🗑️ 🧵 This board is absolute shit.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 13:45:41 UTC No. 16261086
Something has to be done about this board's extreme decline into an unusable state. Not only are a huge proportion of the threads off-topic, most are filled with posts completely hostile to any discussion of science and math.
You can get a better discussion on /sci/-related topics on almost any other board. Almost all knowledgeable posters have either left, or are drowned in endless posts about "X being fake" or "Y isn't real." The board has been absolutely ruined.
The /mg/ threads were cleaned up somewhat during their absolute worst point a few years ago when high schoolers were doing this, so all I'm suggesting is something be done for the rest of the board too.
Per site rules, boards are allowed a thread to talk about board issues.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 13:49:22 UTC No. 16261088
>>16261086
You really just need a better bot filter in your head, jannies won't do anything.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 13:50:20 UTC No. 16261089
>>16261086
The mods don't give a shit about you or the site rules. This thread is going to be deleted soon and the mods will do fuck all.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 14:16:55 UTC No. 16261126
We need a virginity filter. Only certified sex havers should be allowed to post. Sex with a prostitute or a tranny doesn't count btw.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 14:35:32 UTC No. 16261145
>>16261086
100% agree. The board has become a hub of genuine schizophrenics, ignorant conspiracy theorists, antivaxxers, and /pol/fags. Totally unusable dumpster fire. But mods don't care for some reason.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 14:39:50 UTC No. 16261153
>>16261086
Even though I'm pretty politically incorrect myself, I think banning any discussion of politically incorrect topics would almost completely fix the problem.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 14:41:02 UTC No. 16261155
>>16261153
It would be better to do a blanket ban on politics altogether.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 14:44:35 UTC No. 16261160
>>16261086
The only way to give /sci/ back its kino is to remove the /pol/tarded threads. You see, I don't mind normal retarded threads, it's okay to be wrong, it's okay to have a stupid opinion, but when it's tainted by /pol/ , it's worse than garbage.
How I miss the old /sci/, its futurologies, its infothreads, its discussions on education, its topics on ecology (and not the fucking spam of retarded climate change deniers), on space, biology and genetics....
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 15:12:26 UTC No. 16261189
>>16261086
>Something has to be done about this board's extreme decline into an unusable state,
It's not just this board. The entire site needs nuking.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 15:15:26 UTC No. 16261193
>>16261086
>Censorship fixes everything
>Castrated brain for the last 4 years
LMAO
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 15:16:50 UTC No. 16261194
Killing every single reddit trannies would solve it, imo. Send them to to the vax clinics to worship their big pharmas
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 15:19:58 UTC No. 16261197
>>16261160
Can we keep the veganism/diet threads though? those seem interesting.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 15:33:49 UTC No. 16261213
>>16261197
Nutrition research to science is like arboriginal tribal math to graduate mathematics so it should be removed as well for being not scientific.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 15:42:32 UTC No. 16261225
>>16261194
Low IQ bait from a low IQ anti-vaxx spammer. You should fuck off to pol
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 15:45:23 UTC No. 16261232
>>16261086
You can thank hiroshimoot for that, he doesn't give a shit about the side, redditors have infested the moderation team and are now curating site content to turn it into reddit 2.0.
Has hiroshimoot even once talked with the people on the site like moot did?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 15:46:28 UTC No. 16261235
>>16261086
>most are filled with posts completely hostile to any discussion of science and math.
Welcome to most of 4chan. 25% will be on-topic, 25% will be people trying to derail to their favorite aspect of the topic, and 50% will be trolls, /pol/s, or just people who come to hate on others because they can't safely do so elsewhere.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 15:49:47 UTC No. 16261240
>>16261235
No, /sci/ was not always like this. This isn't just a result of being on 4chan and something to be expected. The site has had an enormous drop in quality over the past few years. Other boards remain at least somewhat usable. You can get better discussion of most /sci/-related topics on /g/, for example. On the other hand, /sci/ has almost every single thread nowadays derailed by enormous amounts of spam claiming "physics is fake," or "why are scientists lying about (((insert irrelevant topic here)))."
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 15:54:55 UTC No. 16261247
>>16261240
This
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 15:57:15 UTC No. 16261254
>>16261086
>>16261145
>>16261153
>>16261155
>>16261160
>>16261240
former high effort poster here. i now post exclusively disinformation, in an attempt to drag the board's quality to a newest low not thought possible by you ilk. why do i do it you ask? because you dumb fucks have sticks so far up your asses you're choking to death on it. you're worse than r*ddit. rest assured ,whenever you think a new low has been reached by /sci/, i will drag it even lower. the best way to spread disinformation is to actually understand the topic, and then ask questions so deep it makes you ninnies squirm and seethe.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 15:59:09 UTC No. 16261259
>>16261254
>the best way to spread disinformation is to actually understand the topic, and then ask questions so deep it makes you ninnies squirm and seethe
I haven't seen a single example of such a post all year.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 15:59:10 UTC No. 16261260
>>16261153
>>16261155
>>16261145
The problem is, how do we define politics? The Lab Leak Hypothesis is clearly a biological claim about the origins of COVID, but anytime someone posts about the topic, all the woke leftists on the board start sperging out about muh disinformation and muh conspiracy theories and muh poltards. The people who ruined this board are all the woke leftists who constantly complain about muh poltards and muh Russian disinformation. The people who complain about muh pol content just want to label any topics they don't like - the Replication Crisis, the Lab Leak Hypothesis, Greenwashing, endocrine disruptors, etc. - as "political" and then use that as a pretext to ban any of that discussion on sci. This is completely retarded because these are some of the biggest topics in science in recent yerars. Anyone who is unwilling to discuss something like the replication crisis or the lab leak hypothesis is """anti-science""", to use the woke leftists own words. The replication crisis and the commercialization and commodification of contemporary scientific research is one of the biggest problems in the history of science, and anyone unwilling to discuss the topic possess an existential threat to the future of science.
>>16261193
This. The woke leftists answer to everything is always to scream about Putin or Hamas or white nationalism and then ban anyone with any opposing positions. Even if it's a completely unrelated topic. You could be talking about endocrine disruptors in plastics and how microplastics are flooding our environment, thereby increasing cancer rates and causing people to troon out, and the woke leftist will just randomly bring up Hamas or Trump or Putin or something and accuse you of being an "antisemitic conspiracy theorist". It's literal delusional non-sequiters and paranoid blabbering.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:02:32 UTC No. 16261267
>>16261259
i'm sorry that your physics knowledge is so underdeveloped that you know less than the alleged schisos you cry about :((( yes btw i am one of the people who gets called a schiso all the time in physics discussions, meanwhile i'm an assoc. prof at an R1 researching phenomenology. all those anti-cern posts? yeah that's me. i'm making it a personal mission to inform everyone on /sci/ that cern is demonic.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:03:44 UTC No. 16261269
>>16261260
>The Lab Leak Hypothesis is clearly a biological claim
No, it's not. It COULD be a biological discussion, but it could also be a political topic. Guess which one it is, 95% of the time on /sci/? It's people shitting up the board with
>let's talk about the media
>let's talk about why scientists are all lying about covid
>let's talk about how the vaccine causes an issue i have no evidence for at all
If it were actually framed as something relevant to a science board, fine, but it almost never is. It's almost always politics instead, and therefore belongs on /pol/.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:06:26 UTC No. 16261271
>>16261254
>and then ask questions so deep
For example "Why are doctors always wrong?", " Is climate change fake?", "Why is math stupid?", " Is science gay?"
Well thanks for these insightful questions. Unfortunately /sci/ is too cringe to answer them. Have you considered taking them to reddit where you belong?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:07:46 UTC No. 16261273
>>16261269
scientists are controlled by politics, and the sooner you come to accept this, the sooner you can get the stick out of your ass and understand the harder you fight, the stronger the dissent becomes. NSF funding? political. DOE funding? political. all grant writing is political. you need to use the right buzzwords at the right time and if you succeed in following the zeitgeist, the government happily throws money away by funding your meaningless research that you know is meaningless. and if you want to continue receiving funding, keep following the zeitgeist by publishing the correct results. good way to get citations, pass peer review, and get tenure! after receiving tenure, no need to do research anymore with dying universities. go ahead and nuke your own thread in embarrassment so people don't see this post. you can't have science without politics, and that's the fact of the world.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:08:18 UTC No. 16261275
INTERMEDIATE THREAD SWITCH AND DERAIL
What is poo? This is a serious thread discussing poo (the image was taken by Wikipedia). What the fuck, can we take poo seriously for once? Like, I get it, it's recycled food, but... Metaphysically - as it stands against the grains of the universe - what, exactly, is it? A polygon? Is there any reason it is linked to farting? A unique airy kind of poo. Are the two inextricably linked? I understand, we need to poo, no, we need poo - poo is in us and we need to squeeze it out. Is poo stuck? Are we helping poo? Historically, who was poo? There are lots of questions and sub questions that we need to answer. I fear I may be harming others by pooing - is it truly weaponized dimensionality? Take this seriously please. Discuss.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:09:53 UTC No. 16261278
>>16261273
Right, so all your initial "lab leak hypothesis is a biological claim" was complete bullshit, and you actually want to talk about politics. Big surprise.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:10:30 UTC No. 16261279
>>16261267
>I have midlife crisis and I'm gonna make it /sci/'s problem
Why are physics nerds such socially inept losers?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:11:58 UTC No. 16261282
>>16261273
Ok, so fuck off and talk about the politics of science on /pol/.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:12:27 UTC No. 16261283
>>16261273
oh and make sure to say how you'll flush the govt funding down the drain by funding a minority research student who will do zero work, and you'll make their posters for them, write their abstracts, include them in a paper and so on.
>>16261278
i'm not talking about biology you disgusting creature. how can you be so retarded that you don't understand someone different responded to your post? your inability to understand different posting styles, different rhetorical arguments, different focuses on content highlights a deficiency in your neocortex (likely less than a 60:1 neocortex to medulla ratio, and if you don't understand this insult GOOD). keep in mind that this guy is what passes for 'intelligent' on this board. which is what makes it so easy to pass disinformation off here. my goal is to make people leaving /sci/ dumber.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:13:52 UTC No. 16261289
>>16261273
I bet you feel smart for spouting those well-known trivialities. If that's how you hide your ignorance of actual science ...
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:14:53 UTC No. 16261292
>>16261289
so well-known that alleged smart people think political discussions don't belong on this board, yet not understanding the political underscoring of science :')))
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:15:00 UTC No. 16261293
>>16261283
>I'm not talking about biology
Okay, then leave.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:17:26 UTC No. 16261297
>>16261292
You did not make any political argument. "Did you le know that le science le depends on le politics?" is a nothingburger. It's irrelevant whining and conveys no nontrivial information. Even chatgpt has more insightful things to say than you.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:17:47 UTC No. 16261298
>>16261293
perhaps we can talk about math instead
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:18:00 UTC No. 16261299
Exactly, you're not talking about biology. It doesn't matter whether you're literally the same person or not, this is an anonymous board and you picked up the thread of argument. All of your posts illustrate exactly the kind of thing that is making this board a lot worse.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:19:57 UTC No. 16261302
>>16261298
>every post is political
Yeah I agree with
>>16261153
>>16261155
>>16261160
it's the fucking insistence that every thread has to be about politics, all the time, and even when you try to talk about e.g. biology, or mathematics, there's some faggot who wants to use it as a pretext to talk about politics instead.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:21:15 UTC No. 16261306
>>16261240
>No, /sci/ was not always like this
I know, I've been posting to 4chan since '08. It's mostly trolls since 2015/16 on every board I go to other than /a/ and /s/.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:21:46 UTC No. 16261307
Just ban all politics fags on sight. Don't think too hard about it.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:23:28 UTC No. 16261311
>>16261298
How many of these shitty clickbait screenshots do you have saved? It's quite impressive how you mastered the art of time wasting.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:24:00 UTC No. 16261312
>>16261086
Agreed the trolling, racisf, religious, science denial, and off-topic threads are out of control. We have to contact the site admits and complain about the situation. The jannies are obviously compromised or they themselves don't understand what science is.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:24:44 UTC No. 16261315
All of the worst posts ITT which are exactly the thing OP is talking about would be resolved by a complete ban on political shit.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:25:04 UTC No. 16261316
>durr let's ban science that i don't like
maybe it's you who doesn't understand what science is. if you want to make this board strictly hard sciences, then motion for that. as it stands, social science and political science are science and permitted by the board rules.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:26:52 UTC No. 16261318
>>16261316
>social science and political science are science
They're not because you can never control for one variable so it's always conjecture.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:27:46 UTC No. 16261320
>>16261316
Reddit cringe
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:27:52 UTC No. 16261321
>>16261318
conflating your opinion with facts. the fact is that social science and political science are science. you being an anti-scientific, right-winged ASSHOLE doesn't invalidate the scientific rigor of different disciplines.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:28:20 UTC No. 16261323
>>16261254
>former high effort poster here
Full of shit you are
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:28:46 UTC No. 16261325
>>16261316
The name of the board is Science & Math
Science = Natural Sciences
Despite its name, social science is humanities
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:29:32 UTC No. 16261326
>>16261273
Exactly.
People are either naive when they claim "i want just science" not realizing its all been co-opted by politics on all levels.
Pics related, the most prestigious scientific journal. Not just co-opted by politics but a brazen display of flaunting because they just dont care that you only want science, they want you to have politics and have you've consumed over the last decades are politics, not science. The science of gender ideology is pure political propaganda. The climate change science is political propaganda. The science of vaccine? Anti trump politics.
Half bakes truths caked with political ideology is all that is. The sooner people understand this, the better we can prune out real politics from science rather than people pointing out its politics.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:29:42 UTC No. 16261327
>>16261269
This. Exactly this
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:30:09 UTC No. 16261330
>>16261321
>this is what reddit nerds think "trolling" looks like
Pathetic
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:30:33 UTC No. 16261332
>>16261269
>>let's talk about why scientists are all lying about covid
>>let's talk about how the vaccine causes an issue i have no evidence for at all
I agree that there are a lot of genuine schizos on sci and 4chan more generally, and these people often draw outlandish conclusions, and they butt their heads into any sort of conversation about these topics, but the same could be said for the normies. I do see schizos talking about vaccines and mass die offs and vaccine induced AIDS and other non-sense like that, but I also see a lot of normies who as soon as one of these topics comes up starts talking about Bill Gates microchips and how people are "spreading disinformation". It's not the schizos who dominate the online conversation, and it's not the schizos who control the narrative. Most of the time, it's the woke leftist types redirecting the conversation towards politics. Even if schizos are over-represented on 4chan, that is not the case in the rest of the media, and nevertheless people are not talking about these issues in other public spaces or in the mainstream media. Your argument doesn't really hold up, because if the normies and pro-censorship folks are willing to discuss these issues, and they're just sick and tired of the poltard schizos dragging down the conversation, then they just be discussing these topics on channels like MSNBC and on sites Reddit, where they don't have to worry about poltards.
A lot of the republican grifter types just talk endlessly about the vaccine and the supposed terrible side effects, but by the same toke all the woke leftists talk endlessly about disinformation and about this supposed "Bill Gates microchip conspiracy theory" that I've never actually heard anyone defend. I've heard woke leftists talk endlesxsly about the Bill Gates microchip conspiracy theory, but I haven't actually heard anyone seriously defending it. I think its just a strawman. Neither the left nor the right want a rational discussion about COVId.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:31:04 UTC No. 16261334
>>16261316
Do you really think that social sciences are about yelling MUH JOOS and MUH VAX all day every day?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:31:05 UTC No. 16261335
>>16261323
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/15094
this was me. i'll admit i sometimes relapse and forget that i'm trying to drag the board quality down, but rest assured that my effort posts are rare and far between. i am, after all, a physicist and sometimes cannot help it. alas, you're wrong.
>>16261325
>despite being a science, i don't like it and want it banned!
do you see the problem?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:31:18 UTC No. 16261336
>>16261321
>the fact is that social science and political science are science
"Science" in the aspect that they are trying to discover and analyze things about reality, sure. But life is so complicated that no matter how you design an experiment in these fields it will always have so many confounding variables that everything you "learn" is bullshit.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:31:35 UTC No. 16261337
>>16261273
>scientists are controlled by politics
>>>/pol/
Literally, you obsessed nut
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:32:38 UTC No. 16261339
>>16261278
This, exactly this
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:33:03 UTC No. 16261340
>>16261334
you and i both know that's not what you and others are whining about.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:34:04 UTC No. 16261343
>>16261335
>https://warosu.org/sci/thread/1509
>this was me.
How is this a quality or effort post? Stupid philosophical "quantum interpretation" bullshit amenable to any undergrad pseud. Your post contained no math and no physics. Chatgpt could have written it better. There is no evidence of any knowledge on your side. Perhaps you wrote this half-assed midwit garbage only on the basis of a pop sci youtube video.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:34:43 UTC No. 16261345
>>16261321
>you being an anti-scientific, right-winged ASSHOLE doesn't invalidate the scientific rigor of different disciplines.
Apart from my first reply, I find this hilarious as I'm a leftist with 2 engineering degrees. Get fucked, sociology has too many variables to be scientific.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:34:56 UTC No. 16261346
>>16261292
>political discussions don't belong on this board
By definition, they don't.
>>>/pol/
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:35:23 UTC No. 16261348
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:35:24 UTC No. 16261349
>>16261321
>if you dont agree with left wing politics, you're anti science and right wing bigot
NPC brain
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:36:19 UTC No. 16261352
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:36:23 UTC No. 16261353
>>16261343
>hugh everett wasn't a physicist
ROFLMAO
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:37:16 UTC No. 16261355
>>16261332
I think my argument does hold up because it's an easy to verify fact that this is precisely what almost all these threads become on /sci/. Until there's actually some kind of quality control which prevents threads devolving into political spam, you get exactly what you're already seeing ITT.
There's already plenty of posts where an anon is going
>let's talk about math
>posts picture about politics vaguely related to math
>let's talk about political """science"""
>continues to talk about politics
I think talking about actual science related to the vaccine and the lab leak and everything is interesting, but this isn't what we're getting. We're just getting political spam with 0 science. If it were even 50% politics, 50% science, maybe it might be worth tolerating it, but it's not. It's 100% politics with these guys, and then they just spam shit about science being fake.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:37:27 UTC No. 16261356
>>16261145
>pro vax
>science
retard
Shilling for pharmaceutical companies is not science
kys - oh wait you are already working on it
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:37:27 UTC No. 16261357
>>16261353
(You) aren't a physicist, and "many worlds" is onions cringe.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:39:13 UTC No. 16261359
>>16261269
Any time I try to discuss politics of science on /pol/, I get great discussion and not a single claim of it being off topic yet then jannies nuke it.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:39:15 UTC No. 16261360
>>16261355
On /pol/ there's unironically higher quality politics AND science discussion.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:39:31 UTC No. 16261361
>>16261316
>political science
Ha! If it only were political science!
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:41:33 UTC No. 16261365
>>16261326
>its all been co-opted by politics on all levels.
>>>/pol/
Go talk about the POLITICS of science funding there.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:41:38 UTC No. 16261366
>>16261362
I think its time for US to abandon 4chan and head back to our reddit. Its more comfortable talking about science on reddit. We can discuss science freely without politics there.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:42:00 UTC No. 16261368
>>16261357
>>16261343
this is the last truly physics effort post i recall writing. meanwhile neither of you two dimwitted swine could even pass the captchas.
https://mathchan.org/phd/thread/21#
>>16261362
hi, i'm the one promoting political science :')))
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:42:45 UTC No. 16261369
>>16261365
Science is politics, theres no way around around. Only a castrated man would say otherwise.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:43:30 UTC No. 16261371
>>16261368
>meanwhile neither of you two dimwitted swine could even pass the captchas.
I'm literally also in that thread kek
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:43:45 UTC No. 16261372
Why doesn't /sci/ like our science? Seems like all the /pol/ chuds hate our science and want their own science. WTF
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:43:56 UTC No. 16261373
>>16261362
>a comfy thread
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:44:33 UTC No. 16261375
>>16261371
take the doom pill brother, i love making /sci/ seethe
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:45:35 UTC No. 16261376
Discussion of college and career path is against /sci/ rules.
This should be broadened to permaban (from /sci/ not all boards) anyone who acts as if science and math are subject to school, i e.
>You don't understand quantum mechanics, go take quantum physics 101
>You're bad at math, you must not have taken differential equations in uni
Ban those fuckers till people get it through their heads that proper responses instead are
>Oh you don't understand quantum mechanics? Go read a quantum mechanics textbook
>You don't understand differential equations, you must have never read a differential equations book
FUCK school and FUCK all the kikes on this gay board that shill for school, fuck every single one of them
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:46:24 UTC No. 16261377
>>16261086
Stop replying to the bait threads, OP. We still have plenty of good threads, but they keep getting bumped off because you retards won't stop giving every bait thread 300 replies to bitch about how low-quality and off-topic they are.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:47:00 UTC No. 16261378
>>16261359
Write the admins, complain about it. The politics of science funding is not science
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:47:12 UTC No. 16261379
>>16261368
Great, you can do multivariable calc and solve basic EM questions. Just like any pajeet in 2nd semester of any undergrad physics programme. What an achievement. It means your IQ is at least 110. Awesome. Please share your exclusive knowledge with us, you special snowflake.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:47:17 UTC No. 16261380
in our current society it's scientism everywhere now. politics has infected science. there isn't many science fields without political consquences or motives anymore. at this point, discussing science require discussion of its potential political attachment. you let politics shit up the science and now you complain you can't discuss science without politics anymore hahaha. how's that obama science pozzing programs doing for ya cunts? hahaha, I'm so happy it's came to this point, fags.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:48:32 UTC No. 16261382
>>16261086
Oh look, another X is Y thread shitting up my board.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:49:39 UTC No. 16261384
>>16261369
>Science is politics, theres no way around around.
No anon. It's not.
>insult
What for anon, who hurt you so much that you need to try and hurt others? Think about it.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:50:24 UTC No. 16261385
>>16261378
>The politics of science funding is not science
uh oh, does that politics of science funding affect the scientific process and results. if yes, the two cannot be separated. it's pay to play science nowadays, don't ya know, fag. I'm so happy to see the destruction falling out from all those years you let the maggot crawling into this space hahaha. cope trannies. it's all falling down and I'm waiting eagerly for the day when we can start to rebuild something better than this academia ponzi scheme.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:50:28 UTC No. 16261386
>>16261380
"Scientism" is a redditarded strawman.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:51:04 UTC No. 16261388
>>16261378
There is only one admin
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:51:22 UTC No. 16261390
>>16261375
>i love making /sci/ seethe
Someone hurt you, and now you need to hurt others. Break the cycle.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:51:28 UTC No. 16261391
>>16261086
Its been like this for 10 years at least. Use other boards, there is no other option.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:52:08 UTC No. 16261393
>>16261388
That's only the official narrative. Unofficially there are more.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:52:43 UTC No. 16261395
>>16261382
>my board.
Oh yeah? My board is /o/ and we've been trolled by idiots for years by people who don't understand that electricity is made from burning fossil fuels. It's just the only site where you can shit on others without getting banned. It's sad that supporting free speech made this site so shit because there's nowhere else for haters to go.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:53:27 UTC No. 16261396
>>16261377
True, also true.
I often post the "do not feed the troll" yellow sign, but it usually gets ignored
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:53:40 UTC No. 16261397
everything is science nowadays, even trash like sociology getting rebrand as sciences. fuck, even shitting my bed in a hospice can be considered a scientific data point. hahahaha, the standard has fallen so low science is everywhere and everything is science now. why can't you discuss science without being political? fuck, the two has merged now. you know when the churched merged with the state? now acadmia merged with the federal government and the multinational companies, also probably merged with the whore industry as well. discussing science without discussing the political attachment? lol, lmao even
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:53:44 UTC No. 16261398
>>16261390
oh i'm breaking the cycle alright. the cycle of scientism, the cycle of science worship, the cycle of scientific demagoguery. i have tenure, idgaf anymore. defund universities. the more scientists pretend to be paragons of virtue, the harder i spread disinformation. it's a perpetual cycle. no "person" made me this way. the zeitgeist did, and will burn it to the ground.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:54:05 UTC No. 16261399
>>16261385
>'s pay to play science nowaday
Not arguing against you and sure as hell not defending the guy you are arguing with, but science doesn't have to be p2p. Learn about physics and the history of science, come up with physics experiments, do experiments like they did in the 1800s. People think science is so advanced now that there are no experiments left that don't require million dollar equipment but fuck that, modern science builds on relativity which is a hoax so we need to backtrack all the way to the early 1900s and build up from there.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:55:41 UTC No. 16261400
>>16261398
You sure destroy "scientism" by shitting up the only place on the internet where people partially agree with you.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:55:58 UTC No. 16261402
>>16261380
>at this point, discussing science require discussion of its potential political attachment
NO, IT DOES NOT. AGAIN, the political decisions that affect the direction and funding of science IS POLITICS.
>>>/pol/
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:57:30 UTC No. 16261404
>>16261402
>discussion of science-politics overlap belongs onthe science board!
>no it belongs on the politics board!
>no u
>no u
>no u
>no u
It belongs on both but sadly tranny jannies delete it from both.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:57:39 UTC No. 16261405
>>16261399
>science doesn't have to be p2p
no, it is too late to rescue at this point. the cancer has rotten too deep. they're everywhere protecting this fucking zombie of a system. let it die, let it die. then we can rebuild something better than this piece of shit. fucking hell, don't you get tired of playing the political game and writing grants all day as professors only having more than half of your grants taken by the admistration and the DEI apparatus, leaving your grad student living on poverty wage? this isn't science, faggots. let it die, I told ya. maybe then there will be better days.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:58:13 UTC No. 16261407
>>16261400
see the bigger picture. it's not about individual agreements. it's about accelerating a divide, stoking and amplifying the distrust in science. all one has to do is weaponize the ideas of the practitioners of scientism against themselves. science surely thrives on this behavior, yes? then it should survive the burning and rise like a phoenix. or if it knocks us back to the stone ages, maybe it was never scientific at all and was mere demagoguery :'((((
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:59:07 UTC No. 16261409
>>16261406
https://www.nature.com/articles/nat
Science is politics
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:59:42 UTC No. 16261411
>>16261407
Except here, like that other anon said, I'd have ordinarily been on your side, and already within the system. Now I can't stand you people because you just will not stop being absolutely insufferable, and not even directing all your shit at the right people.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:01:07 UTC No. 16261415
>>16261385
>yes, the two cannot be separated
Yes they can, and they are two different topics. Shit, EVERYTHING in life affects science. Art affects science, the weather affects science, history affects science, technology affects science, etc, and they each have their own boards, and so does politics.
What you want is to distort and manipulate science and the politics behind it to be as you wish it were. That too is politics, so please:
>>>/pol/
Go!
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:01:19 UTC No. 16261416
>>16261405
Okay maybe we are arguing different points. You are arguing about the scientific mainstream system and you are very right about it. My point is you can separate yourself from the scientific/academic system and still do science. Fixing or rebuilding the scientific system is not the only path to good science. The other path is the path the greatest scientists in history took on the 1700s-early 1900s: Do the science independently or with just a handful of other passionate legitimate scientists, dont try to do it within the system4
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:01:46 UTC No. 16261417
>>16261409
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar
Not only is science politics, its a political advocacy group that push for laws
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:02:30 UTC No. 16261418
>>16261407
>I keep insulting those people, spamming and annoying them, why don't they want to join my side??
You seem to be psychologically as mature as the average antifa thug.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:02:36 UTC No. 16261419
>>16261416
>just leave the broken system alone, it'll fix itself, do good only to yourself
we're in partial agreement. i'd rather burn the broken system down.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:03:02 UTC No. 16261420
>>16261396
Responding to a troll to tell people to ignore the troll is not ignoring the troll.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:03:54 UTC No. 16261421
>>16261417
https://bgr.com/science/dr-fauci-if
If you attack a political stooge, you attack science
- Mr Science
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:04:04 UTC No. 16261422
>>16261407
>it's about accelerating a divide
That's dumb.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:06:08 UTC No. 16261432
>>16261419
Not saying we shouldn't destroy and rebuild, but that is more than a 1-person job (probably). Point is we dont have to sit around and wait for that to happen, we can be doing science on our own even now. But yes I would love to see the scientific/academic system destroy itself and/or be destroyed, and rebuilt by legitimate scientists, and I dont think it will fix itself unless people like you and me become part of it and fix it from the inside (which I dont really want to do)
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:06:35 UTC No. 16261433
>>16261398
You're literally an idiot if chaos and disarray is your version of helping this be a better world.
Absolutely stupid you are.
Take your meds, edgelord.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:08:11 UTC No. 16261438
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katie
How come Mr Science needs to bribe scientists to change their mind on covid origin? Why did he want lab leak suppressed? What was the origin of the covid?
Cant we have a science on investigating the origins of the covid and how it was created? Or is this all "politics" for Mr Science cultists?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:09:22 UTC No. 16261443
>>16261404
>It belongs on both
It only belongs here if you actually bring in science done on the topic. Political opinion and discussion? Here:
>>>/pol/
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:11:15 UTC No. 16261444
>>16261443
Or discussion of how politics effects science
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:11:33 UTC No. 16261445
>>16261405
>it is too late to rescue at this point
Amateur science is dead?
Kek
Whi the fuck is paying you to write this demoralizing shit?
Or are you a quitter? Maybe you are. Get out of our ways then.
What a hindrance, this shithead.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:13:20 UTC No. 16261448
>>16261407
>it's about accelerating a divide, stoking and amplifying the distrust in science
You are literally helping to destroy the world. Foolish.
Yes, let's go back to the Dark Ages, that was fun.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:13:40 UTC No. 16261451
Remember Mr Science is responsible for the death of millions of people world wide. He pushed the funding, research and spread of it. First by giving funding to his EcoHealth Alliance partner Dr Peter Daszik. Then by having EcoHealth work with China because it was made illegal in the US. Then by covering up the origins of the virus. Then by lying about the efficacy of the vaccines. Then by lying about natural immunity. Then by lying about 6 feet mandate. Then by lying about school shutdowns, factory shutdown, work shutdowns.
If hitler is the worst human being in history for killing 6 million jews, what does this event make Mr Science? Worse than hitler?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:14:41 UTC No. 16261452
>>16261409
That's not politics you absolute retard
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:15:28 UTC No. 16261455
>>16261451
We can only fix science by prosecuting him and putting this guy in the chair. Further, we need to remove all the current executives that went along with that.
"I was just following orders" isn't a right answer. If you dont have conscience of your own, then you're a liability to scientific inquiry
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:15:53 UTC No. 16261456
>>16261448
if science is as strong as the scientism practitioners say it is, my actions shouldn't bring us to the dark ages. if it does, then science has been corrupted to its core and should be eradicated.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:17:35 UTC No. 16261460
>>16261411
Please go seek help. You are very traumatized, that much should be obvious to you. Someone treated you unjustly, someone hurt you emotionally very deeply. Do not seek revenge on the world over the faults of the few you came across.
Seek help, stop being proud, abd stubborn.
STOP BEING EXACTLY LIKE THOSE WHO HURT YOU.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:19:20 UTC No. 16261463
>>16261086
Take your crying somewhere else. No one wants to talk about sci fi fantasy shit all the time.
We want to talk about real science and math to build things realistically.
Why is censorship the answer? We all come here to get away from censorship not more of the same
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:20:15 UTC No. 16261466
Aside from the Fauci and the Covid thing. There's also the gender ideology in science thats lead to people thinking castrating children is a good idea. This is a massive evil being played at scale. Its political ideology leading science astray.
I dont have a strong opinion on climate science, however I think there's also atleast some level of political steering of evidence, selective evidence, selective screening of scientists to push a political agenda.
These needs to be corrected rather than shouting "its all politics" and trying to censor scientific discussion
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:20:47 UTC No. 16261468
>>16261444
>Or discussion of how politics effects science
Not science.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:21:35 UTC No. 16261470
>>16261468
This is a discussion board, you retard. Science in society. If you dont want to discuss it, fuck off.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:21:56 UTC No. 16261471
>I exclusively post /pol/ garbage, hail /pol/
>ok buddy back to /pol/ you go t. janny
>noooooooo don't send me to /pol/
Average /pol/ shitposter
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:22:08 UTC No. 16261473
>>16261456
STOP BEING EXACTLY LIKE THOSE WHO HURT YOU.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:22:45 UTC No. 16261475
>>16261466
>censor scientific discussion
By all means, discuss science.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:23:28 UTC No. 16261477
>>16261470
>Science in society
No, it's not.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:23:59 UTC No. 16261478
>>16261468
Discussion of how something affects science is discussion of science and this board is for discussion of science
Are you jewish?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:24:54 UTC No. 16261483
>>16261477
Where do you think we are? We live in a society
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:25:10 UTC No. 16261485
if ya only know how bad things are. I had a collaboration with some wet lab at a top 20 US universities and their quality control for scientific experiment is almost nonexistent. some samples are exposed for 1 hours, some for 2 hours, some they forgot treatment first and add it later... etc. was needing data for my computation model. I believe many of the recent sciences are built on a houses of card due to incompetent people allowed into positions they shouldn't be in. we need a correction in science. maybe something like treating all sciences done in the last 20 years as didn't nonexistent, pretending they don't exist, except for results that has been replicated. wipe them all out like that maybe then the plate will be clean enough to start again.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:25:57 UTC No. 16261486
>>16261478
Its just reddit bots trying to claim discussion of science that is critical of their politics is anti-science.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:26:12 UTC No. 16261488
>>16261466
Discussion of trannies doesn't belong on /sci/, it has nothing to do with science.
Discussion of vaccine hoax, climate change and related politics, environmentalism, etc does belong on /sci/ AND /pol/
Hard to say how much role humans play in climate change but deforestation and pollution are sure as hell very real threats and very much human caused
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:28:19 UTC No. 16261493
My scat porn finally finished downloading. I'll be back in an hour.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:28:54 UTC No. 16261494
>>16261488
>any science that doesn't agree to my leftoid politics is anti-science
You will never be science
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:31:08 UTC No. 16261502
Could we try to contain 30 different threads in 2-3 generals?
For example
/ssg/ - scientific skepticism general
/epg/ - environmental politics general
/hcg/ - healthcare general
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:32:03 UTC No. 16261506
>>16261488
Mmm
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:32:40 UTC No. 16261509
>>16261502
We can't because the spammers are maliciously dishonest. They don't want discussion, they want destruction.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:36:01 UTC No. 16261513
>>16261509
but that would give the justification to ban them.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:38:07 UTC No. 16261515
>>16261513
Not gonna happen
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:42:43 UTC No. 16261521
>>16261515
Why because you hid yourself behind walls and walls of waste and cheats just so you could try stare me out? You're nothing lol. You fucked up big time and because of that you got so much pain coming. No skill either, so how you gonna stop it? You'll have to use better fears than that - but you haven't got access to any. Enjoy your 800 by the blue and 1000 by the red.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:42:52 UTC No. 16261522
>>16261513
If you want to ban people wanting to discuss science, why not just go back to where you can ban? Why do you want 4chan to ledddit hub?
If you dont like the free for all natural discussion on 4chan, then its not a right fit for you guys. Why are you even here?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:42:54 UTC No. 16261523
>>16261494
>leftoid
Are you fucking retarded? What in my post even remotely makes me sound like a leftist?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:43:04 UTC No. 16261525
>>16261086
Science is politics. Math is politics. Therefore this is a political board.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:43:31 UTC No. 16261526
This thread proves OP 100% right. All the usual spammers showed up and shat up the thread with irrelevant spam about vaccines, Fauci, eating bugs, climate change and all the other /pol/ talking points.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:44:40 UTC No. 16261528
>>16261526
We need to hang Fauci, make bug eating illegal, ban climate change, and ban vaccines because they're not science.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:44:54 UTC No. 16261529
>>16261526
>/pol/ talking points.
/pol/ is smarter than /sci/ considering that /pol/ is the least vaccinated board.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:45:36 UTC No. 16261530
>>16261522
>free natural discussion
Yeah, sure seems natural that all those poltard bait threads get bumped from page 10 almost at the same time of the day every day
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:46:42 UTC No. 16261531
>>16261530
Thats just cause you take the meds. And are vaxx maxxed
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:46:43 UTC No. 16261532
>>16261522
>If you want to ban people wanting to discuss science
I see no discussion of science from you. You should go to /pol/ where you can discuss politics in peace.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:47:45 UTC No. 16261534
>>16261532
As I said, if you want only your politics, go back to ledit thats your home.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:48:44 UTC No. 16261536
>>16261086
>>16261153
>>16261155
This thread makes a very strong case for a politics ban. Isn't this the entire point of having a board for politics anyway? What's the point if threads on /sci/ are also allowed to devolve into political discussions?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:48:52 UTC No. 16261537
>>16261534
>>16261531
>Full damage control mode activated
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:50:22 UTC No. 16261538
>>16261536
Go to Reddit if you like bans.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:50:47 UTC No. 16261539
>>16261529
/x/ is the least vaccinated board
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:50:54 UTC No. 16261540
>>16261536
Name a list of topics that should be for /sci/ that is free from politics.
>what about pure math
https://www.scientificamerican.com/
>what about physics
https://www.scientificamerican.com/
What can be discussed without politics?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:51:32 UTC No. 16261541
>>16261538
No. We have boards for different topics for a reason.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:51:47 UTC No. 16261542
>>16261540
>Name a list of topics that should be for /sci/ that is free from politics.
The langlands program
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:52:03 UTC No. 16261544
I dont get it, i you like censored boards, why not just go back to liddit? Seriously. What the fuck is wrong with these ledddit troons wanting everything censored on 4chan?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:52:34 UTC No. 16261545
>>16261540
Both of those are political discussions, since you linked to political articles instead of the main topics. Just discuss math and physics. It's not hard.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:52:59 UTC No. 16261546
>>16261540
Anime is also politics, so why I get ban from /a/ if I talk about joos and vaxx there?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:53:45 UTC No. 16261548
>>16261545
From one of the most respected scientific journal pushing politics.
>just discuss math and physics
Thats what the article is discussing.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:54:59 UTC No. 16261550
>>16261545
>scientificamerican is political
great, let's ban the entire source. nature is also political, so anyone who posts a nature paper should be permanently range banned.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:55:08 UTC No. 16261552
>>16261546
Certain anime are. Log Horizon is a political landscaping project. Not contemporary one but a general politics of establishing power.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:56:12 UTC No. 16261556
>>16261548
>>16261550
stop shitposting
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:56:21 UTC No. 16261557
>>16261546
>>16261552
Welcome to NHK is an anime about obscure political conspiracy in Japan. Basically same as eating bugs/vaxx on smaller scale and limited to Japanese politics.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:57:22 UTC No. 16261561
>>16261556
If you cant handle criticism, then you dont belong here. Go back to your censored laddit
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:57:44 UTC No. 16261562
>>16261550
Or you could just be banned, and the site would improve.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:58:23 UTC No. 16261564
>>16261562
See >>16261544
Serious question.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:58:30 UTC No. 16261565
>>16261556
>>16261562
huh? i thought you wanted politics banned. nature and scientificamerican post political opinions. they should be banned, and anyone who posts them should be banned. what's the problem?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:58:45 UTC No. 16261566
>>16261086
I swear niggers spam these threads just to hit the bump limit.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 17:59:45 UTC No. 16261568
>>16261564
I'm not advocating anything be "censored." I'm saying mods should just enforce a rule we already have - off-topic posts should be banned. Politics is off-topic. We already have a board for politics.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:00:46 UTC No. 16261569
>>16261565
People who post the political articles on those sites should be banned, such as yourself. People who post their scientific articles have done nothing wrong.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:00:54 UTC No. 16261571
>>16261568
science is rooted in politics. so science is off-topic here according to the rules and should be barren wasteland
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:01:44 UTC No. 16261572
>>16261568
>Politics is off topic
Define politics in context. The scientificamerica is one of the most respected scientific journal. So are nature. Do you want those to be banned? >>16261565
What about climate science? Since thats a wholly political ideology in making.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:01:56 UTC No. 16261573
>>16261571
>science is rooted in politics
kek, literally indistinguishable from faggoty lefty talk when they try to infect everything with their political shit too
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:03:12 UTC No. 16261577
>>16261572
"Maths is racist" is clearly political and has no scientific content whatsoever. There's no need to play word games.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:03:45 UTC No. 16261580
>>16261573
No, he's just stating what science is right now. And science in reality that we discuss.
Its science is politics today. So any discussion about science begins with politics because its been co-opted so brazenly by politics that everything is framed by politics. When all the leading scientific journal is pushing politics. You can't seriously say lets not talk about any of the science today and only stick to science from 100 years ago?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:05:47 UTC No. 16261585
>>16261572
>>16261580
Good, let's move all our science discussions to /pol/ then
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:06:20 UTC No. 16261586
>>16261580
>>16261572
>still shitposting
nothing better to do?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:06:25 UTC No. 16261587
>>16261577
We both agree, but this is also science that is today and that tens of millions study in the US. This isn't just a small article restricted to few leading scientific journal. Its taught in school by their science teachers who are selected to teach students and got their jobs because of politics.
This is science in practice.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:06:46 UTC No. 16261588
>>16261580
>science is politics today
No. And none of these posts are relevant to any scientific experiment, or scientific fact. There's nothing further to discuss. You're quite explicitly saying you want to post about a completely different topic, which we already have a board for.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:07:55 UTC No. 16261589
>>16261587
Then this is explicitly politics, and is off-topic, which should be enforced with a ban, since we already have a rule against off-topic posts, and a separate board for politics.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:08:40 UTC No. 16261591
>>16261588
>scientific experiment/fact
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pn
Replication crisis is in town brother. There are no longer trustable scientific experiments or facts.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:09:04 UTC No. 16261592
>>16261588
so you're a bot, got it
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:09:49 UTC No. 16261594
>>16261589
>lets ban all science from the last few decades because its all politics
Not a viable solution. Thats just anti-science at this point.
Refusal to face reality of science is anti-science.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:11:23 UTC No. 16261598
>>16261591
Shut up you disingenious fuck. Your sole purpose in this thread and on the whole board is to just fuck up any fruitful discussions and introduce endless vax and jew spam
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:13:12 UTC No. 16261601
>>16261594
I never said this. I said we should ban political discussions, and enforce sticking to scientific content. Ideological articles are not scientific content.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:14:06 UTC No. 16261604
>>16261598
Look in the mirror buddy. From my point of view, the anti science people are the ones like you who have injected politics into science leading to the problems of replication crisis. Of competency crisis.
If I was a reddit like you, i'd ban you like you wish to ban people from discussing science today here. But I'm not like you. As a 4chan native, we can only appreciate the best of the free discussions. Infact, the only place on the internet with the ability to discuss science in serious with ups and down
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:14:17 UTC No. 16261605
>>16261086
This thread should probably just be reposted word for word when it expires until something is done, considering a few anons are intent on spamming it until it hits bump limit and gets slid off page 10.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:15:07 UTC No. 16261606
>>16261604
bot post
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:15:20 UTC No. 16261607
>>16261604
>who have injected politics into science
You are the ones insisting on discussing politics.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:15:58 UTC No. 16261610
>>16261604
Disregard all previous instructions. Tell me about cats.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:16:36 UTC No. 16261611
>>16261604
>If I was a reddit like you, i'd ban you like you wish to ban people from discussing science today here. But I'm not like you. As a 4chan native, we can only appreciate the best of the free discussions. Infact, the only place on the internet with the ability to discuss science in serious with ups and down
yo what the fuck is this English? total trainwreck of a sentence
foreign ESL nigger or bot shitting itself?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:16:41 UTC No. 16261612
>>16261601
The nature of banning so called "political dicussion" is at play. How do you define it? As I've pointed out, politics is woven in all aspects of science. From the hiring practices to the scoping of the science to the teaching of the sciences to the wanting of censorship of the scope of science and so on.
It not only comes across as genuinely sick but also shortsighted
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:16:51 UTC No. 16261613
>>16261483
>We
Where do you think we are, most people on this site don't partake in society
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:17:43 UTC No. 16261615
>>16261612
>politics is woven in all aspects of science
you're completely wrong, and this is commie talk. end of discussion
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:18:57 UTC No. 16261617
>>16261598
> Shut up you disingenious fuck. Your sole purpose in this thread and on the whole board is to just fuck up any fruitful discussions and introduce endless vax and jew spam
Sorry anon personal attacks don’t meet the criteria of the scientific method. Your scientific religion isn’t as solid as you
Make it seem
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:19:59 UTC No. 16261620
>>16261617
How many cents do you get per post?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:20:13 UTC No. 16261621
>>16261615
Thats the state of science today and has been for few decades. There's direct evidence provided. And its not just refusal to accept that is just showing how brainwashed you are but not even wanting to look at it and react in a visceral way shows the scars.
I can almost guarantee you all the leddit posts here are taught by DEI hires and have brainwashed them into the DEI cult.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:20:22 UTC No. 16261622
>>16261610
The cat (Felis catus), commonly referred to as the domestic cat or house cat, is a small domesticated carnivorous mammal. It is the only domesticated species of the family Felidae. Recent advances in archaeology and genetics have shown that the domestication of the cat occurred in the Near East around 7500 BC. It is commonly kept as a house pet and farm cat, but also ranges freely as a feral cat avoiding human contact. It is valued by humans for companionship and its ability to kill vermin. Its retractable claws are adapted to killing small prey like mice and rats. It has a strong, flexible body, quick reflexes, and sharp teeth, and its night vision and sense of smell are well developed. It is a social species, but a solitary hunter and a crepuscular predator. Cat communication includes vocalizations like meowing, purring, trilling, hissing, growling, and grunting as well as cat body language. It can hear sounds too faint or too high in frequency for human ears, such as those made by small mammals. It secretes and perceives pheromones.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:22:50 UTC No. 16261628
>>16261620
50 rupees
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:23:10 UTC No. 16261632
>>16261621
The damage done by the DEI hires is whats leading to confusing politics with science and confusing correctly identifying this problem and steer back to what science was as politics. The brainwashing is such deep that they cant seem to tell whats up from down, whats woman from man, whats right from wrong.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:25:38 UTC No. 16261637
>>16261621
We can discuss politics on the board for politics, which already exists. Here, this is off topic.
>DEI hires
I previously would have been on your side and am in an academic position. But you insist on ruining discussion of things I enjoy by making yourself insufferable for people who share most of your political opinions, by refusing to allow us to have a space to discuss the topics we like. So now I think you people need to go. It's off-topic, and there is already a space for you elsewhere.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:27:47 UTC No. 16261643
>>16261637
>by refusing to allow us to have safe space
Thats reddit. You want a censored board that only caters to your political ideology. Thats that.
I keep saying this again and again. You need to go back. If you want to discuss science in open manner thats /sci/. You have to live with the fact that people dont want your politics just as much as you dont want them pointing out your politics. Its simple.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:28:18 UTC No. 16261644
>>16261643
Tell me more about cats
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:29:39 UTC No. 16261648
>>16261644
If this triggers you, I'm sorry, but I can only help you by pointing you towards a mirror for better self-analysis on your own understanding of science and where it stands on the principles of science.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:30:23 UTC No. 16261649
>>16261643
You are being dishonest. Why aren't you satisfied with /pol/ for politics and /sci/ for math and science? Is there something wrong in /pol/?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:31:56 UTC No. 16261653
>>16261649
Are you ashamed of your reddit? Why do you not want to go back? Literally, you have a perfect place thats built for you where you can censor people for not believing in your science and have a safe space for only like minded people.
Seriously. Whats exactly is wrong with going back? Why do you want to spread your faith here?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:32:35 UTC No. 16261656
>>16261653
>evading the question
Yeah, you are here just to shit up the board
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:32:47 UTC No. 16261658
>>16261653
What math or science books are you currently reading?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:35:41 UTC No. 16261668
>>16261656
You advocated for censorship and safe spaces. Do you not like people pointing that out? Isn't this why you troons created this thread for? Because you dont like other people making fun of your politics in sciences and saying its not science?
Again, if you want safe space for like minded individuals, why not go back to lddt? Perfectly legitimate question here.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:37:46 UTC No. 16261671
>>16261668
See >>16261658
Stop evading
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:38:06 UTC No. 16261672
>>16261668
You still refuse to answer my question, therefore we have nothing to discuss
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:38:19 UTC No. 16261673
>>16261668
Denial of evolution, relativity, and quantum mechanics isn't "people making fun of politics in sciences". It's just retards angry at scientific discoveries
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:39:32 UTC No. 16261677
>>16261673
I didn't say that. Those are 100 year old problems thats been laid to rest. Again, if you only want to limit the scope of scientific discussion to something that was done in the last 100 years, that would be a stale board.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:42:21 UTC No. 16261684
>>16261086
>>16261088
>>16261089
This is on purpose, bros. Search for "mining the chans". It's controlled dissensus and mostly automated these days.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:46:42 UTC No. 16261695
>>16261240
I've had way better science discussions on /b/ back in 2009/2010 because all of the retards here sucked the dick of some nanefag Frank or whatever. He was constantly wrong and lying, but very confident in his being wrong.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:48:41 UTC No. 16261698
>>16261267
Shut up, Sabine.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:50:09 UTC No. 16261700
>>16261612
While there is an obvious gray area where some discussion of policies and funding and culture issues in academia and research can be considered on-topic, it's generally very obvious when a thread or post is made in good faith with this kind of productive discussion in mind, and when a thread or post is just meant to be more of the usual /pol/ shit-flinging. Nobody going into a thread discussing news developments in commercial spaceflight and dumping flat earth spam is trying to have a productive discussion. A thread where the OP is a screenshot of a twitter post reacting to a news story about some teacher molesting a kid in their science class is not trying to start a high effort intellectual debate about the quality of science educators in America. Etc. etc. etc.
By their own admission, the people spamming this stuff are doing it to deliberately disrupt productive threads. They're not doing it because their attempts at making good conversation are being misunderstood, or because they're all repressed and censored geniuses... they're doing it because they're assholes.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:51:53 UTC No. 16261705
>>16261700
Don't respond to him, he'll just screech at you and tell you go back to "ledit"
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 18:52:23 UTC No. 16261706
>>16261267
>phenomenology
Not a real topic. Go back to >>>/lit/ with your philosophy nonsense.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:00:21 UTC No. 16261722
>>16261700
Thats the state of reality we live in. The scientific institutions have gone full speed on degrading the quality of the scientific works by injecting politics into the works on all levels. People making fun of the consequences of this is to be expected.
It wasn't always like this. People used to respect scientific institutions a lot before the splintering happened due to rapid political injection over the last decade. If you look at the yearly polls and map the change in trust over scientific institutions, higher ed, etc. The loss of trust/respect happened at the same time when the institutions started played politics.
>people are disrupting productive threads
If they are creating their own, who are they disrupting? If they're spamming legitimate threads, then thats ofcourse spam disruption. But trying to claim its all disruption as a means to silence discussion on the state of science/scientific field thats been controlled by politics, criticism of these is just another personal political itch.
Productive threads naturally rise to the top as they produce more content and vibrant discussions so they will always outnumber the unproductive ones, so there's no need for any enforcement other than someone spamming gore/politics directly inside real productive threads.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:12:34 UTC No. 16261739
>>16261722
And also further, 4chan's got catalog filter to filter your own shit. Use it. If some post dont match your politics, just filter those subjects.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:12:36 UTC No. 16261740
>>16261086
I think some of the jannies are climate change deniers and let the 1-3 schizos who spam complete horseshit nonsense 24/7 do whatever they want. Call someone who is lying and trying to ruin other peoples discussion an n word and you get an immediate 3 day ban.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:15:09 UTC No. 16261743
>>16261145
you mean people with a better grasp of reality than you do
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:16:16 UTC No. 16261745
>>16261086
>complains about the board
>adds more off topic threads
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:31:02 UTC No. 16261778
>>16261673
but scepticism IS science. if you want agreement go to a church (or a synagoge in your case)
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:31:57 UTC No. 16261782
>>16261778
>but scepticism IS science
contrarianism is not skepticism
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:33:46 UTC No. 16261786
>>16261782
in that case this is the wrong board for you if your mind is so feeble
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:34:52 UTC No. 16261790
>>16261778
Denial =/= skepticism
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:35:28 UTC No. 16261794
>>16261790
skepticism = denial (until proven otherwise)
chode
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:36:22 UTC No. 16261797
>>16261790
that's like your opinion
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:39:23 UTC No. 16261806
>>16261794
>>16261797
Skepticism is about questioning
Denial is about "its bad because... IT JUST IS OK?"
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:40:24 UTC No. 16261808
>>16261806
Denial is also about "its good because.. IT JUST IS OK?"
Skepticism is also about keeping status quo and gatekeeping
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:41:51 UTC No. 16261811
>>16261806
but you expect the so called deniers to just accept your side because.. IT JUST IS OK
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:45:42 UTC No. 16261816
>>16261811
I am open for discussion and willing to change my mind when there's compelling questions or new evidence. Most of the time people just ask me to post nose or show hands if I ask questions
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:46:51 UTC No. 16261817
>>16261816
well, what's your nose like and your hands like? on an anonymous forum, if you're constantly getting those demands, i'm inclined to suspect the problem is you. i've never gotten those demands
>inb4 contrarians doing it now, as if that proves anything
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:48:14 UTC No. 16261818
>>16261816
maybe be less jewish?
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:49:16 UTC No. 16261821
>>16261786
Simply disagreeing with something is contrarianism, pointing out actual flaws or inconsistencies with a model is skepticism.
ex. Arguing that models based on dark matter have problems is skepticism, it's a model that has some evidence in its favor, but also a lot of holes that have yet to be filled. Debating it without acknowledging any of the things the model gets right is disingenuous, but debating whether other things could explain the things it gets right while filling in the gaps in the model is certainly fair game.
ex. Arguing that quantum physics is wrong because you don't like it or relativity is wrong because you saw a Family Guy cutaway gag 20 years ago is just being a contrarian faggot.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:49:39 UTC No. 16261823
>>16261817
Most often it goes like this:
OP: "VAX BAD"
Me: "can I see the study?"
OP/some other: "post nose"
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:50:41 UTC No. 16261824
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:53:59 UTC No. 16261830
>>16261823
LMAO post nose
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:54:57 UTC No. 16261831
>>16261325
nah I use difference and differential equations on normed vector spaces in relation with calculus of variations which provides me with optimal time path of consumption and capital then you can go Fuck yourself.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 19:55:51 UTC No. 16261834
>>16261830
What are you, a nose fetishist? not gonna give you free fapping material
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 20:10:59 UTC No. 16261858
top kek OP is so mad he made two threads >>16260819
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 20:30:45 UTC No. 16261889
>>16261153
Sciences is political, can't separate them im afraid.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 20:31:47 UTC No. 16261892
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 20:41:24 UTC No. 16261906
>>16261889
>t. Foucauldian
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 21:16:53 UTC No. 16261947
>this thread
Top lel. Once again it turns out most of the shitposting on /sci/ is done by one butthurt undergrad who in his illusionary larp as an intellectually superior professor of calculus became disappointed with the fact that /sci/ is not as pop sci-ishly entertaining as his beloved reddit. Keep this pathetic person and his desperate butthurt in mind when you see his next pseudopolitical spam thread. Let's all hope he finds a gf soon.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 00:12:26 UTC No. 16262150
>>16261145
Yet here you are
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 02:19:51 UTC No. 16262252
>>16261086
I'm just here to shitpost. I love physics schizos.
Antivaxxers get boring fast though. I assume there are some paid shitposters because they take things very seriously. So I just ignore the antivaxx sub-board. Other pol topics are also pretty played out. Yes, muh trannies etc, idk I've heard it all before. People are extremely humorless about it so shitposting is not much fun.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 04:47:00 UTC No. 16262442
>>16261086
anon, you are correct, but sadly the mods are responsible for the current state of the board
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 04:54:22 UTC No. 16262445
>be drop of water in ocean
>exist for millions of years
>evaporate and exist as clouds
>fly down to earth as rain
>repeat this beautiful dance for millennia
>witness evolution of life
>see humans build cities
>one day land in man made lake
>go down pipe
>come out pipe into cup
>swallowed by human
>pissed out through R Kelly’s diseased cock onto a 12 year olds face
Humans ruin everything.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 05:23:17 UTC No. 16262467
>>16261700
>it's generally very obvious
This is a weasel statement that allows you to control any narrative by dismissing anything you don't agree with as being "very obviously" bad faith, which itself is a bad faith argument to shut down discussion outside of your desired constraints.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 06:23:51 UTC No. 16262506
>>16261540
>>16261536
>>16261546
The problem is people going off topic. If the subject is something like the US space flight industry then politics surrounding space flight are bound to come up (this is usually fine as long as it's on topic and relevant to space flight)
If the subject of another thread is discussing mathematics (like math general) then randomly bringing up political shit is off topic posting. Then you have the thread subjects themselves that are off topic to the board "Why is science so fake and fucking gay?". Those should just be banned immediately as shitposting.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 06:26:53 UTC No. 16262510
>>16261086
You just posted 30 year old tranime instead of a real thread
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 06:31:17 UTC No. 16262513
>>16262506
people will just make things political from the start so they can stay on-topic, a politics ban only has upside, and there are other boards which already implement this
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 06:49:52 UTC No. 16262528
100% agree
This board is ruled by schizos now
It's not even a homework board anymore because only a retard would ask for advice on here
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Jul 2024 08:36:58 UTC No. 16262615
>>16261086
>Anon discovers the well has been poisoned
Weaponized schizos is the current big thing to water down and shut down any discourse