🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 02:57:04 UTC No. 15957326
direct to cell - edition
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Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 03:01:35 UTC No. 15957336
>>15957329
Obama.
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 03:02:21 UTC No. 15957339
>>15957333
thanks anon, this is going in my rocket girls folder, AND my anime girls heating hamburgers folder
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 03:03:33 UTC No. 15957341
>>15957333
thanks anon. this is going in my rocket girls folder, AND my anime girls eating hamburgers folder
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 03:03:39 UTC No. 15957342
>>15957326
Glass the Earth, demigod war eventually
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 03:05:27 UTC No. 15957345
>>15957341
Burgers are perhaps the most challenging food to eat in space. A real test of a spinhab is being able to eat burgers without fluids flying everywhere and the burger staying stacked without a hand on it.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 03:07:17 UTC No. 15957350
>>15957346
*F-1B
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 03:10:31 UTC No. 15957358
>>15957346
>>15957350
Congress.
>NO NO NO YOU MUST USE THE SOLIDS
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 03:13:27 UTC No. 15957366
>>15957364
I agree
why did the false god (USA) disapprove of the development of the J-2X and the F-1B engines?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 03:39:01 UTC No. 15957405
>>15957404
This is known
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 03:40:36 UTC No. 15957411
>>15957404
the article is about this post (pic related)
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status
> To achieve Mars colonization in roughly three decades, we need ship production to be 100/year, but ideally rising to 300/year.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 03:49:33 UTC No. 15957428
https://spacenews.com/nasa-instrume
> The primary payload of Cert-1 is Peregrine, a commercial lunar lander developed by Pittsburgh-based Astrobotic. The launder is carrying 20 payloads, including five instruments from NASA under a Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) award made in 2019.
> Three of the instruments — the Near-Infrared Volatile Spectrometer System (NIRVSS), Neutron Spectrometer System (NSS) and Peregrine Ion-Trap Mass Spectrometer (PITMS) — will work together to study volatiles like water on the surface and the moon’s exosphere.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 03:53:12 UTC No. 15957436
Thank you for covering my absence of baking OP.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 03:55:43 UTC No. 15957439
>>15957437
china numba wan!! KEEEEK LOOK AT RUSSIA AND EUROPE JUST SINKING
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 03:56:39 UTC No. 15957441
>>15957437
2023 was as good a year for Europe as it was for ULA
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 03:59:11 UTC No. 15957443
>>15957411
A ship every day, a launch every 5 minutes
God I am so excited for the future of spaceflight bros
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:00:05 UTC No. 15957445
>>15957441
>hey let's uhhhhhhh retire ariane 5 before we have 6 ready
>oh no where did my domestic launch capability go
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:00:37 UTC No. 15957447
>>15957441
Its not opposite day thoughever
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:04:00 UTC No. 15957450
>>15957445
It swan-dived into the Atlantic along with the idea that Vega was ever going to be an attractive launch option
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:04:58 UTC No. 15957451
>>15957437
>a third of the "other" launches are also a US company launching from NZ
lmao
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:06:51 UTC No. 15957454
NEW EAGER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_a
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:07:18 UTC No. 15957455
>>15957454
Hes so boring
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:08:20 UTC No. 15957457
>>15957455
based eager filtering ADHD zoomerkeks
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:09:43 UTC No. 15957459
>>15957447
What's with these retarded variations on the word "though" you keep using?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:11:18 UTC No. 15957462
>>15957459
blud is from the bald man with glasses website which is filled with refugees from the basedjak board fr fr :skull:
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:12:54 UTC No. 15957463
>>15957455
he has the best "pop sci" videos about rocketry I've seen (pop sci meaning this format instead of something like a lecture with actual formulas and so on)
nice and short and to the point
everyday astronaut has better production value but the videos tend to be so fucking long
hullo rambles on about random shit so its a bit of hit and miss
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:13:20 UTC No. 15957464
>>15957462
I went there for 3 months and have left but its true. Its been carved into my vocabulary and I cant stop. Send help I want to be normal again.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:16:51 UTC No. 15957469
>>15957464
we lost another one /sfg/, what a shame
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:17:35 UTC No. 15957471
>>15957463
true
I hate how every other "educational" space media focuses on shit like warp drives or wormholes instead of talking about stuff that's actually achievable and relevant to current space exploration.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:18:43 UTC No. 15957473
>>15957469
funny thing is that particular website has a /sci/ board, but I haven't found anything related to spaceflight there, not even during the IFTs
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:33:02 UTC No. 15957485
>>15957462
u wot m8
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:37:23 UTC No. 15957487
There's been a lot of discussion and hype around the SS/SH testing program, but what do we know about SpaceX's plans are for Mars once they actually get there? Do we have any initial mission architectures? ISRU tech demos? Are they jus6 gonna LARP out Zubrin's Mars Direct plan?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:38:11 UTC No. 15957488
>>15957487
Theyre keeping it hidden right now. They have some preliminary stuff but cant show anythinf off it seems.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:39:03 UTC No. 15957489
>>15957487
https://www.spacex.com/humanspacefl
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:41:24 UTC No. 15957492
>>15957487
didn't we see them 3d printing structures out of mars stimulant at starbase a while ago?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:43:29 UTC No. 15957494
>>15957492
We did but thats still just the basics, also probably nowhere near finished, its also not been tested in the correct environment yet like radiation, pressure, temperature, humidity, etc. They need to control for all that at somepoint, will probably make a big difference and I can really only see that being simulated on Mars itself with autonomous robots being sent there.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 04:49:40 UTC No. 15957496
>>15957487
I remember like 7 years ago or something they had a conference where they invited like Cat diggers and the like. Looking back on it, it might have been more about building Starbase.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 05:00:34 UTC No. 15957503
>>15957487
I think they're going to land a bunch of supplies and robots on Mars first and then send humans on the next orbital maneuver window.
Everything will have to be built from scratch in a hostile environment and necessities like water recycling and food production probably won't be available at the start so they'll have to subsist on what they bring for a while. Honestly I don't think the Mars colony will go smoothly and it's no fault of SpaceX. Colonists in America at least had air, water, lumber, and some food available in their land, but Mars has none of that, and all those supplies have to be brought over from a distance many orders of magnitude larger than that of the Atlantic ocean with very significantly less freight volume than a boat.
Read up on the struggles of some of the early American colonies and you'll see that setting up a new society with no existing infrastructure in place is surprisingly difficult even with their access to the many amenities that aren't present on Mars. The one upside is that Martians won't have to worry about the many diseases that plagued American settlers as a result of mosquitos and other animals.
A lot of people undersell just how dangerous Mars still is. It's atmosphere is about 10x thinner than the minimum pressure required for body fluids to not evaporate i.e. even with an air tank, anyone going outside in Mars will still die brutally from the low pressure. This means any every habitat will still have to be pressurized as if it were a space station and any rupture will result in a dangerous decompression like in space. There's also no magnetic field protecting Martians from radiation. For all intents and purposes, building on Mars will be like building a space station except you have an atmosphere to protect against debris and some gravity to prevent total body atrophy, but that also comes with the difficulties of countering the atmosphere and gravity.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 05:05:01 UTC No. 15957508
>>15957503
>muh magnetic field
It's equivalent exposure to half of LEO. Astronauts on the ISS are fine.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 05:08:21 UTC No. 15957512
>>15957487
Mueller was supposedly working the last 5 years he was at SpaceX on ISRU (might be among other things or exclusively)
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 05:29:09 UTC No. 15957543
>>15957487
I think the first mission will bring along the hydrogen feedstock to demonstrate ISRU refueling via the Sabtier reaction. They should also bring back a surface sample if they can figure out a way to get something down ~100ft from the payload bay and then back up again autonomously - which I think will be a big sticking point with lunar and eventually mars starship. That and blowing a crater into the ground where they're trying to land.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 05:30:23 UTC No. 15957544
>>15957543
The crater problem will eventually result in big ITS style self leveling legs.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 05:50:00 UTC No. 15957565
What if we made a spinning burger space station
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 06:24:47 UTC No. 15957604
>>15957565
IS /SFG/ AFRAID OF THE AMERICAN FUTURE??? HOW PATHETIC.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 06:26:29 UTC No. 15957607
>>15957565
how about a zero-g strip club instead?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 06:29:20 UTC No. 15957611
>>15957607
With black jack and hookers? Yknow what, forget the strip club
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 07:26:26 UTC No. 15957651
/sfg/ died for oldspace's sins
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 07:29:50 UTC No. 15957654
>>15957651
But will oldspace die for oldspace's sins?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 07:33:38 UTC No. 15957658
>>15957654
No, and that is their greatest sin.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 07:41:21 UTC No. 15957663
>>15957411
Why is he so autisticaly fixated on Mae's?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 07:46:40 UTC No. 15957665
>>15957411
>ready for reflight in an hour
>reuse may only be daily
Elon is delusional, and Starship is making the same promises as the Shuttle, and thus is doomed to fail to deliver
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 07:49:27 UTC No. 15957666
>>15957651
>>15957654
>>15957658
This is why I come to /sfg/.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 08:01:22 UTC No. 15957677
>>15957503
>and any rupture will result in a dangerous decompression like in space.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 08:01:23 UTC No. 15957678
>>15957666
Here Satan, have a screenshot to frame it.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 08:12:15 UTC No. 15957688
>>15957350
>>15957346
Very little actual work to develop the F-1B was done, it is functionally vaporware.
The AR1 on the other hand was developed.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 08:24:42 UTC No. 15957693
>>15957665
There have already been more Starships built with flight engines than there ever were shuttles and it's still in the prototyping phase. Choke on cock.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 09:10:39 UTC No. 15957728
>>15957693
I'm pretty sure that wasn't a serious post. I hope that wasn't a serious post.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 09:16:45 UTC No. 15957735
>>15957728
I'll assume it is a serious post for a moment. In a lot of respects, he's right: Starship will, for a given moment in time, be in the same reuse boat as the Space Shuttle. The important difference between Starship and Shuttle is that Starship is privately developed, and that means they can proceed with modifications, re-engineering, and radical design efforts without seeking congressional authorization to do so. The Shuttle received a few changes over the decades, and Congress made no secret of who its favorite children were while doing so. Without being beholden to Congress, Starship has a chance to move beyond the Shuttle reuse paradigm in a way the Shuttle itself was never given the chance to.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 09:40:40 UTC No. 15957768
>>15957688
>SLS Cargo
Are there even any missions planned for that? I can't think of anything that couldn't be done with FH.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 11:02:30 UTC No. 15957836
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#The rocket is operative and ready to launch.
#t minus
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#Lift off!
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#the rocket has been launched with success towards the next /sfg/!
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 11:25:28 UTC No. 15957865
>>15957836
Kino
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 11:29:54 UTC No. 15957872
Do you think jews will set up synagogues on Mars?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 11:34:55 UTC No. 15957884
>>15957872
And for that matter christians but that one seems like a given.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 12:14:42 UTC No. 15957924
Any news on the schizodrive?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 12:19:08 UTC No. 15957927
>>15957503
>water recycling
Water is just there for the taking. You just go out with a shovel
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 12:20:57 UTC No. 15957929
>>15957503
>For all intents and purposes, building on Mars will be like building a space station
Major difference - you have resources. You can replenish air directly from the atmosphere, you don't have to close every loop. Yes it's a bit thin but it's far from hard vacuum.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 12:31:31 UTC No. 15957934
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 12:35:43 UTC No. 15957939
>>15957663
What other options do we have for relatively easy colonization? 80 atmospheres pressure worth of corrosive shit on Venus?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 14:03:20 UTC No. 15958012
>>15957939
Venus cloud colonies, but resource utilization is so much harder
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 14:07:50 UTC No. 15958016
>>15958012
>Venus cloud colonies
Because combining the shortcomings of a surface settlement and an orbital makes for such an attractive idea.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 14:10:01 UTC No. 15958017
>>15958012
>Muh cloud cities
This is space flight general, not sci-fi general.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 14:44:10 UTC No. 15958045
>>15958033
no
reformat the program to use Starship
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 14:52:55 UTC No. 15958050
>>15958012
we don't cotton to atmospheric flight in this general
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:07:17 UTC No. 15958063
>>15957329
>>15957404
>>15957411
>>15957917
When are we finally leaving this planet bros? I'm tired of all the delays.. I want to explore the galaxy, I want to leave this planet what's taking so long
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:07:35 UTC No. 15958064
>>15958063
Here's the joke, we're not.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:21:09 UTC No. 15958087
They are dismantling Starbase
It's over
https://youtu.be/1IEOoO20A10
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:24:32 UTC No. 15958093
>>15958087
lol I wonder why
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:26:55 UTC No. 15958097
>>15958093
FUBAR
It was leaking even before the first launch.
That tank farm was a massive shitshow.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:30:46 UTC No. 15958101
>>15958093
>>15958087
two more months just got tacked onto the wait for IFT-3
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:34:51 UTC No. 15958109
>>15958087
>>15958093
The dent had grown significantly last i saw. I was wondering why nobody commented on it it looked huge on the cameras.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:35:06 UTC No. 15958111
>>15958093
I remember someone saying that vertical farms were going away when the horizontal ones started arriving.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:39:51 UTC No. 15958119
>>15958117
cringe x humor
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:40:35 UTC No. 15958120
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:40:36 UTC No. 15958121
>>15958117
Yeah, fuck you to launchpad
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:40:53 UTC No. 15958122
>>15958117
>>15958120
quirky trans humor
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:42:27 UTC No. 15958124
>>15958122
boo-hoo nigger
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:43:28 UTC No. 15958125
>>15958124
ah you must be one of those trans white nationalists
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:43:55 UTC No. 15958126
>>15958122
Ya, trans planetary
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:44:05 UTC No. 15958127
>>15957345
eh, this happens to me on Earth too
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:45:18 UTC No. 15958129
So why horizontal farms better? Is it safer if rockets explode? I saw them building wall around it.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:46:41 UTC No. 15958131
>>15957735
Im reminded of that chart where space shuttle cadence was just beginning to increase exponentially and then Challenger happened and NASA was never the same again. linear cadence from then on
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:48:28 UTC No. 15958132
>>15958129
Less of a profile to be struck by flying debris, I suppose. If that's the goal just dig some big ditches and lay the tanks inside, then cover 'em up.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:49:59 UTC No. 15958134
>>15958132
its a fucking swamp
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:50:43 UTC No. 15958135
>>15957454
i appreciate eager kino above all else
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:52:10 UTC No. 15958137
>>15958134
Put a ditch liner in then.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:52:28 UTC No. 15958138
>>15958134
Not an issue.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:52:46 UTC No. 15958139
>>15958121
Just make it bigger lmao. On a serious note, is this feat of Kerbal engineering feasible?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:53:44 UTC No. 15958140
>>15957487
We could use an update fromPaul Wooster, Spacex's principal Mars development engineer. They must be close to choosing a landing site by now
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:53:56 UTC No. 15958141
>>15958139
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmf
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:54:17 UTC No. 15958142
>>15958134
so is DC and there are some pretty gnarly bunkers there
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:55:28 UTC No. 15958143
>>15958033
inject semen autistic girl
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 15:58:30 UTC No. 15958147
>>15958033
Elon should have married her. He's alone.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:00:02 UTC No. 15958148
>>15958146
ISREAL????
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:00:05 UTC No. 15958149
>>15958146
Thanks, Tory
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:00:11 UTC No. 15958150
>>15958146
i like the red
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:00:38 UTC No. 15958151
>>15958137
you need a liner and a pump and it gets annoying fast
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:00:55 UTC No. 15958152
The 2024 class of NASA NIAC advanced concept study awards are out. Time for Space to get Weird again:
www.nasa.gov/news-release/funding-f
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:01:49 UTC No. 15958154
>>15958146
something about it makes it look like a plastic toy. way moreso than other rockets
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:02:01 UTC No. 15958155
>>15957454
>calls "on hover tooltip" a toaster notification
fucking hack
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:02:06 UTC No. 15958156
>>15958138
why would you make it more complicated than it needs to be?
>>15958147
she is a bit insane and the support of trannies is what probably drove them apart
Musk doesn't want his other kids to become trannies
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:03:02 UTC No. 15958157
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:08:10 UTC No. 15958161
>>15958140
I would assume they're looking for an Equatorial area with suspected water ice permafrost. What else could they be looking for in a lading site?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:08:46 UTC No. 15958164
>>15958147
also I don't think he is alone, he is living a lot of the time at shivon zillis place (diablo streams from there for instance) and has 2 kids with her
supposedly its platonic but idk man
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:11:20 UTC No. 15958166
>>15958152
maybe 1% of these will ever see full size prototypes, so i dont even care
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:11:35 UTC No. 15958167
>>15958165
new water plate system getting installed soon I hope
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:12:19 UTC No. 15958169
ASTRO-BOT-IC
NOT
ASTRO-BIO-TIC
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:12:25 UTC No. 15958170
are we gonna see a blue flame from Vulcan or is the srb's exhaust gonna mask it?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:13:26 UTC No. 15958171
>>15958162
(A) $2 anon
NSF viewers are so dumb XD, how much is
ars 200.00 worth?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:15:08 UTC No. 15958173
>>15958170
You’ll see a red flame from the BE-4s exploding lmao
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:16:51 UTC No. 15958176
>>15958161
almost all their candidate sites are in Arcadia
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:22:10 UTC No. 15958181
>>15958159
Benus :DDDD
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:26:41 UTC No. 15958185
>>15958173
just like the raptors muskrat?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:28:35 UTC No. 15958188
wtf is the 10k year clock?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:28:56 UTC No. 15958190
>>15958185
Sorry I can't hear you over all this winning
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:30:16 UTC No. 15958191
>>15958154
It's the Fisher Price tier decals. Destination Flavor Town.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:30:24 UTC No. 15958192
https://www.youtube.com/live/xi78Xd
GET THE FFFFUCK IN HERE
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:32:32 UTC No. 15958195
>>15958190
>propulsion reports first stage nominal
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:33:57 UTC No. 15958197
>>15958192
kek they are wrapping up the stream already keeeeeeek
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:34:31 UTC No. 15958198
>>15958190
this thing looks so stupid, how can you even cheer for this?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:34:46 UTC No. 15958200
>first time rocket
>first time engines
>first time second stage
>a lunar lander from a commercial company
Nothing is gonna go wrong, is it?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:36:06 UTC No. 15958203
>>15958200
no. adults actually test their stuff BEFORE they fly it. you watch. remember NASA never had a critical failure on the first flight of shuttle, or the second, or the third. You get it done RIGHT if you take your time and are sensible.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:36:40 UTC No. 15958206
>>15958200
I don't know which would be funnier, vulcan fucking up somewhere or everything going flawlessly. the only boring outcome would be it working up until decent burn and then crashing on the moon
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:37:19 UTC No. 15958208
>>15958203
>adults
is /sfg/ gonna finish their homework before Monday?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:37:23 UTC No. 15958209
>>15958201
You'd never see an official spacex starship maze and coloring book. Boeing knows how to do outreach
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:38:51 UTC No. 15958211
>>15958200
The lander will certainly fail at least
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:44:49 UTC No. 15958216
>>15958201
They know their audience
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:46:11 UTC No. 15958220
>>15958209
Boeing is not ULA
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:49:20 UTC No. 15958226
>>15958220
They haven't been sold yet, so they're still 50% boing.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:50:19 UTC No. 15958228
>>15958226
boing! boing! boing!
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:51:34 UTC No. 15958229
>>15958171
ARS is Argentine Pesos. ARS200 comes out to about $0.25
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 16:57:32 UTC No. 15958233
>>15958226
Right, but Boeing has very limited say in the day-to-day of ULA operations
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:03:50 UTC No. 15958243
>>15958208
DONE
not easy on my phone
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:11:59 UTC No. 15958250
>>15958208
can I get a gold star sticker?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:13:38 UTC No. 15958253
Vulcan
MONDAY
MONDAY
MONDAY
Will it stay or will it go?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:16:48 UTC No. 15958255
we need a policy of a radio silent earth
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:17:18 UTC No. 15958256
>>15958250
>>15958243
now you are certified ULA engineers
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:17:19 UTC No. 15958257
>>15958255
Just dome the earth
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:29:20 UTC No. 15958270
>>15958117
Redditroon meme kill yourself YWNBAW
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:29:39 UTC No. 15958271
>>15958261
What's the point if they dont launch every 5min? 1 vulcan/sls launch per year or even per month is woefully insufficient
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:32:20 UTC No. 15958273
>>15958117
Honestly hilarious
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:39:08 UTC No. 15958278
It's going to fail and ULA is going to get sold to below orbit
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:40:06 UTC No. 15958279
>>15958159
Now this is a Rube Goldberg mission architecture I can appreciate. Save the wacky robot shenanigans for Venus - Mars is for astronauts digging and building on site.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:42:38 UTC No. 15958281
>>15958271
SLS per month would be better than Apollo cadence. I wouldn't even be mad.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:53:28 UTC No. 15958286
BO will sabotage Vulcan launch with their engine just so they could buy out ULA for scraps
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:53:51 UTC No. 15958287
>>15958281
hell, I'd be happy with SLS if it flew 3 times a year and had a cost per launch equal to inflation adjusted saturn v. my bar for nasa's performance is under ground
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:55:18 UTC No. 15958290
>>15958270
>REEEEEE REDDIT REEEE!!!!!
I urge you to consider self harm
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 17:58:26 UTC No. 15958293
kek imagine using hydromeme on a car
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lU
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:10:43 UTC No. 15958303
>>15957404
Who will be purchasing these flights?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:12:47 UTC No. 15958304
>>15958273
Honestly though, what's the next step in heavy launch? Strapping some SH boosters onto a SH/SS stack seems like an easy (relatively) next step
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:13:22 UTC No. 15958305
>>15958261
The second stage looks oddly beefy, like the rest of the rocket looks smooth and polished but Centaur has little greebles in it and a slightly different color
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:17:51 UTC No. 15958307
>>15958304
18 meter fuckship
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:18:15 UTC No. 15958308
>>15958303
no one, these are needed for building the mars colony
maybe some other companies will tag along after the colony is far enough but I would guess SpaceX will be building it by themselves for something like 10 years at least (perhaps NASA or some entity like that buy a fraction, but its going to be insignificant)
building a mars colony is going to require massive amounts of stuff launched to LEO (on the order of 5 million tonnes) and further to Mars itself (1 million tonnes), this is going to require a massive amount of ships
so SpaceX is going to use them itself mainly for launching shit into Mars, some fraction is going to go to Starlink launches and then some unknown number to general customer launches, but how quickly the general launch market is going to grow is unknown
might be quick or might be very slow relative to what spacex itself is doing
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:20:03 UTC No. 15958311
>people think spacex is going to lose their lawsuit
lol
lmfao
LOL
never bet against mars
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:20:55 UTC No. 15958313
>>15958305
>>15958271
>Tory Bruno, ULA's CEO, stated that the Vulcan's Centaur 5 will have 40% more endurance and two and a half times more energy than the upper stage ULA currently flies. "But that’s just the tip of the iceberg," Bruno elaborated. "I'm going to be pushing up to 450, 500, 600 times the endurance over just the next handful of years. That will enable a whole new set of missions that you cannot even imagine doing today.
TLDR: Centaur is going to be absolutely NUTS for deep space missions
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:21:07 UTC No. 15958314
>>15958117
Who need a planetary crust anyway?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:21:26 UTC No. 15958315
>>15957487
>SpaceX's plans for Mars once they actually get there
zozzle
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:22:55 UTC No. 15958316
>>15958313
someone should stick centaur into starship as a third stage
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:24:38 UTC No. 15958318
>>15958316
>someone
oh it will be stuck onto a rocket
just not the rocket you think
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:26:46 UTC No. 15958321
>>15958314
It'll be fiiiine. Just build an actual launch pad/ pull a soyuz and hang it off a ledge
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:29:12 UTC No. 15958322
>>15958318
could a swappable second/third stage make sense?
use centaur for interplanetary missions or whatever
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:33:27 UTC No. 15958327
>>15958323
sure, and Antarctica has a material value of $50 quintillion. go mine that up
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:37:03 UTC No. 15958333
>>15958322
I think that's what China is doing: 2 stages for LEO/SSO missions (but the 2nd stage is not reusable like Starship, instead its like Saturn V's S-II). The LH2/LOX 3rd stage can fit inside the fairing like Titan IV
for Starship I think Musk already said somewhere they're not doing a kick stage/upper stage and instead will go the orbital refueling route as they're aiming for fast turnaround
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:38:37 UTC No. 15958335
>>15958333
space tugs and the like are going to function as kick stages, either re-usable or expendable
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:39:52 UTC No. 15958339
>>15958313
>40% more endurance, 250% more energy
>eventually 60000% more endurance
??? What the FUCK is he talking about
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:40:51 UTC No. 15958342
>>15958261
Except ULA is worthless. Even if Vulcan launches fine, what's the fucking point. Falcon 9 will still be cheaper by significant margins. Literally only the business case is "oh no we don't want a monopoly". What a waste of money Vulcan is.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:41:55 UTC No. 15958345
>>15958323
this chart is absolutely awful and asteroid mining is a farce
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:44:45 UTC No. 15958350
>>15958342
I want ULA and blue origin to do as well as they set out to achieve. rooting for them to fail because their goals are not as lofty as spacex's is spiteful and naïve
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:47:12 UTC No. 15958351
total oldspace death
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:47:49 UTC No. 15958352
>>15958350
Blue Origin is probably going to just buy ULA at this rate.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:48:56 UTC No. 15958354
https://payloadspace.com/nasa-funds
>A few highlights: The projects funded in this batch of Phase I awards include:
> A Venus sample return concept led by Geoff Landis at NASA’s Glenn Research Center
> A new method do detoxify water on Mars for human consumption led by Lynn Rothschild at NASA Ames
> A nuclear-powered rocket design by James Bickford at the Charles Stark Draper Laboratory
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:51:00 UTC No. 15958361
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
> It's nearly time. After years of delays, billions of dollars in federal funding, and a spectacular second-stage explosion, the large and impressive Vulcan rocket is finally ready to take flight.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:52:15 UTC No. 15958362
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:53:46 UTC No. 15958367
> Jeff Bezos (right), the founder of Blue Origin and Amazon.com, and Tory Bruno, CEO of United Launch Alliance, display a small-scale version of the BE-4 rocket engine during a press conference in 2014.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:54:38 UTC No. 15958368
>>15958361
It's over for ULA. I look forward to BO buying up ULA.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 18:54:51 UTC No. 15958369
> Jeff Bezos (right), the founder of Blue Origin and Amazon.com, and Tory Bruno, CEO of United Launch Alliance, display a small-scale version of the BE-4 rocket engine during a press conference in 2014.
10 years
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 19:01:02 UTC No. 15958375
>>15958369
>10 years
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 19:02:04 UTC No. 15958378
> A new owner could invigorate ULA. Over the last two decades, Lockheed and Boeing have mostly pulled profits out of ULA rather than investing in the company. Worse than that, the parents have stymied innovation efforts at ULA for competitive reasons. For example, Lockheed halted an internal effort to develop a XEUS commercial lunar lander because it interfered with its own lunar lander plans. Boeing blocked efforts to develop propellant depots to store cryogenic fuels in space because it worried refueled launch vehicles would compete with the Space Launch System rocket.
kind of retarded
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 19:03:05 UTC No. 15958380
> "We had released a series of papers showing how a depot/refueling architecture would enable a human exploration program using existing (at the time) commercial rockets," a former ULA physicist, George Sowers, has said. "Boeing became furious and tried to get me fired. Kudos to my CEO for protecting me. But we were banned from even saying the 'd' word out loud. Sad part is that ULA did a lot of pathfinding work in that area and could have owned the refueling/depot market, enriching Boeing (and Lockheed) in the process. But it was shut down because it threatened SLS."
> But we were banned from even saying the 'd' word out loud
lmao
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 19:04:05 UTC No. 15958381
>>15958378
If BO buys ULA then everything ULA would just die eventually, I mean Vulcan has no reason to exist if NG flies.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 19:04:39 UTC No. 15958382
https://spacenews.com/china-complet
> The first launch pad at Hainan Commercial Launch Site was completed Dec. 29. It is the first of two pads which will host liquid propellant launch vehicles.
> The new launch pads could help China to transition away from older hypergolic rockets. It could help reduce incidents of booster debris falling around inhabited areas following launches from the country’s inland spaceports of Jiuquan, Taiyuan and Xichang.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRZ
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 19:05:53 UTC No. 15958384
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 19:07:49 UTC No. 15958389
https://europeanspaceflight.com/rfa
> The RFA response came on 14 December with the company announcing that its vehicle will now be capable of delivering 4,000 kilograms to low Earth orbit and, with the assistance of an inflatable atmospheric decelerator, returning 4,000 kilograms back to Earth. The announcement concluded with the phrase, “Argo was designed for heavy lifting.”
>While the company’s Argo vehicle can now answer ESA’s updated call, it remains to be seen whether or not RFA can deliver on the project before the 2028 launch deadline.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 19:09:05 UTC No. 15958392
>>15958389
Deliver cargo to what and where exactly?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 19:15:26 UTC No. 15958400
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
Small Rockets
> Firefly's fourth launch puts payload in wrong orbit
> Australian startup nears first launch. (Eris rocket, 300kg to LEO)
Medium Rockets
> A commander's lament on the loss of a historic SpaceX booster.
> SpaceX opens 2024 campaign with a new kind of Starlink satellite.
> Chinese booster lands near homes.
> Launch date set for next H3 test flight (Feb 14 US time, Feb 15 in Japan)
> India's PSLV launches first space mission of 2024.
> Mixed crews will continue flying to the International Space Station
Heavy Rockets
> SpaceX sets new records to close out 2023.
> Elon Musk says SpaceX needs to built a lot of Starships.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 19:16:27 UTC No. 15958402
>>15958392
ISS or its successor I guess
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 19:41:27 UTC No. 15958423
>>15957768
Europa Clipper was before losing to FH, other than that it is just nuclear cores for big NEP spacecraft
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 20:07:18 UTC No. 15958463
>>15955644
I don't think you realize how many people they will need to manufacture hundreds of starships, tens of boosters, and thousands of raptors per year. Plus the amount of people they will need to construct the off-shore launch platforms and be involved in operations for each of them. By 2030 SpaceX will probably have like 20-30k employees at least.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 20:23:16 UTC No. 15958490
>>15958477
how nice of Musk to help his African brethren!
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 20:24:36 UTC No. 15958492
>>15958477
is funding the mars colony really worth letting mozambiqians have internet access?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 20:32:38 UTC No. 15958507
if your torch drive fails when you need to slow down, are you screwed?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 20:36:58 UTC No. 15958516
>>15958492
if this helps mozambiqueans stay in mozambique then its good
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 20:46:34 UTC No. 15958543
>>15958507
Yes, and this is the case when your main propulsion fails ahead of any critical burn BEO.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 20:48:13 UTC No. 15958550
>>15958507
You and the planet you're going to hit at relativistic speeds are screwed.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:01:30 UTC No. 15958569
https://www.theblaze.com/news/space
SpaceX sues the US National Labor Board and wants it to be dismantled for being unconstitutional. Musk aiming for the throat of corrupt officials and their livelihood
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:02:42 UTC No. 15958574
>>15958569
nawwww :skull: musk is going full hitlerian fascist alt right mode fr fr
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:16:24 UTC No. 15958595
https://chrisprophet.substack.com/p
> Instead of exploiting its monopoly on commercial launch, SpaceX have evolved a more practical approach to space development, effectively clearing away dead wood to encourage new growth. Their ever increasing income has allowed them to undertake inordinately ambitious projects like Starship and Starlink, designed to stimulate and accelerate an emerging space economy.
>They say: “with great power comes great responsibility,” something SpaceX seem willing to shoulder given their strategy to support anyone involved in space expansion. Yes, they are extremely successful but seem committed to taking us higher and the antidote to legacy launch lethargy.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:19:06 UTC No. 15958598
>>15958017
>>15958016
Launching directly from Venus surface is impossible due to atmospheric friction losses. If you want to exploit the surface, you'll need a platform near the top of the atmosphere to float up to and launch from ie a cloud city
For Cytherean planets, cloud cities are an essential stepping stone to orbit.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:20:32 UTC No. 15958600
>>15958595
It does sometimes feel like I am living in a fantasy, if someone told five years old me there would be a giant satellite constellation made by a single startup rocket company then.. I'd believe it because I believed a lot of impossible things back then, like a generational starship beginning construction in 2025 hahhahahaha...
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:21:26 UTC No. 15958603
>>15958550
Space Navy will take you out
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:21:42 UTC No. 15958604
Can we see more RocketGirls?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:22:39 UTC No. 15958608
>>15958595
why are the starship gridfins folded? that's an artistic mistake I see all the time
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:23:04 UTC No. 15958609
>>15958604
https://twitter.com/sbarky38
this guy makes them
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:23:44 UTC No. 15958612
>>15958607
pajeet
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:24:03 UTC No. 15958613
>>15958354
Is there a way to get past NIAC final reports? There was one from 2021 about extracting oxygen from Mars atmosphere using special adsorbents, but the report wasn't available
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:25:24 UTC No. 15958614
>>15958608
that pic is from 2022, no chines on super heavy either and I think starship itself is too pointy?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:26:18 UTC No. 15958616
>>15958604
here u go. H3-chan hugs Vulcan-chan
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:29:00 UTC No. 15958618
>>15958616
SuperHeavy and Starship chans kicking the shit out of H3, Vulcan, Ariane 6 and New Glenn
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:29:09 UTC No. 15958619
>>15958616
>>15958609
Imagine if every rocket had an AI personality installed
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:30:42 UTC No. 15958621
>>15958609
ebin
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:32:18 UTC No. 15958622
>>15958616
Imagine being hugged by a failure
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:34:35 UTC No. 15958624
Every time i play kerbal space program i only stick myself to suborbital flights, i just make a simple one stage rocket and then make the capsule land.
I swear i never went beyond earth's orbit, am i playing the game incorrectly?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:35:26 UTC No. 15958625
>>15958609
UUOOOOHHH
MAX-QUTE
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:35:42 UTC No. 15958626
>>15958624
No you are playing like someone with decades of experience in the space industry would, suborbital is safe and a great way to gain valuable science and tourism done
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:36:42 UTC No. 15958628
>>15958609
More on the way, stay tuned
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:36:43 UTC No. 15958629
>>15958624
you lack the Faustian sprit desu
this is basically how every normie plays the game anyone, especially the big gamer YouTubers back in the day
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:37:51 UTC No. 15958631
I can't get over those dinky SRBs on Vulcan.
I know that their performance contribution is enormous but they look so ridiculous.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:42:36 UTC No. 15958636
>>15958628
heh, now I'm imagining the formation of ULA as a "NOW KISS!!" moment from two girls that hate each other.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:45:01 UTC No. 15958642
>>15958628
I love vulcan. she pretty and going to the MOOON
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:46:11 UTC No. 15958644
>>15958631
not reusable, yuck
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:46:32 UTC No. 15958645
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:48:11 UTC No. 15958646
>>15958644
she is refurbishable. she is SMART
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:48:44 UTC No. 15958648
>>15958604
>>15958609
He used to post here
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:51:24 UTC No. 15958651
>>15958642
LSPs really need to give their rockets fancy paint jobs more often
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:51:35 UTC No. 15958652
>>15958323
has anyone ever calculated the value of the earth?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:52:47 UTC No. 15958654
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:54:02 UTC No. 15958656
>>15958382
If Taiwan wasn't so gay it would already have a few launchpads too, perfect location
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:54:24 UTC No. 15958657
>>15958654
mid and kinda ugly ngl
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:55:51 UTC No. 15958659
>>15958492
>>15958490
internet access = lower fertility = fewer Africans
this is very important
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 21:57:30 UTC No. 15958661
>>15958646
Vulcan does not actually have SMART reuse.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:00:40 UTC No. 15958664
>>15958657
yeah i agree, idk why the guy made it. he doesnt seem to make rocket girls much
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:01:54 UTC No. 15958667
>>15958661
she does tho, tory said so
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:11:04 UTC No. 15958675
Clear got a shoutout at a JAXA press conference
https://twitter.com/clearusui/statu
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:11:04 UTC No. 15958676
>>15958380
Total old space death
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:12:24 UTC No. 15958680
>>15958674
Only in flight footage
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:16:09 UTC No. 15958685
>>15958675
clear(ly) a man
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:17:33 UTC No. 15958687
>>15958675
which one is clear?
or do they run it jointly
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:18:51 UTC No. 15958688
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:20:02 UTC No. 15958692
>>15958688
>ifunny
keeeek soiteens whats this?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:23:54 UTC No. 15958700
>>15958648
Let me guess. This place scared him away.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:26:15 UTC No. 15958704
>>15958683
No atmosphere = not a planet
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:26:34 UTC No. 15958705
>>15958700
it's Astranon actually
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:28:19 UTC No. 15958707
>>15958704
too much atmosphere = also not a planet, believe it or not
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:29:33 UTC No. 15958713
So what happens to Vulcan if New Glenn actually becomes operation later this year and possibly Terran-R next year?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:30:47 UTC No. 15958716
>>15958704
You're demonstrably wrong. Even the Moon is a planet
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:36:36 UTC No. 15958718
>>15958713
ULA is still gonna win a majority of the government contracts bc reasons
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:39:59 UTC No. 15958720
>>15958713
Firefly's MLV will btfo all of them
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:40:21 UTC No. 15958722
>>15958361
https://twitter.com/torybruno/statu
the berger post is about the article I am replying to
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:43:52 UTC No. 15958726
>>15958713
Then Vulcan doesn't really have a much of career past the end of it's current slate of national security obligations.
Vulcan does have an advantage in that New Glenn is closer to Falcon Heavy in performance which makes it a better fit for GEO/Lunar missions or max capacity constellation building flights. There are going to be smaller missions that don't need to pay extra for all of that performance and are more comfortable on a cheaper Vulcan VC0 or VC2, but there aren't going to be too many of those given that Falcon 9 still exists as a cheaper option and there are other reusables like Neutron and Nova competing to drive down launch costs. There's also the problem that a lot of a rocket's price is determined by how often it flies, and if Vulcan doesn't hit the double digit cadence that Tory's talked about it's sticker price might start to rise just like the Delta IV and Titan's did.
>>15958720
Easy shoe-in for the third big spot in NSSL-3 if Blue Origin eats ULA's place.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:46:02 UTC No. 15958727
>>15958146
weight thrust on this bad boy compared to SS? could superheavy launch cargo directly to moon?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:46:06 UTC No. 15958729
>>15958716
If space comes right up to your doorstep, you're not on a planet, you're still in space. No atmosphere, no planet.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:48:30 UTC No. 15958734
>>15958729
I don't have my own atmosphere, am I in space?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 22:56:57 UTC No. 15958742
>>15958261
It's as good of a time as any to drop this prediction ahead of Jan 8's Vulcan Centaur launch!
SpaceX bros, you might want to grab a drink for this one.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:00:35 UTC No. 15958752
>>15958734
No, but you would be, except for your good fortune to live on a planet. If you lived on Mercury you'd be in space. The hard vacuum and solar wind would come right up to your face.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:01:28 UTC No. 15958754
>>15958742
almost none of the predictions have deadlines except HLS failing to launch up to 2027
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:02:44 UTC No. 15958757
>>15958742
>that flag and symbol
lol
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:04:27 UTC No. 15958763
>>15958757
its a tranny with severe EDS, I would wager its much much worse now than it was the time of that posting which is now 1,5 years ago
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:05:35 UTC No. 15958765
>>15958742
>A semi-regular presence is established on Gateway
How? The only proposed way for astronauts to get to Gateway is on SLS and that's only flying once a year at best. One week per year is not "semi-regular."
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:07:09 UTC No. 15958769
>>15958765
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_
and Vulcan ACES
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:07:32 UTC No. 15958770
>>15958758
Send in the boys, one last time
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:08:59 UTC No. 15958771
>>15958131
yeah the hole left by the space shuttle is real
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:09:23 UTC No. 15958772
>>15958769
that isn't going to happen
SLS is absolute garbage even if SpaceX ceased to exist
vulcan aces is perhaps a bit more ralistic but if ULA gets bought out then why would they continue to develop that?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:13:06 UTC No. 15958778
>>15958769
>>15958772
For all the mad shit people throw at refueling on Starship, the skepticism is at least partially warranted towards ACES, if only because liquid hydrogen is an absolute motherfucker at the best of times.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:16:24 UTC No. 15958783
>>15958722
Oh no no no
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:17:44 UTC No. 15958784
>>15958778
BO has their own program for long term hydrogen depots and so on with zero boiloff
maybe they could use something developed for ACES if they actually have something but doesn't really seem like they have done much at all
it has been proposed but there has not been much interest
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:21:05 UTC No. 15958789
>>15958784
No they don't. LMAO. NASA threw a book at them for not having any plans for hydrogen boil off. In fact the book they threw at BO was the SpaceX's well documented plans to mitigate boil off plans.
HLS source select document has that info lmao. Along with the fact that the other company whatever it was called that I dont remember now, having negative mass for moon.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:23:02 UTC No. 15958792
>>15958772
It's technically possible. Orion is right at the upper limit of what the VC6 can get to LEO, and a fully refueled Centaur V has more than enough dV to get Orion to whatever lunar orbit it wants. It's just a question of how you want to handle the depot architecture and how many Vulcans it will take to pull off. If you're just refueling a Centaur V/Orion from stretched Centaurs you could probably do it in three VC6 launches. Or you could do it in two launches if you rejected the idea of refueling and sent a Centaur up on a New Glenn. Or you could forget about docking too and just launch Orion on a three stage New Glenn/Centaur V stack.
It sucks that none of these things are ever going to happen.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:26:36 UTC No. 15958798
>>15958784
I'm not worried about boiloff. I'm worried about the cryogenic transfer valves. Even on Earth, those things are the leading cause of scrubs and delays, and you can't walk over and fix a depot's cryo valves.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:26:40 UTC No. 15958799
>>15958722
is musk aware of whats under his own posts?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:28:59 UTC No. 15958801
>>15958778
that and oldspace launch cadence meaning any delay or failed tanker launch would basically doom an entire mission
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:30:44 UTC No. 15958803
>>15958339
"endurance" is "time on orbit where the upper stage still works and isn't dead"
it measures how long you can wait between your orbit circulization burns and your departure burns
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:31:38 UTC No. 15958805
>>15958789
they do, I'm not saying they are far along with that but their architecture depends on zero-or low boiloff hydrogen depots
blue lander is going to need refueling and there is going to be a special spacetug that does that refueling, developed by lockheed or something
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:39:01 UTC No. 15958812
>>15958809
> relax, this is pro Bruno
>*gets pickpocketed*
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:43:22 UTC No. 15958820
>>15957487
>plans are for Mars
its a meme to hype up soiboys soigapes. Including reddit space mand Musk. Its as cold as antarctica and dry as sahara. With 1% of earfs atmo and no magnetosphere to protect the planet from spicy particles coming in from space.
At best you will see research and prospecting outposts for decades doing geological surveys. Then first ore extractions built around discovered deposits. Rest of industry slowly following with factories and associated support structures to refine the shit into anything usable. Lunar surface (moon) has more potential for space industrialization then Mars will have for a long time.
Real value of the superheavy lifters is getting mass tonnage cheap to LEO. There you can build anything you want to go anywhere you want in whatever configuration you want. Like lets say nuclear propolsion based around nuclear detonations
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:55:46 UTC No. 15958836
>>15958598
the initial phases of Operation Bespin are underway as we speak
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jan 2024 23:58:27 UTC No. 15958841
>>15958820
Your weird reddit obsession aside, from what I've heard, Mars is much more attractive from an ISRU standpoint than the moon in every regard except for how long it takes to get there. You can literally make fuel from the atmosphere. There's also at least some radiation shielding from that thin atmosphere and more importantly, it regulates planetary temps. On the moon, you bake for weeks and then freeze for weeks, but mars has a 24hr day.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 00:22:43 UTC No. 15958872
>>15958820
>no magnetosphere
Irrelevant
You out yourself as a pseud
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 00:24:38 UTC No. 15958876
>>15958841
yes mars is much more attractive, its not really an exaggeration to say the moon has nothing at all and mars has everything
the moon might have some small deposits of water in some very specific spots in polar lunar craters and miniscule amounts in the regolith trapped inside crystals with the water created from radiation, mars has kilometer deep ice caps and like 50% of the planet has permafrost with quite high water content (something like 10%)
the moon has no atmosphere, mars has CO2, nitrogen and argon semi-easily accessible and through the CO2 you can easily create O2 though on the moon you have the permanently shadowed polar craters that function as vapor traps, so there is water and other volatiles like methane, ammonia, carbon dioxide and and carbon monoxide
the moon has had no watercycles, so the regolith is just mostly undifferentiated rock, you can get a lot of metals but it is very energy demanding to extract, in mars you have had water cycles so you have concentration of metals in some places and richer deposits like on earth
the moon is subjected to a month long "day", so two weeks of darkness, so solar power will be that much more difficult to use
mars has a 25h long day, should be relatively easy to use solar power (though the irradiance is lower due to further distance from the sun than the moon)
perhaps the vapor traps on the moon are easier to mine than the atmosphere on mars and finding water there, who knows
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 00:42:57 UTC No. 15958903
>>15958902
>ESA
Automatically worthless.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 00:45:55 UTC No. 15958906
>>15958903
seemed to actually be a showcase of european launcher startups than about esa
kind of misleading pic title and initial pic
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 00:54:04 UTC No. 15958916
>>15958323
>no Psyche
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 00:55:49 UTC No. 15958917
>>15958381
Vulcan still makes sense as a stopgap until NG gets first stage reuse working, especially Vulcan+SMART.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 01:01:06 UTC No. 15958926
>>15957693
>>15957735
falcon 9 has already basically gone beyond the shuttle's reuse paradigm. starship already avoids basically all of the known pitfalls of the shuttle and can be rapidly iterated as you pointed out, unlike the shuttle.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 01:05:29 UTC No. 15958930
>>15958820
>muh radiation
yeah you're not a serious person
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 01:06:40 UTC No. 15958932
>>15958926
>starship already avoids basically all of the known pitfalls of the shuttle
Not the tiles though.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 01:07:23 UTC No. 15958933
>>15957917
he seems excited
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 01:08:54 UTC No. 15958934
>>15958156
well redditors are mad at her for following some white nationalist anon accounts on twitter so maybe she doesn't
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 01:10:20 UTC No. 15958937
>>15958934
grimes supposedly dated some tranny after musk
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 01:11:24 UTC No. 15958940
>>15958195
yet on ift2 all engines worked through the entirety of the booster's flight regime
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 01:13:56 UTC No. 15958947
>>15958932
>no FOD damage from orange death fuzz
>simple cylindrical geometry and flat flaps allows much more uniform tiling
>mechanical attachment instead of fucking glue
>stainless steel underneath has a much higher melting point than aluminum
It actually does fix most of the tile problems.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 01:14:11 UTC No. 15958948
>>15958933
What's he drawing?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 01:16:35 UTC No. 15958952
>>15958948
Stick figures in the bottom corner of each page so when you flip through it fast he shoots himself
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 01:20:06 UTC No. 15958961
>>15958354
One of them was a breakthrough starshot style proposal
https://www.nasa.gov/general/swarmi
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 01:21:00 UTC No. 15958966
>>15958117
>Superheavy Booster alone is an SSTO
>dock SSTO superheavy to standard launch starship
>refuel
>fire a massive "YOU WILL NEVER BE A HUMAN" at oumuamua
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 01:25:30 UTC No. 15958976
>>15958952
kek
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 01:30:14 UTC No. 15958982
>>15958063
Late 2100s, after 4 more global cycles of strong men-good times.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 01:30:46 UTC No. 15958984
>>15958799
what does persuade mountain motivate kinkajou mean?
or lead wallaby movie keep?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 01:31:48 UTC No. 15958987
>>15958932
the tiles were really only an issue because A they were placed in such a way that they could receive damage and B they were a pain in the ass to repair.
starship should have both of those fixed
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 01:33:53 UTC No. 15958991
>>15958932
worst case scenario, the tiles can probably be replaced by an ablation based heat shield that could last several dozen launches at least, or some form of non-ablation based heat shielding that is more heavy. maybe starship will only be able to carry 100 tonnes to leo and not 150 because of it. but the program would still work.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 01:35:28 UTC No. 15958993
>>15958991
and i have faith that spacex can solve the tile problem considering they solved the raptor reliability problem.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 01:36:27 UTC No. 15958995
https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2024
got info originally from
https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/st
> - Tuesday, Dish Network, yet again, filed a petition for the FCC to reconsider its decision to allow SpaceX and T-Mobile to test their Direct-to-Cell Starlinks. They say is because of the potential for harmful interference in adjacent bands in which it operates its own satellite systems.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 01:48:46 UTC No. 15959018
>>15958659
based
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 01:55:52 UTC No. 15959023
>>15958799
hey how did they get my passwords?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 02:10:40 UTC No. 15959044
>>15958087
>>15958093
Duck and cover tank farm when?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 02:19:44 UTC No. 15959052
>>15958995
Hoping the current admin will stop SpaceX
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 02:33:04 UTC No. 15959071
>>15958729
nope
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 02:35:11 UTC No. 15959074
>>15958742
betting against spacex is not wise
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 02:37:20 UTC No. 15959078
>>15959074
It's not foolish to bet against unsound methods (full reuse via Falcon), but betting against them figuring out a way to do what they want (full reuse TSTO architecture of any kind) is a bad idea.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 02:37:52 UTC No. 15959079
>>15958885
What is an example of a patent blocking trolls for SpaceX
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 02:38:21 UTC No. 15959080
>>15958758
you've gotta be shitting me
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 02:38:45 UTC No. 15959081
>>15959023
its over
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 02:40:37 UTC No. 15959085
>>15958803
oh so it's a new made up marketing metric like how small sats launchers talked about being the uber of lift and how customers would choose them because rideshare was like dirty public transport. "last mile" blah blah blah
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 02:42:33 UTC No. 15959090
>>15958799
bots paying $11/m?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 02:44:38 UTC No. 15959092
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 02:45:39 UTC No. 15959094
>>15959079
BO trying to patent booster landing on a ship
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 03:00:40 UTC No. 15959114
>>15959090
mario game?
spaceX is best musk #1
if Mario then only bros
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 03:04:11 UTC No. 15959119
>>15958683
Imagine seeing this peak from eye level.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 03:54:58 UTC No. 15959173
>>15958885
tranny flags and retarded opinions go together like nachos and salsa
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 04:01:46 UTC No. 15959177
>>15958333
First thing I thought of when I saw this
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 04:11:28 UTC No. 15959190
>>15959175
hypergol reaction breathing enjoyers
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 04:15:55 UTC No. 15959196
>>15959175
scam
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 04:19:33 UTC No. 15959201
>>15959175
Yeah, because what the 150kg to LEO market really needed to revolutionize itself was a hypergolic Electron. At least the propellant combo doesn't seem quite as bad as UDMH/NTO. I'm sure FWS is going to love reviewing this thing.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 04:21:29 UTC No. 15959204
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ1
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 04:28:53 UTC No. 15959212
>>15959204
most normal aerospace company in ohio :skull:
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 04:44:53 UTC No. 15959224
>>15958313
>'energy'
Tonnage to each orbit, yes or no?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 04:50:10 UTC No. 15959230
>>15958157
"quick, Tory! three words that could never be used to describe your sex life!"
Astranon at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 04:51:13 UTC No. 15959232
>>15959175
Pythom is an industry punchline. Even after LV0008 we were laughing at them. They're fucking ARCA tier.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 04:52:03 UTC No. 15959235
>>15958261
>I for one think it's a good thing america has more than 1 launch service provider
please name two
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 04:53:22 UTC No. 15959237
>>15959175
Scam, that have like 3 employees on LinkedIn
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 04:53:45 UTC No. 15959238
spacerafts cant even go to the moon now lol
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 04:56:24 UTC No. 15959240
>>15958659
we need to provide niggers with video games immediately
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 04:56:58 UTC No. 15959242
>>15959235
SpaceX and Rocket Lab (they do Virginia launches now)
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 04:57:47 UTC No. 15959244
>>15959235
rocketlab
relativity
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 04:59:50 UTC No. 15959246
Shut the fuck up
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 05:06:24 UTC No. 15959254
>>15959240
last thing i want to hear in my lobby is
>ayo bruh we gotta rizz up the latinx gyatts in fortnite fr fr no cap in ohio L rizz in chat bluds
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 05:07:17 UTC No. 15959256
>>15959254
They're on a different server it's ok
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 05:07:54 UTC No. 15959257
>>15959235
SpaceX
United Launch Alliance
Blue Origin
Relativity Space
Rocket Lab
Firefly
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 05:15:08 UTC No. 15959262
maybe the FAA should spend more effort with boeing instead of spacex
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 05:16:15 UTC No. 15959263
>>15959262
but Boeing is going
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 05:18:40 UTC No. 15959267
>>15959263
going to kill humans on their plane
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 05:20:39 UTC No. 15959268
>>15959254
Actual africans are hilarious. You could probably get a decent percentage to panic quit a game by pretending to put a hex on them.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 05:49:49 UTC No. 15959289
please dont be mad, but oft-3 is going to be...a little bit delayed
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 06:01:13 UTC No. 15959302
>>15959289
Source? Oh its your ass okay I see
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 06:04:12 UTC No. 15959306
>>15959302
i am not allowed to reveal anything that would materially impact our stock value...
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 06:07:36 UTC No. 15959308
>>15959306
And this just confirms you're a fraud. SpaceX is not publicly traded.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 06:08:58 UTC No. 15959311
>>15959306
>boomer ellipses
They should chain you under the OLM during the next static fire.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 06:09:50 UTC No. 15959314
>>15959306
Understood, Elon, thank you
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 06:38:52 UTC No. 15959352
>>15959308
Larpers are retards 99% of the time.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 07:03:23 UTC No. 15959369
>>15958966
>Ayy lmao
Real talk, if SpaceX gets to the point where they're setting up a starbase/factory on Mars, there'll be no FAA or FWS around to stop them from making funny shit like that. Quick and easy dome excavation with each launch
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 07:09:27 UTC No. 15959379
>>15958624
Jeff bezos sign my profile
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 07:23:47 UTC No. 15959393
>the japanese moon landing attempt is in
TWO
MORE
WEEKS
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 07:25:02 UTC No. 15959394
>>15959018
rip sir
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 07:27:04 UTC No. 15959397
>>15959393
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU RUINED IT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR 4 DAYS TO MAKE THIS POST AND I JUST SAW THEY FINALLY POSTED THE IMAGE
anyways
TWO WEEKS
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 07:31:53 UTC No. 15959399
>>15959393
>>15959397
why is it taking so long
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 07:49:52 UTC No. 15959410
>>15958876
sure, mars is better for space colonisation but we are far away of having the technology to run a self sustaining mars colony which can grow on its own and it might be not even possible because of the health consequences of the low gravity. at least the moon has some use cases which could make economical sense like propellant production or microgravity manufacturing. or is there any reason to go to mars beside curiosity about mars or space colonisation?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 08:04:25 UTC No. 15959420
eating a bowl of brown sugar
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 08:18:48 UTC No. 15959435
>>15959420
Hoping you get cavities
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 08:35:38 UTC No. 15959453
>>15959410
Having a large presence on Mars will make it much easier to make a truly self-sustaining settlement on Mars whenever that technology does come about. It will also make that technology come about faster.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 08:37:30 UTC No. 15959457
Boing almost killed people, again...
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 08:42:42 UTC No. 15959467
>>15959457
More at 8
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 08:53:33 UTC No. 15959479
>>15959457
>Alaska Airlines grounds 737 Max 9 planes after window blows out mid-air
>737 Max
They are still flying that piece of shit lmao?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 08:57:09 UTC No. 15959484
>>15959457
If it's a BOING, we're going! Can't wait to hop into a starliner and experience decompression as the door rips open
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 09:06:17 UTC No. 15959489
>>15959044
are those steaming 1/4in audio cables?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 09:43:15 UTC No. 15959521
>>15959435
why?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 09:57:10 UTC No. 15959542
>>15959484
737 Max is the most cursed plane in existence.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:43:05 UTC No. 15959573
rumors that spacex is going to lose the HLS contract
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:45:09 UTC No. 15959574
>>15959573
>rumors
Started here, by you, just now, I'm sure.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:48:15 UTC No. 15959576
>>15959574
believe what you want anon
but nasa and blue have been trying to get the contract killed for a while now
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:52:02 UTC No. 15959579
rumors that you'll have a stretched hole the size of Ceres after /sfg/ is done with you
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 11:10:32 UTC No. 15959597
>>15959573
They probably have most of the HLS already designed, all they need now is to get SS to orbit and work out orbital refueling, which they're gonna do anyways. That would be even funny, if they lose the contract, but finish HLS on their own and some billionaire like Maezawa buys it. NASA astronauts will struggle to land in a National Team cuck capsule at over ten billion dollars cost, while Dear Moon 2.0 will have landed a bunch of tiktokers in a skyscraper-sized vehicle for 1% of that.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 11:21:17 UTC No. 15959609
>>15959597
the whole thing is a bit of a meme from i am hearing NASA can't even come up with payloads to fill up hls lmao
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 11:26:47 UTC No. 15959618
>>15959609
Is it so hard to designate the amount of mass/volume you're sure you won't need for universities or private companies? It would be an extremely cheap way to do a lot of research in one mission.
I'm sure I'm not the first to come up with this idea.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 11:52:59 UTC No. 15959656
>>15959609
>inb4 Musk puts a Tesla Cybertruck on the moon just for keks
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 12:04:57 UTC No. 15959669
>>15959656
Best marketing stunt since his roadster went up.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 12:16:35 UTC No. 15959683
>>15959669
Doing that would probably be the best marketing stunt he'd ever be able to do.
>we built a rocket so big that NASA didn't even know how to use it all, so we decided to send a whole truck along with them to the Moon as a complimentary gift
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 12:17:24 UTC No. 15959685
>>15959656
Lefties were already bitching about potential polution of mars when musk shot his roadster in to space.
They are going to lose their minds if he actually put a cybertruck on themoon.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 12:26:44 UTC No. 15959692
Starship has flown
Billions of Mars samples must return
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 12:37:30 UTC No. 15959704
>>15959457
airbus stays winning
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 12:42:53 UTC No. 15959708
>>15959656
it would work on the moon right? I can't think of anything that would be affected by low gravity
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 12:47:13 UTC No. 15959710
>>15959692
kek, youre deluded if you think that counts as "flying"
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 12:53:45 UTC No. 15959716
>>15959708
its the heat and dust that are the problems
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 13:11:43 UTC No. 15959726
Anyone watching For All Mankind?
The idea of a future where the Soviet beat the americans to the moon and the space race continued is cool, but reading the premise on Wikipedia sounds like this show is woke propaganda.
Shall I watch it or am I wasting my time?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 13:13:07 UTC No. 15959727
>>15959726
I think most people find the early seasons interesting if a bit heavy handed with dumb virtue signalling dreck, but it gets worse as the alternate future requires more imagination than the writers clearly have.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 13:13:54 UTC No. 15959729
>>15959726
>Anyone watching For All Mankind?
no. just waiting on anons here to put together a chud super-cut version, removing wokeshit.
I have watched Planetes, which is decent even if you don't usually watch anime content.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 13:16:08 UTC No. 15959731
>>15959656
Actually doable, the biggest problem would be the door
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 13:28:35 UTC No. 15959741
>>15959726
its fun
don't listen to the /pol/tards
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 13:30:45 UTC No. 15959746
>>15959726
It's shitty soap opera for soience crowd, don't bother.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 13:33:57 UTC No. 15959747
>>15959726
it is woke propaganda and kinda mid and then shit
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 13:34:11 UTC No. 15959748
>>15959726
the first two seasons are alright, 3 and 4 shift more towards soap opera drama bullshit but I mostly tune that out and check my phone while people talk
3 is an absolute slog to get through but 4 isn't so bad
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 13:36:48 UTC No. 15959752
>>15959726
the replies to this show how infested /sfg/ has become
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 13:36:55 UTC No. 15959753
Can someone post the infamous F a M webms? The one with the LEM and the spaceplane
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 13:38:54 UTC No. 15959757
>>15959716
Just run it slowly.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 13:41:48 UTC No. 15959761
>>15959753
Why did you write SENPAI separately?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 13:42:11 UTC No. 15959762
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 13:44:42 UTC No. 15959765
>>15959748
I dropped it at s3 e1 at the end, kind had the feeling it was going just get worse and worse
its not like s1 and s2 were great either, some cool moments I guess if you suspend your disbelief, but then 30-50% soap opera bullshit, pandering to minorities (women, black women, lesbians, gays, some immigrant mexican minorities etc)
it becomes almost like a "see we have this one here too and now you get the backstory that takes half the episode"
in season 3 it seemed like the previous protagonists have become side characters
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 13:45:40 UTC No. 15959766
>>15959762
I did it on purpose.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 13:46:55 UTC No. 15959767
>>15959765
>in season 3 it seemed like the previous protagonists have become side characters
kind of the point
its actually silly that they are still around doing missions once they are 60+
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 13:49:19 UTC No. 15959769
>>15959609
>NASA can't even come up with payloads to fill up hls lmao
Which is exactly why they should open it up for commercial payloads. Ffs make a university/college program to make payloads.
Surely it can't be hard to slap together useful payloads when there's barely any mass or dimension limits, or is Oldspace paralyzed by the sheer luxury of the HLS cargo space?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 13:51:11 UTC No. 15959770
>>15959769
just have a rover competition or something then fill it up with the best ones
doesnt matter if some of them fail
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 14:31:49 UTC No. 15959805
>>15959770
The problem is that there isn't any money for this. NASA is spending all its money on the vehicles and astronauts and sort of handwaving what science they're going to do up there. You know, just like Apollo. I'm inclined to believe the cancel HLS shitpost simply because it's less work and NASA has grown lazy as hell.
Also, don't underestimate the extent to which the second HLS is going to cuck Artemis plans. Everything going into the Starship lander has to also be sized to fit into Blorgin's.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 14:36:51 UTC No. 15959811
>>15959769
>Surely it can't be hard to slap together useful payloads when there's barely any mass or dimension limits
safety is still a concern
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 15:17:02 UTC No. 15959858
why are zoomers allowed to post on the internet?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 15:28:36 UTC No. 15959874
>>15959858
Why not?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 15:46:22 UTC No. 15959895
>>15959708
Random parts would cold weld themselves together
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 15:51:11 UTC No. 15959903
>>15959235
What are the consequences of America landing on the moon successfully?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 15:59:18 UTC No. 15959915
>>15959903
they aren’t allowed to land on the moon, the moon is sacred tribal ground.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 16:00:40 UTC No. 15959917
>>15959726
The whole premise of the show is kind of wrong, in reality america would go "well you went to the moon first, well FUCK YOU, we are going TO MARS!! you commie bastards!!!
The saturn 5 was build with a mars mission in mind anyway by vonbraun.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 16:01:39 UTC No. 15959919
>>15959726
Yes, the reason they're airing the show now is subtle propaganda for the Artemis Program.
The idea is only an Artemis alliance is allowed to do space stuff, no one else.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 16:04:29 UTC No. 15959922
>>15959915
If you haven't been to the moon then you don't get to claim parts of it.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 16:22:02 UTC No. 15959938
Good morning /sfg/
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 16:23:13 UTC No. 15959940
>>15959922
the fact this is a thing at all is so fucking ridiculous to me
these should be ignored like some insane person on the sidewalk shouting something
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 16:24:14 UTC No. 15959944
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 16:25:16 UTC No. 15959946
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 16:26:28 UTC No. 15959948
>>15959940
You can't ignore them or they'll shout "racist!" at you, and then....? I presume then boomers burst into flames like vampires in the sunlight, I'm not sure why else they're so afraid of it.
As if an accusation from a group of people trying to claim the moon is serious in the first place, "oh no Flapping-Gums and Drinks-Mouthwash called me racist, whatever will I do?"
Who cares? Let them, it's a free country.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 16:29:48 UTC No. 15959950
This general needs more onions wojacks
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 16:34:15 UTC No. 15959959
>>15959950
How about no, Im still a recovering addict dont get that shit anywhere near me
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 16:44:02 UTC No. 15959976
>>15959948
>Flapping-Gums and Drinks-Mouthwash
Hearty kek. My brother once drank cologne when he was drinking.
Not injun either.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 17:23:35 UTC No. 15960044
>>15959708
Suspension will need lighter springs, or you're going to be riding around at max droop.
Not low gravity per se, but cooling in a vacuum is likely an issue, but I guess in a remotely operated context where you don't have impatient astronauts on it, you can derate it as hard as necessary. 10% power and 10% duty cycle, or whatever.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 17:24:15 UTC No. 15960046
>>15959573
spaceguy5 is not a credible source
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 17:25:59 UTC No. 15960055
>>15960047
It definitely could be the year, everything is lining up for it
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 17:30:43 UTC No. 15960066
>>15960047
Successful reentry this year
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 17:34:32 UTC No. 15960071
>>15960066
I reckon they could get that milestone next launch if tiles hold up
after that they will have another 4 attempts for orbit in 2024
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 17:35:16 UTC No. 15960072
>>15960047
not a chance
ntsb takes over this year for space crash investigations
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 17:36:34 UTC No. 15960074
So SpaceX is supposedly building a falcon9 second stage every 3 days to support their crazy launch cadence.
The falcon 9 SS weighs ~90 tons fueled and it's pretty dense using kerolox.
I wonder, could you put a falcon 9 second stage inside starship and use it for high energy missions?
They could produce a bunch in bulk using the existing hot production lines and then sell them for years Into the future for various missions.
>>15960047
Absolutely.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 17:37:21 UTC No. 15960075
>>15960074
>I wonder, could you put a falcon 9 second stage inside starship and use it for high energy missions?
if they ever figure out the fairing design for starship
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 17:52:27 UTC No. 15960103
>>15960091
Build it and send it flying. If not in real life then at least in some game simulations. We have the technology
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 17:54:59 UTC No. 15960109
>>15960086
https://twitter.com/pitdesi/status/
boeing being incompetent or the corrosive effect of diversity quotas starting to kick in everywhere?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 17:55:05 UTC No. 15960110
>>15960074
Liquid fuel carried payload bay stuff would be extremely complicated. You stick trash solid stages into that.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 18:03:24 UTC No. 15960122
>>15960109
it's the 737-max, boeing obviously cut as many corners as they could to save money.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 18:21:50 UTC No. 15960141
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 18:22:52 UTC No. 15960142
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 18:24:11 UTC No. 15960144
>>15960109
boeing went to the shitter when it got bought out by the failing McDonnell Douglas with its own money in the infamous merger. The Douglas admin ended up worming its way into Boeings administration and steadily gate keeping/ousting/taking over the company. Result was accountants and MBAs taking over a engineering enterprise and starting out by separating the administration from the factory floor by building a new shiny headquarter on the other end of the continent.
This was way before woke had even been invented and affirmative action had barely any time to spread its tentacles. Same thing will happen to darlings like SpaceX btw. Its a natural cycle where money attracts pests like shit does flies
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 18:24:24 UTC No. 15960145
>>15960141
Studying the effects of woodticks in space
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 18:26:11 UTC No. 15960147
>>15959457
>>15959484
>>15960086
>The worst part of this ordeal must have been having to return to Portland
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 18:26:59 UTC No. 15960149
>>15960091
Only 9? By my math you should be able to get 13 1.5m Delta IV boosters, or 16 1.15m Delta III boosters, around a 5m Delta IV core.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 18:44:04 UTC No. 15960178
>>15960109
We need to put white men back in aviation.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 18:45:35 UTC No. 15960180
>>15959542
Can't wait for the carnage if the 777X enters service
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 18:50:12 UTC No. 15960188
>>15960178
Considering it was the late 70s, I wonder how much cocaine he had in his bloodstream.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 18:51:13 UTC No. 15960190
>>15960144
>Same thing will happen to darlings like SpaceX btw
SpaceX isn't publicly traded, thank fuck.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 18:51:19 UTC No. 15960191
>>15959484
>>15960086
I was gonna ask for a qrd, but then /p*l/ actually has a thread that isn't the usual eternal bbc shill spam
>>>/pol/454262533
I still don't understand why they apparently put a row of seats in front of an exit door.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 18:52:39 UTC No. 15960192
>>15960144
SpaceX is going to be too big to acquire
its going to start to rot from inside at some point like google has for instance but seems like Musk has been able to keep that from happening until now
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 18:53:12 UTC No. 15960193
>>15960109
>https://twitter.com/pitdesi/status
>737-Max
I really should buy some airbus stock.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 18:55:16 UTC No. 15960195
>>15958742
This guy basically disappeared from spitter after getting a job with Blue Origin, guess shilling BO and shitting on SpaceX, (even extremely exaggerated dramatizing after IFT-1) gets you noticed with Slow Origin
Also that Kolodny kook wrote an article quoting him too, so tells you all you need to know really, like that other anon said, severe EDS
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 18:56:53 UTC No. 15960198
>>15958820
>Lunar surface (moon) has more potential for space industrialization then Mars will have for a long time.
Uhh I don't think so, is there somebody you forgot to ask before you desecrate their moon?
>>15958758
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:02:04 UTC No. 15960205
>>15960142
filthy tomatoe etars
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:02:29 UTC No. 15960206
>>15960198
Tell them to post angry smoke signals about it if it makes them feel better
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:04:52 UTC No. 15960208
We are not yet ready for the coming entitled indigenous insanity, you thought Mauna Kea TMT protest was bad, you thought the Navajo Astrobotic tantrum was bad, just wait for what's coming, they will do everything in their power to obstruct, deny and deter our lunar future.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:05:58 UTC No. 15960212
>>15960086
retarded take (the SpaceX part), those are completely different departments. If anything, diverting even more resources to the aviation part (without getting allocated more) would slow AST down even more.
>>15960191
>linking to /pol/
Come on man, >>>/n/1971671 has a thread up where you would also have found that that door is sealed off in this particular configuration.
>>15960195
Got a job with ABL, not BO. Some decent balanced takes but as you say for some reason extreme Starship doomerism, I'm not even sure it was EDS, seemed more in the "leave SLS alone" direction.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:07:03 UTC No. 15960214
>>15960212
>ABL
oh I was thinking of someone else then poached by BO on spitter
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:07:23 UTC No. 15960215
>>15960091
There's no reason why it wouldn't "work," but it doesn't look like it'd have enough performance to lift the really big national security payloads. It's a few tons short to both 830km sun-synchronous and direct GEO.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:10:21 UTC No. 15960220
>>15960208
Deploy a little Jacksonian diplomacy
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:12:41 UTC No. 15960224
>>15960208
Why would anyone care what that bunch of alcoholics thinks? Imagine if pope said something similar, he would be laughed out.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:14:38 UTC No. 15960226
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVY
>>15960208
they have zero claim on the moon, they will look like insane people to most normies
completely different situation from a native tribe that has actually lived near or on some piece of land
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:16:18 UTC No. 15960231
>>15960224
Biden admin seems to care for some reason >>15958758
And if the indigenous tribes realize such grievance tactics work they will keep pushing them, some might align with degrowther types like Sierra Club in order to further their goals, or vice versa, wouldn't put it past them.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:17:44 UTC No. 15960235
>>15960226
>inb4 arrowheads found on moon
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:19:22 UTC No. 15960237
>>15960086
Some funnies in the replies
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:21:59 UTC No. 15960240
>>15960237
"funnies"
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:25:34 UTC No. 15960245
>>15960231
well whatever works I guess
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:27:09 UTC No. 15960247
>>15959212
why do black tiktok zoomers have such an obsession with my state
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:38:30 UTC No. 15960260
>>15959306
if you're going to try and FUDpost on sfg, at least get basic facts about SpaceX right
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:40:32 UTC No. 15960263
https://twitter.com/NASA/status/174
>NASA leaders will provide an update on our #Artemis lunar exploration plans on Jan. 9 at 1:30pm ET (1830 UTC). Media must RSVP at least two hours before the briefing:
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:42:06 UTC No. 15960269
>>15959726
its pure soft scifi disguised as hard scifi, they even have the shuttle going to the moon
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:42:32 UTC No. 15960270
If you support that orange shitstain or are one of the MAGA Cult of Dullards, unfuckingfollow me
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:43:42 UTC No. 15960274
>>15960270
sweetie this is 4chan
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:46:57 UTC No. 15960282
>>15960144
I think it'll take until after Musk dies for this to happen to SpaceX, but yeah it'll eventually happen even if its not until the 2080s or something.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:57:26 UTC No. 15960299
https://spacenews.com/nasa-adds-fun
>NASA announced Jan. 5 that it added a combined $99.5 million in funding to existing Space Act Agreements with Blue Origin and Voyager Space
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 20:00:26 UTC No. 15960303
>>15960299
i wish i got billions of dollars for nothing
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 20:11:46 UTC No. 15960330
/sfg/ we HAVE to get the upcoming 16,000,000 GET.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 20:22:19 UTC No. 15960349
>>15960109
>american education
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 20:22:28 UTC No. 15960351
>>15960323
>cutting through a tank
yeah i'd be calling in sick. imagine inhaling lead and plastic fumes. couldnt be me.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 20:27:06 UTC No. 15960353
>>15960351
That's why we have expendable Mexicans
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 20:43:37 UTC No. 15960372
>>15960323
Worked for 7 years at a large steel plant where fuckers upstairs micromanged everything we did.
could not fart without somebody taking note at that plant.
Litteraly, we walked around with oxygen and carbon monxide meters.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 21:00:44 UTC No. 15960395
>>15960372
Nobody cares about your gay story
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 21:01:45 UTC No. 15960397
>>15960395
You care <3
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 21:17:50 UTC No. 15960416
>>15960395
Thanks for upvoting my blog senpai!
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 21:33:05 UTC No. 15960437
>>15960215
Really? Vulcan only uses 6 max and it can apparently lift any natsec payloads
the RS-27A aren't exactly weak and paired with 9 GEM XLs they should perform well
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 21:52:13 UTC No. 15960463
Spirit arrived on Mars 20 years ago
https://www.theregister.com/2024/01
>Other than some beeps to indicate the rover was still there, the team faced an agonizing few sols trying to communicate with a suddenly silent rover. Squyres documents the tension well in Roving Mars as engineers sought to diagnose the issue. The rover, it appeared, was rebooting constantly. This was bad since the rover was rebooting and crashing repeatedly rather than sleeping overnight, as designed. There was a real danger the power system might be permanently damaged.
>While the marvelously named SHUTDOWN_DAMMIT command did not keep the rover asleep, INIT_CRIPPLED would at least allow the engineers to start the rover's computer without using the flash file system – then the leading candidate for what might have caused the problem.
>The solution worked, and engineers regained control of the rover. The problem? Apparently, the file system had been overloaded – more and more memory had been used every day, and eventually, the boot process failed while trying to read the file system.
>The INIT_CRIPPLED command had saved the day by bypassing the flash file system entirely. It probably shouldn't have been there. As Squyres noted, "it's not the kind of command that you'd ever expect to use under normal conditions on Mars."
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 21:52:23 UTC No. 15960464
>>15960437
I think I thought you meant a Delta IV with nine GEM-60s. Yeah, a rocket with 9 GEM 63XLs can hit all the big orbits with margin to spare. The 63 doubles the 60's thrust and packs in 50% more propellant.
In retrospect, they really should have gone with something like that in the first place. Most of the Delta IV's problems came from screwing up the common core design.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 22:08:00 UTC No. 15960486
>>15959257
>Blue Origin
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 22:27:33 UTC No. 15960513
Is air friction noticeable inside a pressurized spacecraft? As is, if you push something foward it will loose speed due to the air.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 22:28:23 UTC No. 15960515
>>15959244
>>15959257
>relativity
>launching
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 22:29:34 UTC No. 15960516
>>15960513
I don't think anyone's made a spacecraft long enough to find out.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 22:33:33 UTC No. 15960520
>>15960516
Not even the ISS?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 22:34:44 UTC No. 15960523
>>15960515
one launch nigga
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 22:36:36 UTC No. 15960527
>>15960520
https://www.nasa.gov/astrobee/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPHER
Look into whether the researchers who worked on these discussed air resistance to movement.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 22:38:21 UTC No. 15960529
>>15960493
Neat.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 22:55:10 UTC No. 15960552
>>15960529
If aliens invaded today, they would wonder what the fuck is going wrong with this planet that only a single company across 6 billion people is capable of propulsively landing boosters.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 22:56:14 UTC No. 15960555
>>15960075
>if they ever figure out a clamshell fairing
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 23:07:01 UTC No. 15960567
>>15960520
Too many wires
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 23:08:42 UTC No. 15960572
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 23:16:41 UTC No. 15960588
>>15959895
>>15959716
Another reason why Mars mogs the shitty old Moon
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 23:17:59 UTC No. 15960592
>>15960075
you could put any third stage in there. falcon 9 second stage is probably a waste, you want a lower thrust higher isp third stage. Blue Origin, ULA, or Impulse space could devlope that. It could unlock direct transfers to the outer solar system or the sun.
You need to solve how to climate control the starship payload bay somehow otherwise the ship will have a tendancy to blow up due to the third stage outgassing both fuel and oxidiser in an enclosed space. A cryogenic third stage was a concept for space shuttle, but it was too risky because of that fact. since starship can fly unmanned I think they wll solve this problem.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jan 2024 23:37:57 UTC No. 15960630
>>15960552
8 billion
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jan 2024 01:05:05 UTC No. 15960790
>>15960543
are you fucking kidding me???
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jan 2024 01:12:44 UTC No. 15960795
>>15960543
>The deep blue attributed to Neptune dates back to an artificial enhancement in the 1980s, when NASA’s Voyager 2 became the first (and still the only) spacecraft to visit the two planets.
>Scientists at that time cranked up the blue in images of Neptune made by Voyager’s cameras to highlight the planet’s many curiosities, such as its south polar wave and dark spots. But as many sky watchers have known for decades, both Neptune and Uranus appear pale greenish-blue to the human eye.
Kill astronomers