Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 07:14:53 UTC No. 16140089

Vacuum images look so crisp

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 07:16:14 UTC No. 16140090

Whens the next shartship launch rumored to be taking place?
inb4 two weeks

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 07:18:09 UTC No. 16140092

Dragonfly will be landing in Shangri-la dunes, and will fly north to Selk crater, just north of Titan's equator.
It's scheduled to land in 2034, when Titan would be transitioning from Winter to Spring in the northern hemisphere, meaning the lakes will begin to evaporate as it warms. The primary mission goals for the initial 3 years of operation will hang around Selk crater exclusively. By the end of those 3 years, the northern hemisphere will be well into Spring, near the start of Summer, in which the most shallow lakes will have evaporated.
Titan's circumference 10,052mi/16,177km. Assuming the all lakes in picrel are deep enough to not have evaporated, the closest lake to Selk crater is roughly 3,000mi/4,800km away.
Dragonfly is planned to make one "hop" per Titan day (16 Earth days). A hop is expected to be at least 10 miles. Lets be generous and say 30mi per hop. This equates to 100 hops, or 1600 days (4.38 Earth years). Conceivably a mission extension could spend 4-5 years flying nonstop without breaks to the nearest lake. Unfortunately, we have no way to know where the nearest lakes will actually be, as by then (2042) the northern hemisphere will be deep into Summer, and all of the lakes closest to the equator mapped by Cassini will be gone. There won't be an orbiter on this mission to tell us where they are either. It's unlikely that a mission extension will be approved to search for the closest lakes.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 07:23:03 UTC No. 16140099

>>16140092
it really does frustrate me that it takes so long to get to the outer planets.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 07:23:25 UTC No. 16140101

>>16140096
maybe someone liked it, thought it was a good post and that it deserved to be in the real /sfg/ instead of in a gay early staged fake /sfg/

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 07:25:22 UTC No. 16140102

>>16140099
you're impatient, you should take up fasting. fasting teaches patience and perseverance, do it occasionally and you'll become patient enough to set and reach long term goals

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 07:29:01 UTC No. 16140108

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 07:31:09 UTC No. 16140113

>>16140099
Hope Dragonfly makes it. What frustrates me is that they changed the chief flight systems engineer from this dude that knew what he was talking about:
https://youtu.be/u5sAoADS2yU?si=Zlwp4iT58pTtaHoK&t=1288

to a literal Karen:
https://dragonfly.jhuapl.edu/Our-Team/

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 07:33:08 UTC No. 16140116

>>16140113

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 07:33:34 UTC No. 16140118

remind that even the dry part of Titan is much more interesting than Mars.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 07:49:51 UTC No. 16140134

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqdhAkgoodI
how did i miss this?

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 07:52:09 UTC No. 16140137

>>16140118
even Huygens' landing site resembled a dried-up lakebed, with rounded cobbles, and evidence of a shoreline and drainage channels. Strange, considering how close it is to the equator. maybe something going on Titan-Saturn similar to Milankovitch cycles on Earth impacting the seasons long term

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 07:54:36 UTC No. 16140138

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx4UzkzjERM
epic content

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 07:57:06 UTC No. 16140140

>>16140137
it rains even at the Equator but only every few decades or something. The area gets periodically flooded probably. Can't wait to see an actual photo

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 08:01:33 UTC No. 16140144

>>16140137
>>16140140
>According to a computer model, intense rainstorms should occur in normally rainless equatorial areas during Titan's vernal and autumnal equinoxes—enough liquid to carve out the type of channels that Huygens found
According to wikipedia

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 08:13:40 UTC No. 16140162

>>16140144
So even if Dragonfly sticks around at the equator long enough (Titan year =29 earth years) we should see some rain. Considering it has an mmrtg it should last quite a while.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 08:23:03 UTC No. 16140168

>>16140162
that's based on one model, I read elsewhere that the equatorial rains could occur between decade/century long drought periods. in any case, it was 50% methane humidity at Huygens site, and oases are possible. imagine getting HD video of rain on Titan.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 09:48:48 UTC No. 16140259

>>16140089
Photos on earth could look like this too if we removed the atmosphere.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 09:56:03 UTC No. 16140268

>>16140259
Nah, I'm rather attached to breathing and blue skies

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 09:58:43 UTC No. 16140271

I want you to tell me when the fuck bombing from orbit will become a real thing... Please!

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 09:59:54 UTC No. 16140273

>>16140271
I will tell you as soon as I find out. I promise you this

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 10:01:12 UTC No. 16140276

>>16140134
Welp we're all waiting for you to give us the "quick run down" now that you've finished watching

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 10:01:46 UTC No. 16140278

>>16140276
>probabilistic

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 10:03:25 UTC No. 16140282

>>16140278
I'm being serious

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 10:07:22 UTC No. 16140286

>>16140268
You'll never make it on mars than.
>>16140271
What even are the benefits to orbital bombardment? Surely conventional methods are cheaper, quicker and easier?

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 10:12:05 UTC No. 16140290

>>16140286
>What even are the benefits to orbital bombardment?
Large latent kinetic energy of the projectile, and that's basically it. Everything else about them is worse.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 10:24:36 UTC No. 16140297

>>16140290
So you basically have to be able to ship tons into orbit and then back again, and using them is an atrocity on par with using a nuke?
Yeah they seem really pointless unless you really can't get bombers or missiles to where you want to strike I guess.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 10:42:13 UTC No. 16140305

>>16140297
Nah, the thing that makes Nukes atrocious is the lingering transmutated radioisotopes and radioactive bomb components. A kinetic kill vehicle is just a big bullet.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:30:54 UTC No. 16140333

>>16140168
>imagine getting HD video of rain on Titan.
I hope the low bitrate allows this.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:32:22 UTC No. 16140335

I sit in my mundane bedroom and all I want to do is explore the cosmos

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 11:42:01 UTC No. 16140342

>>16140286
But you have to rule the air space to bomb convetionally, so bombing from orbit is good for taking out airports or such infrastructure out of literally nowhere.

I've heard that kilogram in geostationary orbit is like $40k now, which is not so much for such tactical nifty.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:28:52 UTC No. 16140385

>>16140342
>I've heard that kilogram in geostationary orbit is like $40k now
is that the wholesale price?

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:31:49 UTC No. 16140390

>>16140090
April.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:33:22 UTC No. 16140393

>>16140390
Ape Rill.

Fag oT.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:33:29 UTC No. 16140394

>>16140113
>We will not be exploring the lakes of methane, as hydrocarbons are a systemic artifact of while male colonial racism.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:37:02 UTC No. 16140402

>>16140086

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:42:47 UTC No. 16140416

>>16140385
Yes.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 12:47:15 UTC No. 16140423

Bros...

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 13:04:50 UTC No. 16140445

>>16140423

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 13:20:15 UTC No. 16140464

>>16140137
Saturn has an entire AU between it's apohelion and perihelion (Nov 29 2032)

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 13:28:29 UTC No. 16140475

>>16140423
oh no....

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 13:33:08 UTC No. 16140484

>>16140086
The US government should seize SpaceX and make it a division of NASA

Melon Husk has shown that he is too irresponsible to be running it

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 13:34:08 UTC No. 16140485

>>16140484
E - Long Husk

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 13:40:32 UTC No. 16140492

And saddle them with that ShitShip!? Now way man. Nasa can get some responsible people, working on falcon 9 and perhaps delete the legs and whole reusability charade to make it actually cheaper, but no way you want to saddle them with that billion dollar boondoggle.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 13:51:58 UTC No. 16140498

test

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 13:53:52 UTC No. 16140502

>>16140498
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 13:54:57 UTC No. 16140504

>>16140502
why was the other thread deleted?

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 13:59:24 UTC No. 16140509

>>16140504
schizophrenia most likely.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 14:18:47 UTC No. 16140532

>>16140286
Contrary to what most people believe the mars sky is actually blue, you can still see it at the right conditions.
The reddish hue is only due to dust.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 14:23:42 UTC No. 16140537

>>16140090
1.2 Ms

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 14:28:59 UTC No. 16140542

>>16140335
do psychosislets really?

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 14:30:56 UTC No. 16140544

>>16140297
>and using them is an atrocity on par with using a nuke?
If you put a nuke up there, it's both an atrocity and also violating several treaties. Think of the possibilities!

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 14:45:41 UTC No. 16140553

>>16140532
youre fucking idiotic. you are a clown

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 14:53:26 UTC No. 16140559

>>16140532
it does look blue desu

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 14:53:51 UTC No. 16140560

not that anybody cared the last two times I brought it up, but USC's RPL failed their amateur space shot attempt over the weekend when a flight computer deployed parachutes early.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:13:59 UTC No. 16140583

>>16140560
>YANK!

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:17:31 UTC No. 16140585

>>16140089
>>16140268
Holy shit, could this be the missing link in 3d rendering? Not putting the camera and render scene in a volumetric body that mimics the properies of Earth's armosphere is what actually causes scenes to look too clean and sharp?

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:19:45 UTC No. 16140589

>>16140585
idk? Is this a running problem in cgi today or something?

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:25:25 UTC No. 16140599

>>16140585
Always has been. Blurring things asthey get away from the camera with depth of field is a cheap way to mimic the refraction in the atmosphere, but since gaymers don't like it a lot of amateur CG doesnt use it.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:25:33 UTC No. 16140600

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbloJvehM0A
>LIVE at SpaceX Starbase Perlite Vacuum Work and Tank Shell Demolition

its over
(for the tanks)

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:26:31 UTC No. 16140602

>>16140600
Spay sex has a crawler jsut like NASA but puny, where will the goalpost move next?

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:26:38 UTC No. 16140604

>>16140560
they didn't check their staging? i guess they really are amateurs

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:31:03 UTC No. 16140607

>>16140599
uhh pretty sure the atmosphere doesn't blur out it only dulls out the color

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:33:05 UTC No. 16140611

>>16140607
it does both. It's why it's impossible to get a crisp shot of another planet from Earth

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:39:44 UTC No. 16140615

>>16140333
Add a fission powered relay orbiter network, like Titanlink.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:48:41 UTC No. 16140627

>>16140611
ok

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:53:06 UTC No. 16140633

>>16140627
CGI

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 16:12:08 UTC No. 16140649

>>16140633
you play too much video-games

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 16:19:56 UTC No. 16140658

>>16140627
>planet btw

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 16:21:29 UTC No. 16140661

>>16140627
I hate space so fucking much bros.
I ONLY like planets. everything between them exists solely to spite me

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 16:24:03 UTC No. 16140666

>>16140423

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 16:26:25 UTC No. 16140671

>>16140661
We need to cross vast voids to get to any planet outside the solar system. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 16:29:31 UTC No. 16140675

>>16140671
>We need to cross vast voids to get to any planet outside the solar system
and the only way to cross them is meme drives.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 16:29:33 UTC No. 16140676

>>16140661
Asteroids are okay and the ISM is cool...

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 16:29:37 UTC No. 16140677

>>16140671
what are you talking about?

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 16:31:05 UTC No. 16140681

>>16140671
*we need to cross vast voids inside the solar system
shit sucks

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 16:33:47 UTC No. 16140684

>>16140677
wym?

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 16:42:04 UTC No. 16140697

>>16140649
I love the fact that they just stuck new solar panels in front of the old ones, it looks so weird.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 16:44:36 UTC No. 16140699

>>16140697
should've detached the old ones and let it float away. They would've deorbited quickly ( high surface area to mass ratio )

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 17:11:00 UTC No. 16140745

>>16140585
There is one more part: most scenes aren't looking through a camera with all its associated optical components, which add distortions of their own. Autism a simulated camera into existence (or even the limits of the Mark 1 Eyeball) and you get a more traditional experience.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 17:12:52 UTC No. 16140747

>>16140745

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 17:15:33 UTC No. 16140751

>>16140747
Space photos aren't 3D renders, silly.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 17:17:08 UTC No. 16140754

>>16140751

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 17:26:58 UTC No. 16140765

/sfg/ deep dive

>pre-Dec 2018
Various unconnected launch threads
>17 Dec 2018
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/10223076
Initial catalyst, quadruple launch thread, first boca chica pics
>21 Dec 2018
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/10223076#p10230858
First suggestion of "spaceflight general"
>21 Dec 2018
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/10231408
SpaceX GPS launch thread, staged from previous launch thread
>22 Dec 2018
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/10231408#p10235763
First collective OC
>23 Dec 2018
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/10237471
First Starship/BFR discussion thread, starting relatively unbroken thread chain
>18 Feb 2019
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/10399256
First thread with "spaceflight general" in subject line

some other notable moments-
>19 Apr 2019
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/10562453#p10562640
First suggestion to use /sfg/ in general name instead of /sg/
>19 Apr 2019
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/10571535
First thread using /sfg/ in subject line
>1 Aug 2019
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/10853630#p10854978
First post of SLS is real copypasta on /sfg/ (or /sci/ in general)
>03 May 2020
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/11632487#p11632831
Creation of 4ASS
>10 Aug 2020
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/11993520#p11994869
First Krystal post

>09 Jun 2020
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/11779749#p11780018
First appearance of PROOONT-anon
>07 Dec 2020
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/12425748#p12430004
First appearance of the Zubrin sniffer.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 17:30:08 UTC No. 16140771

>>16140765
appreciate this compilation of important historical events. I joined shortly after Perseverance landed so that must've been 2021. Time flies.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 17:37:22 UTC No. 16140777

>>16140765
Clear was Oct 6 2020
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/12198491#p12199731

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 17:39:19 UTC No. 16140779

>>16140777
Checked and added

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 17:42:23 UTC No. 16140781

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 17:42:44 UTC No. 16140782

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 17:56:52 UTC No. 16140803

>>16140765
It's been a trip

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:11:10 UTC No. 16140836

>>16140765
>first oc was the fairy
welp im ruined. atleast ive been here longer than zubrin anon and krystoid. i submit to the fairygods.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:12:34 UTC No. 16140838

>>16140765
>>16140777
>krystal predates clear
The blue fox is an /sfg/ tradition.
I still remember the first time I was baited.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:14:50 UTC No. 16140841

>>16140838
You forcefeed it to us and everybody that sees if spits it out, Merc. It is not a tradition if only two people do it and everybody else hates it.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:17:26 UTC No. 16140844

>>16140841
I don't do it, but I don't hate it

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:17:27 UTC No. 16140845

>both of first krystalposts were porn on a blue board
>one reply is him samefagging to justify posting more
>the other two say fuck off
>both posts deleted
what did mercrantos mean by this?

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:23:57 UTC No. 16140855

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:26:28 UTC No. 16140859

I would be willing to add the launch schedule to the OP if you guys want, and other helpful links.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:28:45 UTC No. 16140866

>>16140859
I don't really need to see
>falcon
>falcon
>falcon
at the start of every thread

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:30:17 UTC No. 16140867

>>16140866
Well then how about just links to the launch schedule, and other things like the 24/7 NSF stream or LabPadres channel, things that you yourself can just go and observe instead of being required to change it?

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:31:28 UTC No. 16140868

>>16140866
yeah, its trainspotting tier at this point (which tank watching isn't because that is speculating about the new hardware)

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:31:35 UTC No. 16140869

>>16140859
No thanks. We prefer to keep the OP simple compared to all the other inferior generals

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:33:02 UTC No. 16140871

>>16140869
Fair enough. Ill respect the tradition thats come in to place, I usually like keeping it the same for the most part as well

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:35:20 UTC No. 16140876

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:42:21 UTC No. 16140884

>>16140671
The Atlantic ocean was once a vast void too

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:45:26 UTC No. 16140888

>>16140884
I'm not happy about ocean either

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:47:48 UTC No. 16140894

>>16140888

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:55:39 UTC No. 16140910

>>16140589
Always has been a problem, at least in photorealistic environments.
>>16140745
Oh shit yeah, I almost forgot. You can physically simulate a camera in most 3D programs with a physically based path/ray traced rendering engine.

First time it all just sort of clicked for me was when I was playing with scenes featuring volumetric scattering, doubly so when putting the camera inside of a properly simulated atmosphere shader featuring raymarching and all that good shit.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 18:56:58 UTC No. 16140914

>>16140910
how bout you post some screenshots to substantiate your claims

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:01:05 UTC No. 16140923

>>16140765
Is the /sci/archive working for x now?

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:02:16 UTC No. 16140926

>>16140923
Yes https://warosu.org/sci/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=%22starship+will+never+fly%22

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:02:59 UTC No. 16140928

>>16140910
youre retarded.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:06:33 UTC No. 16140935

>>16140423
Tom Meuller when he sees a cat apparently

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:10:01 UTC No. 16140942

>>16140765
I'm so glad I slapped that giant Cirno on that OC

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:11:04 UTC No. 16140944

>>16140765
Jesus where did the fucking time go

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:11:42 UTC No. 16140945

>>16140836

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:12:23 UTC No. 16140946

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvK-DujvpSY
thoughts?

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:14:27 UTC No. 16140950

>>16140765
I should really stop coming here

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:17:01 UTC No. 16140957

>>16140950
don't forget, you're here forever

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:29:53 UTC No. 16140971

>>16140423

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:33:31 UTC No. 16140976

I don’t have EDS and I love Musk/SpaceX but recently Elon Musk has been growing more and more retarded, insufferable, and reddit-tier

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:33:52 UTC No. 16140980

Spaceflight industry has another shitposting CEO

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:35:15 UTC No. 16140982

>>16140980
oh no no the twitter rocket trannies are not gonna like this one

do *clap* better *clap* !

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:35:21 UTC No. 16140983

>>16140980
leftards lol

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:36:54 UTC No. 16140989

>>16140946
>reeeeeing into the wilderness for a mate that can't hear you or doesn't care

he's literally me

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:40:21 UTC No. 16140995

>>16140976
a good friend of mine earlier said that he had a terminal case of 9gag brain

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:42:56 UTC No. 16140999

bribby pibbys

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VapF-2BZyoY?

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:43:06 UTC No. 16141000

>>16140995
and a bit of ifunny sprinkled on top, but yeah

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:49:19 UTC No. 16141006

>>16140928
>>16140914

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:54:42 UTC No. 16141011

>>16140950
Nobody gets off Elon's ride.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:02:44 UTC No. 16141020

>>16140980
You're missing an important contemporary event: https://nypost.com/2024/04/19/tech/google-ceo-says-office-not-a-place-to-debate-politics-after-firing-28-for-anti-israel-sit-ins/

In other news the FAA finally made it impossible to pull a Varda:
https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/22/faa_now_requires_reentry_vehicles/

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:03:06 UTC No. 16141021

>>16140914
>model a physical camera inside your 3d software according to real world diagrams and formulas
>render it in an unbiased renderer where light behaves it would in reality
>it functions like a real camera
>model a physically accurate planet or atmospheric volume with real world data
>use the same scattering equations and other resources that are freely available to you regarding atmospheric properties such as haze, extinction, absorption, etc
>it functions like a real atmosphere
there is nothing to substantiate about this
this is all basic and well understood shit in 3d graphics
>>16140928
the hell are you being a belligerent sook about

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:04:52 UTC No. 16141024

>>16141021
it's also prohibitively expensive

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:11:32 UTC No. 16141033

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:20:44 UTC No. 16141045

How far is the billionaires "Fuck you and thank you for all the fish" plan coming along?

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:22:21 UTC No. 16141051

>>16141045
That's a funny way to ask "hop when?" I like it.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:24:24 UTC No. 16141058

>>16141051
I don't know whats worse, being stranded on a new planet with a bunch of uppity snots who have no idea that a hoe can be a gardening implement, or being on an environmentally fucked planet with the remaining uppity snots that were not rich enough to hop.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:28:50 UTC No. 16141067

really makes you think

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:31:31 UTC No. 16141071

>>16140745
>Autism a simulated camera into existence
It's not actually as autistic as you might think. Pixar created fully digital simulated cameras to use in their movies ages ago. Renderman has physical based cameras built-in with easy to model lenses through the RixProjection interface. Some people on the Corona forums created presets for them. Cinema 4D had a similar scene camera project. Indigo Renderer could do it in the late 2000s, so could Sketchup. People using LuxRender in Blender way back also managed to do it. Also heard V-Ray has a physical camera but I don't think that's the same from what I remember.
>>16141024
As always, when you're actually simulating something. Whether that'd be a camera or an atmosphere. The fact that we can even do this on our home computers to begin with now is a minor miracle. It also depends on whether or not the rendering code can actually handle it. Cycles for instance despite its prowess and efficiency (especially with K-Cycles) was notoriously fucking bad at doing volumetric scattering (at least as far as planetary atmospheres are concerned) to the point where you were literally better off making your own volumetric engine. And even then from what I remember when you get to stuff like adding haze the render times go up drastically. There are still some tricks you can utilize however to cut down the render times so much to the point where it is basically free. Relatively speaking.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:34:01 UTC No. 16141077

>>16140980
kek this guy reposted a stonetoss comic a while back about the dogs and intelligence
so much whining in the comments

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:34:04 UTC No. 16141079

>>16140841
>clearschizo still is obsessed with one random twitter user to this day
completely buck broken

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:38:42 UTC No. 16141085

>>16140980
I watched that video. Milei looks unhinged but he actually speaks normally.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:39:17 UTC No. 16141086

>>16141067
Really does

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:40:12 UTC No. 16141088

>>16141086
LMAO, reg bloat doing fuck all there

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:50:42 UTC No. 16141105

>>16141088
The problem is that every time a law is passed that is supposed to cut down on emissions politicians (payed by industry) water it down and then you end up with shit like carbon credits, which means jack shit changes. And for some reason then the politicians throw in the environmental part with social or governance issues, that have literally nothing to do with it, but give the whole thing a bad rep because now it's the trannies who want to take away your rockets (they're obviously phallic and thus a sign of the patriarchy or something, build one that looks like a vagina...)

The only people who profit here are business majors (consultants), lawyers and politicians.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:52:16 UTC No. 16141109

>>16140976
>>16140995
it's the most peculiar thing. like he's always been a redditor the way he talks, but now it's sprinkled with fringe conservatism

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:55:03 UTC No. 16141113

>>16141085
he has that ashkenazi look

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 20:59:42 UTC No. 16141117

>>16140276
>it would only take them 2 years to send the power generation rovers to the moon if they had enough money
>their tech eliminates the lunar dust problem because it runs a current through their hardware which deflects the dust

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 21:00:44 UTC No. 16141118

>>16141117
oh and their power generation rover is undergoing testing at nasa

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 21:04:07 UTC No. 16141124

>>16140615
no orbiter sorry

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 21:04:23 UTC No. 16141126

>>16141067
>>16141086
It really, really does.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 21:21:05 UTC No. 16141148

hop when?

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 21:21:27 UTC No. 16141151

>>16141148
two weeks

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 21:25:24 UTC No. 16141157

>>16141148
when fusion reactors become viable, so in two weeks or so

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 21:28:39 UTC No. 16141163

>>16141148
One fortnight

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 21:29:04 UTC No. 16141165

>>16141148
When the chudmonkey sings

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 21:29:55 UTC No. 16141168

>>16141148
a bakers dozen

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 21:35:48 UTC No. 16141175

We need to send more animals to space. I'm thinking a Basset Hound. Imagine all that droopy skin in 0g.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 21:50:09 UTC No. 16141194

>>16141045
The plan is for all the poors to leave, retard. The rich get a low pop pristine earth all to themselves.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 21:58:44 UTC No. 16141205

>>16141175
Retarded. What does that accomplish that hasnt already been done? Nothing

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:00:58 UTC No. 16141210

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/nasa-officially-greenlights-3-35-billion-mission-to-saturns-moon-titan/

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:02:09 UTC No. 16141212

>>16141205
It accomplishes seeing all that droopy skin in 0g. Obviously. Dumbass.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:03:04 UTC No. 16141213

>>16141194
>pristine

Yeah after they clean up several whole continents of trash under every leaf, the ocean of fuck knows how much plastic and other garbage, aromatic rings and other persistent chemicals from the water cycle and micoplastic dust from every square inch of the globe.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:03:48 UTC No. 16141215

>>16141124
we have orbiter at home

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:04:43 UTC No. 16141217

>>16141210
fucking stupid. cancel dragonfly

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:06:19 UTC No. 16141220

>>16141213
all of which is surprisingly doable on a long enough time scale without the poors constantly adding new pollution

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:06:34 UTC No. 16141221

>>16141217
you seem mad

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:07:05 UTC No. 16141222

https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1782526783616643225

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:07:22 UTC No. 16141223

>>16141205
It'd be cute and fun

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:07:23 UTC No. 16141224

>>16141221
yes i am.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:08:14 UTC No. 16141227

>>16141222
literally anyone on sfg could be an astronaut if they just grow up and swallow there pride

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:08:23 UTC No. 16141229

>>16141222
Hey, I've historically lacked access to space, where's my seat?

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:09:23 UTC No. 16141231

>>16141227
are you thinking that we're all do nothings that arent in the space industry or something? some of us are actually planning on going and making life choices on that yknow

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:10:03 UTC No. 16141233

>>16141222
warlords' favorite nephews get rides on sounding rockets and bo gets a bunch of token minorities for their pr department. everybody wins

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:10:18 UTC No. 16141234

https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/1782394822285734209

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:11:33 UTC No. 16141237

https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1782410928094327030

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:12:34 UTC No. 16141240

>>16141210
https://twitter.com/Dr_ThomasZ/status/1782485440458625474

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:14:20 UTC No. 16141243

irl Titan a smoggy shit

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:14:51 UTC No. 16141244

>>16141237
Makes sense. Even if they don't get to 144 launches this year they're still going to push for an even bigger number in 2025 and drone ship turnaround has been a bit of a bottleneck.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:23:02 UTC No. 16141254

>>16141105
schizo take. not buying your bugs. not eting them too. iwill enjoy dying here on this earth if it makes you angry.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:25:22 UTC No. 16141255

>>16141222
>>16141194
speak of the devil and he doth appear.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:25:40 UTC No. 16141256

>>16141215
why did someone put it in a sock?

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:25:56 UTC No. 16141257

*domes niggas from over the horizon*

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:32:37 UTC No. 16141263

>>16141058

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:36:09 UTC No. 16141267

>>16141240
What missions were they spending more on during covid to try and keep on schedule?

How does spending more on a mission -- because of “supply chain inefficiencies” -- keep it “on-schedule”? Is the money fixing the inefficiencies? I guess he means they had to pay more money and source from other vendors?

Why does that, in turn, increase the cost of missions that had to be kicked down the road?

I like dr zurb but “le covid” seems like such an easy cop-out answer

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:41:09 UTC No. 16141276

>>16140765
>First Krystal post
Based big blue tiddies

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:52:10 UTC No. 16141290

>>16141256
It's just a bad render

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:53:24 UTC No. 16141293

>>16141267
Some of it is increased overhead due to a longer timeline. Payroll and rent still need to be paid at JPL even if the government is locking everyone out of the office.

The rest of it is total bullshit.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:53:40 UTC No. 16141295

Starship is a render with a simulated camera

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:56:29 UTC No. 16141300

>>16141256
They're building a museum building around the shuttle. The covers are to protect it from falling debris. [insert Challenger joke]

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:59:47 UTC No. 16141306

>>16141295
Starship is real. You've seen it down at boca chica. We're building the pez dispenser. we have all the engines done. ready to be put on the test stand at starbase... I don't see any hardware for a blue moon lander, except that he's going to put astronauts on a cargo lander and that becomes the blue moon. it's not that easy in rocketry

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:00:21 UTC No. 16141307

>>16141306
>we

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:01:22 UTC No. 16141309

Starship? Still a spaceplane

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:02:57 UTC No. 16141312

>>16141309
Delusional

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:05:14 UTC No. 16141314

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:06:31 UTC No. 16141316

>>16141314
New Glenn doesn't even have the strakes anymore

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:10:40 UTC No. 16141323

lipniggers will ignore this

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:14:56 UTC No. 16141325

toothfags will ignore this

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:17:42 UTC No. 16141327

>>16141314
New Glenn can suck my dick

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:18:52 UTC No. 16141328

>>16141323
Undeniable.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:25:17 UTC No. 16141331

>>16140765
>tfw I'm still here
>I was that quad launch thread OP, among other things

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:29:06 UTC No. 16141336

>>16141327
Red pill me on hydrazine fluorine

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:30:40 UTC No. 16141337

>>16141336
woosh, your cancer now has cancer (but at high exhaust velocity)

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:31:29 UTC No. 16141339

>>16141336
stupid frogposter

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:33:20 UTC No. 16141340

>>16141175
The best pets in 0g would be genetically engineered octopuses. Very smart, able to jet themselves around in the air, many arms to hold onto things. The only problem is they live in the water but I think genetic engineering could rectify that. After all, they're related to snails and many snails live in the air. Splice some snail DNA into octopuses and they'd be good to go.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:33:32 UTC No. 16141341

>>16141309

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:36:21 UTC No. 16141342

>>16141336
good in theory, I don't know if its even used in practise because of the deadly nature of the chemicals involved.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:36:25 UTC No. 16141343

>>16141234
What is a swifty?

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:37:56 UTC No. 16141345

>>16141340
Furthermore, as fish, they're already accustomed to moving around in three dimensions. All land animals except the particularly smart ones are likely unable to cope with life not bound to a 2d plane. Maybe monkeys could adapt.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:38:42 UTC No. 16141346

>>16141343
Taylor Swift fan iirc, there's something in the news about them right now

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:38:43 UTC No. 16141347

>>16141343
you posted one

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:38:54 UTC No. 16141348

>>16141343
something to do with taylor swift perhaps, but I dont understand the relevance.
could be a reference to this account?

https://twitter.com/DrVonBraun/status/1781186026897125398

🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:39:24 UTC No. 16141349

>>16141343
Taylor Swift fan?

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:45:27 UTC No. 16141356

>>16141126

It's almost as if something caused productivity to accelerate making it easier for a person to do technical jobs more quickly in the 80's.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:47:09 UTC No. 16141359

>>16141336

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:47:49 UTC No. 16141361

how many of you are actual boomers

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:50:10 UTC No. 16141364

>>16141336
http://www.astronautix.com/l/lf2hydrazine.html
>LF2/Hydrazine propellant. In the United States. In the 1960's the USAF sponsored development of engines by Bell and Rocketdyne using this propellant combination to power high-performance upper stages to replace the Agena and Transtage on the Atlas and Titan launch vehicles. However although test engines were built, fluorine was found to be just too toxic and reactive to be safely used as a propellant.
>Specific impulse: 422 s. Specific impulse sea level: 363 s.
Normally I'd expect a propulsion system with this much black magic in it to have better specific impulse, but it looks like the designs they were looking at were pressure-fed. I wouldn't want to have to design turbopumps that'd need to deal with fluorine either.

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19750020041/downloads/19750020041.pdf
There's also a NASA study from 1974, so while the idea might have been pushed back from active promotion it didn't completely go away after the wild days of the 1960s.

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:50:54 UTC No. 16141367

>>16141234
>Tory's office is in ULA's generic office building in Centennial that you can see from the commuter train as it runs alongside I-25 going south
lol, lmao even

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:51:09 UTC No. 16141368

>>16141361
not that many I presume. ive heard redditores mischaracterise channers as all literal boomers, when you can be a younger man and still have a boomer worldview

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:54:45 UTC No. 16141370

>>16141359
>a critical shortage of raw material held that one up
kek

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:55:39 UTC No. 16141372

>>16141361
there's like two actual oldspace boomers here

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:55:47 UTC No. 16141373

>>16141244
yeah, starship is going to take a few years and be busy with HLS related things in the near term

Anonymous at Mon, 22 Apr 2024 23:58:08 UTC No. 16141376

>>16141356
Neither are attributable to the introduction of modern digital compute technology: the timelines don't match up.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 00:33:35 UTC No. 16141398

>>16140836

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 00:39:22 UTC No. 16141403

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 00:40:16 UTC No. 16141405

>>16141403

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 00:41:00 UTC No. 16141407

Woah guys a hydrazine fluorine rocket just flew over my ho-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 00:48:16 UTC No. 16141411

>>16140980
This jew is destroying my country

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 00:48:16 UTC No. 16141412

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 00:49:20 UTC No. 16141413

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 00:50:55 UTC No. 16141415

>>16141412
Is there any way this could be designed to throw away more engines?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 00:51:42 UTC No. 16141416

>>16141415
yeah

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 00:52:22 UTC No. 16141417

>>16141415
asparagus staging

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 00:52:29 UTC No. 16141418

>>16141411
Your country was a shithole before and it's a shithole now

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 00:52:40 UTC No. 16141419

>>16141364
>>16141327
lf2/ammonia > lf2/hydrazine http://www.astronautix.com/r/rd-301.html

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 00:53:20 UTC No. 16141420

kino

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 00:53:31 UTC No. 16141421

>>16141418
Yeah but now its even more shithole

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 00:55:57 UTC No. 16141424

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1782565733580591402
neutron isn't re-

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 00:57:00 UTC No. 16141425

>>16141412
Mmmmmm, dooooooooonutsssssssss...

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 00:57:54 UTC No. 16141426

>>16141424
does that water tower even fly?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 01:09:44 UTC No. 16141443

>>16141424
starship is going to be operational before neutron

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 01:13:22 UTC No. 16141449

>>16141419
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%94-301
Decent specs, but it looks like RD-301 used a fuel rich staged combustion design. The closest the west ever came to putting together something like that was probably an expander cycle powered RL-10 that the Glenn Research Center modified to drink hydrogen-fluorine.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 01:24:03 UTC No. 16141456

>>16141443
Neutron first flight is 2024 so you wanna bet?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 01:24:33 UTC No. 16141457

>>16141424
>gay nigger rocket launching from high latitude
>not fully reusable
>will only be operational long after starship has been and swallowed up the entire market
why am i supposed to care again?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 01:28:11 UTC No. 16141463

>>16141424
-levant

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 01:35:23 UTC No. 16141467

>>16141456
that seems kind of optimistic
do they even have a working engine?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 01:37:29 UTC No. 16141468

>>16141457
you significantly underestimate how long starship will take to swallow the market. falcon launches 120 a year these days and electron still does business.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 01:41:04 UTC No. 16141470

>>16141468
I sucked a shit out my girlfriends ass when rimming and had instant regret when my mouth was full. is this how Martian colonists will feel?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 01:44:23 UTC No. 16141471

>>16141468
imagine a timeline where spacex's capital expenditures went into falcon 9 production and new pads instead of starbase.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 01:47:38 UTC No. 16141475

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 01:53:04 UTC No. 16141482

i dislike the shuttle.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 02:03:46 UTC No. 16141488

>>16141105
holy shit you have some insane /pol/brain

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 02:07:54 UTC No. 16141494

Lol

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 02:09:02 UTC No. 16141495

>>16141470
post pics of gf?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 02:10:19 UTC No. 16141498

>>16141336
>hydrazine fluorine
You are like a little baby.
Observe:

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 02:21:43 UTC No. 16141509

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 02:33:30 UTC No. 16141513

when will the next untethered EVA happen /sfg/?
sometime in the next ten years?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 02:33:59 UTC No. 16141514

new ASDS

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 02:34:32 UTC No. 16141517

>>16141513
Jared will drift away when the kino IVA suit goes haywire

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 02:43:01 UTC No. 16141522

>>16141424
Water towers at launch sites don't make rockets real. Blue Origin finished their giant water tower for LC-36 in, what, 2018?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 02:45:51 UTC No. 16141523

>>16141513
well artemis 3/4 won't have tethers for moonwalks so by the end of the decade at latest

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 02:50:33 UTC No. 16141527

>>16141517
i read this as jewed

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 03:27:04 UTC No. 16141548

chinese spaceplane spotted. it looks like it's likely unmanned.
https://www.twz.com/air/black-mystery-craft-spotted-slung-under-chinese-h-6-bomber

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 03:41:24 UTC No. 16141555

>>16141548
Looks like a fighter

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 04:44:36 UTC No. 16141617

>>16141513
why do untethered? clambering along the ISS by hand or using a Manned Maneuvering Unit works fine.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 05:06:07 UTC No. 16141636

>>16140838
averi is better

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 05:08:31 UTC No. 16141638

i keep getting starlink ads but i live in the city

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 05:30:29 UTC No. 16141659

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/nasas-voyager-1-resumes-sending-engineering-updates-to-earth

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 05:44:25 UTC No. 16141667

>>16141224
if it makes you feel better, nasa doesnt actually know much about the methane cycle on titan, so there's a chance dragonfly gets absolutely fucked in a torrential downpour, even at the equator

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:03:53 UTC No. 16141689

>>16140118
cant wait to go swimming there one day

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:10:16 UTC No. 16141700

Everybody :)
We should send a man to Titan.

I know you probably object to this idea. Let me say this: IT DOESNT MATTER what you think. My idea is good 100% outside what you say.

BONK

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:14:22 UTC No. 16141707

>>16141700
>no landing legs
holy fail

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:17:20 UTC No. 16141709

>>16141700
...who did you think would disagree with you? We need that methane for outer system travel, if anything we should be be trying to rush people there asap once Mars is set up

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:17:31 UTC No. 16141710

>>16141707
most likely it will be using little "feets" such as these to land upon

Thanks do you have any other objevtions?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:18:38 UTC No. 16141713

>>16141709
I just want to be prepared in case of a retard lurking here

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:19:16 UTC No. 16141714

>>16141710
but you didn't draw those little "feet" thingies though

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:19:48 UTC No. 16141716

>>16141714
They fold inside you daft kook

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:21:02 UTC No. 16141719

>>16141714
And I didn't draw it !! Arrrrrgggggghh

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:21:05 UTC No. 16141720

>>16141716
who's kook?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:22:40 UTC No. 16141722

>>16141720
YOU

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:25:08 UTC No. 16141726

>>16141498
>Fluorine Boiloff Vent

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:26:09 UTC No. 16141728

>>16141700
Man belongs wherever he wants to go and he'll do plenty well when he gets there -- including Titan.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:29:15 UTC No. 16141729

Has there ever been a better man than this? Pictured

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:32:08 UTC No. 16141732

>>16141729
>inb4 trump
Fuck off

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:33:28 UTC No. 16141733

>>16141729
Musk. Sneed and feed

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:34:06 UTC No. 16141734

>>16141732
?
>>16141733
Strong choice

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:36:47 UTC No. 16141735

has there ever been a man that had more eye on the prize than this?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:37:20 UTC No. 16141737

>>16141729
only this great, GREAT man

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:38:41 UTC No. 16141740

>>16141734
See >>16141737

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:39:17 UTC No. 16141742

>>16141740
I'm sorry that happened

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:39:22 UTC No. 16141743

Nothing to see here, just two titans of spaceflight discussing the future of interplanetary humanity

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:40:45 UTC No. 16141744

>>16141743
why was demeter fired? now he is a famous war hero

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 06:41:46 UTC No. 16141746

>>16141744
He was uncircumcised, fortunately measures were taken to correct this moral failing

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 07:00:07 UTC No. 16141760

>>16141746
American scum

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 07:02:55 UTC No. 16141762

>>16141760
learn manners, subhuman

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 07:04:27 UTC No. 16141763

>>16141746
So you are on the side of the jews?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 07:09:32 UTC No. 16141768

>>16141763
The joke went over your head like an American broomstick

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 07:16:55 UTC No. 16141774

>>16141336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX-0Xw6kkrc

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 07:20:23 UTC No. 16141777

We are the new Gods

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 07:58:37 UTC No. 16141794

>>16141555
could maybe be something like an x-38 although i doubt they'd have a use for one

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 08:08:10 UTC No. 16141800

Today's not our day Ausbros...

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 08:28:00 UTC No. 16141809

>>16141800
>30 day notification period
Remember amerimutt bros it doesn’t have to get better but it can always get worse

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 08:41:31 UTC No. 16141819

>>16141809
Is australia FAA worse than America FAA? :/

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 09:17:36 UTC No. 16141853

>>16141737
stupid nigger lol

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 09:19:49 UTC No. 16141855

Anyone from here going? It's like a thousand euros though...
https://www.iac2024.org/registration-accommodation/registration/

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 09:32:33 UTC No. 16141863

>>16141105
>The problem is
useful idiots like you and green pinkos giving a free pass to actual ghoulish pollution pits like CHYNA and pajeetia. Which, if the industrial wastelands aint enough, are actively trying to kill off the ocean ecology on top of that with absolute scorched earth style poacher fishing fleets.

While whining on the already gimped western world killing le planet that is shooting itself in the foot constantly with nonsense over regulation killing actually viable alternatives like nuclear

most cringe part is that the vast majority of you are not even actively recruited for this for something like monetary rewards. You just do it since you have no clue what is going on beyond the horizon. Literal Not In My BackYardism (NIMBY)

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 10:29:51 UTC No. 16141898

>>16141763
we're on the side of Zigger genocide lol

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 10:30:55 UTC No. 16141900

>>16141819
>Is Australia worse than the USA
in everything except for cool marsupials, yes
and potentially beer and long stretches of nothing

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 10:59:28 UTC No. 16141929

>>16141800

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 11:01:15 UTC No. 16141931

>>16141900
agreed, our burger marsupials are ugly

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 11:03:50 UTC No. 16141934

>>16141777
the dome is impenetrable even to this massive rocket.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 12:11:24 UTC No. 16141981

>>16141763
>he doesn't know

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 12:33:30 UTC No. 16141996

greenland could maybe become habitable with starship launches.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 12:37:18 UTC No. 16142000

Europa already is habitable we just need to get a little vial of earth fungi down there in the ocean.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 12:45:37 UTC No. 16142003

Europa already has lots of people on it, its presentlyt the theatre of a major war, sweaty...

🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 12:49:28 UTC No. 16142006

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 12:51:13 UTC No. 16142008

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 13:12:08 UTC No. 16142024

>>16141981
>>16141746
Was the birthday neutering ever confirmed? I remember hearing recently that it had been confirmed, but that might have been a dream.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 13:17:06 UTC No. 16142030

>>16141996
There's honestly more people there than I thought. How long till we have 10s of thousands of people on Mars?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 13:29:13 UTC No. 16142044

>>16142030
Greenland and Faroe islands are self sustaining (to extent any smol country is), not 100% reliant on external supplies like McMurdo station.

McMurdo station, Population: summer 1000, winter 153

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 13:31:45 UTC No. 16142050

>>16142044
>McMurdo station
What do they do there? What's the endgame for Antarctic bases?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 13:41:33 UTC No. 16142066

>>16142050
mainly astronomers, physicist, climate scientists and so on are there
i guess other ones too

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 13:44:02 UTC No. 16142071

>>16142050
research, but also to stake a claim on that nomans land

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 14:03:42 UTC No. 16142108

>>16141361
I'm in my 40's, which makes me a Boomer by meme standards. My parents were at the tail end of the Boomer generation.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 14:11:09 UTC No. 16142120

>>16141411
What is he doing wrong? He seems to be moving things in the right direction. I only hesitate to support him because Penrose is against Milei cutting government funding for science. Still, that seems reasonable given that their economy is in the gutter.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 14:18:15 UTC No. 16142127

>>16141411
Hopefully after he finishes you'll have a country where most jobs aren't government jobs, your pesos aren't toilet paper and you don't take a loan from the IMF every couple of years.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 14:35:28 UTC No. 16142141

>>16142127
When jewlei finishes there wont be any jobs

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 14:35:51 UTC No. 16142142

https://twitter.com/SpaceNosey/status/1782749954798186517

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 14:37:23 UTC No. 16142145

>>16142142
It's amazing how both of these manage to be truly awful in different ways.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 14:42:25 UTC No. 16142151

>>16142145
let's see your preferred space suit design.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 14:44:24 UTC No. 16142153

>>16142151
not him, but counter pressure suit

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 14:53:09 UTC No. 16142156

>>16142153
Have you solved maintaining pressure to the genitals and anus?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 14:54:41 UTC No. 16142157

>>16141361
I'm a 33yo boomer

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 14:57:00 UTC No. 16142161

...only a beginning!
50+ years and counting

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 14:59:52 UTC No. 16142163

>>16142156
leaking valves are nothing new in space flight

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 15:17:08 UTC No. 16142177

>>16142151

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 15:32:11 UTC No. 16142199

>>16142177

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 15:38:13 UTC No. 16142205

>>16141777
>we

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 15:48:41 UTC No. 16142215

Why don't we get visits from flat earthers anymore?
Are we that unpopular? What went wrong?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 15:52:53 UTC No. 16142225

>>16142215
those posters have been reallocated to more urgent tasks since october

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 15:55:59 UTC No. 16142227

>>16142145
lmao this

>>16142151
only the GOAT

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 16:11:22 UTC No. 16142243

>>16142151

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 16:11:49 UTC No. 16142247

>>16142225
>its da jooz
shut up

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 16:17:22 UTC No. 16142251

>>16142247
It actually is.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 16:23:44 UTC No. 16142259

>>16142044
>Greenland and Faroe islands are self sustaining
where do they make their steel and computer chips?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 16:33:15 UTC No. 16142265

>>16142024
He threw a tantrum on Twitter when an anon asked him about it so probably.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 16:36:36 UTC No. 16142271

>>16142259
Anon, how do you think people were self sustaining before either of those things were invented?
Also, I recognize this from the mars colony debate. Why are you so obsessed with computer chips?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 16:40:57 UTC No. 16142276

>>16142271
>Anon, how do you think people were self sustaining before either of those things were invented?
They didn't go places those were required for survival.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 16:42:16 UTC No. 16142277

>>16142259
yes anon. no modern society can exist that is truly independent from global geopolitics. when "self sustaining" mars colonies happen, they will not be truly independent from solar systempolitics.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 16:49:50 UTC No. 16142285

>>16142271
>Why are you so obsessed with computer chips?
nta. But I make a good point. I guess they will have to import intel chips from Earth then. Imagine the shipping costs.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 16:54:55 UTC No. 16142291

>>16142276
>>16142285
You can survive, even farm in greenland without steel and computer chips.
As for mars, If they can use locally produced alternatives, they will. They'll likely do that even if those locally produced alternatives are much less efficient; because as you say, anything produced on earth will be prohibitively expensive unless it's given freely. You don't need modern computer chips for a self sustaining mars base.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 16:59:20 UTC No. 16142301

How can I convince (you) that underground habitats are the way to go?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:04:34 UTC No. 16142304

https://x.com/arianegroup/status/1782816795948150876
Fucking retarded frogniggers dont even know their own audience.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:06:42 UTC No. 16142309

>>16142301
Pay me

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:08:41 UTC No. 16142311

>>16141996
Why doesnt the USA send colonists to Greenland?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:09:28 UTC No. 16142312

New Zealand could maybe become habitable with starship launches.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:13:37 UTC No. 16142322

>>16142304
>mfw KSP gives me a contract with argument of periapsis specified

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:19:38 UTC No. 16142333

>>16142301
Can I have a huge glass window on a cliff face like in Minecraft? That's pretty comfy.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:22:17 UTC No. 16142336

>>16142333

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:25:50 UTC No. 16142338

>>16142301
You don't need to.
I prefer the term 'geofront'.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:27:57 UTC No. 16142341

>>16142338
based

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:32:48 UTC No. 16142351

>>16142338
One day, brother

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:38:21 UTC No. 16142359

Boullée on Mars when?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:41:15 UTC No. 16142364

>>16142359
>Mars Great Hall

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:44:14 UTC No. 16142367

>>16142364
imagine the self supporting domes you could build in 38% gravity

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:45:25 UTC No. 16142370

>>16142364
Reminder that lunar gravity will allow buildings even more impressive

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:51:03 UTC No. 16142373

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 17:56:59 UTC No. 16142382

>>16142156
lunar buttplug obviously.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:02:33 UTC No. 16142388

>>16142373
i'm not sure if those exact numbers are accurate, but yeah capillary action would be a lot more effective at moving water up plants.
imagine a redwood growing on mars with 1bar atmosphere.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:02:38 UTC No. 16142389

Nelson bros they're laughing at us! China's laughing at us!

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:08:39 UTC No. 16142399

>>16142215
I have seen no irrefutable evidence that flat earthers exist. When someone tells me they believe the earth is flat, I deny they believe it. I can't see their beliefs. As a skeptic that's not the sort of thing I believe in.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:09:42 UTC No. 16142402

>>16142301
why go to space when we have so many delicious roggs here on earth?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:10:28 UTC No. 16142404

>>16142399
This is compelling

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:10:58 UTC No. 16142406

>>16142364
why do they have a fucking altar? they'd better be worshiping Elon

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:12:59 UTC No. 16142407

>>16141361
>implying early zoomers aren't autistic about space

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:17:15 UTC No. 16142411

>>16142406
Chill there's a version without it

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:20:25 UTC No. 16142416

>uoogh aargh I'm gonna flAAAAAAAREEEEEEEEE
WTF is their problem?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:23:54 UTC No. 16142418

>>16142416
red dwarves are the niggers of stars
orange dwarves are pajeet/beaner tier
yellow dwarves are Aryan

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:25:07 UTC No. 16142419

>>16142416
they want to strip their planets of their atmospheres.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:25:44 UTC No. 16142421

>>16142419
Perverts.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:27:15 UTC No. 16142422

>>16142419
It's about time somebody removed that thing.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:27:24 UTC No. 16142423

>>16142416
It's pooping :)

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:28:03 UTC No. 16142425

>>16142419
gibs me dat aamosfeer
t. nigstar

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:28:39 UTC No. 16142426

>>16142271
because to be truly fully sustainable, computer chips are critical
life on mars without computer chips will not be possible
and lets say all computers just stopped existing on earth and we would not be able to build more, you would probably lose something like 95% of the population due to starvation

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:31:51 UTC No. 16142428

>>16142426
I hope this is bait.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:32:29 UTC No. 16142429

>>16142426
>95%
I doubt that. there were ~2.3 billion people in 1940 before the first computers were invented. we could probably sustain more than that on machines that exist now and do not require computers to continue operation, although we would struggle to build more of them

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:35:52 UTC No. 16142434

computers are nonessential in today's world. Just look at what they were able to build without any computers.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:39:07 UTC No. 16142439

new bread?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:39:20 UTC No. 16142441

>>16142434
we should convert those useless triangles into data centers

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:40:19 UTC No. 16142443

>>16142423
>It's pooping :)
SILENCE

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:41:07 UTC No. 16142444

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:41:20 UTC No. 16142445

>>16142418
what about F- & A- dwarves

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:42:16 UTC No. 16142446

>>16142441
The Sahara dessert offers bad cooling performance

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:47:00 UTC No. 16142450

>>16142434
>wow some niggers stacked rocks in a pile just like my marvel movie!
why are pyramidchuds so overrated?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:47:28 UTC No. 16142452

>>16142416
Any update on that theory about M-Dwarf stars actually flaring out of their poles rather than equators? Has that been proven or disproven yet?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:49:35 UTC No. 16142453

>>16142446
Then it is time to terraform the Sahara. We need the practice anyway.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:51:42 UTC No. 16142457

>>16142452
why don't we just park a telescope observing Proxima Centauri 24/7 to find out?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:52:41 UTC No. 16142460

>>16142452
Some eggheads a while back managed to "determine" that on fully convective stars (so not all red dwarf stars, only those with 0.25 solar masses) the flares originate at latitudes above 55-81 degrees.

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2108.01917.pdf

I don't think any further studies have been published since though.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:53:14 UTC No. 16142462

>>16142445
Don't really live long enough to give life a chance so they're out of contention. I consider late F dwarves to be also Aryan. Mismatched binaries and so forth can be considered miscegenation

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:53:56 UTC No. 16142464

>>16142453
I suggest filling those depressions in the Sahara with water. The evaporation will cause rain.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 18:57:58 UTC No. 16142466

>>16142464
This in conjunction with arab cloud-seeders to darken the skies might go far in dampening the sand. Creating some inland seas should lower the overall temperature by a few degrees and foster green growth in time. If we can't reclaim desert areas of our own planet then we're gonna have a hard time foresting Mars.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:16:25 UTC No. 16142490

>>16142462
>Don't really live long enough to give life a chance so they're out of contention
Sintists seem to think they still have a shot even if it's on a knife edge compared to the G dwarf stars
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitability_of_F-type_main-sequence_star_systems
At the same time they'd probably be the most similar to our sun out of any other star when positioned properly despite emotting more UV radiation, skies would also look more similar than K dwarf stars I think
I also hear those K dwarf stars tend to emit a shitton of x rays for some reason so like fuck

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:24:33 UTC No. 16142496

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:26:47 UTC No. 16142499

>>16142490
K dwarves emit Xrays because of the alien civilizations around them (they communicate using Xrays because it's superior to low energy transmission especially over long distances). Simple as.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:27:48 UTC No. 16142502

If things go to plan, a RocketLab Electron and SpaceX Falcon 9 will launch within minutes of each other in a few hours.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:28:33 UTC No. 16142503

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1782851726527328758

Musk agreeing with a post about an inevitable war (perhaps civil war)

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:29:04 UTC No. 16142504

>>16142503
not spaceflight kill yourself

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:30:35 UTC No. 16142507

>>16142407
i... am an early zoomer myself and plan to go to mars. how was my post implying that?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:30:39 UTC No. 16142508

>>16142504
a self sufficient mars colony needs to happen ASAP

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:31:49 UTC No. 16142511

>>16142504
He's obviously talking about the impeding Cybertronian civil war in the constellation of Scorpius.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:36:03 UTC No. 16142516

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:36:37 UTC No. 16142517

>>16142499
sounds about as probable as all the xraying (dirty cheaters) k-dwarf stars somehow being thorne-żyktów objects

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:38:50 UTC No. 16142521

>>16142429
Everything is computer based now, we don't have the hardware and systems to run things like they were run in 1940
the population would rise again, but I think during the scramble there would be massive starvation

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:42:38 UTC No. 16142529

>>16142516
>10kg payload
All that effort for a payload that can't do anything.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:45:54 UTC No. 16142532

>>16142529
picosats are the future chud

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 19:47:16 UTC No. 16142534

>>16142502
It would be cool if they crashed into each other.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:00:34 UTC No. 16142552

>>16142517
just you wait and see.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:03:51 UTC No. 16142556

>>16142534
No that wouldnt be "cool"

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:05:02 UTC No. 16142561

>>16142532
the fuck are picosats, even smaller than cubesats now??

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:10:39 UTC No. 16142572

>>16142561
A deck of cards, opens and dispenses paper-thin nanosats for micro-swarms.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:18:35 UTC No. 16142581

What exactly is wrong with orion's heat shield, and why is it taking so long to fix?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:18:40 UTC No. 16142582

>>16142532
i really really like this image!

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:19:57 UTC No. 16142584

>>16142581
nothing and because nothing is wrong with it

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:20:05 UTC No. 16142586

>>16142581
5% off expected extensive extremely expensive 3D CFD modeling simulation behavior on NASA supercomputers requires 1 year delay and lots of engineering analysis to better align with our holy models pls understand

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:22:11 UTC No. 16142587

>>16142581
Go fever led to dangerous installation of heat shield...

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:22:35 UTC No. 16142590

>>16142367
None above ground. The pressure differential would yeet them into the sky.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:26:11 UTC No. 16142595

>>16142581

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:31:34 UTC No. 16142604

>>16142590
just don't pressurize them ezpz

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:40:46 UTC No. 16142614

>>16142590
Could that be exploited to lift payloads?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:42:01 UTC No. 16142616

>>16142614
not with less effort than just tanking up more methalox

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:42:45 UTC No. 16142617

“Now is not the time for decreasing or flat space budgets,” said retired Gen. John Raymond, the former head of the Space Force. “China is not slowing down.”

lets goo

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:45:24 UTC No. 16142619

Clapback: Rep. Carlos Gimenez (R-FL) sharply questioned the witnesses at the China select committee roundtable on why it’s taking so long to get back to the Moon when Apollo happened more than five decades ago.

“What the heck is going on and why aren’t we there already?” he said. “Why is it that these systems are taking so long to develop when we were there 50 years ago?”

Former NASA chief Jim Bridenstine’s TLDR answer: take a look in the mirror.

“We have had programs started and stopped with the whimsical budgets of politicians,” he said. “It is starts and stops and wasted billions of dollars and lots of time.”

BASED JIM calling them the fuck out

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:45:51 UTC No. 16142620

>>16142503
this is the way to martian independence

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:46:23 UTC No. 16142623

>>16142619
btfo

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 20:56:50 UTC No. 16142633

>>16142619
The Trump administration had amazing appointments and leaders in spaceflight. now it's all women and niggers, pardon me

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:03:06 UTC No. 16142646

>>16142532
>la cretura triangulo

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:08:01 UTC No. 16142654

>>16142534
that would be a neat trick, there is a little obstacle in the way (the entire planet Earth)

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:09:27 UTC No. 16142657

>>16142654
It would be nice if it landed on a certain Federal building

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:15:27 UTC No. 16142663

>>16142416
With the news of red dwarf stars most probably being uninhabitable, I do find it morbidly amusing how the Copernican principle keeps getting BTFO'd time and time again. To the point where we've gone full circle in thinking the Solar System, our parent star, and our homeworld being normalfag tier, nothing special, to realizing we are most probably the freaks, the outlier, a unicron among the stars.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:17:29 UTC No. 16142668

>>16142663
Single G series stars are still common as fuck.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:19:02 UTC No. 16142670

>2 launches 2 minutes apart

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:21:49 UTC No. 16142673

>>16142670
what are the chances they hit each other

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:22:08 UTC No. 16142674

>>16142668
Yes. System configurations like ours, where the gas giants all migrated outwards and the smaller planets remained inside are similarly uncommon. Now down-select stars that ended up having a giant moon forming collision like ours and were seeded with sufficient quantities of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen, and had the right conditions to avoid having its atmosphere stripped away by some cosmic event or another, and then actually have life form on it, and things start looking outrageously unlikely. We're here, so obviously the existence of life is possible, but our inability to find evidence of it anywhere else speaks to the combination of factors that resulted in Life On Earth As We Know It being outrageously unlikely.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:22:52 UTC No. 16142675

>>16142673
50/50

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:23:47 UTC No. 16142677

>>16142675
if that's true i think they need to call off the launch?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:27:07 UTC No. 16142679

>>16142674
>System configurations like ours, where the gas giants all migrated outwards and the smaller planets remained inside are similarly uncommon
Yeah, those star systems we find with multiple Jupiter mass worlds huddled up within 1 AU of the primary freak me out. It wasn't supposed to be like this!

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:27:56 UTC No. 16142680

>>16142674
We cant say that without a sufficient exoplanet atmosphere survey. At this time we cant even resolve Earth size planets around sunlike stars

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:31:28 UTC No. 16142682

>>16142680
You don't actually need to resolve a planet to get an absorption spectrum with transit spectroscopy, but better instruments do make it a lot easier to see a planet's atmospheric blockage without being overwhelmed by the luminosity of the host star. Yeah, more data is needed, but the initial data isn't promising.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:34:52 UTC No. 16142686

>>16142674
>ended up having a giant moon forming collision like ours
I guess an exomoon won't have wonky obliquity but the environment around a gas giant in a stellar HZ doesn't seem too good either

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:43:22 UTC No. 16142701

>>16142633
the of colour and women started with Artemis. did trump do anything to fix that?
I swear to god you don't know fucking anything about spaceflight. you don't even know what we liked about trumps tenure in terms of spaceflight

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:49:08 UTC No. 16142710

>>16142701
You're getting emotional

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:51:00 UTC No. 16142711

I dobt beleive that a rendevouz of orion and starship will ever happen, it will look too goofy.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:51:50 UTC No. 16142712

>>16142711
goofy ahhh :skull:

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:52:43 UTC No. 16142714

>>16142711
That's why it will be Dragon and Starship

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:53:01 UTC No. 16142716

>>16142711
they can rendezvous and just not take any pictures of it to protect all parties involved from embarrassment

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:55:03 UTC No. 16142717

>>16142633
>>16142701
would it be better for the first artemis landing to have a black man and a white woman or have a black woman? the latter only wastes one seat on the token passenger, but with the former there's a legitimate chance that both are really qualified to be there

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:57:34 UTC No. 16142720

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9izutzETw1U
T-18 minutes for Rocket Lab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQP5Jv-D3Ww
T-20 minutes for SpaceX

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:58:27 UTC No. 16142721

>>16142670
Rocket Lab live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9izutzETw1U

will they break the solar sail curse?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:59:13 UTC No. 16142722

>>16142663
>>16142674
>can't have an M-type due to constant flares/tidal locking/small HCZ or just insufficient visible light for photosynthesis
>K-type looking unlikely due to intense X-Ray/UV radiation early in life
>F-type similar but likely too short lived
>ditto for A9/B8V type (which are also hot)
>B/O-types exist to eat shit (and look pretty doing so)
>star has to be in the galactic HCZ away from core regions and active supernovae and star forming regions
>need a quiet FGK solar analog
>sufficiently high metallicity, formed in a cloud with enough poison
>gas cloud needs heavy radioactive elements
>also need high amount of phosphorus for organics
>likely need enough material to form gas giants to shepherd debris but also deliver them to the inner planets via impacts
>the planets themselves need a strong magnetosphere, thick atmosphere at minimum
>need enough mass, radioactivity, and subsurface bridgmanite to generate and convect internal heat
>active plate tectonics and volcanism courtesy of tidal forces from a non-locked star and a large moon(s)
>said moon likely created through a giant grazing planetary collision
>atmospheric pressure and composition has to be sufficient to not cause exceed acidity, crushing, or a runaway greenhouse hell
>need a solvent for life such as water or ammonia, for technological civilizations to arise you also need to be able to set things on fire which requires an oxygen atmosphere to do efficiently
You can't have this many (and at least a dozen more things I'm probably forgetting on the top of my head) criteria or things going against habitability and abiogenesis and not realize the Copernican principle is more likely than not (unless somehow proven otherwise) a bunch of pretentious conundrums of philosophy.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:01:33 UTC No. 16142725

>>16142722
Modern philosophers have a craven lust for mediocrity.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:01:33 UTC No. 16142726

>>16142722
yeah

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:04:48 UTC No. 16142732

ScrubLab

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:04:56 UTC No. 16142733

>>16142721
>HOLD
maybe not

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:06:26 UTC No. 16142739

>>16142722
You also need a few specific rock types in the mantle (I forgot their name) or else no life

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:06:45 UTC No. 16142740

we've entered into the planned scrub phase of the mission. everything is proceeding nominally.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:07:13 UTC No. 16142742

>>16142739
oh great, another paper geologist here to tell us why muh lignite is the key to life please give my research feild more money

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:07:37 UTC No. 16142743

>>16142742
kek

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:10:42 UTC No. 16142750

Its time for your weekly quote of Starlink launch watching

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:11:33 UTC No. 16142752

Will ScrubX match ScrubLab?!

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:11:36 UTC No. 16142754

>>16142722
Does our sun actually have more in common with F-dwarfs than K-dwarfs? Sol is already among the hottest and luminous stars within its class. An F7-F9 would still probably look more similar in our sky than the K dwarf even with the large jump in UV radiation.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:13:55 UTC No. 16142756

>>16142722
>K-type
>have to do a early life check
As above, so below

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:17:26 UTC No. 16142760

The universe if all stars above 0.35 solar masses were still fully convective (they could use all their hydrogen fuel).

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:17:46 UTC No. 16142762

okay RocketLab you're up

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:18:13 UTC No. 16142763

>>16142411
why aren't they worshiping Elon?!

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:18:55 UTC No. 16142765

>>16142763
he told them no god or kings only Man

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:18:56 UTC No. 16142766

>>16141405
littering, and?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:21:31 UTC No. 16142771

>>16142762
count resumed!

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:22:09 UTC No. 16142772

>>16142771
too late

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:24:02 UTC No. 16142774

>>16142722
You forgot that carbon is also still the most probable and suitable element for biomechanics. Silicon as cool as it is does not allow for as many reactions and is thus likely a meme. This is even before you get to the dozens of great filters like life self destructing (as it almost did during the snowball period) or through stuff like gravity being too high. Either way, carbon is also necessary.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:24:19 UTC No. 16142777

One shaky Falcon 9 S2

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:26:24 UTC No. 16142781

300 landings

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:26:49 UTC No. 16142783

>>16142781
CGI

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:27:36 UTC No. 16142785

>>16142720
300th Falcon 9 first stage landing: a perfect bullseye!

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:28:31 UTC No. 16142788

>>16141659

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:29:19 UTC No. 16142790

>>16142674
>System configurations like ours, where the gas giants all migrated outwards and the smaller planets remained inside are similarly uncommon.
That's not at all clear at all. The current statistics are horribly biased towards short periods transting planets. Those surveys are very pretty much blind to long period planets like Jupiter. Most of the rich systems are either all low mass or all high mass, because of selection effects of different techniques. Today there are basically zero systems where there is a good measurement of both.

>our inability to find evidence of it anywhere else
What bullshit. If the a planet like the Earth was orbiting every other star in the galaxy with we could not measure a single biosignature today. Zero.
Our inability to find life is certainly limited by current technology.

>>16142682
Current transit spectroscopy can say almost nothing about terrestrial planets around G stars. 95% of the current effort is on M stars, or massive planets.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:30:26 UTC No. 16142791

>>16142721
Rocket Lab launches are quite pastoral, with the rolling fields of grass and all the bird tweeting in the background

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:31:22 UTC No. 16142793

>>16142791
yeah hopefully they figure out how to crank up the gravitas with neutron

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:32:19 UTC No. 16142794

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:32:47 UTC No. 16142795

>>16142722
copernican principle is a nonsense dogma. it more than anything is a knee jerk contrarian position taken against the geocentric religious model of the unvierse. In copernicuses time he didnt know any better, now we know its clearly false so people who still parrot it are nuts.
Maybe there are a small number of other planets in our galaxy which meet every criteria for civilization, but never develop one due to that too being exceedingly rare. Hundreds of great filters along the biological path, its wild to think about. Even if our planet ticked every single box and jumped every hurdle and humans reached domiance, if europe never evloded white people then we would not have achieved spaceflight. I firmly beleive that we dont see evidence of aliens because we are the first, perhaps alone in a great span of galaxies. It makes our mission to conquor all the more important.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:32:49 UTC No. 16142796

>>16142793
it will be launching from Wallops instead of Mahia so it'll be more dignified by default

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:33:20 UTC No. 16142798

>>16142793
are u saying theres a shortfall of gravitas

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:34:16 UTC No. 16142799

This is not good

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:36:21 UTC No. 16142801

uhhh.... guys...

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:37:41 UTC No. 16142803

What's that orange flame coming out the side for?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:38:48 UTC No. 16142806

>>16142799
>>16142801
>>16142803
it can still ride the sail to orbit, right?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:39:28 UTC No. 16142807

something just fell off!

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:39:39 UTC No. 16142809

>dumps batteries into the sea
Not my problem m8

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:40:01 UTC No. 16142810

>>16142807
The depleted battery packs for the Rutherford engine on S2.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:40:08 UTC No. 16142812

>>16142790
>The current statistics are horribly biased towards short periods transting planets. Those surveys are very pretty much blind to long period planets like Jupiter.
2008 wants its copes back. 'muh selection effects' won't cut it, these stellar systems really are fucked up and very common

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:40:28 UTC No. 16142813

>>16142810
it's over omfg

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:42:25 UTC No. 16142816

SIGNAL LOST

it's over

STOCK DROPPING!!11

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:44:39 UTC No. 16142820

>>16142809
doing their best to be environmentally conscious by recharging the electric eels

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:45:30 UTC No. 16142822

>>16142820
+3 ESG score to RocketLab

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:45:42 UTC No. 16142823

>>16142673
>what are the chances they hit each other
>Florida
>New Zealand
oh they're going to be on a collision course for sure, better take cover

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:48:10 UTC No. 16142826

>>16142722
You can make anything seem unlikely by listing out every single conditon. And many of them are redudant, It is just silly to write the requirement for a sample size of one.
You also totally fail to account for the anthropic principle.

>the Copernican principle is more likely than not (unless somehow proven otherwise) a bunch of pretentious conundrums of philosophy.
I don't think you understand the principle. It does not mean where we live must be like everywhere in the universe. Clearly that is wrong since we live on a planet, most of the universe is nearly empty. It has nothing to do with exoplanets or life.
The point is that our position should not be special when observing the universe on large scales. For example of you said that the whole universe was a sphere centered on the Earth. If we lived in any other galaxy we would see something fundamentally different. But our perspective is essentially random, there is no reason it should be privileged. It's really only a thing in cosmology, talking about it and abiogenesis is just gibberish.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:51:25 UTC No. 16142829

>>16142812
Which systems are well enough measured to see both jovian (periods beyond 5 years) and terrestrial planets? List 5. No M stars.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:55:40 UTC No. 16142837

>>16142826
>You also totally fail to account for the anthropic principle.
There's more than one tenet to the Anthropic Principal; obviously, the universe must be conducive to life in some manner because it contains us, but the potentially erroneous aspect is the ironclad belief that the mediocrity principal also applies.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:58:27 UTC No. 16142842

>>16142823
isnt it more likely to hit in space because orbits cross? obv not at launch doofus

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:59:14 UTC No. 16142844

>>16142829
> Any minute now we're going to a glut of find star systems resembling ours! Two more weeks!

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 23:04:09 UTC No. 16142846

>>16142844
More like decades. Depending on how QI works out it may be easier to send actual probes to nearby stars than to try and resolve their terrestrial planets from here.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 23:05:22 UTC No. 16142848

>>16142795
>In copernicuses time he didnt know any better, now we know its clearly false so people who still parrot it are nuts
Wasn't it Carl Sagan who popularized it?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 23:11:42 UTC No. 16142852

>>16142844
Kepler 90. And look. Giant planets on the outside. Little planets packed into the center.

>>16142846
>Depending on how QI works
It doesn't.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 23:14:23 UTC No. 16142854

>>16142795
>If European people never evolved then we would not have achieved spaceflight.
I wish more people on this planet realized the importance of this fact. Because it seems the idea of mediocrity is also being applied to civilizations when they clearly are not equal; only one was ever capable of gazing towards the stars and setting foot on the heavens organically on their own. Anything else afterwards is merely a derivative imitation, courtesy of one being goaded into uplifting those less developed. Consequently, if the bandits running the planet succeed in their petty revenge and eliminate the Europeans this planet will likely never have the brains nor soul to become a proper space faring civilization before self-destructing in some way.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 23:14:40 UTC No. 16142855

>>16142852
>Uranus sized planets are now counted as earthlike
keplertrannies.... we went too far.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 23:15:13 UTC No. 16142856

>>16142852
wow! look at all those mini neptunes. bet they're hot too

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 23:15:52 UTC No. 16142857

>>16142826
>I don't think you understand the principle. It does not mean where we live must be like everywhere in the universe.
We supposedly don't occupy a special position in the universe and yet we seem to have overwhelming evidence to the contrary ever since we looked towards the stars with what instruments we have at our disposal.
>>16142837
Also this.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 23:18:30 UTC No. 16142859

>>16142852
>Kepler-90, also designated 2MASS J18574403+4918185, is a F-type star located about 2,790 light-years (855 pc) from Earth in the constellation of Draco.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCpEVIgDwZE

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 23:21:11 UTC No. 16142861

trump OP threads are always the WOOOOOOOOORST. not even because orange man bad but because the trump shill is just so. fucking. annoying. withe his blatant shilling

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 23:21:46 UTC No. 16142862

>>16142852
LOOK AT ALL THOSE CHICKENS
>>16142855
The bigger the star, the bigger the planets; more material in that protoplanetary disc is available. Imagine how large the F-type systems might be. Impressive that it could produce so many planets. These star systems among large stars a step above our sun may very well be the exotic among the exotic.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 23:22:35 UTC No. 16142864

>>16142862
what does that say about Alpha Centauri then, big enough for 2 big stars...

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 23:24:18 UTC No. 16142865

oh shit a solar sail experiment

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Apr 2024 23:24:40 UTC No. 16142866

>>16142852
>Kepler 90.
The issue is not whether *any* stellar systems resemble ours - in a large enough sample you are bound to find some - but what is their relative frequency compared to the 'degenerate' ones with loads of gas giants and super Neptunes all crammed around their primary. At some point you have to bite the bullet and admit systems like ours are rare.