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Anonymous No. 16168037

Twum edition

previous >>16165415

Anonymous No. 16168046

>>16168037
>staging at page 10
>shitty meme edition
>shitty meme pic
OP is a fag

Anonymous No. 16168050

>>16168046
*9

Anonymous No. 16168052

its over, back to hunter gathering

Anonymous No. 16168054

create an artificial tundra on mars so we can hunter gather there

Anonymous No. 16168055

>>16168046
it follows the guidelines

Anonymous No. 16168058

>>16168055
this, ppl only get upset about the twum meme because they don't look like scientists and they're envious of those who do

Anonymous No. 16168061

>>16168033
Asiatics hunted them too but there were mammoths all over Europe (and the Eurasian steppe was mostly not Asiatic until recently but that's another matter)

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Anonymous No. 16168065

>>16168052
>me and my bro's in 2025

Anonymous No. 16168067

>>16168061
I think he's implying that the european hunter gatherers that hunted mammoths were mostly wiped out later on and bear little relation to white europeans.
(stoneage type builders were wiped out by mound culture celtic/germanics)

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Anonymous No. 16168074

>>16168037
What nebula is that? Or is it some other stellar object. Also what does Twum mean

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Anonymous No. 16168077

>>16168052
>>16168065
the NOAA agrees with you.

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Anonymous No. 16168079

>>16168077
So how fucked are we on a scale of 1 to 10

Anonymous No. 16168081

>>16168077
The sun, that dirty slut, squirting all over us.

Anonymous No. 16168083

>>16168072
>>16168078
boca chica village? more like boca chica corporate town. yall got any scrip?

Anonymous No. 16168085

>>16168079
About three fiddy.
[spoiler]If it's real, it's too late anyway. [/spoiler]

Anonymous No. 16168086

>>16168085
How many times do I have to tell you that spoilers don't work here???

Anonymous No. 16168087

>>16168085
>If it's real
isreal

Anonymous No. 16168088

>>16168086
Why?

Anonymous No. 16168090

>>16168088
Ask the mods, I don't know. Maybe they don't think we deserve it.

Anonymous No. 16168092

It's real. I'm packing up and going underground

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Anonymous No. 16168094

>>16168092
>>16168079
>>16168081
>>16168077
don't worry, if it hits at night, it'll be the plebs other side of the earth that get it. This is the sun's version of russian roulette

Anonymous No. 16168096

>>16168094
hopefully it vaporizes china

Anonymous No. 16168097

>>16168055
there's literally only one rule and it's "don't stage before page 10" all of this other horseshit you've made up is fake as fuck

Anonymous No. 16168100

>>16168094
fuck S&W

Anonymous No. 16168112

>>16168097
nah
go on, make a retarded thread again and see how it goes

Anonymous No. 16168115

>>16168112
please be less of a niggerfaggot

Anonymous No. 16168119

>>16168112
please be niggerfaggotier

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Anonymous No. 16168125

There are going to be some seriously beautiful aurora in the next few days. In two days you might see them in Texas. I wonder how that looks from the iss.

Anonymous No. 16168126

>>16168125
OH GOOOOOOOOD

Anonymous No. 16168135

are you guys ready for solar-quarantines? you have to stay indoors and disconnect all of your electrical devices, hey hey no cheating bin that phone!

everyone is doing their part to reduce the strain on the grid. why aren't you wearing your eye-mask anon do you want permanent UV damage?

Anonymous No. 16168137

>>16168135
kek

Anonymous No. 16168139

ive been crying. can someone convince me otherwise than 'its over'?

Anonymous No. 16168142

>>16168139
https://spaceweather.com/
>Don't worry, though. The four CMEs currently en route to Earth--even combined--are probably no match for the monster CME of 1859. The Carrington Event won't happen again this weekend.

X2 flare rn, Carrington event was X45

Anonymous No. 16168145

>>16168142
: )

Anonymous No. 16168146

5 year lockdown coming

Anonymous No. 16168147

>>16168142
oh, it's just an X2? why the fuck are people worried

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Anonymous No. 16168149

>>16168147
Cause its a G4 X2

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Anonymous No. 16168150

>>16168149

Anonymous No. 16168154

so what happens if an X45 G5 hits Mars, which has literally zero magnetic field?

Anonymous No. 16168155

>>16168154
Mars is further away, inverse square cube law or whatever.

Anonymous No. 16168159

>>16168155
doesn't matter, its barely further than Earth, and has zero magnetic field to speak of

Anonymous No. 16168161

>>16168147
it's 5 x2's in a row, they will overload the magnetosphere as they arrive within 1 minute of each other.

Anonymous No. 16168166

>>16168161
no they combine as a large X2 maybe X5 CME

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Anonymous No. 16168169

"Oh, how awful. Did he at least die painlessly? To shreds, you say."

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Anonymous No. 16168170

"Well, how is his wife holding up? To shreds, you say."

Anonymous No. 16168175

>>16168159
>barely
Anon, I...

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Anonymous No. 16168181

>>16168159
the lack of magnetic field is an advantage; CMEs fuck up tech because the solar protons slam into the magnetosphere and induce current flows on Earth. On Mars they go directly into the atmosphere and surface and there are no currents induced

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Anonymous No. 16168182

>>16168037
YAY WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE.
But only if you post "PRAISE THE SUN" in this thread.

Anonymous No. 16168187

>>16168112
Hey anon, Im assuming youre OP. This is usuallt why I include screenshots of page 10 on the previous /sfg/ whenever I stage. I suggest you adopt this practice so useless drama that has no basis that you just had to reply to on this doesnt happen in the future. Its worked really well for me personally and though it is extra effort it is still pretty good insurance for avoiding these situations. Best regards my friend.

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Anonymous No. 16168188

>The solar storms of August 1972 were a historically powerful series of solar storms with intense to extreme solar flare, solar particle event, and geomagnetic storm components in early August 1972, during solar cycle 20. The storm caused widespread electric‐ and communication‐grid disturbances through large portions of North America as well as satellite disruptions. On 4 August 1972 the storm caused the accidental detonation of numerous U.S. naval mines near Haiphong, North Vietnam.[1] The coronal mass ejection (CME)'s transit time from the Sun to the Earth is the fastest ever recorded.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_1972_solar_storms

Anonymous No. 16168189

>>16168079
You might get an interesting light show.
And your PC might bug.

It's nothing dramatic, but it will be actually annoying to electrical components, wifi in particular.
X flares and CMEs regularly cause bugs on machines on my network and power supplies because something's up with the power circuits in my house and potentially around my house (thinking solar panels and lack of care with making sure solar impacts to panels doesn't perturb/surge the grid).
But that's about it.

I have a substation near me and they regularly go "bang" during these events, but nothing more. I think the bigger cause its not even Xrays,etc. It's just solar power being on every home nowadays (it's like 30% of our state's power supply according to recent figures).

Anonymous No. 16168190

>>16168188
Imagone if Apollo was still continuing lol. Wewould have got some astronauts coming back glowing in the dark.

Anonymous No. 16168191

>>16168189
Idk anon, G5 is the highest the scale goes, and that's what the NOAA is predicting

Anonymous No. 16168194

>>16168187
not OP, haven't made a thread in months

Anonymous No. 16168195

Do I look outside my window or not?

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Anonymous No. 16168196

>>16168190
If Apollo 16 had been delayed just a little ...

Anonymous No. 16168197

>>16168195
Yeah, it might be pretty.

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Anonymous No. 16168201

>>16168142
>Carrington event was X45
Nah it was way more, the Halloween 2003 storm was around X40ish and it wasn't even close.

This CME could be the largest we've had since 2005 (we already had 3G at that stage btw for those paranoid) but that's about it. It's not terribly big because cycle 25 is much weaker than cycles 23 and before.
BUT, Stereo is all fucked up so maybe results could be off?

The fuck are our politicians doing btw. You just connected us all up to solar panels and then neglected our solar monitor satellites. Kinda dumb.

Anonymous No. 16168202

>>16168191
Oops, I'm tarded. It's G4

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Anonymous No. 16168203

https://twitter.com/Harry__Stranger/status/1788704824835645746
>ablspacesystems RS1 rocket appears to be back at the launch pad in Kodiak.

Anonymous No. 16168204

>>16168203
>abort before launch reappears
why are they so secretive?

Anonymous No. 16168206

>>16168201
>Stereo is all fucked up so maybe results could be off?

Wdym, Stereo is borked?

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Anonymous No. 16168207

>>16168188
I do worry about electrical grids in SEA, India and Africa, especially South Africa because it has nuclear plants that I've literally seen records of due to a previous job.
It ain't flash at all.

Also these will cause bushfires in Australia. Don't ask me how I know, "it's confidential" and definitely doesn't involve dodgy insulators on powerlines that the nuclear facility in South Africa did the testing for.
Also, hi western power. You're a fucking disgrace and your incompetence has cost WA billions in court fees. You dumb motherfuckers.

I've already seen these storms spark these things on https://www.emergency.wa.gov.au/# btw.
And I know better than anybody here how bad things really are.

Anonymous No. 16168211

>>16168206
Wasn't one of the sats cooked?

Anonymous No. 16168213

>>16168207
But I will add, these storms do sweet fuck all but annoyances to grids normally (if they are construed correctly, which my state's isn't kek).
Also not the government's fault either, it's purely the electrical provider's incompetence and the government seriously should investigate the problems with our grids. We shouldn't be having blackouts in the era of solar panels. There's ZERO excuse for that shit.

Anonymous No. 16168216

>>16168213
>In the era of solar panels
If you actually knew anything you'd know that solar contributes sweet-fuck-all to improve grid reliability and fundamentally makes things worse. Literally the only thing they're good at is making batteries necessary to stabilize the grid load, which they are pretty good at.

Anonymous No. 16168221

>>16168216
>you'd know that solar contributes sweet-fuck-all to improve grid reliability
Well I was assuming that we had begun to modify our grid to compensate for the solar power flux.
Clearly that is not the case though. Which baffles me. Here you are with a political opportunity to finally properly stabilise and harden the grid to compensate for solar and nothing was done.

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Anonymous No. 16168222

Why didnt spacex do this?

Anonymous No. 16168224

>>16168222
Impractical in ways I do not understand.

Anonymous No. 16168225

>>16168222
It's a nice drop in replacement for SLS/Orion, but that also means that the only group interested in that class of mission would never be interested in it.

Anonymous No. 16168226

>>16168221
Oh and this is after some local electrical grid debacle with insulators on power lines.
I will admit I didn't see anything to convince me had done anything to compensate for solar, but this was a few years ago now, just when solar power was really starting to swing around here.
I did hear something about batteries, but I don't think batteries are enough.

Anonymous No. 16168227

>>16168222
by the time fh was developed, they'd already moved on to Starship. resources necessary to move the dragon to falcon heavy isn't a wise decision as it has no real practical use that f9 crew doesnt

Anonymous No. 16168237

>spacex found a way to block russians from using starlink
that was fast

Anonymous No. 16168243

>>16168222
no reason to since starship was their plan. Falcon 9 is good enough for leo

Anonymous No. 16168252

>>16168237
How?

Anonymous No. 16168255

>>16168170

Comment from the NSSF forum:

> I worry that Avcoat can’t reliably support the size of reentry shield that Orion requires. Avcoat was a solution for a monolithic Apollo-sized heat shield. When upsized for an Orion-sized heat shield, monolithic Avcoat cracked.

> So Orion turned to a tiled heat shield, but one still made from Avcoat. But Avcoat was a monolithic solution for Apollo, not a tiled one. The deep cratering/pitting they’re seeing at the tile junctions and boundaries may be unavoidable with Avcoat, regardless of the reentry profile.If that turns out to be the case, then Orion is back to square one for its heat shield with all the attendant costs and delays (or the program is terminated).

Anonymous No. 16168256

>>16168237
Ummm source?

Anonymous No. 16168258

>>16168252
>>16168256
its just a blurb behind a paywall, so i dont know the how
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-05-09/russia-starlink-access-blocked-by-pentagon-spacex-ukraine

Anonymous No. 16168260

>>16168258
>Plumb declined to elaborate on what tactics, techniques or procedures are being used to stem Russia’s use of the highly portable communications terminals that connect to SpaceX’s fleet of low-orbiting satellites. Ukrainian government officials had no immediate comment.

Anonymous No. 16168261

>>16168260
oooh

Anonymous No. 16168267

>>16168260
>trust us, bro
>no

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Anonymous No. 16168278

>>16168255
>tiles kill another vehicle
well, that would be a bad omen.

Anonymous No. 16168281

>>16168274
Even bigger on may 11.

Anonymous No. 16168282

>>16168258
https://archive.is/20240509173122/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-05-09/russia-starlink-access-blocked-by-pentagon-spacex-ukraine

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Anonymous No. 16168290

>>16168274
https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/communities/aurora-dashboard-experimental

Anonymous No. 16168291

Youd think the /k/ommandos would take this chance to ontopic seethe at Russia

Anonymous No. 16168299

Couple questions
Will australia get to see an aurora?
How fucked are we?
>>16168291
I hope aus sends more cardboard drones
Love those things. Imagine getting killed by some recycled cardboard kek

Anonymous No. 16168304

>In February of 2022, SpaceX, the space-exploration company co-founded by Elon Musk, launched forty-nine new satellites as part of its Starlink system, which aims to provide sky-based Internet access to paying customers anywhere on Earth. The company knew that a storm had started just before the launch date, but it was a mild one—a G2, the second-lowest category on NOAA’s geomagnetic storm scale—and internal modelling suggested that the satellites would be fine. One day after launch, thirty-eight of them lost orbit and suffered catastrophic failure.

lol, this is probably why SpaceX are standing down Starlink for next few days

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Anonymous No. 16168305

>>16168299
no aurora for you

Anonymous No. 16168308

>>16168305
>no aurora for you
Does this mean we are also going to not get hit as hard?

Anonymous No. 16168310

>>16168304
space weather doesnt matter, until it does

it reminds of that story where the military commander got angry that the space weather report got dropped from the daily briefing because the youngfags thought it wasnt important

Anonymous No. 16168311

>>16168310
Hope they brought it back cause its gonna be needed for the next few days

Anonymous No. 16168312

>>16168308
the northern hemisphere is tilting towards the sun and the southern away, so yeah, the southern hemisphere wont get hit as hard

Anonymous No. 16168315

>in June 2013, a joint venture from researchers at Lloyd's of London and Atmospheric and Environmental Research (AER) in the US used data from the Carrington Event to estimate the cost of a similar event in the present to the US alone at US$600 billion to $2.6 trillion (equivalent to $774 billion to $3.35 trillion in 2023[29]),[3] which, at the time, equated to roughly 3.6 to 15.5 percent of annual GDP.
we are soooo fucked

Anonymous No. 16168316

>>16168315
yeah but again its an X1-X2 class flares not Carringtons X45

Anonymous No. 16168323

>>16168315
>A study commissioned by the federal government and summarized in the report found that a storm the size of the 1921 event would cause large regions of the grid to fail, with impacts that “would be of unprecedented scale and involve populations in excess of 130 million”—close to half of all Americans. The report estimated the cost of a storm like that as “$1 trillion to $2 trillion during the first year alone . . . with recovery times of four to ten years.”

Anonymous No. 16168324

>>16168316
>its an X1-X2 class flare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzybAS7zltE

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Anonymous No. 16168334

New Foxford space comic

Anonymous No. 16168340

>>16168334
Please stop reposting this. I think this is the 4th or 5th time its been posted here. Nobody cares about your /pol/ tendencies, dont bring them here. I would say this is 'spamming/flooding' personally at this point.

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Anonymous No. 16168354

if multicellular life exists outside of earth (it doesn't) it probably resembles some form of crab

Anonymous No. 16168356

is the jwst going to get fried?

Anonymous No. 16168360

>>16168356
it would be extremely energetic

Anonymous No. 16168361

>>16168360
>>16168360
>>16168360
>>16168360

Anonymous No. 16168362

>>16168360
it's a big telescope

Anonymous No. 16168364

>>16168362
4U

Anonymous No. 16168365

>just realized the fucking solar storm is likely to take out ACS3 solar sail cubesat
>before it even got to deploy

MOTHERFUCK

Anonymous No. 16168369

>>16168365
anon its going to take out like 90% of all sats
starlink is COOKED

Anonymous No. 16168373

>>16168369
>Less than one hour until Falcon 9’s launch of 20 @Starlink satellites from California

They have learned NOTHING

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Anonymous No. 16168383

Can't we just, I dunno, launch a couple hundred magnet satellites to tell solar storms to fuck off?

Anonymous No. 16168387

>>16168383
yeah
magnetic solar shade swarm would be a good idea
you got a few trillion spare?

Anonymous No. 16168388

>>16168383
man this is actually another good reason to develop the plasma magnet, solar storm protection/interception

Anonymous No. 16168389

>>16168383
You can make a bigger magnetic field that what a gorillion tonnes of spinning molten iron makes?

Anonymous No. 16168400

3d printed magnets

Anonymous No. 16168401

>>16168387
>>16168389
I thought there was some surprisingly cheap & efficient way to shield Mars from having solar wind rip off its atmosphere. We couldn't do something similar for Earth?

Anonymous No. 16168404

>>16168400
not enough buzzwords, where is the ai?

Anonymous No. 16168414

https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1788764234685329458
>SpaceX is pushing back the launch time of the Starlink 8-2 mission after it was scrubbed last night. The new T-0 liftoff time of the Falcon 9 rocket from Vandenberg Space Force Base is now 9:30 p.m. PDT (12:30 a.m. EDT, 0430 UTC).

Anonymous No. 16168418

>>16168354
Nah, it's nothing but machines-elf hybrids.
That's why they're so slutty.

Earth is a farm for their sexual purposes.

Anonymous No. 16168420

>>16168414
why even bother
they are going to lose all of them anyway

Anonymous No. 16168423

>>16168334
epic i like it

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Anonymous No. 16168433

>https://spacenews.com/starlink-soars-spacexs-satellite-internet-surprises-analysts-with-6-6-billion-revenue-projection/
>Projected 2024 revenue of 6.6 billion

Anonymous No. 16168464

>>16168433
damn, mars here we come

Anonymous No. 16168504

>>16168418
Is that all the anal probing is about?

Anonymous No. 16168510

>>16168404
Nano 3D printed carbon nanotube room temperature superconducting magnets designed with help of quantum AI technology, manufactured using renewable solar fusion energy and lasers

Anonymous No. 16168528

>>16168222
Something like 7g peak load and an inadequate capsule heatshield.

Anonymous No. 16168547

>>16168433
Major cashcow, whoever had the initial idea for Starlink is a financial genius.

Anonymous No. 16168565

>>16168433
It's a lot of revenue for sure but those launches every 2-3 days+operations+satellites (ongoing forever)+ground stations+employees+loicencing+taxes++++ all add up real fast. I'm sure it's printing money but it's definitely going to be nowhere near that figure in what they take away.

Anonymous No. 16168580

>>16168528
>Something like 7g peak load
Yee-haw!
>and an inadequate capsule heatshield.
Didn't stop Lockheed Martin.

Anonymous No. 16168615

>>16168356
It has a metal sunshield pointed toward the sun at all time so it will be perfectly protected.

Anonymous No. 16168617

This talk about a possible carrington event in the last thread is the perfect opportunity to say that even the thinnest metal enclosure will perfectly protect an electronic device such as a cell phone.

Anonymous No. 16168618

>>16168547
>whoever had the initial idea for Starlink is a financial genius.
someone who invented brilliant pebbles.

Anonymous No. 16168627

>>16168565
With the quoted price of a V2 sat from that article and the last known internal cost of a F9 launch, they'd be sitting at $4 billion (rounding to the nearest billion) in launch and hardware costs if you assume 100 dedicated Starlink launches in a year—a number they're on track to fall just short of in 2024. With ground hardware, salaries, etc., I'm assuming the margins aren't fantastic right now but the future's looking damn good.
From the article:
>To put that in perspective, the combined revenue of the two largest geostationary satellite operators, SES and Intelsat, which recently announced a merger, is around $4.1 billion
Starlink could dial back launches to constellation-maintenance-only, right now, and still be the top dog in satellite telecom. Their revenue wouldn't even stagnate—if speed tests are anything to go by, they're nowhere close to saturation and can easily support many more customers.

Anonymous No. 16168632

>>16168150
This image reminded me of something. Yesterday I was in my university, and the room I was in had a multi-layer window that somehow produced more than one image of the Sun, each dimmer than the last. The second fake image was dim enough to be looked at, and I think I saw a dark spot on it. I know that it wasn't some gunk on the window because I moved along with the fake Sun image if I moved my head. There were no spherical lights in that room, if that's what you are thinking.

Anonymous No. 16168634

>>16168052
Hunter-gatherer diet is better for us anyway. Maybe I can finally get my LDL level under control.

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>>16168632
that's actually amazing. discovering the sunspot yourself accidentally and then reading about it in sfg day later.

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Anonymous No. 16168643

>>16168077
Holy shit the schizos were right about the micronova

Anonymous No. 16168647

>>16168154
If Mars had a proper atmosphere it would lose quite a lot of it.

Anonymous No. 16168684

>>16168169
I will never forgive NASA if they kill Victor Glover.

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Anonymous No. 16168687

What did the sun mean by this? 1942?

Anonymous No. 16168689

>>16168255
Lmao
With rapid iterative testing they would have found this out a long time ago and could have pivoted, but with waterfall they are fucked

Anonymous No. 16168691

>>16168684
That'll be two decades more of delay, sir.
If anything, NASA should go back to the days of acceptable losses. They should naturally also get a rocket built that doesn't suck dicks.

Anonymous No. 16168695

>>16168255
>back to square one

That will be another 10 years+20 billion+tip. Seriously though, what a fucking joke. I hate all this oldspace faggotry so much it's unreal.

Anonymous No. 16168699

>>16168691
Okay fine. I will never forgive NASA if they kill Victor Glover on a low-reward high-risk mission because of design flaws that only exist thanks to their broken processes.

Anonymous No. 16168705

The heatshield comes off in chunks, so what? NASA is just worrying over nothing.

Anonymous No. 16168709

>>16168705
The heatshield wasn't designed for rectum linear halo orbits as they get too spicy for it.

Anonymous No. 16168714

>>16168705
I agree, they should send their finest black and Jewish Astronauts on it's inaugural flight.

Anonymous No. 16168715

>>16168340
"oy vey shut this down!"

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Anonymous No. 16168716

>>16168037
can this work?

its supposed to show a spacecraft standning still, accelarating two weights in a circular motion and then appruptly stop them to get linear momentum to move the craft

I'm pretty sure its against one or more laws of physics but I cant intuit which and why

Anonymous No. 16168726

>>16168716
Because you lose your acceleration gain spinning the wheels back up. Obviously

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Anonymous No. 16168734

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1788828194419736695
> What Earthlooks like in radio frequency from the @Starlink direct to phone satellites

Anonymous No. 16168741

>>16168734
What am I looking at? Radiosignal heat map no?

Anonymous No. 16168750

>>16168741
I guess, radio signal amplitude at certain frequency or something, land would reflect more and water would absord so it is darker (lower amplitude), cities are superbright due to amplitude there being high (they not only reflect but would be sources)

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Anonymous No. 16168751

>>16168687

Anonymous No. 16168753

>>16168751
What would happen if we took a bit of that brown stuff and brought it back to Earth?

Anonymous No. 16168757

>>16168716
>>16168726
It might work with enough solar panels and electric motors.

Anonymous No. 16168761

>>16168726
hm can you elaborate? what if, before spinning them back up I turn the spin axis of the weights to be in the direction of movement, and when they are spun up i turn them perpindecular to the movement direction again?

Anonymous No. 16168783

I think it's clear that if Starship works and reaches a massive cadence then it's only a matter of time until the government slaps HEAVY regulations on space travel 'to fight climate change' making that kind of cadence impossible

Anonymous No. 16168790

>>16168757
can you elaborate as well, what do you might work? you seem more sure than me, who asked the question

Anonymous No. 16168791

>>16168716
The impact when you stop then pushes back just as much on the axle of the wheel as it pushes forward on the bumper. Same as push pushing on the front of the cabin with your hands.

Anonymous No. 16168792

>>16168734
thats australia, not the whole earth

Anonymous No. 16168793

>>16168753
we would have some additional helium

Anonymous No. 16168794

>>16168791
oh that makes sense, damn i hoped i invented A infinite accelaration device right there

Anonymous No. 16168816

>>16168783
Not if musk finds a way to de hella carbon sequestration

Anonymous No. 16168822

>>16168753
It would be extremely painful.

Anonymous No. 16168823

>>16168794
If you package it right you can grift for years like the Woodward wiggle-drive

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Anonymous No. 16168826

> he's a covid truther/vaxtard
aaaand I'm out

đŸ—‘ïž Anonymous No. 16168828

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWJA_zH5Nvg

started listening to this
>dragon will go into high perigee (further than anybody has been since apollo missions) to test the effects of radiation on the avionics systems
>spacewalk will be conducted in lower orbit
>starlink laserlinks will be tested both above and below the orbit of starlinks as dragon will orbit both below and above them, the laserlinks are not the only or even the primary means of communication but just to conduct tests on the system

>Tim Q: How are you going to monitor the radiation when going into 1400km into the van allen belts?
>Anna: we are going to purposefully go there and do multiple experiments in that enviroment for example use the radiation there to do x-ray imagining (passively I guess)

Anonymous No. 16168830

>>16168826
trans folx need to teach him a lesson he will never forget.

But in all seriousness, I preferred it when he was above politics. If he's going to be making political takes, at least make them seldom so each one has more weight. Seems like unfortunately he didnt have the luxury of doing his redpill phase BEFORE becoming who he is today, if he did he would be more level headed

Anonymous No. 16168831

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWJA_zH5Nvg [Embed]
started listening to this

>dragon will go into high apogee (further than anybody has been since apollo missions) to test the effects of radiation on the avionics systems
>spacewalk will be conducted in lower orbit
>starlink laserlinks will be tested both above and below the orbit of starlinks as dragon will orbit both below and above them, the laserlinks are not the only or even the primary means of communication but just to conduct tests on the system

>Tim Q: How are you going to monitor the radiation when going into 1400km into the van allen belts?
>Anna: we are going to purposefully go there and do multiple experiments in that enviroment for example use the radiation there to do x-ray imagining (passively I guess)
>the does of radiation we anticipate receiving in the 5 days is about 2-3 months of being on ISS

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Anonymous No. 16168835

>>16168334
It just dawned on me that normies only know Elon as le funny Twitter man, not as the man that literally singlehandedly paradigm shifted multiple industries, arguably civilization itself.

Anonymous No. 16168839

>>16168835
You’re a 1 btw

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Anonymous No. 16168853

>>16168831
>jared: the vast majority of radiation exposure wont be at peak apogee of 1400km, but the first two orbits at 1200km go through the south atlantic anomaly, those two passes are pretty much the 2-3 months of ISS exposure
>Sarah: they will get to 1400km first which includes going through the SAA twice, do their experiments and then lower their orbit into 700km which will be their cruise orbit for the rest of their mission
>Sarah: to paint a picture about the spacewalk, we all start by getting suited up, pressurize all 4 crew members with 100% oxygen before depressurizing the spacecraft
>the preparation for this happens an hour after reaching orbit
>we are doing a really novel pre-breathe protocol, over the first 48h of our mission we are decreasing cabin pressure and increasing O2 concentration, that allows you to do a gradual removal of nitrogen from the tissues
>when you are at that 700km orbit, we are already at 48h into the flight, the difference between the cabin pressure and the suit pressure at that point will be much smaller
>for conventional Dragon missions we usually operate at standard atmospheric pressure, 14.1 PSI 21% oxygen
>for our mission, by the end we will be around 8.5 PSI and 32% oxygen, not sure about those exact precise numbers
>our suit when we start pressurizing we will go on 100% oxygen for a fixed duration before venting the spacecraft, we will not get 100% oxygen in the spacecraft

Anonymous No. 16168855

>>16168826
You won't be missed.

Anonymous No. 16168859

>>16168835
Seriously. When people hate on Musk it's almost 100% of the time because they don't like his Xeets, and they have no idea about his world changing actions. I've had people tell me again and again that SpaceX isn't special because 'someone else would have done it', and that he's just a figurehead. Of course, coming from zero actual knowledge of the topic, but they think that with strong conviction anyway.

Anonymous No. 16168862

>>16168853
>we are all going on this spacewalk
>dragon wasn't designed to do this on nominal conditions, so it has taken an immense amount of work from the spacex team
>have to add an nitrogern re-pressurisation system, have to ensure every material in the vehicle is compatible with vacuum and won't offgass in ways we arent planning for
>have to aid mobility aids so the pressurised suits can move safely and successfully
>we have been working with the SpaceX team for two years iteratively testing the suit design, the mobility aids

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Anonymous No. 16168869

>>16168826

Anonymous No. 16168871

>>16168862
>Dodd: what technical challenges has the higher pressure of 5.1 PSI brought? What was the tradeoff there? What was the technology that allowed that higher pressure?
>Jared: Gemini and Apollo were flying 100% oxygen cabin, they had already purged all of the nitrogen from their system before starting the EVA, in that case, sure, you would want lower pressure for better dexterity and mobility
>fortunately for our case, 50-60 years have transpired, we can compensate by not having 100% O2 enviroment by gradually depressurising and doing a long pre-breathe
>the development process for the suits has been exactly as you observe them do with the rockets, test something, learn from it, next week doing something entirely different
>you could leave on a friday and say, that suit seems okay and on monday there are two entirely new arms, a frankenstein suit, but the suit is so much better
>in fact a few months back in they stopped rolling in the new learnings into our training suits and just started rolling them into the flight suits
>first time we put on the flight suits it was a big step
>hopefully that gives some backround why we run the suits on higher pressure, its just really good for combatting DCS (decompression sickness) and they were able to do that but still break some new ground on mobility and dexterity

Anonymous No. 16168872

>>16168334
lol

Anonymous No. 16168873

>>16168826
bye faggot

Anonymous No. 16168877

can someone show me de wey XD

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Anonymous No. 16168880

>High velocity mass streams driven by light-sail windmills orbiting the Sun would circulate between two electromagnetic travelling wave accelerator tracks. Venus can have a 24h day in 30 years using 720 petaNewtons of force.
https://twitter.com/ToughSf/status/1788552265772458020

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Anonymous No. 16168882

>>16168871
>scott: I'll talk about the visor
>the visor itself is a copper coating to provide (like sunglasses) from harmful radiation, there is an ITO to retain the heat inside the suit, there is an anti-fog coating as well and its impact resistant
>its actually the only visor which is single layer compared to all the other spacesuits that have been developed
>visibility is great, one of the questions we have seen on X is, does the visor impact visibility inside the capsule vs outside (particularly with the sun)
>no it doesn't limit your visibility within the capsule
>when we sit on the seats it gives us full visibility
>really cool visor too

>Anna: SpaceX obviously started with the IVA suit, what do we need to change to make a spacewalk possible and at this point there is no part of the suit that has not been modified
>and I agree on the surface it looks really similar, under the hood its almost entirely different
>really there hasn't been anything that hasn't been re-visited from an architecture perspective
>when they started the process, they started look at manufacturing process
>how do we make a suit that is more manufacturable and how can we scale this later
>entry and exit is through a waist zipper that goes through the middle layers, most of the IVA suits have an in-seam zipper and that is your ingress and egress path, its now relocated into the middle of the suit
>there is a whole different patterning from the inside out from the restraint layer, for the structural layer of the suit, an entirely different architecture
>the joint development was a huge effort
>there is only space for one suit on the flight, you have to design a suit that is safe when they have restraints over their shoulder (when sitting on a seat), can't have hardpoints which would interfere with straps

đŸ—‘ïž Anonymous No. 16168883

>>16168880
Lets spin up earth so niggers fly off the face of the planet.

Anonymous No. 16168891

>>16168882
>Anna cont: SpaceX has developed these very cool shoulder joints that become soft when the suit is unpressurized, but become rigid under pressure, you still have the rotation and a number of different joint in your wrists and your shoulders and your upper arms
>integrated an entire thermal layer into the suit (due to the EVA)
>we have this pyron felt on the soles of the boots which is actually what we use on the dragon spacecraft
>there is all kinds of thermal protection that have been added to the suit, there are parts where there are over 15 layers, all this MLI that is stacked up, when you are in vacuum you have insulation layers that expand and give you thermal barrier
>redundancy throughout the suit such as redundant oxygen feed, the architecture of Dragon seats have changed to supply that to crew members in pairs
>we have redundant visor seals
>there are redundant check valves in the suits

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Anonymous No. 16168898

>>16168835
Love it that normies now think elon musk is some kind of white supremacist nazi while at first the left was all over him.

Anonymous No. 16168899

>>16168891
>Tim: The HUD is that read only? What kind of information is in there?
>Jared: right now it gives insight into suit and some system health in a color coded way, so pressure, O2 timers, relative humidity, temperature
>this was another example of leaving on friday and coming back on monday "we built a HUD"
>it looked super ugly the first time, they just wanted to see if it makes sense, like 3D printed, then you come back a week later and you are like "they made it look a lot nicer" and then two weeks late "allright its flight ready, amazing"
>its not hard to see where they want to go with this, this is an area where you could interface with augmented reality, vehicle checklist
>its plumbed into the avionics of the vehicle, the applications for it in the future are awesome and I like how it was just two SpaceX engineers and a pizza during a weekend and what they can get done
>our backround in aviation we have tried to put HUDs in and its like a three year project, SpaceX works on a little bit different timeline

Anonymous No. 16168903

>>16168734
What are these lines I'm looking at?

Anonymous No. 16168905

>>16168899
>Tim: What is the EVA timeline from hatch closing into hatch opening?
>Anna: the EVA operation itself will take about two hours, that includes the depressurization, time outside and re-pressurization
>there will be two people going outside, those will be Jared and Sarah and two people supporting them from inside, being their eyes and ears
>going out one by one
>we will be streaming the whole EVA
>there will be 3 main livestreams: the launch, the re-entry sequence and then the EVA

>Anna talking about St Jude, Jared says they have a starlink transmission they have put a lot of thought into, we think is a very important opportunity to send a message to the world

>Tim: Do we have a date or rough timeline?
>Jared: sometime the second half of June

tl:dr 5 more weeks until Polaris dawn, 3 livestreams (launch, EVA, re-entry)

Anonymous No. 16168906

>>16168903
stupid pedo.

Anonymous No. 16168907

>>16168903
satellite orbit paths I guess

Anonymous No. 16168910

>>16168905
‘preciate the summaries.
Yeah, this is interesting. SpaceX’s ability to whip stuff up quickly is fascinating (such as a few guys tinkering around and basically making the HUD system over a weekend).
And it seems like SpaceX’s is very serious about expanding their space suit in the future to make it Lunar/Mars capable eventually.

Anonymous No. 16168911

Damn Polaris Dawn is gonna be risky as fuck. Such a complex mission with rookies and pushing the timeline hard.

Anonymous No. 16168913

>>16168911
i have some major bets on IG index saying they will die.

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Anonymous No. 16168920

I didn't know about the Starlink launch so it caught me by surprise when earlier tonight I stepped outside for a cig and looked up to see the train passing directly overhead.

Anonymous No. 16168924

>>16168898
Oh hey it's the comic strip by that fag and his wife that wrote that hit-piece book against Mars.

Anonymous No. 16168925

>>16168903
Fuck off we're full

đŸ—‘ïž Anonymous No. 16168926

>>16168924
*that Jew

Anonymous No. 16168934

>>16168920
Lucky, I haven't caught a train like that in a few years now.

Anonymous No. 16168940

>>16168934
I didn't ask.

Anonymous No. 16168941

>>16168826
please seek medical help (medical assistance in dying)

Anonymous No. 16168945

>>16168934
Likewise, I hadn't seen one since 2020. I lit my cig, thought I saw a contrail out of the corner of my eyes, looked up and there it was straight above me.

Anonymous No. 16168949

>>16168883
based
this is the true power of terraforming

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Anonymous No. 16168951

>>16168940
Then shut up

Anonymous No. 16168952

>>16168793
surely you meant hydromeme

Anonymous No. 16168954

>>16168926
por que no los dos

Anonymous No. 16168957

How will Spaceguy5 spin it when Orion gets cancelled due to the heat shield?

Anonymous No. 16168958

>>16168952
earth already has enough meme atoms
the helium content is what's useful

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Anonymous No. 16168982

>>16168949
>>16168883
> no interplanetary White flight to spur us on away from brownoids
I get the sentiment but careful what you wish for

Anonymous No. 16168983

>>16168958
We need to pause all party balloon activities worldwide until we solve this problem.

Anonymous No. 16168986

>>16168983
party balloons just need to transition to being filled with hydrogen

Anonymous No. 16168993

>>16168986
these suffer from embrittlement

Anonymous No. 16168997

>>16168993
Also fire

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Anonymous No. 16169008

Zubrin's answer to everything is do the exact same thing but smaller. Are you scooterpilled /sfg/?

Anonymous No. 16169012

>>16168826
This is not spaceflight. Why do you keep posting this off topic bullshit. And why does /sfg/ keep replying to this /pol/ shit

Anonymous No. 16169015

>>16169008
This is not spaceflight as well. Stop with this

Anonymous No. 16169022

>>16168715
This is the most obvious /pol/ newfag response ever. Way to out yourself idiot. Go back

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Anonymous No. 16169023

>>16169015
Wrong, this xeet's author is famed aerospace & nuclear engineer Robert Zubrin, designer of the original shuttle-derived HLV and inventor of 3-way chess. His sentiment is directly analagous to his mini Starship proposal. As you are a newfag I wouldnt expect you to know that, so instead consider lurking more

Anonymous No. 16169026

>>16169023
Yes I know who he is you spam him every so often doesnt mean that posting his twitter opinions on politics or NON SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES is on topic.

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Anonymous No. 16169027

>>16169008
every new gas car should come with an electric moon bike

Anonymous No. 16169028

>>16169026
So you aren't scooterpilled?

Anonymous No. 16169031

>>16169027
Now THIS is on topic

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Anonymous No. 16169036

>>16169008
>>16169023
zubrin obv joking about biden/ev but its more funny cuz with tiny starship hes definitly not joking

Anonymous No. 16169037

>>16169027
That'd be a nightmare scenario in lunar gravity; it's really hard to keep a stable platform on the moon because the low gravity makes everything slow to happen but inertia is an independent constant.

Anonymous No. 16169039

>>16169031
that foto is doctored

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Anonymous No. 16169041

>Kuria Ushi x EarthCARE special collaboration will be held!
>The cloud aerosol emission mission "EarthCARE" satellite, developed in cooperation between Japan and Europe, will be launched in May. Therefore, in order to inform everyone about the launch of the "EarthCARE" satellite in a more understandable and fun way, we have decided to conduct a special collaboration with rocket idol Vtuber Kuria Usu.
https://www.satnavi.jaxa.jp/ja/news/2024/05/10/9199/index.html
https://www.satnavi.jaxa.jp/files/project/earthcare/earthcare_special/

Clear win

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Anonymous No. 16169046

>>16169037
braking is another problem

Anonymous No. 16169048

>>16169039
How do you know? To me it seems legitimate.
>>16169041
Can you confirm or deny the person in previous threads that said they 'sometimes wanted to be the little girl' is you or not. Please provide proof also that this is you via subscription to clear or (You) status etc.

Anonymous No. 16169052

>>16169041
My beautiful wife gets more beautiful each day passes

Anonymous No. 16169065

>>16169041
First japanese person to land on the moon will be Clear

Anonymous No. 16169066

>>16169027
Me listening to Steely Dan, ready to do the crater jump

Anonymous No. 16169067

>>16169023
>inventor of 3-way chess
Did he ever invent three way with his wife?

Anonymous No. 16169072

>>16169041
cute mission logo tbqh

Anonymous No. 16169073

>>16169048
nta but everyone wants to be the little girl

Anonymous No. 16169083

>>16168291
bro that was after my bedtime

Anonymous No. 16169096

>>16168753
It would be extremely hot

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Anonymous No. 16169098

What would the Earth's environment look like long-term if there was a permanent cloud deck creating global overcast weather conditions? Would plants and other life forms be able to survive?

Pic related is the weather outside right now, the forest is very green and lush after the rain though it is a bit cold.

Anonymous No. 16169102

Yeah so if you cancel your rocket family (Saturn) and your next vehicle has an even HIGHER $/kg (Shuttle) you’ve fucked up

Anonymous No. 16169105

>>16169098
Isn't this what happens after volcanic eruptions abd asteroid strikes?

Anonymous No. 16169110

>>16168709
They should do a couple shallower passes to aerobrake in from those speeds, works in KSP just bring a few extra sandwiches.

Anonymous No. 16169111

>>16169102
shuttle had a much lower $/astronaut launched than saturn. it was a much better deal than launching 2.333 capsules, a medium lift launcher, and an orbital construction yard on 5 separate rockets

Anonymous No. 16169115

>>16169110
As if there's delta v left in that anemic piece of shit to do any form of braking. It's direct or better pack a fuckload more sandwiches.

Anonymous No. 16169120

>>16169098
Earth's atmosphere was opaque before the great oxygenation event.

Anonymous No. 16169137

>>16168267
Yes, it's news from a war zone by an involved party. Always take such reports with an asteroid of salt.
Probably the only things they can really do is ban uplink units known to be in Russian hands or geofence units and hope your maps are up to date enough to not disable your own side's units.

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Anonymous No. 16169147

>>16168334

Anonymous No. 16169148

>>16168982
why didnt high altitude cities ever take off? it feels like a tech stack that we should be investing in.

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Anonymous No. 16169149

https://x.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1788946748808859858
Some Starbase news, Suborbital Pad B (which S30 just fired on) is being dismantled. Another mini update is that S29 got moved from HB to MB2 so seems like we're nearing full stack for the WDR

Anonymous No. 16169150

>>16168401
Wild guess that such systems only protect against the typical solar wind and not cases of explosive solar diarrhea. Mars would be subject to such storms though the additional distance could help some.

Anonymous No. 16169159

>>16169149
they're moving test firing to massey's. this was probably the last starship static fire that we'll see at boca chica.

Anonymous No. 16169161

>>16169149
>>16169159
what about suboribital hops?

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Anonymous No. 16169163

>>16169148
No good reason to do so on Earth.

Anonymous No. 16169164

>>16169161
suborbital hops will now be jumping from masseys over to the launch site

Anonymous No. 16169169

>>16169163
that was kind of what i was alluding to...if one day we want to build high altitude platforms on other planets like venus or the gas giants, then maybe we should've started already working on them here on earth

Anonymous No. 16169170

>>16169164
oh yeah theoretically Masseys can still be used for suborbital, or SSTO even (V3 maybe)

Anonymous No. 16169176

>>16169148
>why didnt high altitude cities ever take off?
We don't have a way to persistently generate so much lift.

Anonymous No. 16169177

>>16169163
Had no idea the US is THAT empty

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Anonymous No. 16169189

>>16169176
quantum levitation. we've had it since the 1890s

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Anonymous No. 16169191

>>16169111
>an orbital construction yard
I'll give you the other two but this is a stretch

Anonymous No. 16169194

>>16168647
kek, no

Anonymous No. 16169198

>>16169176
just add more hot air

Anonymous No. 16169204

>>16168401
that is targeted at stopping ye standard flux
this is megaflux
>>16169098
Overcast cloud conditions simply scatter light, they don't actually obscure that much. This is why photovoltaics still work on cloudy days, and the greatest advantage PV has over the big mirror setups

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Anonymous No. 16169219

And this firm is projecting net profits starting 2024. So, now.

Anonymous No. 16169225

>>16169219
Theyll only make more money over time as thirdies begin to make more money. Since infrastructure costs so much, Starlink could swallow up half the world population if they advertise in every language. The good will missions they do with giving free terminals to schools is also another good way to advertise, the thirdie children go home and tell their parents about it.

Anonymous No. 16169233

>>16169177
What, you never saw a picture of North America at night? The US never really expanded past the Mississippi for one giant reason: no water until you hit the PNW. In their hubris people settled in the Southwest and assumed their well water would last forever.

Anonymous No. 16169235

https://www.faa.gov/space/stakeholder_engagement/spacex_starship_ksc

Anonymous No. 16169236

>>16169233
>What, you never saw a picture of North America at night?
I did obviously but never saw population stats like this to really show it

Anonymous No. 16169242

>>16168826
Wait till this nigger learns about Von Braun and his political opinions.
Chuds take us to Mars, Bitch.

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Anonymous No. 16169244

>>16169176
false
>Geodesic spheres become stronger (and relative to the volume enclosed, lighter) as they become bigger, because of how they distribute stress over their surfaces. As a sphere gets bigger, the volume it encloses grows much faster than the mass of the enclosing structure itself. Fuller suggested that the mass of a mile-wide geodesic sphere would be negligible compared to the mass of the air trapped within it. He suggested that if the air inside such a sphere were heated even by one degree higher than the ambient temperature of its surroundings, the sphere could become airborne. He calculated that such a balloon could lift a considerable mass, and hence that 'mini-cities' or airborne towns of thousands of people could be built in this way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_Nine_(sphere)

Anonymous No. 16169245

>>16168826
>scamdemic

oh boy

Anonymous No. 16169246

>>16169244
>City tumbles sideways

Anonymous No. 16169247

>>16169244
wtf, never heard of this before that's really cool, can we lift spaceships this way too? Like a fully fueled Starship

Anonymous No. 16169254

>>16169120
>Earth's atmosphere was opaque before the great oxygenation event.
I thought it was only opaque when it was still made out of rock vapor during the Hadean eon?

Anonymous No. 16169255

>>16169235
>EIS needed for Starship at Pad 39a
Why?

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Anonymous No. 16169256

>>16169163
Reminder that the Alps are the most populated and developed mountain range

Anonymous No. 16169257

>>16169233
>In their hubris people settled in the Southwest and assumed their well water would last forever.
desalination plants?

Anonymous No. 16169258

>>16169255
Big changes

Anonymous No. 16169259

>>16169244
>floating balloon 1 mile wide
VS
>a tiny gust of wind

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Anonymous No. 16169260

>>16169247
You dont get much advantage with launching from height except the lulzy name rockoon

Anonymous No. 16169261

>>16169259
VS
>3 steel cables

Anonymous No. 16169263

>>16169258
Saturn V launched from there. So you're gonna have to do better than "big changes". Name them.

Anonymous No. 16169265

Reminder that we could have a balloon permanently floating above Venus' clouds and taking pretty picture but we don't

Anonymous No. 16169269

>>16169263
read it you'reself

Anonymous No. 16169270

>>16169269
No.

Anonymous No. 16169279

>>16169257
That involves buying from California or Mexico.

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>>16169279
Well California would just get it's water from Desalination and the other states can simply drink the Colorado river. pic rel.

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Anonymous No. 16169293

Starlink sats each used to cost ~$200K per piece. Which I had roughly guesstimated long ago. New ~100Gbps V2 Mini sats are estimated to be ~$800K a pop.

They're freaking cheap

Anonymous No. 16169297

In September 2019, the NASA completed the Final Environmental Assessment for the SpaceX Starship and Super Heavy Launch Vehicle at KSC (“2019 EA”) to evaluate the potential environmental impacts resulting from construction and operations associated with utilization of LC-39A for the SpaceX Starship-Super Heavy launch vehicle in practical applications. LC-39A is a SpaceX-leased launch site located on northern KSC property and currently supports SpaceX’s Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy launches.

Within the context of the 2019 EA, the scope of the Proposed Action was defined as infrastructure development and Starship-Super Heavy operations. Infrastructure development included construction of a launch mount, liquid methane farm, transport road, deluge water system, landing zone, and high-pressure gaseous commodity lines. Operations involved approximately 24 Starship-Super Heavy launches per year. NASA’s resultant Finding of No Significant Impact (FONSI) issued on September 19, 2019, concluded that the environmental impacts associated with Starship-Super Heavy infrastructure development and operations would not individually or cumulatively have a significant impact on the quality of the biological or physical environment. SpaceX did not submit a vehicle operator license application for the Starship-Super Heavy launch operations at LC-39A subsequent to the completion of the 2019 EA; therefore, the FAA did not have a federal action to adopt NASA’s EA/FONSI.

Anonymous No. 16169299

While the purpose and need for Starship-Super Heavy at LC-39A have not changed since the 2019 EA, the Starship-Super Heavy concept of operations has evolved from the original 2019 EA scope. SpaceX now proposes to construct additional launch infrastructure not previously contemplated in the 2019 EA; launch an advanced design of the Starship and Super Heavy vehicle; operate at a projected higher launch tempo; and land the Super Heavy booster at LC-39A in support of the reusability concept. Starship landings are no longer proposed to occur at Landing Zone 1 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station.

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Anonymous No. 16169314

>>16169297
>>16169299
We're never going to Mars if it takes 3 years to build a pad. EIS is 2 years

Anonymous No. 16169315

>>16169293
>$0.08/Mbps for a LEO comm sat
That's actually insane.

Anonymous No. 16169316

So what am I supposed to do if I'm in Canada? Disconnect everything from the grid and pray?

Anonymous No. 16169318

>>16169314
Imagine the EIS on Mars

Anonymous No. 16169320

>>16169316
You should be doing that anyways. The real bigbrain move is using the cover of a solar flare to set precisely timed fires.

Anonymous No. 16169322

>>16169315
Amazing how cheap you can get shit when you're not relying on third part suppliers for everything from launches to satellite buses.

Anonymous No. 16169326

>>16168905
Thanks for the summary
2 hours is pretty short, but it's not as if they will have something to do

Anonymous No. 16169330

>>16169312
it's time

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Anonymous No. 16169337

https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/3-day-geomagnetic-forecast

Anonymous No. 16169340

high hopes of finally seeing the coveted polar lights myself

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>>16168182
according to this it should be just impacting now

Anonymous No. 16169347

>A propulsion solutions provider, specializing in hypergolic propellants
ngmi
hypergolic fuels are becoming ever more niche

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Anonymous No. 16169350

PRAISED BE THE SUN

Anonymous No. 16169356

>all this fearmongering

Literally nothing is gonna happen yo u

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Anonymous No. 16169360

Wake the fuck up America. China is doing another VTVL test.

Anonymous No. 16169362

>>16169360
it's over
SpaceX is finished

Anonymous No. 16169365

>>16169360
welcome to 1995 china

Anonymous No. 16169368

>>16168364
>not 4AU

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>>16169368
NOOOOOOOO

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Anonymous No. 16169378

>>16169375
Yes, shut the fuck up and enjoy the borealis.

Anonymous No. 16169382

Will I be able to see Auroras from Germany or no?

Anonymous No. 16169389

>>16169378
are you the schizo who kept freaking out about eclipse posting during the eclipse?

Anonymous No. 16169391

>>16169316
>mfw my Tesla charges wirelessly tonight

Anonymous No. 16169392

>>16169389
No, I'm the one who usually tells people to stop reading pop science junk articles that rot their brain and act like the fucking sky is falling.

Anonymous No. 16169395

wtf, my PC just crashed

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Anonymous No. 16169406

>tells me to stop reading popsci
>refuses to tell me if I'll be able to see the aurora from Germany

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>>16169382
>>16169406
Theres a chance the further north you are. depends on how clear you skies are, both cloud and light polution. I live in a big city in northern England, lots of lights and the sun wont even set for another hour, but im going to go and find somewhere dark in a park or something and look.

Anonymous No. 16169414

>>16169408
Cloud cover here. No biggie. I can just hop in a car and drive north a bit if I feel the need.

Anonymous No. 16169419

>>16169259
bro has not heard of the drag coefficient

Anonymous No. 16169421

>>16169408
People in North Scottland might be able to see something but this generally looks like a nothingburger to me.

Anonymous No. 16169424

almost no light pollution here, gets properly dark in like 3 hours

Anonymous No. 16169427

>>16169424
Where is here? Greenland?

Anonymous No. 16169429

>>16169427
>Where is here?
Where I live

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>>16169293
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/05/just-5-years-after-its-first-launch-the-starlink-constellation-is-profitable/

the story, seems to be about the same as the spacenews one?

Anonymous No. 16169437

>>16169395
What OS?

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Anonymous No. 16169444

> le flare will take back to le dark ages

Anonymous No. 16169446

There are Krystal clear skies where I am

Anonymous No. 16169452

>>16169437
Windows Vista (pirated)

Anonymous No. 16169453

>>16169244
Interesting. How would you enter and exit? presumably any deviation from the ideal sphere weakens the structure somewhat.

Anonymous No. 16169454

>>16169452
A sketchy copy of Vista crashing? I don't believe you, that sounds like FUD.

Anonymous No. 16169466

Have we seen any Raptor 3 stuff yet at Starbase? There only four more V1 Starship stacks left so we should expect V2 to fly this year, right?

đŸ—‘ïž Anonymous No. 16169471

>>16169435
SpaceX has 50% more revenue from Starlink than the two biggest GEO satellite operators combined
it is also already making money even after capital expenditures

>Quilty estimates that Starlink will have an EBITDA of $3.8 billion this year. This value indicates how well a company is managing its day-to-day operations and stands for earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization. Additionally, Quilty estimates that capital expenditures for Starlink will be $3.1 billion this year. This leaves an estimated free cash flow from the business of about $600 million. In other words, Starlink is making money for SpaceX. It is self-sustaining.

Anonymous No. 16169476

>>16169446
All that matters is that they're Clear

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Anonymous No. 16169477

How are you going to apologize when he wins?

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>>16169435
SpaceX has 50% more revenue from Starlink than the two biggest GEO satellite operators combined
it is also already making money even after capital expenditures

>Quilty estimates that Starlink will have an EBITDA of $3.8 billion this year. This value indicates how well a company is managing its day-to-day operations and stands for earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization. Additionally, Quilty estimates that capital expenditures for Starlink will be $3.1 billion this year. This leaves an estimated free cash flow from the business of about $600 million. In other words, Starlink is making money for SpaceX. It is self-sustaining.

Anonymous No. 16169492

>>16169477
who wins?

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>>16169492
him

Anonymous No. 16169497

>>16169476
Someone should draw the two of them fucking to settle this once and for all (Krystal on top, obviously)

Anonymous No. 16169499

>>16169495
Wins what?

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>>16169499
the argument Bezos has been seething about for over two decades now
Musk and Bezos met in 2004, Musk told Bezos his approach was wrong

https://www.ndtv.com/offbeat/when-elon-musk-and-jeff-bezos-met-to-discuss-space-in-2004-2396130

Anonymous No. 16169507

>>16169504
Musk won that argument over a decade ago. He's launching orbital boosters on a near daily basis, Bezos is launching a sounding rocket on a quarterly/bi-annual basis.

Anonymous No. 16169510

https://spacenews.com/faa-to-begin-environmental-review-of-starship-launches-from-kennedy-space-center/

So SpaceX launch site at Florida is delayed by few years?

Anonymous No. 16169515

>>16169510
>muh EIS

Total NEPA death

Anonymous No. 16169518

>>16169510
I guess, but there is also talk about a catch tower (maybe just two towers)

>A new EIS, the FAA concluded, is needed because of changes in the design of Starship and its operations since the 2019 assessment. “SpaceX now proposes to construct additional launch infrastructure not previously contemplated in the 2019 EA,” the FAA stated, including a “catch tower” for Super Heavy booster landings. The Starship/Super Heavy design itself has changed significantly since 2019, and SpaceX has discussed plans to further evolve the design.

Anonymous No. 16169520

but I mean this time it could be faster than 2 years? they already have experience in approving infrastructure like this, so shouldn't that speed up the paperwork? Just copypaste most of the stuff from boca chica

Anonymous No. 16169522

>>16169510
Sort of, but the reason it’s delayed is the methane station SpaceX is building. Starbase is going to have 2 OLMs so this won’t be an issue for a while

Anonymous No. 16169538

>>16169520
it's not that easy in bureaucracy

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Anonymous No. 16169544

Thought I could catch it on the ISS livestream but no sign of it yet.

Anonymous No. 16169547

>>16169544
that stupid photobomb has been there for months now

Anonymous No. 16169567

>>16168052
the cambrian explosion and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

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Anonymous No. 16169570

Visible already

Anonymous No. 16169572

>>16168222
a dragon on top of falcon heavy alone isn't gonna be able to make lunar orbit and return

Anonymous No. 16169577

>>16168255
>I worry that Avcoat can’t reliably support the size of reentry shield that Orion requires.
i thought reentry heating was one of those things that got easier the bigger your craft is

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I'm not seeing it guys

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>>16169570

Anonymous No. 16169601

>>16169582
one of the dangers of light speed travel have been solved by a /sci/entist

Anonymous No. 16169614

>>16169504
What was the argument about?

Anonymous No. 16169616

>>16169577
in principle yeah, in practice the shift from monolithic to tiled shields is a mess

Anonymous No. 16169618

>>16169614
They have very different architectural approaches and different goals. Bezos wants to move everyone off Earth to orbital habitats, Elon wants to colonize Mars. Blue Origin is run like an oldspace company, SpaceX is run like a silicon valley tech company. Both recognized they needed a new engine architecture, BE-4 just happens to suck.

Anonymous No. 16169622

>>16169618
so they're both just autistic got it.

Anonymous No. 16169626

>>16168334
looks nothing like starship
fail

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>>16169618
>Bezos wants to move everyone off Earth to orbital habitats, Elon wants to colonize Mars.
I propose a daring synthesis

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Anonymous No. 16169628

>Biggest CME event in 2 decades
>it's cloudy AND foggy in Perth
>probably the only time I'll ever be able to see Aurora Australis this far north

JUST.

Anonymous No. 16169629

>>16169601
Droplet shields aren't a new concept and that one wastes onboard volatiles. Just use asteroid ice.

Anonymous No. 16169631

>>16169628
it's probably going to be around at least through tomorrow, don't give up hope anon

Anonymous No. 16169632

Is there any way for ULA to survive in the future or are they fucked?

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>>16169628
>got as far north as Serpentine even, but then clouds are further north

I fucking hate this universe. Can't even see shit when it finally does something pretty.

Anonymous No. 16169634

>>16169622
Yeah, Bezos genuinely loves space, he has I think the best private collection of Apollo hardware in the world, recovered F1 engines from the Atlantic, etc. Blue Origin would be a good company if they actually did anything, I'm actually fine with a BO backup lander for Artemis.
>>16169627
He wants to literally depopulate Earth and keep it as a nature preserve, that's a bit far for me. It's not really my problem since I'd leave way before it would be technologically feasible, but it is weird. Colonizing Mars is a fairly reasonable goal in my opinion.

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>>16169631
It's going to be cloudy/rainy tonight too (it's 5am here).
Only other time it was this visible this far north I'd presume was Halloween 2003 or Carrington when gold diggers at Kalgoorlie could see it.

It's so joe-ver.

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>>16169634
Does he know that earth has like 30-40% of the surface area in the solar system we can actually use (including Venus)?

We're too populated for 5 solar systems already.

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>>16169634
He should unironically hire me as CEO with my extensive /sfg/ experience.

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One of Bezos' most interesting projects.

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>>16169634
I like the idea of Earth being largely a wildlife preserve with our more picturesque and historic structures/city cores kept around. If you want to enter the wild you can only carry what's on your back and if a predator gets you that's just tough luck

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Anonymous No. 16169651

Ah ffs. It's so bright at Albany too.
Had no rain or clouds for like 9 months before these last couple weeks.

I'm so mad.

Anonymous No. 16169652

>>16169628
Same here, clouded, and all the streetlights are still on.
I wont see shit.
And i already had one too many to take the car to a remote place without light population.

Anonymous No. 16169653

>>16169650
I have this idea where a certain continent would be completely depopulated and only webcams left to people can watch the animals take over from their homes.

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>>16169642
you can get thousands of Earth surface areas with O'Neill type habs

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saw enough, now can go to sleep

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>>16169661
it's just some ligths

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>>16169652
I assumed it was actually going to be too overcast to see it anywhere because it's a west coast low. I just happened to be up early due to going to bed early.
But apparently if I went south of Serpentine I would have seen it.
>fun fact, you are more likely to see the Aurora in Aus than you'd think because the magnetic pole shift has pushed the south pole far closer to the equator than the north pole AND towards Australia
People always assume we're too far north here, but we're actually a lot closer to the pole than people think.

Anonymous No. 16169666

>>16169661
why are all aurora clips sped up

Anonymous No. 16169670

>>16169661
where at?

Anonymous No. 16169672

>>16169666
it's from 4 minute capture
>>16169670
Lithuania

Anonymous No. 16169673

>>16169642
That problem is solvable by blocking certain countries in the third world from importing food and oil.

Anonymous No. 16169679

>>16169672
why did you speed it up and can you see it well with the naked eye?

Anonymous No. 16169680

>>16169642
This map looks a whole lot bigger when you smash planets and asteroids to turn then into habitats.

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>>16169656
I am all for the destruction of sydney with one of these.

Anonymous No. 16169683

>>16169510
America isnt serious about beating China to the moon

Anonymous No. 16169684

>>16169680
Those are on there.

Also we don't even use most of Earth's surface area already.
Don't even use most of her resources, other than petroleum.

Anonymous No. 16169685

>>16169683
Yep, America is truly a failed state.

Anonymous No. 16169694

>>16169679
It's just what comes out when you do long exposure on pixel phone, and yeah you can see with naked eye, green a bit less.

Anonymous No. 16169698

>>16169684
>those are in there

Thats the surface volume of a sphere you fucking retard, now calculate for volume instead.

Anonymous No. 16169704

It's back down to G3 now

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>>16168354
I hear they resemble foxes

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Anonymous No. 16169710

Even bunbury now.

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Anonymous No. 16169712

https://twitter.com/relativityspace/status/1789011669727003064
This engine race between Relativity and Rocket Lab is starting to get interesting

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>>16169710
Even Jurien.
>Went right over us and couldn't see shit because light pollution and clouds/fog

Anonymous No. 16169718

>>16169708
interesting! any specific color of foxes?

Anonymous No. 16169722

>>16169715
Damn, even kinda visible from Geraldton. Kinda hard to see though.
https://www.transport.wa.gov.au/imarine/geraldton-cam.asp

I don't think the carrington event got that high.

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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1789039556966445283

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>>16169718
They could be red or black or white or brown, like on Earth. But they're aliens so maybe even blue, like in this artist's depiction! Who knows?

Anonymous No. 16169728

>>16169653
I think getting infrastructure across that much of Russia would be difficult, anon

Anonymous No. 16169736

>>16169725
Are you a Turk or a Russian or a rare Africanon

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>>16169736

Anonymous No. 16169746

>>16169725
~8 years from napkin math to a supermajority of the functional satellites in orbit

Anonymous No. 16169749

>>16169712
my bet is on relativity space

Anonymous No. 16169770

>next doors alarm goes off
>my oven starts bugging
>lights flickering

It's obvious we're underprepared now.
None of our networks are properly shielded from salty rain, let alone geomag storms.
People saying otherwise are genuinely in denial there's problems.

If this was G5 we'd might get fucked up. I'm assuming the solar panels on everyone's homes are not being dealt with in our electrical networks correctly.
This shouldn't be that hard to fix and ultimately it could pay for itself by reducing equipment damage in our homes and offices from non geo-mag related surges, etc.

Why are we stuck in the 50s with electrical grid management when we use 21st century equipment and power sources nowadays?
I don't think it would ever completely fuck us up, but it will cost millions to billions in damages like a hurricane would. It's just not as obvious as hurricanes. I'll bet most computer bugs in our networks get them from these storms and have done so since the 50s. Computers are electrical engineering, not magic. Surges do impact their error rates. They also should be properly shielded. We still haven't done that correctly and we've literally known about the issue since the 80s when things like Apple computers (I think it was apple) used to bug because of shielding issues. They half fixed the situation and other pcs followed.. but it's still not enough.

Anonymous No. 16169776

>>16169722
is it because the pole's closer to you now than it was during carrington?

Anonymous No. 16169777

>>16169312
just saw aurora borealis in my city at 49° latitude
its so over

Anonymous No. 16169780

9-?

Damn, biggest since 2005 easily.
Still nothing on 2003, like not even close.

I like how these storms were stronger and frequent during SC23's solar max.
Hopefully this storm wakes up electrical providers so they realise that 2024 isn't 2005... we're not prepared for that tier of storm activity at all.

Anonymous No. 16169782

>>16169776
Could be. Not sure.
It doesn't make sense.

I wonder how far north SC23's storms got. I don't remember seeing any back then and my city was like half the size and half the light pollution back then.

Anonymous No. 16169785

>>16169777
Mein neger see >>16169722 >>16169715
I wouldn't be surprised if this reached up to 28S. You can see it faintly on that webcam if you check.

That's actually astonishing because we've had bigger Geo storms and I don't think they got that far north.

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Anonymous No. 16169788

>solar storm!
>solar storm!
>solar storm!
Like always, nothing will happen.

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>>16168986
Now that's a party.

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Anonymous No. 16169792

BROOOOOOOS ITS ALMOST WDR TIME LATE MAY LAUNCH DATE IS REAL

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Anonymous No. 16169798

ALSO theres THREE rollouts for tower sections as follows
>May 13, 2024 from 11:00 PM until 3:00 AM
>May 15, 2024 from 11:00 PM until 3:00 AM
>May 17, 2024 from 11:00 PM until 3:00 AM
SO TOWER 2 IS NEARING COMPLETION WE ARE ALMOST THERE BROS THE STARSHIP V2 ERA IS ALMOST UPON US

Anonymous No. 16169799

>>16169788
We've already lost stereo sats from storms.
I've literally dealt with legal cases in the billions involving damage from faulting transformers from such storms.

You never hear about this on the news because it's confidential and has economic impact.
Our current electrical engineering is so incompetent that we run models and data on machines that have flawed data maintenance systems. They bug. They perturb their data.
And I imagine part of the reason is the lack of shielded electrical wiring and equipment, because electrical engineers and electrical providers are LAZY.
It's not even cost.
It's sheer laziness.

The garbage I've seen admins of such companies say from the inside astounds me.
And excel spreadsheets are a terrible utility to run such networks. That was the part that astonished me the most. I thought they had tailor made software data implementations for their shit. They often don't. They hack together shit using basic entry level software, often.

It's utterly baffling.
But when you're dealing with engineers that know what a transistor or a diode is, but then don't know how that is applicable to their data, stats and computer systems and the integrity of their data/control systems, you have problems.

Anonymous No. 16169800

>>16169770
>Why are we stuck in the 50s with electrical grid management when we use 21st century equipment and power sources nowadays?

Why would power companies shell out billions of dollars to improve services when they can just keep them going on life support and hand out dividends instead?

Anonymous No. 16169804

>>16169800
Because it could literally get them into multi-billion dollar legal cases if they don't.
And I've personally seen that.

>oh and then the consumer gets their prices jacked up

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Anonymous No. 16169811

>huh I wonder how /pol/ are handling the solar storm
>

Anonymous No. 16169813

I didn't ask

Anonymous No. 16169814

I asked and was informed

Anonymous No. 16169815

>>16169811
/pol/ doesn't know shit about solar storms.
Fuck off with your denialism.

I'm saying issues per my literal experience in industries.

Anonymous No. 16169816

>>16169811
prove it wrong
you cant

Anonymous No. 16169819

>>16169816
you're wright, I am waiting to a s c e n d into 5G

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>>16169749
They do seem to be in the lead with their hardware testing

Meanwhile, India is also getting into the engine printing business
https://twitter.com/isro/status/1788891338299289683
>Design & Manufacturing Breakthrough: ISRO successfully conducts a long-duration test of the PS4 engine, re-designed for production using cutting-edge additive manufacturing techniques and crafted in the Indian industry. The new engine, now a single piece, saves 97% of raw materials and reduces production time by 60%.

I doubt that a 7.5kN thruster is either a cost or lead item for the PSLV, but it's still cool to see

Anonymous No. 16169822

>oh no he challenged my delusional fantasies
>better call him /pol/ and run away from the criticism

I hate these faggots the most. These people are why space is still basically impossible. Complacency has not improved anything. It's made our systems dysfunction and the space industry a giant racket of nothing but begging for money.

Anonymous No. 16169823

>>16169811
>jewish well poisoning

Anonymous No. 16169825

>>16169819
Are we going to talk about how much of a failure 5G is with getting people better coverage?
No we won't, because that's apparently conspiracy according to the industry that is in a sunk cost situation.

Phone coverage is now getting worse btw.

Anonymous No. 16169827

>>16169825
its k 8G is coming

Anonymous No. 16169830

Oh and the REAL reason why the issues are never addressed is because of the economic ramifications of people realising that it's a flawed product.
It would harm bank balance sheets.

This is why your press will literally cover up most problematic things that could impact property prices nowadays.
Gotta inflate those pools of assets!


Same with the space industry.

Anonymous No. 16169835

>>16169825
Why don't they simply put two 5Gs together to make a 10G?

Anonymous No. 16169838

>>16169825
>5G
>Better coverage
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Anonymous No. 16169839

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1789066871452381586

Anonymous No. 16169840

>>16169835
it's not that easy in G'ery

Anonymous No. 16169845

>>16169811
fuck off you stupid immigrant go back to where you came from

Anonymous No. 16169846

>>16169823
*gravity well

Anonymous No. 16169848

>>16169825
5G is mostly about cities. LTE chokes in dense crowds but millimeter wave 5G can handle a full stadium.

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Anonymous No. 16169849

https://twitter.com/Wicky_dubs_WX/status/1789076845431754907
>According to Hp30 (this is an index like Kp, but it averages over 30 minutes instead of 3 hours), we are in a G5 storm. Anything over "9.0" is G5-- we are at "11". Time will tell if this #solarstorm has the punch to cause Kp to reach G5 as well. #SpinalTap references duly noted.
>Waiting for the updates from this. 3H index will likely say G5 in the next update from SWPC.

Anonymous No. 16169851

>>16169839
boosters are not spacecraft, fucking midwit

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Anonymous No. 16169854

>>16169839
nobody here is replying to the astronomical news that two weeks reset countdown is over because theyre all /pol/ immigrants who care more about off topic schizophrenia like that retarded infographic from earlier. they derail the general so easily its just sad. watch somebody reply angrily because everything i said was directed at them.

Anonymous No. 16169857

>>16169851
why do you feel the need to try and seem smarter than everyone in the most minor of things like this. it doesnt make you look smarter it just makes you more annoying.

Anonymous No. 16169858

>>16169857
Why do they feel the need to act like oldfag know it alls?

Anonymous No. 16169859

>>16169857
spacecrafts go to space, end of story

Anonymous No. 16169861

>>16169859
space isn't real

Anonymous No. 16169862

>>16169858
i dont know desu, when i was still (more of) a newfag a few years ago i just wanted to learn about the hobby i specifically came here for.
everyone who came after 2015 is newscum still apparantly so i guess i count.

Anonymous No. 16169865

>>16169861
Then we agree

Anonymous No. 16169869

>>16169642
>all human skin is almost the size of the north island of NZ

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Anonymous No. 16169870

>>16169849

Anonymous No. 16169871

So, how many satellites just got cooked?

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Anonymous No. 16169873

>>16169848
What I like is that in my country, farmers are complaining because they cut off 3G networks and went all in on 4G and 5G.
That really shows just how dumb these people are.

But I can't even get reception in my room nowadays. That's a relatively new thing.
5G won't fry you because it can barely reach you. It's arguably safer than 3G, but not intentionally.

Anonymous No. 16169874

>>16169871
that's the ultimate nothingbuhrger test. if nothing happens, then the carrington event was a hoax

Anonymous No. 16169875

>>16169838
Yeah that was a joke because it doesn't.
It has worse coverage and is redundant because of that in places like Australia where there is a large space to cover.

People thinking that it's useful for surveillance are ignorant because these networks actually cover LESS than 3G.

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Anonymous No. 16169876

>>16169008
>50% of all vehicles would be electric!
ebin

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Anonymous No. 16169877

>>16169870
https://twitter.com/_SpaceWeather_/status/1789079269957611788
>Extreme G5 geomagnetic storm (Kp9)$1$sThreshold Reached: 22:54 UTC

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Anonymous No. 16169878

>>16169849
>not over 9000 yet

Anonymous No. 16169879

>>16169869
Contemplate the fleshscape.

Anonymous No. 16169880

5G /pol/ spam. General is unusable. Hoping they hire new jannies soon.

Anonymous No. 16169882

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zuqDt-KlkM
Thread soundtrack.

>>16169853
These vids are sick. We need more sats doing this shit ay.

Anonymous No. 16169884

>>16169869
>ywn explore that NZ otherworld-esque fleshy hell
Why even live?

Anonymous No. 16169887

>>16169880
Nah it's better to educate them on why the elites are dumb for trying to use 5G for their drone networks.
You know how many events I've seen with drones that have had them crash because of network coverage issues? kek

Anonymous No. 16169888

>>16169871
Stereo already got cooked without a storm kek.

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Anonymous No. 16169890

https://x.com/vickicocks15/status/1789084633587458065
B11 moved out of the bay, WDR soon

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Anonymous No. 16169891

https://twitter.com/seanorphoto/status/1789079965478326423/
>Absolutely biblical skies in Tasmania at 4am this morning. I’m leaving today and knew I could not pass up this opportunity for such a large solar storm. Here’s the image. I actually had to de-saturate the colours. Clouds glowing red. Insane. Shot on Nikon. Rt appreciated

Anonymous No. 16169892

>>16169846
Gravity wells are already poisoned with gravity. And what's worse, some of them are infested with earthers.

Anonymous No. 16169894

>>16169854
>someone complains about electric grid issues
>this poster posts this >>16169811 to begin associating this crap with that poster

They do this EVERY thread I complain about this bullshit.
Like every time.

This is what happens when you have corporations that pay people to spam on here for marketing purposes.
Criticism affects their asset pools.
Just look at the GFC. They're still trying to inflate property prices to inflate their property bubbles and mortgage pools while shutting down criticism that could impact property prices.

Anonymous No. 16169895

>>16169892
Only ours is..

Anonymous No. 16169898

>>16169827
You might as well put wifi every 10 m or so and do this at this stage. That's how dumb it is.

I don't know what else they could do to increase wifi speeds. It's a serious dilemma ay. We need wifi (regardless of the cancer, because getting rid of it will DEFINITELY kill more people).
Maybe the system of multiplexing or whatever they use nowadays on wifi.

Or maybe we should revive pigeon mail. :^)

Anonymous No. 16169899

>>16169891
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6wtDPVkKqI

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Anonymous No. 16169904

https://twitter.com/SpaceNews_Inc/status/1789083060694098259
>Serbia becomes latest country to join China’s ILRS moon base project
https://spacenews.com/serbia-becomes-latest-country-to-join-chinas-ilrs-moon-base-project/

Anonymous No. 16169907

Why is there no news on the aurora, it's all just paper shredding?

Anonymous No. 16169910

>>16169898
>Or maybe we should revive pigeon mail. :^)
We need to bring back the passenger pigeon first, get on it 4ASS. Inter-colony communication utilizing underground tunnel systems will rely crucially on pigeon power.

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Anonymous No. 16169915

>>16169898
Not spaceflight or science or math

Anonymous No. 16169916

>>16169895
We can certainly hope so, but we don't know.

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Anonymous No. 16169917

>G5 storm
>barely an S2

huh?
2003 was S4. What's going on?

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Anonymous No. 16169922

>>16169917
I don't know how the sun works but the bigger number sounds more ominous.

Anonymous No. 16169924

Spaceflight?

Anonymous No. 16169927

>>16169922
Yeah but my issue is that protons are the thing that causes problems to satellites.
I don't want the public to get complacent with G5 because the proton count is lower than other G5s.

Anonymous No. 16169930

>>16169927
>I don't want the public to get complacent
Why? Literally nothing happened.
Maybe take your meds?

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Anonymous No. 16169933

Our little ball of fire is so cute.

Anonymous No. 16169934

>>16169930
Alright, next time s5 is reached and no one gives a shit, don't complain to me.
What I'm trying to say is that the G scale is useless.

Anonymous No. 16169935

>NOAA UPGRADES GEOMAGNETIC STORM TO "HIGH G5"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4s6H4ku6ZY

Anonymous No. 16169938

>>16169673
I think Israel has some domestic food and oil production though.

Anonymous No. 16169942

>>16169930
Also, you have no idea if things have happened, because your corporations lie to you and pretend nothing has happened.

I've already heard alarms go off in this area.

Anonymous No. 16169944

>400ap
interesting.

Anonymous No. 16169950

>>16169873
There are two parts of 5G, a long range band and millimeter wave. Your ISP sucks if they don't use both.

Anonymous No. 16169951

>>16169933
I wonder what it'd be like to look up at a different one
I don't mean "you were born under a different sun and look up", I mean looking up at a sun you know to be alien, or rather you're alien to it.

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Anonymous No. 16169952

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/05/nasa-wants-a-cheaper-mars-sample-return-boeing-proposes-most-expensive-rocket/
Have some spaceflight

Anonymous No. 16169959

>florida environmental study is likely to last years
2039 it is

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Anonymous No. 16169964

>>16169952
kek what did Boing mean by this

Anonymous No. 16169965

>>16169904
iran and north korea are the two biggest missing players from ILRS but who knows when they'll join

Anonymous No. 16169968

>>16169952
Reminder that MSR can never be cheap because of planetary protection requirements

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>>16169964

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Anonymous No. 16169974

So officially one of the strongest storms up with 2003 and 1989 now.
But on S2?
So it impacted magnetometers but wasn't spewing protons?

I'm confus.
Is that because the flares associated with the CMEs were lower X flares than 2003 (X40ish vs X3ish)?

Anonymous No. 16169975

>>16169520
No, EIS is the long one. It's gonna bite them in the ass one of these days that they didn't do a bunch of fuck you huge EIS at ITS '16 scale back then.

Anonymous No. 16169976

>>16169973
I think everybody, even corporations, would be on board for this.
Even the IRS, who probably are suicidal nowadays.

Anonymous No. 16169977

>>16169973
this is the post what made me do it.

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>>16169973

Anonymous No. 16169981

>>16168305
>no aurora for EU either
YOU FUCKIGN NIGGERS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN VISIBLE FROM HERE IF WE GOT IT

Anonymous No. 16169984

>>16168340
>>16169022
>kvetch kvetch kvetch

Anonymous No. 16169985

>>16169453
Why would you ever want to leave the City?

Anonymous No. 16169988

>>16169318
You'd need to do a full planetary survey for life before the EIS can be completed, which NASA refuses to do.

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Anonymous No. 16169992

>>16169981
Only Americans get the cool shit

Anonymous No. 16169993

>>16169992
i hate this gay earth so much

Anonymous No. 16169994

>storm affects network
>try to blame it on a tree
lol
https://web.archive.org/web/20240509194526/https://poweroutage.us/area/utility/36

Anonymous No. 16169996

>>16168305
>>16169992
Will I get to see it in Arizona?

Anonymous No. 16169998

>>16169992
and canadians in that little bit (me)

Anonymous No. 16170000

>>16169965
North Korea, Iran, and Kazakhstan are all shoe-ins for ILRS, but none of them really contribute much beyond adding a +1 to the membership list. Hungary, Austria, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Estonia, Ireland, and Portugal should all be easy pickups for Artemis via their ESA member status but they're not bringing much on their own either. Taiwan is another easy Artemis member.

The only real big pick left on the board is Indonesia. They're a big country with a big economy and they've got a lot of interest in space. They've got a fleet of about a dozen geostationary telecom satellites and they've tried to entice SpaceX to build a launch complex in their country. They also have strong economic ties with China, but they're smart enough not to slip into the vassal role that China prefers. They could really go either way at this point. Vietnam and the Philippines are in similar situations, but they're not as large or as interested in space.

Iran might not be that far off from joining. They've had an interest in getting one of their citizens into space for decades, and would have sent one up to Mir in the early 90s if the USSR hadn't collapsed. They recently struck a similar deal with China to visit Tiangong, and we might see a big public announcement after China sends up their next set of modules. Announcing that Iran is joining ILRS at the same time as they reveal the first Iranian astronaut would make sense.

Anonymous No. 16170001

>>16169996
no, too far south

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Anonymous No. 16170002

Sigh..
The fact that there's a cluster around the coast of bunbury confirms my suspicions about those insulators. Those things are ready to blow without the storm because of salt water affecting them. This same are in fact got bushfires I presume from some of them going off. That was during either a major flare or a storm (one of those) a few months ago. But I see this regularly.
These easily cause millions of dollars of damage btw. So the idea that we're safe from these things is completely off. They are a detriment to the economy big time.

I can only imagine how annoying this storm is in 3rd world nations where things aren't maintained at all.

I just wanted to show how undramatic millions of dollars of damage actually looks. It's not terrifying, but it is expensive.

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Anonymous No. 16170005

>>16170001
Pretty sure I'm gonna see it

Anonymous No. 16170006

>>16170005
"Possibly visible over northern horizon" means you aren't seeing shit.

Anonymous No. 16170007

>>16170006
>believing scientist forecasts
yeah, you really wanna play that game?

Anonymous No. 16170008

>>16170005
>Great Lakes region north
>rain arrives
Suck a dick, weather.
Annihilate the atmosphere, make it go away

Anonymous No. 16170010

>>16170007
You posted the image, chump. Sorry about your shithole beaner state by the way

Anonymous No. 16170014

>>16169992
>100% cloud cover where I was
>won't be another total eclipse in the US for 20 more years
>>16170005
I'm surprised it can be seen that far south, but I'm right on the line, so probably not for me.

Anonymous No. 16170015

>>16170014
You had the option to drive but you chose not to. I drove from AZ to AK and caught it

Anonymous No. 16170016

>might have been visible from here in europe
>was facing south with a campfire all evening
there is no wojak pink enough for this feeling

Anonymous No. 16170017

One day we will get a Carrington event at the START of the solar cycle before years of maintenance work on electrical grids from consistent smaller storms.
Only then will people realise just how dangerous these things truly are.

Grids need maintenance. They degrade. Storms merely set them off normally.
And when they're consistently small, no one notices.
When they're large but AFTER smaller storms for years, no one notices (like now).
But when they're large and at the beginning of a cycle, with no maintenance having been done because of previous storm effects and after years of solar minimum - that's when the catastrophic network damage actually happens.

Anonymous No. 16170018

>>16170015
I mean AR loool

Anonymous No. 16170019

>>16170015
It was on a Monday. Some people have this thing called a "job". If I didn't, I would have been with some friends north of Dallas.

Anonymous No. 16170020

>>16170017
Ok that's fine, I hope it happens. If people are dying it will probably get fixed faster

Anonymous No. 16170021

>>16170019
I dont work mondays, I took tuesday off (paid leave), and I was late to work wednesday (wfh). Get a better job

Anonymous No. 16170022

>>16170020
But the economic consequences could be beyond catastrophic and we're already doomed from the GFC/covid.
I can't even use the beach nowadays there's that many fucking homeless drug addicts.

Anonymous No. 16170023

>>16170022
when the power is out, we can kill the drug addicts

Anonymous No. 16170025

if we had a moon base everyone on it would be dead by now

Anonymous No. 16170026

>>16170025
Just throw some dirt over the hab, you should've to begin with

Anonymous No. 16170027

>>16170021
>I dont work mondays
Lucky fucking you. I didn't have enough time off saved up to take off two days for it. I have something much better than 5 minutes of the sun hiding to use those two days on next month.

Anonymous No. 16170028

>>16170019
>Some people have this thing called a "job"

Point at him and laugh

Anonymous No. 16170029

>X5.89
Nice.
Also something tells me this is just the first storm of many to come and they're going to get worse over June.

>>16170023
Well that's assuming you aren't homeless yourself at that stage.

Anonymous No. 16170031

>>16170029
worse? maybe. this year is the peak of the 11 year solar cycle, so it'll definitely be above average.

Anonymous No. 16170034

>>16170015
>I drove from AZ to AK and caught it
You drove to Alaska?

Anonymous No. 16170036

>>16170027
it feels like I'm staring at a toaster oven waiting for my pizza rolls to cook, or sitting too close to a campfire, except the heat permeates the air and there is nowhere to hide. I look up at the sun and yell IS THIS THE BEST YOU GOT? Get in my black sedan after baking all day, 150°F inside. I burn myself on my seatbelt buckle. This happens every year!

Anonymous No. 16170039

>>16170034
I drove to Little Rock, Alaska

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Anonymous No. 16170041

#wenhop?

Anonymous No. 16170042

>>16170036
Humans are not supposed to live in Arizona. I've been there, I can tell. The state hasn't been terraformed yet.

Anonymous No. 16170046

>>16170031
Then max was predicted June.
I think the timing is right, but the magnitude is somehow completely off.
SC25 should have been weaker than SC24 and it has already been stronger for some time before this storm.
So the fact that this storm happened near the max suggests that it's merely the magnitude that was wrong.

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Anonymous No. 16170047

https://twitter.com/_SpaceWeather_/status/1789104207401828831
>Strong R3 radio blackout in progress (≄X1 - current: X5.43)

Anonymous No. 16170049

>>16170042
>The state hasn't been terraformed yet.
You have more chance of living on Mars than Phoenix Arizona.
It's just a fact.

Anonymous No. 16170062

Can the storm set off smoke alarms? Mine's gone off a couple of times today for no reason.

Anonymous No. 16170063

>>16170047
These are pretty regular though.

Anonymous No. 16170065

>>16170049
Without an air-conditioned vehicle I was forced to flee that place after nightfall, when the temperature dipped all the way down to 85*F.
Arizona must be terraformed in order for humans to reasonably live there, scuttling from air conditioned box to air conditioned box in air conditioned vehicles is scarcely different than living on the moon as it is.

Anonymous No. 16170066

>>16170062
I wonder if it could impact the air quality near smoke alarms?
I doubt that.
But it might affect the electricals. I've heard a few alarms already around me go off. Kinda cool.

I don't remember that happening in 2003, which is worrying. 2003 was bigger.

Anonymous No. 16170070

>>16170063
Not anywhere near this scale. There's usually just a blob of yellow and red somewhere. This time it's more a case of what areas aren't affected

Anonymous No. 16170083

Getting a mild headache. Maybe it does affect EM/radio frequencies enough to cause a very mild headache. Gonna assume placebo, but if not - honestly more than I thought would happen with that shit.

Though air inversions cause much much worse issues and it's always the lower EM freqs (not 5G) that cause issues. I don't know why people assume it's the higher freqs that are the problem. The lower freq can penetrate things much much more.
You have to have your head next to a 5G transmitter to cause problems to your health.

>now bluetooth on the other hand...

Anonymous No. 16170088

noticed my lights briefliy blinking twice now already, power grid must be strained

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Anonymous No. 16170097

GOES WEATHER SATELLITES ABOUT TO SURPASS WARNING THRESHOLD!!

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Anonymous No. 16170099

fffffuck I can't believe we reached G5

Anonymous No. 16170100

>>16170070
Nah I've seen it like that before a few times. That might be the worst I've seen it though.

Anonymous No. 16170103

last 3 digits of my post are how many Starlinks SpaceX loses to this storm

Anonymous No. 16170104

>>16170097
Wew, ok this might fuck some sats up.
Didn't some fail with a lesser storm recently?

Anonymous No. 16170105

>>16170104
yes specifically ones that were just launched a day or so before the G2 storm in Feb 2022, thankfully SpaceX wouldn't do something so silly as that again now would th

Anonymous No. 16170107

>>16170099
>aurora has been seen in southern texas
>mfw its thick ass clouds outside
cant see shit

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Anonymous No. 16170108

Hang on, if protons are only just now coming in, was that just the beginning?
Jesus Christ what is happening. This makes no sense. None of them were X10+

Anonymous No. 16170110

>>16170099
I honestly thought solar max was like 3 months ago.
I couldn't have been more wrong and I think this party might just be starting.

NASAs prediction got the timing right, but definitely not the magnitude. It's so off it's ridiculous.

Anonymous No. 16170112

>>16170105
CANDLEJACK STOP HE DIDN'T MEAN TO DO THI

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>>16170114
>X5.4 flare
we're moving up!

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>>16170097
oooh it got close

Anonymous No. 16170118

>>16170005
>Literally stops at the border of Mexico
Se acabĂł

Anonymous No. 16170120

if the moon had a magnetic core then we'd see lunar aurora from the earth...

Anonymous No. 16170126

>>16170120
damn

Anonymous No. 16170128

>>16170118
it respects the border wall, unlike some people

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Anonymous No. 16170129

big if true

Anonymous No. 16170131

>>16168207
>WA
>importing Saffir retardism
I was gonna write you off as full of shit but now I know you're telling the truth

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Anonymous No. 16170132

yeah im thinking this storm is kino

Anonymous No. 16170136

>>16170118
That was a conservative forecast. People have been seeing things overhead as far south as the Bahamas.

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Anonymous No. 16170141

>>16170136
I only saw it about 10-15 degrees above the horizon in north texas :(

Anonymous No. 16170152

>>16170129
kek

Anonymous No. 16170158

the sky is a bit green and red, cool I guess

Anonymous No. 16170160

>>16170158
SHUT UP IM TOO FAR SOUTH AND ITS TOO CLOUDY SO I DIDNT SEE IT

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Anonymous No. 16170161

STAGING

>>16170159
>>16170159
>>16170159
>>16170159
>>16170159

Anonymous No. 16170163

>>16169891
Hmmm maybe we shouldn’t remove atmosphere

Anonymous No. 16170167

>>16169898
global mesh networks

Anonymous No. 16170177

>>16170025
isn't it a new moon right now? they'd be shadowed by the moon

Anonymous No. 16170216

>>16170167
Well just fucking have permanent ethernet connection nodes everywhere at that stage.
What's the fucking point? kek

Anonymous No. 16170471

>>16170110
>>16170099
Nothingburger

Anonymous No. 16170559

>>16169453
Given the size these things are meant to be I think an opening big enough for a helicopter would be so relatively small it wouldn't affect anything. You could even make it an simple airlock to stop as much heat leaving when you open it to the outside (but again it probably wouldn't really matter that much relatively)