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🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General

Anonymous No. 15951398

New Years Day Edition

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Anonymous No. 15951402

sfg is alive

Anonymous No. 15951406

>>15951402
Its trve

Anonymous No. 15951407

>>15951398
nasa criminals and actors

Anonymous No. 15951413

>>15951398
you can literally see the strings. this is laugable globetards.

Anonymous No. 15951414

One week until IFT-3

Anonymous No. 15951420

>>15951413
Oh yeah fag? Explain Falcon landings

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Anonymous No. 15951425

Thread staged as I posted.


>>15951098
Could you use air (or whatever atmosphere) as straight up reaction mass in a nuclear engine? Not like in pic related, but actually running air through as the fuel.

Anonymous No. 15951427

>>15951420
weve had landable missiles since the 1950's...

Anonymous No. 15951430

>>15951425
it staged for a reason fag. get out of here with that.

Anonymous No. 15951433

>>15951413
NASA being faking bastards does not mean the earth is flat or that space itself is a lie.
It only highlights that NASA are liars and their presented idea of spasce is a lie

Anonymous No. 15951435

>>15951430
Hey come on now dont be mean to him

Anonymous No. 15951436

>>15951425
You're not allowed to post twice
>>15951413
SHUT UP

Anonymous No. 15951438

>>15951425
Yes, but you still run into the problem of nuclear engines being very heavy as well as leaning towards the "higher efficiency but lower thrust" end of the spectrum. Even if the idea works out on paper, and they usually do, they never measure up well against more conventional options.

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>>15951436
I wasn't going to post twice fuck you I'll change my mind

>Well, at least we're getting one LVM3 launch in 2024. Lord knows Shukrayaan and Mangalyaan-2 aren't getting to the pad this year.

Anonymous No. 15951443

>>15951425
I was joking btw. you are welcome to ask : )

Anonymous No. 15951445

>>15951442
Do jeets really?

Anonymous No. 15951446

Faggot free zone after this post

Anonymous No. 15951448

>>15951425
SIKE I LIED, YOU CANT ASK TWICE AHAHAHA

Anonymous No. 15951450

>>15951446
prophetic or pathetic? lets find out

Anonymous No. 15951456

>>15951442
>no less than four abort tests at different regiemes
lel this is going to be a safer spacecraft than Starliner

Anonymous No. 15951462

>>15951445
They seem to be pretty serious about trying for a crew launch in 2025.

>>15951456
The clock will be set to set to indian standard time and this time everything will work perfectly.

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Anonymous No. 15951463

6 CLPS missions planned this year, no other country will land as many landers on the moon this decade

ROSCOSMOS and ISRO are going to get MOGGED

Anonymous No. 15951475

>>15951463
6 missions, 6 failures ))))))

Anonymous No. 15951479

>>15951425
http://www.bisbos.com/space_n_profac.html
this idea is as close as I've found to your suggestion, but it uses the harvested oxygen as refuelling for a separate chemical rocket, and the nitrogen for nuclear electric thrust to offset drag instead of nuclear therm like I think you meant.

I remember a few years ago /sfg/ was discussing venus atmosphere harvesting and it boiled down to either floating platforms with cryogenic plants for air liquefaction or nuclear ramjet scoops in super low orbit

Anonymous No. 15951487

>>15951456
Not a high bar

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>>15951479
>nuclear ramjet
I guess this is more what I was asking for.

Anonymous No. 15951549

>>15951463
What do they do

Anonymous No. 15951558

>>15951463
Three maximum, likely just two. VIPER has already been quietly delayed and there are no signs of hardware for the 2nd and 3rd IM landers.

Anonymous No. 15951562

https://soundcloud.com/matt-interplanetary/300-eric-berger-2023

Berger has bought into the leftism propaganda

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Anonymous No. 15951563

Our Artemis III walker? and this can’t be axioms suit can it?

https://x.com/astro_jessica/status/1741955684990685186?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

Anonymous No. 15951565

>>15951562
I don't want to listen to an hour long podcast, give me a qrd

Anonymous No. 15951568

>>15951565
Elon bad because Twitter met resistance from regulators/political ideology. Its such a shallow take that it really devalues Burger's reputation. He comes off as someone thats only able to see from the bubble he's living in and unable to see what the other side of the resistance is. Or atleast he doesn't elaborate on that

Anonymous No. 15951570

>>15951568
For me, it's now Stephen Clark, who is clearly being groomed to be his successor at Ars.

Anonymous No. 15951573

>>15951568
Isn't Berger Jewish? Not surprising to see he wouldn't like a guy brushing up with populist and nationalist political figures on twitter. I mean, I'm on Elon's side here but what did you expect?

Anonymous No. 15951579

>>15951568
I remember seeing something akin to that on twitter from him, but kind of vague
pretty dumb take though, very shortsighted and naive
you would think he is somebody that should understand how political spaceflight can be, 10-20 years ago it was basically completely under the whims of politics

Anonymous No. 15951600

>>15951413
Flatfags fuck off

Anonymous No. 15951648

>>15951413
not my fault your (trans) wife is flat lol kek

Anonymous No. 15951661

How hot is the steam produced by the water cooling system meeting the engines on the booster?

Anonymous No. 15951665

>>15951661
Theyre as hot as your mom

Anonymous No. 15951676

>>15951493
>>15951425
I knew I had a textbook that talked about this. Raymer's Aircraft design: a conceptual approach. The book covers some interesting propulsion and fuel systems.

Anonymous No. 15951679

>>15951661
What the fuck are you talking about

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Anonymous No. 15951730

Rocket, fuel depot

Anonymous No. 15951756

/sfg/ is dead (and thats good)

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>>15951730
Gas stations are a type of depot

Anonymous No. 15951775

>>15951772
Fuck off Noa

Anonymous No. 15951782

>>15951772
Fuck off Noa

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Anonymous No. 15951791

Fuck off NOAA

Anonymous No. 15951799

https://twitter.com/CSElmendorf/status/1742066495382065174

Enviromental review laws getting expanded to ridiculous proportions

Anonymous No. 15951819

>>15951799
Doesnt seem to be specifically targetting Starship tho

Anonymous No. 15951835

>>15951819
Or targets every single construction. It's absolute garbage. This is just attempts to introduce degrowth and extinctionist movement of the Democrats.

Anonymous No. 15951860

>>15951835
>>>/pol/ might be more your speed

Anonymous No. 15951892

>>15951772
Based! Furry thread

Anonymous No. 15951897

>>15951799
Americans have to get rid of this green death cult.

Anonymous No. 15951904

>>15951892
Subhuman dog fucker

Anonymous No. 15951919

>>15951904
So?

Anonymous No. 15951922

>>15951892
Fuck off Noa

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Anonymous No. 15951923

A while ago I was running efficiency numbers for potential QI thrusters and I came up with a concept I call the Star Wars threshold, a point at which the overall electricity-to-thrust conversion enables flagrant scifi bullshit like fanless hovercars or direct SSTO with good payload fractions, and so on. As a rough order of magnitude estimate for working with current power supply technologies (diesel generators, batteries, fuel cells, solid core fission, etc.), that's on the order of 100mN/W, a figure which has been seen at least once on a tiny lab bench setup. The test thrusters on orbit now are about 1mN/W.

The future is closer than you think.

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>>15951922
Umm how bout no?

Anonymous No. 15951948

>>15951425
so this is basically a nuclear ramjet? They already exist. US has tested them and Russia has flown them (they accidentally made a village uninhabitable)

Anonymous No. 15951952

>>15951791
Why are they so paranoid about this? What are they afraid the shitty space webcam could reveal?????

Anonymous No. 15951976

>>15951952
unmarked satellites, I suppose
seems so infinitesimally small a chance, and would require getting so close as to physically contact and blow both up, but rules on secrecy are very strictly adhered to no matter how absurd

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>>15951570
berger is the superior writer and has access to sources. clark is a paid blogger.

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>>15951772
Funnily enough this Titan I is right next to a Krystal as well

Anonymous No. 15952039

>>15952007
>It's real
Do American's really?

Anonymous No. 15952049

>>15952039
Yes, they do have a space program.

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Anonymous No. 15952058

Why was this launch so secretive?

Anonymous No. 15952109

>>15952058
Reminder that they launched a replacement https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/06/spacex-globalstar-falcon-9/

Anonymous No. 15952110

>>15951923
>100mN/W, a figure which has been seen at least once on a tiny lab bench setup
No it wasn't. It was either fake or a mistake.

Anonymous No. 15952113

>>15952109
Reminder that the initial failure was a false flag which they have a history of doing

Anonymous No. 15952115

funny how all elon musk fans have become pol spergs instead of seeing the daylight as soon as their autistic mascot went off the rails. you guys are hopeless if youre still onboard

Anonymous No. 15952123

>>15952109
i don't think such a tiny sat would have very potent capabilities desu
>>15952113
can't hide orbital shit from even amateurs
there are so many ways you can track it if you know what you're doing

Anonymous No. 15952137

why musk wont make his own space station for tourism? already possible with falcon9

Anonymous No. 15952141

>>15952115
i can see how killing people is seen as not optimal by musk, imagine if he killed someone with dragon capsule exploding, meanwhile jews killed over 22 000 people and their covid killed over a million

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST_eBFvT3bY

Rare footage.

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>>15952143
I noticed that NASA has the pattern of testing random shit and than abandoning it.
Makes you think whether that RDE will go anywhere.

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>>15952143
>11:15 onward
Holy kino

Anonymous No. 15952186

>>15952137
Because it would be a pointless sideshow, there are other startups doing that + starship itself works as a spacestation

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>>15952186
>starship itself works as a spacestation
Is that before or after it explodes? Asking for a friend who scammed you all into thinking a shiny cock rocket was the answer to space exploration....spoiler it isn't....it's just an exploding cock.

Anonymous No. 15952230

So what instruments would you put onto an interstellar probe? Assuming the mission time is about 75 years and it is heading towards a nearby star to directly observe it

Anonymous No. 15952237

>>15952230
Gopro

Anonymous No. 15952270

>>15952222
I said no faggots >>15951446
For talking about dicks, go here >>15934505

Anonymous No. 15952274

>>15951923
I forgot where I read it but I'm pretty sure McCullough shelf said "it may be possible to achieve 58mN/W" which I am interpreting as being close to the theoretical limit.

Anonymous No. 15952286

>>15952039
We do like our roadside attractions and shitty fast food

Anonymous No. 15952296

>>15952270
calm down, schizo

Anonymous No. 15952306

anything interesting coming up soon? besides ift3 of course

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>>15951442
>YEAR OF GIGANYAN

Anonymous No. 15952313

>>15952306
Vulcan virgin flight.

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>>15952306
Musk should do a SpaceX pep talk that might have something interesting (it wont)
Vulcan Centaur launching on the 8th
Axiom 3 on the 17th

https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/

Anonymous No. 15952327

>berger hasnt done a daily telescope in awhile
what went wrong?

Anonymous No. 15952330

>>15952325
>Vulcan Centaur launching on the 8th
No it won't.

Anonymous No. 15952341

>>15952325
>just 8 more days until Vulcan falls back to the pad at T+3s and explodes!

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Anonymous No. 15952343

Ok so ULA is getting bought by BO.
How will this affect the launch market?

Anonymous No. 15952345

>>15952343
is that confirmed now?

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Anonymous No. 15952348

Juno makes its first ultra-close flyby of the volcano-covered moon Io
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https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/01/nasa-just-flew-by-the-solar-systems-most-volcanically-active-moon/
> On Saturday NASA's Juno spacecraft, which has been orbiting Jupiter for the better part of a decade, made its closest flyby of the innermost moon in the Jovian system.
> The spacecraft came to within 930 miles (1,500 km) of the surface of Io, a dense moon that is the fourth largest in the Solar System. Unlike a lot of moons around Jupiter and Saturn, which have surface ice or subsurface water, Io is a very dry world. It is also extremely geologically active. Io has more than 400 active volcanoes and is therefore an object of great interest to astronomers and planetary scientists.

Anonymous No. 15952352

>>15952343
Jeff just can't stop winning
>Blue Origin was awarded a contract for "Early Integration studies for NSSL Phase 3 Lane 2"
https://govtribe.com/opportunity/federal-contract-opportunity/synopsis-of-contract-award-for-fa8811-24-d-0001-ph3ln2eis2023

Anonymous No. 15952357

>>15951676
Raymer is the worst textbook I have ever had the displeasure to read. None of his math is explained or derived, all of the statistical models are handed down from on high without explaining their bounds of applicability, and in the edition I had all of the SI unit values are incorrectly converted.

Gudmunnsson made a much, much better version of the same book called "general aviation aircraft design".

Anonymous No. 15952358

Interspace is fake and gay. Outerspace is real and straight.

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>>15952352

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Anonymous No. 15952385

Damn, Estronaut is looking rough. Must be stressful having to put up with Elon's retarded takes all the time when you are a libtard and can't criticize him even one bit.

Anonymous No. 15952391

>>15952385
He'a busy rimming elon ass. That's the face of a good boy who loves every moment

Anonymous No. 15952407

>>15952385
>>15952391
can you take your homo fantasies to the correct thread please >>15934505

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Barkun No. 15952408

>>15952407

🗑️ Anonymous No. 15952410

>>15952407
The only one gobbling cocks and slurping cum ITT is (You). Particularly Elon cocks, but I wouldn't be surprised if you took it anally based on your post history

Anonymous No. 15952411

>>15952343
>How will this affect the launch market?

BO develops a reusable second stage using LOFTID.

New Glenn adds an optional Centaur third stage.

Anonymous No. 15952415

>>15952343
NG(7,4+CentaurVII+Star48BV)

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>>15952385
He looks like a Fallout character in that photo
I

Anonymous No. 15952417

>>15952352
>sub $1 million

Literally the change found under a cushon.

Anonymous No. 15952421

>>15952410
>>15952391
how do you call a mental condition where one is able to convey only thoughts in sex analogies?

Anonymous No. 15952423

>>15952327
on vacation probably

Anonymous No. 15952430

>>15952327
eric berger checked out years ago

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Anonymous No. 15952441

>>15951413
based

Anonymous No. 15952442

this thread is a little too much shitposting for my taste. i think the other thread is better for discussion

Anonymous No. 15952450

>>15951398
What's with the stupid retard hats? What are they even doing up there? 100 billion dollars and it advanced the USA by 0%. killed 14 people though, congrats

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Anonymous No. 15952460

>>15952359
Why not a flat 935k?

Anonymous No. 15952462

>>15952450
14 is beginner tier. wait til muskie modo is up there killing 100 people in one pop in his death trap tin can with no escape system at any point during flight.

Anonymous No. 15952464

What do we think about RDEs?

Anonymous No. 15952468

>>15952462
it's nice to see some criticism of musk here. /sfg/ is growing up

Anonymous No. 15952470

>>15952464
DOA

Anonymous No. 15952471

>>15952410
you are deepthorating fat neckbeard like common seethe septic while admiring your own reflection on his dicks glistening head

Anonymous No. 15952476

>>15952471
Very homosexual fantasy youre having there anon. Might be indicative of something else.

Anonymous No. 15952480

>>15952471
Wow, the faggot can't help himself. you degenerate fuck

Anonymous No. 15952483

>>15952470
Why? Firing tests have been successful so far.

Anonymous No. 15952493

>>15952476
>>15952480
I bet you faggots have not even the curtesy of fondling those disgusting fat slobs balls while you take your daily dose of vitamine EDS all over your mouth and throat

cock breathed commie motherfuckers

Anonymous No. 15952495

>>15952483
low thrust.
imagine for a moment you are thrust your cock in your boyfriends ass. well we know you dont excersize much so you got weak thrust, cant get the cock in the butt. well you need high thrust for that to get the job done and pierce the anus

Anonymous No. 15952497

>>15952493
Take that libruls

Anonymous No. 15952498

>>15952493
Um, sweaty? You need to go back and choke on Elon schlong some more while daddy and his friends get to business discussing spaceflight. If you keep this up you'll get the belt.

Anonymous No. 15952505

>>15952493
Go back to /lgbt/ faggot

Anonymous No. 15952507

>>15951456
the space shuttle was a safer craft than shartliner in its current form
you couldn't pay me to ride to space in that capsule
>>15951563
>isomeme on the fucking helmet
all that mass autism and orion is still a fat pig that can't get into LLO

Anonymous No. 15952510

>>15952507
Only nasa knows how to make a more powerful rocket than saturn V that cant get to the moon and back in a single launch

Anonymous No. 15952512

>>15952507
Triangles are strong and milling out metal like that makes it a whole lot lighter. Remember, all this shit is going up on an anemic hydromeme rocket, so weight is a premium.

Anonymous No. 15952515

Does nobody in this thread think of the fact that aliens might be extremely hostile?

Anonymous No. 15952517

>>15952515
I hope they are so I can kick their ass

Anonymous No. 15952520

>>15952517
what about aliens above your pay grade?
considering how common life is in the universe, there's a bunch of extremely powerful races out there that will exterminate any race that displays threatening characteristics.
It's in our best interest to go radio silent and prevent any detection of the solar system by more primitive aliens while operating in secrecy, while developing technology without drawing attention to make it too expensive for advanced aliens to explore this place

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Anonymous No. 15952532

holy crappola this thread has gone to shit while I've been out for the holidays

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>>15952532
I hate Falin.

Anonymous No. 15952552

>>15952517
*fuck their ass

Anonymous No. 15952592

>>15952441
you sir have won the internet today!

Anonymous No. 15952596

>>15952520
>pay grade
gay pride

Anonymous No. 15952601

>>15952411
You can't say anything for certain given how secretive Blue and ULA are with their tech specs, but I think there's a good chance a New Glenn/Centaur V stack could outright replace SLS for launching Orion to the moon.

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>>15952497
>>15952498
>>15952505
>>15952532
Yo flaming twink faggots know you love to smear red lipstick all over those juicy dick sucking lips. So the smears on the cock end up making the dick look like the shittles external fuel tank

Anonymous No. 15952603

>>15952460
Estimator tacked on their morning Starbucks run to the contract, please understand

Anonymous No. 15952607

>/sfg/-space faggots general

Anonymous No. 15952608

>>15952602
Stop

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Anonymous No. 15952610

This site is terrible

Anonymous No. 15952612

>>15952610
you know you can always change your mind and use the good thread instead

Anonymous No. 15952616

Rare that in 1986 a lake decided to suddenly release 150 000 tons of c02, suffocating 1746 people in a 25 km radius.

Anonymous No. 15952621

>>15952612
Fake news and not spaceflight

Anonymous No. 15952624

>>15952621
correct it's space-flight, obviously superior
nothing has happened over the holiday weekend anyway, when's the next launch

Anonymous No. 15952629

>>15952616
That's a pretty good prank

Anonymous No. 15952636

>>15952621
You're still seething and shitting your pants? it's been two weeks LOL

Anonymous No. 15952642

>>15952636
>>15952624
This >>15952621 post was meant for >>15952616 sorry about that. Other thread is still shit but havent even though about it in 4 says.

Anonymous No. 15952647

>>15952642
Incomprehensible

Anonymous No. 15952655

>>15952647
Midwit

Anonymous No. 15952658

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Nyos_disaster

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Anonymous No. 15952660

[Space News]
Booster ran away :(

Anonymous No. 15952661

>>15952660
haha is their booster running? they'd better go catch it!!!

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Anonymous No. 15952667

2023 in Review

Now it's SpaceX vs the Red Chinese. There's no one else in the race.

Anonymous No. 15952673

>>15952667
>3 launches by ULA for the whole year
Grim...

Anonymous No. 15952692

>>15952660
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFp6Gt-Gx50

Anonymous No. 15952717

https://twitter.com/VikranthJonna/status/1742213208092602392

Isro launching Comsat on f9 q2

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https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1742253223426060335
Mogged

Anonymous No. 15952819

>>15952673
It could have been worse. The Kupier launch was a last minute thing that only happened because Amazon was getting desperate to get some hardware into orbit for testing. Without that they would have only had two launches this year. That's the worst year they've ever had.

Anonymous No. 15952832

>>15952819
YWNBAW

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https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1742290079467315500

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https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1742294988606587191

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>>15952660
https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1742252336297451714

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https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1742297019727659295
> The Axiom 3 crew after completing SpaceX Crew Dragon testing.

2 weeks to launch

Anonymous No. 15952877

Stop spamming SpaceX chud

Anonymous No. 15952888

https://twitter.com/lrocket/status/1742250827606302957

> While everyone was enjoying the holiday break, our team was hard at work avoiding a collision with a dead cubesat in space. We manuevered Mira to avoid a 15 km/s collision with a cubesat in retrograde orbit. Great job by the Impulse team. We are stewards of safe orbital space!
> Mira orbit is Sun-syncronous, so nearly polar. Therefor it is possible to have retrograde aproaching debris (think heading N as Mira is heading S). Potential head-on at twice LEO velocities!

Anonymous No. 15952890

>>15952888
Contender for one of the dumbest things Mueller has ever said on record

Anonymous No. 15952912

>>15952876
Theres like 8 crew launches this year.

Anonymous No. 15952913

>Targeting back-to-back launches starting with tonight’s Falcon 9 launch of 21 @Starlink satellites from California followed by tomorrow’s Falcon 9 launch of the @OvzonAB Ovzon 3 mission from Florida http://spacex.com/launches

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1742309863244640300?s=20

Anonymous No. 15952914

>>15952913
First launch ~3 hours from now

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1OwxWYmNbeeGQ

Anonymous No. 15952958

https://twitter.com/VickiCocks15/status/1742276418707358099

Tight squeeze. Whoever parked there lol

Anonymous No. 15952975

>>15952913
After that, they've got two Starlink launches coming up this weekend, and Axiom 3 and Cygnus NG-20 later this month. That'd mean they need six additional Starlink launches to keep pace with their twelve-per-month goal for 2024.

That said, they've got twelve possible Falcon mission in February before they start adding Starlink launches, so there's room to make up for a shortfall.

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Anonymous No. 15952981

>>15952975

>Ends up fly both COTS finalist.

Remember when SpaceX was going to go bankrupt?

Anonymous No. 15952988

How far into advance are starlink missions announced?

Anonymous No. 15953002

>>15952988
Days in advance usually

Anonymous No. 15953003

/sfg/ would be more fun if you posted images. like a fun one, like rocket girls or something

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Anonymous No. 15953008

>>15952981
It's been a while

Anonymous No. 15953009

>>15952532
CUTE

Anonymous No. 15953021

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5YNCOAD4q3QdkDCWSE76Sp
Is eric berger feigning Elon derangement syndrome? either way he better tone it the fuck down if he wants to keep his insider access for the eventual Starship book

Anonymous No. 15953028

>>15953021
As said in yesterday's previous thread, he's either unable to understand the other side of the debate or the he does not wish to acknowledge the problem at hand. He and the interviewer claims that X met resistance from political ideology at the company and regulators, thats why X/Elon is bad. X is just as important as SpaceX/Tesla at this point in time. Without a free society, mars would be full of wokoe garbage wanting to tear it down. We cannot have a society like that. Humans cannot have a future like this.

Anonymous No. 15953035

>>15953028
Without a free society Mars colonization will never happen for the same reasons the German Democratic Republic always objected to people trying to get over the wall they built in Berlin.

Anonymous No. 15953036

>>15953028
Musk is ruining twitter. he's bad at managing twitter

Anonymous No. 15953042

>>15953036
Hard times require strong men to make sacrifices. If you dot not see it this way, then you do not even understand the nature of the problem or rather you see the "problem" as a solution due to political ideology.

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Anonymous No. 15953045

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1742333544377229332

Anonymous No. 15953051

>>15952975
>twelve possible Falcon mission in February before they start adding Starlink launches
mfw that's THREE (3) launches per week. Or roughly a launch every other day.

Anonymous No. 15953053

>>15953028
if the woke stuff got powerful/bad enough I don't think its possible to start a mars colony
its basically an existential threat to making humans multiplanetary

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Anonymous No. 15953063

>>15953053
I guess you could call it an X risk.

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Anonymous No. 15953065

>>15953053
Exactly.

>>15953045
Old v new size. New one's quite bit larger

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Anonymous No. 15953069

>>15953036
simply not true, twitter is better than ever, transforming the business model to be something that is not purely under the whims of the advertisers is critical
the situation needs to be that advertisers need to go to X because it is a platform that has a lot of eyeballs and they can't afford not to, not that X needs to beg for advertisers approval for every fucking thing and anything that gets posted on the platform needs to be approved by advertisers
the later has shown itself to be a threat to an open and free society, and its simply makes the platform much more boring

they just hit record numbers
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1742314351514530126

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>>15953069
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1742315198159995040

musk has also said he thinks there is a possibility of X becoming a trillion dollar company but even just saying Musk is ruining twitter is incorrect
maybe its ruining it if you want to live in a leftist woke bubble, I guess that is correct then
but its not generally true

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Anonymous No. 15953074

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1742334786109128745

Anonymous No. 15953081

Spaceflight 'journalists' are all political hacks.

Anonymous No. 15953082

>>15953072
People forget that Musk's plan for X isn't just tweeting, its a whole swath of financial services that he wants to offer, which have been getting slow to roll out due to regulatory hurdles. That alone will turn X into a huge powerhouse once it rolls out.

Anonymous No. 15953087

>>15953082
yes, still waiting for transaction licenses in california and new york
he wants to make it the platform paypal was supposed to be before they ousted him

Anonymous No. 15953088

>>15953069
>>15953072
>>15953082
>>15953087
>>15953053
>>15953036
>>15953042
>>15953028
>>15953035
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU STUPID NIGGERS THIS ISNT SPACEFLIGHT RELATED GO BACK TO >>>/g/

Anonymous No. 15953096

spaceflight

Anonymous No. 15953097

>>15953088
lmao get demolished and you resort to this
fuck off fag, don't bring this stuff up in the first place then

Anonymous No. 15953099

Hes right you faggots are ruining the thread. Talk about spaceflight not twitter news, take that shit to the other /sfg/.
>inb4 twitter news is spaceflight related bc elon
Ok Im gonna spam Tesla and Neuralink news if thats true, WHICH ITS NOT and we've been through this before so stop shitting up the thread.

Anonymous No. 15953102

>>15953051
SpaceX is the only launch company in history that'd look at a record-shattering year and say, "Yeah, let's boost that by another 50%."

Anonymous No. 15953104

>>15953097
I just fucking got here moron Im not going to read your shit nobody cares about essay.

Anonymous No. 15953105

>>15953099
Prominent space journos talking about it and discussing it for 15 minutes of the 60 minute talk means its important. He tried talking about how elon/X bad for such and such. Its important to push back against space journos who live in their own bubble.

Anonymous No. 15953132

>>15953074
>Imagine me in 2008 rooting for Blue Origin.

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Anonymous No. 15953133

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1742324731657744664

https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2024/01/02/elon-musk-is-not-understood/
> Elon Musk is not understood

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Anonymous No. 15953140

>>15953133
There is space flight in here somewhere but where?

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>>15953140

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Anonymous No. 15953152

https://twitter.com/DrPhiltill/status/1742325272370622708

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>>15953152
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1742327423759224998

lrocket is tom mueller

Anonymous No. 15953155

I remember when NSF members tried piecing together the F9 first sea landing video

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>>15953152
https://twitter.com/JoeMaristela/status/1742328341422862464

kek someone having a meltdown

Anonymous No. 15953159

>>15953154
Can't wait for more Mueller shennanigans

Anonymous No. 15953160

>>15953155
They did successfully reconstruct a lot of the frames in the video, so the guys did manage something better than "tried." The reconstructed clip was used in the "how not to land an orbital class rocket" video.

Anonymous No. 15953168

>>15953133
Its a great dissection of all points from the bankrupt leftist woke talking head. Fighting full contextualized facts against half truths from leftoids.

Anonymous No. 15953170

>>15953156
The guy's ranting and raving like he sees Elon as an ideological threat.

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Anonymous No. 15953181

>>15953133
I see Casey still has a bad case of TDS and completely ignores that a guy who grew up in South Africa just might have some insights on the Great Replacement.

Anonymous No. 15953188

>>15952912
Should be per week

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Anonymous No. 15953219

thoughts on a SSME made for trans-mars injections instead of a NTR?

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>>15953219

Anonymous No. 15953227

>>15953219
what the fuck is that font

Anonymous No. 15953240

>>15953227
ohio ahhh font fr

Anonymous No. 15953241

>>15953219
So, what? An RS-25 with more than 475s of isp? I can't think of any reason why it'd be the weak link in the plan. Getting the hundreds of tons of hydrolox into orbit to feed that thirsty girl is always going to be the hard trick with that sort of mission architecture.

Anonymous No. 15953243

>>15953240
its almost illegible

Anonymous No. 15953245

>>15952115
elon musk isn't even that rw, he's center-right at most. you're acting like everybody who is rw is a 'pol sperg'

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Anonymous No. 15953247

>>15953140
you seem confused, that's atmospheric flight. just like webm rel. not spaceflight

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Anonymous No. 15953248

>>15953241
ab is with aerobraking
reference is using the ssme

Anonymous No. 15953250

>>15952348
Io is actually one of the most interesting moons in the solar system. Its a pretty interesting target for colonization too for the outer solar system, since it has metals close to the surface. Unfortunately you'd have to set up a lot of radio infrastructure to drain the Jovian radiation belts, but by the time humans are colonizing the outer solar system that should be pretty trivial.

Anonymous No. 15953254

>>15953250
>trivial
I love /sfg/ handwaving

Anonymous No. 15953255

RS-25 is too overkill for deep space, with like two turbine stages and many moving parts. What's the simplest hydrogen engine you can get away with? Has anyone made a pressure-fed one?

Anonymous No. 15953260

>>15953255
i found this
https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1993jann....2...51D/abstract

Anonymous No. 15953261

>>15953248
What's the Y axis, metric tons IMLEO for a given payload?

Anonymous No. 15953265

>>15953260
Yet another instance of some novel technology being tested and relegated to some pdf in NASA's archive >>15952158

Anonymous No. 15953266

>>15953261
yes
im just gonna link the full study here
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19930003255/downloads/19930003255.pdf

Anonymous No. 15953269

https://twitter.com/wulei2020/status/1742200361039937876

Chinese Astronauts eating dumpling in space in their own Taingong Space Station for new years

Anonymous No. 15953270

>>15953255
It's more overkill because of it's thrust rather than its complexity. Simpler engine designs have lower isp and produce ships that need more structure and fuel for a given payload mass. That's why so many designers keep pushing for things like NTP despite all of the other engineering downsides.

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Anonymous No. 15953272

>>15953142

Anonymous No. 15953274

>>15953269
lol

Anonymous No. 15953275

>>15953254
By the time humans are colonizing the outer solar system, yeah, it'd be comparatively trivial.

Anonymous No. 15953277

>>15953269
It's weird to think that this is going to be the biggest station in space in a few years.

Anonymous No. 15953280

>>15953277
The old die and the new take its place.

Anonymous No. 15953281

>>15953269
goofy ahhh speech bubbles fr

Anonymous No. 15953295

>>15953266
>use of Space Station Freedom in conjunction with STS
Reeeeeeeeee we were robbed

Anonymous No. 15953300

>>15953270
It's not overkill for thrust though. You need to be measuring thrust in meganewtons to do anything interesting with interplanetary crew. That's why the Mars Reference Architecture has a few cuck sheds strapped to nuclear reactors and SpaceX is planning entire cities based on Starship fleets.

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Anonymous No. 15953301

>>15953295
>he doesn't know about the '90s lunar outpost proposal with a direct ascent profile from a Saturn-derived rocket
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Lunar_Outpost
it was canceled after Clinton came into office and NASA wanted to do things "faster, better, cheaper"

Anonymous No. 15953302

>>15953028
He should have instead backed the armored truck up to Youtube headquarters. Youtube clickbait has way more influence than twitter. Most twitter accounts aren't real people

Anonymous No. 15953303

>>15952717
https://twitter.com/Chethan_Dash/status/1742263480852353475

More info on the ISRO GSAT comsat

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Anonymous No. 15953308

>>15953301
>there was going to be a precursor landing with 2 astronauts with the spacecraft assembled in orbit with an Ariane 5 and a shuttle

Anonymous No. 15953311

>>15953301
Bill Clinton got away with absolute murder because he presided over the 10MHz to 1GHz spike in Moore's Law and the commercializatiob of the Internet so everyone was rolling in money. What a faggot he was in retrospect.

Anonymous No. 15953312

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/01/a-commanders-lament-on-the-loss-of-a-historic-spacex-rocket/
>“For Bob and I, that particular booster was always pretty special for a lot of reasons," said Hurley, a veteran Marine Corps fighter pilot who retired from NASA's astronaut corps in 2021. He now works at Northrop Grumman.
>“It’s kind of a bummer," Hurley told Ars.
>“SpaceX has got a business to run," he said. "I think, at this point, certainly Endeavour is going to fly more, but this booster isn’t, so hopefully they can find a spot to display it somewhere. Even part of it would look kind of cool somewhere. They could figure something out ... People, I think, can get a lot of inspiration from seeing stuff that’s actually flown in space, and being able to get right up close to it, I think, is a big deal to a lot of people.”

Anonymous No. 15953314

>>15953312
i don't think the falcon 9 booster ever passed the Karman line though

Anonymous No. 15953318

>>15953181
Kal'sip

Anonymous No. 15953322

>>15953003
sfg would be more fun if faggots like you would stay on topic and actually discuss interesting space technologies rather than shitting up the thread with your masturbation material.

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Anonymous No. 15953324

starlink launch soon.

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>>15953322
what if someone gets off to the thought of discussing interesting space technologies?
also here is a methalox ssme because why not

Anonymous No. 15953333

>>15953324
This >>15934505 thread might be more your speed

Anonymous No. 15953336

>>15953099
nigger

Anonymous No. 15953340

>>15953324
https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1OwxWYmNbeeGQ

t-30 min till live

Anonymous No. 15953341

>>15953133
based coomer casey, handjob handmer does it again

Anonymous No. 15953342

>>15953336
Never said I was wrong, shitskin.

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Anonymous No. 15953344

>>15953301
Once upon a time, we had a space agency that could dream of building big rockets

Anonymous No. 15953347

>>15953219
if you can start an SSME in orbit I will lick your balls
>>15953333
go home tranny

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Anonymous No. 15953353

>>15953269
China heavenly palace seems a lot nicer than america tin can station

Anonymous No. 15953356

why do rockets need QD arms? just pull the arms away at t-30 and eat the fraction of a fraction of a percent loss of battery power and fuel

Anonymous No. 15953359

>>15953356
I don't think its battery and fuel power loss as much as it is the ability to abort

Anonymous No. 15953360

>>15953324
holy fucking cute overload

Anonymous No. 15953361

>>15953352
where is this from?

Anonymous No. 15953363

>>15953361
>>15953133

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Anonymous No. 15953368

https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/1742377519158833386
>Asteroid hunters have made the serendipitous discovery of an object in a 5875 x 66768 km x 30.8 deg supersynchronous transfer orbit, A10ZEt3. I've tried to come up with a way it could be OTV 7, but I don't see an obvious series of maneuvers that could get it to the right orbit

Anonymous No. 15953370

>>15953347
>go home tranny
>8v&oe literally just said would lick another mans nuts
Might wanna kill yourself projecting closetted troon.

Anonymous No. 15953371

>>15953082
As much as I like a lot of what Musk does, this "everything app" shit is really gay cringe globohomo etc. buzzwords stuff that I really hate. Same with his obsession with touchscreens.

Anonymous No. 15953372

>>15953370
baby I'm a man
a man's man

Anonymous No. 15953374

>>15953371
you are a cringe faggot

Anonymous No. 15953377

>>15953371
Nah, seamless integration is necessary a good thing. Particularly when you know the globohomo does not control it and has been trying to kill X for a while. So we can be certain its something that they wont like

Anonymous No. 15953393

>>15953340
music

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Anonymous No. 15953397

>>15953368
*taps mic*

Anonymous No. 15953398

is this a new intro?

Anonymous No. 15953400

narrators? in *my* starlink launch?
it's more likely than you think

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Anonymous No. 15953403

kate tice and jessie hosting
6 new direct to cell satellites launching and they will talk about it more later
I guess that is why this started t-15 instead of t-5?

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Anonymous No. 15953406

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1742387397059555608

reposting link

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Anonymous No. 15953409

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1742388617732050945

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Anonymous No. 15953412

>>15953409

Anonymous No. 15953414

>>15953412
so which 6 are the direct to cell ones?

Anonymous No. 15953416

I like how SpaceX has just completely obviated entire classes of protocols like LoRa and ZigBee by upgrading Starlink.

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Anonymous No. 15953419

>>15953414
maybe all of them? but just 6 have license to test this capability
they do talk about these new 6 being brigther so perhaps they aren't shown on this stack

Anonymous No. 15953420

>>15953356
Mass autism. Unfortunately, even Starship is not immune.

Anonymous No. 15953422

Oh shit, new booster.

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Anonymous No. 15953426

t-1:15

Anonymous No. 15953427

>>15953422
Fake as shit wheres your proof fag

Anonymous No. 15953428

LIVE

https://youtu.be/uVvHfODPBVw

Anonymous No. 15953429

>>15953427
listen to the stream dipshit

Anonymous No. 15953430

>>15953427
look at it, its shiny

Anonymous No. 15953431

the launch audio for space x streams always sucks

Anonymous No. 15953433

>>15953314
being able to read would be helpful, it is even stated in the article to have done it at least once
F9 boosters reach space on I think every orbital mission, check the telemetry in the webcast some time.

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Anonymous No. 15953435

big one

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>>15953433
got up to 122

Anonymous No. 15953440

>>15953438
What a time to be alive that one can open a rocket livestream in another tab and instantly school someone. There is literally a booster in space RIGHT NOW

Anonymous No. 15953441

>>15953433
btw its me (krystal) who said that the booster didn't go to space

Anonymous No. 15953442

>>15953440
Not anymore, it just landed.

Anonymous No. 15953443

>>15953442
blud still seething that xhe go btfo'd

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Anonymous No. 15953448

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1742393908183650382

even elon shared it

Anonymous No. 15953449

Can Starship send stuff to GTO in one launch or do they have to refuel for that first?

Anonymous No. 15953451

>>15953449
Depends on how much freight you want moved

Anonymous No. 15953454

>>15953449
the specs call for 20 tons direct to GTO

Anonymous No. 15953455

>>15953451
also assuming it can aerobrake back from GTO

Anonymous No. 15953459

>>15953455
why would you bother coming back from gto? just lose the ship at that point. you're already miles ahead just recovering it from leo

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>>15953409
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1742396904619581642

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>>15953476
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1742397174606901649

Anonymous No. 15953484

Is becoming a multiplanetary species really worth of giving internet access to billions of Indians?

Anonymous No. 15953494

>>15953484
*acquiring targeting solutions on billions of Indians

Anonymous No. 15953498

>>15953476
You're not gonna be able to stream normieslop from it, but when you're driving in the bush and you need navigation, simple messaging or you need to google how to change a flat, this shit is game changing.

Anonymous No. 15953500

>>15953484
Indias net penetration is at 63%, so hundreds of millions already have internet access (881 mil)
giving the rest access isn't going to change anything meaningfully

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>>15953498
its going to be just texting at first but yes this is pretty nice
global cell access, no more dead zones (assuming regulatory and provider bureaucracy etc is worked out at that specific area)

https://direct.starlink.com/

Anonymous No. 15953509

>>15953280
The average Chinese citizen is older than the average American citizen.

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Anonymous No. 15953511

https://twitter.com/longmier/status/1742397472830599554

swarm co-founder, I guess the swarm tech is pivotal to direct to cell? and that is why spacex acquired them (if it wasnt just an acquihire)

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Anonymous No. 15953515

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1742407267646132615

Anonymous No. 15953521

>>15953515
It's starting to really dawn on me just how terrifying Spacex must be to the rest of the industry

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Anonymous No. 15953525

>>15953521
Astra went out of its way to target niches SpaceX wasn't at the time and still got wrecked. I can't imagine what it's like for legacy beeg rogget providers like ULA or Ariane.

Anonymous No. 15953526

>>15953521
Given just how many players in oldspace needed a decade to accept that reuse even worked with the Falcon 9, and given just how many newspace entrants were inspired to repeat SpaceX's early attempts while not paying any attention to the lesions that SpaceX learned from them, I'm not sure how many people in the industry actually understand the industry.

Anonymous No. 15953535

why is China making both the long march 9 and 10 if they accomplish the same mission?

Anonymous No. 15953541

>>15953535
Corruption

Anonymous No. 15953546

>>15953397
Any updates on skitzodrive?

Anonymous No. 15953548

>>15953535
First, they're not doing the same mission.

The LM-10 is a rocket that China can build with the tech they have right now that's big enough to handle a lunar mission in just two launches. Later on it can be cut down to just the core in the LM-10A and have reuse tech added on from one the independent groups to produce another Falcon 9 equivalent.

The LM-9 is in a bigger weight class that's intended to compete with Starship. It's supposed to be used to support a lunar outpost after the LM-10 missions have run the flags-and-footprints routine, or maybe for geostationary solar power if Beijing decides their still interested in that. The LM-9 is going to be using next-generation engines (which is why it's a mid-2030s rocket instead of a late 2020s one) as well as reuse tech right from the start.

They also might have been pushed originally by different chief designers. China is not immune to Korolev vs Chelomei drama.

Anonymous No. 15953554

>>15953526
Most of "the industry" had never started from zero themselves, they were forked off of ICBM programs started during the Cold War which in turn had roots in Peenemunde. SpaceX and Rocket Lab are the only two consistently profitable companies to pull that off.

Anonymous No. 15953555

>>15953546
Still waiting on authorization to turn it on.

Anonymous No. 15953561

>>15953554
I agree with the idea of your post, but SpaceX is most definitely not consistently profitable and neither is Rocket Lab. You could've chosen so many other attributes that'd fit other than this one.

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>>15953555
If they turned it on and it worked, do you think they'd tell us, or would it get swallowed by some NRO/USSF black budget program? Is there anyone outside of this underwater Micronesian basket weaving forum following it?

Anonymous No. 15953581

>>15953561
I was trying to find some way to differentiate from the Chinese companies that get infinite 0% loans as long as they keep hiring.

Anonymous No. 15953590

>>15953564
There were a few schizos doing QI garage tests back in 2020-2021 but due to various normienet ban sprees /sfg/ is the only place that consistently knows quantized inertia is even being tested still other than direct replies to McCulloch and Mansell (IVO CEO) on Shitter. Mansell would absolutely announce that it worked because his goal is a jump to TRL 9, a mass produced product people can buy. At this point I think the black projects have their own test hardware - I'm legitimately half convinced the X-37B OTV-7 is using a Horizon Drive to perform "impossible" maneuvers as described
>>15953368

Anonymous No. 15953608

>>15953590
Shut up niglet

Anonymous No. 15953651

>there will be another spacex launch later today
>we'll be at 3 launches in 3 days
300 launches here we goooooooooooooooo

Anonymous No. 15953759

>>15953133
spaceflight?

Anonymous No. 15953768

>>15953500
What about Africa?

Anonymous No. 15953849

>>15952840
Wasn't Cybertruck massively delayed due to production problems?

Anonymous No. 15953850

>>15953849
the cybertruck isnt real. it's called a concept car

Anonymous No. 15953851

>>15953245
Oh yeah he's super center right, but he seems to like pandering to people further on the right a lot.

Anonymous No. 15953853

>>15953849
They ended up re-engineering the whole thing to make it production ready, and a lot of the technologies they ended up putting into it or wanted to put into it weren't actually ready.

Anonymous No. 15953857

>>15953851
The stuff he's pandering to is eminently reasonable stuff that isn't actually all that far right. The only reason it looks particularly extreme is because the further right elements are the only ones bothering to be vocal about it.

Anonymous No. 15953861

>>15953849
supply chain problems

Anonymous No. 15953875

>>15953245
musk panders to holocaust deniers like alex jones.

Anonymous No. 15953878

>>15953875
Yeah, center right.

Anonymous No. 15953884

>>15953875
When did Alex Jones deny the holocaust?

Anonymous No. 15953922

>>15953884
he literally said that 6 million was a globalist blood ritual number a million times and that hitler was a paid actor

Anonymous No. 15953931

>>15953922
I literally cannot find a single shred of proof of this. The only thing I can see about him claiming anyone was a paid actor pertains to Sandy Hook.

Anonymous No. 15953978

>>15953922
Is this true?

Anonymous No. 15953990

>>15953978
it's not

Anonymous No. 15954016

>>15953978
Concur with this Anon:
>>15953990
The other guy in
>15953922
is just plain making shit up.

Anonymous No. 15954046

/sfg/ sucks every moment a rocket isn’t actively on its way to or from space

Anonymous No. 15954052

Unhinged leftists naking ahit up as is tradition
And musk didnt want to let jones back on the platform and didnt at first, but people kept pestering him about it and ultimately free speech is about letting people you dont like say things you dont like
He held a poll and like 70% said bring him back
You know the reason jones was banned was not the sandy hook thing? It was due to saying some journalist looks like a rat

Anonymous No. 15954056

https://twitter.com/TurkeyBeaver/status/1742524679091269656

>We are aiming for 144 launches in 2024 (12 per month). The launch system (pads, recovery, flight hardware) needs to be capable of 13/month so we can play catch up when planned maintenance, debacles and weather inevitably slow us down.

Anonymous No. 15954066

>>15954052
Well that's dumb, journalists ARE rats

Anonymous No. 15954074

Knower here
It will not be a good end to the week

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Anonymous No. 15954091

https://twitter.com/ISROSpaceflight/status/1742543119714050406
>In the post launch press conference of PSLV-C58, Dr. Somanath said, ISRO plans to launch 2 Gaganyaan in-flight abort missions (TV-D2 and D3) and 2 uncrewed orbital testflights of Gaganyaan in 2024! In addition, they will also conduct a Pad Abort Test (PAT-02) and an Integrated Air Drop Test (IADT) this year.
I'm still a little surprised that they plan to crank out this many launches for a single program before the end of the year. If they can manage all of that a crewed launch in 2025 doesn't seem unreasonable.

Anonymous No. 15954104

>>15953521
It's like a man with a chainsaw killing severely retarded children. They're not even aware enough to be scared.

Anonymous No. 15954108

the martian banner will wave over the galaxy

Anonymous No. 15954112

>>15954056
>spacex cant launch more because there arent enough launch sites
wtf is biden doing, build more spaceports

Anonymous No. 15954137

>>15954112
Pads might not be the bottleneck. Right now I'd say that the biggest limitations is droneship turnaround. Still not an excuse not to have another Falcon pad. SLC-17's looking pretty good right about now.

Anonymous No. 15954152

>>15953154
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1742429336991416812
>True

Anonymous No. 15954155

>>15954152
>writing another book
berger would make more money with a youtube channel

Anonymous No. 15954157

>>15953521
>It's starting to really dawn on me just how terrifying Spacex must be to the rest of the industry
Even we don't really have a good grasp on the implications of SpaceX's approach. Nobody's seriously entertaining the idea of Starships that fly once a day.

Anonymous No. 15954179

>>15954157
>Nobody's seriously entertaining the idea of Starships that fly once a day.
Not yet
SpaceX is going to demonstrate it at some point. It's one of the reasons the tank farm has been expanded. While they clearly didn't need the expansion for IFT-1/2 it is needed if you expect launches in quick succession

Anonymous No. 15954182

>>15954152
Shut up chud

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Anonymous No. 15954187

>>15954157
The original idea for the Shuttle program was to have a fleet of four orbiters each launching 24 times per year, for a total of about 96 missions, for about $2000kg. Falcon 9 launched 96 missions last year, most of which were carrying a payload equal to a max-capacity Shuttle flight, for about $1500/kg. No one has ever really bothered to think about what a fully functional Starship program could look like beyond "a lot of big, cheap launches happen off camera" in something like The High Frontier.

Anonymous No. 15954190

>>15954187
Shuttle sucked end of story

Anonymous No. 15954204

>>15954187
Full Starlink v2 upgrade is the obvious one. Beyond that it starts to outrun the market. Crew rating and then a Shuttle style crew+clamshell+arm construction variant to build spinhabs or space solar power is my best guess for a capacity soak. Then Mars.

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Anonymous No. 15954206

Staging

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