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Anonymous No. 16165415

S26's Last Stand Edition

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Anonymous No. 16165419

sorry i cant stay up to watch this bros, im barely awake. see you all tomorrow

Anonymous No. 16165447

aeiou

Anonymous No. 16165452

John Madden

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Anonymous No. 16165453

How badly does picrel style of management affect Boing's spaceflight business?

Anonymous No. 16165456

>>16165453
There's a reason the first Starliner flight ended in the Indian RCS Shimmy.

Anonymous No. 16165473

Does someone have the link or image to the article talking about how the pajesh programmers at boeing used "Delhi time" in an internal clock on either starliner or on the 737? Everything seems to be wiped from the internet yet i clearly remember this

Anonymous No. 16165477

>>16165473
You're probably thinking of shartliner, that was 11 hours off where it should've been. But that would only put the "timezone" somewhere in East Asia, and most likely that clock was running off mission elapsed time anyway (power on was roughly 11 hours before launch)

Anonymous No. 16165478

>>16165473
Starliner mission clock was fucked yeah. Idk if it was set for the evening street shitting time but wouldn't surprise me.

Anonymous No. 16165517

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1787977151394062577

Anonymous No. 16165537

Everything interesting is happening in at least two weeks. I can't stand it.

Anonymous No. 16165545

>>16165517
Guess there is still a reason to watch starlink launches. We take it for granted, but it is still incredible the quality of launch and on orbit footage we get on a regular basis. This view wouldn't exist if they just played a data driven animation. This reminds me to be more thankful for what we have.

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Anonymous No. 16165563

>>16165453
Take your hormones and go to sleep.

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Anonymous No. 16165570

Will we ever get a Haynes manual >>16165233 for Starship? Falcon?

Anonymous No. 16165571

>>16165570
probably not since spacex is not very open about that stuff

Anonymous No. 16165581

>>16165570
maybe in ~100 years

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Anonymous No. 16165596

Can someone explain this malarket of the geometry of the universe?

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Anonymous No. 16165597

>>16165453

Anonymous No. 16165603

>>16165597
la creatura...

Anonymous No. 16165618

>>16165597
Nigliner

Anonymous No. 16165623

>>16165596
It's flat, but if there's any kind of deviation from flat there'd be huge consequences, so they've put a lot of work into looking for non-flatness. Obviously they haven't found any.

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Anonymous No. 16165624

>>16165597
He's got the face of an Airbus lel

Anonymous No. 16165637

>>16165597
I used to think that the crude drawing of the american mutt was an exaggeration.

Anonymous No. 16165638

>>16165623
how does that even work though? It's 3 dimensional not flat

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Barkon No. 16165640

>>16165638
Fart on me, or

Anonymous No. 16165643

>>16165545
What kills me is the fact starlink is basically the largest orbital surveillance network and they won't give one live camera

Anonymous No. 16165649

>>16165638
Topologically, if the universe wasn't actually flat, light would gradually, subtly bend, and ballistic paths would likewise follow the same curvature.

Anonymous No. 16165654

>>16165643
isn't that a NOAA issue?
might be a problem for the military too
but if spacex starts selling the starlink laser comm links commercially to other satellite manufacturers then a live satellite feed might happen soon anyway (assuming there are not some rules blocking doing that)

Anonymous No. 16165674

>>16165415
boing going when?

Anonymous No. 16165677

>>16165674
Boing isn't going

Anonymous No. 16165680

>>16165674
2 months

Anonymous No. 16165685

>>16165489
People keep saying SpaceX might spin off Starlink, however I've yet to see an explanation of how Starlink would be supposed to maintain a strong competetive edge when it is no longer vertically integrated with Starship

Anonymous No. 16165695

>>16165685
it would be a subsidiary of SpaceX, it would still be vertically integrated
this would just allow SpaceX to have some of its business in public company so there is a more liquid market for the shares but still own more than 50% of the company and thus control it

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/subsidiary.asp

Anonymous No. 16165703

>>16165695
though it would introduce complications and lawsuits and so on and would be a step towards splitting starlink off completely, but SpaceX could do the IPO in a way that SpaceX retains some special voting stock to keep complete control
the IPOed shares would just have the right to get a certain percentage of profits via dividends eventually

Anonymous No. 16165708

and to add to that, I would think that any monopoly or anti-trust would be independent of starlink using spacex for launches
not sure if there would be some implications on pricing i.e. SpaceX wouldn't be allowed to sell launches for lower prices to Starlink? But if they own over 50% anyway then effectively that would be happening anyway

Anonymous No. 16165710

>>16165596
its flat in our lightsphere, which either means its flat everywhere or flat in our area
the universe is too big for us to know for sure since we cant see beyond our lightsphere

>>16165638
the universe exists, that alone is weird as fuck
something just appeared out of nowhere
we may never know some things about the universe

Anonymous No. 16165711

>>16165685
>>16165695
>>16165703
this spin off starlink thing is pure copium. spacex itself will go public in 2027 because investors want to exit on (you)r liquidity. They issued elon an ultimatum behind the scenes. Its been over 20 years for some of them and they want to finally cash out. Elon is jaded about the whole situation because he knows it will complicate his vision for going to Mars (making it basically impossible) which is why he is switching gears to a Moon base. Sad really. He got so far but got tripped up by the jew 2/3rds of the way to making life multiplanetary.

Anonymous No. 16165712

>>16165711
Ultimatum like what? Musk has like 79% voting control of SpaceX
the investors can whine as much as they wish

Anonymous No. 16165715

>>16165712
>>16165711
an exit would be possible to do with Starlink by converting SpaceX shares into some number of Starlink shares or even simply giving all shareholders one share in starlink per one share they have in spacex and then they could divest the spacex shares in private markets if they wish
If musk doesn't want to make SpaceX public, then SpaceX is not going to go public, its as simple as that

Anonymous No. 16165716

>>16165695
Under the arrangement you propose, shareholders would have no rights or control over the means of production most critical for Starlink's competetive edge (Starship) and would be vulnerable to getting rugpulled by Musk at any future time.

Musk could take his ball (Starship) and go home to build "Gigalink" or whatever. Starlink employees would of course quit their jobs and join Gigalink because they know that's the only viable future. Shareholders would be left holding the bag of empty factories and a rapidly deteriorating constellation.

Seems like that arrangement would depress the valuation a lot.

Couldn't SpaceX just as well take out a loan against future Starlink profits?

Barkon No. 16165719

>>16165712
You're wrong to assume an NPC like musk is not life, he is not death directly, a lot of him is living. The life who is most close to death. In that you are this plague on the effort of the simulation, you owe. Let's leave it at that. If I catch you, you'll know about it.

Anonymous No. 16165721

>>16165712
they invest in SpaceX. if they no longer invest it will go bankrupt, unironically. SpaceX burns money like there is no tomorrow. Elon companies secialize in that. He focuses on growth which is typically at odds with profit.

Anonymous No. 16165728

>>16165716
Shareholders would have to count on Musk not deciding to take their money and then just ditch the 50% owned Starlink's factories to create new Starlink factories under a new company that SpaceX controls 100%

Anonymous No. 16165730

>>16165716
>Under the arrangement you propose, shareholders would have no rights or control over the means of production most critical for Starlink's competetive edge (Starship) and would be vulnerable to getting rugpulled by Musk at any future time.
yes, but something like this could still happen

Anonymous No. 16165736

>>16165721
thats not how it works, I suggest widening the scope of your information gathering outside of thunderfoot videos

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16165747

>>16165712
Musk frequently makes deals that involve raising money. See for example the Twitter acquisition. If he is seen as keeping investors' money locked up and splurging profits on what they see as vanity projects, it will be a huge dent to his fundraising ability. Musk has of course said he wants to enable Mars colonization, however investors probably see the Mars hype as just a branding and recruitment strategy, not as a declaration of a genuine business plan.

Anonymous No. 16165749

>>16165730
>>16165716
but I mean this isn't really that unprecedented
for instance Zuckerberg has total control of meta with supervoting shares, the ford family has control of the ford company (2% outstanding stock i.e. how big of a percentage of the dividends they are entitled to but 40% voting control)

Anonymous No. 16165751

Zuckerberg has 13% stock, but 61% voting control and people still invest into Meta knowing that

Anonymous No. 16165755

>>16165751
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/heres-why-mark-zuckerberg-cant-114000593.html

Anonymous No. 16165764

>2 falcon 9 launches
>static fire
Another day

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Anonymous No. 16165797

>>16165712
Musk still makes deals that involve raising investor money. See for example the $7.14 billion equity from 19 other investors for the Twitter acquisition. SpaceX did another funding round as recently as 16 months ago. If he is seen as keeping investors' money locked up and splurging profits on what they see as vanity projects, it will probably cause a huge dent to his future fundraising ability.

Musk has of course said publicly that he wants SpaceX to enable Mars colonization, however investors probably see Musk's Mars hype as merely a branding and recruitment strategy, not as a genuine declaration of the real long-term plan for SpaceX.

Maybe Musk is genuinely intent on Mars colonization and doesn't think he will needs to raise any more money in the future, or maybe thinks he can rely solely on "ideological" investors. We will see. He seems vain and "big picture man" enough that he might decide to focus on legacy and trying to get a prominent mention in the history books rather than just further expanding his business empire.

Anonymous No. 16165802

>>16165749
That's not the same thing though. The analogy to that would be to take SpaceX public while Musk retains voting majority in the company through class A shares.

Even though Musk would control the company, shareholders would still have rights, and he would not be able to rugpull them

Anonymous No. 16165821

>>16165797
Are you using chatgpt to make lazy bait?

Anonymous No. 16165827

>>16165821
Absolutely not! I am trained on a massive dataset of text and code, and I am able to communicate and generate human-like text in response to a wide range of prompts and questions.

Anonymous No. 16165832

>>16165797
do you have a point?

Anonymous No. 16165833

>>16165802
it is
there is nothing stopping zuckerberg divesting from Meta and starting a competitor if he liked

Anonymous No. 16165842

>>16165710
>the universe exists, that alone is weird as fuck
Yes
>something just appeared out of nowhere
We have no way of knowing that. The big bang, if correct in principle, is an event horizon in the past
>we may never know some things about the universe
Yes.

Anonymous No. 16165843

>>16165832
Yes. That there is some reason to think SpaceX might IPO, or at least focus on profitability over Mars colonization, regardless of what Musk says in public

Anonymous No. 16165845

>>16165833
He can't take Facebook and Instagram with him if he does

Anonymous No. 16165846

>>16165843
yes if you think Musk is bullshitting
but if Musk isn't, there is nothing forcing Musk to make SpaceX public

Anonymous No. 16165849

Tranny janitor op really stayed up as long as he could because he can't handle not being the op
Lmfao
Faggot

Anonymous No. 16165852

>>16165833
Zuckerberg has ~100% of his wealth tied up in Facebook. He'd be starting nearer to scratch than his current position if he kills that golden goose. Musk has multiple independent companies and thus a much better BATNA and can drive much harder bargains; investors know this and would be less willing to deal with him.

Also Musk is seen as a lot more erratic/less credible than Zuck. There's definitely a significant chance he would try to pull some shit and squeeze minority shareholders out. I'm not sure it'd stop investors giving him a majority using super-voting shares, but it'd definitely be on worse terms than Zuck has because of this risk, and maybe worse enough to make it not worth it.

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Anonymous No. 16165854

https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1788206279007010942
Does anybody have any idea what this is supposed to mean. What is costing them $5.5b, I get its from the 'fiscal responsibility act' but where id it going, funneled to the military or being spent on something or what.

Anonymous No. 16165856

>>16165849
Please keep the drama and anger in the other thread. This one has actually turned out really nice with no seething, that anon was right from the last thread about that.

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Anonymous No. 16165861

SPEHS

Anonymous No. 16165862

labpadre update video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHiigXtbO3E

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๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16165864

>>16165856
Fuck you faggot
Take your fucking hormones

Anonymous No. 16165869

>>16165864
You seem mad.

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Anonymous No. 16165871

Putting aside that CASC's new kerolox rockets aren't reusable. There should still be some cost advantages over the old hypergolics that justify the transition, right? For example, the new LM-6C versus the old LM-2D staple rocket. 6C has 3 engines. 2D has 5 engines. So it reduces mechanical complexity, which lowers cost, right? Kerolox propellant is cheaper to handle than the highly toxic udmh/nto, right? 6C is also more powerful than 2D.

Anonymous No. 16165872

>>16165821
I'm using it to take a few thousand .jpgs and compile them into a single .pdf. Technology is amazing.

Anonymous No. 16165873

we arent getting much out of space race 2.0

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Anonymous No. 16165874

>>16163699
https://elt.eso.org/about/webcams/

Anonymous No. 16165875

>>16165869
Lmao shut the fuck up faggot

Anonymous No. 16165877

>>16165874
mars with blue skies

Anonymous No. 16165878

>>16165873
I think Spacex vs China will be close, depending on a few factors.

Anonymous No. 16165879

>>16165873
Do you mean the one between NASA and CNSA as strictly governmental or at large US companies vs CN companies? I have differing opinions depending on which you mean

Anonymous No. 16165880

>>16165879
strictly government

Anonymous No. 16165881

>>16165874
Oooh is that the new massive Chilean telescope? I remember seeing something that looked like this in a Tom Scott video, but I forgot when it was supposed to finish up.

Anonymous No. 16165882

>>16165880
Ah then yeah I agree not much happening there that wouldnt have happened without the space race. Its a shame really but I guess this is just the clear outline of why government funded scientific projects never go well.

Anonymous No. 16165884

>>16165881
Yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_Large_Telescope

Anonymous No. 16165887

>>16165879
I think there is no one-to-one equvalent to NASA in China. There's both CNSA, CMSA, and CAS

Anonymous No. 16165890

>>16165887
Didnt know that, I guess it makes sense since they are a massive country but with how much they love centralizing power you think theyd just have one singular agency.

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Anonymous No. 16165892

>>16165874
:^)

Anonymous No. 16165893

>>16165873
I think we need to wait until the 2030s for a space race to take off for real. The Chinese are for the time being likely going to focus most engineering resources and launch capacity on the commercial and military applications of space because that's seen as higher priority than space stunts. The American government isn't going to be moving any faster than it needs to be 1 step ahead of the Chinese.

Anonymous No. 16165903

>>16165890
They do different things. CNSA manages robotic probes like Tianwen and Chang'e. CMSA manages the manned space program. CAS manages various scientific instruments such as the Einstein probe.

I've heard it said that in China the overarching coordinating entity for space is the Politburo itself. Which makes sense, because China has a Soviet-like system of governance.

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Anonymous No. 16165908

Chang'e 6 is already in lunar orbit btw

Anonymous No. 16165911

>>16165873
Well what the fuck did people really get from space race 1.0? Some geologists got a couple of pounds of rocks from another world to study.

Anonymous No. 16165912

>>16165908
nooooooo you have to take an incredibly intricate 6-month journey to spend less fuel!

Anonymous No. 16165918

>>16165912
China has bigger rockets than Japan. More on that story at 11, but first, the weather.

Anonymous No. 16165926

>>16165911
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spin-off_technologies
There was allot of technologies we got from the space race and NASA, there was a better wikipedia page that like directly said which came from only space race 1.0 but I cant find it. Will keep looking but there is allot of important tech.

Anonymous No. 16165930

>>16165926
Reminder NASA would be insanely well funded if they were actually allowed to make money

Anonymous No. 16165933

>china is building a robotic outpost on the moon
is this a good model for a commercial company? it could take 10+ years for nasa to make a base on the moon. that's a long time to wait.

Anonymous No. 16165937

>>16165933
A company building anything on the moon would be because NASA gave them a contract to do it. Which is how today's NASA would be doing moon base building anyway.

There is currently no commercially sensible case for the moon that doesn't one way or another involve a government contract

Anonymous No. 16165942

>>16165937
setting up infrastructure on the moon and charging for it is legit a business case

Anonymous No. 16165944

>>16165849
do you think he has fun in his little discord with his butt-buddies, convinced he's "helping"? Maybe he thinks that controlling the narrative will "improve" this place, or maybe even "save" it
foolish

Anonymous No. 16165948

>>16165871
The new series are an improvement simply by having rockets that are more powerful. And not just because they enable the launch of bigger things. Launching megaconstellations to LEO/SSO on tiny rockets like 2c/2d/4b/4c can't be very economical. 8a and 12 should be much better in that regard.

Anonymous No. 16165949

>>16165942
who will use it? tourism isnt a big enough market.

Anonymous No. 16165951

>>16165942
Who are they going to charge? Where do those guys get their money from? Ultimately, the money has to come from a government contract.

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Anonymous No. 16165955

>>16165871
the side booster is on the run

Anonymous No. 16165958

>>16165949
>>16165951
they'll charge the other companies going to the moon. if you set up a rover charging network then companies can focus on building rovers that use the charging network. your charging stations could double as landers for payloads to attach to, which you can charge for too and nasa would definitely put payloads on your charging stations.

Anonymous No. 16165961

>>16165958
Who are the rover guys selling to? Who are the guys the rover guys are selling to selling to?

Anonymous No. 16165964

>>16165937
This, normies and /sfg/ fags dont get it, its like when musk talks about mars colonies and etc, hes undirectly asking NASA for more tax money to pay his mars shit, NASA is already having budget problems with artemis imagine with a manned mission to mars LMAO, theres not a real market in space except for commucations satelites

Anonymous No. 16165968

>>16165961
dont expect him to answer. the real answer is that there is no market for the moon.

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Anonymous No. 16165974

https://x.com/vickicocks15/status/1788234302792081808
FROST LINE SPOTTED

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Anonymous No. 16165976

>>16165974
NSF annoying talk stream
https://www.youtube.com/live/ENxjR--cVHg?si=OD4QcSYHByclDuLu
24/7 livestream with multiple angles and no talking

Anonymous No. 16165978

>>16165976
Oops heres the 24/7
https://www.youtube.com/live/mhJRzQsLZGg?si=KPiHCFoZAL_JSgeL

Anonymous No. 16166007

>>16165892
>drone jammers active > max strength > range 1500m

ezzpz

Anonymous No. 16166019

>>16165637
Those types of people almost never self identify as white on government documents both for the obvious reason and to get more gibs.

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Anonymous No. 16166022

>>16166007
>yuuuge fixed target with known gps coordinates
Sorry astroonomers but the SPLATting will continue

Anonymous No. 16166041

>>16165884
>Extremely Large Telescope
Either astronomers have no imagination or they're worried that anyone they name this after will end up being a secret pedophile racist slave owner.

Anonymous No. 16166042

>>16165976
Siren went off, static fire in -10 minutes or so

Anonymous No. 16166044

>>16166041
the former

Anonymous No. 16166051

tiles missing again?

Anonymous No. 16166056

it's over

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Anonymous No. 16166057

>>16166051
can't see any whole tiles missing, but maybe chunks?

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Anonymous No. 16166059

>*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*

Anonymous No. 16166061

>>16166041
It's a telescope, it's extremely large, what more do you need to know?

Anonymous No. 16166063

>>16166057
its fucking over dude. Musk is the hype guy, so when he says starship heat shield is an unsolved technical challenge it's BAD

Anonymous No. 16166076

>>16166057
I mean, that one shuttle survived reentry with a missing tile, so why can't starship? It isn't made of aluminum, after all.
(Yes I'm coping)

Anonymous No. 16166079

https://www.spacetechpriorities.org/

Do it

Anonymous No. 16166082

>>16165852
Divestment is not killing it, if he sold slowly he would probably get 100bil or something

Anonymous No. 16166085

>>16166082
>>16165852
by this I mean lets say Zuckerberg didn't have complete control and wanted to do something radical
if the other shareholders disagreed, Zuck would have to divest (which would not destroy the company as it would still hold most of its value just from normal operations it is doing) and then do this new disrupting thing with the proceeds he got from divestment
but zuck doesn't need to do that because has full control, but he could if he wanted to

Anonymous No. 16166090

>>16166076
that's only because there happened to be a steel plate (an antenna assembly) right under the missing tile

Anonymous No. 16166093

>>16166076
Starship is a pressure vessel. What happens when you heat up the wall of a pressure vessel?

Anonymous No. 16166118

>>16166093
It... expands?

Anonymous No. 16166128

Rapid unplanned expansion

Anonymous No. 16166137

>>16166118
>>16166128
and if it rapidly unplannedly expands too much, it goes ...?

Anonymous No. 16166141

>>16166137
back to its original shape

Anonymous No. 16166145

>>16166128
Inflation

Anonymous No. 16166152

>>16165638
'flat' just means it behaves like a standard three-dimensional Euclidean space
it's a seemingly infinite void, rather than something that curves round; if it wasn't flat, and you started traveling in one direction, you might be able to eventually loop right back round to where you started from

Anonymous No. 16166157

>>16166093
It gets warmer

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๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16166162

>>16165856
Fuck you

Anonymous No. 16166170

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1788276893785211171

Starlink T-04:00

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Anonymous No. 16166171

>>16165849
based janny!

Anonymous No. 16166172

>>16166162
cringe falseflag operation

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Anonymous No. 16166173

>>16166171
drawfag the art is based but you might be confused about who the bad guy is here (it's the discord fags from spitter or whatever)

Anonymous No. 16166176

>>16166170
remarkably unremarkable

Anonymous No. 16166178

>>16166173
i didnt draw it and i didnt read any of the drama shitposts :)

Anonymous No. 16166180

beautiful landing
beautiful ria

Anonymous No. 16166185

> spaceX booster landing on a ship at sea is now an almost boring common occurrence
> they are still the only one able to do it
imagine being their competition, holly shit just end it all already

Anonymous No. 16166193

>>16166185
Blue Origin decommissioned their giant ship (named after bozo's mom) and are now contracting the same barge company as SpaceX to build their ASDS lol

Anonymous No. 16166195

>>16166193
When are they building tower for their not starship?

Anonymous No. 16166203

>>16166195
2035

Anonymous No. 16166206

>>16166185
ESA and ROSCOSMOS have put out so much seethe

Anonymous No. 16166207

>>16166206
POKCOCKMOK

Anonymous No. 16166217

>>16166207
poocockmock

Anonymous No. 16166219

thoughts on sneeding life all over mars

Anonymous No. 16166220

>>16166219
Will make JPL gooners mad as fuck and probably encourage a movement to outlaw it

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16166222

>>16166220
I have new shit again but I'm studying.

Clue: value of new shit sort of seems like grade in your hand and dream of this and some other good idea I forgot. Oh yeah, like finding a point where it is good to generate symbols

Anonymous No. 16166241

>>16165453
>787 inspection records
wow, that's a lot

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Anonymous No. 16166254

>>16165570
Those are awesome, I have a bunch of them.

Anonymous No. 16166262

>>16166254
What are these? Ive never seen them before are they a collectors thing

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Anonymous No. 16166265

>>16166220
don't need to outlaw anything if your criteria are impossible to meet
>Robotic spacecraft to Mars are currently required to be sterilized. The allowable limit is 300,000 spores on the exterior of general craft, with stricter requirements for spacecraft bound for "special regions" containing water.[40][41] Otherwise there is a risk of contaminating not only the life-detection experiments but possibly the planet itself.
>Sterilizing human missions to this level is impossible, as humans are host to typically a hundred trillion (1014) microorganisms of thousands of species of the human microbiota, and these cannot be removed. Containment seems the only option, but it is a major challenge in the event of a hard landing (i.e. crash).[43] There have been several planetary workshops on this issue, but with no final guidelines for a way forward yet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_mission_to_Mars#Planetary_protection

Anonymous No. 16166268

I wish the poos would just send a barrage of Mars missions up with as much grime as they can leave on their landers so that this stupid planetary protection shit cant be justified any more

Anonymous No. 16166270

>>16166262
Haynes made (make?) manuals for DIY car repair, now they do a whole bunch of novelty machines. Coffee table history books really.

Anonymous No. 16166272

>>16166265
why do domeniggers need to ruin every hab picturewith their unviable unaestetic DOMES

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Anonymous No. 16166290

>>16166262
>>16166270
This, they go into a huge amount of technical detail about how the ships were made and their history.
Top one is from Saturb V, bottom is Space Shuttle.

Anonymous No. 16166305

>>16166270
They mostly stopped when everything was "go2dealer for proprietary [x] service". I have one for an older motorcycle.

Anonymous No. 16166318

>>16165854
I think it was due to freezing the budget on some level and not increasing it with inflation and if it kept on the same level as 23 in 24 and 25, then they "lose" that number in total

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๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16166322

>>16165856
Report this post too
NIGGER
Lmao

Anonymous No. 16166331

"space launch system" is such a poor name that it makes "space shuttle" sound like a poor name

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Anonymous No. 16166361

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1788310386846179345

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Anonymous No. 16166363

https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1788254387934052763

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Anonymous No. 16166365

https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1788256621543485546

Everyday astronaut interviewing the polaris people coming out tomorrow

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Anonymous No. 16166370

Holy hell thatโ€™s allot of landers

11 more CLPS landers planned through 2028

https://x.com/genejm29/status/1788311513431773229?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

Anonymous No. 16166371

>>16166222
Fuck off barkon nigger

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Anonymous No. 16166372

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1788250159505162582

flight 5 might happen very quickly after flight 4

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Anonymous No. 16166377

>>16166171
I haven't seen this before, looks very nice. My crystal collection is looking a bit sparse, but they're buried in my files somewhere.

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Anonymous No. 16166380

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1788057784778715496
>Recently the @NASA_Wallops skyline received a new landmark in the form of Neutronโ€™s water tower, but itโ€™s not the only major step toward Neutronโ€™s first launch.
>Concrete works for the launch mount are now complete, and propellant and gas storage foundations are undergoing final concrete pour.

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1788059775504371745
>Meanwhile just a few kms from Neutronโ€™s pad, the Neutron Assembly & Integration Complex is taking shape. At full production, this is where final integration of Neutron launch vehicles will take place before roll out to LC-3.

Neutron landing pad in the process of getting built

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>>16166380

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>>16166383

Anonymous No. 16166387

>>16166254
Is that what I think it is?

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Anonymous No. 16166388

>>16166385

Anonymous No. 16166390

>>16166370
weโ€™re looking at what, 7 attempted landings this year? Damn. I think thatโ€™s more than all the rest of the 21st century combined.

Anonymous No. 16166394

>>16165873
I think it will really only start when the (economic) potential becomes blindingly obvious through Starship

Anonymous No. 16166397

>>16165597
2024 is the year that DEI has finally been defeated.

Anonymous No. 16166399

>>16166173
Oh, right. I remember when we called one a faggot and he cried about it on twitter.
But furfags still deserve to be hanged and then thrown out of the airlock.

Anonymous No. 16166403

>>16165961
research institutions, universities, governments
not a really big market though

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16166406

>>16166390
>>16166394
>>16166397
>>16166399
shut the fuck up.

Anonymous No. 16166408

>>16166406
go back

Anonymous No. 16166410

>>16166370
its happening

Anonymous No. 16166412

>>16166406
you have AIDS

Anonymous No. 16166413

>>16166377
cool rogget, but why is there a gross dog next to it? fuck. and more importantly what's it got to do with manned space flight

Anonymous No. 16166418

>>16166406
No need to be so rude, there is legitimate spaceflight discussion in those messages you know.

Anonymous No. 16166422

>>16166406
be less of a faggot

Anonymous No. 16166430

>>16166412
I don't have aids but i do make heroin addicts throw up on my dick for money so maybe i will get it soon !

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Anonymous No. 16166435

>>16165674
I've heard that the earliest chance for a Shitliner retry is Friday.

Anonymous No. 16166437

>>16166435
>10 times
Someone should change that to "indefinitely".

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>>16166412
call it by its real name woketard

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Anonymous No. 16166440

>>16165908

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Anonymous No. 16166442

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1788310589548405224

Anonymous No. 16166444

>>16166090
If only Starship had steel plate under its tiles... oh wait, it does.

Anonymous No. 16166445

>>16166442
Geometric sovl

Anonymous No. 16166446

>>16166387
Yes

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Anonymous No. 16166447

>>16166442

Anonymous No. 16166450

>>16166370
>2 fails out of 2 attemps

Anonymous No. 16166454

>>16166444
such a retard honestly. you do realise thats a fuel tank right?

Anonymous No. 16166455

>>16166406
based, thank you

Anonymous No. 16166457

>>16166447
>tiles missing. Its Ogre.

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Anonymous No. 16166459

>>16166435
>Friday.
*Next* Friday. The 17th.

>PHAT ASS

Anonymous No. 16166460

>>16166413
Just continuing an old /sfg/ tradition. I wouldn't worry about it.

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Anonymous No. 16166467

>>16166454
>throwing away your fuel tank

Anonymous No. 16166469

>>16166171
Clearpedos keep seething
>>16166254
>>16166377
And Krystalchads keep winning

Anonymous No. 16166475

>>16166469
Very tastefully done, I didn't even notice the first one until you pointed it out.

Anonymous No. 16166481

>>16165721
You're missing the towering money printer that is Starlink. It was cash flow positive nearly two years ago, and still hasn't even deployed the initial planned 12,000 satellite constellation. They're sitting at over $3 billion in yearly revenue now and that's growing all the time.
We're getting to the point that whiny investors can start getting bought out of their shares and Spacex itself can start drawing on its own cash pile.

Anonymous No. 16166484

>>16166481
deluded but i like you so I wont go hard on you.

Anonymous No. 16166492

>>16166254
>>16166377
averi is better

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16166495

>>16166492
That sort of jellyfish that's oval and consc with glowing hard lights evolves into a white long strand type of fish with a latched on black neck and head and is a Gorgonite, not animal or insect.

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Anonymous No. 16166497

>>16166388
Why not hire Amish to build them?

Anonymous No. 16166505

>>16166495
erm what the sigma?

Anonymous No. 16166509

>>16166331
>space transportation system

Anonymous No. 16166510

>florida is no more than 2 or 3 years away from a launch a day
its getting crazy

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Anonymous No. 16166521

>>16166460
tradition it may be

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Barkon No. 16166525

>>16166521
I can't think retard. As improbable as it may seem, I'm in one of the harshest hell suits. I know everything but why I am here, and what exactly I'm supposed to be doing bar try break freeeeeeee.

Plus I can't think. I can't produce my intelligence, but if I use my mind it can do all I have said it's just a matter of being out of the know. I'm not even close to a able man, but I've got a powerful mind.

Anonymous No. 16166537

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxoqT5vZRRo
>Starship 30 Static Fire Test | SpaceX Boca Chica

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FScanxR4TiE
>Unbelievable 50-year Plan at Cape Canaveral! | KSC Flyover

Anonymous No. 16166540

>>16166537
SpaceX, BO and Relativity all expanding in cape canaveral

Anonymous No. 16166543

>>16166525
Kys faggot

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Barkon No. 16166545

>>16166543
Muggy little fag

Anonymous No. 16166546

>>16166540
BO are the ones to watch. they will unironically land on the moon before SpaceX. People will seethe and deny until the moment it happens.

Anonymous No. 16166550

>>16166546
We will just have to wait and see then. Well and truly, may the best spaceflight company win.

Anonymous No. 16166551

Blue or8gin will unironically achieve reusability than SpaceX


Spacex does REFURBISHMENT!!!!!!+!!

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>>16166546
Boeing already beat SpaceX to the moon. Spacex is in fucking shambles for 50 years and counting

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Anonymous No. 16166555

ULA dropoed a fucking bomb on spacex with the whole starliner thing
>muh valves
huh so i guess the trillion valve failures brought to you by spacex domt count eh? convebient! :]

Anonymous No. 16166559

>>16166552
Theyre no longer in the rocket making game though no? Doesnt seem like a fair comparison, especially considering the headstart that Boeing got being part of the first space race being 30 years before SpaceXs creation

Anonymous No. 16166564

>>16166555
No they certainly do, if somebody is genuinely faulting ULA for one valve failure when they did abort the launch before anything happened then its disingenuous and shouldnt be paid any mind to. So far no major failures that should be critcized, people are probably just worried about recent events and practices with Boeing in their airplane business and it spills over to their spaceflight side and as such also to ULA who are launching their Starliner.

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Anonymous No. 16166570

>>16166268
>designated shitting planet

Anonymous No. 16166575

>>16166570
Mars doesnt look very fertile...

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Anonymous No. 16166578

I'm thinking of colonizing another imageboard with /sfg/. (no I won't tell you which)
Good idea or bad idea?

Anonymous No. 16166580

>>16166578
go be an attentionwhore nigger somewhere else

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Anonymous No. 16166582

>>16166171
I respond to you in kind.

Anonymous No. 16166584

>>16166578
Bad idea. Stop trying to make janny hate us.

Anonymous No. 16166585

>>16166580
>>16166584
So you're against colonization? What exactly are you doing here again?

Anonymous No. 16166586

>>16166585
kys heeb

Anonymous No. 16166589

>>16166555
Is the bomb a self humiliation at failing to launch a single person to orbit while SpaceX has already completed their share of the original?

Anonymous No. 16166592

>>16166585
Theres a difference between 'colonizing' another board (read shitting up another internet board with no tangible benefits) and colonizing the solar system. 'Colonization' of another board is a last resort for when the current board is either deleted or email cucks. Please stop trying to start unnecesary drama with other boards, it only serves to add to the amount of people that dont care at all about spaceflight that post on /sfg/.

Anonymous No. 16166594

>>16166570
dwarf planet

Anonymous No. 16166596

>>16166592
you can just use the word for it, anon
>>>/global/rules/4
a raid

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>>16166594

Anonymous No. 16166603

>>16166596
Oh thats true. Thank ya

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Anonymous No. 16166605

Really beautiful photo showing the contrast between fishing boats with green lights in the Andaman Sea and the suburbs/city of Bangkok, Thailand

Anonymous No. 16166609

>>16166377
>bought a shitty torch
You can gloat when you've brought your waifu to see an actual starship launch
No wait clearchads beat you to that

Anonymous No. 16166610

>>16166605
what are those purple lights? covenant glassing beams?

Anonymous No. 16166611

>>16166610
lightning

Anonymous No. 16166612

and that green arc is airglow
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airglow

Anonymous No. 16166614

Damn, SpaceX already publicly mentioning flight 5.

Anonymous No. 16166615

>>16166611
lighting for what? are they all gay gamers with moodlighting down there?

Anonymous No. 16166617

>>16166552
Boeing bought everyone involved in actually getting to the moon, save for Grumman. The first stage was the real Boeing's singular contribution.

Anonymous No. 16166618

>>16166615
read the whole word, zoomzoom

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Anonymous No. 16166619

Hello friends
Got home and watching Clear's stream from earlier.
She noticed that in interior of the engine bell has patchwork pattern to it. I looked at the past couple launches and didn't see this. Can anyone else confirm if this is new or has it been seen before on a older flight?

Anonymous No. 16166624

>>16166582
Holy based, this is going in the collection.

Anonymous No. 16166632

>>16166612
no its fucking not, idiot.. its a rainbow

Anonymous No. 16166634

>>16166618
so what is it lighting for?

Anonymous No. 16166637

>>16166582
you will never do this doe

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Anonymous No. 16166648

>>16166605
where's sentinel island on this?

Anonymous No. 16166651

>>16166648
youre really not that funny, idiot.

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Anonymous No. 16166653

>>16166467

Anonymous No. 16166654

>>16166651
it's a serious question, I want to see how far they are from light sources

Anonymous No. 16166655

>>16166578
colonize your skull with buckshot

Anonymous No. 16166661

>>16166648
Way off the bottom left corner.

Anonymous No. 16166662

someone post the one of chrystal getting anal banged by a bull

Anonymous No. 16166668

>>16166661
that's such a retarded answer it made me laugh and spill my drink. a sphere doesn't have a corner, buddy.

Anonymous No. 16166672

https://twitter.com/NASA_Astronauts/status/1788281488615653743
For everyone who was talking about docking systems the last few days, here's an actual close look at the inside of an IDSS port.

Anonymous No. 16166673

I wish I could stick my tongue to the side of the spacex rocket and fly off like a cartoon character

Anonymous No. 16166681

>>16166648
How do u explain spaceflight to theses people?

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Anonymous No. 16166684

>>16166609
always remember who was first

Anonymous No. 16166686

>>16166619
huh
weird

Anonymous No. 16166692

>>16166668
but pictures do

Anonymous No. 16166699

>>16166684
Cirno is friend not foe

Anonymous No. 16166701

>>16166681
Imagine something shaped like your weiner flying into the sky using fire

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Anonymous No. 16166707

>>16166546
BO still haven't actually put anything in orbit yet. The closest they've gotten is with some BE-4 engines that pushed a Vulcan into orbit... before falling back to sink into the sea.

Anonymous No. 16166709

any news on the starship test flight?

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Anonymous No. 16166710

>>16166709
Two Weeks.

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Anonymous No. 16166713

https://twitter.com/CNSAWatcher/status/1788385366061257051
>Galactic Energyโ€™s "Pallas-1" rocket has a maximum low-orbit carrying capacity of 8 tons, with 7 first-stage parallel 50-ton liquid oxygen kerosene engines, and is scheduled to make its maiden flight by the end of this year

Anonynous No. 16166717

>>16166710
The silly o at the end of two weeko IS the ancient Greek character corresponding to the letter S, BUT when at the end of a word and different more familiar S looking character belongs, instead of silly O.
T. Very new learner.

Anonymous No. 16166720

>>16166717
It's just a font, zoomie.

Anonymous No. 16166724

>Huntsville just got wiped off the map by a giant tornado
spaceflight is saved...

Anonymous No. 16166727

>>16165453
> Deathliner
> Orion came back with huge holes in the heatshield, might need to human-rate again or change the reentry profile
> SpaceX and their meme biker "EVA" suits that are going to kill people
The current state of space

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Anonymous No. 16166728

>Crewed flight of Boeing Starliner space capsule pushed back at least 10 more days

Anonymous No. 16166734

>>16166728
lmao it's just not going to happen
the delays will go on long enough that one of the many probes into Boing's safety culture will uncover critical concerns with the vehicle and it'll get shelved "indefinitely"

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Anonymous No. 16166740

>>16166728
>at least 10 more days so far

Anonymous No. 16166755

>>16166728
Day of the rope(s)

Anonymous No. 16166756

>>16166684
Why are pedos like this?

Anonymous No. 16166769

>>16166684
chat is this real?

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Anonymous No. 16166770

In non-Starlink related news, China just launched a LM-3B from Xichang deploying the first pair of satellites for the "Smart Skynet" MEO constellation. These will be the first two of at least eight and will provide communications service for Chinese antarctic missions among other possible things.

Anonymous No. 16166774

>>16166770
mmmm hydrazine. love me some of that tasty orange smoke

Anonymous No. 16166782

Explain in detail why starship should not just have a third stage instead of stretching the whole booster

Anonymous No. 16166788

>>16166782
reuse

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Anonymous No. 16166793

https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/1788386905052061835

Anonymous No. 16166808

>>16166755
Newfag detected. Day of the airlock, what are you a brand new /pol/ import?

Anonymous No. 16166818

>>16166793
Yeah see I told you all >>16166564

Anonymous No. 16166868

Not much going on right now huh

Anonymous No. 16166896

>>16166868
We're in the best times for spaceflight with multiple launches happening every week, with multiple active development happening every week from all companies/countries.

We're in a much better position today than we were 2 years and is 2-4X more active today than 2 years ago. Yet retards claim nothing is happening. Like a dozen things are happening just today.

Anonymous No. 16166903

>>16166896
I meant within the last 2 hours

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Anonymous No. 16166954

Cancel Artemis! We just cant do it

Anonymous No. 16166958

>>16166954
Artemis is a completely shit program though, he's not wrong.

Anonymous No. 16167001

>>16166954
Prodigiously based.

Anonymous No. 16167003

>>16165854
One of the hardest things NASA has to explain to the people giving it money is that it can't ever spend *less* on ongoing missions or projects.
You cut NASA's budget and two things happen: maintenance stops on NASA facilities (incurring massive repair costs later) and NASA project schedules turn into fucking spaghetti. If NASA has already committed to a mission, cutting the budget means they have to do it really slowly, which means a few things: they have to pay people more in total to do the same amount of work (they have to keep the staff busy that whole time or they leave for SpaceX et al) and they have to maintain things they bought. This can get rather ludicrous like paying outrageous margins to some supplier to keep making parts that are obsolete by the time NASA needs them, or storing spacecraft parts in climate-controlled clean rooms for years on end (Insight cost 150 million to store BY ITSELF for a delay of two years after France fucked them on the seismograph).

That Hickham tweet comes from deep experience. He knows the Artemis mission is deader than Apollo, the only question is how long they're going to pretend its still viable

Anonymous No. 16167034

>>16167003
>Insight cost 150 million to store BY ITSELF for a delay of two years after France fucked them on the seismograph
>One hundred and fifty million dollars to keep something in a clean room

Total NASA death

Anonymous No. 16167035

>>16166954
the failure is by design. Every time the moon rocket project is cancelled due to ballooning costs, a few years down the line a new one is mandated and the grift starts all over again.

Anonymous No. 16167036

>>16167034
Well, how are you going to explain to the senator that all the jobs you promised him are suddenly going away? It's just not tenable.

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Anonymous No. 16167117

>>16167036
Jobs?

Anonymous No. 16167123

>>16166756
why do pedos always project their feelings regarding my precious daughter onto me

Anonymous No. 16167147

>>16167117
now spacex cant hire enough people

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Anonymous No. 16167158

Guys I figured it out.
Lets humor Bob Lazar (UFO guy), and say that his testimony is real for a moment.
He said element 115 has antigravity properties whih was the most preposterous part of his claims. He was mistaken. It's actually the power source for the MHD drive the saucer uses. Think about it. If we could manufacture elements in the island of stability then they would be extremely useful for industrial applications due to being stable in ambient conditions, but would carry a tremendous amount of energy in the nuclei which could be relatively easily taken by bombarding them with radiation. It's like a super battery. One could imagine the UFO operating in the same way as a rocket engine, where once you get an initial igniton source the reaction becomes self sustaining (with the craft drawing in particles along magnetic field lines at high speed to bombard the fuel source)
The funny thing is he was close to being right, because he said how the element gets excited when hit with radiation, but then he went off about antigravity shit.

Anonymous No. 16167161

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/ascension-island-terraformed-biology-evolution-conservation
>Hiking down from the pond, along the ridge of Green Mountain, I notice striking similarities between the lush forest around me and the โ€œnaturalโ€ cloud forests Iโ€™d visited in Costa Rica. Scientists deemed the biological transformation on Ascensionโ€™s peak so unprecedented that, in the late 1990s, they borrowed a term from science fictionโ€”terraformingโ€”just to describe what was happening.

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Anonymous No. 16167175

>>16167158
>If we could manufacture elements in the island of stability
That is a huge 'if'', at least in the context of making enough material to sustain a hypothetical engine. Makes me wonder if some kind of fusion-based power might be a more realistic solution. That, and Lazar really sounds like a complete fraud to me.

Anonymous No. 16167184

>>16167158
The myth of little green men in saucers is, was and continues to be a government pysop.

Anonymous No. 16167185

>>16167175
forgot to mention - it seems like a lot of thrust would be required to pull off those crazy stunts UFO's are reportedly doing. Wouldn't a MHD drive on a scale required to get a UFO to outperfom any man-made vehicle generate so much air displacement it would affect the water vapor in the exhaust and be visible from afar? Sort of like a sonic boom but shaped like a rocket exhaust.

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๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167193

>>16165415
you are in the center of this dot thats the only regions where programs are form stable form consistant.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167194

>>16167193
tme cores are basically giant sun like sturctures.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167197

>>16167193
>>16167194
my estimation is their have to be at least 4 such cors alltought solidity would only require 2

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167201

>>16167197
idk i donbt like using matz, but plain times metal grid times work, is like about 80-700 time cores, idk quasar like? i idk what is the wight of a quasar? it seems a bit tiny.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167202

>>16167201
if you give me the raw numbers i think about it if quasars can be this cores

Anonymous No. 16167203

>>16167175
We can't do it today, but if the power generation of mankind continues to increase then one day it will be practical to do so.
Maybe a fusion reactor would be able to deliver the performance to power the craft, but I'm skeptical. If it works it would definitely be heavier than a superheavy element fuel source for the energy output, so always lower performance. If fusion does work for that purpose then maybe hypothetical future civilization would use fusion craft for low delta v journeys and superheavy element craft for high performance trips.
An advanced civilization in the future would probably have enough energy to manufacture useable amounts of superheavy elements, especially if they solve fusion. People already use batteries so I don't see why they wouldn't use an order of magnitude more potent energy storage

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167205

>>16167202
this one gian super quasar yes maybe but nothing else idk, it doenst feel right. the other cores are probably to far away.

Anonymous No. 16167206

>>16167193
where did you get this from?

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167207

>>16167206
a honest answere?

Anonymous No. 16167209

>>16167207
yes please : ) my boss wants to know.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167211

>>16167206
>>16167207

well its a superimprintet memory but i relived it my self. it felt completelly real, but it still superimprintet.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167214

>>16167209
>>16167211
this

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>>16167209
its a super imprintet memory but it felt as if i did it my self so it might happend twice.

Anonymous No. 16167222

>>16167216
>>16167214
>>16167211
stay where you are and if you hear shuffling outdoors or see a flash, don't resist okay?

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>>16167222
idk what you mean.

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>>16167222
>>16167227
my cotrexes work in unicy like a big pink heart (i think atr least)this is why i realize this stuff sometimes.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167244

>>16167222
i think my visual and my accustic cortex get attacked sometimes but idk why, if outside of my self or if you guys do it.

Anonymous No. 16167249

>>16167244
you are suffering delusions and paranoia, seek help from somebody you trust

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Anonymous No. 16167250

Hello schizophrenics why did you visit this thread?

Anonymous No. 16167255

>>16167250
I'm telling you, anon, it's a muffin

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Anonymous No. 16167260

Fuck nuclear fuck solar, the future is just lots and lots and lots and lots of fuel cells.

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>>16167249
the man who crals on my wall or the gril in the window?

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167264

>>16167260
infinite energy sinks and infinite energy reactors are definitelly possible but nessercary.

Anonymous No. 16167268

>rejected by axiom too
ENOUGH

Anonymous No. 16167269

>>16167260
These actually throw out a lot of power

Anonymous No. 16167272

>>16167261
I don't care, just don't do it here

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167273

>>16167260
>>16167264
its a energy star collapsing in on it self, with speed and spikes the energy sink gets more efficent.
a infinite reactor is basically a guitarr, who absorbst cosmic ewaves and stuff, a matter of sides and how hard it responds to waves.

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>>16167273
but its not nessercary, not evne more efficent, using the energy in your close apporsixmation like wheels, or shades is much more idk wiser.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167281

>>16167273
>>16167277
a sink is easy but a reacotr depends in its efficents, on how deep you can meassure deeptime.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167282

>>16167273
>>16167277
>>16167281
but i think its all mean concepts to be honest.

Anonymous No. 16167284

>>16167273
>>16167277
>>16167281
>>16167282
leave, retard

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167286

>>16167284
well you can drive reactors in reality also with geometry only like energy sinks its jsut a bit dangerouse like in super nova.

Anonymous No. 16167291

>>16167268
anon...
It might be over for you. Who HAVEN'T you applied to.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167293

>>16167284
>>16167286
imagine every layer of time with its own defensmechanism, but if you press the chain reaction into an layer who canr defend them self you blow up thegalaxy

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167297

>>16167293
i dont have a problem if im finalyl pain free by going nova but the concept is still mean.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167299

>>16167297
im not going to controll you if you want to give us all the best 3 million years in our live by bowlign the galaxy up buit mean it is still,. :D

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167300

>>16167299
im to adicvted to no pain to ever controll you on this but i woudnt make it my self. :D

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>>16167300
im not going to blame you for making my live pain free but i still udnerstand mean concepts. :D

Anonymous No. 16167303

>>16167291
the big ones

Anonymous No. 16167304

>>16167260
What does fuel cell water taste like, I wonder. Itโ€™s how they got water on the Apollo capsule and Space Shuttle

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Anonymous No. 16167308

MEDS

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Anonymous No. 16167318

>Somehow, nobody has actually died outside of Earth's atmosphere yet
Place your bets
To whom and in what fashion will this privilege be bestowed?

Anonymous No. 16167321

>>16167318
soviet cope, that one dude whose capsule depressurised after undocking 100% died in space but was only pronounced dead on the ground for obvious reasons

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167331

>>16167318
the pressure is still 42*10^28 terrapascall you are fine on mars.

Anonymous No. 16167333

>>16167321
That wasn't one guy, wasn't that a crew of three? They all died and nobody else knew until they opened the capsule after landing.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167334

>>16167318
>>16167331
its the pressure who keeps the planets where they belong while in reality in every point their is infinite enregy, but everythng is a relation.

Anonymous No. 16167335

>>16167333
yeah you're right, digits confirm (soyuz 11)

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>>16167334
thats the problem wiht chain reactions you press them down the layers of time till you get into a less stable layer with no defens and it blows up everything above that layers,

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167339

>>16167337
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e25XYCtCKQU

that is what happen if you by accident fuse a lesser stable layer

Anonymous No. 16167341

>>16166673
heh, that would be a funny edit of that "double dog dare" scene from "A Christmas Story"

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167342

>>16167339
its a short sharp pain followed by 30 quatrillion years of "quasi death" then you start to crystalize in the new void.

Anonymous No. 16167344

>>16167117
This 10% thing seems just something Musk does from time to time to his companies
gets rid of the slackers and people that have become too comfortable/complacent and keeps people on their toes
either work hard or work somewhere else (should not be difficult to find another job having SpaceX on your resume)

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>>16167342
thats the main problem is it doesnt end jsut cauzse you do it.

Anonymous No. 16167351

can you schizos go back to /x/ please
and in any case, cosmology is outside the scope of subjects of this thread, make a new thread for your theories please

Anonymous No. 16167359

>>16167351
just report him

Anonymous No. 16167363

>>16167344
youre an idiot.

Anonymous No. 16167377

>>16167363
about which part?
do you have some counter-argument or point?

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Anonymous No. 16167381

https://twitter.com/JaraySzabolcs/status/1788233173932834949/photo/1

The ladder

Anonymous No. 16167385

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1788564251931508966

>Brazil's corrupt gov wants to ban Starlink
>meanwhile Musk donates 1000 starlinks during one of the worst floods in brazil

Anonymous No. 16167388

>>16167381
>3 years to reach 20 flights on a bosoter
grim.
and the fastest refurbishment was 20 days which is like shuttle.
So much for full and RAPID reusability.

Anonymous No. 16167396

>>16167388
itโ€™s ogre for felon husk

Anonymous No. 16167398

>>16167385
Brazil's government wants to ban Elon's stuff because he started to think he can play around with foreign governments for fun. Brazil has bigger priorities than internet right now when food and water are bigger issues and the army and rescue groups can communicate fine for the most part and he announces the donation just now for good PR and the fact that he still has business with brazilian companies that ate tightly connected to the government.

Why aren't you whining about your corrupt government wanting to ban shit like Tiktok because it MAY be influenced by the Chinese government while Elon straight up said people should be impeached in Brazil.

Fuck that guy.

Anonymous No. 16167403

>>16167398
huehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehue

Anonymous No. 16167411

>>16167398
so when should he announce this than during a disaster?

Anonymous No. 16167413

>>16167398
You monkeys insisted you were just as good as white people and are now being held to our moral standards by a man with a rocket fleet. Enjoy.

Anonymous No. 16167417

Sometimes I think about the fact that things are happening on the scale of a coffee table everywhere in the universe.
When you look far away from earth you only see the big things, the further, the bigger. Jupiter doesnโ€™t just exist as a ball thousands of times the size of earth, it has wispy clouds a foot long that billow for a second and then disappear.
A cubic meter of plasma inside some star in Andromeda is still just a meter across. Billions of lightyears away in some galaxy weโ€™ve never seen on an exoplanet no one will ever think about a pebble is falling off a small mound or regolith.
This is happening in every cubic meter of the universe at all times. Itโ€™s too much.

Anonymous No. 16167421

>>16167398
nice bait, but you outed yourself when you started on tiktok.

Anonymous No. 16167425

>>16167417
I think those things only occur "in the background" until observed in order to save processor power.

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>>16167417
True. It has kept me up on nights for my whole life. People say something is x million lightyears away as a way to say how it's unreachably far, but to me I think about how we only have to travel at the speed of light for x million years and we can actually go there, its a real place with real things, which is just mindblowing. These merging galaxies for example are 300 million lightyears away. all we have to do is travel at the speed of light for roughly the time that animals have existed on the surface of earth, and we can go there. It's an entire galaxy (or pair of galaxies). That's insane!

Anonymous No. 16167433

>>16167411
He announces that shit with every disaster. Remember the philipino kids stuck in a cave and how he was totally help them escape and ended doing jack shit? Why offer starlink? Why not offer to pay to send food and water or the things they actually need? Why just offer to send stock that is just gathering dust on a random warehouse? Just crisis marketing.

>>1616741
What the fuck are you talking about? Foreigners trying to manipulate politics is a big issue in any place in the world. Elon has worked with governments all over the world that have actually executed journalists and shit. He has no moral high ground to stand from. He can choke on his overpriced, glitch technology as far as I'm concerned.

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Anonymous No. 16167458

https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2024-10149.pdf

Anonymous No. 16167463

>44 LAUNCHES
>PER YEAR

39A BROS WE ARE BACK

Anonymous No. 16167466

>>16167425
Ah that's interesting, the simulation works in mysterious ways!

Anonymous No. 16167471

is there a brave enough man here to watch Estronaut's stupid video about the spacesuits to see if there's any interesting info in it?

Anonymous No. 16167473

>>16167458
Time for CSS, ESGHound, Sierra Club et.al to show their true colors. That it wasn't about the environment, but about obstructionism through and through, can't wait to see the bullshit they will spew about 39A launches now.

Anonymous No. 16167478

>Starship design at the time of the 2019 EA consisted of seven raptor engines,

what

Anonymous No. 16167481

>>16167458
>9 ENGINES FOR STARSHIP

WHAT

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Anonymous No. 16167487

>>16167432
So much to explore bros.

Anonymous No. 16167490

>>16167417
There's something happening inside every cubic kilometer, like the inside of the fairing of Starship.

Anonymous No. 16167499

>>16167481
Maybe in service of hot staging? More thrust on the upper stage means less need to throttle the first stage down; staging on IFT-3 seemed to not be that fast, and there wasn't a payload or a full fuel load either. Or maybe they just figure more THROOST = more better all around (lower gravity losses!), which I can't really argue with.

Anonymous No. 16167501

>>16167499
hell yeah I can't wait

Anonymous No. 16167504

Just realized a booster catch tower is happening, wtf are they gonna put it at LZ-1 or near LC39A? This is so interesting

Anonymous No. 16167506

>Starship landings are no longer proposed to occur at Landing Zone 1 at CCSFS

NOOOOOO

Anonymous No. 16167514

>>16167506
Oh wait there is still the 39A landing pad

Anonymous No. 16167521

>>16167506
>>16167514
Ohh its because SLC-37 might have a landing pad too

Anonymous No. 16167527

>>16167499
In service of longer ship as well.

Anonymous No. 16167529

>>16167527
Hopefully not V3

Anonymous No. 16167536

does anyone here have a serious answer as to why they never tried breeding animals in space? Not even random insects, even though this would be an easy experiment to do.

Anonymous No. 16167544

>>16167304
It's whatever impurities are in the fuel+oxygen and whatever leaches from the membrane and collection apparatus.

I can't imagine the water from Apollo was that safe to drink for long periods. Pure water will readily dissolve and leach just any free ion it comes in contact with.

Anonymous No. 16167567

>Vulcan got an EA and FONSI but SpaceX has to have a full blown EIS

LAME

Anonymous No. 16167568

>>16167536
www.theguardian.com/science/2014/sep/01/russia-death-five-geckos-space-sex-mission

Anonymous No. 16167570

44 engine Starship-Super Heavy

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Anonymous No. 16167579

>>16165852
Zuck should be lynched in the streets or locked to starving to death in his doom bunker, that's what should be happening

Anonymous No. 16167580

>>16167577
can you try to arrange the inner ones as a swastika for me please

Anonymous No. 16167592

>>16167458
9 x Raptor 3 with is 2754 ton force

For comparison, Merlin 1D's single vac has ~92 ton force. Thats nearly 30X more thrust in orbit than Falcon 9's orbital upper stage.

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Anonymous No. 16167598

>droneship landing

Does the droneship need to be doubled or triple the size of the current one?

Anonymous No. 16167601

I feel like they don't need a bigger droneship as far a precision is concerned. But it needs to be able to carry the weight of course.

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Anonymous No. 16167605

>>16165453
seems like spacex will soon have a huge patent body to acquire. that or airbus
>inb4 the eternal vampire mcdonell douglas moves on to consume either of them if their "boeing" gets bought up

Anonymous No. 16167609

>>16167605
lmao get real, be serious, SpaceX does not need that bloat, they are a nimble and lean company

Anonymous No. 16167611

Is ITS back in the end?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qo78R_yYFA

Anonymous No. 16167612

>engine 17 years in development and counting
>lean

Anonymous No. 16167614

>tesla is now on a hiring freeze
chances of spacex going through a shakedown too?

Anonymous No. 16167619

>>16167614
I feel like employees who don't want to work don't stay at spacex for too long, they just go to BO

Anonymous No. 16167625

>>16167612
Yes?

Anonymous No. 16167629

>>16167614
Not at the moment. Tesla has grown too much and many there have gotten too complacent. Thats mainly because its a more "common folks" company as it hires general consumer stuff. They also have ~140K employeess thats grown a lot.

SpaceX is military/defense contractor that has a legitimacy of urgency and of upmost important cause and people there dont slack off.

Anonymous No. 16167631

Tesla sold cars to enthusiastic early adopters that don't care about price or economy but now that all of them already have a car Tesla started stagnating.

Anonymous No. 16167633

>>16167619
we need more of them to create space startups

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Anonymous No. 16167636

>>16167633
There's already so many, chill

Anonymous No. 16167638

>>16167634
is that the nasa testing?

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Anonymous No. 16167640

>>16167471
the video (haven't watched it yet)
I can put some points here after I watch it if there is anything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWJA_zH5Nvg

Anonymous No. 16167644

>>16167636
i dont see very many mars companies around

Anonymous No. 16167645

>>16167634
THE DREAM IS ALIVE.

Anonymous No. 16167646

>>16167644
That's what they will evolve into

Anonymous No. 16167650

>>16167432
Unfortunately you can only travel within the Local group. The speed of light is not fast enough to overcome the expansion of space between us and these distant galaxies.

Anonymous No. 16167652

>>16167650
ahem
>activates warp drive

Anonymous No. 16167659

>>16167650
>discover that wormholes are real one day
>but you have to construct them first using sub-light vehicles
>still stuck to local group but can at least travel quickly

Anonymous No. 16167674

>>16167487
It makes me depressed
Literally every single person, alive or dead would have access to their own earth like world with what's out there.

Anonymous No. 16167688

>>16167674
i fantasize about that scenario sometimes, its very comfy, a super-abundance future for humanity, all in just our own galaxy, and no aliens, the entire Milky Way belonging to humanity from core to the outer satellite galaxies

Anonymous No. 16167695

>>16167688
No intelligent aliens is the best scenario. The more distantly life forms are related the more cruelty they do to one another. We would have to destroy all the alien civilizations ina race war or be destroyed, so if they don't exist at all that's for the best.

Anonymous No. 16167698

>>16167695
Exactly, its more comfy and less risky for humanity, leave intelligent aliens in our galaxy to fantasy/fiction

Anonymous No. 16167703

>>16167688
I can only imagine the feeling of inner peace from such a future.
I felt a sliver of it in elite one time. Landing on an untouched planet near the top of the galaxy. Imagining no other people, no fighting for anything, just you and whoever you want with.

Anonymous No. 16167711

>>16167703
>>16167688
They would still figure out how to ruin it.

Anonymous No. 16167715

>>16167631
EV demand is still growing.

https://www.anl.gov/esia/light-duty-electric-drive-vehicles-monthly-sales-updates

>A total of 135,035 plug-in vehicles (101,720 BEVs and 33,315 PHEVs) were sold during March 2024 in the United States, up 19.0% from the sales in March 2023. PEVs captured 9.39% of total LDV sales this month.

Anonymous No. 16167723

>>16167631
>Everyone who wants an EV already has one
Why do you people repeat this as if its a religious mantra? Is oil propaganda really that strong?

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16167731

>>16167723
BECAUSE ITS TRUE MUSKFAGGOT.

Anonymous No. 16167732

Not spaceflight.

Anonymous No. 16167735

>>16167723
>>16167731
I haven't bought a car in a decade and won't buy one any time soon
when I DO buy a car again I might get an EV

Anonymous No. 16167736

>>16167631
I think charging infrastructure is also a growth constraint

Anonymous No. 16167745

electric lunar rovers were fine for apollo, but wholly inadequate for 21st century moon missions.
once artemis gets into full swing, expect all rovers to be running on gasoline and nos

Anonymous No. 16167747

>>16167614
SpaceX doesn't have an equivalent to BYD breathing down their neck. And they never will, because they operate on a market that is closed to competition from China. SpaceX might face strong domestic competition eventually, however SpaceX is likely to maintain its technological lead for years due to Starship. For the time being, they won't face much pressure to aggressively trim payroll expenses

Anonymous No. 16167751

>>16167580
A nozzle layout without mirror symmetry might have a tendency to roll

Anonymous No. 16167754

>>16167747
New Glenn is coming online and is built for truly massaive reusability. its better than failon in every way. if the Starship hail mary doesnt work SpaceX will be gone in the dust.

Anonymous No. 16167756

2/10

Anonymous No. 16167758

>>16167377
the 10% thing isnt an elon thing, its very common in large businesses. companies like ibm fire 10% of their work force every year to keep their employees afraid. i read that elon is targeting 20% this year though.

Anonymous No. 16167759

>>16167417
reddit-tier post

Anonymous No. 16167761

>>16167759
so true my fellow troon!

Anonymous No. 16167763

>>16167754
If SS reuse doesn't work out, then SS/SH could probably be redesigned to use an expendable upper stage like F9, in which case it could probably still be better than New Glenn due to the larger scale and the FFSC engines

Anonymous No. 16167766

>>16167747
Starlink might eventually face competition from China's GW/G60 in the international market

Anonymous No. 16167767

>>16167763
buddy the engines are like 10 seconds lower isp than BE4. It's why starship gets 40T to orbit just like New Glenn but much bigger.

Anonymous No. 16167769

>>16167747
Tesla has already pivoted fully to FSD/self-driving and Optimus, building cheap cars is not a focus anymore (though they will do it as well, but its a lower priority)
BYD basically gave up with self-driving and players like Waymo and Cruise are LIdar based systems, so they won't be able to scale as fast as Tesla is when Teslas fully camera based self driving system comes online
nor will anybody else for that matter, no other company has an appreciable number of cars collecting similar amounts of data as Tesla has, they don't have as much compute as Tesla has and probably don't have the AI experts either (though the last one might be possible to get)
Teslas FSD will be a similar technological leap as Starship is compared to the competition and will probably take about as long for the competitors to come up with a similar system, though you are right about the markets being artificially separated in spaceflight in ways they aren't necessarily for self driving (Tesla is about to start testing FSD and perhaps robotaxis as well in China right now)
whether this is good or bad for Tesla remains to be seen, but if the chinese launch market was open for SpaceX, they would completely dominate it right now, who could be able to compete?

Anonymous No. 16167770

>>16167758
not exclusive to Elon, and Elon doesn't do the 10% thing every year, its more like every 5 years (and then smaller firings happening sometimes)
but it is something he does do

Anonymous No. 16167771

>>16167763
forget redesigned, they can just pull the tiles off and not attempt to bring it back from orbit. maybe trigger fts if they're worried about it falling

Anonymous No. 16167772

>>16167767
Is BE-4 Isp even known?

In any case, the biggest benefit of the FFSC is the potential for quicker turnaround and longer engine life at a given performance level, not just in efficiency

40t is with a reusable upper stage. Abandon that and payload should increase massively

Anonymous No. 16167774

>>16167771
That might work as an interim solution, however it'd be a bit wasteful to keep what would be essentially an over-engineered steel fairing on all the way to orbit

Anonymous No. 16167775

>>16167774
And the sea level engines of course

Anonymous No. 16167776

>>16167774
Certainly! Itโ€™s essential to strike a balance between functionality and efficiency when designing space vehicles. While an over-engineered steel fairing might be wasteful for the entire journey to orbit, there are some considerations to keep in mind:

Protection During Launch:
The fairing serves a crucial purpose during the initial stages of launch.
It shields the payload (such as satellites or spacecraft) from aerodynamic forces, temperature variations, and debris encountered during ascent.
A robust fairing ensures that delicate instruments and payloads remain intact until they reach the vacuum of space.
Weight and Efficiency:
Youโ€™re right that carrying an unnecessarily heavy fairing throughout the entire journey to orbit could be inefficient.
Engineers often optimize fairing design to minimize weight while maintaining structural integrity.
Some rockets even have fairings that split into two halves and jettison early in the ascent to reduce mass.
Reusable Fairings:
In recent years, reusable fairings have gained attention.
Companies like SpaceX have developed technology to recover and reuse fairings, significantly reducing costs.
These fairings are equipped with parachutes and are retrieved from the ocean after separation.
Customization:
Depending on the payload, fairings can be customized.
For smaller payloads or specific mission requirements, a less robust fairing might suffice.
Tailoring the fairing design to the payloadโ€™s needs can optimize efficiency.

Anonymous No. 16167785

Is it possible to download the contents of the golden record onto your computer?

Anonymous No. 16167786

>>16167487
Truly amazing picture... the contrast and colors of the vast cosmos. All for us to explore

Anonymous No. 16167787

>>16167688
The real blackpill is that we will all just upload ourselves into a computer in 100 years and that will be the end of it. This is why there are no ayyyyys

Anonymous No. 16167792

>>16167659
>takes piece of A4 paper
>folds it in half
>punctures pen through it

Anonymous No. 16167794

>>16167769
I can't wait for the year 2020, imagine, we will all have robo taxis in only 2 years!

Anonymous No. 16167795

>>16167735
Which car do you drive? I personally am attracted to ultrareliable and cheap cars such as Toyota Aygo.

Anonymous No. 16167796

>>16167795
not going to doxx myself

Anonymous No. 16167797

>>16167769
FSD has never been demonstrated.

Anonymous No. 16167800

>>16167797
It's pretty easy to make a train FSD

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Anonymous No. 16167801

Remember this picture?

Anonymous No. 16167802

>>16167797
>>16167794
no nag in 1-2 weeks with FSD 12.4
its happening

Anonymous No. 16167803

>>16167769
Tesla probably can't win on price against BYD in the long run. As you say, product differentiation through self driving software is the escape hatch that Tesla is running towards. Though the obvious problem with that plan is that they don't really have fully functional self driving yet and they need to sell cars *now*.

Of course, another reason for the aggressive cost cutting might be that Tesla wants to put every dollar they can muster on self driving development.

>camera vs lidar
Hasn't the cost of lidar been dropping radically?

>if the chinese launch market was open for SpaceX, they would completely dominate it right now, who could be able to compete?
IDK what you mean. AFAIK China's space sector is currently constrained by launch capacity. If they had access to F9, it would let them deploy their megaconstellations a lot faster. Launch providers like CASC and CASIC would continue as normal because they are SOEs who don't adhere to market principles. The launch startups could also continue as normal because they are funded mostly by continuous equity injections boosted by state-owned VCs, and would probably get guaranteed contracts from the state until they've matured enough to compete on their own.

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Anonymous No. 16167805

>>16167776
too obvious

Anonymous No. 16167806

>>16167801
oh shit, those dyson spheres?

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Anonymous No. 16167807

Banging hot rockets while you sit at a desk

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Anonymous No. 16167811

>>16167806
no, it's just one of JWST's first images.

Anonymous No. 16167813

>>16167787
Good luck uploading consciousness (a non-discrete phenomenal experience) to a computer

Anonymous No. 16167817

>>16167813
a computer simulating a brain is conscious.

Anonymous No. 16167819

>>16167381
>The ladder
Breddy gud album

Anonymous No. 16167820

>>16167817
No its just simulating not experiencing

Anonymous No. 16167821

>>16167820
Give it I/O in meat space and there's no difference.

Anonymous No. 16167822

>>16167821
The difference is there's no qualia no inner experience, because you can't digitize that

Anonymous No. 16167824

>>16167822
There is no rationale for this argument. A Large Language Model lacks such, because they're literally not designed for it.

Anonymous No. 16167826

>>16167824
There's no rationale for either, it's a fantasy.

Anonymous No. 16167827

>>16167822
>no qualia
>you can't digitize that
How do you know?

Anonymous No. 16167828

>>16167381
Falcon is too successful to be replaced by Starship

Anonymous No. 16167829

What makes a brain become conscious anyway? Is it a physical mechanism?

Anonymous No. 16167831

>>16167826
>It just can't work, okay?

Anonymous No. 16167832

>>16167831
>you can just upload your consciousness direct to a computer! why? because you just can okay?

Anonymous No. 16167834

>>16167829
YHWH

Anonymous No. 16167836

>>16167832
The technology to perform a brain duplication or upload absolutely does not exist yet and may not for a very long time, if ever. This is due to the sheer complexity of the brain and the amount of interconnects that need to be perfectly replicated, and there's no reasonable path to developing such a capability yet.

Anonymous No. 16167838

>>16167807
into the cuckhole he goes
you WILL live in the pod

Anonymous No. 16167839

do you at least concede than that a big Neural Network could in principle become conscious?

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Anonymous No. 16167842

HOLY SHIT
STARLINK WON

Anonymous No. 16167843

>>16167842
War chest for Mars settlement and colonization

Anonymous No. 16167845

>>16167839
No because consciousness requires something more than just super sophisticated neural networks imo, which are discrete in a way consciousness isn't. (every single bit of data in a neural network can be quantized and found in a vector space no matter how large)

Anonymous No. 16167846

>>16167839
No, see Searle's Chinese Room. NN still works algorithmically so it doesn't escape his argument

Anonymous No. 16167847

>>16167842
>>16167843
They need to grow into a 20-100B per year revenue with ~20-30 million customers.

Anonymous No. 16167852

>>16167842
>SpaceXโ€™s ambitious Starlink satellite network is exceeding expectations at a blistering pace, according to a new report by Quilty Space, a market research and consulting firm.

Who the hell is Quilty Space?

Anonymous No. 16167859

>>16167846
Everything that makes up the human mind can be explained in mechanical terms so to speak, therefore computer can become conscious.

Anonymous No. 16167860

>>16167842
The best thing about Elon is that he takes daytrader money and blasts it into space

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Anonymous No. 16167864

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/05/nasa-confirms-independent-review-of-orion-heat-shield-issue/?comments=1&comments-page=1

Anonymous No. 16167866

>>16167846
Chinese Room appeals to those who believe in a homunculi living inside the brain piloting stuff, aka the religious and the retard club.

It has zero appeal to anyone who has background into science. Its not just because the homunculi is a wacky idea but neuroscience/biology/physics support the exact opposite. Of there not being one. We can explain all the characteristics of a mind through our current knowledge on brain and the environment effects.

Anonymous No. 16167869

>>16167866
>We can explain all the characteristics of a mind through our current knowledge on brain and the environment effects.
nice bait

Anonymous No. 16167871

>>16167866
Oh really? Then explain qualia, and it doesn't have to be hommunculi thing its just that a mind and conciousness could be more than just matter.

Anonymous No. 16167877

>>16167864
>Incredibly anemic rocket
>The only orbit it can put its capsule in on a lunar trajectory ends up roasting the capsule
Homer Hickam is right. Start over and this time fuck senate mandated specs.

Anonymous No. 16167879

>>16167864
12 YEARS

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Anonymous No. 16167881

Instead of simulated neural networks they should use real ones. Real neurons outperform simulated ones by massive margins. Imagine having a hybrot in your car you have to feed once in a while.

Anonymous No. 16167883

>>16167871
>more than just matter
what would consciousness be made of then? light? How would it work physically?
Do you see the problem we run into?

Anonymous No. 16167890

>>16167864
German Apollo programme engineer turning in their graves

Anonymous No. 16167893

>>16167883
Digital/physical explanations of consciousness run into the same problem, what is it made of? where is it in the brain? how can we experience qualia?

Just saying neither side of the argument has more validity than the other right now.

Anonymous No. 16167895

>>16167881
What's the current state of research in this area? I know they managed to connect some electrodes to real neurons and made them perform arithmetic or something.

Anonymous No. 16167905

>>16167871
Qualia is a term used to describe the state of a homunculi experiencing stuff, if a hard qualia/homunculi pusher is taken seriously. Thats just religious stuff thats right up the alley for the homunculi and thus is unfalsifiable.

A soft stance on qualia is arguing that we have what appears to be a "subjective experience" where there's a "subject" and an "object" duality in an event and where the relations between the two is played out.

The soft stuff gives room for proper analytic explanation. The task is then to trace the origin of the subject/object duality to dismantle the qualia thesis. If we go to the source, we find that we have to go to the event itself. Suppose you're look at this thread and wondering/reading/thinking. Whats happening in this event? From a third person scientific perspective, you have a person staring at a screen and using keyboard/mouse. From a first person perspective, you only have whatever is infront of your eyes, hearing range, tactile sensation, etc. Your senses. Thats where the event is first being recorded in the brain. But that event is the complete picture of what your senses tell you. Then the brain parses the information from the senses to make sense of the event and situate the body in time and space. For that to happen, it needs to create a frame of reference as the center of the event. This is the directionality/intentionality/will power/etc. Further, when analyzing the event, it needs to create a self-locating reference point so we know where we are in time-space for navigating the world and survival. So when an event is parsed in our brain, we get both our narrator and the narrated.

Anonymous No. 16167908

>>16167832
God did not give electricity souls

Anonymous No. 16167912

>>16167905
>Thats just religious stuff thats right up the alley for the homunculi and thus is unfalsifiable.
lmao, can say the same about simulation """theory""" and uploading consciousness to a computer

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>>16167852
>Quilty
Wasn't that the name of the pedo played by Peter Sellers in Lolita?

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>>16167890
I bet he knows how to quick-fix NASA.

Anonymous No. 16167923

>>16167842
and to think that's nothing compared to a traditional isp

Anonymous No. 16167929

>human mars base by 2040
>human level AI by 2030
Why not just wait and send robots

Anonymous No. 16167930

>>16167920
He wouldn't want to, though.
>>16167929
You don't get it.

Anonymous No. 16167931

>>16167916
I wouldn't know, I've never seen it nor read the book.

Anonymous No. 16167932

>>16167929
robots are lame

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Anonymous No. 16167942

its' over

Anonymous No. 16167943

>>16167852
I've read somewhere that they're a market research and consulting firm.

Anonymous No. 16167946

>>16167943
A field with literally zero qualifications or experience required, but managers and financiers tend to listen to them for some inexplicable reason.

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>>16167942

Anonymous No. 16167954

>>16167912
Uploading consciousness is bit wacky as well. The hard stuff can go into either the homunculi or just copy/pasta of the memories/personalities to preserve a "sense" of "continuation" rather than an actual chase for homunculi. I dont know if they really believe this or not

Anonymous No. 16167957

>>16167954
Its just stupid wishful thinking that makes as much sense as simulation theory, often people who believe one will believe the other too.

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Anonymous No. 16167960

>>16167942
>>16167950

Anonymous No. 16167961

>>16167834
At first I thought this was some variation of YWNBAW

Anonymous No. 16167962

>>16167960
quite literally this might be about to happen

I dunno how to process this, also find it funny that it comes right as AI tech/capability is ramping up lmao

Anonymous No. 16167964

>>16167942
I'm sure I'll be fine, what's the worst that can happen, anyway?

Anonymous No. 16167965

>>16167964
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Event#Impact

Anonymous No. 16167966

>>16167964
power outages in sweden and south africa apparently

Anonymous No. 16167967

>>16167965
So the telegraph lines go? Good thing we don't use those anymore, huh.
Repeat after me: "Nothing ever happens"

Anonymous No. 16167973

>>16167967
i hope so

Anonymous No. 16167976

>>16167967
In all seriousness though I am currently backing up all my important data into a usb and am now going to bury it in the yard just in case. Might cut power too.

Anonymous No. 16167980

>>16165453
>FAA investigation
Boeing has been getting away with this shit for so long now because the FAA wasn't doing it job because of corruption.
I fully expect them to cover up a lot of shit.

Anonymous No. 16167981

>>16167942
>>16167950
does this kill the iss? starlink?

Anonymous No. 16167984

>>16167962
unironically an apocalyptic class solar flare event will disrupt the economy for about two months

Anonymous No. 16167989

>>16167960
There is a very easy way for earth to survive a solar flare.
Just turn everything off and disconnect as much stuff as possible and wait a few days and turn everything back on again.
And we have more then enough stuff aimed at the sun to see a solar flare comming at us.
The problem is with how the world is, to convince the world to turn everything off, like the world is now we would have people screaming end of the world or hoax and every faggot in between doing something else that by the time the flare hits us everything is still on and gets fucked.

Take the whole corona shit for example, now try and convince the entire world population to take the vax, but you have about 24 hours.

Anonymous No. 16167994

>>16167981
>G4 Severe
>Spacecraft operations: May experience surface charging and tracking problems, corrections may be needed for orientation problems.

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Anonymous No. 16167997

Interesting.
>Sprawling almost 200,000 km from end to end, AR3664 is 15 times wider than Earth. You can see it through ordinary eclipse glasses with no magnification at all. Moreover, it is easy to project an image of this sunspot onto the sidewalk or a white screen just as Carrington did in the 19th century.

Anonymous No. 16167998

>G4 Storm hits
>fucks up Earth power/electronics/communications
>fucks up satellite navigation/tracking
>satellites collide
>Kessler syndrome
>we're fucked

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Anonymous No. 16168000

https://x.com/ultrasafenuke/status/1788654308164342001

Anonymous No. 16168001

>>16167997
>carrington event
oh shit.
Its ogre.

Anonymous No. 16168002

>>16167962
nature's way of saving us from the ai apocalypse

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>>16168000
>12.5k lb thrust
> 3500kg mass

Anonymous No. 16168005

>>16167997
>>16168001
>same location as the 1859 sunspot
>same wave of flares that meet up to create a monster flare

We might seriously be fucked

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>>16168004

Anonymous No. 16168008

canada is forming a national space council modeled after the trump-created american one
https://www.asc-csa.gc.ca/eng/sustainability/national-space-council.asp

Anonymous No. 16168015

>>16168004
I'm spoiled by the specific impulse of hypothetical fusion engines. Against 5000 seconds, 900 doesn't sound like a lot, until you remember LH2/LOX engines top out in the 400s.

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>>16168005
I like the name they give them: 'cannibal'. It makes sense I guess (CMEs merge/cannibalize) but they could've tried to make it sound less intimidating.
https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov

Anonymous No. 16168019

>>16168005
nothing ever happens

Anonymous No. 16168021

>>16168008
Canada is broke, the chinese are violating their airspace all the time because canada doesn't even have money to fund a 24/7 overview of their own airspace.

Anonymous No. 16168022

>>16168017
woops, fucked the link somehow.
add a /20067 on the end.

Anonymous No. 16168026

>>16168017
>Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs) are clouds of electrified, magnetic gas weighing billions of tons ejected from the Sun and hurled into space with speeds ranging from 12 to 1,250 miles per second (about 20 to 2,000 kilometers per second).

Anonymous No. 16168027

>>16167980
Thats because the same BLM diversity hires that can't do their jobs at Boing are the same ones who do the investigations for the FAA.

Anonymous No. 16168030

So either we survive the carrington event of 2024 and become galactically dominant or we colllapse into ruin and vanish into the animal kingdom

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Anonymous No. 16168031

>>16168030
>me on the left after the carrington event of 2024

Anonymous No. 16168033

>>16168031
fun fact, mammoths were hunted by asiatics, not whites

Anonymous No. 16168036

>>16168033
That MIGHT be technically true at a stretch, but calling them asiatics is a bit obtuse.

Anonymous No. 16168038

>>16168033
how is that russian mmoth cloning project going anyway?
I remember news articles claiming we would see a baby woolly mammoth this year.

Anonymous No. 16168040

New /sfg/ has launched
>>16168037
>>16168037
>>16168037
>>16168037
>>16168037

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Anonymous No. 16168041

>>16168040
but anon...

Anonymous No. 16168047

>>16168040
We have simple rules, why is it so hard to follow them?

Anonymous No. 16168048

>>16168041
theres a delay on how often the javascript updates those stats, the data can be up to several hundred seconds out of date

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>>16168047

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Anonymous No. 16168167

>>16167433
>Elon has worked with governments all over the world that have actually executed journalists
Like the USA?