Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 23:57:21 UTC No. 16147653

FIRST FOR BBC

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 23:58:09 UTC No. 16147656

>>16147648
starship OF-1 and OF-2

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 23:58:25 UTC No. 16147657

I fucked up the OP a little bit sorry guys

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 23:58:26 UTC No. 16147658

G-guys did dreamchaser launched?

Anonymous at Fri, 26 Apr 2024 23:59:32 UTC No. 16147660

How do any of you think we have the 30-40 years of status quo left to get something off this shithole to be self sustaining, just look at this ffs.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:00:29 UTC No. 16147661

>>16145877
this dude is a genius

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:02:10 UTC No. 16147666

>>16147660
money is super-neutral in the long run and growing the supply at a more-or-less constant annual rate is one of the least threatening things facing spaceflight

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:03:05 UTC No. 16147669

>you don't live in the superior flying saucer universe

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:04:18 UTC No. 16147670

>>16147666
>currency becoming worthless, rampant inflation wiping out everyone's holdings and debt becoming unpayable is one of the least threatening things to spaceflight

Ok lil dude

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:04:30 UTC No. 16147671

>>16147660
We’ll make it; you need to be optimistic. We’re closer than we have ever been. Imagine if the only ‘big’ rocket we had was SLS—they would be saying “Mars 2060” and even THAT would feel impossible. Starship will probably shave 20-25 years off of that for first boots, and will accelerate a semi-permanent presence on mars and almost certainly a permanent presence around and on the Moon.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:05:02 UTC No. 16147672

Is there a good resource for people that want to understand orbital mechanics better? I play ksp and can do just about anything in that game but I'm interested in having a higher understanding

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:06:29 UTC No. 16147674

>>16147672
Theres classes in college dedicated to this you know.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:08:23 UTC No. 16147677

I'd like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Starship, is in fact, Superheavy/Starship, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Superheavy plus Starship. Starships is not an LEO truck unto itself, but rather another component of a fully functioning launch system made useful by the Superheavy raptor engines, reusability, and vital fuel system components comprising a full Stack as defined by Von Braun.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:08:41 UTC No. 16147679

>>16147658
No. It's going up on a Vulcan.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:09:00 UTC No. 16147680

>>16147679
So its never going up

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:09:08 UTC No. 16147681

>>16147672
https://openlearninglibrary.mit.edu/courses/course-v1:MITx+16.00x+2T2019/courseware/89afcc2356ec40b08ad327c3bf8c1523/6bd11f8f5cab476d8a1c6ab1ca20105c/?activate_block_id=block-v1%3AMITx%2B16.00x%2B2T2019%2Btype%40sequential%2Bblock%406bd11f8f5cab476d8a1c6ab1ca20105c

https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/16-346-astrodynamics-fall-2008/

2s of googling

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:10:06 UTC No. 16147683

>>16147680
Vulcan is flying now. Credit to ULA, they nailed their first launch.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:10:19 UTC No. 16147684

>>16147648
ZERO POSTS IN AND THREAD RUINED. THANKS FAGGOT OP

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:12:23 UTC No. 16147689

>>16147683
God. BE4 is so much better than raptor.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:14:54 UTC No. 16147691

>>16147684
Im sorry for the dishonor Ive caused, I will sepuku shortly

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:15:06 UTC No. 16147692

>>16147670
>t. economcially illiterate
the problem is wealth inequality, deflation of the value of money over time is not a problem at all. If we switched to trading bars of gold, all the present economic problems would still exist or get worse.
>>16147660
>not sing the log chart
NGMI

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:17:20 UTC No. 16147693

>>16147670
inflation isn't rampant, everyone's holdings aren't getting wiped out, and the USD isn't going to become worthless in the foreseeable future. a booming economy isn't a necessary prerequisite for a booming spaceflight industry, and our economy could be in much worse shape than it's currently in and you'd continue to see substantial progress made just because of the military necessity.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:19:04 UTC No. 16147695

Second attempt Soon

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:21:07 UTC No. 16147698

>>16147692
>the problem is wealth inequality, deflation of the value of money over time is not a problem at all. If we switched to trading bars of gold, all the present economic problems would still exist or get worse

Words can't express how stupid you are, cant even use deflation/inflation correctly. Debt to GDP is over 100%, no country survives this.

>>16147693
>inflation isn't rampant

Lol nigger WHAT. Have you seen the price of, i dont know, anything, over the last 10 years??? Don't look at shadowstats to see real inflation and not the propaganda figure if you want to stay in your comfy little delusion bubble. They can't raise rates anymore without crashing the entire financial apparatus into oblivion and they can't revert without inflation shitting even harder. This is the beginning of the end of the fiat death spiral.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:25:32 UTC No. 16147705

>>16147677
do not capitalize the 'v' in "von" you fucking dirty nigger

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:28:47 UTC No. 16147707

>>16147698
>cant even use deflation/inflation correctly
NPC.
What you are complaining about is deflation of the value of money. Maybe you have never realized that inflation of the price of goods and services is connected to deflation of the value of money?
BTW in case you didn't know, interest rates are actually NEGATIVE, because the value of money deflates faster than the interest rate. That's why all large companies take on debt, because it's financially insane not to. The government is the same, it issues bonds because the it's basically free money. Until the day when actual interest rates become positive, the government can do it forever. What are people gonna do? Not buy bonds? The day the government becomes insolvent it will be because of a planned exit scam or because there are much bigger problems than too much debt

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:28:47 UTC No. 16147708

>>16147683
WHAT ARE THEY WAITING FOR I NEED DREAMCHASER

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:30:06 UTC No. 16147710

>>16147693
>inflation isn't rampant
That is a blatant lie and you are aware that you are telling a lie when you post it.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:31:36 UTC No. 16147711

So... SpaceX is building a flame trench... Can I get my apology from all retards who claimed they didnt need one?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:32:41 UTC No. 16147714

>>16147683
SLS nailed it's first launch too. There are some small benefits to enduring an extremely prolonged development cycle

>>16147708
They're waiting for Dreamchaser to finish it's pre-launch testing campaign. It should be ready at some point in Q4

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:33:46 UTC No. 16147715

>>16147710
Things are more expensive than they were a few years ago, yes, but they aren't noticeably more expensive than the were last year or last month, or last week.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:34:43 UTC No. 16147716

>>16147715
Youre fucking satanic.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:36:01 UTC No. 16147718

2 months until OFT4
2 years until Artemis 2

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:36:34 UTC No. 16147719

>>16147661
I'm doing my part!

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:36:45 UTC No. 16147720

>>16147711
Theyre building it at Masseys for testing, not for flights. Your lack of IQ is not grounds for me to retract my statement.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:38:32 UTC No. 16147723

>>16147719
>we're
were

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:39:00 UTC No. 16147725

>>16147723
Go back to discord tranny

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:39:42 UTC No. 16147727

>>16147720
So surreal watching the cope and denial until te moment they are taking off with a massive concrete flame deflector. It's te same as when you noobs were shilling transpiration cooling.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:42:21 UTC No. 16147731

>>16147715
Fuck off, ass

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:42:34 UTC No. 16147732

>>16147725
baka

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:43:06 UTC No. 16147733

>>16147725
ESL

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:44:45 UTC No. 16147736

>>16147727
What are they taking off? Their panties?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:45:17 UTC No. 16147738

>>16147725
Learn english

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:47:36 UTC No. 16147741

>>16147714
>at some point in Q4
Old space timelines
Motherfucker i left in 2022 and it was about launch wtfff

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:48:00 UTC No. 16147742

Don't even need to comment on that mysoginy

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:49:21 UTC No. 16147744

>>16147725
YWNBAW

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:50:15 UTC No. 16147745

>>16147733
>>16147732
>>16147738
>>16147744
Saaaaaaamefaaaaaaaag

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:50:20 UTC No. 16147746

https://www.youtube.com/live/rNk8E6QqF2Y
great show

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:50:41 UTC No. 16147750

insane that they were allowed to get away with this

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:50:55 UTC No. 16147751

>>16147745
I would never post a frog retard

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:51:27 UTC No. 16147752

>>16147745
ESL means English Second Language

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:52:25 UTC No. 16147753

>>16147750
>these are the voyages of the starship... starship

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:52:29 UTC No. 16147754

>>16147750
its perfect

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:52:49 UTC No. 16147756

>>16147752
>>16147751
>>16147745
>>16147744
>>16147738
>>16147733
>>16147732
All me btw

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:52:52 UTC No. 16147757

encels, we will live in this

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:53:36 UTC No. 16147759

>>16147750

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:54:00 UTC No. 16147761

>>16147750
Orbital...refilling :)

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:54:23 UTC No. 16147762

>>16147741
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/vulcans-second-launch-likely-to-be-delayed-until-at-least-september/
>In fact, there is skepticism within the space agency about a fall launch. According to one source, during a recent meeting to integrate planning for space station activities, there were significant inconsistencies in the schedule that Sierra Space officials laid out for NASA.
>It is possible that Dream Chaser will not be ready to launch until 2025, and then its flight will be subject to the space station schedule, which must coordinate arriving crew and cargo vehicles from SpaceX, Northrop Grumman, Boeing, and Russia.

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1776069257576497327
>In a statement this evening from Col. James T. Horne of Space Systems Command, the Space Force confirms it will require two certification flights of Vulcan. Given the concerns about Dream Chaser outlined in the original story, it will be interesting to see what flies on Cert-2.

If they can't find another test flight payload Vulcan might have to wait a year between its first and second launches

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:55:29 UTC No. 16147763

>>16147661
>cooperate

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:56:22 UTC No. 16147764

Please take a moment out of your evening to say a quick prayer for the unfortunate astronauts who may be climbing aboard Starliner on the 6th.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:56:46 UTC No. 16147766

>>16147757
why
>>16147750
perfection

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 00:59:00 UTC No. 16147769

>>16147762
Who would want to fly on Vulcan after it shook that moonar lander to death?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:01:14 UTC No. 16147771

>>16147762
Fuuck

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:01:35 UTC No. 16147773

>>16147716
>>16147731
I'm not denying there's been inflation, but but yall are making it out to be much worse than it is. The US isn't in a Venezuela or Weimar style inflationary spiral. If it was, we wouldn't be seeing the growth in commercial space industries like we are now. Yall are just Zoomers who weren't economically cognizant before the trump administration.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:01:45 UTC No. 16147774

>>16147766
we will venture deep into the dark sea my fren

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:09:56 UTC No. 16147782

>>16147773

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:11:06 UTC No. 16147786

>>16147764
Is it worth it take PTO and drive over, or will it scroob? It's only 3 hours for me

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:11:47 UTC No. 16147787

>>16147769
https://www.satellitetoday.com/launch/2023/09/29/ula-targets-oct-6-launch-date-for-amazon-kuiper-prototypes/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Kuiper is supposed to have its first batch of production hardware ready to launch in October.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:12:22 UTC No. 16147789

>>16147773
i mean i get it, i used to feel the same way at that age. dollar doomerism has a thrill to it in the same way that climate doomerism can be thrilling if you're more inclined toward the left. it just becomes less fun with age and it's never a useful framework for planning for the future.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:13:20 UTC No. 16147790

>>16147787
Wrong October, but I wonder if any batches will be ready this year that could be bumped off Atlas.
Otherwise, a dummy payload is simple enough.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:13:37 UTC No. 16147791

>>16147773
>>16147789
shills. have you SEEN the price of eggs?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:14:22 UTC No. 16147792

>>16147791
Who the fuck eats eggs

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:16:00 UTC No. 16147796

>>16147791
I don't look at the price of eggs before I buy them

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:18:06 UTC No. 16147800

>>16147782
What? Did you just graduate with some coding degree and a pile of student debt and suddenly realize that you cant get that comfy high paying WFH job you thought would fall right in your lap?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:18:45 UTC No. 16147802

>>16147800
Shut the fuck up

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:20:43 UTC No. 16147805

>>16147791
the price of eggs is up because there's a bird flu outbreak and chicken farmers are having to kill infected flocks. the same thing happened in 2015 and the average price of a dozen eggs shot up to $2.96. the average price today... is $2.99.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:21:33 UTC No. 16147807

>>16147698
>Debt to GDP is over 100%, no country survives this.
they're crashing this country with no survivors (except for those who return from their New Zealand/Hawaii bunkers when the smoke clears)

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:23:52 UTC No. 16147810

>>16147792
>>16147796
vindictive sacks of shit. I can't even get gains because my egg smoothies blow the bank. girls won't look at me.
>>16147805
this seriously wouldn't have happened under a trump presidency though.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:24:30 UTC No. 16147812

>>16147802
Consider construction. Large and growing manpower shortage in every trade. Play your cards right and you could be welding for SpaceX in a few years

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:27:03 UTC No. 16147815

>>16147810
>gym bro wonders why no girls like him
>trump spastic
you should probably learn what percentage of women vote dem. not saying give up your thoughts but maybe keep it hidden.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:29:27 UTC No. 16147820

>>16147810
>trump could totally stop a bird flu
Lmao he did handle covid very well. Just because he got to ride the crest of the post 2008 financial crisis recovery and cut taxes while he did, you idiots think he's some sort of economic genius

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:30:26 UTC No. 16147821

Please shut the fuck up

🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:31:14 UTC No. 16147822

>>16147821
you seem mad

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:35:55 UTC No. 16147826

I posted it a couple of threads ago, but there's a few things that suggest Arianespace has been cutting corners.
https://europeanspaceflight.com/the-mysterious-ariane-6-upper-stage-hot-fire-test/
There's a chance we get a delay instead of a launch. Or something else.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:39:13 UTC No. 16147833

>>16147820
trump was infinitely better than Biden.
>>16147815
I'm not a gym bro, but I simply east 4 eggs less a week due to bidets disastrous economy which has hampered my gains

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:39:24 UTC No. 16147834

>>16147786
It's impossible to anticipate the incompetence of Boeing. If launch looks likely three days out, I'd say take the time off for the chance to see what will be Starliner's only manned flight.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:43:07 UTC No. 16147836

>>16147826
Where do you get the cutting corners idea from?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:46:24 UTC No. 16147837

I haven't checked in with the EM propulsion schizo scene recently, what's new?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:50:02 UTC No. 16147840

https://twitter.com/JoeTegtmeyer/status/1783969126093840498

Boring company trying to achieve z-pit or zero people in the tunnel, would be prett good for mars
Basically autonomous boring machines

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:50:57 UTC No. 16147842

>>16147836
>>16143976

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:51:27 UTC No. 16147845

>>16147826
>>16147836
my first reaction reading that is that they're probably having some software issue which is erroneously shutting things down in off-nominal conditions.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:52:00 UTC No. 16147846

>>16147837
New meme drive dropped last week
https://thedebrief.org/nasa-veterans-propellantless-propulsion-drive-that-physics-says-shouldnt-work-just-produced-enough-thrust-to-defeat-earths-gravity/

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:52:04 UTC No. 16147847

>>16147837
Someone copied the other dudes idea
The satellite test failed due to the sat shitting itself conveniently before the test could be conducted

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:53:06 UTC No. 16147848

>>16147842
Lol

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:55:08 UTC No. 16147850

>>16147834
Noted. I've been living in Florida for a while now and haven't made it out to the cape to see a launch yet. I've only seen an Atlas III and the Shuttle go up, but that was a long time ago

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:55:08 UTC No. 16147851

>>16147846
That presentation was in December. Neat that they're claiming it generates as much thrust as the drive's own mass, but if there hasn't been another peep out of them since then, my hopes are minimal.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 01:57:51 UTC No. 16147859

>>16147851
to be fair it apparently took 4 months after that presentation happened for anyone to notice and report on it. the youtube channel has a several videos posted since so if somebody wants to sit through 20+ hours of presentations there may well have been updates since: https://www.youtube.com/@AltPropulsionConference/streams

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 02:23:21 UTC No. 16147891

>>16147850
I lied, I didn't see an Atlas, it was one of the last Titan IV launches. I could see an atlas go next week if they don't scrub at the last minute

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 02:44:02 UTC No. 16147907

>>16147859
I would look through them but I am starting to hate the sensation of hope

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 02:51:32 UTC No. 16147909

>>16147757
Enceladus's ice skin is too thick to permit the pissweak sunlight that Saturn gets to reach the ocean. It would be deeper black than space itself.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 02:56:43 UTC No. 16147914

>>16147761
>>16147750
Starship uses two different cryogenic propellants: liquid Starship and liquid Starship

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 02:59:02 UTC No. 16147916

>>16147914
Starship is stored in the balls.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 03:07:08 UTC No. 16147923

>>16147840
I hope we can also achieve what I call "z-noe".

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 03:08:11 UTC No. 16147924

the number of people thinking that plane ufo abduction fake video thing is real makes me weep for humanity, people found the VFX effect it used like two years ago. god damn. elon y u reply to it

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 03:22:43 UTC No. 16147928

>>16147815
>you should probably learn what percentage of women vote dem
White women are as likely to vote Republican as Dem

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 03:30:36 UTC No. 16147939

>>16147924
I remember seeing the VFX reveal on /x/ in real time, the cope evolved into flat denial and schizophrenia very quickly.
It's mostly just funny. Don't waste your compassion and desire for mutual understanding on strangers, anon.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 03:48:12 UTC No. 16147952

>>16147928
>white

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 03:55:56 UTC No. 16147956

Give it to me straight bros
Lunar regolith concrete, yes or no?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 04:01:24 UTC No. 16147960

>>16147956
I prefer the new ICON Olympus suggestion from LunA-10 that basically 3D prints roads from regolith but if mixing regolith concrete is what we need to do then thats fine by me too.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 04:07:15 UTC No. 16147963

>>16147956
You need a whole different bunch of ingredients to make cement, primarily lime. How much lime is there on the moon? Ehhhhh. Only way I see lunar material used for construction is direct melting of regolith, sintering layers of it or something.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 04:15:30 UTC No. 16147969

>>16147963
Which is exactly what ICON said they would do with bots. Yes I am beginning to shill their solution because it seemed they really researched it and did some actual math and practical tests.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 04:17:33 UTC No. 16147970

I am a SpaceX, Vast and now ICON shill. Are there any other sectors of the spaceflight industry that I should look in to shilling?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 04:19:54 UTC No. 16147972

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 04:20:02 UTC No. 16147973

What if you start digging into the moon and two feet down you reach a smooth continuous metal surface extending in all directions

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 04:22:26 UTC No. 16147974

>>16147973
Someone will blame the jews is all I know

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 04:28:55 UTC No. 16147977

>>16147972
Woah.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 04:31:19 UTC No. 16147980

>>16147972
he's fast

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 04:57:24 UTC No. 16147990

>>16147973
they've taken cores deeper than that

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 05:08:21 UTC No. 16147999

>>16147990
Thats not the point of a hypothetical.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 05:10:29 UTC No. 16148000

>>16147999
look, you need to tailor your hypotheticals to the audience and /sfg/ simply knows too many counterfactuals to that sort of prompt
it also doesn't bear up with the lunar seismometer data

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 05:11:42 UTC No. 16148002

>>16148000
I didnt make the hypothetical.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 05:12:43 UTC No. 16148004

>>16148002
then don't fucking post it, retard
why did you think we would find that interesting?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 05:17:09 UTC No. 16148007

>>16147928
Only if they're married.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 05:18:32 UTC No. 16148009

>>16148004
I DIDNT POST IT EITHER YOU FUCKING NIGGER WHY DONT YOU KICK YOUR BRAIN INTO HIGH GEAR IF YOU CANT EVEN UNDERSTAND THAT BASIC IMPLICATION

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 05:19:22 UTC No. 16148010

>>16148009
if you didn't post it then why are you trying to defend it?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 05:20:42 UTC No. 16148011

>>16148010
BECAUSE youre being a STUPID and RETARDED FAGGOT about it and RUINING the FUN of a hypothetical in just thinking of what would be different, FAG.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 05:23:38 UTC No. 16148012

>>16148011
frustrated, anon?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 05:24:17 UTC No. 16148013

>>16147973
pressure seal a habitat to it and when the temperature is just right put my balls on it

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 05:32:00 UTC No. 16148017

>>16148013
Brr, that would be brisk
>>16147990
Deeper then, let's say it was discovered that rock only goes down so far (name your depth) before yielding to metal. Hollow or solid who knows, how would you even begin to investigate further?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 05:32:32 UTC No. 16148018

>>16148017
cut it? cutting metal isn't that hard

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 05:50:49 UTC No. 16148031

>>16148018
Yes it is.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 05:52:02 UTC No. 16148034

>>16148031
maybe it's aluminum foil

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 05:56:36 UTC No. 16148038

>>16148031
fool

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 05:58:42 UTC No. 16148039

>>16147909
I trust you, so i will bring night vision googles

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 06:00:35 UTC No. 16148042

>>16148018
>>16148031
it's not that easy in metallurgy

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 06:02:05 UTC No. 16148043

>>16148042
just throw enough high speed corundum at it, or maybe diamond
get it hot and hit it with oxygen
straight up a heat attack, boil it away with directed energy

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 06:06:31 UTC No. 16148047

>>16148043
Yeah youre clearly retarded.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 06:09:28 UTC No. 16148049

>>16148047
>those methods of cutting metal simply won't work because they just won't
>ignores that it's fucking piss easy and anybody can just do it
we've developed an entire civilization based off of cutting metals, anon

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 06:09:36 UTC No. 16148050

>>16148018
Maybe its super old, maybe its alien. You sure you wanna just hack away at it first thing?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 06:11:10 UTC No. 16148052

>>16148050
yeah, obviously, you got a better plan? whack it with a hammer and listen to the vibrations to tell how thick it is maybe, do it with a fancier system to get more detailed information if you're a pussy

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 06:17:16 UTC No. 16148055

>>16148017
Go to the nearest mascon, it's probably a door
Begin excavating

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 06:32:31 UTC No. 16148063

>>16147672
/sfg/ - Spaceflight General

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 06:39:52 UTC No. 16148067

>>16148063
God I hope this happens

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 06:43:52 UTC No. 16148070

I have no mouth but I must sneed

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 06:49:20 UTC No. 16148074

Top 10 Photos Taken Before Disaster

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 06:52:33 UTC No. 16148077

>>16148074
Thats just a shadow, chud. Stop fudding starliner

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 06:53:44 UTC No. 16148078

>>16148074
Imagine training your whole life, being a fighter pilot, getting masters degrees, sucking some NASA nergress' toes, enduring all the bullshit only to turn into a Boeing(tm) fireball.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 06:54:44 UTC No. 16148079

>>16148074
You only posted one photo retard

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 07:03:43 UTC No. 16148084

>>16148079
Eat shit and die

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 07:07:00 UTC No. 16148086

>>16148079
Honestly, this looks kino

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 07:08:21 UTC No. 16148088

>>16148084
We all do it

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 07:09:51 UTC No. 16148092

>>16148088
Do it. Poo it.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 07:10:50 UTC No. 16148093

What's a good space flight game

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 07:12:55 UTC No. 16148096

Earth? If you guess that, you were wromg.

This is Titan, the largest Moon of Saturn.

Yup, that's what it looks like. James Webb Space Telescope

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 07:13:47 UTC No. 16148097

>>16148096
Fake. And. Gay.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 07:15:39 UTC No. 16148099

>>16148097
It's science fact

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 07:18:04 UTC No. 16148104

>>16148096
All color images on the James Webb Space Telescope save for the shortest wavelengths on NIRCAM are acts of creative interpretation, falling into red, infrared, and mid-infrared exclusively.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 07:19:22 UTC No. 16148106

>>16148104
Why is the photo green, blue, brown? Continents, plants and ocean

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 07:26:00 UTC No. 16148109

>>16148096
why do astronomers lie?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 07:30:02 UTC No. 16148114

>>16148109
Why do chuds fud?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 07:46:22 UTC No. 16148127

>>16147791
Here in Russia, they've grown 3 times in December.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 07:59:17 UTC No. 16148133

>>16147698
>Debt to GDP is over 100%, no country survives this.
Can you explain why? Or is it just a slogan you repeat.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 08:01:21 UTC No. 16148135

>>16148078
the last two werent fireballs, why would this one be any different? the only difference is there are real people on board, so arguably more safety checks.
they'll be fine like the last ones were

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 08:02:22 UTC No. 16148137

>>16148096
Why would Earth looks brown from space? what kind of drooling retard would think this is Earth? wtf?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 08:05:33 UTC No. 16148140

>>16148137
here you dropped this L

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 08:14:42 UTC No. 16148151

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 08:19:04 UTC No. 16148155

>>16147928
Do they become liberal because they are mentally ill or does being liberal requires you to develop mental illness to stay liberal despite reality creeping in?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 08:24:08 UTC No. 16148158

>>16148050
Look why do you just tell us your preferred answer to your hypothetical so we can cut to the chase and bypass your railroading.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 08:28:51 UTC No. 16148164

>>16148151
Every. Single. Time.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 09:31:24 UTC No. 16148210

>>16148140
it looks blue and white from space. what you posted isnt a satellite image

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 09:58:49 UTC No. 16148226

>>16148164
stop noticing things anti semite

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 10:22:17 UTC No. 16148250

>>16147738
No, you dont learn english as a non english speaking person, you just pick some of it up by watching tv.
the anglo's screaming ESL faggot all the time is just a bonus.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 10:26:06 UTC No. 16148253

>>16147689
is that why BE4 worse in every concievable way, including ISP?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 10:29:35 UTC No. 16148257

>>16147972
H-HAYAI!

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 10:47:50 UTC No. 16148281

>>16148250
Kys pajeet

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 10:58:36 UTC No. 16148292

>>16148253
>t. pretends to not know about raptor real isp or is just ignorant

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 11:09:11 UTC No. 16148300

>>16148292
>real raptor ISP
the one that has been and still is higher than BE-4's?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 11:11:14 UTC No. 16148302

>>16148300
>40t to orbit actual payload out of 100t projected
uhm... yeah... about that......

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 11:36:35 UTC No. 16148320

TWO.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 11:38:06 UTC No. 16148322

MORE.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 11:39:12 UTC No. 16148326

WEEKS.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 11:43:40 UTC No. 16148331

>>16148320
>>16148322
Static fire?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 11:44:45 UTC No. 16148333

>>16148331
THATS THE ACTUAL FUCKING LAUNCH YOU IDIOT.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 11:47:35 UTC No. 16148335

>>16148333
Retarded nigger.
>>16148331
No B11 transport and maybe another SF

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 11:53:41 UTC No. 16148342

SpaceX has over 13k employees, that means each launch costs about 130 employees yearly wages which is a hard lower bound on launch costs. If SpaceX wasnt doing R&D and was jsut focused on profitmaxxing I wonder how few employees they could have for the same F9 launch cadence?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 12:00:53 UTC No. 16148346

>>16147648
REPEAT AFTER ME: 16 (actually confirmed by NASA to be 17) LAUNCHES for 1 mission!

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 12:00:56 UTC No. 16148347

>>16148342
Like 100.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 12:02:08 UTC No. 16148348

>>16148346
>REPEAT AFTER ME
go back to xitter

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 12:02:51 UTC No. 16148350

>>16148346
>12 days later
They mean 12 minutes, right?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 12:29:05 UTC No. 16148370

>>16147757
>square cross section
Does it have a pressure vessel in it?

🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 12:51:46 UTC No. 16148385

>>16147660
>>16147666
>>16147670
I think the problem with recent inflation, as it pertains to spaceflight, isn't the inflation itself, rather it is the interest payments on US federal debt. Interest payments are increasing rapidly, and will keep doing so the longer the Fed has to keep interest rates high, which it needs to do to keep the inflation rate down. The more the US government has to pay in interest, the less money will be left for vanity projects, because vanity projects are among the politically easiest things to not fund.

Interest payments are already 3.1% of GDP and projected to reach 3.9% of GDP by 2034. In parallel to this, mandatory spending is projected to increase from 13.9% of GDP to 15% of GDP. Federal nondefense discretionary spending is 3.3% of GDP, projected to be 2.6% of GDP by 2034, because something has to compensate. And this assumes that federal defense discretionary spending goes down a lot as a % of GDP, despite a spiraling cold war with China & co who have faster economic growth than the US & co have

Of course, GDP will increase in the meantime, so 2.6% of GDP wouldn't be a 24% reduction in absolute terms. Still, it means less money *than otherwise would have been available*

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 12:53:55 UTC No. 16148390

>>16147660
>>16147666
>>16147670
I think the problem with recent inflation, as it pertains to spaceflight, isn't the inflation itself, rather it is the interest payments on US federal debt. Interest payments are increasing rapidly, and will keep doing so the longer the Fed has to keep interest rates high, which it needs to do to keep the inflation rate down. The more the US government has to pay in interest, the less money will be left for vanity projects, because vanity projects are among the politically easiest things to not fund.

Interest payments are already 3.1% of GDP and projected to reach 3.9% of GDP by 2034. In parallel to this, mandatory spending is projected to increase from 13.9% of GDP to 15% of GDP. Federal nondefense discretionary spending is 3.3% of GDP, projected to be 2.6% of GDP by 2034, because something has to compensate. And this assumes that federal defense discretionary spending goes down a lot as a % of GDP, despite a spiraling cold war with China & co who have faster economic growth than the US & co have

Of course, GDP will increase in the meantime, so 2.6% of GDP wouldn't be a 21% reduction in absolute terms. Still, it means less money *than otherwise could have been available*

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 12:55:34 UTC No. 16148394

>>16147648
Fat Falcon 9 (5m)

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 12:55:53 UTC No. 16148396

>>16148370
He doesn't know about rectangular PVs

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 12:57:52 UTC No. 16148399

>>16148396
Of course they can be built, however a circular cross section is the optimal shape, no?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 13:04:26 UTC No. 16148410

>>16148399
I was gonna shitpost and say "its hard to build circles" but then I remembered how easy it is in pressure vesselry.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 13:09:54 UTC No. 16148417

>>16147707
>interest rates are actually NEGATIVE
You mean, real interest rates are negative. Nominal interest rates certainly aren't.

Real interest rates are positive rn, they are higher than inflation

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 13:11:24 UTC No. 16148423

>>16147698
>Debt to GDP is over 100%, no country survives this.
It is manageable, as long as the interest on that debt remains low

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 13:14:22 UTC No. 16148430

>>16148390

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 13:42:21 UTC No. 16148454

>>16148390

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 13:43:38 UTC No. 16148458

>>16148454
Shut the fuck up

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 13:48:04 UTC No. 16148463

>>16148430
this is the world they wanted when they created all the fucking "entitlements" and started allowing foreigners in

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:01:11 UTC No. 16148473

That moment when you left the flash on

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:01:16 UTC No. 16148474

https://twitter.com/teslaownersSV/status/1784082039198941313

Well? How is SpaceX supposed to compete?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:03:16 UTC No. 16148477

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:10:11 UTC No. 16148483

Long March 5 with Chang'e 6 rolled out. Planned launch on May 3

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:15:31 UTC No. 16148492

Progress on the new double door VAB at Wenchang

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:17:46 UTC No. 16148495

It's over.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:18:38 UTC No. 16148497

>>16148495

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:19:51 UTC No. 16148498

>>16148495
I like my astronauts extra crispy

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:23:51 UTC No. 16148501

>>16148495
surely tiles for capsule re-entry were figured out with apollo? why not use the same material?
>shKKKK4

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:26:41 UTC No. 16148504

>>16148501
Apollo sued ablative too. The heat shield thing is not a problem, just NASA is sperging because it's not exactly what they predicted in their models. In Apollo a 1 in 10 risk of mission loss was seen as ok so they never speged about such things

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:28:45 UTC No. 16148507

How long will it take for Nasa to let astronauts go on a starship with their safety autism.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:30:36 UTC No. 16148508

>>16148495
just build and test 10 more orions, should be easy given their budget

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:33:23 UTC No. 16148511

>>16148507
the only US crewed vehicle to not have a launch escape system was the shuttle and we all know how that went. A crewed starship would probably require a unique variant that has super super dracos and a detachable crew compartment

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:37:57 UTC No. 16148519

>>16148507
>>16148511
Most of the risky stuff happens on launch. I imagine that NASA will allow astronauts to transfer from orion to starship without much fuss. On the other hand, it's going to be a long time before astronauts can launch on starship.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:39:41 UTC No. 16148522

>>16148495
If the US ever lands another man on the moon and brings him back to Earth alive it's going to be using SpaceX hardware for the whole mission.

"We'll fuck around for decades and test once or twice if you're lucky" is perhaps the worst way to do anything.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:39:44 UTC No. 16148523

>>16147707
>Companies are financially insane not to sell bonds
>Investors, what are they gonna do, not buy bonds?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:41:02 UTC No. 16148524

>>16148495

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:45:20 UTC No. 16148528

>>16148495

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:46:01 UTC No. 16148530

>>16148511
the big brain answer is that Starship is the launch escape vehicle
- is on top
- can detach from the booster
- can throost high enough for a successful landing

compare with shittle
- is on side
- can not detach during launch and boost
- can not throost itself high enough to land
- it just detached from its fuel even if it could throost enough

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:47:22 UTC No. 16148536

>>16148511
>unique variant that has super super dracos and a detachable crew compartment
elon can just steal from philip bono again

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:48:00 UTC No. 16148537

>>16148528
Why are you decapitating and cremating this man?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:49:24 UTC No. 16148539

>>16148536
Why is this rocket søyfacing

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:51:03 UTC No. 16148541

>>16148539
take your meds

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:52:41 UTC No. 16148543

>>16148539
>>16148541
sus

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:53:19 UTC No. 16148544

>>16148530
If starship can fly without failure enough times, It doesn't make sense to include a flight abort system. We barely use them anyways, and you could spend all the time you spent on the LAS on making the rocket more reliable instead. With how many times falcon 9 has launched, crew dragon will probably never end up having to use its abort system.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:54:07 UTC No. 16148545

>>16148541
What did anon mean by this?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:56:41 UTC No. 16148547

>>16148545
risperidone NOW

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:58:11 UTC No. 16148550

ANOTHER reusable rocket unveiled, it will splash down in the ocean and towed back to port
>>16148394
based

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:59:02 UTC No. 16148552

>>16148547
I cant find one in this so you win Ill take my meds

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 14:59:46 UTC No. 16148553

>>16148528
imagine the wedgie

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 15:00:53 UTC No. 16148555

>>16148550
why do people make companies and get investors based on obviously retarded ideas? Propulsive landing is lcearly superior to water landing. The only reason to do water landing is if you don't have flight computers good enough

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 15:00:56 UTC No. 16148556

>noooo! HLS is too tall it'll topple! nooooooo!

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 15:03:52 UTC No. 16148557

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 15:04:34 UTC No. 16148558

>>16148555
maybe their flight computers aren't good enough lol
but i mean there are plenty of bad ideas that get funding sadly

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 15:05:52 UTC No. 16148559

>>16148550
Have they explained how they're going to deal with all the salt water corroding everything?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 15:08:59 UTC No. 16148561

>>16148559
and, now that I think about it, doesn't that mean that they have to build this thing so it can flop down into the water without breaking? That's a lot of payload mass wasted, however they do it.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 15:12:51 UTC No. 16148565

>>16148555
Maybe they're running on a shoestring budget and don't want to make the extra investment, at least not yet. They'd need landing legs, a test rig for the landing legs, a ship, more sensors and better control so as to reduce the risk of wrecking the ship, etc. Space Epoch isn't even developing their own engines, they're buying existing engines from JZYJ. So perhaps Space Epoch doesn't want to tell their investors yet that they're going to need another few hundred million RMB before they can do proper reuse - that'll be a "surprise" for later.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 15:23:19 UTC No. 16148572

>>16147974
that's just your guilty conscience speaking

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 15:33:36 UTC No. 16148579

>>16148572
Is this implying Im a jew or implying that I put the steel floor on the moon.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 15:36:11 UTC No. 16148581

>>16148579
>steel
the moon floor is made of titanium, anon

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 15:38:09 UTC No. 16148585

>>16148495
It's going to turn out that they got scammed by a contractor not actually testing materials again, just watch

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 15:41:25 UTC No. 16148590

>>16148507
The first astronaut to fly on Starship wont be a NASA astronaut

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 15:45:08 UTC No. 16148591

>>16147661
How does he think NASA gets anything done?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 15:47:19 UTC No. 16148593

>>16148585
like the steel they have been building navy subs out of for decades? Is the woman behind faking those tests in prison or not right now?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 15:47:42 UTC No. 16148594

>>16148501
>>16148504
the whole justification for designing orion as an apollo clone in the first place was that all of the work on the thermal/aerodynamic characteristics had already been done and they weren't going to have to lose any time due to sperging over unexpected results. now they're doing it anyway.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 15:52:11 UTC No. 16148598

>phenolic resin heatshields are now a lost technology
its so over

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 15:58:41 UTC No. 16148602

Just started watching the joe rogan episode with the moon landing denier, this dude is delusional as fuck.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:04:47 UTC No. 16148609

>>16148602
I don't like to make myself mad so I skipped that one.
>>16148581
Or maybe some exotic alloy we haven't identified yet. Discovering that the moon was artificial would be such a shock that I'm not sure what the next step would even be using that information. Do you cut into it to see what's inside? Can you? Search around for openings? Try x-raying it? You could have a whole Rama-like story of just figuring out what the hell the moon is and why its there.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:05:55 UTC No. 16148610

>>16148602
that was real? I scrolled past some thumbnails or shorts on youtube with that silently autoplaying with captions and I thought it was just AI spam

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:08:49 UTC No. 16148613

>>16148609
Put a nuclear reactor on the surface and loads of antineutrino detectors all over the Moon to probe the interior is what I'd do

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:13:31 UTC No. 16148616

>>16148609
the moon is made from titanium, anon
basically everything that's not silicon and oxygen is titanium except for the parts that are made from iron

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:19:40 UTC No. 16148624

>>16148602
Number of times Artemis has been to the moon: 0
They are literally just waiting for AI to be powerful enough to generate reasonable doubt in a falsification story, then they will appeal to complexity as an explanation why the conspiracy is impossibru.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:28:48 UTC No. 16148633

>>16148624
The fuck are you even doing here.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:32:48 UTC No. 16148636

I just don't believe in the moon. nobody's ever been able to give me good proof that it was real. all the photos of it look fake. you really want me to believe there a big rock spinning around us a quarter of a million miles away? yeah, ok. sure.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:33:07 UTC No. 16148637

>>16148624
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:33:17 UTC No. 16148638

>>16148633
Its the trump OP btw

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:36:07 UTC No. 16148640

>>16148636
it was pretty convincing when it blocked the sun earlier

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:42:27 UTC No. 16148644

>>16148640
Nta but it's a little weird that its just the right distance and size to do that. Does any other moon fully eclipse the sun in our solar system?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:44:45 UTC No. 16148646

>>16148644
no
if interstellar space travel was easier we'd be a galactic tourism hotspot on eclipse dates

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:45:18 UTC No. 16148648

>>16148644
I think you can get total eclipses on the various moons of Jupiter and Saturn but don't quote me on that but otherwise no
Pluto/Charon are too big and everything else is too small

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:49:54 UTC No. 16148651

>>16148636
Encouraging skepticism toward widely accepted scientific facts, such as the existence of the moon, can hinder intellectual progress and promote anti-science sentiments, potentially impacting critical thinking skills and the advancement of society as a whole.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:52:14 UTC No. 16148654

>>16148651
moon believers really have to make chatGPT write their 4chan posts huh

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:57:28 UTC No. 16148657

How would you explain trump to an alien?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 16:58:10 UTC No. 16148659

>>16148151
Ojai us like 80 miles from the launch pad too. Insufferable Cali nimby

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:02:46 UTC No. 16148662

>>16148555
I think China's launch sector is in a "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks" mode right now, with easy money available even for ideas that would normally be dismissed as harebrained. Kerosene, methane, gas generator cycle, ORSC, FFSC, staged combustion tap-off cycle, steel, aluminium, big, small, medium, tricore, pentacore, asymmetrical dual-core(!), propulsive landing, VTHL, HTHL, TBCC first stage, air launch, electromagnetic launch rail, etc, are all being worked on by someone.

If XZY-1's splash recovery mode fails, well, at least it can probably be redesigned to land on a barge with modest changes, and used as an expendable vehicle while they redesign it to land on a barge

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:05:33 UTC No. 16148665

>>16148662
>I think China's launch sector is in a "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks" mode right now, with easy money available even for ideas that would normally be dismissed as harebrained.
let a thousand flowers bloom isn't a bad strategy if you're trying to come from behind. 15 years ago nobody besides a few internet spergs thought propulsive landing of a first-stage booster could do much good and then it ended up being the best thing to ever happen.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:12:28 UTC No. 16148672

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:15:42 UTC No. 16148675

>>16148672
Beautiful

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:16:32 UTC No. 16148676

>>16148672
>>16148675
samefag aifag footfag

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:17:55 UTC No. 16148678

>>16148676
no
no
no

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:19:34 UTC No. 16148679

proof

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:20:19 UTC No. 16148680

>>16148454
oh no bidenbros, how are we going to spin this

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:25:47 UTC No. 16148683

>>16148672
Beautiful feet my dear

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:43:11 UTC No. 16148695

Is this a plausible design?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:44:58 UTC No. 16148697

>>16148644
This is your brain on copernican-principle bullshit.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:50:10 UTC No. 16148701

>>16148683
kek
Why do they always write like this?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:52:31 UTC No. 16148705

>>16148346
>landing 50 tons on the moon is more complicated than landing 2 tons on the moon
shocker

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:56:33 UTC No. 16148708

>>16148701
They think it makes them sound less creepy and weird.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:57:33 UTC No. 16148709

>>16148705
no you don't understand, we shouldn't do hard things. apollo must not have been hard because we did it fifty years ago. we should not try to improve on that, it's too much work. it can't happen

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:58:25 UTC No. 16148711

>>16148662
>it can probably be redesigned to land on a barge with modest changes
I think if the splash doesn't work it'll just die. A big advantage of this strategy is that even if a lot of them are unsuccessful there are going to be at least a few that are

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 17:59:31 UTC No. 16148712

>>16148708
>>16148701
>701▶>>16148708
>>>16148683
>>16148683
>>16148679
>>16148678
>>16148676
>>16148675
>>16148672
all (You) btw

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 18:15:34 UTC No. 16148719

>>16148712
(You)/(I) missed:
>>16148712
>>16148719

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 18:24:38 UTC No. 16148730

lol

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 18:29:34 UTC No. 16148736

https://twitter.com/mcrs987/status/1784239038058103070

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 18:33:55 UTC No. 16148739

>>16148730
Why arent we funding this??

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 18:35:41 UTC No. 16148741

>>16148730
>design SSTO to be a lifting body to save mass on wings
>too heavy, needs wings anyway
>complex lifting body fuel tanks don't work and kill the whole program
sad

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 18:35:51 UTC No. 16148742

>>16148739
spaceplanes are gay

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 18:41:05 UTC No. 16148746

>>16148741
i've seen people smarter than me speculate that the rockwell x-33 was designed so that it could have strap-on solids attached to the sides in case it couldn't meet its mass margins. might've been better than venturestar's development hell.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 18:44:00 UTC No. 16148752

>>16148746
if nothing else they would have at least gotten the test vehicle flying
also they supposedly had plans to overhaul the shuttles with X-33 tech which would have been nice (source: some faggot on twitter)

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 18:47:20 UTC No. 16148760

>>16148074
I feel sorry for him, but he will have Baba Yaga on board, so maybe she's going to enchant the Starliner in order to get them safely to ISS and back.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 18:49:31 UTC No. 16148764

>>16148752
>overhaul the shuttles
Upgrading the TPS would be a priority but I haven't seen a proposal that didn't add so much weight it made the vehicle functionally useless.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 18:52:47 UTC No. 16148767

>>16148764
apparently the new tiles would be lighter, more durable and easier to refurbish (source: some faggot on twitter)

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 18:53:35 UTC No. 16148769

https://twitter.com/Harry__Stranger/status/1784206013782241364

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 18:56:38 UTC No. 16148772

>>16148769

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 18:58:20 UTC No. 16148773

>>16148752
>>16148764
>>16148767

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 19:00:53 UTC No. 16148780

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 19:04:00 UTC No. 16148784

>>16148780
little to no difference

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 19:10:41 UTC No. 16148792

>>16148780
ngl I like the new flaps

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 19:12:42 UTC No. 16148796

>>16148792
yet you probably sitll hate v3 starship

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 19:13:57 UTC No. 16148801

>>16148796
I DO

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 19:16:25 UTC No. 16148807

>>16148739
It was going to put all the other rocket companies out of business so it had to go.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 19:18:36 UTC No. 16148811

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 19:19:45 UTC No. 16148815

>>16148780
The booster is gonna look sick with all those engines exposed firing and making the mega mach diamond.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 19:21:55 UTC No. 16148818

>>16148773
replacing the OMS with cryoengines (rl-10s?) would've been fairly easy since the pods were their own separate apparatus, but there's no way nasa would have ever actually pulled the trigger on cryogenic maneuvering propellant on a manned spacecraft.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 19:25:24 UTC No. 16148825

>>16148818
shuttle was epic, but they got stuck with a shitty system and neevr upgraded for muh safety. Ironically if they replaced the solids with liquid boosters then both disasters wouldn't have happened. And that would also mean that the OMS wouldn't have to fire for half the flight just to get to orbit which would allow them to go to higher objects

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 19:31:43 UTC No. 16148831

>shuttle was epic

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 19:32:04 UTC No. 16148832

>>16148825
>shuttle was epic
stopped reading there, oldspacecuck.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 19:37:28 UTC No. 16148843

>>16148825
>shuttle was epic
It was, ignore the haters.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 19:44:50 UTC No. 16148853

>>16148843
Looking cool was the Shuttle's only positive feature

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 19:44:58 UTC No. 16148854

>>16148818
That is why Starship will beat them to Mars. Imagine not being able to use ISRU to refill your RCS budget.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 19:45:53 UTC No. 16148859

>>16148709
so true, so true.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 19:46:48 UTC No. 16148863

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 19:53:53 UTC No. 16148875

>>16148853
Brainwashed

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 20:01:07 UTC No. 16148887

/sfg/ is to the shuttle what redditlettermedia is to the star wars prequels - baseless nitpicking and lies for millennials to mindlessly spew until it becomes the received opinion

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 20:01:34 UTC No. 16148890

>>16148875
It's all relative. Compare with the stacked cylinders that preceded it

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 20:03:23 UTC No. 16148895

>>16148890
how fucking dare you slander saturn V you worthless ingrate MAGGOT
>>16148887
>everyone who doesnt agree with me is reddit
found the redditor

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 20:05:28 UTC No. 16148900

>>16148887
Cope. The Shuttle was inferior to the Saturn V in every way imaginable.
>reddit
>star wars
expected nothing less of a Shuttloid pedo guy

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 20:20:15 UTC No. 16148923

>>16148887
the thing that really gets me about shuttle is how they got the thing flying only 2 years behind schedule and more or less on budget. less than 1/5 of the money apollo/saturn had for something that in a lot of ways was more technically ambitious than apollo/saturn, and they more or less pulled it off. the engineering prowess of nasa and their contractors in the 1970s was in no way diminished from what it had been in the 1960s. if they had been given a better design to build i think it would've worked really well.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 20:20:34 UTC No. 16148924

>>16148853
shuttle was really good when you had payloads that needed human intervention to deploy them. satellites that couldn't unfold themselves, modular stations that needed someone to hold them in place while they bolt them together.
This was sometimes worth the premium of manned spaceflight. unfortunately shuttle's requirement to always have a pilot on board incentivized them to waste money throwing even more astronauts at missions where they weren't really needed.
it's all tradeoffs, and shuttle's were ones that /sfg/ aren't happy they made.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 20:23:26 UTC No. 16148928

>>16148924
Wrong. Still worse than a rocket with a capsule and one rocket with the payload.
Especially when its about stations then the Shuttle makes no sense whatsoever since you can asynchronously launch capsules the and then have the astronauts EVA when the payload arrives.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 20:25:44 UTC No. 16148931

>>16148924
The shuttle's flight rate issues were mostly due to congress canceling the space station and lunar base elements of STS. What was left was no where near enough to close the economic case, so they decided to cancel every other American launch system in a desperate attempt to make the Shuttle work.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 20:34:01 UTC No. 16148939

>>16148559
it's going to be waterproof

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 20:35:02 UTC No. 16148941

>>16148602
moon landing deniers don't exist

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 20:36:25 UTC No. 16148943

>>16148924
there's been some vague innuendo over the years that whatever spysat got launched on the infamous sts-27 had some sort of failure immediately after deployment, but they were able to re-rendezvous and capture it and fix the problem. there were some moments when launching crew with every cargo looked like it had been a smart move.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 20:36:42 UTC No. 16148944

>>16148644
fake
I saw the eclipse on TV and it looks like a Mexican ballsack

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 20:47:54 UTC No. 16148956

>>16148941
That joke would fly over the head of most moon landing deniers&flat earthers

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 20:50:41 UTC No. 16148960

>>16148956
This guy was based actually. Just wanted to ride rockets and grifted flerfers to make it happen.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:00:32 UTC No. 16148975

>>16148454
>Basic bitch pandemic happens as predicted
>Every country on earth commits economic suicide

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:05:45 UTC No. 16148982

>>16148956
I have seen several anons say this on /sfg/ back when it went down, but nobody actually has anything to back that up.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:06:15 UTC No. 16148983

>>16148695
no, but deploying rovers in KSP sucks ass so do what you must

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:07:49 UTC No. 16148987

>>16148960
>>16148982
This response was for you, i fucked up.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:12:32 UTC No. 16148991

>>16148975
It's because the boomers didn't have enough kids so we're living in gerontocracies.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:13:07 UTC No. 16148992

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/rocket-report-sls-workforce-cuts-new-glenn-launch-to-launch-in-the-early-fall/

Small Rockets
>Shetland spaceport advancing toward launch
>Rocket Lab launches 5th Electron this year.
>PLD Space has raised 120 million euros.

Medium Rockets
>SpaceX lands 300th Falcon booster
>China launches astronaut mission.

Heavy Rockets
>China on track for 2030 lunar landing.
>NASA considering changes to Artemis III.
>Boeing will cut SLS workforce.
>New Glenn to debut in September?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:16:29 UTC No. 16148996

https://spacenews.com/advisory-committee-recommends-moving-faa-commercial-space-office-out-of-the-agency/
>At an April 23 meeting, the FAA’s Commercial Space Transportation Advisory Committee (COMSTAC) unanimously approved a recommendation that the FAA’s Office of Commercial Space Transportation, or AST, be moved out of the FAA and turned into a standalone organization directly under the Secretary of Transportation.
>Making the office independent of the FAA would give it more influence, Nield said, putting it at the same level as other modes of transportation. “You’d have access to the cabinet secretary. You’d have a seat at the table. You’d have the ability to more clearly make your case for needed resources and ask for help when there’s important issues to be decided,” he said.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:18:34 UTC No. 16148998

>>16148996
tl:dr the space section (AST) of FAA is going to be split off into its own agency directly under the secretary of transport, which will give it more resources

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:27:59 UTC No. 16149003

>>16148982
idk man that's just what it says on his wikipedia article
>Following Hughes' death, Darren Shuster, his public relations representative, stated: "We used flat Earth as a PR stunt... Flat Earth allowed us to get so much publicity that we kept going! I know he didn’t believe in flat Earth and it was a schtick."[24][4][25][26]
>Science writer Mick West also came away convinced from talking to Hughes "that he was not driven by seeking to explain that the earth is flat but rather wanted to use the topic to promote his stuntman career."[27]
>On the other hand, Michael Linn, who was a partner on the documentary Rocketman: Mad Mike's Mission to Prove the Flat-Earth, said that Hughes' belief appeared genuine.[4]

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:33:42 UTC No. 16149007

>>16149003
This is news to me, the dude bamboozled
a shitload of retards.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:38:52 UTC No. 16149013

>>16149007
bamboozling 101: make your lies more interesting than the truth

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:43:12 UTC No. 16149018

>>16148887
the prequels aren't good but I like them
STS was fucking awful but at least it looked cool

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 22:14:42 UTC No. 16149057

>>16148931
This, it was the original rocket to nowhere. As we saw with ISS the Shuttle was actually a pretty decent fit for space station construction. If that station had contained prop depots and a shipyard for assembling lunar/interplanetary stuff (and used LRBs) then we could have kickstarted the proper space expansion age by 1985 or so.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 22:17:30 UTC No. 16149062

https://twitter.com/tobyliiiiiiiiii/status/1784331525074604205/

Space planes as emergency ambulance in space

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 22:17:59 UTC No. 16149064

Wake up honey, Berger's COOKING:
NASA still doesn’t understand root cause of Orion heat shield issue: https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/nasa-still-doesnt-understand-root-cause-of-orion-heat-shield-issue
NASA may alter Artemis III to have Starship and Orion dock in low-Earth orbit: https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/04/nasa-may-alter-artemis-iii-to-have-starship-and-orion-dock-in-low-earth-orbit/?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 22:18:30 UTC No. 16149065

imagine launching two dragon capsules, a falcon heavy launched recoverable payload bay vehicle for the capsules to dock to, and potentially another falcon 9 or falcon heavy launch for the payload that goes inside said vehicle.
that's what you'd have to do to replicate the capability of your average shuttle launch, and the shuttle could do it all-in-one.
I wish I lived in the timeline where it wasn't such a piece of shit.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 22:20:20 UTC No. 16149066

>>16149057
>LRBs
coping shittlefag
>proper space expansion age
unlikely to happen even now. there's no incentive for it to happen.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 22:32:42 UTC No. 16149080

>>16149064
Oh yeah, I read about Orion’s heat shield a while ago and meant to post it about it here. Someone (inside of NASA) wrote a personal blog post detailing the problem pretty well but it’s since been deleted

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 22:33:35 UTC No. 16149082

>>16149065
As we're discovering with Starship, for manned payloads over a certain size, everything becomes shootly over time. Look at that illustration, it's basically an early Starship with full delta wings instead of two sets of flaps, and landing gear instead of header tanks for flip and burn landing.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 22:35:29 UTC No. 16149090

>>16149064
>NASA officials declared the Artemis I mission successful in late 2021
how can you get the year wrong in the very first sentence?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 22:37:29 UTC No. 16149094

>>16149057
The job was a good fit for the shuttle's basic stats but it it really wanted to fulfill all of that it would have needed a dozens of launches per year and there was no way the shuttle as it existed was ever going to do that safely. If they added some performance with LRBs and then spent that on carrying a heavier but more durable heat shield they might have had a shot at it.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 22:49:29 UTC No. 16149116

>>16149057
>the Shuttle was actually a pretty decent fit for space station construction
The Shuttle-C would have been but astronauts threw a fit for muh flight hours so it never got built

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 23:08:13 UTC No. 16149134

>>16148996
>>16148998
It's important that commercial spaceflight is directly overseen by a faggot who sucks cocks and gets fucked in the ass.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 23:15:06 UTC No. 16149143

>>16149090
His goals are beyond your understanding.

>>16149134
OP runs commercial spaceflight?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 23:19:20 UTC No. 16149153

>>16148996
FINALLY

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 23:22:19 UTC No. 16149158

>>16149143
It’s a clark article.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 23:33:32 UTC No. 16149175

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPA7iz6gQpw
Time to watch Falcon 9 launch some European Galileo satellites. Weather is 70% go
T-60:00

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 23:33:34 UTC No. 16149176

Is NASA worship a cult?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 23:38:18 UTC No. 16149185

>>16149176
oldspace is a cult yes

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 23:40:26 UTC No. 16149188

>>16149176
>>16149185
No. SpaceX is a cult. They have a cult leader with ultimate authority.
NASA would not be so dysfunctional were they a cult.
They are a dirty mess of complex intraorganization politics and its consequences.
There is no clear vision, no religious fervor and no ultimate authority.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 23:40:35 UTC No. 16149189

>>16148924
Imagine giving up this for the Shuttle

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 23:42:17 UTC No. 16149191

>>16149175
ehh at least it's not starlink

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 23:42:46 UTC No. 16149194

What do you call the era before oldspace (oldspace is shuttle-SpaceX start)? Would Saturn V and before be considered legacyspace?

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 23:43:42 UTC No. 16149198

>>16149189
I don't have to, it happened.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 23:43:51 UTC No. 16149199

>>16149194
Saturn is in a league of its own. I would say around the Titan IV/Space Shuttle/Delta IV era

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 23:45:03 UTC No. 16149201

>>16149189
What an amazing photo

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 23:47:30 UTC No. 16149205

>>16149189
It was too big for anything but moon missions and too expensive to be continued long term. It's iconic but it was also set up for failure.

Anonymous at Sat, 27 Apr 2024 23:52:47 UTC No. 16149214

>>16149205
>It was too big for anything but moon missions
It was perfect for making giga fucking huge modular stations out of S-IVBs.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 00:06:49 UTC No. 16149234

>>16148818
What will you gain from cryo OMS? It's not like it's leaving LEO with all that bullshit dry mass. Also you can crossfeed between the RCS with hypergolics. Not worth the effort desu

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 00:07:54 UTC No. 16149236

>>16149234
GPS repair missions, stealing enemy GEO sats.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 00:16:55 UTC No. 16149248

>>16149205
the before-the-end-of-the-decade line ended up being more curse than blessing in the long run. they had to drop all sorts of useful stuff for the sake of time - booster recovery, EOR, cryopropellant service modules, mission modules - all stuff that was assumed to be necessary developments before gagarin. if they'd let the first landing be pushed back into the 1970s we could've done it with partially-reusable saturn c3s and the moon program could've continued indefinitely.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 00:27:49 UTC No. 16149269

>>16149175
Expended booster too. Rare

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 00:44:42 UTC No. 16149292

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpBfhXG8RXc
I live in the center of europe, i can take a shit in paris&london&berlin in a hour if i want to.
But somehow i cant watch this bitch livestream without buffering out of japan.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 00:47:23 UTC No. 16149294

>>16149292
Japan is over an hour away

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 00:48:58 UTC No. 16149295

>>16149292
>i can take a shit in paris&london&berlin in a hour
This is so delusional.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 00:51:31 UTC No. 16149300

>>16149295
maybe he flies in a v2

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 00:55:12 UTC No. 16149304

>>16149295
By air he can for paris and berlin if he lives in central europe, london would be a stretch.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 00:58:52 UTC No. 16149308

>>16149269
They've got to be doing a direct injection into the Galileo's 23,600 km orbit. The last Galileo satellites went up singly on Soyuz-2-1bs with a Fregat to handle circularization. Normally a maneuver like that would be the payload's job, but if they can't handle that it's not surprising there's no reserve left in the Falcon for landing. This probably explains the grey extended mission paint on the S2 too.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:00:15 UTC No. 16149310

>>16149304
maybe he's convinced that the netherlands are the center of europe

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:01:26 UTC No. 16149313

there's nothing classified about galileo itself, right? so this is just another starshield ridealong?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:04:07 UTC No. 16149315

>>16149310
No, berlin and paris airports are inside of the city, london airports are outside of it.
So you can fly from most euro airports to these cities and take a "shit" int them, but with london you still need to take the train or bus in to london.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:05:21 UTC No. 16149316

>>16149315
what if you have a private plane? can you shit out the door while flying over london?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:08:56 UTC No. 16149320

>>16149316
Sure, london streets are already full of shit, nobody will notice the difference.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:18:37 UTC No. 16149330

>>16148557
>When NASA leased pad A to SpaceX in 2014, the terms of the lease included a requirement that the rubber room, among other historic portions of the pad, be preserved as historical artifacts.[10]
Huh.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:22:45 UTC No. 16149337

>>16147672
use the principia mod

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:25:13 UTC No. 16149339

>>16148086
looks like a nominal stage sep to me

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:29:58 UTC No. 16149343

>>16148093
reentry

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:31:28 UTC No. 16149344

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1784382036096242138

40 flight certifications each boosters!!!!

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:34:40 UTC No. 16149346

>>16148473
eww is that mold on the bottom of her right foot?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:35:25 UTC No. 16149348

>>16149344
I kneel. 40 reuses. New Glenn could never…

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:35:41 UTC No. 16149349

>>16149346
No, that's just what white people look like, ranjeet.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:35:53 UTC No. 16149350

>>16149346
no, it's a hallucination from an AI

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:36:39 UTC No. 16149351

>>16149348
Bezos would be dead by the time NG reuses hits double digits.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:37:32 UTC No. 16149352

>>16148557
https://www.spacesafetymagazine.com/spaceflight/launch/launch-pad-39a-safety-system/ neat

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:45:32 UTC No. 16149358

BREAKING: SpaceX loses yet another booster as it burns up in the atmosphere after losing all power and control! Reusability is a pointless endeavor.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:49:30 UTC No. 16149362

>>16149351
>double
**single digits.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:51:02 UTC No. 16149364

hold the fort, Mick Jagger is attempting to manually dock Orion to Starship

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:53:08 UTC No. 16149365

>>16149364
he’s docking to david bowie’s tin can lmfao

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:57:43 UTC No. 16149368

>>16149358
Elon Musk and SpaceX confirmed for fraud

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 02:07:51 UTC No. 16149370

>>16149364
is this sum top gear m8?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 02:15:32 UTC No. 16149374

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/pia26293-looking-into-ios-loki-patera-artists-concept
>The large island in Loki Patera does not have a name

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 02:21:24 UTC No. 16149380

>Venus Colorized Clouds
>This colorized picture of Venus was taken Feb. 14, 1990, from a distance of almost 1.7 million miles, about 6 days after NASA's Galileo made it closest approach to the planet.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 02:23:41 UTC No. 16149382

>>16149362
***bezos died

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 02:26:08 UTC No. 16149384

>>16149380
I fucking love basedence, sisters

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 02:27:14 UTC No. 16149385

>>16149374
why does Io get giant liquid lava lakes, but these are absent on Venus?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 02:28:22 UTC No. 16149387

>>16149385
Venus doesn't have a source of massive tidal heating to keep it volcanic at a planetary scale.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 02:29:04 UTC No. 16149388

>>16149380
Martian sand

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 02:30:21 UTC No. 16149390

>>16149385
Venus is [probably] tectonically dead
Io is small and happens to be orbiting a unit of a planet that, I guess, stretches and squeezes it quite a bit

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 02:32:14 UTC No. 16149391

venus is volcanically alive, we’ve just haven’t been collecting data on it

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 02:53:15 UTC No. 16149407

>>16148996
>Federal Space Transportation Agency
we're moving up in the world

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 02:54:47 UTC No. 16149410

>Spaceflight regulation will be controlled by politicised admin appointments now
>direction will change every 4-8 years
>this is a good thing

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 02:56:27 UTC No. 16149412

>rejected by firefly
its over. its walmart or suicide for me.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 02:56:30 UTC No. 16149413

>>16148887
>Kills the most humans in spaceflight history
>I swear guys it was good. The haters are all baseless nitpickers
Fuck off Nixon.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 02:56:59 UTC No. 16149414

>>16149412
You come work for me now

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 02:58:51 UTC No. 16149416

>>16149412
https://spacecrew.com/space-companies
>Search 108+ leading space industry companies hiring on Space Crew, from around the world

You've still got some options

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 02:59:52 UTC No. 16149417

>>16149407
now astronauts will get probed by blueshirts instead of aliens

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 03:10:15 UTC No. 16149421

>>16149315
>you still need to take the train or bus into London
LCY bro?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_City_Airport

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 03:14:39 UTC No. 16149424

>>16149412
Reapply. With companies, no doesnt mean no forever. Keep applying and broaden your skill set at other companies to makd yourself more valuable

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 03:37:06 UTC No. 16149440

How standardized are spaceship dock ports?
Are we stuck with the ISS one?
Will the Artemis moon mission have a new design?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 03:41:30 UTC No. 16149445

>>16149412
Re-apply, I got rejected from my last job 4 times

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 03:44:23 UTC No. 16149451

>>16149445
Kek I heard some fag on twitter got rejected 20 times by SpaceX before he got in to work in Starbase.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 03:44:45 UTC No. 16149452

>>16149440
The ISS one is the standard because it works and everyone uses it.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 03:50:41 UTC No. 16149459

>>16149451
>"LET ME IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNN"

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 03:51:54 UTC No. 16149461

>>16149459
Tbf to him I will probably do the exact same thing when Im out of college.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 04:02:07 UTC No. 16149473

>>16149440
There's the International Docking System Standard which is pretty much what it sounds like. Dragon and Starliner both use it, and so does everyone else in the west that wants to have something dock actively. For things like Cygnus and Dream Chaser there's the Common Berthing Mechanism, but that's got a lot more limitations in its use. Russia uses SSVP system (System for docking and internal transfer) on Soyuz and Progress, but it's a bit on the narrow side so Orel is planned to use a slightly wider version on ROS. China uses a version (described as "a clone") of the old APAS-95 system that the Shuttle used to dock to Mir back in the 90s, and it may or may not be comparable with modern IDSS ports. They've all got the same 31" diameter and the IDSS was developed directly from APAS-95 designs.

Going forward it looks like they're going to just keep using IDSS because "it's the standard" and it works well enough for everyone. Gateway and Orion are being built with IDSS so even if someone else had a better idea it'd have a hard time finding a role where it's accepted.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 04:07:11 UTC No. 16149477

>>16149473
Starship Station variants will likely not use this because they would literally only be docking with other Starships btw. Also I'm not sure how well this standard will keep up with commercial space stations, espcially considering that some of them WILL be rotating which will add a factor that IDSS wasnt designed in mind with.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 04:08:24 UTC No. 16149478

>>16149440
>>16149452
The ISS has seven different types of docking port types around the station
Everyone except the Chinese and Russians are going to use International Docking System Standard in the future

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 04:10:06 UTC No. 16149480

>>16149478
Even India?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 04:11:06 UTC No. 16149481

>>16149477
Where would a docking port on Starship be located? You can't do pic related on the normal one because there's a header tank in the way.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 04:12:41 UTC No. 16149482

>>16149480
yes

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 04:22:29 UTC No. 16149488

>>16149480
How else will they get into the ISS dedicated shitting module?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 04:37:26 UTC No. 16149499

>>16149481
dorsal, shuttle style

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 05:39:20 UTC No. 16149516

What is he thinking right now?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 05:41:30 UTC No. 16149517

>>16149516
>well fugg :DDDDDDDDDD

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 05:49:10 UTC No. 16149519

>>16149516
that if he'd had control over his own company's finances ULA would've been the first to master orbital refueling and they'd still be competitive

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 06:28:01 UTC No. 16149537

>>16149516
>we're fucked
>i'll have to ride this company all the way to the bottom
>hopefully i'm dead by then

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 06:37:37 UTC No. 16149543

>>16149516
bezos buying his company isnt it?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 06:41:57 UTC No. 16149546

>>16149516
>I love when rogget expend!

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 06:53:48 UTC No. 16149562

>>16149546
the 30 launch old booster
>im gonna booooost
>im gonna reyooooooose

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 07:09:53 UTC No. 16149572

https://twitter.com/C_Bass3d/status/1784220959689372069

Why does this flag trigger people?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 07:18:40 UTC No. 16149580

>>16149572
you put af as the filename like we wouldnt notice. gtfo groyper /pol/ retard.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 07:22:51 UTC No. 16149582

>>16149516
Howdy partner!

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 07:29:29 UTC No. 16149585

>>16148996
I knew this was going to happen (FAA is extremely crusty and rude) simply because launch and re-entry permitting were going to swallow the FAA alive

Leave it to a politician to do the thing because it is a step up in his career

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 07:31:26 UTC No. 16149587

>>16149516
>I had my marketing team come up with some insane nonsense about how many times Spacex would have to reuse a booster for it to be economical, and they surpassed even that

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 07:32:02 UTC No. 16149589

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA006oFAf_8

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 07:32:53 UTC No. 16149590

>>16149585
What point are you making?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 08:07:46 UTC No. 16149602

>>16149481

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 08:10:08 UTC No. 16149603

>>16149452
>The ISS one is the standard because it works and everyone uses it.

In the scheme of a mission a few hours to open the door doesn't matter but do they really have to be that slow?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 08:18:23 UTC No. 16149605

>>16149603
I'm pretty sure they don't, it's just paranoia since the ISS is completely irreplaceable if something goes wrong.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 08:46:46 UTC No. 16149620

>>16149572
>>16149580
What?

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 08:54:41 UTC No. 16149622

>>16149603
Airlock cycling times really depend on the size of your vaccuum pump and how much atmosphere you are willing to lose. I'm sure the ISS has some shitty tiny pump that cost 999999999 dollars built by Raytheon and they can't afford to lose any atmosphere at all. Cycle times could absolutely be sped up a lot with heavier duty pumps and a willingness to lose a few grams of atmosphere.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 09:09:39 UTC No. 16149626

>>16149620
Mentally ill individual who forgot to take their daily medication is seeing hidden messages in the filenames.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 10:04:00 UTC No. 16149649

>>16149516
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1784398108966941093

lol

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 10:56:19 UTC No. 16149700

>>16149589
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA006oFAf_8
ula btfo again

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 11:15:14 UTC No. 16149717

>>16149700
96& of ULAs missions between 2000-2009 could have been launched with Falcon 9
only 3 launches out of 116 launches in total would need another rocket (Falcon Heavy for example)

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 11:50:07 UTC No. 16149753

Shocking news out of NASA today: FH CAN'T launch Gateway (because of structural reasons it can't even lift 20t to LEO)
What a joke!

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 11:51:47 UTC No. 16149756

>>16148644
Some of Saturn

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 11:55:11 UTC No. 16149761

>>16148769
https://twitter.com/Harry__Stranger/status/1784206019654189435

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 11:57:53 UTC No. 16149764

>>16149761
https://twitter.com/Harry__Stranger/status/1784206027107492057

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 12:00:19 UTC No. 16149767

>>16149589
good video, and nice voice

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 12:03:05 UTC No. 16149771

>>16149764

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 12:11:44 UTC No. 16149784

>>16149753
adding some thicker stringers is just beyond SpaceX capabilities

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 12:13:17 UTC No. 16149786

>>16149784
it's absolutely not a surprise to anyone in the industry why the NRO has never selected SpaceX to launch its KH-11s, even though it should technically be within F9's capabilities

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 12:26:52 UTC No. 16149802

>>16149786
or those selections were made such a long time ago that FH didn't exist at that point

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 12:28:11 UTC No. 16149804

>>16149753
So? NASA can just use their own rocket to launch it.
Oh wait.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 12:36:16 UTC No. 16149812

There's something so unscientific about the idea that the Gondwana supercontinent existed but I can't pin it down.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 13:08:10 UTC No. 16149839

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 13:11:10 UTC No. 16149842

>>16149812
Mars used to have one super big continent too though. One half of the planet was ocean the other water.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 13:17:54 UTC No. 16149845

>>16149390
Don't forget the other moons like Europa who rip and tear the insides of Io. Orbital resonance and the like.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 13:23:45 UTC No. 16149849

>>16149390
the 3 new Venus missions will confirm or reject this hypothesis.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 13:27:14 UTC No. 16149851

>>16149812
>>16149842
What a dumb way to arrange your world's surface, you just wind up with big lame deserts and horizon-to-horizon oceans.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 13:32:49 UTC No. 16149855

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1784462071205159144

You can smell the EU seething about SpaceX. Reminds me of the first year of Biden admin days

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 13:34:50 UTC No. 16149857

>>16149855
yeah everybody is seething pretty much
ULA, the EU, Rocketlab

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 13:35:55 UTC No. 16149859

>>16149851
Agree. But what I'm trying to say is it's kinda weird how it used to be just one big continent that decided to spread out. From a cosmological principle perspective it seems unlikely. Mars also used to be like that back when it had water. See pic related

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 13:36:57 UTC No. 16149860

>>16149855
>Reminds me of the first year of Biden admin days
why

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 13:43:17 UTC No. 16149871

>>16149860
You might be new here but few years ago, the incoming Biden's NASA admin couldn't say the word "SpaceX" for a full year or so.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 13:50:05 UTC No. 16149882

>>16147683
>nailed
The vibrations nailed the payload too.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 13:51:15 UTC No. 16149883

What's the FH issue everyone's dooming about. I remember 2 years ago we were saying how FH could completely replace SLS.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 14:00:44 UTC No. 16149900

Staging successful
>>16149899
>>16149899

>>16149899
>>16149899

>>16149899
>>16149899

>>16149899
>>16149899

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 14:25:19 UTC No. 16149936

>>16149855
He can't keep getting away with this!

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 14:49:30 UTC No. 16149965

>>16148636
It amazes me that so many allegedly "educated" people have fallen so quickly and so hard for a fraudulent fabrication of such laughable proportions. The very idea that a gigantic ball of rock happens to orbit our planet, showing itself in neat, four-week cycles -- with the same side facing us all the time -- is ludicrous. Furthermore, it is an insult to common sense and a damnable affront to intellectual honesty and integrity. That people actually believe it is evidence that the liberals have wrested the last vestiges of control of our public school system from decent, God-fearing Americans (as if any further evidence was needed! Daddy's Roommate? God Almighty!)
Documentaries such as Enemy of the State have accurately portrayed the elaborate, byzantine network of surveillance satellites that the liberals have sent into space to spy on law-abiding Americans. Equipped with technology developed by Handgun Control, Inc., these satellites have the ability to detect firearms from hundreds of kilometers up. That's right, neighbors .. the next time you're out in the backyard exercising your Second Amendment rights, the liberals will see it! These satellites are sensitive enough to tell the difference between a Colt .45 and a .38 Special! And when they detect you with a firearm, their computers cross-reference the address to figure out your name, and then an enormous database housed at Berkeley is updated with information about you.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 14:51:18 UTC No. 16149966

>>16148657
He says you have to go back. He's going to build a wall and he's going to make you pay for it. Furthermore he claims that somebody's doing the raping.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 15:04:52 UTC No. 16149988

>>16149410
bottom jej
look at how often sleepy joe's handlers changed the head of the FAA
then look at the skin tones and early life section, and check out how many were literally in bed with Democrat politicians

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 16:08:45 UTC No. 16150076

>>16149481
Just EVA.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 16:22:50 UTC No. 16150100

It matters whether your leaders care about space

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 18:00:31 UTC No. 16150204

>>16149313
Galileo has nothing to do with starshield/starlink. It's just the euro version of a GPS sat. That said, GPS sats still contain classified tech, so Galileo might too.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 Apr 2024 21:52:53 UTC No. 16150551

>>16148996
Fucking finally.