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Anonymous No. 16212580

I don't trust science because scientists were bribed to make us consume seed oils and sugar

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Anonymous No. 16212581

Anonymous No. 16212654

>Science lied
Add it to the list.

Anonymous No. 16212665

>>16212580
And don't forget cigarettes. That trash was declared "good for your health".
Never trust those fuckers.

Anonymous No. 16212700

>>16212580
>seed oils
meme

Anonymous No. 16212703

>>16212580
By that logic you shouldn't trust anything the Romans said because they used lead pipes and salts as sweetener. And you shouldn't trust anything the Ancient Greeks figured out because of the whole child diddling thing.
It's an iterative process.

Anonymous No. 16212706

>>16212703
who bribed the romans to use lead, according to you?

Anonymous No. 16212753

>>16212706
>No Roman was ever bribed
Also, you not using lead means you trust science.

Anonymous No. 16212755

>>16212753
I only use lead as a glownigger detector. Damnedest thing, they yelp with even the smallest amounts.

Anonymous No. 16212797

>>16212706
Me. (I am a lead salesman.)

Anonymous No. 16212926

>>16212580
This is fake science, don't read it and delete the link or you're literally a baby murdering fascist!

Anonymous No. 16213077

>>16212580
>I don't trust science because other science says this science is wrong
maybe the solution to your problem is nuance

Anonymous No. 16213082

>>16213077
Yes let's just ignore the corporate lobbying altogether. We could really use another opioid crisis or cigarettes are good for you campaign, we really need more of those.

Anonymous No. 16213104

>>16213082
I'm not telling you you're wrong you dip, I'm telling you that pointing the finger at an umbrella term like "science" is stupid when your counterargument is no doubt the result of research which also falls under the same umbrella.

Anonymous No. 16213109

>>16212580
>>16212581
>sugar is le bad
You are either falling for WEF propaganda right now or you are actively promoting it. Which one is it? Show us your foreskin.

Anonymous No. 16213113

>>16213109
Show me any human who needs sugar to survive

Anonymous No. 16213118

>>16213113
Alright, that settles the foreskin question.

Anonymous No. 16213121

>>16213118
Not an counter argument

Anonymous No. 16213125

>>16213121
>nOt A cOuNtEr ArGuMeNt

Anonymous No. 16213172

>>16213077
This.

It's science that has found evidence proving the corporation backed studies wrong. The argument shouldn't be "science is le bad" it's "scientists are also humans that can be bought and manipulated" and "corpos will kill you just to get that extra dollar out of you". You don't solve those problems by foregoing science but by doing more of it.

Anonymous No. 16213175

>>16213113
Show me a human that needs meat to survive. Why aren't you vegan, Anon? You must be a [buzzword] shill!

Anonymous No. 16213179

>>16212580
>I don't trust human endeavor because humans can be bribed
FTFY

Anonymous No. 16213187

>>16213104
That's science's problem you idiot, for losing trust of the public while taking taxpayer's money, not the public's problem.

Anonymous No. 16213194

>>16213179
>Congress can be bribed so democracy should be abolished.
FTFY

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Anonymous No. 16213197

>>16213109
>>sugar is le bad
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45vDI9QzRwI

Anonymous No. 16213201

>>16213194
I believe this unironically.

Anonymous No. 16216355

>>16212797
>>16212753
are the romans in the room with you right now?

Anonymous No. 16216370

>>16213194
This is what I believe. But I wonder what this has to do with science. Are you being off topic?

Anonymous No. 16216447

>>16212580
>Paid and bought to shill sugar
>Paid and bought to shill cigarettes
>Paid and bought to shill heroines
>Paid and bought to shill for chopping off kids genitals
What next? Paid and bought to shill cancer inducing drug so they can have permanent patients?

Anonymous No. 16216481

>>16213104
Why not "science" as a paint brush?

People throw around the word "science" interchangeably with "the scientific method", but they are not the same. The idealised concept you have in your head of great minds discovering the workings of the universe is purely fictional. Academia is filled to the brim with financial interests and egos. You may trust the philosophy of science, but it's only a philosophy.

Anonymous No. 16216509

>>16213172
Science did that on its own without any human intervention? Of course not, it's all humans. What's really pissing people off is when humans says "trust the science" or "believe in science" and scream "science denier" at anyone who questions the humans calling themselves science. And then when they're found out to be lying sacks of shit, people like you who were quiet before suddenly pop up to say "oh, that's not science, that's just people doing bad things, continue to believe science".
Fuck off with that shit! Science doesn't get to be a synonym for truth and then when something turns out to be wrong, toss off those as something done by a human, not science. Really tired of this "scientize wins, humantize failures" double standard that science worshipers do to make themselves above question.

Anonymous No. 16216541

>>16212580
You shouldn't trust science because there aren't any scientists smart enough or honest enough to recognize a toxic greed addiction system. Those scientists are in on the take.

Also, constantly evolving misinformational beliefs will never turn into truth one day. Basically an addiction-based religious system for the top 10% who own everything to profit even further while everyone else gets drops.

Addiction is diametrically opposed to freedom.

Legalized Plunder Fraud World

Anonymous No. 16216560

>>16212580
I don't trust the science because the equation I found on a paper for calculating the stray capacitance of a coil was wrong

Anonymous No. 16216573

>>16216560
Was millions of dollars poured into ensuring that everyone else got the incorrect equations as well?

Anonymous No. 16216581

>some scientists do bad shit for money
>hence, all of science is bad
nice train of thought. don't think for yourself, there's no nuance, everything is either good or evil

Anonymous No. 16216596

>>16216573
Yes. If you enroll in a psychology degree and answer the test questions truthfully (for example by writing that the DSM is unscientific and baloney and does not contain real diagnoses, whenever you're asked something about the DSM) you will fail the tests and you will not get a degree and thus not a professional working in the field.

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Anonymous No. 16216615

I agree. The will pay to say whatever. Pay me and I’ll say whatever too

Anonymous No. 16216623

>>16212580
science is always wrong, except when it proves itself wrong
https://rumble.com/vhb537-i-remember-wen.html

Anonymous No. 16216636

>>16216581
>we're sorry about asbestos, seed oils and microplastics
>but trust us, you're gonna love this vaccine

When is it time for you people to concede that the current institution is an absolute joke? This notion of "science" being a shining beacon of truth is just a delusion of a pure philosophical ideals. In the real world, it's packed to the brim with malicious actors and downright retards. Is the implementation of your ideal really working?

Anonymous No. 16216776

>>16216636
Like every system it is imperfect and a minority of corrupt and bad actors cause significant problems for everyone else: It happens in politics, it happens in law enforcement, it happens in the judicial system, it happens in medicine, it happen education, etc.

All it proves is that the research sector is just as imperfect as anything else, and the price of its continued positive contributions to society is constant vigilance for the bad.

Anonymous No. 16217812

>>16216355
No, because I poisoned them all with lead.

Anonymous No. 16217846

>>16216636
>This notion of "science" being a shining beacon of truth is just a delusion of a pure philosophical ideals
That delusion strongly appeals to certain classes of mentally ill people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_(psychology)

Anonymous No. 16217882

>>16217846
Good example. A fake disease that was added to the DSM-3 with zero science backing it up.

Anonymous No. 16217916

>>16216581
are you suggesting that you, or anyone else, reads and independently verifies every piece of scientific literature published?
of course not. people have to have a faith, or trust in the people that publish and distribute research for progress to be made.

it is natural and proper for people to lose faith in an establishment when the foundations are shown to be faulty.

it seems to me that you just want to have a pointless argument over semantics instead of trying to interpret someone's post in a sensible way.

Anonymous No. 16217931

>>16217916
science isn't about faith, it's not an establishment, and if you want to criticize its foundations, then please do so. I can't see what's faulty about them.
>Science is the pursuit and application of knowledge and understanding of the natural and social world following a systematic methodology based on evidence

Anonymous No. 16217936

>>16217931
ok.
this is semantics

Anonymous No. 16217966

Anyone else notice these threads that violate the rules of the board but neber get deleted? Are the jannies and mods actively spamming this shit?

Anonymous No. 16217995

>>16217936
you just fundamentally misunderstand or at least misrepresent what science is. To give you an analogy, it's like if you saw some out of context photographs used for propaganda, and you decided that it means people shouldn't have faith in journalism. You're blending together a concept with the way it's applied. Psychiatric science is about organizing our knowledge of mental disorders, one step of it was the DSM which was the organization of knowledge from expert psychiatrists of the time, trying to get a consensus on certain points when there was very little, and trying to move towards a unified method to diagnose mental disorders. It's an important step because it lets psychiatrists then test this classification that people agreed on, and try to see what's wrong about it so that they can correct it. And the part that are right can be used in research to test new drugs and therapy in a way that can be repeated by different operators with similar results. it's far from perfect but it's a step forward. Science isn't a bible that drops on your desk complete from the start.

Anonymous No. 16218008

>>16217966
None of /sci/ rules violated. Posts critical of science are allowed as long as they don't invoke religion.

Anonymous No. 16218010

>>16217995
You are in the wrong thread schizo, this is not the thread about DSM/psychiatry
>>16216540

Anonymous No. 16218021

>>16218010
my bad, half the threads on /sci/ are the same rants about science it's hard to keep up

Anonymous No. 16218172

>>16216370
>filtered

Anonymous No. 16218193

>>16213172
Midwit take.

It's not science, it's investigate journalism that uncovered and found evidence of bribery and misleading studies and falsified data. Long after scientists were fired from positions, denied science funding, removed from committees for being "unscientific".

Anonymous No. 16220092

>>16217966
>ITS A CONSP-P-PIRACY!!!!
https://www.healthcentral.com/condition/schizophrenia/paranoid-schizophrenia

Anonymous No. 16220109

>>16216355
No, the lead ate them.

Anonymous No. 16220133

>>16220092
It's not a conspiracy theory. Jannies and mods are all day deleting threads but this inorganic spam is staying here all eay every day

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Anonymous No. 16221293

>>16220133
Sneed oils and HFCS and the scientists that shill them are whats inorganic, amigo

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16221323

>>16213194
>Congress can be bribed so democracy should be abolished.
>>>/pol/

Anonymous No. 16221986

>>16212580
>I don't trust scientists because scientists were bribed to make us consume seed oils and sugar
FTFY

Anonymous No. 16222760

>>16221986
ok

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Anonymous No. 16223918

>>16212755
It burns our skin alright! We can't help it! It's how we were made!

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Anonymous No. 16225569

>>16213104
>MUH SOIENCE IS INNOCENT!!!
>IT DINDU NUFFIN!!!!

Anonymous No. 16225581

>>16213172
Based. Everyone else is coping because they're citing studies from scientists to try to prove their point.

Anonymous No. 16225644

>>16212580
Let's eat more S O Y everyone. And eat more sugar. We really need more cereals and vegetable fibre in our lives, eggs and dairy are terrible for you!

Anonymous No. 16225663

>>16225581
They're called books and news articles retard.
Studies come after books and journalism have already created controversy and mainstream debate challenging scientific practice and scientific consensus.

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>>16225644

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Anonymous No. 16229726

>>16216447
They already do that.

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>>16228568
good pic, scientist are greedy schemers, people who think they aren't are naïve and possibly even low iq

Anonymous No. 16231899

>>16212654
is there a list of things they can't be bribed to lie about?

Anonymous No. 16231905

>I don't trust science because people have used scientific-sounding shit to sell people things under false pretense
Science is simply the process of discovery without bias. It's not a body of knowledge or buzzwords.

Anonymous No. 16232456

>>16231905
And?

Anonymous No. 16232577

I see a lot of ppl saying seed oils are bad, but exactly what seed oils are bad? Sunflower? Peanuts? Almonds? Hazelnuts?

Anonymous No. 16232580

>>16232577
look up the effects of linoleic acid

Anonymous No. 16232768

>>16231905
Copout. They are employed as scientists and publish in scientific journals. Clearly science lacks the ability to cleanse itself from these frauds.

Anonymous No. 16233819

>>16231905
>Science is simply the process of discovery without bias.
you're mentally ill if you think that people without biases exist, that extremely pretentious pretense has long since been proved false.

Anonymous No. 16233842

>>16231905
Unfortunately, this is just the No True Scotsman fallscy. It's akin to saying Soviet Russia wasn't real communism. It might be technically correct, but it's kind of irrelevant. Science exists in the world as it is. You can idealize it in your mind all you want, but it takes physical form in the world, and it should be criticized as such.

Anonymous No. 16233849

>>16232577
Some seed oils are worse than others, but they're all bad. You're using a hardh chemical proceds to refine the part of the plant that is most highly chemically defended into an oil that we would have neber had access to in our millions of years of hominid evolution. It would be a miracle if seed oils WEREN'T toxic. Also, as >>16232580 pointed out, linoleic acid has been identified as a lolely culprit in the adverse health effects of consuming seed oils like canola oil.

Anonymous No. 16234389

>>16232580
All the articles say its beneficial but in our corrupt world that means shit. I was curious about the arguments against it.

Anonymous No. 16234393

>>16232580
>Consumption of linoleic acid has been associated with lowering the risk of cardiovascular disease, diabetes and premature death. There is high-quality evidence that increased intake of linoleic acid decreases total blood cholesterol and low-density lipoprotein.
>The American Heart Association advises people to replace saturated fat with linoleic acid to reduce CVD risk.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16234396

>>16234389
>You're using a hardh chemical proceds to refine the part of the plant that is most highly chemically defended into an oil that we would have neber had access to in our millions of years of hominid evolution.

Wait. You're saying the oils are dangerous. If I just eat the seeds then it's fine, afterall we've consuming raw seeds for a long time due to easy access.

>linoleic acid has been identified

But eggs also have linoleic acid.

Anonymous No. 16234400

>>16233849
>You're using a hardh chemical proceds to refine the part of the plant that is most highly chemically defended into an oil that we would have neber had access to in our millions of years of hominid evolution.

Wait. You're saying the oils are dangerous. If I just eat the seeds then it's fine, afterall we've consuming raw seeds for a long time due to easy access.

>linoleic acid has been identified

But eggs also have linoleic acid.

Anonymous No. 16234408

What about the proteins in peanuts. Are they just as good as meat protein? A lot of fitness products advertise peanuts due to their protein content.

Anonymous No. 16234619

>>16234400
I'm saying seeds are bad, but seed oils are much worse.

Eggs have nowhere near the percentage of linoleic acid in their fat that seed oils do, especially if you eat truly pastured eggs. If the chickens eat a lotof seeds, their eggs will be higher in linoleic acid. If they're allowed to roam around and eat their natural diet, their eggs will have extremely low linoleic acid content.

Anonymous No. 16234640

>>16234400
>>16234619
To clarify, seed oils are concentrating the unhealthy oils in a way that would be impossible to achieve by eating the unprocessed seeds. You'd have to eat something like 80 ears of corn to reach a few tbsp of corn oil.

Anonymous No. 16234649

>>16234393
https://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i1246%20
>The intervention group had significant reduction in serum cholesterol compared with controls (mean change from baseline −13.8% v −1.0%; P<0.001). Kaplan Meier graphs showed no mortality benefit for the intervention group in the full randomized cohort or for any prespecified subgroup. There was a 22% higher risk of death for each 30 mg/dL (0.78 mmol/L) reduction in serum cholesterol in covariate adjusted Cox regression models (hazard ratio 1.22, 95% confidence interval 1.14 to 1.32; P<0.001). There was no evidence of benefit in the intervention group for coronary atherosclerosis or myocardial infarcts. Systematic review identified five randomized controlled trials for inclusion (n=10808). In meta-analyses, these cholesterol lowering interventions showed no evidence of benefit on mortality from coronary heart disease (1.13, 0.83 to 1.54) or all cause mortality (1.07, 0.90 to 1.27).

>Available evidence from randomized controlled trials shows that replacement of saturated fat in the diet with linoleic acid effectively lowers serum cholesterol but does not support the hypothesis that this translates to a lower risk of death from coronary heart disease or all causes. Findings from the Minnesota Coronary Experiment add to growing evidence that incomplete publication has contributed to overestimation of the benefits of replacing saturated fat with vegetable oils rich in linoleic acid.

Anonymous No. 16235433

>>16234393
Read it more closely
>Consumption of linoleic acid has been associated with lowering the risk of cardiovascular disease, diabetes and premature death.
or to clarify
>Consumption of linoleic acid has been associated with lowering the risk of cardiovascular disease, diabetes as well as premature death.
and more succinctly
>Consumption of linoleic acid has been associated with premature death.

Anonymous No. 16236605

>>16235433
he's wrong and stupid but won't ever admit it

Anonymous No. 16237337

>>16212580
scientist can be bribed extremely cheaply because they are poor and don't have consciences

Anonymous No. 16238122

>>16234408
Can someone answer this? I NEED to know.

Anonymous No. 16238428

>>16238122
just eat meat if you want to get meat protein. plants are a different class of life.

Anonymous No. 16238991

>>16212654
Science doesn't lie. It doesn't dance or sing, either.

Anonymous No. 16238993

>>16213172
>It's science that has found evidence proving the corporation backed studies wrong
That's like saying "law" got me off on a serious charge or got me €500.000 on a tort claim.

Anonymous No. 16239350

>>16238122
Animal protein is much more bioavailable than plant protein in general. Seeds especially, like peanuts, are full of anti-nutrients like phytic acid that actively prevent the absorption of nutrients. If you ate the equivalent amount of protein from peanut butter and meat (which, frankly, would not even be possible because it would require copious amounts of peanut butter and it would give you severe digestive problems, but for the sake of argument let's just say...), you would get more amino acids into your cells from the meat.

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Anonymous No. 16240606

>>16238991
>muh infallible science religion doesn't lie!!!
>it is the one true faith!!
scientists lie all the time, they fuck dogs too

Anonymous No. 16242284

>>16216581
>some scientists do bad shit for money
>hence, all of science is bad
this but unironically

Anonymous No. 16243587

>>16242284
This, scientists have proved themselves to be untrustworthy liars, anyone who has faith in their words is behaving irrationally

Anonymous No. 16243605

>>16212580
>>16212581
I never liked science.

Beyond mental arithmetic it was clearly a bunch of bullshit meant only for autists.

Anonymous No. 16243609

>>16212580
Yes, let's go back to ritualistic blood letting, leeches and curing diseases with the four humors.

The problem in this isn't "science lied" it's "corporations lied". The problem isn't the scientists, it's the corporations who are compelled to bribe every single motherfucker they can in order to deny the science they know is real. Same thing happened with leaded gasoline, cigarettes, and now climate change.

Anonymous No. 16243615

Well sucrose was bad, but Apsartame is totally safe!

Anonymous No. 16244352

>>16243609
>The problem in this isn't "science lied" it's "corporations lied".
There were no corporations when people did bloodletting

Anonymous No. 16244366

>>16243609
>it's not scientists' fault that they get bribed
The npc's are breaking down. Is there a factory reset button or something?

Anonymous No. 16244380

>>16212580
They are also bribed by the animal agriculture industry to trick retards into thinking that cow milk is healthy for humans.

Anonymous No. 16244387

>>16243609
>Real science has never been tried!
Come up with some new material.

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Anonymous No. 16245273

>>16243609
>Same thing happened with leaded gasoline, cigarettes, and now climate change.
Also covid
Why is it so easy to bribe scientists anyway? Why are scientists so greedy and conscienceless? They're never portrayed that way in the media, but they sure are easily swayed by a little cash in IRL

Anonymous No. 16246183

>>16244380
You must be fun at parties

Anonymous No. 16246295

ALL SCIENTISTS ARE PSYCHOPATHS.
If they aren't. Then they are hobbyists.
Being a scientist means you've sold off all pretense of wishing to be some "god" and will do literally anything to become higher up in the club of "science".
It's entirely ego.

The best actual science has, for all time, been done by self funded hobbyists.

Anonymous No. 16246633

>>16212580
Do the right thing, don't.

Anonymous No. 16246712

If you don't eat sugar and seed oils you've got an eating disorder (restricted diet, health obsession) and need treatment with drugs

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Anonymous No. 16247888

>>16246712
that one right there is a moneymaker. you can earn a lot of cash publishing rhetoric like that.

Anonymous No. 16248953

>>16246712
>prescription strength HFCS
imagine the money to be made selling it on the black market to goysloppers looking for stronger slop

Anonymous No. 16250393

>>16212580
Scientist will lie about anything for the right amount of money, they're very greedy people.

Anonymous No. 16250398

>>16212580
They were just regular hypocrites

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16251601

ishowspeed was in the netherlands and caused total chaos

Anonymous No. 16251938

>>16212654
Something Herman Cain, the black republican pizza man, of all people said that I think about a lot is "numbers don't lie, but liars use numbers".

Anonymous No. 16253037

>>16246295
>The best actual science has, for all time, been done by self funded hobbyists.
yep and when they do it the "professionals" inevitably scoff at their efforts out of resentment

Anonymous No. 16254333

>>16253037
thats what happened to the wright brothers, tesla, edison and clyde tombaugh

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Anonymous No. 16255968

>>16212580
OP is a glownigger. Dietfaggotry for some reason is REALLY effective at getting the low IQies to yap online.

Anonymous No. 16256983

>>16216636
>but trust us, you're gonna love this vaccine
the low IQs who fell for that got what they deserved.
based scientists developing a toxic injection and tricking low IQs into taking it

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Anonymous No. 16259028

>>16212580
scientists are conscienceless whores because they're atheists/satanists and atheists/satanists are conscienceless whores.

Anonymous No. 16260035

>>16259028
Scientists weren't like that back in the old days when Christianity was the dominant religion

Anonymous No. 16260667

>>16254333
They delisted Pluto as a planet out of resentment that Tombaugh made the biggest astronomical discovery of the 20th century with only a high school degree

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Anonymous No. 16261037

>>16246712
>If you don't eat [TOXIC PSEUDOFOOD #1] or [TOXIC PSEUDOFOOD #2] you have an eating disorder

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Anonymous No. 16262286

>>16261037
stop being so racist

Anonymous No. 16263380

>>16212580
>seed oils and sugar
its not just scientists doing that.
4chan is censored to prevent people from discussing the harmful effects of the estrogenic east Asian legume

Anonymous No. 16263410

>>16263380
>I'm afraid of plant estrogen because I'm a plant
Never understood the anxiety of consuming soj

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>>16263410
post moobs

Anonymous No. 16265525

>>16264547
>go to 3rd world for cheap surgery
>end up getting raped to death by goatfuckers or jeets after successful treatment

Anonymous No. 16265696

>>16213172
this, the beauty of science is the science of today will be proven wrong by the science of tomorrow. it's just a matter of when, and that's the grate thing about science

Anonymous No. 16265711

>>16263410
the censored onion-routing plant that sounds like "Boy Toy" contains phytoestrogen chemicals, meaning natural plant chemicals that act like girl hormones inside humans

>u can freakin Wikipedia it

Anonymous No. 16266730

>>16265696
>and that's the grate thing about science
because they can just screech "THE SOIYENCE HAS CHANGED" whenever they want to alter a narrative

Anonymous No. 16267863

>>16212580
scientists will lie about anything in exchange for pathetically small amounts of money.

Anonymous No. 16269096

>>16213113
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Anonymous No. 16269444

>>16213113
Literally every single living animal requires sugar to survive.
>inb4 thats not dietary sugar
There is no difference between glucose manufactured in the body and glucose obtained from simple sugars.

🗑️ sage No. 16269450

>>16212580
>>16212581
Capitalism is truly the greatest scourge in human history. It's the most evil thing humans have ever invented.

Anonymous No. 16270684

>>16269450
>>>/pol/

Anonymous No. 16271578

>>16213194
>>16213179
If something is demonstrably corrupt, you shouldn't trust it. Why is this such a stretch for you retards?
Just because other retards are throwing out the baby with the bathwater doesn't mean that you should ignore the pretty substantial problems in science and congress.

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16273105

>>16271578

Anonymous No. 16273692

>>16212654
name something good that scientists have done in the past several decades

Anonymous No. 16273807

>>16238991
True, Science is just a branch of philosophy. But many who represent "science" are lying pieces of shit.

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Anonymous No. 16273810

Dear anti-seed oil chudds,

Check this shit out: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7584802/

>In conclusion, the experimental evidence suggesting that sesamin can reduce CVD risk is convincing. Thus, sesamin can be potentially useful as an adjuvant therapeutic agent to combat CVD and its multitude of risk factors.

>but, but, muh seed oil-free diet is soooo heeeltheeee

Anonymous No. 16273836

>>16212665
it is

Anonymous No. 16273837

>>16213113
look in the mirror

Anonymous No. 16273838

>>16213113
>>16212581
>>16212700
>>16213197

Anonymous No. 16275339

>>16223906
trust the science

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16276276

>>16265525

Anonymous No. 16276390

>>16273810
Why do the schizos who cry about "chuds" on every single board want people to mindlessly believe and obey "authority" figures? You guys still buckbroken over that NPC meme or something?

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16278316

>>16273692

Anonymous No. 16278353

>>16273810
>suggesting
>potentially
So, nothing.

Anonymous No. 16278484

>>16240606
tell me what you think the scientific method is

Anonymous No. 16278579

>>16269444
the difference is the level of it 12 vs 110+ units

Anonymous No. 16278585

>>16273810
>some micro element/small % of the macros is le healthy
>ergo, eat thew shit that is 99% trash
macros are called that for a reason

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16279910

>>16278484
You have no idea what it is and you never will be able to understand because you are not a Christian. The scientific method was invented by Christians exclusively for use by Christians. Science is a subset of Christianity, you have to first be a Christian before you can be a scientist.

Anonymous No. 16280042

>>16279910
So you don't even know what it is. Kek what a bitch.

Anonymous No. 16281001

>>16276390
because they are delusional

Anonymous No. 16281997

>>16278484
you have no idea what the scientific method is

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16282159

>>16281997
your post got deleted and this is your plan B. Kek. KYS

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Anonymous No. 16283067

>>16212580
Isn't that medicine you should not trust? The most corrupt 'science' there is? People only get into that field for the money not to help people.

Anonymous No. 16283093

>>16238991
But scientists do, and without them there's no science. I've always found ironic how similar science and religion are, in the sense that both are supposed to be manifestations of the human spirit of the highest order while their representatives are completely crooked. Yet both are completely repellent with one another. Guess it's both sides of a same coin.

Anonymous No. 16283970

>>16283008
based

Anonymous No. 16285845

>>16266730
> they can just screech "THE SOIYENCE HAS CHANGED" whenever they want to alter a narrative
You can't do that with The Bible, thats why science is so popular with liars that are constantly changing their stories

Anonymous No. 16285848

>>16285845
Did Jesus's followers go to Galilee or stay in Jerusalem?

Anonymous No. 16286306

liars all of them

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Anonymous No. 16286358

>>16212580
I don't trust science because scientists were bribed to make us consume nigger dicks.

Anonymous No. 16286631

>>16285848
Who wrote the gospels?

Anonymous No. 16286986

THis is what happens when you don't fear eternal damnation for perverting god's creaton

Anonymous No. 16287382

>>16212580
People and organizations can be corrupted? Who knew!

Science isn't a organization, it's a process.

Anonymous No. 16287756

>>16286631
Some anonymous guys jacking off in their huts.

Anonymous No. 16288604

>>16287382
it's a process controlled by people and organizations

Anonymous No. 16289345

>>16287382
>Science isn't a organization, it's a process.
le autistic perfect world fallacy

Anonymous No. 16290577

>>16212580
>>16212665
>>16228568
scientists will lie about anything for a little money

Anonymous No. 16291393

>>16212580
I don't see anything about seed oils OP

Anonymous No. 16291482

>>16291393
seed oils cause cancer

Anonymous No. 16291486

>>16216355
You're looking at them asshole

Anonymous No. 16291503

>>16212580
American here we eat oil and sugar because it's delicious and the constitution says I can eat whatever I want mom.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16291518

Dik zijn is niet oké

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Anonymous No. 16292263

>>16212580
The first donation to the American Heart Association came from seed oil inventor Procter & Gamble under the advice of ((Edward Bernays)). Soon after, the AHA promoted Ancel Key's flawed theory of cholesterol causing heart disease, which was based on the correlation found in Dr. Key's cherry picked "Six Country Study" that ignored countries like France and Germany because they did not fit his model.

>>16232577
pic rel

Anonymous No. 16292289

>>16292263
Modern scientific research on heart disease often uses cholesterol lowering as a surrogate end point to studies.

Anonymous No. 16292303

>>16292289
Yes, because they are institutionally wedded to the cholesterol model.
Read around the topic and you will understand just how fucked up the whole system is

At one point the American association of pediatrics were one of the onlyy large medical groups opposed to the theories being promoted by keys et al, because there work wasn't tainted by the animal fat = heart disease dogmka since their core focis had been on actually replicable scientific studies looking at optimal health and growth in young childre, but eventually they managed to infiltrate even them with Key's acolytes and the AAP switched from recommending a diet rich in nutrient dense animal fats to a policy of dissuading fanimal at consumption above like 25% of total calories to avoid heart disease in later life.

It will take decades to undo the damage the anti fat dogma of the of the AHA has done to the field of nutrition

Anonymous No. 16293022

>>16221293
sneed

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Anonymous No. 16294369

>>16289345
Heres how things work in the real world

Anonymous No. 16294960

>>16292263
>>16292303
I don't really subscribe to the cholesterol theory either. I've read some of what Uffe Ravnskov has said on the matter. But do people who are aware of this know what makes seed oils so bad?

Anonymous No. 16294964

>>16294369
What are you implying with that

Anonymous No. 16295652

>>16294964
its a good book, you'll learn a lot if you read it

Anonymous No. 16295851

>>16295652
I don't take people who can't describe books in their own words seriously. Most likely they haven't even read the book.

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Anonymous No. 16296007

>>16294960
>what makes seed oils so bad
I read new book "Dark Calories" and the current theory is toxins due to oxidation. Polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs) are prone to oxidation. This is because PUFAs contain multiple double bonds.

One type of PUFA oxidation's byproducts are aldehydes which are carcinogens found in cigarette smoke. The author Dr Cate says you one french fry fried in seed oils has about the same amount of carcinogenic aldehydes as one cigarette.

But, these compounds do not only cause cancer and DNA mutation. The oxidative stress leads to the depletion of antioxidants in the body. Chronic depletion is associated with cardiovascular disease and inflammatory conditions (auto-immune).

Lipid science is complex, health science is complex.

Anonymous No. 16296015

>>16212703
the greeks never lied about their love for diddling children

Anonymous No. 16296020

>>16217812
Kek

Anonymous No. 16296917

>>16295851
you're confusing "can't" with "won't"

Anonymous No. 16296935

>>16234393
>The American Heart Association
is best known for being the paid mouthpiece of companies that produce products high in linoleic acid. This is the same shit that Oil and Tobacco companies did.

Anonymous No. 16297194

>>16296917
You can't because you haven't read the book.

Anonymous No. 16297197

>>16297194
Which he won't read either

Anonymous No. 16297293

>>16273692
dinosaurs have feathers now
no longer do they look like cool super alligators but instead like homosexual pro-lgbT birds

Anonymous No. 16297465

>>16297197
"he" as in the retard linking the pdf, yes

Anonymous No. 16298486

Kill scientists. Behead scientists. Roundhouse kick a scientist into the concrete. Slam dunk a scientist baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy scientists. Defecate in a scientists food. Launch scientists into the sun. Stir fry scientists in a wok. Toss scientists into active volcanoes. Urinate into a scientists gas tank. Judo throw scientists into a wood chipper. Twist scientists heads off. Report scientists to the IRS. Karate chop scientists in half. Curb stomp pregnant scientists. Trap scientists in quicksand. Crush scientists in the trash compactor. Liquefy scientists in a vat of acid. Eat scientists. Dissect scientists. Exterminate scientists in the gas chamber. Stomp scientist skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate scientists in the oven. Lobotomize scientists. Mandatory abortions for scientists. Grind scientist fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown scientists in fried chicken grease. Vaporize scientists with a ray gun. Kick old scientists down the stairs. Feed scientists to alligators. Slice scientists with a katana.

Anonymous No. 16298681

>>16212580
>JAMA Internal Medicine

Their entire board and peer review process is infested with Jews. Divest in Israel because they've been corrupting science since we let them in.

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Anonymous No. 16299903

>>16298486
thats racist and sexist

Anonymous No. 16299988

crazy to think that some facebook mum or /pol/tard (same thing) seeing a video of rapeseed oil being pressed and thinking "ewww that looks icky" kicked off this seed oil nonsense

>>16299903
fucking hell lad you've been posting pictures of black women and "hurr scientists" for at least 4 years

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Anonymous No. 16299993

>>16216636
>asbestos, seed oils, microplastics and vaccines BAD
Did The Science(TM) tell you that?

Anonymous No. 16300279

>>16299993
You're right, they never even apologized, they did not say sorry like the other poster claimed

Anonymous No. 16301285

>>16286358
scientists have no morals, so they're happy to stab their own race in the back in order to forward their own careers

Anonymous No. 16301787

>>16301285
absurd notion, the avergae scientist isn't gonna let someone fuck his wife or kill someone

Anonymous No. 16301795

>>16212654
Science (“the science”) is no different from subjective witchcraft at this point.

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Anonymous No. 16303541

>>16301285

Anonymous No. 16305115

>>16301787
people who are solely concerned with self interest don't care about the plight of anyone other than themselves

Anonymous No. 16306574

>>16212580
Of course that means that you will be able to trust them once you're in position to bribe them

Anonymous No. 16308095

>>16301285
Thats what happened when you let atheist get their foot in the door of formerly Christian institutions. Atheists have no morals, so their presence necessarily instigates moral decay

Anonymous No. 16309325

>>16301787
they would if they were to benefit individually from it

Anonymous No. 16310528

>>16309325
this, doctors knowingly or accidentally kill their patients all the time, medical 'error' is the leading cause of death, and doctors don't care even sightly about it.

Anonymous No. 16311798

>>16310528
>random patient
>same as their wife

Raphael No. 16312402

>>16212580
Sugar doesn’t cause heart disease

Seed oils are cardioprotective except for gmo basedbean oil

Anonymous No. 16312500

>>16312402
>Seed oils are cardioprotective
That's the most retarded response I've seen in this thread.

Raphael No. 16312540

>>16312500
Proof nigger

Seed oil omega 6s are healthy

Show proof they’re bad

Raphael No. 16312541

>>16312500
What’s your Iq anon

Mine is 160 and 170 on see30

Anonymous No. 16312553

>>16312540
Go through every breakdown product of linoleic acid and try saying that again with a straight face.

Raphael No. 16312574

>>16312553
Show a study where plant omega 6s are harmful.

Anonymous No. 16312581

>>16312574
linoleic acid can be used to induce insulin resistance.

Raphael No. 16312596

>>16312581
PmID

Anonymous No. 16312607

>>16312596
can't find it right now but this came up while I was searching.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23386268/
>Results: The intervention group (n=221) had higher rates of death than controls

Raphael No. 16312650

>>16312607
n=221

Need proof nigger not some highschool study

Raphael No. 16312652

>>16312607
Quit changing the subject insulin resistance is different from cvd

If you say that cvd is type 3 diabetes you are a fucking nigger

Anonymous No. 16312656

>>16312652
No, actually it works as evidence against your prior statement of seed oils being heart healthy, while although this is a small study it showed no benefit from seed oil supplementation

Raphael No. 16312658

>>16312656
Heart healthy

Insulin resistance has nothing to do with the heart

Anonymous No. 16312660

>>16312658
>heart healthy
You need to show evidence of this, the study I posted showed no benefit.

Raphael No. 16312661

>>16312660
Even if they’re neutral op is wrong

Anonymous No. 16312665

>>16312661
Please supply evidence to support your statement that sugar and seed oils (excluding soi oil) are heart healthy

Raphael No. 16312786

>>16312665
I’m right


You can’t prove otherwise

Raphael No. 16312789

>>16312665
https://www.nmcd-journal.com/article/S0939-4753(21)00002-8/fulltext

Anonymous No. 16313200

>>16312789
>https://www.nmcd-journal.com/article/S0939-4753(21)00002-8/fulltext
>Several novel foods that can help reduce LDL cholesterol were discovered
how does this have anything to do with improving heart health I'd like an explanation?

Anonymous No. 16313205

Did the bug butter thread get deleted?

someone must have been concerned.

Raphael No. 16313249

>>16313200
Are you stupid? Reducing LdL particles in your blood stream is benefiting the heart from plaque formations

Take an Iq test

Anonymous No. 16313286

>>16313249
>Reducing LdL particles in your blood stream is benefiting the heart from plaque formations
I'm sorry anon you seem to be under a flawed misunderstanding about the role of low density lipoproteins and cholesterol.

I understand why you think this way, it's ultimately because medical dogma wedded itself to the idea that ldl causes heart disease for a variety of reasons.
However modern research methods and reevaluations of historical studies have refuted this theory.

Here's a fairly quick video by Dr Paul Mason covering some of the issues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lRXZfs6Sjs

We can continue this discussion later after you familiarise yourself with the evidence so you don't resort to ad hominem attacks.

Raphael No. 16313344

>>16313286
Then why do people with hyperlipidemia get cvd

Anonymous No. 16313348

>>16212580
>make us consume seed oils and sugar
Are these ebil scientists force feeding you sugar as we speak?

Anonymous No. 16313351

>>16313205
It's still here
>>16292571
Some vegan goy asked me to post physique then cried about it

Anonymous No. 16313378

>>16313344
Those are genetic freaks, the mechanism will differ to normal people.
We are talking about dietary effects on normal people.
Read Malcolm Kendrick's book the clot thicken's if you want more on the topic.
but get back to me when you've updated your knowledge.

Raphael No. 16313455

>>16313378
Lipid hypothesis still stands

Anonymous No. 16313466

>>16313455
You don't even understand what the lipid hypotheses means.
I don't want to discuss this firther with you, please spend a few days or weeks whichever is necessary exploring the updated studies. It will be a more satisfying experience for both of us if we are debating from a more contemporary position.

Raphael No. 16313679

>>16313466
You are just stupid

Take the old gre and tell me what you get

Anonymous No. 16313686

>>16313679
Anon I would like to cultivate a real debate.

Please take the time to familiarise yourself with the actual arguments.

Anonymous No. 16313704

>>16313455
Who determines if something "still stands"? Is there a central "Science Truth Determination Commission" that grants such standing?

Anonymous No. 16314107

>>16313704
rich jews

Anonymous No. 16314118

>>16313455
What do you think the lipid hypothesis is? Please don't use google and use your own words.

Anonymous No. 16314229

>>16314118
lipids are causing humans to develop cancer, high cholesterol, and die

Anonymous No. 16314444

>>16314229
how?

Anonymous No. 16314805

>>16314444
cholesterol destroying the blood vessels and the heart

Anonymous No. 16314950

>>16314805
But cholesterol isn't a lipid?
Anyway how does the cholesterol destroy the blood vessels and heart and where does this cholesterol in our bodies come from?

Anonymous No. 16314953

>>16212580
"Scientists" promote LGBT terrorists and their sodomite filth.

>>16278484
Something most "scientists" never use.

Anonymous No. 16316291

>>16314950
WHEN YOU EAT FOOD IT GOES DIRECTLY INTO YOUR BLOOD STREAM, THE DIGESTIVE SYSTEM ISN'T REAL, ITS A BIG CONSPIRACY. OTHER ANIMALS PRODUCE ENDOGENOUS CHOLESTEROL BUT HUMANS DON'T. I AM VERY SMART!!!!

Anonymous No. 16317722

>>16314953
>"Scientists" promote LGBT terrorists and their sodomite filth.
Agreed also