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🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General

Anonymous No. 15985046

Blue Exhaust Edition

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Anonymous No. 15985050

https://youtu.be/I8cb9VjAVMk

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Anonymous No. 15985053

I'M GONNA PLOOOOOM

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Anonymous No. 15985075

>>15985053
Dude, put that thing away, there are like, children here.

Anonymous No. 15985093

i need somebody to announce something huge, like a space station, and its launching next month. where are all of the stealth startups with industry shaking announcements?

Anonymous No. 15985113

>>15985093
QI drive confirmed
February 2024 (2 weeks)

Anonymous No. 15985114

>axiom mission launched today
>crickets in american media
>front page news in europe
ironic

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Anonymous No. 15985141

All the chinkhoppers so far

Anonymous No. 15985173

>>15985141
China being full of fast followers while the rest of the Western launch industry is making no serious effort to adapt to the paradigm established by SpaceX continues to baffle me. When did the West become allergic to innovation?

Anonymous No. 15985180

>>15985141
Go China!

Anonymous No. 15985187

>>15985141
China will surpass US in this decade.

Anonymous No. 15985196

>>15985173
China gave the president's son management of a $1.5 billion investment fund so they're immune to claims of intellectual property theft from US companies.

Anonymous No. 15985197

>>15985187
In copying SpaceX maybe

Anonymous No. 15985221

>>15985180
chink copy pasta.txt

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Anonymous No. 15985229

>>15985173
What's the expected ROI on a Falcon 9 competitor? Do you have any guaranteed customers even if you fall short of the mark and can't compete on price and reliability? Making the first good Falcon 9 clone in China has a lot of value, and they are still growing decently fast and aren't strapped for cash.
Unless there is some major state industrial policy in Europe I doubt we'll see a Starlink competitor or something equivalent that would require hundreds of launches from there.

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Anonymous No. 15985240

Going through a Challenger phase when this faggot randomly shows up. How long has he been kicking around for?

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Anonymous No. 15985268

Is DC-201 in 2026 likely?

Anonymous No. 15985272

>>15985173
>When did the West become allergic to innovation?
aging population in leadership and atrocious institutional education

WvB was 32yo when V-2 was developed and 58 during Apollo landing, JFK would have been 52 and Nixon was 56
Ballast Bill and Sleepy Joe are both 81, Orange man is 77, Dave Calhoun (Boing CEO) is 66, Tory Bruno is a young whippersnapper at 62

you have boomers hogging all the positions who are doing everything as they always done it, until they fall over and die
and their replacements aren't people who want to change things upside down - they are autistic yesmen who learned their mannerisms, who also hate change (or worse, DEI hires who don't care about any of this nerd shit and just want to parasite on prestige)

Anonymous No. 15985277

>>15985268
wtf is the point of the dream chaser?

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Anonymous No. 15985281

>>15985053
HIGH ENERGY ARCHITECTURE

Anonymous No. 15985318

>>15985277
Delivering cargo and crew to the ISS

Anonymous No. 15985330

>>15985141
how many failed non-hop landings have china not made public? how many times more difficult is a suborbital landing compared to a hop?

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Anonymous No. 15985333

Europe's attempt to decouple from the US
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAr_8cNL1nk

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Anonymous No. 15985349

ELAN THE BLADDY ROGGETS
LAANCH THEM KINDLY
I BEG YOU

Anonymous No. 15985353

2 hours until SLIM attempts landing

Anonymous No. 15985356

>>15985333
as a european i'm pissed off that ESA and ariane were in denial about falcon 9 for so fucking long.
didn't the ariane exec even have an outburst basically along the lines of
>NOOOO ITS NOT FAIR THAT FALCON IS SO MUCH CHEAPER THAN US IT MUST BE SUBSIDIZED OR SOMETHING

fucking hell, if only airbus put some of their magic to work on spaceflight instead of hogging the US passenger plane market.

Anonymous No. 15985358

>>15985353
check em, the moon men will nuke it before it lands.

Anonymous No. 15985364

>>15985229
There is nothing in existence that's going to wake up europe. The continent is basically the equivalent of a retirement home.

Anonymous No. 15985370

>>15985046
This is bad...

Anonymous No. 15985377

Good morning Ria!

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>>15985377

Anonymous No. 15985382

>>15985114
they stuffed the rocket full of europeans

Anonymous No. 15985385

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UftY80iFWI

clear is live

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Anonymous No. 15985392

> The Japanese moon lander has an official JAXA animu mascot loli.

Way to confirm those stereotypes, Japan.

Anonymous No. 15985394

I'm crossing my finger SLIM lands in one piece

Anonymous No. 15985397

>>15985392
Soul

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Anonymous No. 15985402

>6 RD-180 / 12 BE-4 / 12 AR-1 rocket
Thoughts?

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Anonymous No. 15985405

That is one unattractive space vehicle.

Anonymous No. 15985407

im shitting myself

Anonymous No. 15985408

>>15985405
name 3 sexy landers

Anonymous No. 15985410

Will the nips job again?

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Anonymous No. 15985413

>>15985392
seethe

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Anonymous No. 15985419

>>15985405
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57hS8uLU7v4
Look at that. better looking than most of the other recent ones

Anonymous No. 15985420

That little ball rover is so cute, hope it doesn't just dig itself into the regolith.

Anonymous No. 15985426

> SORA-Q is a tiny rover developed by JAXA in joint cooperation with Tomy, Sony Group, and Doshisha University

LMAO, literally a toy company made this.

Anonymous No. 15985431

let's go bakugan on the moon
full support sirs

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Anonymous No. 15985434

"SLIM-kun -- do your very best!"

Anonymous No. 15985436

>>15985426
Not just any toy company, a Japanese toy company. you know the Japanese make good the best stuff.

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Anonymous No. 15985439

>>15985408
basically all the landers for mars rovers.
zhurong's platform
spirit and opportunity's balloons
mars pathfinder

Anonymous No. 15985442

When is the action going to start? I just see random people talking to each other on the stream.

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Anonymous No. 15985447

>>15985442
Hopefully before the buzz wears off....

Anonymous No. 15985451

>>15985447
>no Strong-0
Weak!

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Anonymous No. 15985455

There just has to be a line of capsule toys for this.

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Anonymous No. 15985463

"Go SLIM -- go!"

🗑️ Anonymous No. 15985465

>>15985455
I wish we had capsule machines selling little models of spacecrafts/probes for a few bucks each, I'd buy them all.

Anonymous No. 15985466

here we go, finally some live telemetry

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Anonymous No. 15985468

imagine if SLIM lands today...

🗑️ Anonymous No. 15985472

>>15985468
I will be very happy.

Anonymous No. 15985474

>156,586 watching now
:O

Anonymous No. 15985475

>>15985474
>less than a football match
its over

Anonymous No. 15985476

>above the curve
doesn't it mean it has extra fuel left?

Anonymous No. 15985477

what's that bottle popping sound that keeps happening?

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Anonymous No. 15985479

"Itadakimasu!"

Anonymous No. 15985480

>>15985477
your moms diaphragm

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 15985483

>>15985477
Champagen

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Anonymous No. 15985484

happening!!!

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Anonymous No. 15985485

>curses your spacecraft

Anonymous No. 15985486

>>15985483
bit early for that don't you think? not to late for it to crash

Anonymous No. 15985487

>>15985485
Geronimo? why?

Anonymous No. 15985488

Intuitive machines are sweating right now

Anonymous No. 15985489

>>15985240
He kicked ass at this hearing. He was running circles around everyone including the engineers.

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Anonymous No. 15985491

what the fuck, boing

🗑️ Anonymous No. 15985495

>>15985491
Is someone running a smear campaign against Boeing or are they fucking up this often organically?

Anonymous No. 15985496

>>15985491
https://aviationweek.com/aerospace/commercial-space/boeing-eyes-commercial-sls-bid-nssl-phase-3

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Anonymous No. 15985500

"Oh no! Be careful SOR-Q!"

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Anonymous No. 15985503

2km and descending

🗑️ Anonymous No. 15985505

I hope it doesn't spend an hour sliding slowly down the slope like in KSP

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Anonymous No. 15985507

>>15985502
> 72 x 72

Thanks.

Anonymous No. 15985508

500m

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Anonymous No. 15985510

Soon....

Anonymous No. 15985511

This telemetry display is wild.

Anonymous No. 15985513

>>15985503
50 meters!

Anonymous No. 15985514

It's into the ground?

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Anonymous No. 15985516

yatta!

Anonymous No. 15985517

NIPPON BANZAI?!

Anonymous No. 15985518

SLIM HAS LANDED

Anonymous No. 15985519

DSN still receiving data. They did it.

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Anonymous No. 15985521

Honest question Elon Sisters, what would be your red line to quit the Elon Mars Death Cult?

5 Starship explosions?
10 years behind schedule?
Kicked out of Boca Chica?
Would you just ride or die no matter how many lies he tells, no matter how many failures you witness?

No seriously, write it down, hang it on your mirror, be accountable. Otherwise the Terra Gravity Well will be the graveyard of Humanity....perhaps The Great Filter is you retards obsessed with some monorail salesman deep state faggot who steals memes from /pol/ to impress normies. Food for thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDOI0cq6GZM

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Anonymous No. 15985522

"Go!"

Anonymous No. 15985523

Retarded landing sequence gone wrong?

Anonymous No. 15985524

ok when are the images comming?

Anonymous No. 15985526

>>15985521
Japan just landed on the moon. This is an historic moment. save the Elon bait for later please

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Anonymous No. 15985527

LFG!!!

Anonymous No. 15985530

Japan can into moon!?!

Anonymous No. 15985531

"CHECKING THE STATUS"

IT'S OVER

Anonymous No. 15985532

Why can't USA and Russia into moon?

Anonymous No. 15985533

>>15985521
What is blud waffling about?

Anonymous No. 15985534

>we're stil checking the status
these streams are always sad to watch

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Anonymous No. 15985536

>>15985113
>QI drive confirmed
>February 2024 (2 weeks)
Big if true.

Anonymous No. 15985537

>>15985531
... checking intensifies

Anonymous No. 15985538

Why do they have SAD EXPRESSIONS on their faces?!

Anonymous No. 15985540

umm guys?

Anonymous No. 15985541

Look like they did soft landing, but not sure if it's in stable position? I have a bad feeling...

Anonymous No. 15985542

>American moon lander: fails immediately on orbit
>Japanese moon lander: works perfectly
When did we lose our edge?

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Anonymous No. 15985543

this looks good though right?

Anonymous No. 15985545

Never do retard flipping manuevers 10m from landing

Anonymous No. 15985548

>we are checking status, prease waitu
get on with it you NIP FUCKS did it crash or not?

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Anonymous No. 15985549

>>15985542
Don't worry.
We Are Going.

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Anonymous No. 15985550

Waiting....

Anonymous No. 15985552

>>15985548
funds are saifu

Anonymous No. 15985553

>>15985543
Enough time has elapsed for an engineering camera image.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 15985554

>>15985541
Landed and did the topple as planned, but in the lower gravity it kept turning and landed upside down.
t. on the moon watching

Anonymous No. 15985555

>>15985550
based shogi enjoyer

Anonymous No. 15985557

>>15985554
liar, its saifu

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Anonymous No. 15985558

Any time you guys.....

Anonymous No. 15985559

SHAMEFUR DISPRAY

Anonymous No. 15985560

Please wait warmly girls are checking status!

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Anonymous No. 15985561

>>15985555
quads of traditional chess variants

Anonymous No. 15985562

60 years later and a moon landing looks like a paradox game

🗑️ Anonymous No. 15985563

The only real way to land on the moon is by the seat of your pants, joystick in hand, glancing furtively at the fuel readout and back out the window as you intuitively apply just enough thrust to touch down like a feather.

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Anonymous No. 15985564

meanwhile the terachads at JPL are streaming 4K quality Mars landings

Anonymous No. 15985566

Why can’t they fire thrusters to flip around?

Anonymous No. 15985567

>>15985566
not all ksp maneuvers work in real life

Anonymous No. 15985569

status check: still checking status

Anonymous No. 15985570

samurai bros, what happened?

Anonymous No. 15985571

>>15985566
maybe they can. The Japanese are pretty good at salvaging missions that appear to be fucked. They did it for Hayabusa.

Anonymous No. 15985572

why did they decide upon such a weird landing maneuver anyways?

🗑️ Anonymous No. 15985573

Status of the status?

Anonymous No. 15985574

>>15985573
>>15985569

you may have to wait a while for the status

🗑️ Anonymous No. 15985575

>>15985572
It works in KSP when I land big rovers.

Anonymous No. 15985576

So, I guess we will have a bunch of HLS test streams once Starship get's done with the Earth tests?

Anonymous No. 15985577

>>15985543
How strong is this signal compared to the expected strength? Could mean a non directional antenna if it is even true?

Anonymous No. 15985578

>>15985491
If it's Boeing, you ain't going

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Anonymous No. 15985580

so uhh starship is supposed to land humans by 2026?

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Anonymous No. 15985581

"Banzai! Banzai! Banzai!"

They did the thing!2h4ya

Anonymous No. 15985582

>>15985572
it was supposed to be able to land on steeper slopes than standard landers

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Anonymous No. 15985585

>>15985564
Shame on you for that quality.

Anonymous No. 15985586

Just woke up. Did JAXA actually manage to put something on the moon in one piece?

Anonymous No. 15985588

>>15985586
checking status

Anonymous No. 15985589

>>15985586
It is in one piece. Unfortunately it took a bit of a tumble.

Anonymous No. 15985590

>>15985586
please wait for the press conference

Anonymous No. 15985592

>>15985580
Humans would be able to steer the ship of stars

Anonymous No. 15985593

>>15985491
Boing doesn't make the engines.

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>>15985586
I think it might've tipped over more than it was supposed to. I want to know what's become of the ball rover it dropped at 1m

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Anonymous No. 15985598

"Oh no! SLIM-kun!"

Anonymous No. 15985599

>>15985590
please understand

Anonymous No. 15985605

First lesson of BattleBots: have a self-righting mechanism

🗑️ Anonymous No. 15985608

>>15985605
The ball rover shouldn't have this problem, deploying the little camera bit should right it no matter what position it landed in.

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Anonymous No. 15985615

"We apologize to the Emperor for our failure." *commits Seppuku*

Anonymous No. 15985617

>>15985581
seems like this is from a public viewing event in Sagamihara, south of Tokyo

Anonymous No. 15985619

They started playing sad funeral music. It's over.

Anonymous No. 15985621

It actually did a soft landing, completed the most important goal, just hopefully it still able to release the ball rover.

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Anonymous No. 15985623

"Sumimasen..."

Anonymous No. 15985624

bbc said they had landed

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Anonymous No. 15985625

>>15985046
>>15985502
>>15985521
>>15985590
>>15985617
When are we leaving this planet bros? Here I am another day, stuck on this little blue point with flat eathers and moon landing deniers... I want to go out and explore the galaxy, whats taking so long...

Anonymous No. 15985627

>>15985621
The spaceballs eject shortly before the landing.

Anonymous No. 15985628

>>15985625
we just landed on another planet this morning dumbass. not my fault your ass isn't going to space

Anonymous No. 15985632

This is getting sad, they should just go and ask help from the indians at this point.

Anonymous No. 15985633

Revenge for Pearl Harbor

Anonymous No. 15985635

>>15985621
whats so hard about a soft landing? just slow down lmao

Anonymous No. 15985636

Rank the following space agencies:

US
EU
Russia
China
India
Japan

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Anonymous No. 15985638

*munch*

Anonymous No. 15985639

>>15985636
china (numba wan) >>>>>> us > india = russia > japan = eu

Anonymous No. 15985642

>>15985638
Why do you have so much jap stuff?

Anonymous No. 15985644

>>15985636
USA
soviets
china
russia
eurobros
japan
india

Anonymous No. 15985645

>>15985642
Weeb tranny trying to live his trans girl fantasies uwu

Anonymous No. 15985649

How come arabs don't have space programs? They have the infinite money glitch and good launch weather.

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Anonymous No. 15985650

>>15985636
4ASS
NASA
ISRO / CASC
roscosmos
JAXA
cucklord central esa

Anonymous No. 15985651

>>15985636
>manned spaceflight
US > R > C > I > EU = J
>rockets
US > C > EU = R = J = I
>scientific probes
US > EU = J = C > I > R
>telescopes
US = EU > C > J > I = R

Anonymous No. 15985653

owari da

Anonymous No. 15985654

Even the Japanese stream dropped under 100k viewers. They know it's owarida.

Anonymous No. 15985658

They said that they need two more hours. Please wait for a while.

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>>15985654
riveting livestream, I can't imagine why people would leave

Anonymous No. 15985661

https://eyes.nasa.gov/dsn/dsn.html
I mean... the DSN says it's still receiving data

Anonymous No. 15985663

>>15985649
Idk it may start a ballistic missile arms race

Anonymous No. 15985667

>>15985649
UAE has a pretty competent space program but nothing in the way of domestic launch vehicles

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Anonymous No. 15985669

ゆっくりしていってね!!!

Anonymous No. 15985671

>>15985669
Clear(ly) a cis het femoid desu

Anonymous No. 15985673

>>15985636
1. US
2. China
3. Russia
4. EU
5. India
6. Japan

Anonymous No. 15985676

>>15985661
Alive. Tipped over. Solar panel angle not optimal. Might not be able to release payload. Not great, not terrible.

Anonymous No. 15985689

>>15985669
That's Japanese for "I'm a trans Redditor into BBC porn"

Anonymous No. 15985695

LEV 2 should be taking picture and send the data to LEV 1, which send it back to earth, so if it is alive then we may be able to get picture of SLIM.

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Anonymous No. 15985696

If this one fails, they should just sacrifice one intern for the next mission whose job is to be onboard to fix things after the landing and with no means of returning to earth.

Anonymous No. 15985701

>>15985695
they already have that picture. they just need more time to think of an eloquent way to say "uhh looks like we landed upside down and the lander will be dead in 6 hours"

Anonymous No. 15985703

>>15985521
>if i just pretend to be mentally retarded and then call it a baitpost people will not make fun of me
no, they still will.

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Anonymous No. 15985708

If they can't keep it from tipping over, why don't they just put solar panels on the bottom?

Anonymous No. 15985718

>>15985229
Europe can only be saved by going back to war with itself.

Anonymous No. 15985719

>>15985229
america did this

Anonymous No. 15985720

>>15985708
being a bottom is gay doe and the japs are cis straight hetro chads

Anonymous No. 15985725

Did SLIM die from shaken payload syndrome too?

Anonymous No. 15985726

CONFERENCE STARTS IN 15 MINUTES

Anonymous No. 15985727

Press conference in 13 min.

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Anonymous No. 15985729

>>15985046
>post yfw you realize Tesla/SpaceX are lame now

Can’t believe this dumbass has forced me to pour all the rest of my faith and optimism into fucking Jeff Bezos of all people… this is what it’s like to watch your heroes fall. At least Basedzos’ new thrusters will bring shuttles back to the fold

Anonymous No. 15985739

>>15985729
Jeff you really gotta try harder with your shit posts.

Anonymous No. 15985753

>they need more time to prepare the press conference
it's over

Anonymous No. 15985755

LOL
https://youtu.be/dDah_KqMHYw

Anonymous No. 15985759

They're not smiling.

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Anonymous No. 15985760

Yup, it's over

Anonymous No. 15985765

it's fucking upside down
I called it

Anonymous No. 15985766

BATTERY FAILURE

HAHAHA

Anonymous No. 15985767

solar not able to generate electricity

Anonymous No. 15985768

>solar cell not operating
its over...

Anonymous No. 15985769

welp, flipped over

Anonymous No. 15985770

RTG chads stay winning.

Anonymous No. 15985772

solarfags btfo

🗑️ Anonymous No. 15985777

I had a feeling, the topple maneuver carried too much momentum and it kept toppling beyond the position it was meant to settle in. Happens all the time in KSP.

Anonymous No. 15985778

What is it with Indians having to constantly spam their flag in live chat?

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Anonymous No. 15985783

Our boy was successfully deployed

Anonymous No. 15985785

solar sissies lose again

Anonymous No. 15985786

>>15985783
Look at him go!

Anonymous No. 15985788

Didn't we solve solar panels long time ago, how can it not generate power.

Anonymous No. 15985789

>>15985783
we're getting 1 picture back from this guy before slim runs out of batteries

Anonymous No. 15985792

Lunar Excursion Vehicle 1 has direct uplink capability. LEV-2 is 250g so I seriously doubt that it has.

Anonymous No. 15985794

>>15985789
LEV-2 communicates over LEV-1 which has a direct earth link.

Anonymous No. 15985795

>>15985788
because it's upside down retard

Anonymous No. 15985796

>>15985788
solar panels only work if you point them at the sun

Anonymous No. 15985797

>>15985792
>>15985794
BASED

Anonymous No. 15985799

They don't know if it's flipped over? What the fuck are they doing? Don't they have an accelerometer on board?

Anonymous No. 15985802

So congratulation Japan for being the 5th country to soft land on the moon

Anonymous No. 15985803

>>15985799
they are too busy gooning to clear hentai

Anonymous No. 15985806

Congratulations @jaxa_en @jaxa_jp @isas_jaxa_en - I consider this mission a success despite the fact that the surface lifetime will be short.

Anonymous No. 15985814

Just need a single picture...

Anonymous No. 15985815

Success? It's a fucking useless piece of junk. It has enough battery to send one dick pic back to Earth before falling into an eternal slumber.

Anonymous No. 15985817

JPL tier spin

Anonymous No. 15985824

>>15985815
Did better than Peregrine.

Anonymous No. 15985825

they should fry flipping it over with lev-2. it's lighter on the moon so it should be easy

Anonymous No. 15985826

WHERE'S THE PHOTO, FAGGOTS? YOU PAID FOR THIS SHIT USING TAXPAYER MONEY, AT LEAST YOU CAN GIVE US THE MONEY SHOT

Anonymous No. 15985830

Yep, it's flipped over.

Anonymous No. 15985834

why don't they just make a lander that works both ways, then it doesn't matter if flips over

Anonymous No. 15985835

inb4 LEV-1 and LEV-2 will end up doing a 600 day mission

Anonymous No. 15985838

They shutdown various subsystems on the vehicle to compensate for loss of power generator. So now, they have few hrs left of research to do.

Anonymous No. 15985851

They have 12 rcs thruster with 22 newtons each plus the main engines. If they weren't pussies scared of risk they could flip it the right way up.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 15985854

>>15985851
They still had like 20kg of fuel left when they touched down too, they could do it. I wonder if the wash from the engines would blow the little ball rover around though.

Anonymous No. 15985856

Since it seems it was a partial success, I wonder if they are willing to try this design again

Anonymous No. 15985857

>>15985851
Unfortunately they didn't foresee such a scenario and there is no program to execute it.

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Anonymous No. 15985858

>no electricity

Anonymous No. 15985859

inb4 it does a philae and communicates again in a year

Anonymous No. 15985861

>>15985858
oh my gura

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Anonymous No. 15985862

>it even overshoots the flip in their promotional material
ohnnononono AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous No. 15985864

>they didn't charge it before shiping it
wtf

Anonymous No. 15985865

>>15985857
>and there is no program to execute it.
so write that program. do you not have the right stuff?

Anonymous No. 15985866

>>15985856
> a partial success,
You're being too generous. The officials said that the mission passed the minimum success criteria.

Anonymous No. 15985867

>>15985864
just like the cubesat on artemis

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>>15985851
If they weren't retards, they would stop skimping on critical systems to save mass elsewhere, add a few extra kilograms of batteries, put a 200 watt solar panel on the back or sides

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Anonymous No. 15985870

Trust me bro it's a full success it's just not an extra success

Anonymous No. 15985872

>>15985869
at least they were smart enough to bring a few spare kilograms of rocket fuel this time

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Anonymous No. 15985874

Next up, Nova C in February

Anonymous No. 15985877

>>15985870
Wasn't the objective for pinpoint landing?

Anonymous No. 15985878

>only poo's can pull off a moon landing now
Holy shit it actually is the Indian century

Anonymous No. 15985879

>>15985862
Japs are truly retarded lol

Anonymous No. 15985880

>>15985869
Yeah. I don't understand this. They were obviously doing a precarious maneuver to land on steep slopes.
The MOST OBVIOUS thing to anticipate is it flipping over.
It uses thin film cells on the top already. It wouldn't even be 1 extra kilogram to cover the bottom too.

Anonymous No. 15985882

>>15985877
They believe they have achieved high accuracy landing. So they consider that part as a likely success.

Anonymous No. 15985883

>>15985878
What about China and their far side lander and rover? Much more implessive

Anonymous No. 15985884

>>15985874
god damn we're being spoiled

Anonymous No. 15985887

does anyone have a photograph of the actual hardware for lev1? I can barely find renders

Anonymous No. 15985889

>>15985880
They insist the landing went fine and the solar cells aren't working for another reason.

Anonymous No. 15985890

>>15985862
This seems to only work if they're landing uphill.

Anonymous No. 15985891

>>15985783
He's literally me! Completely alone and borderline useless.

Anonymous No. 15985892

>>15985883
Fake

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Anonymous No. 15985893

>>15985887
Have this miniature model.

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>>15985887
https://www.chuo-u.ac.jp/english/news/2023/09/67672/

Anonymous No. 15985896

They should make the lander a cube with different number of solar panel on each side, so it would feel like a dice roll.

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Anonymous No. 15985897

>>15985887
Boing

Anonymous No. 15985898

>>15985893
That's SLIM.

Anonymous No. 15985899

>>15985729
Musk has never been more inspiring than he is now
my respect for him has only increased through the years

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Anonymous No. 15985900

>>15985887
The design seems highly autistic.

Anonymous No. 15985904

>>15985900
Yeah, they're extremely Japanese.

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Anonymous No. 15985905

>>15985887
roll

Anonymous No. 15985910

https://twitter.com/nhk_sciencezero/status/1681982284088455170

The Japanese girl fears the lunar hopper

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Anonymous No. 15985913

Slim-kun has stopped transmission. Owari da.

Anonymous No. 15985916

>>15985913
lol

Anonymous No. 15985918

>>15985892
No? We can all see the data

Anonymous No. 15985920

>>15985910
pretty kewl.
i just hope its deployment worked.
shouldnt they have seen its signal by now?

Anonymous No. 15985921

>>15985920
They've had its signal since landing.

Anonymous No. 15985924

May I have your attention, please?
Will the real SLIM Shady please stand up?
I repeat
Will the real SLIM Shady please stand up?
We're gonna have a problem here

Anonymous No. 15985925

>>15985921
Yay! They should make a video with the hopper of the little ball moving.

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Anonymous No. 15985927

>>15985894
look at it go!

Anonymous No. 15985928

>>15985925
Let's hope they share it lmao

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Anonymous No. 15985934

>>15985924
best post of the thread so far

Anonymous No. 15985938

>>15985913
can't see levi1 in dsn website as well
hope they come back or the images were transmitted at least

Anonymous No. 15985941

>>15985495
>or are they fucking up this often organically
They are fucking up organically anon, it's a natural consequence of having a ~$500bn backlog of plane orders while not expanding their manufacturing ability so they can show off their profit margin to the shareholders.

They actually failed their own goal of 450 planes shipped to customers last year, they only sent ~390 and i'm sure that was only achieved by cutting corners as we have seen in Miami and Alaska, alongside other fuckups like the 737 MAX.

Anonymous No. 15985944

At the very least, Japan joins the club of now 5 countries that got to the moon that functions. Problem is that they didn't get everything.

Still I think Japan should still be proud of the archievement.

Anonymous No. 15985947

Astrobotic teleconference on nasa tv right now

Anonymous No. 15985951

>>15985947
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8r6gTFXH1k

why didn't you link it

Anonymous No. 15985957

>>15985947
>Confirms that Vulcan damaged Peregrine.
It happening...

Anonymous No. 15985965

>>15985957
real

Anonymous No. 15985974

>>15985857
It's Midway all over again. The Japanese never adequately plan for things not going to plan.

Anonymous No. 15985979

>>15985974
side effect of autism, you can weave intricate plans but can't adapt when something changes along the line.

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Anonymous No. 15985981

please come back

Anonymous No. 15985983

>>15985356
vega would be cheaper than falcon 9 if ESA bureaucracy didn't impose to fragment the production across who knows how many european manufacturers
>dude, avio can make the first 3 stages but this totally trivial piece of the rocket must be made by the "who the fuck are you LLC" born yesterday

Anonymous No. 15985986

>>15985983
But Avio can't make the first stage alone.

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Anonymous No. 15985991

>>15985865
>do you not have the right stuff?

Do these look like guys that have The Right Stuff?

Anonymous No. 15986003

>>15985986
yeah the french have to take part in it somehow otherwise you can't use their nigger penal colony
>european space agency
thanks for making my point

>people think that a 9 engine rocket is more convenient than "big firework" just because it lands on a barge

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>>15985981
silence...

Anonymous No. 15986015

>>15985991
Looks based to me

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Anonymous No. 15986025

the sample head is open
high resolution here https://images.nasa.gov/details/jsc2024e006057

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Anonymous No. 15986028

"Wipe that smile off your face, you failure!"

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Anonymous No. 15986029

https://spacenews.com/chinas-landspace-conducts-first-vtvl-test-for-reusable-stainless-steel-rocket/

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>>15986029
https://twitter.com/AJ_FI/status/1748270278918983745

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>>15986030
>

The Zhuque-3 VTVL-1 test follows similar “hop” tests conducted by fellow Beijing-based launch startup iSpace in November and December last year. The Zhuque-3 VTVL-1 is powered by an engine model that will be used for orbital flight, as with iSpace’s tests.

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>>15986032
> Regarding Zhuque-3’s roadmap, Landspace CEO Zhang Changwu told Chinese media last month that the firm is working on a 200-ton full-flow staged-combustion-cycle engine, to be ready in 2028.
> That engine would power a two-stage reusable launch vehicle with a diameter of 10 meters. The launcher appears to challenge the planned Long March 9 reusable rocket being developed by the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corp. (CASC), the country’s state-owned main space contractor.

going to be a starship clone and competitor to the state developed Long March 9

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Anonymous No. 15986037

list of chinese reusable rockets in development

Anonymous No. 15986042

【速報】日本の探査機SLIM、月面着陸に成功 世界5カ国目 JAXA発表

Anonymous No. 15986047

>>15986032
>China
>'startup'
>'private'
lol
lmao even

Anonymous No. 15986048

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1748428323548758414

Merlin engine at work

Anonymous No. 15986050

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muK6gFtv7_o

Anonymous No. 15986053

>>15986050
oh my manley

Anonymous No. 15986058

>>15986047
coping mutt

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Anonymous No. 15986064

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/01/rocket-report-a-new-estimate-of-starship-costs-japan-launches-spy-satellite/

Small Rockets
> The problem at America's military spaceports.
> Momentus is running out of money.
> Orbex may go bigger.

Medium Rockets
> Hello, Helios.
> Japan launches spy satellite.
> Another cargo delivery to Tiangong.

Heavy Rockets
> Elon Musk's newsy all-hands meeting.
> Mike Griffin turns back the clock.
> Taking a look at Starship's costs.
> RS-25 engine testing continues in Mississippi

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Anonymous No. 15986065

Landing on the moon is far from straightforward.

Anonymous No. 15986069

>>15986064
a few interesting tidbits, quote is with respect to SpaceX all-hands talk with respect to how long F9 will be kept running, which I missed myself and didn't see much discussion about (obviously the starship info ws more interesting)

>There was some news on Falcon 9, too … Until Starship is fully operational, SpaceX will continue flying its Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy rockets to carry satellites, cargo, and astronauts into orbit. This means Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy will remain in service until at least the late 2020s, and perhaps beyond 2030 for certain missions. So SpaceX is motivated to improve Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy, even though the company doesn't plan any more major "block upgrades" to either vehicle. Musk said SpaceX is working to qualify Falcon first-stage boosters for up to 40 flights, four times the original goal, and reduce launch pad turnaround time to less than 24 hours.

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Anonymous No. 15986072

>>15986064
Payload Space has written a study about the costs of the starship programme, how much it costs to build one etc
you can view the report if you give them your email

https://payloadspace.com/starship-report/

Anonymous No. 15986079

>>15986047
well whatever it happens to be, the private entities should have much more autonomy and different management structures even if in the end they got investment from the state and were subject to their whims in the end
or not sure what you mean by that

Anonymous No. 15986084

>>15986072
so right now a Starship stack costs 90 million according to their estimates, most of this is the engines + labour
marginal cost estimate is 10 million

Anonymous No. 15986091

>>15986072
what's the secret sauce that lets them build the largest super heavy lift vehicle ever for lest than the price of many medium lift rockets?

Anonymous No. 15986095

>>15986091
Stainless steel helps

Anonymous No. 15986098

>>15986091
Vertical integration.

Anonymous No. 15986105

>>15986091
Stainless steel instead of composites and also building large numbers of engines/stages which allows them to figure out how to reduce costs by just building variations of the same thing over and over. We're up to what booster 13 and ship 30+? How many New Glenn stages have been build? Vulcan? Pretty sure just 1 in the same time (or more) than SpaceX has build 13 boosters and 30+ ships .

Anonymous No. 15986107

>>15986091
Burritos

Anonymous No. 15986113

>>15986091
They also either get off the shelf parts and materials or use proprietary stuff rather than outsourcing to hundreds of other companies

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Anonymous No. 15986114

>>15986072
pages 1-8 (the full pdf is 13.9mb and couldn't be compressed, but maybe I'm retarded=

Anonymous No. 15986115

>>15986003
>people think that a 9 engine rocket is more convenient than "big firework" just because it lands on a barge

Considering their launch cadence limit is the speed they can make second stages.

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Anonymous No. 15986116

>>15986114
pages 9-17

Anonymous No. 15986117

>super autistic unorthodox last second maneuver instead of just designing angled/articulated legs for an upright platform
>predictably fails

So that leaves LEV1 and LEV2, also super autistic hyper-niche movement with obvious single points of failure

Here's how that will happen:
>LEV-1
hops around a few times until one hop gets it stuck 90 degrees perpendicular pointing hopping plate down and cannot recover

>LEV2
Gets fucked by regolith, jammed or buries itself in it unrecoverably

This is so predictable

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Anonymous No. 15986119

>>15986116
18-26

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Anonymous No. 15986121

>>15986119
27-32
this part has the cost analysis

Anonymous No. 15986122

>>15986072
>The vast majority of this goes toward the rocket's 39 Raptor engines and labor expenses
SpaceX needs (or will need at some point) a much bigger Raptor successor, should be like 2x the cost and 3x thrust or so. Instead of 33 engines they could use only 11 or less on the booster, reducing price and complexity.

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>>15986114
table of contents

Anonymous No. 15986125

>>15986122
Full-flow staged combustion cycle rotating detonation aerospike

Anonymous No. 15986128

>>15986114
bro i typed in some burner info and nothing happened when i pressed submit

Anonymous No. 15986130

If it weren’t for the delay, Intuitive Machines IM-1 would have landed today

Anonymous No. 15986131

>>15986130
>would have landed
Counting chickens before they've hatched kek

Anonymous No. 15986133

>>15986130
If it weren’t for the delay, Artemis would have landed people on the Moon today.

Anonymous No. 15986135

>>15986133
this is not true

Anonymous No. 15986138

Feels so moon bros

Anonymous No. 15986139

>>15986128
i did the same with firefox when I had ublock on, nothing happened
but with chrome it seemed to work (no adblocks or any addons at all)

Anonymous No. 15986140

>>15986138
no it doesn't
>>15986139
yeah that's probably it

Anonymous No. 15986142

We should be sending midgets into space

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Anonymous No. 15986144

>>15986091
rapid hardware rich iteration, i.e. exploding rockets

Anonymous No. 15986146

>>15986142
that is what ESA is planning on
brown midgets, women with amputated legs and people with disabilities in general (being a manlet is a disability acording to ESA kek)

Anonymous No. 15986147

>>15986144
muskrat btfo

Anonymous No. 15986148

>>15986147
English please Sir

Anonymous No. 15986150

>>15986122
nah they like the small engines for redundancy.
also they get great packing efficiency.

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Anonymous No. 15986151

spacex fundraising + valuation history

Anonymous No. 15986154

>>15986147
btfo how? don't you know how to read?
their competitive edge is to blow the rockets up and not care about uninformed retards whining about that

Anonymous No. 15986157

>>15986154
thunderf00t said that SpaceX is on the verge of total collapse doe

Anonymous No. 15986160

>>15986157
thunderf00t has no idea what he is talking about

Anonymous No. 15986161

>>15986157
Thundercuck is a nobody

Anonymous No. 15986163

>>15986160
but he's the king of the skeptic community doe

Anonymous No. 15986168

What rocket is Astrobotic Griffin with NASA VIPER launching on?

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Anonymous No. 15986169

hmmmmmmm

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Anonymous No. 15986172

https://www.valleycentral.com/news/cameron-county-and-spacex-compete-for-boca-chica-land/

In Cameron County, an exchange of land is being considered by Texas Parks and Wildlife, however, there is some opposition from county leaders.

The opposition comes amid SpaceX’s request for dozens of acres from Boca Chica State Park.

In return, SpaceX would give Texas Parks and Wildlife close to 500 acres near the Laguna Atascosa National Wildlife Refuge.

Cameron County Commissioner David Garza says SpaceX is going after land the county was already looking to acquire.

“We don’t need a corporation to come in and buy a property that is in the works of already being bought,” Garza said.

Anonymous No. 15986173

>>15986169
gay futa starship

Anonymous No. 15986180

90 mil for starship stack vs 100mil for RS-25
lmao

Anonymous No. 15986182

>>15986173
There is no dick, though.

Anonymous No. 15986187

>>15986182
not yet

Anonymous No. 15986190

>>15986182
where do you think the third sea level raptor is?

Anonymous No. 15986191

>>15986182
the fin looked like one but upon further inspection, it's actually on the side not the front of the girl
sorry

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Anonymous No. 15986194

>>15986190
In her ass.

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>>15986192

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Anonymous No. 15986211

>>15986205
AKHTUALLY there's a fourth, RD-280, started by Glushko in 1965; basically a ~120 kN mini-RD-270, with two chambers; roughly concurrent with 270's development.

Anonymous No. 15986212

>>15986028
>mogged by a child's toy

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Anonymous No. 15986230

lol,do they really believe this? its not like they are not aware of spacetugs
but I guess it might be possible that Starship is busy the first few years of its operation with starlink, HLS and maybe first mars missions to bother with rideshare for smallsats

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Anonymous No. 15986232

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Anonymous No. 15986237

>>15986072
the cost analysis overview

Anonymous No. 15986240

>>15986230
my guess is starship will be busy and SpaceX will internally convince elon to keep falcon 9 running when it becomes clear it will be a few years into starship until it supplants all the old missions

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Anonymous No. 15986242

>>15986237

Anonymous No. 15986243

>>15986237
Yeah no, I don't believe S2 reentry system and all that fits in that 30% of $13,000 budget.

Anonymous No. 15986244

>>15986230
They're LARPing because telling the obvious truth will get them screamed at.

Anonymous No. 15986245

>>15986243
Flight control can be programmed by a child.

Anonymous No. 15986246

>>15986243
Thats 13 million retard

Anonymous No. 15986247

>>15986219
>second-stage Starships
wtf does that mean? Did they just mean starship?

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>>15986247

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Anonymous No. 15986255

>>15986245
Clearly not no, but I'm not talking about avionics

Anonymous No. 15986257

>>15986250
I missed that, I guess they need to come up with a name for the full stack.

Anonymous No. 15986259

>>15986243
That's million, homie.

Anonymous No. 15986266

>>15986259
Again, makes no sense, Engine are at most half of the cost of a launcher on old launchers, and Raptors are cheap, so it's probably less in this case, give or take $40M minimum for Structure+Avionics. Probably under $150M for a stack tho.

Anonymous No. 15986269

>>15986266
they break it down a bit more

Anonymous No. 15986273

>>15986032
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nqPPt-ojTA

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Anonymous No. 15986277

>>15986269
>>15986266
specifically here >>15986121

Structures 13mil
-5 mil: Stainless steel structures and plumbing (bulk steel would be 0.45mil, but there are specialty items + scrap happens so they estimate 5 mil)
-2 mil: heat shield tiles >>15986249
-2 mil: tanks (20 copv/large tanks at 100k each)
-4 mil: misc valves, advanced tech and parts

Avionics is 3mil (pic related)

Anonymous No. 15986280

>>15986257
Starship Super Heavy

Super Heavy Starship

Anonymous No. 15986283

>>15986280
It's a Super Heavy Starship, it drops Super Heavy and becomes a Starship because it's no longer super heavy and no longer has Super Heavy.

Anonymous No. 15986290

>>15986047
seriously what is this retarded boomer talking point even supposed to mean? Do you think that the CCP runs every single company in China?

Anonymous No. 15986297

>>15986257
>>15986280
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Starship, is in fact, Starship-Super Heavy, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Super Heavy plus Starship. Starship is not a Mars settlement vehicle unto itself, but rather another multimillion dollar component of a fully functioning Earther destruction system made useful by the Super Heavy booster, incinerated beetles, and illegal alien welders comprising a full send as defined by Elon.

Many Mars settlers use a modified version of the Super Heavy system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Super Heavy which is widely used these synods is often called "Starship", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Super Heavy system, developed by the Super Heavy team.

There really is a Starship, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Starship is the rocket: the payload in the system that allocates the Earthers' resources towards ends that will result in their destruction. The rocket is an essential part of an Earther destruction system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of an independent Mars and total beetle extinction. Starship is normally used in combination with the Super Heavy booster: the whole system is basically Super Heavy with Starship added, or Starship-Super Heavy. All the so-called "Starship" bombardments are really bombardments from Starship-Super Heavy.

Anonymous No. 15986308

>>15986297
Thank you.

Anonymous No. 15986315

>>15985463
Where do I find her to marry her?

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Anonymous No. 15986316

>>15986257
also called starship

Anonymous No. 15986322

>>15986252
So, with a nominal 100 ton payload, that's $100k per ton to LEO. For comparison, long distance air freight is $8000 per ton, give or take.

Anonymous No. 15986323

>>>/pol/455760578
/pol/ is being stupid again
>inbefore what where you doing on /pol/
I like to shitpost there.

Anonymous No. 15986324

Why did Vulcan shake SLIM and cause it to land upside down?

Anonymous No. 15986326

>>15986323
what where you doing on /pol/

Anonymous No. 15986328

>>15986324
ULA can't keep getting away with it

Anonymous No. 15986329

>>15986326
They like to shit post there

Anonymous No. 15986331

>>15986326
harvesting vatnik tears.

Anonymous No. 15986336

>>15986172
> “These 470 acres here – we have already found federal dollars to be able to buy. We are in the process and submitted an application,” Garza added. Garza says a grant application to the General Land Office was submitted on January 9.

Oh, so you don't actually have the money and you waited until after SpaceX was at the finish line before even applying?

Anonymous No. 15986342

>>15986331
the only thing worse than a /pol/tard, impressive

Anonymous No. 15986345

>>15986342
Nta but vatniks fucking suck

Anonymous No. 15986348

>>15986058
>chink calling others mutt
every time

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Anonymous No. 15986361

https://payloadspace.com/space-based-solar-project-completes-its-mission/
> This week, the first demonstration probe to ever successfully beam solar power to Earth from orbit completed its year-long mission. In its year circling the Earth, Caltech’s Space Solar Power Demonstrator (SSPD) notched three major successes: proving the functionality of a spacecraft design to form the basis of a future space power station, testing a compact solar cell for collecting solar energy, and, importantly, transmitting a beam of power from space to a ground station.

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Anonymous No. 15986364

https://spacenews.com/nasa-report-offers-pessimistic-take-on-space-based-solar-power/

Anonymous No. 15986365

Just woke up, what the fuck happened

Anonymous No. 15986367

>>15986365
slim did a backflip instead of a frontflip

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Anonymous No. 15986368

https://www.nasa.gov/organizations/otps/space-based-solar-power-report/

https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/otps-sbsp-report-final-tagged-approved-1-8-24-tagged-v2.pdf?emrc=744da1

Anonymous No. 15986369

>>15986361
why don't they just use mirrors to concentrate extra light onto solar panels?

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Anonymous No. 15986370

>>15986365
It rolled over.

Anonymous No. 15986373

>>15986364
> The report concluded that one architecture would produce electricity at a cost of $0.61 per kilowatt-hour, and the other at $1.59 per kilowatt-hour. By contrast, terrestrial renewable systems, such as wind, hydropower and terrestrial solar plants, produce energy at $0.02 to $0.05 per kilowatt-hour.
> “We found that these space-based solar power designs are expensive. They are 12 to 80 times more expensive than if you were going to have renewable energy on the ground,” said Erica Rodgers, science and technology partnership forum lead in NASA’s Office of the Chief Technologist, in a presentation at the AIAA SciTech Forum conference where the agency released the report.

Anonymous No. 15986376

>>15986367
slim shady?

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Anonymous No. 15986382

https://spacenews.com/nasa-study-clean-space-based-solar-power-beaming-possible/

Anonymous No. 15986392

>>15986382
> The new NASA report, withheld for more than a year for technical and political review, shows that there appear to be no clear technical showstoppers for an in-space solar power demonstration mission. It also showed that tapping into technologies under development today by NASA’s global partners could make space solar power beaming feasible soon — within two decades. And because pieces of this promising technology are currently or soon to be available, development requires no miracles — just commitment.

Anonymous No. 15986400

>>15986376
the real slim shady

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Anonymous No. 15986414

>>15986400
Yo, we in the /sfg/ thread, where the real ones meet,
Talking spaceflight dreams, from the ground to the fleet.
Rocket launches, missions, man, it's all elite,
NASA, SpaceX, yeah, we feeling the heat.

Thread buzzing like the engines on a Falcon 9,
Lift-off discussions, watching rockets climb.
Sippin' on that cosmic tea, we passing time,
/sfg/ senpai, in the space groove, in our prime.

(Chorus)
/sfg/ in the zone, space talk on the grind,
Rocket emojis, we leaving Earth behind.
From ISS to Mars, we're on the incline,
/sfg/ thread, where space geeks intertwine.

(Verse 2)
Elon tweets, Jeff Bezos scheming big,
Blue Origin dreams, SpaceX's satellite rig.
Mars colonies, like a futuristic gig,
/sfg/ discussing it all, ain't that the gig?

Delta IV, Atlas V, rockets taking flight,
Starship prototypes, testing in the night.
SpaceX innovations, pushing the height,
/sfg/ thread, where knowledge takes flight.

(Chorus)
/sfg/ in the zone, space talk on the grind,
Rocket emojis, we leaving Earth behind.
From ISS to Mars, we're on the incline,
/sfg/ thread, where space geeks intertwine.

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Anonymous No. 15986428

In your opinion, what is the coolest spacewalk/misson? I think STS-49 is a contender for it's irl KSP shenanigans.
>satellite fucks up and doesn't reach right orbit.
>send some guys up there to bolt a new kicker stage on it
>can't manage to secure the satellite with the tool you made on the ground
>just grab satellite with your fucking hands instead.
>the shittles antenna fucks up and wont retract, so you have to go on a other EVA to manually retract it
By comparison, the EVAs on the ISS are snore fests nowadays

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Anonymous No. 15986432

>>15986382
Every day there's a new potential space startup and people still claim StarShip isn't going to have any future customers. Musk is going to be the first Trillionaire and Emperor of the Spacing Guild.

Anonymous No. 15986433

>>15986428
Not only that, STS-49 was Endeavor's maiden flight.

Anonymous No. 15986434

>>15986432
trannies love the idea of shooting musk

Anonymous No. 15986450

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCouV6swU9g
why do these videos have so few views? is it her voice? is it her face? is it the content?

Anonymous No. 15986453

>>15986450
its the voice for me, grating

Anonymous No. 15986458

>>15986433
As much as people shit on the Shuttles, there were Kino in their own way. Don't get me wrong, the shuttle and it's consequences have been a disaster for American spaceflight, but it did offer a unique capability in an architecture we'll likely never see again. Much like transatlantic Zepplin travel, I don't think space planes will make a comeback.

Anonymous No. 15986460

>>15986315
>>15985463
In Sagamihara. Take the Odakyuu Line from Shinjuku.

Anonymous No. 15986462

>>15986458
True, but at least we get Dream Chaser this year

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Anonymous No. 15986467

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1748493297297858702

Anonymous No. 15986468

>>15986458
The shuttle was the way it was because it was supposed to be doing a lot of payload servicing missions. It sucks that it only was able to perform that a few times.

There might still be a role for crew transport for spaceplanes. I am not sold yet on the idea of putting crew on something that's supposed to get caught by a launch tower. That seems to be the sort of design that would have some shuttle sized black zones. If you could get a spaceplane that could be reused as quickly and easily as Falcon and Starship, you'd have something that would see a lot of work.

Anonymous No. 15986474

>>15986462
I should have specified large space planes. smol ones like x-37b and DC are cool

Anonymous No. 15986476

>>15986468
does starship get caught by the chopsticks? I thought that was just the booster and starship belly flopped onto stubby landing legs.
no that that's a more crew friendly landing architecture

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Anonymous No. 15986477

>>15986119
This presumed constraint lacks justification. What agility (or lack thereof) are they ascribing to the system that could make scheduling difficult compared to medium lift launch vehicles?

Anonymous No. 15986480

>>15986468
Are they planing to adopt that ASAP or will they do landing pad with legs for a while? I think I need to see it to believe it on the chopstick catch to ever get crew rated. I honestly have my doubts on SS being able to land properly with legs on the moon/mars too. Imagine the screeching EDS patients if there's a RUD on the lunar surface.
>role for crew transport for spaceplanes
Until someone comes up with an actual SSTO, I think >>15986474 is what we'll have unless there's a convincing TSTO reusable architecture that shows up

Anonymous No. 15986487

>>15986476
no starship is going to land on the chopsticks as well, those stubby legs were just for testing

Anonymous No. 15986490

>>15986477
I wondered the same thing >>15986230
probably just cope

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Anonymous No. 15986502

>>15986364
>>15986373
>assuming $1000/kg launch costs
BOO HISS GAY

Even in the 70s people knew fully reusable superheavy lift was a prerequisite for SBSP.

Anonymous No. 15986505

>>15986480
I haven't heard anything about them going to back to landing legs for anything other than HLS.

I think that a crew-focused spaceplane that can hold maybe a dozen passengers and gets boosted by an upscaled Falcon 9 clone is probably the most reasonable plan for large scale crew launch that anyone's got.

Anonymous No. 15986512

>>15986487
WRONG. There are no chopsticks on Mars. They NEED legs.

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Anonymous No. 15986517

https://x.com/nasajpl/status/1748511611110002728?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ


OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Anonymous No. 15986522

>>15986512
well obviously HLS Starship and the marsships will have legs, but the vast majority of ships won't have them

Anonymous No. 15986524

>>15986517
Might have flown behind a small hill or some other rise in the terrain which cut off comms. I believe that's what happened last time they lost contact several months ago.

Anonymous No. 15986526

>>15986517
Rip to real one

Anonymous No. 15986528

>>15986517
the martians have begun their attack. we must retaliate.

Anonymous No. 15986529

>>15986517
pouring one out for my girl Ginny.
rest in peace

Anonymous No. 15986536

>>15986517
F

Anonymous No. 15986540

>>15986517
JAXA > USA

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Anonymous No. 15986542

>>15986428
STS-51A for sure.

Anonymous No. 15986544

>>15986517
Good. This farce has gone on long enough.

Anonymous No. 15986546

>>15986517
Will they fire the pilots?

Anonymous No. 15986548

>>15986546
what pilots?

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Anonymous No. 15986584

>>15986517

Anonymous No. 15986595

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Fs6MgeBHOs
Another try at starlink, T-5:00

Anonymous No. 15986601

>>15986517
flew too close the sun

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Anonymous No. 15986602

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1748526916125020472

Anonymous No. 15986606

>>15986595
oh wait hold

Anonymous No. 15986607

HOLD (right at startup)

Anonymous No. 15986610

>>15986602
local man is completely correct as usual

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Anonymous No. 15986616

Axiom's got a cupola

Anonymous No. 15986648

>>15986602
There needs to be a law that the identity of who is tweeting for the sitting president must be added.

Anonymous No. 15986656

>>15986316
>Also called starship
Real smoothbrain hours should be

>1st Stage
Super Heavy Booster
>2nd Stage
Starship
>Full Stack
Super Heavy

Anonymous No. 15986659

>>15986656
No it should be
>super heavy booster
>starship
>mars colonization rocket

Anonymous No. 15986671

>>15986477
Likely launch sites, Super heavy can't be launched adapted for any currently existing launch facility. SpaceX still hasn't finalized the design of the site in Boca Chica.

On the other hand, they can launch Falcons' from Vandenberg, Kennedy and Cape Canaveral.

Anonymous No. 15986675

>15986659
>Mar colonization rocket
Nah, no point in calling it that if it spends half its time hauling starlinks to LEO

Anonymous No. 15986684

>>15986671
I don't see that being a constraint for long: SpaceX looks like they have every intention of mass producing launch sites.

Anonymous No. 15986693

>>15986675
Starlink is the funding mechanism for Mars you turd breather.

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Anonymous No. 15986754

>>15986517
After we flew it into the ground at 20 m/s, the solar panel and battery ceased operating, terminating the mission

Anonymous No. 15986781

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf7vPy_H94Q
did anyone post this yet? i only now saw it in my feed.

Anonymous No. 15986788

>>15986781
>>15984282

previous thread

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Anonymous No. 15986806

https://twitter.com/KenKirtland17/status/1748473833806237864
> NASA's Artemis 3 Mission Architecture as of Early 2024.
>Targeting a landing at the Lunar South Pole in Q4 2026 using NASA's SLS Rocket,Orion Capsule, and HLS Starship lander to land the first humans on the moon since 1972.

Anonymous No. 15986807

>>15986542
Just looked into it. Man pre Challenger NASA actually had a spark of hope and can do attitude.
https://youtu.be/ViuHwsW8fFY?si=mt7nNEF16VQfopGU

Anonymous No. 15986812

>>15986807
Congress told them "no we won't build newer/safer shuttles, get back in the deathtrap, Shinji" and so they were infested with paranoid safety culture as their only defense.

Anonymous No. 15986825

>>15986806
>Roughly 10 Propellant Transfers

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Anonymous No. 15986829

thoughts?

Anonymous No. 15986830

>>15986806
So they just leave an entire Starship in NRHO? Where anyone can get it? That sounds like a threat to Congress to keep a sustained presence in lunar space or the Chinese will steal it.

Anonymous No. 15986834

>>15986830
I don't think it was specified in the contract what SpaceX does with the HLS Starship after the astronauts fuck off

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Anonymous No. 15986838

GOOD MORNING JAPAN SIRS
I HOPE THE MOON LANDER WENT WELL
OH WHATS THAT?
OH NO.
DEEPLY SADDENED

Anonymous No. 15986840

>>15986838
why do you post frogs?
they are not cute or funny
go back to your swamp

Anonymous No. 15986843

>>15986825
A lot of the SpaceX haters will be really ass blasted when it does not take 20 launches for Artemis 3.

Anonymous No. 15986848

>>15986829
I will NOT respond nor comply with any order from the Terran or Martian navies

Anonymous No. 15986850

>>15986843
It’s going to be funny when they lose propellant to boiloff while sitting around for sls delays, and they just keep topping it off with more starship launches

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Anonymous No. 15986854

>>15986840

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 15986856

>>15986854

Anonymous No. 15986864

weekend /sfg/ is the fucking worst

Anonymous No. 15986868

>>15985644
How is Russia ahead of Europe or India or Japan if you are going to include Soviet Union? ROSCOSMOS is still riding on the technology, reliable as it is from USSR. The last time a Russian spacecraft left the orbit before the failed Luna-25 was in the late '80s. Either delete Soviet Union or degrade Russia's ranking. Also, how is Japan ahead of India considering current trends (last 20 years or so)? It also won't be long before China surpasses the Soviets.

Anonymous No. 15986872

>>15986616
About time. I was wondering if they were making progress on their station hardware.

Anonymous No. 15986873

i eat. i shit. i eat. i shit. i die.

Anonymous No. 15986875

>>15986868
Russia actually has active rockets unlike Europe.

Anonymous No. 15986876

>>15986868
A particularly energetic rock is a more relevant space program than europe.

Anonymous No. 15986881

>>15986876
Bwahahaha

Anonymous No. 15986888

Could Dragon use its super dracos to reboost the ISS? If it's already docked they won't need it for FTS right?

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Anonymous No. 15986905

>schizo loses xir shit at anime
>doesn't speak a peep about fucking /mlp/
somebody do something
>>15986838
>>15986854
stupid frogposter

Anonymous No. 15986906

>>15986888
no
ISS reboost is possible from the american side but I forget what's necessary

Anonymous No. 15986911

>>15986906
telling the Russians to fuck off, adding a new life support pack, and forcibly deorbiting Mir one and a half?

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Anonymous No. 15986918

>>15986856

Anonymous No. 15986920

>>15986829
Without watching the video, I'm already prepared to throw rocks

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Anonymous No. 15986921

https://spacenews.com/google-and-att-join-155-million-ast-spacemobile-investment/

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Anonymous No. 15986922

https://spacenews.com/astrobotic-to-begin-formal-investigation-into-failed-peregrine-mission/

Anonymous No. 15986923

>>15986922
> Allowing Peregrine to reenter was a “difficult decision,” Thornton said. “The thing we were weighing was, should we send this back to Earth or should we take the risk to operate it in cislunar space?” Operating it longer could have involved having the spacecraft fly by or impact the moon, or possibly go into orbit around it, depending on the health of its propulsion system and remaining propellant.
>Space safety led them to choose an Earth impact. “It’s important that we all act as responsible parties and make sure that we are keeping space available and accessible for all,” he said. Of particular concern, he later explained, was that continued use of the lander’s damaged propulsion system “could have possibly caused a catastrophic situation that would potentially create more debris.”
space fucking safety lmaooo

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Anonymous No. 15986926

https://europeanspaceflight.com/arianegroup-prepare-to-ship-ariane-6-flight-hardware-to-kourou/

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Anonymous No. 15986928

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1748576118234362336

what did musk mean by this?

Anonymous No. 15986931

>>15986928
As far as SpaceX is concerned orbital habs are payloads for other people. Starship is built to optimize colonizing surfaces.

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Anonymous No. 15986934

Can Starliner do moon missions?

Anonymous No. 15986935

>>15986934
no

Anonymous No. 15986936

>>15986876
You are underestimating them. A lot of spacecraft avionics and electronics are manufactured in Germany and France. When the fruits of the Artemis Accords become truly realised, those 2 countries (AKA those that are carrying will be very important.

Anonymous No. 15986937

>>15986935

Why?

And what's the point of Starliner when crew dragon exists?

Anonymous No. 15986938

>>15986937
to give boeing money

Anonymous No. 15986939

>>15986928
Probably that they want to build space stations that orbit the Moon/Mars?

Anonymous No. 15986941

Pinch to zoom: Unlocked

Anonymous No. 15986943

>>15986923
>space safety for an orbit that is basically completely empty, for an object that is already tracked
thank you space ethicists, very cool

Anonymous No. 15986949

>>15986937
It doesn't have the power, propulsion, or radiation shielding to go there and back, and its heatshield wouldn't survive lunar reentry. There's a reason Apollo and Orion have big fat service modules attached to the capsule, and Starship is the logical reusable evolution of those designs.

Anonymous No. 15986950

>>15986937
You trust riding elon craft after the whole ev failure?

Anonymous No. 15986953

>>15986950
aren't you too busy welding a dummy door back onto a plane to be posting on 4chan?

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Anonymous No. 15986961

>>15986950
>he doesn't know about the actual SpaceX Dragon failure
Go back

Anonymous No. 15986979

>>15986953
>>15986961
so you choose to dogpile me with no argument. not suprised

Anonymous No. 15986982

>>15986979
crew dragon is objectively safe
meanwhile starliner is years late and STILL hasn't flown crew because of faults in test flights, some of which were absolutely amateur hour shit

Anonymous No. 15987004

Why is everyone so bad at landing on the Moon?

Anonymous No. 15987029

>>15987004
China rules the Moon

Anonymous No. 15987098

>>15986517
Lightning leg won...

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Anonymous No. 15987115

soulless vs soul

Anonymous No. 15987124

>>15986937
Competition is good, it's just a shame the competition is Boeing.
>>15987004
Mass autism and no way to test shit on earth.

Anonymous No. 15987140

https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/1748314333031915874

Reminder, starlink begin picked by John Deere is a huge deal. 1+ million farm vehicles will be required with starlink. That's a huge revenue stream. If they're paying business rates, it's a billion+ per year revenue

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Anonymous No. 15987183

New Iranian SLV

Anonymous No. 15987188

>>15987183
Looks good

Anonymous No. 15987201

>>15987115
now post axiom's

Anonymous No. 15987206

>>15987201
I don't have it

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>>15987206

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Anonymous No. 15987215

Remember what they took from you

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Anonymous No. 15987217

>talking to group of NASA spaceflight ppl
>"do you know the reason why we're doing NRHO"
>"I know the reason and you know the reason"
>room is dead silent
>"we're doing it because Orion doesn't have enough delta-v to get down to lunar orbit

ouch, that was one painful talk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoJsPvmFixU

Anonymous No. 15987219

>>15987217
>low* lunar orbit

Anonymous No. 15987220

>>15987217
It's actually depressing

Anonymous No. 15987222

>>15986091
NOT milling isogrid out of thick aluminium sheets

Anonymous No. 15987224

>>15987222
We need more stainless steel rockets

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Anonymous No. 15987231

H3 Heavy

Anonymous No. 15987252

>>15987231
Looks goofy

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Anonymous No. 15987257

>>15987115
Reject modernity

Anonymous No. 15987262

>>15987231

There is no reason why any nation whose rockets can be delivered from factory to launch site via ship should be using multi-core designs.
Just build a 8m+ core.

Anonymous No. 15987263

>>15986290
>CCP runs every business
Obviously not, but let's not pretend like the CCP doesn't have a vested interest in controlling their own aerospace industry

Anonymous No. 15987270

I think CASC 'is not allowed' to do things that are considered high risk or prone to failing
It's a face/reputation thing
So it delegates some work to private companies and then absorb the knowledge if successful

Anonymous No. 15987288

Cygnus on a Falcon's just a few days away

Anonymous No. 15987293

So we europeans are pretty much banned from flying onboard NASA missions but we also can't build our own crewed vehicle, so we must buy private american seats?

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Anonymous No. 15987296

Staging

>>15987295
>>15987295
>>15987295
>>15987295
>>15987295

Anonymous No. 15987297

>>15986834
SpaceX could it it back home after refueling it or land it on moon again or leave it in NRHO as a second base

Anonymous No. 15987684

>>15986345
don't mention them anon you're going to cause a meltdown where one of them shows up and calls everyone a ukrainian jewish nazi shill.