🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 05:48:51 UTC No. 16256115
Man Out of Space Easy - M.O.O.S.E. edition
also known as how they're getting the Starliner astronauts back
previous: >>16253760
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 05:50:44 UTC No. 16256118
>>16256115
looks comfy.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 05:51:35 UTC No. 16256123
>>16256118
I don't know, anon
I don't FEEL comfy
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 05:52:14 UTC No. 16256124
http://spacex.org
huh
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 05:52:20 UTC No. 16256125
>>16256115
Would prefer you didnt leave a message in the OP but its a cool OP and otherwise observes the normal layout, so good job!
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 05:53:05 UTC No. 16256129
https://leap71.com/2024/06/18/leap-
>LEAP71, a Dubai-based AI engineering company, announced today the successful test firing of a liquid rocket engine created entirely through Noyron, the company’s Large Computational Engineering Model. The engine was designed autonomously without human intervention and then 3D-printed in copper. The rocket thruster was successfully hot-fired at a rocket test stand in the UK.
former Hyperganic guys
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 05:53:21 UTC No. 16256130
>>16256124
Probably malware the official website is .com dont click
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 05:54:27 UTC No. 16256133
>>16256130
its a website made in 1999 and last updated in 2020
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 05:55:30 UTC No. 16256135
>>16256129
https://archive.is/YZvWE
for the schizos. 3d printed with copper
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 05:57:00 UTC No. 16256140
>>16256129
>Dubai
>AI
>3D-printed
man are some VCs gonna get milked by this. engine looks cool though.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 05:58:05 UTC No. 16256143
>>16256133
>theyve been paying for this domain for 25 years
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 05:58:27 UTC No. 16256144
spaceflight!
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 05:59:31 UTC No. 16256147
>>16256143
probably hoping spacex pays big bucks for the domain. Pretty cool though.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:00:08 UTC No. 16256149
>>16256147
why would they shell out for a .org when they already have the .com?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:00:33 UTC No. 16256150
>>16256144
Decollage
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:01:11 UTC No. 16256152
>>16256125
you're a gay nigger and I'll do whatever I please
>>16256130
it's actually just a time portal to the 90s, some STEM outreach nonprofit has a good website
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:01:35 UTC No. 16256153
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/
Tower 2 will be fully stacked by 8/15. Thats ~1.5 months from now.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:01:55 UTC No. 16256154
>>16256151
SHE'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE CAPSULE, SHE SHOULD BE LEAKING!
FUCKING INCOMPETENT MONKEY!
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:02:43 UTC No. 16256156
>>16256152
Kek retard
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:02:55 UTC No. 16256157
>>16256154
she is doing her best
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:03:02 UTC No. 16256159
>>16256154
agreed. she should be sticking the probe into wherever it is she might be leaking from if we're trying to keep things logical.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:06:03 UTC No. 16256163
>>16256159
there are rules to this sort of thing (moe anthropomorphizations) actually, you should read the manga Tsugumomo if you would like to know more
tl;dr the anime girl is totally allowed to stand next to the capsule and do work
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:06:33 UTC No. 16256165
>>16256159
bajina?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:06:34 UTC No. 16256166
>>16256159
Thats not how they detect leaks anon. And sticking probes into open wounds on your stomache would be gross to see snd draw.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:07:33 UTC No. 16256169
>>16256166
how do they detect helium leaks? soapy water I assume?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:07:48 UTC No. 16256170
>>16256165
Fuck off coomer
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:08:41 UTC No. 16256171
>>16256170
Hey relax man, learn sex positivity
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:09:33 UTC No. 16256173
>>16256171
you can do sex positivity on your own time
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:12:24 UTC No. 16256177
>>16256173
right, they're paying us to platonically post anthropomorphic rocket girls, not sexualize them.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:13:30 UTC No. 16256178
>>16256177
yeah
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:15:30 UTC No. 16256181
>>16256135
Xenomorph type alien ass looking ai designed parts are so fucking cool bros
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:15:34 UTC No. 16256182
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:15:50 UTC No. 16256183
did some zoomer infect the general recently or something? the levels of retard IQ spamposting has gone way up. this isn't a discord or twitch bro
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:18:03 UTC No. 16256184
>>16256183
pic related:
me, on the right, making good posts
you, on the left, shitting your pants for no reason
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:20:00 UTC No. 16256187
>>16256183
You're so emotional
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:24:34 UTC No. 16256194
>>16256183
I said this last thread then the zoomer in question got assmad that I figured him out. There are other newfags but its only one thats being genuine aids. You can see his two replies above this post
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:26:04 UTC No. 16256195
>>16256194
yeah okay schizo, I've been here since the beginning
a little bit of funposting never hurt anybody
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:28:01 UTC No. 16256199
>>16256195
No you havent and yes it does you are genuinely shitting up the threads and disrupting actual spaceflight discussion. Post rockets not anime women named after the rockets. One is spaceflight the other is >>>/a/ bound
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:30:30 UTC No. 16256201
And still, no one took my advice of >>16254460.
https://www.rocketlaunch.live/
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:31:51 UTC No. 16256204
>>16256199
Why dont you like my posts? I only post spaceflight
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:33:45 UTC No. 16256209
>>16256199
Where do you think you are?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:34:08 UTC No. 16256210
>>16256199
uh huh? is that true? go back to /n/
>>16256200
shut up
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:34:17 UTC No. 16256211
>>16256201
we've tried doing that sort of thing before but OPs are too lazy to keep it going for very long
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:35:09 UTC No. 16256214
>>16256201
putting things in the OP is gay as fuck
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:35:30 UTC No. 16256215
>>16256211
Ai yi yi... I see. Well, thanks for explaining why that didn't happen this time then. Still confused on how the fuck we have a whole ass staging system on this board but somehow we can't think to copy and paste a basic layout that contains relevant information and tack on an edition afterwards. Like, seriously, if /vg/ can coordinate that, then why can't we?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:36:59 UTC No. 16256216
>>16256215
if I could get away without putting "edition" in the OP I would
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:42:01 UTC No. 16256220
Tunnel Boring Machines on Mars...
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:45:08 UTC No. 16256223
>>16256169
they have unpaid interns stand around it and check if any start sounding silly when they talk
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:48:09 UTC No. 16256226
nah fuck it's Boeing I guarantee you they don't use soapy water
they use fucking ethylene glycol with some added surfactant
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 06:48:59 UTC No. 16256227
>>16256223
unfortunately the unpaid boeing interns were all jeets so this proved to be a very unreliable system for isolating leaks. they're working on an improved method for cft-2.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 07:06:32 UTC No. 16256246
>>16256163
tsugumomo is based.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 07:23:13 UTC No. 16256262
>>16256169
soapy water works great on massive leaks, but good luck finding 0.001 mL/minute leaks
You would generally use a handheld thermal conductivity detector
you have a resistive wire in a set volume and blow air through it - if you're blowing air at known temperature and volume, resistive wire should remain at constant temperature
helium has about 10 timer higher thermal conductivity that almost all other gases, so when you get a small amount of helium in the measuring cell, the temperature of the wire starts to drop and resistivity of the wire rises, which you can detect electronically at very low levels.
This is why they fill up things they want tested with helium and check for helium rather than, say, argon or nitrogen and try to sniff up that. You cannot detect these gases this way.
When they say "helium leak", it often means a leak on a pipe that would carry oxygen or hydrogen.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 07:29:29 UTC No. 16256268
>>16256262
you can detect methane pretty well this way as well, although I think it's actually using infrared light to look for methane's characteristic absorption peak
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 07:35:08 UTC No. 16256273
what the FUCK did that Canadian just post in that other thread
he should unfuck his Chinese AK before he does anything else
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 07:44:46 UTC No. 16256279
>>16256273
Its a type 81
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 07:47:46 UTC No. 16256281
>>16256129
>>16256135
>pump explosive mixture into a tube
>ignite it
>it makes thrust
wow that's insane dude
it's just crazy man
wow
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 08:00:43 UTC No. 16256289
>>16256268
yeah, there are all kinds of detectors
helium is just particularly good because it has zero background signal and the only false positive possible is hydrogen
with IR, almost everything overlaps with everything, so the detection threshold is a lot higher
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 08:03:36 UTC No. 16256292
>>16256281
more typically it goes
>pump explosive mixture into a tube
>ignite it
>it explodes
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 08:49:25 UTC No. 16256319
How Bugatti CEO will BEAT Tesla with THIS Car!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxG
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 08:50:16 UTC No. 16256320
>>16256319
Bugatti's getting into spaceflight?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 08:54:05 UTC No. 16256325
>>16256319
Looks like a car for bugmen
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 09:27:13 UTC No. 16256336
>In another post tim said they had to cut the majority of the questions and interesting camera shots as they broke itar.
hmm, I wonder what was cut
there were quite many abrupt cuts inside the factory
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 09:28:17 UTC No. 16256337
>>16256336
That sucks. but I expected it to be the case.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 09:30:53 UTC No. 16256341
>>16256336
that's insane
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 09:33:06 UTC No. 16256343
>>16256336
Thats crazy
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 09:49:16 UTC No. 16256352
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 09:51:26 UTC No. 16256354
>>16256350
everyone knows CASC operates on xi time, it's not a big deal
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 09:51:44 UTC No. 16256355
>>16256350
the fall/winter should be peak launch season but yeah, its unlikely that they'll get to 100 launches
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 09:52:28 UTC No. 16256356
>>16256350
Chinese calendar, dipshit
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 09:53:53 UTC No. 16256358
>>16256356
Is it two years long? Maybe Glorious Five Year?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:07:42 UTC No. 16256369
>>16256361
Oh no... did we get too cocky /sfg/ kings?
Maybe space ISN'T the place?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:12:32 UTC No. 16256372
>>16256369
It's over. No one really wants to go to space and we've been exposed for the liars we are.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:13:52 UTC No. 16256373
>>16256361
>there is NO demand for 100 launches a year.
>the first company to ever try putting a constellation in orbit that requires 100 launches a year does it and it's a smashing success
>ah, yes, well. besides starlink, there is NO demand for 100 launches a year.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:14:34 UTC No. 16256374
>>16256372
It's true. Space is just airless arid plains and roggs. Everything you need is right here on the good old Earth.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:15:35 UTC No. 16256375
>>16256373
Well of course it's easy to be successful if you buy launches from yourself. It's just moving money around in a circle, there's no real profit.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:18:22 UTC No. 16256376
>>16256132
It's about time.
We've been waiting for over 20 years.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:18:42 UTC No. 16256379
>>16256153
woah that's insane
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:23:24 UTC No. 16256383
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:24:15 UTC No. 16256384
>>16256361
the US is creating alot of demand for itself by having the government invest into spaceflight, but india doesnt have that going for it. there's no manned spaceflight there, no space stations, no megaconstellations, nothing.
🗑️ Barkon at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:24:34 UTC No. 16256386
Space in an NPC getto. It nothing.
🗑️ Barkon at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:27:19 UTC No. 16256388
ALERT ALL SPACEFLIGHT NERDS.
Trvth
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:27:21 UTC No. 16256389
>>16256361
"Invention is the mother of necessity" - Thorstein Veblen
🗑️ Barkon at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:28:53 UTC No. 16256391
>>16256389
"I'm a spaceflight nerd faggot" - You
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:29:54 UTC No. 16256393
>>16256391
"I'm projecting" - Barkon
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:34:10 UTC No. 16256398
>>16256375
not sure if this is bait, but customers do actually pay to use starlink
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:51:07 UTC No. 16256412
20 min to 22nd flight of a F9
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 10:59:32 UTC No. 16256417
>Starlink 10-3
what does the 10-3 mean
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:01:52 UTC No. 16256420
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:01:53 UTC No. 16256421
>>16256361
I feel like with oneweb and kuiper only now getting started this is going to look very stupid in one or two years.
Not to mention every military on earth wanting their own starshield.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:04:33 UTC No. 16256423
>>16256417
it's the third launch for starlink group 10
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:08:41 UTC No. 16256428
>>16256421
oneweb already launched all of their satellites for now, and kuiper is spoken for
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:09:09 UTC No. 16256429
>>16256115
its over or is chatgpt wrong?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:12:19 UTC No. 16256433
What the fuck caused a third of the T-Mobile sats to fail?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:12:33 UTC No. 16256435
>>16256433
source
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:15:47 UTC No. 16256438
>>16256429
missing a lot of relevant factors
how long is the trip going to be? that determines the required speed
fusion as such won't be enough for non-generation ships
another thing that starts to come up pretty quickly is that if you start to go at relativistic speeds or even much above 1% the speed of light then the shielding requirements start to be very large too
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:17:43 UTC No. 16256439
BORING LAUNCH
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:18:20 UTC No. 16256440
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1806283
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:19:03 UTC No. 16256441
>>16256435
I saw someone retweet it yesterday, but apparently 13 of the satellites are still gradually moving towards their intended height while six of them are slowly falling. I saw a pretty good graph showing the altitudes in the tweet. Maybe someone here will repost it.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:20:25 UTC No. 16256443
>>16256429
and here i used to think i was a lazy shit for doing all my rocket equation daydreaming on wolframalpha. you can get much better performance than that from fusion, i've seen papers on NTRS throw around 900ks ISP using alpha particle emission. overall something propellantless like laser sails would make for a much more appealing option.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:22:12 UTC No. 16256444
>>16256417
3 failed on liftoff.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:22:57 UTC No. 16256446
landed
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:23:01 UTC No. 16256447
>>16256440
Are there really over 100K people watching a normal starlink launch?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:23:25 UTC No. 16256448
B1062 lands for the 22nd time
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:27:24 UTC No. 16256451
>>16256448
How much is the total savings by now?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:29:14 UTC No. 16256456
>>16256438
i told it to use 0.1 c as speed and 10 tons which are supposed to be delivered to another planet, the real requirements to colonize another planet with humans are probably much higher.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:32:12 UTC No. 16256460
>>16256456
You have to used beamed propulsion in some form for that.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:32:43 UTC No. 16256461
spacex: "see, reusability is profitable. if there isnt demand then just create some."
other launchers: "no" *goes out of business instead of trying* "how could this happen to me???"
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:37:25 UTC No. 16256463
>>16256461
Authentic demand is better than artificial demand.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:39:09 UTC No. 16256465
Was space colonisation the final goal of humanity since our birth? We've been looking up to the stars wondering what's out there since before we even had languages. In order to ensure our survival, we must expand beyond Terra and the Helios System. So in a way, it was our destiny all along. The final test for the human race. Can we make it happen?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:39:10 UTC No. 16256466
>>16256463
right, you only make artificial dollars when your megaconstellation turns into the biggest revenue generator in the history of commercial spaceflight
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:40:32 UTC No. 16256468
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:41:26 UTC No. 16256470
>>16256465
yeah, sure, i dunno
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:41:31 UTC No. 16256471
>>16256465
>Was space colonisation the final goal of humanity since our birth?
no its obviously to create an eternal universe paradise
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:50:06 UTC No. 16256480
>>16256443
>>16256460
it seems like 900ks is also not enough. the problem with laser sails and beam propulsion is that you need to deaccelerate the spaceship many light years away and there beamed propulsion or solar sails wont help you much. and according chatgpt you need 285 nuclear power plants running for one year to get enough power to accelerate 10 tons to 0.1 c and there it assumes 100% efficiency but the efficiency of propulsion with light pressure is much much lower.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:51:46 UTC No. 16256482
>>16256480
You wouldn't use reactors, you'd have arrays of orbiting solar collectors inside the orbit of mercury.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 11:51:56 UTC No. 16256483
>>16256477
art
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:19:14 UTC No. 16256505
>>16256480
900ks ISP is not the same thing as 900 km/s exhaust velocity. it's like 8 million m/s exhaust velocity.
>you need to deaccelerate
decelerate, eslfriend
>the spaceship many light years away and there beamed propulsion or solar sails wont help you much
even if you have to do all the deceleration propulsively that's still cutting the mass in half. but you could probably send some small robot craft up ahead to build a deceleration laser ahead of your big colonization ship.
>you need 285 nuclear power plants
when you're talking interstellar colonization then that's peanuts
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:21:20 UTC No. 16256510
>>16256505
>>you need 285 nuclear power plants
>when you're talking interstellar colonization then that's peanuts
Yeah but think of the regulatory hurdles.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:21:31 UTC No. 16256511
https://www.alumnifounders.com/
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:22:49 UTC No. 16256513
>>16256505
way more than cutting it in half as you don't need to accelerate the propellant you need for the rest of the acceleration phase
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:23:18 UTC No. 16256516
>>16256505
>even if you have to do all the deceleration propulsively that's still cutting the mass in half. but you could probably send some small robot craft up ahead to build a deceleration laser ahead of your big colonization ship.
I mean... wouldn't you just need a mirror? I don't think it matters if the mirror accelerates while decelerating the craft as long as it can adjust to the changing velocity difference (something it'd have to do anyways).
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:24:38 UTC No. 16256518
>>16256516
if you had a solar sail that was big enough but that isn't realistic, the beamed power when you leave is much more concentrated than just ambient light from the star you are going to
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:26:36 UTC No. 16256521
>>16256518
I meant accelerating a robot mirror (or two for symmetrical force) ahead of the colony ship for the laser to bounce off of and hitting the ship from ahead slowing it down.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:29:48 UTC No. 16256525
if India wants some fucking launched they should invest in earth to earth launches
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:32:35 UTC No. 16256531
>>16256521
Yeah that's been looked into. Robert Forward did some sketches of it. I'm not sure if it's been worked out rigorously.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:32:42 UTC No. 16256532
>>16256521
you want to beam power from one star to another?
sounds more complicated than just sending robotic probes and building a similar system at the destination star as you have at sol
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:35:32 UTC No. 16256537
>>16256532
I was thinking more a situation where you don't already have stuff there. Like for sending the robots that builds the deceleration laser.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:35:32 UTC No. 16256538
>Russian satellite just randomly explodes
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:41:05 UTC No. 16256543
I want to see something lithobrake at interstellar velocities
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:41:18 UTC No. 16256544
>>16256537
I guess if the alternative is some super slow fusion powered drones
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:41:21 UTC No. 16256545
>>16256129
Due to the combination of retard arab future hype spending and a female lead (sole?) engineer I expected this to be pure garbage. After reviewing the link I have upgraded this to "interesting experiment"
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:42:55 UTC No. 16256546
>>16256538
>Pssh... nothin' personel kid.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:45:10 UTC No. 16256548
>>16256540
they should just trail a really long cable behind them and then pull on that to slow down. the other end is obviously attached to the earth or moon or perhaps a full fueled starship.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:48:23 UTC No. 16256553
>>16256211
>>16256215
Ive also asked in a recent thread if the links were wanted and everybody that replied said
>no, we like to have a clean OP at /sfg/ unlike other inferior generals
This was of course before the flood of newfags. And newfag opinions dont matter on this. You are from /vg/.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:52:52 UTC No. 16256554
>>16256215
>copy and paste a basic layout that contains relevant information
We're not zoomer faggots, that's why
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:53:16 UTC No. 16256555
>>16256281
I guess the more significant thing is that it didn't melt. However they only ran it for a few seconds and they claim that the pressure drop was higher than expected in the cooling channels, so the design was likely a failure in terms of cooling.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:54:53 UTC No. 16256557
>>16256336
>ITAR prevents broadcasting Rick and Morty references
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:55:22 UTC No. 16256559
>>16256538
they're putting out official statements now with no chimpouts about ASAT so i'm guessing everyone's pretty sure it was just your bog-standard spontaneous orbital blowout
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:56:37 UTC No. 16256560
>>16256555
>pressure drop was higher than expected in the cooling channels
What does that mean? Coolant vaporising?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:57:24 UTC No. 16256561
>>16256521
This feels like troll physics. You're just bouncing light off mirrors all the way down
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:57:46 UTC No. 16256562
>>16256336
Elon's unprompted antisemitic rants
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:58:20 UTC No. 16256564
>>16256560
or maybe their CFD software just sucks
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:59:12 UTC No. 16256566
>>16256510
You mean the same regulatory hurdles that are finally being tackled with ADVANCE?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:59:36 UTC No. 16256567
>>16256361
I can't believe the street shitter and surrender monkey would just claim Kuiper doesn't exist. How will Jeff (who?) ever recover?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:00:50 UTC No. 16256568
>>16256561
don’t over-use the bob reaction image. It’s best left saved for actual schizo posts
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:02:28 UTC No. 16256571
>>16256553
I miss when /sfg/ watched rockets other than SpaceX, watching startups explode was a ton of fun. I move for including https://nextspaceflight.com/
at the top of the threads with whatever the next launch is.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:03:13 UTC No. 16256572
>>16256568
Sorry my /sfg/ reaction image folder is lacking.
Post more to add to my collection.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:04:43 UTC No. 16256573
>>16256375
>posted within 24 hours of SpaceX making a cool $800 million on a trash incineration run
please, tell me more
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:04:59 UTC No. 16256574
>>16256569
it's over 600 m/s, which is pretty high for a station ferry but they need the extra prop for launch aborts.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:06:07 UTC No. 16256576
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:08:04 UTC No. 16256577
>>16256571
/sfg/ does watch other rockets retard, even RFA testing was interesting. It's just that the small launch companies apart from hobbitlab haven't launched for a while.
I don't want the OP to be crammed full of useless links that I'm not going to use anyway since I have my own RSS feed.
If you're really set on this just do something like what the roman town crier anon used to do.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:11:26 UTC No. 16256579
>>16256571
post when upcoming launches are coming, the link doesn't need to be in the OP
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:12:53 UTC No. 16256580
>>16256560
What they built was significantly different than the design because their 3D printing technology sucks and didn't make smooth surfaces, and as a result the flow through their cooling channels sucks
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:14:47 UTC No. 16256585
>>16256571
>I miss when /sfg/ watched rockets other than SpaceX
ma'am, this is a spaceflight thread
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:16:20 UTC No. 16256587
>>16256571
I will be watching many Chinese rockets on July 4
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:16:36 UTC No. 16256588
>>16256585
If you didn't watch the powerslide live then idk what to tell you anon
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:19:00 UTC No. 16256590
>>16256588
Best launch ever.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:19:01 UTC No. 16256591
I'm surprised tesla didn't bid on the lunar rover.
Couldn't you just chuck up an normal tesla car and it drive just fine in a vacuum? Well besides the tires but nothing else should cause issues for an electric car right?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:20:05 UTC No. 16256593
>>16256591
Has to have a rather hefty throttle limiter.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:21:32 UTC No. 16256594
>>16256593
Why?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:22:41 UTC No. 16256596
>>16256594
Because gravity is a thing?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:23:13 UTC No. 16256597
>>16256591
too much other stuff going on at Tesla right now, they don't have the bandwidth for a distraction like that
in the future maybe, I wouldn't be surprised
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:23:35 UTC No. 16256598
>>16256596
What does that have to do with it?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:40:55 UTC No. 16256608
>>16256598
Go play KSP and tell us what happens when you drive at 70m/s across the Mun.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:42:55 UTC No. 16256610
>>16256608
>ksp
LOL
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:48:49 UTC No. 16256619
>>16256608
Sorry sweaty but miles per hour is the preferred measurement for driving on the moon
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:51:27 UTC No. 16256621
>>16256619
>fact check myself
>the apollo Lunar Rover used km/h
killing myself
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:52:09 UTC No. 16256622
>>16256608
>70m/s
Thats over 250 km/h.
Cybertruck maxs out at 180.
Thats a problem you made up.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:52:11 UTC No. 16256623
>>16256621
m/s is the proper usage away from Earth
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:54:26 UTC No. 16256627
General Purpose Regolith Rover
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:55:53 UTC No. 16256630
>>16256623
Gene Cernan talked about his speed record on the moon in terms of km/h if i remember rightly
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 13:57:05 UTC No. 16256632
Booster has been slapped once again
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:03:28 UTC No. 16256634
>>16256591
>Well besides the tires but nothing else should cause issues for an electric car right?
cooling, I suppose - if you were to really step on it
nothing you could not fix with a radiator and the already existing power limiter though
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:04:37 UTC No. 16256635
>>16256588
>the pan up, then back down
Gets me every time. Straight out of a TV show.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:07:09 UTC No. 16256636
>>16256588
The seagull is moving faster than the rocket
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:10:30 UTC No. 16256639
Why not just deploy a giant parachute, and shoot fuel into it?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:13:44 UTC No. 16256642
Wait, the decceleration would be cancelled out by the propulsion.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:13:55 UTC No. 16256643
>>16256639
wow thats crazy
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:14:43 UTC No. 16256644
>>16256639
dodd moment
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:16:00 UTC No. 16256648
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAh
lunar sintered bricks
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:18:03 UTC No. 16256652
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:19:39 UTC No. 16256653
>Analysis of the Bennu sample unveiled intriguing insights into the asteroid’s composition. Dominated by clay minerals, particularly serpentine, the sample mirrors the type of rock found at mid-ocean ridges on Earth, where material from the mantle, the layer beneath Earth’s crust, encounters water.
>This interaction doesn’t just result in clay formation; it also gives rise to a variety of minerals like carbonates, iron oxides, and iron sulfides. But the most unexpected discovery is the presence of water-soluble phosphates. These compounds are components of biochemistry for all known life on Earth today.
https://www.nasa.gov/missions/osiri
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:19:49 UTC No. 16256654
bratty tiny booster needs slap correction
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:20:43 UTC No. 16256655
>>16256636
Birds intuit the location and speed of rockets and debris.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:21:51 UTC No. 16256656
>>16256653
rogg science
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:26:12 UTC No. 16256660
>>16256655
The most bizarre launch, I think everyone was drunk that day
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:28:06 UTC No. 16256662
>>16256636
it was a really big seagull too. damn thing nearly put the ailing rocket out of its misery
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:29:08 UTC No. 16256663
>>16256656
rogger that
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:45:47 UTC No. 16256680
>>16256678
I’ll bite wtf is a slap and why does everyone keep throwing that word around
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:46:39 UTC No. 16256681
>>16256680
14,1 is getting slapped by the tower arms repeatedly
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:47:35 UTC No. 16256683
>>16256588
I watched it. But it belongs in an anime thread.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:47:38 UTC No. 16256684
>>16256681
I get that but what does that mean? Is it beating on the side of the tank like the houston astros with a trash can or something
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:48:22 UTC No. 16256686
>>16256571
We've got a big Asia weekend coming up. Japan's going to have its first operational launch of the H3 this Saturday and China's sending an undisclosed payload towards geostationary orbit on a Long March 7A. Both of those will have streams.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:48:23 UTC No. 16256687
>>16256680
booster needs a bit of slapping around. its young and only responds to physical disciple.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:49:40 UTC No. 16256689
>>16256680
B14.1 is getting hit by the chopsticks on purpose, probably to check tolerances for a catch attempt.
Also, Shockwave propagation from the GOES-U booster landings
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:50:16 UTC No. 16256690
>>16256634
cooling is easy
just use the body of the vehicle as a sunshade for the motors and batteries
t. orbital data center retard from the last thread
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:51:35 UTC No. 16256692
>>16256639
Could the parachute have "I'm Pickle Rick" written on it?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:53:01 UTC No. 16256695
>>16256643
yeah
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:53:52 UTC No. 16256696
>>16256692
kek
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:56:11 UTC No. 16256700
Based on that video from the other day of the Chinese booster landing in a village, it seemed to be coming in pretty slow.
If it had a parachute in the engine bay, not a huge one but a drogue to make it fall tank first, could the tank be used as a shock absorber? Have it act as a crumple zone to keep the valuable engine intact, then pull off and reuse the engine?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:56:25 UTC No. 16256701
>>16256684
its a bad booster
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 14:58:40 UTC No. 16256703
>>16256700
Fuck no, real life isn’t ksp dude that engine would be toast
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:00:34 UTC No. 16256706
>>16256703
A similar principle worked for shuttle and hobbitlab. I am suggesting trading the sea landing and some of the parachute size for tank integrity.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:02:56 UTC No. 16256708
>>16256706
NASA thought the thick SRBs would be more than enough to protect the important hardware on a reuse splashdown (as opposed to a LRB)
They were wrong. Those SRBs needed a ton of time/resources for refurb just from the impact alone—and they were even tanked up to try and take an impact
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:03:52 UTC No. 16256709
>>16256680
They need to know that the booster can take being knocked around by the arms, and it's better to find out now than when a catch attempt is underway.
>>16256686
I miss when the Newsreader would alert anons of upcoming launches like this, I'll watch the Japan one for sure.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:25:32 UTC No. 16256727
https://x.com/teslaownersSV/status/
Starship for scale
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:26:16 UTC No. 16256728
>>16256717
I dont know why they have her speak, she's not a good speaker
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:31:28 UTC No. 16256736
>>16256728
No one cares. What people want is information. All the spacex speakers aren't professional speakers.
i.e
https://youtu.be/9SZ3mVGBiiI
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:32:37 UTC No. 16256738
>>16256736
You're so fucking wrong it hurts
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:33:09 UTC No. 16256739
>>16256734
I for one am shocked.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:34:31 UTC No. 16256741
>>16256734
Kek. So worthless they have to resort to making sure anybody who can compete with them cant participate
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:34:35 UTC No. 16256742
>>16256734
All they do is legislate and force compliance. It's why their society is collapsing
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:36:15 UTC No. 16256743
>>16256734
If this actually happened, Europe would lose spaceflight capability
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:37:07 UTC No. 16256744
>>16256734
More europeans should be pissed about this but none of them seem to care.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:39:11 UTC No. 16256747
>>16256680
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B62
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:39:19 UTC No. 16256748
>>16256744
It's more of a french space program than a european to be honest
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:40:39 UTC No. 16256749
>>16256744
The ESA is so far removed from anything an EU citizen can influence it's comical. What am I going to do, start a rocket launching business in the most business hostile continent in the world?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:41:35 UTC No. 16256751
>>16256734
>use tax money to make a shitty product
>make it illegal to use another else
It's a miracle the Euros haven't starved themselves all to death yet
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:43:00 UTC No. 16256752
>>16256751
anything else, derp
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:43:44 UTC No. 16256753
>>16256749
Well you could start by advocating less business hostility and innovation stifling in general.
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:43:55 UTC No. 16256754
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T6
when will SpaceX be ready to release the controversial bird flying through rocket exhaust video?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:46:11 UTC No. 16256756
>>16256754
wtf bros is this real
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:47:42 UTC No. 16256759
>>16256753
About all I can do. Fuck actually becoming a politician though so it's just pissing into an ocean of piss for me.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:53:59 UTC No. 16256762
>>16256754
can you not post stuff like this here?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 15:59:58 UTC No. 16256766
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:02:17 UTC No. 16256770
>>16256754
Why the fuck haven't they installed warning signals so they fly away? Incredibly sad and easily avoidable.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:03:40 UTC No. 16256773
total bird death
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:08:03 UTC No. 16256776
I just wanted to say, these are the good days. Seemingly every day there is something new happening with space, and we have access to dedicated reporters, livestreams, memes, a turbo autist Uber rich visionary, and court drama like never before. It's never been better to be a space fan. Please pay respects to the 70s and 80s space fans for what they endured and the lost potential.
This thread is fun.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:08:59 UTC No. 16256777
>>16256571
We had one recently where were you??
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:11:32 UTC No. 16256780
>>16256689
goes u a cute
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:14:15 UTC No. 16256782
>>16256776
Dragonfly was delayed and the chief flights engineer is awol
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:15:11 UTC No. 16256784
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/18
China will get Mars return sample. One of the first of many China firsts to come this decade.
>First to land on far side of the moon
>First to return sample from far side of the moon
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:16:21 UTC No. 16256786
>>16256777
That was a good one
>>16256784
I would be more skeptical if their first lander/rover hadn't worked out just fine, now I expect them to succeed.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:22:03 UTC No. 16256792
>>16256784
>Mars return sample
now that will be impressive. most impressive
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:31:57 UTC No. 16256797
>>16256784
Is there a proposed architecture for chinese MSR or is it just them saying they want to do it by that date?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:32:35 UTC No. 16256798
>>16256780
>Falcon 9 style leg prosthetics
Cute
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:45:34 UTC No. 16256803
>>16256784
>jupiter system exploration
this better not be a flyby, i want a multidecade orbiter doing a detailed survey of the moons. we need data.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:46:22 UTC No. 16256804
https://fireflyspace.com/news/ssc-a
>Swedish Space Corporation (SSC) and U.S. space transportation company Firefly Aerospace have signed a collaborative agreement to jointly launch satellites with Firefly’s Alpha rocket from the newly inaugurated spaceport at Esrange Space Center in Sweden, starting in 2026.
Sweden cucking UK's spaceports
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:46:42 UTC No. 16256805
>>16256751
this happens in the US all the time too, its so annoying
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:48:17 UTC No. 16256807
>>16256804
the scottish spaceport might not be ready
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:49:45 UTC No. 16256808
bit off topic but what have been the biggest innovations in internal combustion engines in the last 24 years? Has there been any substantial advancements or have engines essentially plateaued?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:55:33 UTC No. 16256812
>>16256361
Starlink is just a means to an end, to make money for Moon and Mars. Which is the real prize. This is transparent and a well known fact. Yet, all these companies keep talking about high launch rate to make another Starlink. It's scary how much the rest of the planet continues to miss the forest for the trees.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 16:59:06 UTC No. 16256816
>>16256743
They wouldn't lose capability, they'd just lose any kind of relevance. They'd need to find a way to fit all of their space ambitions inside of a 180 ton per year mass budget, which isn't going to be a good look in an age defined by permanently crewed lunar outposts.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:02:11 UTC No. 16256819
>>16256812
Elon Musk is unfortunately the only person in all of spaceflight with both power and vision. No one else with vision has the power to realize it and everyone else with power is complacent.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:05:58 UTC No. 16256823
>>16256689
I don't think they can avoid the chopsticks making contact with the side of the booster because the steel is flexible and the armatures have to start and stop quickly, so it seems like they're seeing if they can just live with it.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:05:59 UTC No. 16256824
>>16256804
I think it's a bit overly ambitious for a rocket to go shopping for its fourth launch complex when it's only had a four launches in total and only one of those was a undisputed success.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:07:17 UTC No. 16256825
>>16256375
Lol, many companies before spaceX had dreams about building a satelite network that delivered world wide internet.
So far it's only spaceX that succesfully pulled it off.
The demand was always there, just look at the wide scale use starlink is getting.
From giving internet to every ship in the world to cesna's hooked up to starlink remotly flying over 2/3 of russia to strike a drone factory.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:07:45 UTC No. 16256826
>>16256824
I don’t understand this reusable launch site meme
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:10:50 UTC No. 16256827
>>16256824
>I think it's a bit overly ambitious for a rocket to go shopping for its fourth launch complex when it's only had a four launches in total and only one of those was a undisputed success.
thought you were talking about Starship there for a second kek
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:11:02 UTC No. 16256828
new kino just dropped
https://youtu.be/FQQQ3rytDDk
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:12:09 UTC No. 16256829
>>16256819
I actually believe in bezo's vision than musks.
Sadly seems like I believe it more than bezos does.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:14:28 UTC No. 16256832
>>16256829
Maybe if bezos put actual engineers and specialists in control of his rocket company instead of managers who have build their entire carreer on making profit at the cost of quality then he would have succes like spaceX.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:16:58 UTC No. 16256836
>>16256436
>starliner status?
This.
Too many of the mainstream outlets are lacking in detail of the current situation and approximate time frames.
Does anyone have a decent source?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:19:35 UTC No. 16256841
>>16256836
>official
>everything is okay, the leaks are only a small problem and starliner can return to earth with no problems
>unofficial
>we are pretty sure starliner can return to earth with no problems but we have been given extra time to make sure.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:20:56 UTC No. 16256842
>>16256841
No one wants to be that guy who let starliner return back to earth and have it fail even if the chance is low.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:22:09 UTC No. 16256843
>>16256832
Maybe if bezos believed in his own mission then he'd have the motivation to lead the company himself.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:23:55 UTC No. 16256846
>>16256843
But if he does that then where is he going to find the time to start all those lawsuits against spaceX?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:24:05 UTC No. 16256847
>>16256841
Thanks
I've also found
>https://apnews.com/article/boeing-
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:24:51 UTC No. 16256850
>>16256836
They've closed all the manifolds to prevent any helium leaks, there's still concern about the heatshield and they keep cancelling planned EVA's.
NASA/Boing will never admit that they fucked up, but they were only supposed to be there for a week, it's now nearing a month and the 45 day limit is getting closer, I read a Reuters article saying how 75 days might be do-able in an emergency which should tell you that the capsule is having major issues.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:26:07 UTC No. 16256851
>>16256828
thats insane
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:26:34 UTC No. 16256852
just shit ass, hope you're having a great day
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:27:22 UTC No. 16256854
>>16256850
thats crazy
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:28:20 UTC No. 16256856
Neat
https://youtu.be/5tlCgkZPmuY?si=bM7
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:28:55 UTC No. 16256858
>>16256850
>there's still concern about the heatshield
That's news to me, hmmm.
>From the AP article in >>16256847
>The capsule can remain at the space station for 45 days or longer if needed, Boeing said
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:31:02 UTC No. 16256863
>>16256808
Rotational detonation engines are being advanced, supposed to bring about a 25% increase in fuel efficiency
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:32:22 UTC No. 16256864
>>16256858
>That's news to me, hmmm.
Yeah me too, I thought Orion had the heat shield anomalies not Starliner?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:33:55 UTC No. 16256868
>>16256151
wait...
i just checked sbarky's xwitter and i don't see this post...
its really you...
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:34:47 UTC No. 16256871
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:35:52 UTC No. 16256872
>>16256864
Ah my bad confused the two
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:36:29 UTC No. 16256876
>>16256850
The EVA cancellations have more to do with the fact that the US spacesuits are forty years old and not in the best of shape than anything to do with Starliner. There was some quiet admission that Collins pulling out of the suit development program put NASA is a place they really didn't want to be.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:39:01 UTC No. 16256883
How long until SpaceX does everything for NASA, I feel like industry is in quite a bad shape.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:40:39 UTC No. 16256887
>>16256871
I hope to see that live one day.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:42:26 UTC No. 16256890
>>16256151
I hope Starliner burns up just so I can see what you'd draw that day.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:43:09 UTC No. 16256891
>>16256883
Other launcher companies have to be propped up for.nationak security purposes. Unironically cannot leave the entirety of US launch capability to Elon, or really any one person in general.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:47:49 UTC No. 16256895
>>16256891
Government seizure of starship blueprints WHEN?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:48:00 UTC No. 16256896
>>16256808
>biggest innovations in internal combustion engines in the last 24 years?
There have been small changes to get little bits of extra power here and there, but nothing massive. Variable Valve Timing was a fairly big thing, but that was pre-2000. Variable Compression Ratio is somewhat new (at least in mass production), but its still not a game changer.
I'm not sure if you are speaking about only ICE cars, but the NASA X-43 was built in 2004 using scramjet technology (which was pretty shit prior to NASA working on it).
Of course we have the Raptor engine now too.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:48:19 UTC No. 16256897
>>16256895
They handed it to them for HLS kek
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:48:47 UTC No. 16256898
>>16256871
I almost didn't drive down because I thought it was gonna scrub at 30% weather
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:56:43 UTC No. 16256906
>>16256904
>Permanent Orbital Fuel Depot for Moon + Mars missions
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:59:07 UTC No. 16256910
>>16256904
>Permanent Orbital Fuel Depot for Moon + Mars missions
that's going to be the biggest space station ever. fuel terminals on earth are huge.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 17:59:28 UTC No. 16256911
>>16256908
Why the fuck would you send it there? Graveyard orbit? Sure. Lunar orbit? Retarded
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:04:27 UTC No. 16256915
>>16256910
I'm just imagining a couple extended starships taped together (no heat shield or flap mass, mass used for much longer tanks)
That would still be the biggest space station ever
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:05:07 UTC No. 16256918
>>16256904
the room is so dead, and why do american women continue to be so fat
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:05:47 UTC No. 16256921
>>16256904
>expanding HWY-4
I thought SpaceX was going to build another road for public use and be given HWY-4 for their own use.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:06:37 UTC No. 16256924
>>16256921
It is unironically not that easy in highwayery
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:06:37 UTC No. 16256925
https://x.com/spacesudoer/status/18
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:08:42 UTC No. 16256927
>>16256925
>not edited
It is sped up, right?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:08:50 UTC No. 16256928
>>16256924
>It is unironically not that easy in highwayery
lmao, you just pour asphalt on the ground, it literally is that easy
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:09:12 UTC No. 16256929
>>16256921
the beetles
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:09:27 UTC No. 16256930
>>16256927
no they slowed the song down
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:13:26 UTC No. 16256938
>>16256928
Construction is the easiest part. Land acquisition and regulatory bullshit is the hard part
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:14:55 UTC No. 16256943
>>16256904
ITS OVER
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:15:08 UTC No. 16256946
>>16256928
Build roads is a huge pain in the ass
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:16:28 UTC No. 16256948
Is shartliner just dead at this point?
All the contracted nasa missions for it go up to 2029, right before the end of the ISS.
After that not only would shartliner need to fly on a different rocket but they'd need to find commercial customers.
Does starliner have a future at all?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:17:14 UTC No. 16256952
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:17:50 UTC No. 16256954
>>16256948
I don't think it will be flying anymore because knowing Boeing they won't be able to fix everything before ISS goes down.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:23:09 UTC No. 16256964
>>16256911
It'd be cool, which is always a valid reason.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:24:42 UTC No. 16256968
>>16256948
probably not dead, redundancy is still important for nasa. they dont want another shuttle situation.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:25:48 UTC No. 16256969
>>16256948
we can use it to send astronauts to the ISS
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:26:13 UTC No. 16256971
>>16256968
But wheres starliner gonna fly after it completes it's ISS missions? There'll be no ISS to fly too, orion flies to gateway. Who will keep starliner up and running?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:27:09 UTC No. 16256973
>>16256971
iss still has maybe 10 years left, there are only 6 shitliner flights
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:28:01 UTC No. 16256976
>>16256971
Axiom? Are they still around?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:28:56 UTC No. 16256980
oh yeah i forgot about the commercial replacement for the ISS. nasa would obviously like a redundant option, but boing will likely shut down starliner, so our only other non-spacex option is a manned variant of dreamchaser.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:31:49 UTC No. 16256982
>>16256976
They posted some stuff some time ago where they where actually building modules.
But with the news that nasa has given spaceX a contract to deorbit ISS by 2030.
And starship giving the capability around that same time to put up modules as big as the entire ISS in one launch they probably had to rework their plans for building these modules and the point of them.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:32:36 UTC No. 16256984
Why didn't they just have Boeing crash the ISS with no survivors?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:33:35 UTC No. 16256986
>butch and sunni hid in the shartliner for shelter after the russian satellite exploded
https://www.reuters.com/technology/
talk about heart pounding. you know you're fucked if you have to evac.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:33:50 UTC No. 16256987
>>16256982
how big is Starship payload volume compared to iss volume
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:33:55 UTC No. 16256988
https://x.com/SpaceNews_Inc/status/
Kuiper launch and service delayed to next year
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:35:44 UTC No. 16256992
>>16256976
>sneakily steals one of the ISS modules
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:36:11 UTC No. 16256994
>>16256986
>reuters
dumb tabloid shit
Actual news
>protocol is anytime sats break up, they take shelters
>then ground control makes risk assesment
>finds no issue atm
>resumes normal activity
Also its an old dead sats from russia
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:36:15 UTC No. 16256995
>>16256982
Good point, building a station little module by little module is going to look silly when multiple Starship-scale modules are going up.
>>16256987
10,500 cubits, slightly larger
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:39:51 UTC No. 16257002
>>16256948
If it can get back to White Sands without killing the crew, then it's a perfectly functional spacecraft and will have just enough time to get it's six operational missions in before the ISS takes the big swan dive into Point Nemo in 2030. It's got technical issues but none of those are serious enough to keep the program from proceeding.
After 2030 we'll be dealing with multiple commercially run space stations and will only have SpaceX's fleet of five crew dragons to get people to them. There should be enough opportunity there for Boeing to find customers and getting Vulcan a crew certification should require anything too onerous.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:40:44 UTC No. 16257007
>>16256988
https://spacenews.com/beta-project-
>TAMPA, Fla. — Initial Project Kuiper broadband services have slipped into 2025, Amazon said June 27 amid plans to launch its first batch of production satellites on an Atlas V rocket in the last three months of this year.
>Amazon had earlier aimed to start deploying more than 3,200 satellites in the first half of 2024 to begin beta trials with potential customers, including Verizon in the United States.
>Amazon expects to significantly increase satellite production and launch rates next year as it nears a July 2026 regulatory deadline for deploying half the constellation. Under the terms of its Federal Communication Commission license, the remaining satellites must be deployed three years later.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:42:23 UTC No. 16257012
>>16257008
grim
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:42:27 UTC No. 16257013
>>16256992
That's the euro lab module i think.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:42:46 UTC No. 16257014
>>16256829
Bezos' vision relies on LEO being profitable which is currently unproven. Musk's plan is to sprint towards a point where an inevitable decrease in funding/interest won't impact activity due to a self sufficient local economy. Honestly I think Musk is more realistic.
If you want economically feasible stations then the easiest way to them is industrialized Mars anyway
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:45:41 UTC No. 16257021
>>16257014
>economy
Based around what?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:46:52 UTC No. 16257027
>>16257014
by local economy I understand you mean local to mars?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:49:40 UTC No. 16257032
>>16257021
based around people doing stuff on mars, just like how economic activity is created on earth
>>16257027
yes
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:50:17 UTC No. 16257035
>>16257021
Staying alive, same as Earth
>>16257027
Yes
>>16257032
What the heck you aren't me
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:51:17 UTC No. 16257038
>>16257032
>>16257035
>yes
What valuable things could Martians offer us to make it worth our while spending millions on rocket launches?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:51:29 UTC No. 16257040
>>16256973
Yeah and all starliner flights to the ISS are booked to 2029. Assuming no more delays of course.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:51:52 UTC No. 16257041
>>16256553
>you are from /vg/
Actually I mostly linger in /trash/'s /nah/ and /vp/.
Either way, disappointing but I'm far from demanding places change their ways if there's a reason to keep doing this. I don't agree with this reason, but I am not going to try to change the minds of everyone here.
>>16256577
Hey, if you have an RSS feed, mind sharing it? Watching Youtube videos has been time consuming but I genuinely don't know any other proper way outside of literally looking at foreign road closures.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:52:19 UTC No. 16257044
>>16257032
>doing stuff
Sounds profitable.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:52:23 UTC No. 16257045
>>16257021
>>16257027
>>16257032
>>16257035
the duality of /sfg/
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:53:02 UTC No. 16257047
just imagine how bad astroonomers are going to chimp out once spacex starts building the orbital depot. iss looks like a small dot in the sky but that thing will look like a small moon.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:53:43 UTC No. 16257050
When will the first McDonalds open up on Mars?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:53:49 UTC No. 16257051
>>16257044
you know how an economy works?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:54:13 UTC No. 16257053
>>16257002
>will only have SpaceX's fleet of five crew dragons to get people to them
Do you seriously believe this? We'll definitely have crewed starship by 2030.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:55:06 UTC No. 16257056
>>16257050
>$100 value menu
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:56:02 UTC No. 16257058
>>16257047
Wait till we replace street lights
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:56:31 UTC No. 16257060
>>16257047
The fuck did you just say you little punk?!!!
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:57:20 UTC No. 16257062
>>16257038
Absolutely nothing. That's why it's essential for an autistic billionaire to spend his entire fortune establishing a mostly independent economy. Mars won't be profitable. Hence Musk's fixation on self sustaining.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:58:04 UTC No. 16257064
>>16257060
>Shelby retires
>depots start going up right away
>deep space missions suddenly possible
/sfg/ will have to remind people whose fault this was that it took so long.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 18:59:26 UTC No. 16257068
>>16256904
>24/7 permanent orbital depot
>expanding HWY 4 to a 4 lane road
HUEG
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:02:00 UTC No. 16257073
>>16257064
When my life was in the shitter I came to the realization that the most important thing I could do for space flight was [setup a galacticraft Minecraft server and play Minecraft with] Shelby. When I researched him to find out how I could [get in touch with him to play Minecraft] he had announced the week prior that he was retiring. I was almost your hero
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:03:23 UTC No. 16257074
>>16257073
does Bozo play minecraft?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:07:19 UTC No. 16257076
>>16257074
Yeah he has a huge base with really good defenses so I don't think a noob could join him in Minecraft
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:16:05 UTC No. 16257081
>>16256915
They'll just weld steel coils.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:16:29 UTC No. 16257082
>Permanent Orbital Fuel Depot for Moon + Mars missions
>>Permanent Orbital Fuel Depot for Moon + Mars missions
>>Permanent Orbital Fuel Depot for Moon + Mars missions
>>Permanent Orbital Fuel Depot for Moon + Mars missions
>>Permanent Orbital Fuel Depot for Moon + Mars missions
>>Permanent Orbital Fuel Depot for Moon + Mars missions
>Permanent Orbital Fuel Depot for Moon + Mars missions
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:24:43 UTC No. 16257084
>>16257082
Realistically how big would this thing be? Would it need a JWST autism tier sunshade or would radiators be fine? Could it be manned?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:25:50 UTC No. 16257087
>>16257074
Doesn't he have a Mars launch planned this year? Hang on, is Bezos about to get to Mars first?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:30:24 UTC No. 16257092
>>16257084
prolly just similar to this thing at first who knows
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:32:03 UTC No. 16257096
>>16256908
Nobody has a solar-electric thruster that can run for 22,000 hours before burning out.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:35:18 UTC No. 16257101
AirX when?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:37:04 UTC No. 16257105
>>16257084
either one expandable depot that might become very large, or multiple smaller depots, not sure what would be better
you could co-locate a big LEO station with the fuel depot which might have some benefits I guess (can use humans to go do maintenance, could launch people to the LEO station and then they could change vehicles to a Moon shuttle from there)
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:39:00 UTC No. 16257108
>>16257084
several acres in size at a minimum just for HLS
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:44:18 UTC No. 16257116
https://x.com/compulyze/status/1806
Kathy Leuders speaking video
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:45:23 UTC No. 16257117
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:47:10 UTC No. 16257119
>>16257112
And people think musk is fucked because tesla's stock is dropping.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:51:21 UTC No. 16257125
>>16257119
its funny to see TSLAQ's bewildered and mad in replies to posts mentioning this news lmao, they are coping and seething so hard
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:05:53 UTC No. 16257146
https://x.com/robert_zubrin/status/
This the guy you worship? lmao
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:08:07 UTC No. 16257150
>>16257146
So what is his idea for the ISS?
it's starting to become ancient and costs billions a year to keep up there.
And it will be redundant when super heavy starts putting 9m modules in LEO.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:08:09 UTC No. 16257151
>>16257146
thats crazy
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:11:17 UTC No. 16257153
>>16257116
>>16257117
talks about the fuel depot at 27min
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:13:45 UTC No. 16257155
>>16257146
Zubrin is pretty smart, and his plan is actually quite clever
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:18:43 UTC No. 16257167
>>16257160
can you do one for SLS and Starship
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:21:08 UTC No. 16257173
>>16257160
>>16257167
can you never post this shit again
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:21:36 UTC No. 16257175
>>16256361
The space industry became so pathetic that Spacex had to vertically integrate the market demand too
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:21:51 UTC No. 16257176
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:22:12 UTC No. 16257177
>>16257173
thats insane
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:22:15 UTC No. 16257178
>>16257160
Love these they are so funn! You are talented
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:23:24 UTC No. 16257179
>>16257176
>>16257178
it's not me its Calude .35 basednet
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:23:26 UTC No. 16257180
>>16257178
its AI
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:24:39 UTC No. 16257181
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:24:41 UTC No. 16257183
>>16257160
If we colonize places that aren't Earth, then Earth's problems != humanity's problems
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:25:34 UTC No. 16257184
>>16257156
As it should be
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:25:42 UTC No. 16257185
>>16257176
>>16257179
keep em coming, love the slop! peace and love
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:26:55 UTC No. 16257187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yoe
>2 Funny Astronauts LIVE: with the Polaris Dawn Crew
I opened at a random spot and they were talking about the number of jews on some crew, I hope that isn't indicative of the general topics they will talk about
but its quite a long stream, almost 2h
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:29:15 UTC No. 16257190
>>16257179
>>16257180
Oh! Well in that case please go do something else, so that you're no longer the lobotomized delivery boy of slop churned out by a chinese room
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:30:02 UTC No. 16257191
>>16257190
LLM =/= chinese room
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:33:57 UTC No. 16257196
>>16256804
>Orbital launches from Esrange?
I know it is used for sounding rockets, especially for aurora borealis research, but how does Norway and Finland feel about dropping debris on their territory?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:36:42 UTC No. 16257202
>>16257181
>>16257179
The duality of AI
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:37:33 UTC No. 16257203
>>16257202
it does not discriminate (except when you type in feminist then suddenly "behave or you get banned")
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:37:47 UTC No. 16257204
>>16256562
>unprompted
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:38:33 UTC No. 16257205
>>16257203
anyway heres the link https://glif.app/glifs/clxtc53mi000
you can bypass wordfilters with deliberate typos, AI still understands the context
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:44:22 UTC No. 16257211
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
>Because of the sensitivity of the mission, NASA is likely to require a "Category 3" rocket under the auspices of its Launch Services Program, which are rockets that have a robust launch history. The agency notes that some rockets that fit this category are SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket and Northrop Grumman's Pegasus and Minotaur rockets. Because SpaceX is the contractor for the deorbit vehicle, it stands to reason that it likely will launch on a Falcon 9 or Falcon Heavy. It's possible that SpaceX bid Starship for this mission, although I think that is unlikely because the vehicle is not classified as a Category 3 rocket now, nor is it likely to be for at least a couple of years.
>The bidding process for the US Deorbit Vehicle was opaque, but there are a few intriguing clues. Initially, the contract was offered as a hybrid. NASA's original documents said the "design" portion of the contract would be cost-plus and the development portion firm-fixed-price. Then a couple of things happened. Perhaps because there were not that many bidders (one source suggested to Ars that SpaceX did not even bid initially), NASA modified the process to allow flexibility on the contracting mechanism. Then, earlier this year, NASA Administrator Bill Nelson estimated that the US Deorbit Vehicle would cost $1.5 billion.
>"The contract is a single-award firm-fixed-price core with indefinite delivery, indefinite quantity, firm-fixed-price task orders," NASA spokesman Joshua Finch told Ars on Wednesday night. "To maximize value to the government and enhance competition, the acquisition allowed offerors flexibility in proposing firm-fixed-price or a cost-plus incentive fee for the design, development, test and evaluation phase, as well as for the production, assembly, integration, and test phase."
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:44:56 UTC No. 16257213
>>16257205
>you can bypass wordfilters with deliberate typos
Seems to be a theme with AI, Bing dall-e image gen is the same
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:45:24 UTC No. 16257214
>>16257211
>The space agency considered alternatives to splashing the station down into a remote area of an ocean. One option involved moving the station into a stable parking orbit at 40,000 km above Earth, above geostationary orbit. However, the agency said this would require 3,900 m/s of delta-V, compared to the approximately 47 m/s of delta-V needed to deorbit the station. In terms of propellant, NASA estimated moving to a higher orbit would require 900 metric tons, or the equivalent of 150 to 250 cargo supply vehicles.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:45:53 UTC No. 16257215
>>16257211
Why would you need a super-robust rocket for a deorbit mission?
The rocket is basically empty. If it blows up on the launch pad, who gives a shit?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:45:56 UTC No. 16257216
>>16257213
yeah despite their best efforts to RLHF and censor at the frontend the LLM is usually able to circumvent that shit
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:47:38 UTC No. 16257218
>>16257211
>>16257214
Feels like for 1 bil they'd be able to get 3.9km/s onto the ISS alongside a small thruster.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:47:46 UTC No. 16257219
>>16257179
That's me.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:49:15 UTC No. 16257221
>>16257218
I actually would prefer that they destroy the old rust bucket. It was a shit show from the start
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:51:37 UTC No. 16257223
>>16257221
I'm against destroying history. I'd prefer they mothball it and make it into a museum piece. Despite all its failings and holding spaceflight back it was The Spacestation for several generations.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:51:44 UTC No. 16257224
>>16257112
its the second most valuable after tiktok (~ $260 billion). though tiktok's valuation is dropping cuz the upcoming ban.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:51:47 UTC No. 16257225
>>16257191
>LLM =/= chinese room
LLMs don't have algorithms? Really?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:52:41 UTC No. 16257227
>>16256727
woah that's insane.. just the scale of it...
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:53:42 UTC No. 16257228
>>16257214
Get Tom to film on the ISS and initiate the final burn before jumping out.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:55:30 UTC No. 16257230
>>16257196
It's probably a non issue given the location and that staging would be over the ocean.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:57:43 UTC No. 16257233
>>16257224
Tiktok isn't American dummy
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:58:44 UTC No. 16257234
>>16257227
yeah
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:01:01 UTC No. 16257237
>>16257223
>for several generations.
24 years ain't several generations unless you're a rabbit
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:02:41 UTC No. 16257241
>>16257237
I'm not but my girlfriend is
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:07:09 UTC No. 16257244
>>16257116
Kathy Leder, the general manager at SpaceX's Starbase facility, discussed the company's operations, achievements, and impact on the local community. She highlighted SpaceX's rapid progress in developing the Starship spacecraft, their commitment to environmental stewardship, and their efforts to integrate with and contribute to the local economy and workforce.
Key Points:
Starship Development:
Starship has twice the thrust of the Saturn V rocket
Four test flights conducted between April 2023 and June 2023, with increasing success
Emphasis on learning and improving with each test flight
Starbase Facility:
Located in Boca Chica, Texas
Serves as the premier location for Starship production, testing, and launching
Constantly expanding and improving facilities
Economic impact:
Significant investment in local infrastructure and job creation
Approximately 50% of employees live in the Brownsville area
Diverse workforce needs beyond engineering and technical roles
Environmental considerations:
Working closely with environmental agencies and wildlife organizations
Conducting pre- and post-launch surveys for wildlife impact
Addressing concerns about ecological effects of operations
Community Engagement:
Partnerships with local educational institutions for workforce development
Monthly community events and volunteer activities
Efforts to improve local infrastructure, including plans for road upgrades
Future Plans:
Continued development of Starship for NASA's Artemis program and other missions
Exploration of options for expanding water and power infrastructure
Ongoing efforts to refine launch and landing capabilities
Challenges:
Balancing rapid development with environmental and community concerns
Managing growth and infrastructure needs in a remote location
Addressing public safety and transportation issues
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:07:51 UTC No. 16257248
>https://spacenews.com/planet-lays-
why do satellite companies keep laying off employees?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:08:28 UTC No. 16257250
>>16257244
Cleaner
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:18:42 UTC No. 16257264
>>16257012
The number of non-Starlink launches per year is growing, and the Starlink percentage is increasing because the number of Starlink launches per year is growing even faster. What about that chart seems grim to you?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:19:44 UTC No. 16257266
>>16257264
No room for other launchers. ISRO/ESA/Russia/ULA/etc not having customer because SpaceX taking all.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:22:22 UTC No. 16257270
>>16257241
you are a lucky man
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:23:08 UTC No. 16257271
>>16257237
Well, it went through several generations of hardware?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:25:09 UTC No. 16257274
>>16257266
Oh, yeah. I thought you meant grim for SpaceX.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:25:27 UTC No. 16257276
>The first launch for China’s G60 Starlink megaconstellation of over 12,000 satellites is set for early August.
https://spacenews.com/china-to-laun
watch astronomers remain silent about this
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:36:03 UTC No. 16257294
https://x.com/thesheetztweetz/statu
>Boeing says Starliner "worked exceptionally well" as a safe haven after NASA ordered astronauts to shelter-in-spacecraft yesterday. "Starliner remains available for return in case of an emergency on the space station that would require the crew to leave orbit immediately."
>NASA and Boeing are going to give an update on the Starliner crew flight test tomorrow
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:36:32 UTC No. 16257297
>>16257150
Why save the ISS at all when we can build a bigger, more modern space station and exclude people from enemy countries? Also I don't care about vaxxing turd worlders from countries who murder the doctors who do the vaxxing. Let them die.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:38:56 UTC No. 16257301
>>16257211
>. It's possible that SpaceX bid Starship for this mission, although I think that is unlikely because the vehicle is not classified as a Category 3 rocket now, nor is it likely to be for at least a couple of years
they have 6 years or so
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:41:43 UTC No. 16257303
>>16257294
oh, well that's good. I was worried there were huge issues with starliner but if nasa is confident they could safely use it to leave in an emergency I'm sure that any problems are just small technicalities they'd like to work out.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:43:10 UTC No. 16257306
>>16257241
about that...
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:48:45 UTC No. 16257312
>The spacecraft could have been hit by an untracked piece of debris.
>There has also been speculation that the spacecraft was hit by a Russian anti-satellite (ASAT) weapon
>However, there have been no statements by either the Defense Department or Russian Ministry of Defense about such a test
probably a failure then
https://spacenews.com/russian-satel
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:51:35 UTC No. 16257313
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1806444
slapp that cylinder
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:51:51 UTC No. 16257314
>>16257312
Personally I think it was just struck by debris or a micrometeorite this time. Worth noting last time the russian defense dept did an ASAT test near the ISS even Roscosmos was like ‘are you fucking kidding me retards’ lol
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:54:32 UTC No. 16257318
>>16257315
Have they done a drop test yet?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:55:24 UTC No. 16257320
>>16257294
>get in spacecraft
>get out of spacecraft
>nothing goes wrong
>"worked exceptionally well"
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:55:59 UTC No. 16257321
>>16257315
The rebounds at current speeds of closing doesn't look good.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:57:00 UTC No. 16257324
I just got in. Redpill me on who ASATed the Resurs-P1.
Was it the ziggers to have the deathliner crew killed?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:05:01 UTC No. 16257332
>>16257312
I like to think that russians are not crazy enough to test anti sat weapons on something that would spread debries in to the ISS path, knowing they have their own men on there.
But then again, i have seen the meatgrinder in ukraine and in what conditions they force these poor men to fight and i fear for humanity.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:16:45 UTC No. 16257340
>>16257336
You cant really hide that shit.
But you can hide the aliens growing behind your panels on your vodka station.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:22:41 UTC No. 16257350
>>16257340
that really was pretty funky
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:24:18 UTC No. 16257352
Can anyone help me out with a high res version of this photo from during the eclipse please?
my house is right under the shadow and we want to print one out big as we can to put on the wall.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:26:07 UTC No. 16257356
>>16256904
>catastrophe scenarios
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:27:13 UTC No. 16257357
>>16257345
How did they make such a cool station with old soviet shit
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:28:40 UTC No. 16257360
>>16257332
It was either self-destructed, or a meteorite hit it.
I don't really believe it was self-ASATed, russians don't have that much money.
A meteorite smashing a solar panel can easily generate 100 parts.
Then maybe NAFO trooners got it. They actually have the money, and this thing was supposed to be civilian, but maybe it was dual purpose.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:30:23 UTC No. 16257362
>>16257352
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasa2
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:30:47 UTC No. 16257365
>>16257360
Too obvious, back to the troll pitt with you.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:32:06 UTC No. 16257367
>>16257357
> we never got the stations Energia would have enabled
fug
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:38:25 UTC No. 16257374
>>16257008
but i was told there was no increase in demand outside of starlink
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:38:26 UTC No. 16257375
>>16257315
we are so fuked bros
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:38:30 UTC No. 16257377
>>16257362
oh perfect thanks! i tried a reverse image search before but didnt see the page you gave. thats going to print out very nicely.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:41:11 UTC No. 16257381
>dreamliner
>starliner
>graveliner
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:47:23 UTC No. 16257389
>>16257374
Who ever heard of decreasing costs inducing demand? Seriously people that understand economics have had a better understanding of SpaceX than people with entire careers in aerospace
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:51:22 UTC No. 16257391
>>16256780
lick stomach while hand holding
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:52:07 UTC No. 16257393
>>16257336
matt dominick's crisis actor is proof that nasa conspired to hide astronaut deaths, just like judy resnik being alive is prove that nasa false flagged astronaut deaths. some agencies will do anything for power.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:55:47 UTC No. 16257395
>>16257390
I was born with human exceptionalism in my heart.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:57:08 UTC No. 16257396
>>16257390
If you consider the current theoretical numbers with regard to abiogenesis, we're the protagonists of the entire observable universe and then some
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:58:28 UTC No. 16257397
>>16257315
>TILES ON
>TILES OFF
>TILES ON
>TILES OFF
>TILES ON
>TILES OFF
>TILES ON
>TILES OFF
>TILES ON
>TILES OFF
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:59:43 UTC No. 16257398
>>16257390
>>16257395
>>16257396
> narcissism and fear
Sad!
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:02:14 UTC No. 16257399
>>16257398
the same post but it's gigachad wearing the "I hate aliens" shirt and after the greentext it says "based!"
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:03:12 UTC No. 16257401
>>16257390
>a few thousand humans put in some real work and make something cool while everyone else is busy being fatasses who stare at their phones all day
OMG AREN'T WE AWESOME GUYS
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:05:59 UTC No. 16257405
>>16257401
It’s about what we CAN be, not what we are
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:06:38 UTC No. 16257406
>>16257215
There is only ever going to be one Deorbit Vehicle. If it blows up on the pad the ISS deorbits uncontrolled.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:09:45 UTC No. 16257411
>>16257237
Multiple generations can exist at the same time anon. Its' been the only station for late Gen X and above.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:10:40 UTC No. 16257413
>>16257406
NTA but this is SpaceX, not circa 2005 Lockheed or Boeing or whatever who can only do ONE ‘mega project’ over a 10-year period.
This is probably going to be light work (metaphorically) for SpaceX.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:12:14 UTC No. 16257414
>>16257401
Imagine a planet populated exclusively by people like that though. Mars is going to be even more of a paradise than Earth despite everything against it
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:12:20 UTC No. 16257415
>>16257211
>It's possible that SpaceX bid Starship for this mission, although I think that is unlikely because the vehicle is not classified as a Category 3 rocket now, nor is it likely to be for at least a couple of years.
What an absolutely retarded take. If companies like BO can win contracts with paper rockets, and zero experience with orbital anything, why wouldn't SpaceX go all-in with Starship, considering its about 6 years away?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:13:18 UTC No. 16257418
>>16257411
A generation is 15-20 years, pilpul nigger
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:18:00 UTC No. 16257425
>>16257415
as the sentence you quoted plainly implies this is the sort of contract BO couldn't win
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:18:16 UTC No. 16257426
>>16257415
a) BO is winning mission tailor-made by the government to fund non-existent rockets bc the government wants to seed some sort of space economy and/or have “options”
(what I’m trying to say is that New Glenn keeps winning contracts because NASA needs a “not-SpaceX” and they are willing to fund it through $20 mil, $50 mil, $100 mil projects)
b) I agree about starship. NASA calling these vehicles “cat 3” is just some arbitrary labeling… ISS keeps getting extended further and further, and by the time it actually needs to be deorbited it’s not crazy to think that Starship will be pretty mature. SpaceX might be bidding a Falcon Heavy style mission now but I wouldn't be surprised if they seek an updated contract. I believe this is exactly what they are doing right now with Gateway resupply-Dragon XL. They want to just use Starship eventually.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:18:54 UTC No. 16257427
>>16257415
Especially knowing that the Starship ABSOLUTELY can function as a disposable rocket.
>>16257418
>two existing generations before it launched
>at least two generations born in that time period
I'm counting 4 generations involved during the ISS.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:21:46 UTC No. 16257429
>spend 9 months of 7 engineer's salaries to teach AI how to design a rocket engine with a combustion chamber, nozzle, fuel injectors, cooling channels, etc
>3d print it out of metal on a $1,000,000 printer
>cut it in half with a jumbo wire edm machine (not cheap either) to show off the internal complexity instead of actually running hot fire tests on it
>don't make 2 of them
SO FUCKING GAY
you know these AI designed rocket engines just look like rocket engines but don't actually function because nobody will actually fire them and take a video of it
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:22:43 UTC No. 16257432
>>16257429
I'd like to fly into her space if you know what I mean
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:25:22 UTC No. 16257433
>>16257418
>U.S. air force
>no air
Why would they lie
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:30:10 UTC No. 16257440
>>16257432
if you mean that you'd be pleased to rendezvous and dock with her i think i may have gotten your drift
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:35:58 UTC No. 16257442
>>16257438
they is NOT catching the booster in those chopsticks.
IFT5 won't be until the second tower is built for sure
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:38:32 UTC No. 16257444
>>16256588
I didn't see it live but I saw it that day and LOL'd
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:39:37 UTC No. 16257445
>>16257438
Are they going to drop it from the crane onto the catch arms?
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:40:15 UTC No. 16257447
https://x.com/LeoLabs_Space/status/
>Update: We are now tracking at least 180 fragments resulting from this event.
>We expect this number to increase in the coming days. We are actively analyzing the debris cloud to characterize it, identify a potential cause, and estimate the impact.
>More details to follow.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:40:49 UTC No. 16257448
>>16257429
>teach AI how to design a rocket engine
They didn't. It's just bullshit to get funding. Which is also why they didn't show any results.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:42:05 UTC No. 16257450
>>16257447
Oof not good. Not world ending, but these kinds of things are an unsafe pain in the ass nonetheless
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:52:21 UTC No. 16257457
>>16257433
The room is full of space and at that time the space force was part of the air force
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:57:40 UTC No. 16257462
>>16257457
Excellent point thanks
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 00:00:25 UTC No. 16257465
The JunoCam instrument aboard NASA's Juno spacecraft captured two volcanic plumes rising above the horizon of Jupiter's moon Io on Feb. 3, 2024. Mission scientists think the plumes were emitted either by two vents from one giant volcano, or two volcanoes near each other.
JunoCam imaged the plumes from a distance of about 2,400 miles (3,800 kilometers).
(only resolution offered sorry)
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 00:07:09 UTC No. 16257470
>>16257465
>scientists think the plumes were emitted either by two vents from one giant volcano, or two volcanoes near each other
now that's the kind of science I love seeing my hard earned tax money going to
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 00:16:30 UTC No. 16257474
>>16257397
you"re not funny
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 00:17:55 UTC No. 16257477
>>16257390
its depressing considering that lots of humans are shitty
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 00:20:39 UTC No. 16257480
>>16257390
for now
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 00:23:57 UTC No. 16257482
>>16257465
Where's the colours
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 00:35:57 UTC No. 16257490
>>16257447
Is the starlink hardware insured?
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 00:37:34 UTC No. 16257493
>>16257482
nothing in space has colors popsci astronomers have been lying to you for decades
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 00:42:33 UTC No. 16257497
>>16256182
I want to try drawing this starship chan, but i dont know anything about the actual rocket. Is starship the second stage and superheavy the first stage/booster?
Also should the grid fins be her wings or like things that go over her hands like a guilty gear character
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 00:47:28 UTC No. 16257500
>>16257493
I think it is in between nasa's sensationalist images and so called "true color"
"true color" is mastered for 90s monitor technology with crappy color range, the human eye is capable of seeing way more colors than that.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 00:48:16 UTC No. 16257501
>>16257497
>Is starship the second stage and superheavy the first stage/booster?
Yes
>should the grid fins be her wings or like things that go over her hands like a guilty gear character
Listen to your heart
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 00:54:05 UTC No. 16257504
>>16257332
Didn't they do an ASAT test that could have sent debris into the ISS path shortly before the invasion started?
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 01:02:31 UTC No. 16257510
>>16257438
The bouncing after they connect is no bueno. Not feeling optimistic about the catch, no way to sugarcoat this etc...
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 01:06:42 UTC No. 16257512
>>16257510
The amount of bounce is a bit much in my opinion, but it seems fine to me so long as they can latch.
Keep in mind, the latching mechanism is a separate piece from the arm itself, which means it can move to compensate for the arm bouncing.
Ultimately though, we will see, for there is always a chance I'm wrong in my optimism.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 01:11:59 UTC No. 16257518
https://x.com/Alexphysics13/status/
>Looks like another European satellite went from Ariane 6 to SpaceX's Falcon 9. In this case this one is the second satellite of Europe's latest generation of geostationary weather satellites.
https://www.lemonde.fr/sciences/art
>Hard blow for space Europe. Less than a fortnight before the first flight of Ariane-6, scheduled for July 9, the European meteorological satellite agency (Eumetsat) decided, Thursday, June 27, to no longer call on this new launcher to put its Meteosat MTG-S1 satellite into orbit. The executive committee has indeed asked the board of directors representing the thirty Member States to choose the American Falcon-9 rocket from SpaceX, Elon Musk's company, for this mission. The contract signed four years ago with Arianespace has therefore been cancelled.
>This decision is surprising for two reasons. First of all, by its precipitation. The satellite was not designed for boarding the first flight of the Ariane-6, but in the third, which will be held at the beginning of the year 2025, in six months. A launcher, in the course of manufacture, was reserved for this purpose, and no indication no indication that such a challenge. But most importantly, make that decision in a few days for a first launch is also seen as a sign of defiance in the face of this new rocket. The effect is all the more devastating as it is a choice made by a European body.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 02:04:42 UTC No. 16257538
>>16257510
HOLY FUCK THE ARMS BOUNCED THERE IS LITERALLY NO WAY TO FIX THIS SPACE TRAVEL IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE 1984 IS REAL ITS OVER
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 02:08:18 UTC No. 16257540
I wonder if saving weight by making the booster aluminum and then adding it back with landing legs a la New Glenn will turn out to be the better strategy in the long run.
screencap this and come back to it in the 2050s. tell me if I was right.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 02:14:04 UTC No. 16257544
>>16257540
Fucking around with two different types of metal will complicate production and raise costs.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 02:15:05 UTC No. 16257545
>>16257493
That's clearly yellow. Get your eyes examined.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 02:18:33 UTC No. 16257546
>>16257540
Nah, they can just trim the booster as needed later on by optimizing for structure better.
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 02:25:39 UTC No. 16257549
>>16257545
Youre a retarded nigger>>16257544
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 02:44:26 UTC No. 16257557
we need more physical goods made in space to be sold on earth
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 02:45:47 UTC No. 16257558
>>16257557
gimme the designer space-drugs any day of the week
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 02:48:07 UTC No. 16257559
>>16257557
endo steel structure lets goo
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 02:49:39 UTC No. 16257561
>>16257557
dragon dildos cast in zero-g
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 03:01:46 UTC No. 16257574
>>16257557
space is being created in space as we speak, I sell it on Earth as time
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 03:10:43 UTC No. 16257589
>>16257571
at least he's not soijacking
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 03:11:41 UTC No. 16257592
>>16257584
they never said anything about space...
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 03:14:47 UTC No. 16257595
>>16257592
And they never will
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 03:18:24 UTC No. 16257599
>>16257584
Not a single question about China. I don't think people see China as a threat. Are >we the ones coping, hoping for some sort of space race that isn't even going to happen??
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 03:22:36 UTC No. 16257605
>>16257599
us and the MIC, yeah
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 03:25:55 UTC No. 16257608
>>16257084
The first depot will be the size of a starship, and have a simple mylar sun shield suspended an inch off of the tank surface. No need for JWST-tier autism
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 03:26:06 UTC No. 16257609
>>16257605
>stone toss tug of war meme
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 03:28:17 UTC No. 16257612
>>16257598
especially since BO isnt investing in dreamchaser. they could be like axiom right now and doing manned flights ahead of their space station, but they arent. how are you supposed to get people to your station without a ride?
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 03:29:28 UTC No. 16257615
Does india actually have a good space industry. I dont actually care about jeet shit enough to do research but thats baffling. They cant even make a gun (the insas is a steaming pile of doodoo)
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 03:30:53 UTC No. 16257617
>>16257615
most countries dont even have a space program, so india is doing pretty well in that regard
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 03:32:08 UTC No. 16257620
>>16257615
Their tech is mostly a mishmash of old existing tech and some of their own home-grown innovations. They're not starting from scratch, like most others are trying to do, which... good on them. I like the bulky ass LVM3 for what it is.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 03:34:11 UTC No. 16257623
>>16257615
it's decent but they are still very behind, compared to US space exploration India is probably in the early 1970s when it comes to tech and China is in the late 1990s/early 2000s
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 03:39:12 UTC No. 16257627
>>16257357
Because old soviet shit is cool
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 03:40:17 UTC No. 16257629
>>16257390
Who else is there to be the protagonists? Life only exists on Earth.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 03:40:18 UTC No. 16257630
>>16257623
>compared to US
might as well compare them to god. just say it's good for what india is as a country and leave it at that
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 03:43:27 UTC No. 16257633
I am yet to see anything from China yet that convinces me that they'll get to the moon first in this race
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 03:46:01 UTC No. 16257637
>>16257633
They don’t have to worry about DEI shit. Forcing spaceflight to be “diverse” will only slow down the west.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 03:50:13 UTC No. 16257642
>>16257427
My grandpa, who as a young boy saw civil war veterans march in Chicago, died shortly after the completion of the ISS
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 04:02:29 UTC No. 16257647
>Still, the satellite did pass over a Russian launch site that could be used to fire missiles during the window of time that the event was said to have occurred, according to Dr. McDowell. “So I can’t rule it out at this point,” he said, “but I also can’t rule in.”
im not saying its an asat but its pretty coincidental
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 04:04:51 UTC No. 16257648
while we're on the subject of ASAT? does any country publicly acknowledge a large supply of any ASAT system? you hear about tests here and there but never about a stockpile or a contract for 100 missiles or anything.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 04:06:47 UTC No. 16257649
>>16257615
They're good enough to count as one of the major space powers, but out of the big six they're coming in sixth in most aspects. They've got the smallest overall budget, but they do a good job of pulling off some big wins within those confines. They'll be the fourth nation to develop independent crew launch capability. They've scored some big planetary science wins with their lunar and martian programs and they'll probably add Venus to that scorecard before NASA can get a probe of its own back there. That said, their biggest launcher is just above the Soyuz in payload capacity while costing twice as much and having a fraction of the flight rate. Indian domestic propulsion experience is quite weak on account of their ballistic missile program having jumped right into solid fuel designs without going through an Atlas/Titan phase first. They also tried to save time and money by licensing liquid engines designs from Europe and Russia which ended up setting them back over the long run. Having the SCE-200 be at least half Russo-Ukrainian didn't help change this. Structurally their space sector has a lot of the same oldspace issues you'd find in their American or European counterparts, but there are some efforts to denationalize the core while encouraging the growth of small space startups, and that's starting to some show results. There's a lot of public enthusiasm and support for spaceflight in India, and the launch streams from Sriharikota always have a few big crowd shots of people waiting to see the launch.
Overall, they've got problems in scale and structure, but they have set some ambitious goals and have a good track record of following through on them. If they keep making the right long term choices they'll continue to do well, although there's just too much of a gap to really catch up to America or China's current standing. Not a leader, but easily a strong partner going forward.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 04:13:57 UTC No. 16257656
>>16257648
the US has the largest asat system in the world, but its labeled as a ballistic missile defense. idk the total number of missiles, but its at least 1200 missiles (gmd, sm-3, thaad, etc.) capable of knocking out satellites in leo.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 04:18:14 UTC No. 16257662
>>16257615
Let's ask AI to create a realistic depiction of India's space program.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 04:33:09 UTC No. 16257670
>>16257609
kek
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 04:34:23 UTC No. 16257671
>>16257465
Neat. Can they analyze the composition from what instruments are on it?
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 04:36:09 UTC No. 16257673
>>16257470
the camera was an afterthought we are lucky we see anything at all
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 04:37:35 UTC No. 16257675
>>16257557
My previous idea of space hard alcohol still makes sense when you look at the extremely high luxury alcohol market. And if zero g distillation tastes better then even more so
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 04:44:44 UTC No. 16257683
>>16257681
:3 famili
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 05:08:28 UTC No. 16257701
So, what's the plan for staging? Go to the existing (and misspelled) /sfg/ thread, or create a new thread?
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 05:21:30 UTC No. 16257716
>>16257701
Creat a new one
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 05:39:07 UTC No. 16257731
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 05:48:38 UTC No. 16257747
trump has a legit possibility of winning now. what do we think a second term for him would do for american space? i like to think of his first term's space legacy as retardedly good luck, but im not sure if he could roll a 20 again in a second term. i definitely think he'll at the very least continue the course that he and biden have been running for the past 8 years.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 05:49:58 UTC No. 16257749
>>16257747
It would be absolutely based. He's atleast pro space, pro deregulation and has a generally positive view of Elon.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 05:51:00 UTC No. 16257750
>>16257747
He will protect our genius.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 05:52:51 UTC No. 16257753
>>16257747
Daily starship launches starting on inauguration day
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 06:00:59 UTC No. 16257756
>>16257681
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP GET CLAMPED GET CLAMPED GET CLAMPED
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 06:04:32 UTC No. 16257758
>>16257747
the biggest effect would not be actual changes in policy or funding, but rather elon not having such a cold attitude towards the exec branch. that itself will result in possible developments.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 06:07:12 UTC No. 16257759
>>16257758
>elon not having
Rather the execs branch not trying to kill him. If Trump removes some of the swamp second time, it would be awesome. Now that we know what he's up against due to all the revalations in the last 3 years
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 06:09:04 UTC No. 16257760
>>16255391
Space & Information Division (of North American Aviation)
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 06:10:51 UTC No. 16257762
>>16257747
any substantial increases in the nasa budget are going to be unlikely regardless of who controls congress. there are still a few sls bitter-enders in the senate like cantwell but most of the old guard (ballast, shelby) is gone. so it's not impossible SLS could get cancelled after artemis 4... just really unlikely.
greg autry would be the best choice to replace ballast at nasa both in terms of not losing any races to china and in terms of promoting industry growth. but there's absolutely no way of guessing what's going to happen there, since trump never puts much thought into his appointments.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 06:11:09 UTC No. 16257763
>>16257760
Hey, thanks anon! I'm not him but I respect a man who'll answer a question, especially when everyone else seems to have forgotten.
>>16257759
Revelations in the last 3? I think he started realizing just how deep that swamp was in 2019.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 06:14:07 UTC No. 16257765
>>16257763
>I think he started realizing just how deep that swamp was in 2019.
Only slightly. He should have fired the FBI/CIA directors and anyone willingly trying to cancel him. He didn't realize how corrupt Fauci was back then either.
The corruption is extremely deep and now everyone in the world knows it.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 06:14:31 UTC No. 16257766
>>16257758
Elon needs to explain to him why Artemis should be outright cancelled and replaced by 100% Starship architechture instead. SLS/Orion just ain't cuttin the cheese
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 06:23:11 UTC No. 16257768
>>16257766
that wouldn't really make any difference since SLS exists by congressional mandate and it's congress that can threaten nasa with budget cuts if they try to cancel SLS.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 06:25:49 UTC No. 16257772
>>16257768
Elon needs to explain to him why it should be called the Senate Launch System so it's failings are personally embarrassing to Washington and force them to rethink this program.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 06:26:36 UTC No. 16257773
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18065
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 06:31:09 UTC No. 16257778
>>16257681
Meowww!
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 06:49:41 UTC No. 16257790
>>16257778
RELEASE THE ROCKITTEN
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 07:43:45 UTC No. 16257837
>>16257612
>how are you supposed to get people to your station without a ride?
Uh, SLS exists you know.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 07:44:46 UTC No. 16257838
>>16257771
What's their version of Canadarm? Hainanarm?
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 08:09:35 UTC No. 16257845
Yeah, I didn't expect politics to overshadow this general, but I should've seen it coming. Ah well, IFT-5 will really bring in the crowds.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 08:18:25 UTC No. 16257851
>>16257845
General has been fucked for years now and it's only going to get worse
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 08:20:28 UTC No. 16257854
>>16257851
Oh, no, I literally mean that this general's activity basically died the MOMENT the US presidential debate happened.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 08:20:44 UTC No. 16257855
>>16257838
chinadarm
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 08:52:04 UTC No. 16257872
>>16257760
that was me that asked and thanks for the answer
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 09:24:37 UTC No. 16257887
ESA needs to be stopped being called European, it's just arrogant Frenchies dicking around
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 09:28:57 UTC No. 16257888
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/27/eur
>Advanced Space Cloud for European Net zero emission and Data sovereignty, a 16-month-long study that explored the feasibility of launching data centers into orbit, has come to a “very encouraging” conclusion, according to Damien Dumestier, manager of the project.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 09:31:28 UTC No. 16257890
https://spacenews.com/russian-spy-s
>Since its launch, Luch 2 has been notably active, making several significant maneuvers during its first 14 months in orbit, said the company. The satellite’s closest approach to date was with Eutelsat’s KA-SAT 9A, coming within approximately 20 km of the communications satellite.
>Schaffer noted that Luch 2 “has a history of cozying up to communications satellites, and it now appears to be repositioning itself near its next target.”
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 09:38:43 UTC No. 16257892
ESA should be much bigger than it actually is
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 09:55:08 UTC No. 16257899
>>16257888
How are they gonna cool that shit in space? Just cover the whole thing in radiators? Or was this idea proposed by one of the retards who think "space is cold"? Data centers make a fuckton of heat.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 10:02:31 UTC No. 16257904
https://x.com/RampCapitalLLC/status
the current president of the United States of America
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 10:15:05 UTC No. 16257914
>>16257196
They aren't dropping debris. The debris is either dropped on Swedish land in the far north or in the arctic sea.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 10:29:23 UTC No. 16257926
>>16257838
Mongoliarm.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 10:35:35 UTC No. 16257927
>>16257649
>They're good enough to count as one of the major space powers, but out of the big six they're coming in sixth in most aspects.
Nah, They come in 5th in most respects. 6th is solidly europe who still can't even make their own crew vehicle.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 10:38:54 UTC No. 16257928
Didn't Europe have that one "homegrown" space company kicking around?
I can't remember the name of it, but it was mostly hobbyists, and they had a plan to do a suborbital crewed vehicle. They even had the capsule functioning. I think they painted it orange. It was very cramped, being a one seater with barely any leg room. Effectively a large trash can converted into a capsule, really.
Unfortunately, outside of "it's probably based in the Scandinavian region," those are all of the details I can remember. Anyone else know what the fuck I'm on about?
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 10:40:48 UTC No. 16257929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKo
>China's Plan to Establish a Permanent Base on the Moon
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 10:43:00 UTC No. 16257932
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 10:44:18 UTC No. 16257933
>>16257928
Copenhagen suborbitals, as in suborbital flight.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 10:44:27 UTC No. 16257934
>>16257930
>1993
That... that is 30 years ago, anon.
>1994
>off by 33 days
We call that "close enough" in this industry.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 10:45:28 UTC No. 16257935
>>16257933
>Copenhagen suborbitals
CORRECT THANK YOU!!!
It's been bothering me ever since like a month ago and I could not figure it out no matter how hard I tried.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 10:45:28 UTC No. 16257936
>>16257928
Copenhagen Suborbitals
the CEO killed some guy in a submarine iirc
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 10:46:48 UTC No. 16257937
>>16257928
I remember that pill capsule.
Pretty sure they cancelled it cause it turns out the g forces in such a standing position would kill the passenger.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 10:52:18 UTC No. 16257943
>>16257936
Oh was he the guy that decapitated that female reporter for degen fetish reasons then tried to blame it on a malfunctioning hatch? Weird dude
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:02:46 UTC No. 16258071
>>16256969
kek
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:08:31 UTC No. 16258078
>>16257758
Other way 'round, the admin currently hates him because they are salty bitches, every one of 'em.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:10:31 UTC No. 16258081
>>16257002
>implying Boing will exist in 2031
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:14:40 UTC No. 16258085
>>16257038
Any white collar work that doesn't require regular real time communication
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:17:02 UTC No. 16258088
>>16257073
based politician befriender
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:23:28 UTC No. 16258094
>>16257084
I think you need a dirtshade, too. The earth is hot and covers a lot of the sky in LEO.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:27:01 UTC No. 16258097
>>16257156
I don't think it's accurate to suggest that Elon single-handedly built Starlink, or even that he planned to become an ISP.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:34:51 UTC No. 16258102
>>16257332
If you support the war please go die in it
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:35:58 UTC No. 16258104
>>16257381
binliner
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:37:32 UTC No. 16258107
>>16257390
I learned it by noticing the difference between humans and negroes
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:42:21 UTC No. 16258108
>>16257540
I can tell you you're wrong today
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:43:43 UTC No. 16258109
>>16257574
>a cubic kilometer of time
what is the minimum bid?
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:47:28 UTC No. 16258112
>>16257762
A better economy means more money for space.
Dementia Joe has got to go.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 13:49:38 UTC No. 16258115
>>16257899
Good point. You can tell it's a retarded idea because the Euros suggested it.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 14:01:09 UTC No. 16258127
>>16257214
Lol. Thats doable with Dragon 2. Literally free money.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 14:09:11 UTC No. 16258137
>>16258127
That comes up 30m/s short, it's not dragon 2. If it's a single ship, it'll be dragon XL. Or they shove a PAM in the trunk. Or it's more than one dragon.
It's not entirely free money but it spares SpaceX the need to develop XL for Artemis anyway. And a bunch of red tape on NASA's part because they'd need to fund it anyway.