enhancer?
https://fotoforensics.com/
Error Level Analysis
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:12:46 UTC No. 15951337
>>15951319
The image has rough border edge discontinuities consistent with an eraser tool that you don't see with blurred images.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:19:30 UTC No. 15951347
>>15951314
he seems to have that sub-70 IQ retard stare. also who gives a shit about the environment?
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:26:32 UTC No. 15951358
>>15950983
>>15950997
I kek'd, thanks anons
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:27:19 UTC No. 15951360
>>15951347
I know, who cares about the atmosphere. We're going to remove it anyway.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:27:39 UTC No. 15951361
>>15951046
I'm going with the one who has actually gotten stuff into orbit
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:30:49 UTC No. 15951365
>>15950898
more like rotating detonator
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:31:45 UTC No. 15951369
>>15950788
this
only chud hitlerian muskrat national socialists neo nazis call it ultima thule
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:34:37 UTC No. 15951374
>>15950983
ain't no way they are gonna turn a capsule into an engine :skull:
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:40:03 UTC No. 15951383
I think i have diabetes
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:48:18 UTC No. 15951400
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:49:03 UTC No. 15951403
>>15951098
Could you use air (or whatever atmosphere) as straight up reaction mass in a nuclear engine? Not like in pic related, but actually running air through as the fuel.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 00:50:56 UTC No. 15951411
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 01:57:56 UTC No. 15951547
>>15951314
>286 followers
Buy an ad, Jonas.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Jan 2024 05:02:56 UTC No. 15951709
>>15950590
What architecture for Terraforming mars do you envision that isnt a ridiculous waste of resources? We'd be better off with massive O'Neil Cylinders.