🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:00:29 UTC No. 16276674
Space travel causes global warming edition
previous >>16274623
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:04:33 UTC No. 16276677
>Eoin Higgins
Hm, let's take a closer look at 'ol Eoin here, lessee
>Matt Taibbi used to take on the rich and powerful, but today, his reporting is crafted to please grievance-addicted American conservatives. Glenn Greenwald, whose reporting on the Snowden leaks arguably changed the course of history, has similarly taken a hard right turn. Yet these political transformations of journalists formerly associated with the left did not happen in a vacuum. The new mouthpieces of the right are paid and disseminated by an emerging “alternative” media ecosystem, funded by a cohort of billionaires whose goal is to censor critics, so these new plutocrats can pursue their businesses—and personal vendettas—entirely unimpeded.
Oh. Oh noooo hahahahaha nononono
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:19:48 UTC No. 16276694
>>16276689
Delayed Indefinitely
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:22:43 UTC No. 16276697
>>16276689
Arrested. Executed.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:23:17 UTC No. 16276698
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:30:10 UTC No. 16276703
>>16276674
Solved problem: just use a space elevator. If only the material scientists could get their shit together.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:32:04 UTC No. 16276705
When are they going to land Starliner so they can cut it in half to find out what's going wrong?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:33:23 UTC No. 16276709
>>16276704
This is like a ceo hearing "You have the full support of the board" isn't it?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:34:14 UTC No. 16276711
>>16276698
> Starliner is designed for a mission of up to 210 days
Tick tock.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:34:42 UTC No. 16276712
>>16276689
Stranded in space
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:35:43 UTC No. 16276713
>>16276698
>problems preventing return
So it sounds like they are stranded.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:35:43 UTC No. 16276714
>>16276689
Standing by
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:36:04 UTC No. 16276715
>>16276677
Glenn takes particular offense at being called right-wing, insisting that it is the left who have lost the capacity for self-reflection. Greenwald actually left the Intercept over being used as a press outlet for the billionaire owner.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:38:19 UTC No. 16276716
>>16276713
Which means all those journalists who two weeks ago assured us they weren't stuck, are a bunch of stinky liars.
>>16276715
Clearly Eoin Higgins is not a reliable source of information or unbiased opinion.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:38:27 UTC No. 16276717
> Mark Nappi, vice-president and program manager of Boeing’s commercial crew program, told reporters that he was confident the Starliner program would emerge stronger because of the issues. “All this information is going to go in a big bucket, and all the engineers are going to review it and try to see if it doesn’t point to root cause...,” he said.
May we see this bucket?
"No."
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:38:50 UTC No. 16276720
>>16276711
I thought the max it was allowed to stay attached to the ISS was 40 something days
oldspace getting the oldspace treatment though
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:41:16 UTC No. 16276722
>>16276689
delayed ten times
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:44:50 UTC No. 16276723
>>16276720
Starliner batteries are rated for 45 days. Also they can't block that port forever, ISS needs supplies and crew rotation
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:47:21 UTC No. 16276725
>>16276704
More like reformations. Let’s move it to the grave.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:49:08 UTC No. 16276726
>>16276717
>All this information is going to go in a big bucket, and all the engineers are going to review it
The bucket in question
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:57:00 UTC No. 16276731
>>16276723
> The Boeing Starliner’s stay in orbit is limited by the crew module’s battery capacity. While the spacecraft is rated for 210 days, NASA stated there would be a 45-day limit, enough time for engineers on the ground to test fixes before re-entry.
Whoops!
So, we're off the right side of the graph again.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:02:22 UTC No. 16276733
>>16276726
Why are they like this?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:02:54 UTC No. 16276734
>>16276674
Now here's the kicker:
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:04:45 UTC No. 16276736
>>16276726
I'm glad I'm from a culture that has cutlery
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:15:47 UTC No. 16276741
>>16276733
It's their culture, please understand.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:31:08 UTC No. 16276753
>>16276750
>Starliner seems like its gonna limp back home
I see you are a hopeful optimist anon.
🗑️ Barkon Approved Post at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:33:35 UTC No. 16276754
>>16276753
Fag
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:35:35 UTC No. 16276757
>>16276748
>Stars and sun visible in the same shot
this is CGI
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:45:22 UTC No. 16276760
https://x.com/brkgkc16/status/18111
>Awesome and never seen footage of Saturn I SA-6 stage separation. It includes onboard cameras, tracking camera and kerosene tank camera.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:50:35 UTC No. 16276762
>>16276760
Those distance shots of the RL10s lighting are pure kino.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:52:37 UTC No. 16276763
>>16276689
We are checking.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:54:23 UTC No. 16276765
>>16276763
With next of kin?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:58:35 UTC No. 16276768
>>16276750
Which craft is this character representing
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 01:05:12 UTC No. 16276772
>>16276733
First worlders don’t get it but rice and slop beats going hungry.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 01:10:25 UTC No. 16276776
>>16276768
The one that represents a bratty memelord
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 01:13:04 UTC No. 16276778
>>16276674
global warming is fake tho
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 01:15:40 UTC No. 16276780
>>16276674
>Space travel causes global warming
I don't care
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 01:57:24 UTC No. 16276807
So boca chica was destroyed by hiricane
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:03:22 UTC No. 16276814
>>16276760
Absolutely insane. We owe so much to Von Braun, he sculpted masterpieces
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:07:00 UTC No. 16276815
>>16276814
thats insane
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:08:27 UTC No. 16276816
>无论多难,航天取星将始终与中国商业航天风雨同舟,荣辱与共,路还很长,
>No matter how difficult it is, Astronautics will always be in the same boat with China's commercial aerospace, sharing honor and disgrace. The road is still very long. Let's cheer together, brothers.
China may have just had it's second launch failure of the year with a i-Space Hyperbola-1 attempting a launch out of Jiuquan
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:12:38 UTC No. 16276819
>>16276816
Space IS hard
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:18:04 UTC No. 16276821
>>16276816
space is HARD
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:18:24 UTC No. 16276822
>>16276816
>北京时间 2024 年 7 月 11 日 7 时 41 分,双曲线一号遥八运载火箭搭载 3 颗云遥一号气象卫星在酒泉卫星发射中心点火升空,火箭飞行过程中出现异常,
>At 7:41 Beijing Time on July 11, 2024, the hyperbolic No. 1 remote Eight launch vehicle carrying three Yunyao No. 1 meteorological satellites ignited at the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center. Abnormalities occurred during the rocket flight, and the mission was not a complete success.
This is unusually quick and open for a Chinese launch failure report, especailly for a launch that was running almost completely silent before T-0.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:20:41 UTC No. 16276823
>>16276819
>>16276821
It's so hard it get you quoting poets when things go wrong
>"空间很难。"
>Space is Difficult
>天空没有留下超勝的痕迹,且我骄傲,我飞期过。---诗人 泰北尔
>There is no trace of super victory left in the sky, and I am proud that I have flown.---Poet Taibei Er
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:22:55 UTC No. 16276825
>>16276674
>disaster for emissions
I just did the math, and even with SpaceX's insane rate of like three a week, they're producing ~1/1000th the emissions of global air.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:25:04 UTC No. 16276828
>>16276825
You didnt do the math.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:27:46 UTC No. 16276829
>>16276823
Bro, you got that transcribed wrong
It's 泰戈尔, a transliteration of Tagore.
It's translation of the following:
"I leave no trace of wings in the air, but I am glad I have had my flight."
You got the Chinese in the poem wrong, too.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:29:16 UTC No. 16276830
>>16276828
I also didn't do the math but launching manufacturing 10 rockets and launching them a total of 140 times is better for the environment than manufacturing 20 rockets for 20 launches
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:31:30 UTC No. 16276831
>>16276829
You're assuming that I know anything about Chinese beyond copying OCRed text into a translator. The best I can do is remove extraneous line breaks so the robot doesn't break its brain trying to translate two thirds of a sentence.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:34:08 UTC No. 16276832
>>16276830
Was I arguing against SpaceX you fucking mongrel? Do you not realize how fucking ridiculous it is to say that 150 F9 launches is 1/1000 of ALL EMISSIONS GLOBALLY???
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:44:27 UTC No. 16276837
Wasn't shartliner supposed to leave already?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:46:13 UTC No. 16276839
>>16276814
That wasn't Von Braun, that was the engineers working under him.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:47:08 UTC No. 16276840
>>16276837
Yeah like 6 years ago
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:47:38 UTC No. 16276841
>>16276837
Starliner. Calling it "shartliner" just makes you look like a dumb kid.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:57:21 UTC No. 16276843
>>16276825
so what you're saying is that a tiny handful of people are producing a significant portion of all co2 emissions.
and you're not one of those people and you're shilling for them like a massive cuck
and you do it for free
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:57:22 UTC No. 16276844
>>16276841
To be fair the tax thieves in boing and the mic deserve a lot worse than just mean words.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 03:00:33 UTC No. 16276846
https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/statu
Booster 12 undergoing live testing now
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 03:01:39 UTC No. 16276849
>>16276763
regretti...
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 03:04:57 UTC No. 16276852
>>16276841
Shart in mart
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 03:40:20 UTC No. 16276867
Roggids
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 03:41:23 UTC No. 16276868
>>16276741
>/pol/'s whitest posters
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 03:48:20 UTC No. 16276872
>>16276841
Boeing isn't going to fuck you
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 03:53:10 UTC No. 16276873
>>16276867
gathering mars roggs :D
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 03:53:48 UTC No. 16276874
>>16276872
Taxwise they will
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 04:05:01 UTC No. 16276881
>>16276677
Eoin doesn't get paid for writing? And is completely blind to who owns the Washington Post, well, unless there's a "climate crisis" article to write about that billionaire owner's rockets. But the billionaire owning the primary newspaper for the nation's capital? Nah, not worth mentioning that guy's politics.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 04:09:28 UTC No. 16276884
>>16276712
>I've done far worse than kill you. I've hurt you, and I wish to go on hurting you. I shall leave you as you left me, as you left her: marooned for all eternity in the center of a dead planet, buried alive. Buried alive!
Marooned is a much more fun word for their situation.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 04:12:24 UTC No. 16276885
>>16276814
Too bad it was expendable.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 04:53:17 UTC No. 16276913
>>16276736
Best part no part
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 05:31:27 UTC No. 16276934
What do boobs look like in 0G? I'd imagine it would be a pleasant sight.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 05:47:27 UTC No. 16276938
>>16276704
>congress is considering subsidies for sls to encourage commercial customers to use it instead of commercial rockets
the corruption is mindnumbing
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 05:50:59 UTC No. 16276940
>chinese spaceflight is collapsing before our eyes
THIS. IS. WHY. YOU. TEST.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 06:08:07 UTC No. 16276947
>>16276723
rating expires =/= stops working
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 06:34:28 UTC No. 16276950
>>16276947
8 day mission =/= 36 day+ mission
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 06:38:40 UTC No. 16276953
>>16276816
They have their own Astra. Cute.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 07:03:26 UTC No. 16276960
>>16276947
It does mean that as far as the government bureaucrats calling all the shots care. Nobody at NASA is about to say "screw the rule book, let 'er rip & we'll see what happens"
or at least nobody except Linda Ham
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 07:35:59 UTC No. 16276985
>>16276841
No it's definitely shartliner
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 07:40:59 UTC No. 16276991
>>16276960
They did with the SLS boosters. Those things were "expired" for months at the time of launch and I don't remember seeing any recertification.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 07:55:14 UTC No. 16277002
>>16276841
I'm going go call it shartliner exclusively from now on, even changing quotes to reflect this
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 08:28:01 UTC No. 16277023
>>16277002
i called it poopyliner stinky gay retard
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 08:29:53 UTC No. 16277025
>>16276841
i call it snot boogerliner idiot poop butthead
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 08:38:41 UTC No. 16277032
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
>“This is a tough business that we’re in," Wilmore, Shartliner's commander, told reporters Wednesday in a news conference from the space station. "Human spaceflight is not easy in any regime, and there have been multiple issues with any spacecraft that’s ever been designed, and that’s the nature of what we do.”
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 08:39:58 UTC No. 16277033
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 08:45:30 UTC No. 16277038
https://payloadspace.com/habitable-
>Lee Feinberg, a NASA HWO lead and principal architect, told Payload he and his team are in communication with representatives from all three super heavy-lift launchers, having recently visited SpaceX to track Starship’s progress. “We are really rooting for big launchers. That is really, really important for us,” he said.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 09:31:47 UTC No. 16277068
>>16276703
No need for magic materials. Just like build ORS my dude.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 09:35:05 UTC No. 16277073
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18113
I think he has said this before previously, but if you have read the foundation books then Terminus (Mars) was actually a distraction that did work for a while, but the actual Foundation was built elsewhere
I wonder if Musk is doing something like that in secret now
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 09:56:38 UTC No. 16277085
>>16277073
Have you SEEN Joe Biden? Cleon's Galactic Empire was in a much better state than the West is now.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 10:01:41 UTC No. 16277089
>>16277073
>I wonder if Musk is doing something like that in secret now
He's not batman, dude.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 10:17:46 UTC No. 16277101
>>16277089
so I guess you haven't read the books
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 10:26:28 UTC No. 16277109
>>16277101
I read one of them, can't remember which.
I also watched one episode of the apple series and then cancelled my subscription.
I'm more of a Heinlein man myself.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 10:27:41 UTC No. 16277111
>>16276938
Theres no fucking way congress actually pays for it. You essentially have to pay the entire 4.2 billion $ launch cost of sls to even come close to starship for less payload.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 10:51:30 UTC No. 16277125
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSi
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 10:53:58 UTC No. 16277127
>>16277125
EVERYONE WATCH MY F*ING VIDEO
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 10:56:40 UTC No. 16277129
Most people don't realize that, but you actually can ignore those retarded skeptics and armchair specialists.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 10:59:44 UTC No. 16277132
>>16277032
>Wilmore, who took over manual control for part of Starliner's approach to the space station, said he could sense the spacecraft's handling qualities diminish as thrusters temporarily failed. "You could tell it was degraded, but still, it was impressive," he said.
Yeah it's very impressive this dog turd manages to melt it's thrusters in normal operation and this wasn't noticed till now.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 10:59:49 UTC No. 16277133
>>16277109
you know heinlein had a book about cannibalistic blacks keeping white slaves as chattle slaves and breeding them for food
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:03:46 UTC No. 16277136
>>16277111
Yeah it's just lip service, so over for the competition to SpaceX
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:05:53 UTC No. 16277139
>>16277132
>said he could sense the spacecraft's handling qualities diminish as thrusters temporarily failed
Holy fucking boeing, imagine feeling your spacecraft fucking slowly die beneath you. Can't imagine the size of the brick he must have laid when he got to the ISS toilet.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:07:21 UTC No. 16277141
>>16277129
>IGNORE THE TRUTH BECAUSE IT HURTS YOUR FEELINGS
AND PEOPLE SAY CHRISTIANITY IS A CULT. YOU NEW SPACERS ARE SOMETHING ELSE.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:09:58 UTC No. 16277145
>>16277139
The guy was controlling it from the ground, not on board.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:14:31 UTC No. 16277153
>>16277141
>ignore the truth
If it was something important, you would have written it instead of shilling the video.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:26:03 UTC No. 16277164
>>16277132
>The test sequence began July 3 with a series of firings mimicking what one of Starliner's thrusters experienced in orbit. But test engineers couldn't get the thruster on the ground as hot as the Starliner thrusters got in space, so officials have paused the tests this week to see if there's a way to better simulate the actual thermal conditions on the spacecraft. They hope to resume testing later this week and wrap it up over the weekend.
Lol they could replicate the problem, probably cause they're not testing in a vacuum. Did they even test this thing at all?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:30:44 UTC No. 16277171
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fad
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:33:35 UTC No. 16277173
>>16277164
>But my modelling!
Watch this devolve into some intern not accounting for vacuum in some 30yr old proprietary sim that Boeing runs
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:44:01 UTC No. 16277184
>>16277171
I'm going to watch this entire video and get mad
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:45:33 UTC No. 16277186
>>16277171
>last week we watched a video about the soviet space programme
a communist tranny, how original
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:47:06 UTC No. 16277188
>>16277186
even has the anime profile pic lmaoo
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:50:20 UTC No. 16277193
>>16277184
Give me a summary of his argument after you're done please.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:51:34 UTC No. 16277196
>>16276839
they definitely made shit that worked. big, heavy, solid and good looking engineering solutions. i never get tired watching their stuff launch and stage etc. All the Apollo hardware is the same way.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:53:45 UTC No. 16277200
>>16277186
>TAXES AREN'T PAYING FOR MY TRANSITION
>CAPITALISM HAS FAILED!
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:53:58 UTC No. 16277201
>>16277164
>they're not testing in a vacuum
seriously? that seems unusual as these things go
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:55:20 UTC No. 16277202
>>16277201
Standard practice for boeing.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:57:29 UTC No. 16277204
>>16277201
Vacuum is a kind of space, and space is hard. That's why they call it "hard vacuum"
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 12:03:51 UTC No. 16277213
>>16277200
Billions must starve.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 12:03:53 UTC No. 16277214
>>16277109
>I also watched one episode of the apple series
What a blunder, I'm so sorry. Never trust an adaptation. Ender's Game was an alright one, and Childhood's End. Most others suck though.
>>16277133
Now tell him about Lazarus Long.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 12:10:30 UTC No. 16277220
fucking hate anti-space communists
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 12:13:59 UTC No. 16277226
>>16277220
Go for a walk
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 12:15:53 UTC No. 16277227
>>16277226
go fuck yourself
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 12:16:08 UTC No. 16277228
>>16277226
I just took a walk and I fucking hate anti-space communists.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 12:34:21 UTC No. 16277240
>>16277226
so I can ponder how much I hate them and why?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 12:35:24 UTC No. 16277241
>>16277231
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pik
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 12:36:06 UTC No. 16277242
>>16277240
Because walking is good for your health.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 12:38:07 UTC No. 16277245
>>16277233
Because >>16276726
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 12:40:39 UTC No. 16277246
>>16277230
Georgist here.
Space is the only solution to the problems on earth.
The problem is land.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 12:48:36 UTC No. 16277248
>>16277202
i wonder how they come to this conclusion
>>16277204
vacuum is hard job
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 12:49:40 UTC No. 16277251
>>16277230
he barely has enough brain power to have an opinion on the merits of laces V velcro shoe bindings.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 12:56:11 UTC No. 16277255
>>16277242
its raining
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 12:56:22 UTC No. 16277256
>>16277248
>i wonder how they come to this conclusion
It's the douglas taint.
They only know how to succeed at office politics, not business. Thats how they keep failing but taking over whoever they merge with.
Sky_Hook-Chan . . . UR mom's a WHORE elon at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 13:06:11 UTC No. 16277262
>>16276674
If only someone had devised a 'Green Road to Space" .... OH WELL!
https://www.isec.org/green-road-to-
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 13:10:04 UTC No. 16277265
>>16277256
shame. amazing to think that you'd remove vacuum tests from a new space craft. i thought everyone had done that over the years. its not as if there aren't several very large vacuum chambers for both space craft and rocket testing in the US.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 13:10:42 UTC No. 16277266
>>16277111
congress will just put a tax on commercial space launches (read spacex)
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 13:11:52 UTC No. 16277267
>>16277231
>>16277241
about fucking time. how are tower 2's pilings going?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 13:12:35 UTC No. 16277269
>>16277164
There is a giant fucking vacuum chamber literally purpose built exactly and specifically for this. Did they just not want to rent it out for a week???
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 13:13:14 UTC No. 16277270
>>16276881
>>16276677
The guy is a Trump hater and a Biden cocksucker. What do you expect. Its a politic hitpiece rather than a neutral or a factual one.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 13:19:42 UTC No. 16277277
>>16277267
One of the newer RGV videos showed they'd just about finished them
>https://youtu.be/7Zs31D8D3mI?t=294
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 13:19:49 UTC No. 16277278
>>16277270
I figured as such by the tone of the article, that's why I looked up his name. That book was the first thing I found, where he's complaining that classic liberal journos are fleeing the left (which must be a right-wing trick!).
Instant dismissal of everything he has said, is saying, or ever will say.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 13:20:25 UTC No. 16277281
>>16277277
>flame trench
im getting a headache
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 13:29:24 UTC No. 16277286
>>16277278
Yep, the guy is entirely a partisan hack. All you needed to do was check this guy's twitter lol.
The classic liberal journals havent fled anywhere. They are still reporting on privacy issue, free speech, government accountability, etc. The corporate media arm simply latched on the government censorship, government ideology and are trying to gaslight you into thinking otherwise.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 13:29:28 UTC No. 16277287
>There is a small gap between foundation and first section.
It's over. Two more year to redesign second tower.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 13:29:33 UTC No. 16277288
>>16277193
Sorry anon I turned it on after getting to work but I can't handle that voice. I thought it was just a British girl but it turned out to be a man. If I'd known I wouldn't have made false promises. The video description mentions Kessler syndrome though so you can guess
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 13:42:26 UTC No. 16277295
>>16277171
>>16277186
>>16277188
this cannot be real
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 13:44:33 UTC No. 16277298
>>16277241
>commentary stream for putting concrete on top of concrete
what a bunch of money milking faggots
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 13:46:47 UTC No. 16277300
>>16276940
They tried that and the rocket flew of the test stand.
>>16277233
Who cares as long as it works?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 13:47:15 UTC No. 16277301
>>16277188
>>16277186
HOW ARE THEY SO PREDICTABLE?
Like you can spot a marxist just from their looks
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 13:51:07 UTC No. 16277304
>>16277301
I think the mind-poison affects their exterior in time.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:09:15 UTC No. 16277313
>>16277266
It would need to be a 200000% tax for SLS to compete with spacex.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:11:00 UTC No. 16277316
>>16277288
Just mute it and turn off auto captions.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:12:32 UTC No. 16277319
>>16277316
I'm at work man I listen to audiobooks all day but my eyes are busy
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:14:10 UTC No. 16277320
>>16277233
It’s a rocket for validating a capsule’s launch escape system. They frequently look goofy.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:20:39 UTC No. 16277324
>>16277322
https://x.com/ajtourville/status/18
just the cbs morning section without commentary
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:30:04 UTC No. 16277329
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:37:00 UTC No. 16277335
>>16277329
>we will see fuzzy images of real exoplanets before we die
Yes, please.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:39:33 UTC No. 16277337
Space is for crackkkers
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:40:20 UTC No. 16277338
>>16277335
Direct imaging is nice. Getting the planet down to a fuzzy blob means there's enough light to do direct spectroscopy of the planets without needing to do the tricky stuff involved in transit spectroscopy.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:46:54 UTC No. 16277343
>>16277337
Yes
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:47:41 UTC No. 16277344
What benefit does full flow staged combustion offer over an oxidizer or fuel rich staged combustion design?
At first glance it seems like more engineering work for something that by its nature has all the downsides of both fuel rich and oxidizer rich at the same time.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:48:59 UTC No. 16277349
>>16277344
The big one is the turbines run a lot cooler for a given outlet pressure.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:51:23 UTC No. 16277352
>>16277344
Performance. Higher isp and thrust.
Eager space made a video about it and you need every last drop of performance you can get to make full reusability work.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:03:12 UTC No. 16277364
>>16277329
>>16277338
If I were to guess, high fidelity visible light interferometry via quantum-networked ground telescopes will achieve the equivalent of this long before HWO ever launches
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:05:15 UTC No. 16277365
>>16277364
In english, doc
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:05:54 UTC No. 16277366
>>16277365
>Buzzword soup will beat them to the punch
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:10:30 UTC No. 16277372
>>16277365
https://arxiv.org/abs/2204.06044
>>16277366
Shut up faggot
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:11:35 UTC No. 16277373
>>16277372
>"Quantum [thing]"
>Chinese work
Like clockwork.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:12:35 UTC No. 16277375
>Saw part of the Ariane 6 launch, seemed to do well
>Find out it didn't go... perfectly well
Apparently the last stage wasn't able to start deorbiting as planned? What's the status now (or is it already burned up)?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:14:06 UTC No. 16277378
>>16277373
It's not a difficult concept to understand
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:16:06 UTC No. 16277384
>>16277375
it's stuck up there and the two reentry test payloads are SOL. the cope is that they have some orders which won't need vinci restarts so it's not a problem for those.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:16:41 UTC No. 16277385
>>16277378
No, it's not: Beijing wants to be the leading economy and economic power in the 21st Century, and they see breakthroughs in quantum physics as the path to doing so — to the point that they're not as interested in subsidizing work that doesn't have their favorite word in it. That leads to efforts like this one to cram in things that let them use the phrase "quantum technology" to an existing field that doesn't actually do anything different in the physics of the optics and imaging sensors.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:19:27 UTC No. 16277392
>>16277385
Retard. They're Australian and Singapore scientists and a colab between them
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:23:15 UTC No. 16277396
>>16277392
Macquerie University is a joint research university with University of Hamburg and Fudan University in Shanghai.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:25:07 UTC No. 16277400
>>16277385
You're the blackest retard gorilla nigger I have ever seen. Maybe read the paper, or does baby need the popsci article to understand? It's really basic, qubits in a network with improved error correction will allow for optical interferometry to actually work. https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2022/
https://youtu.be/eXchT7mtEao?t=1h4m
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:25:40 UTC No. 16277401
>>16277396
So you're saying Australian university is a fraud? LMAO
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:26:59 UTC No. 16277404
>>16277344
The most reusable engine due to lowest turbine temperature at given chamber pressure except for electric pumped which doesn't scale
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:28:33 UTC No. 16277406
>>16277401
No, I'm not saying it's a fraud, I'm saying that it's inevitably a Chinese backed effort because they're trying to emphasize the "quantum" on an interferometer. It's Electricity and Magnetism: quantum bullshit is literally the fundamentals of the field.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:29:56 UTC No. 16277408
>>16277400
>qubits in a network with improved error correction
that doesn't work by the way.
>inb4 he believes in quantum advantage
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:30:31 UTC No. 16277410
>>16277384
the good news: they can start launching the easy payloads and continue testing the new APU for long-duration missions after the payload is released. The next flight is now scheduled for December (CSO 3).
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:35:22 UTC No. 16277416
>>16277406
So you're saying the Australian university is run by incompetent people or people who are only after money and cant actually tell whats real and fake because of join research with Chinese university?
Woah. Thats fraud on massive level
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:38:24 UTC No. 16277417
>>16277404
spacex seems to mostly be taking advantage of this by jacking up the chamber pressure to even more ridiculous levels
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:39:32 UTC No. 16277418
reminder that quantum telescopes can receive images faster than light thanks to their use of entanglement
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:41:42 UTC No. 16277420
>>16277416
Remember that time they built those ridiculous cryogenic chandeliers and hyped it like crazy and then slowly tried to sweep it back under the rug once they realized there is no end-to-end supremacy observable?
There is no fraud, people are just that confused about quantum physics.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:43:25 UTC No. 16277421
>>16277420
So you're saying everyone has perfect understanding of quantum physics and we dont need any more research?
WOAH
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:43:54 UTC No. 16277422
>>16277420
>>16277421
Not spaceflight shut up
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:44:40 UTC No. 16277424
>>16277422
quantums fly around in space all the time
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:44:55 UTC No. 16277425
>>16277416
Other way around: China's willing to throw money at things that they think might give them something relating to their ambition of Quantum Supremacy, so researchers are incentivized to write it in as much as possible for the sake of grant money.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:45:11 UTC No. 16277426
>>16277416
>So you're saying the Australian university is run by incompetent people or people who are only after money
Welcome to real life instead of a romanticized view of higher education.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:45:33 UTC No. 16277427
>>16277408
Refer to my previous ad hominem
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:46:40 UTC No. 16277431
>>16277416
>>16277421
>so you're saying-
>x2
Disingenuous actor detected, cease all (you)s directed towards it at once.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:47:29 UTC No. 16277432
>>16277364
are there some projects about to do that?
what drives you to think ground based telescopes would do it first?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:51:06 UTC No. 16277435
>>16277431
>make accusations
>have no grass to touch
>claim victim
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:52:11 UTC No. 16277437
>>16277432
For starters HWO has an insanely unambitious timeline, launching in the 2040s at the earliest. Meaning at best it wont launch until the 2050/2060s, if ever. At least JWST timeline was ambitious, then was 10 years late (generous). Astronomers conservatism and fear of failure/budgets and incompetency of NASA's management and contractors will easily kill the project
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:54:08 UTC No. 16277439
>>16277437
On the other hand, "qubit networked" telescope arrays are not actually within the realm of real physics so it's anybody's guess which will happen sooner
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:58:41 UTC No. 16277445
>>16277400
>will allow for optical interferometry to actually work
do they not work now? i thought the VLA was such a thing.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 15:58:56 UTC No. 16277446
>>16277437
Hey, for all you know unambitious timeline means delivered on time. Could be good pr, even if it takes longer than james webb if they say it’s going to take a long time it’s not such a bad look.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 16:01:17 UTC No. 16277449
>>16277445
It does work. And you can make it better without impossible coherence thought experiments.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 16:01:50 UTC No. 16277450
>>16277446
>for all you know
We do know, thats the problem, nasa can't hit a deadline to save it's life.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 16:11:38 UTC No. 16277462
>>16277449
im still not sure why they couldn't use it to image the apollo landing sites.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 16:14:11 UTC No. 16277465
>>16277439
That's why I started my original post with "if I had to guess"
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 16:15:50 UTC No. 16277468
>>16277446
That's never ever how it happens. Especially with government-funded flagship projects. Double especially with decrepit old NASA + [insert your defence contractor]
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 16:46:36 UTC No. 16277491
>>16277421
>So you're saying everyone has perfect understanding of quantum physics and we dont need any more research?
Not that anon but I was raised by english speaking parents and my dog understands a little bit of english. That's a completely difference sentence
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 16:50:00 UTC No. 16277494
>>16277491
You lack reasoning capability.
>research project failed in their prediction therefore not science
>any unknown with chance of failure = not science/fraud
>therefore science can only be done with perfect knowledge
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 16:58:23 UTC No. 16277499
>>16277329
oh boy i cant wait until 2100 when we actually get something like this. oh fuck we'll all be dead by then.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 17:11:16 UTC No. 16277515
>>16277499
Maybe you will but I won’t.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 17:13:11 UTC No. 16277516
>>16277515
My plan is just to not die, I don't know why more people don't do it
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 17:16:04 UTC No. 16277519
>>16277171
One rule I have learned long time ago: when someone feel the need to repeat a link more times it means it's not worth it.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 17:24:05 UTC No. 16277528
>>16277527
perchance
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 17:25:45 UTC No. 16277532
>>16277527
The flap did, if you're on the side opposite to the heat shield then I don't see why not. You'd be hooked onto it with a carabiner right? I wouldn't want to be holding on the whole time.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 17:26:45 UTC No. 16277535
>>16277527
non zero
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 17:28:23 UTC No. 16277538
>>16277532
>The flap did
barely.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 17:29:28 UTC No. 16277542
>>16277532
>You'd be hooked onto it with a carabiner right? I wouldn't want to be holding on the whole time.
How about standing on it?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 17:39:05 UTC No. 16277558
>>16276867
Roggoids
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 17:40:02 UTC No. 16277559
>>16276867
Hybergoliggs :DDD
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 17:41:29 UTC No. 16277561
>>16276867
proonted roggid egngingnes :DDDD
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 17:45:15 UTC No. 16277569
I just shitted the fuck out of my pants
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 17:46:32 UTC No. 16277573
https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/statu
So it was a failure. Failed to relight the engine, failed to deploy sats, failed to deorbit burn
Failure all around
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 17:46:56 UTC No. 16277574
>>16277569
send a pic
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 17:50:34 UTC No. 16277579
>>16277572
It is possible though, although it only begs the question of what to do with all the CO2 now covering the surface.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 17:50:38 UTC No. 16277580
>>16277572
world’s largest sailboat platting a course directly for venus’s surface.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 17:50:49 UTC No. 16277581
>>16277572
Thats prob roughly 80 square km. Fucking huge
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 17:53:49 UTC No. 16277583
>>16277324
The further they push it back, the more convinced I am it will kill them.
Jesus, boing.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 17:59:26 UTC No. 16277588
>>16277186
>>16277188
well there's your problem
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 17:59:49 UTC No. 16277589
>>16276689
Marooned
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:01:26 UTC No. 16277591
>>16277590
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18114
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:02:56 UTC No. 16277596
>>16277590
>bioengineering humans
there's no way he's said this
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:02:58 UTC No. 16277597
>>16277591
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/11/
https://archive.is/HeUcA
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:04:03 UTC No. 16277598
>>16277597
the screenshots posted by hanaia (the article itself is perhaps 2x longer)
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:05:03 UTC No. 16277599
>>16277597
Another day, another hitpieces from marxist tranny times
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:05:04 UTC No. 16277600
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:06:31 UTC No. 16277604
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:07:26 UTC No. 16277606
>>16277599
>Reporting from San Francisco
LMAO
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:07:37 UTC No. 16277607
>>16277572
How far from Venus is V-S L1, how many cubic kilometers would that sunshade have to be?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:09:37 UTC No. 16277612
>>16277591
Wasn't there something about SpaceX having a Mars meeting each week where they talk about Mars related issues. I guess that wouldn't count as directed to work on it.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:12:03 UTC No. 16277614
>>16277230
is he really anti-space?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:13:50 UTC No. 16277616
>>16277612
I mean a mars club as an extra-curricular activity would make sense but talking about stuff is a far cry from actually using engineering resources and resources in general for it
I do remember Mueller saying somewhere that the last 5 years he was at SpaceX he was looking at ISRU stuff for mars, which would be somewhere between 2015-2020
Musk also tends to weasel around with technicalities, here he specifically said "no one has been directed to work on a Mars city"
what about other aspects related to Mars? ISRU for propellant isn't directly related to a Mars city perhaps but I would say its very much related to Mars colonization efforts
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:14:15 UTC No. 16277619
>>16277614
He's a commie shit and needs to be necked
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:17:42 UTC No. 16277623
>>16277616
Propellant ISRU and wet-workshopping Starships as habs gets you at least a basic town in a single synod with enough launches.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:23:05 UTC No. 16277630
>>16277597
I know this article in nonsense cause it says spacexs plans for a mars city is a giant dome.
Anyone who has bothered to look at the concept knows domes bigger than like 200 feet across won't work.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:30:29 UTC No. 16277633
>>16277630
>Anyone who has bothered to look at the concept knows domes bigger than like 200 feet across won't work.
Elaborate on this point. We build domes bigger than that on earth all the time and big domes should be easier on mars.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:38:19 UTC No. 16277640
>>16277416
remember: it's not a crime if you're defrauding your enemies
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:38:28 UTC No. 16277641
>>16276677
>>16276715
>>16276881
>>16277270
why are wingnuts like this
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:45:23 UTC No. 16277653
>>16277597
>domes
Kino! Musk has good taste in mars aesthetics.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:45:57 UTC No. 16277656
>>16277633
nta that anon, but domes on earth don't have to hold in the atmosphere.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:47:58 UTC No. 16277658
>>16277656
That makes them easier thoughbeit, the internal pressure offers support.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:48:51 UTC No. 16277659
>>16277653
Domes (solar panels)
Tunnels (boring company)
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:50:15 UTC No. 16277661
>>16277579
>It is possible though
Wouldn't this immediately self destruct resulting in Kessler syndrome? All of those millimeter thick plates acting as sunshade would quickly break apart and smash into each other, I imagine.
>>16277581
Those plates aren't to scale and neither are they hexagonal, Venus is to 1 to 1 billion scale but the rest I just tried to quickly whip up as a demonstration.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:50:21 UTC No. 16277662
>>16277658
It doesn't work like that anon.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:51:32 UTC No. 16277663
>>16277633
You just wouldn't build a dome. There are way cheaper and easier ways to get pressurized dirt
Barkon Approved Post at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:53:08 UTC No. 16277665
>>16277663
How smart are you?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:54:50 UTC No. 16277667
>>16277661
>Wouldn't this immediately self destruct resulting in Kessler syndrome?
That specific arrangement yes but you can have stable orbital shades around a planet.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:56:17 UTC No. 16277669
>>16277663
>pops hole in your gay little baloon
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:58:10 UTC No. 16277672
>>16277658
what would it be run at? 4-5psi like in space or would they want a full atmosphere?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:58:52 UTC No. 16277673
>>16277607
>How far from Venus is V-S L1
According to people on the internet, around 1,011,090 km or −0.00676 AU from Venus. So, a sunshade orbiting at the Venus-Sun Lagrange Point 1 would need to have a volume of approximately 4.6 x 10^3 km3 to effectively cover the surface of Venus, assuming the sunshade has a thickness of 10micrometers (0.01mm or 0.001cm). A4 paper is between 0.05mm and 0.10mm usually.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:59:03 UTC No. 16277674
>>16277662
Nu-uh
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 18:59:06 UTC No. 16277675
>>16277663
I'll throw darts at it from the top of my glass dome habitat.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 19:01:19 UTC No. 16277678
>>16277542
the classic
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 19:05:51 UTC No. 16277684
>>16277675
okay, what now
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 19:08:08 UTC No. 16277686
>>16277675
>>16277669
ETFE doesn't rip like that. Plus it doesn't matter anyway because the rate of air leaving the bubble matters less as the volume increases. I did the math once and it's like 50 acres per Starship payload with this method. 70 acres if you anchor it to habitable and cargo Starships instead of cables. That's 50 acres of pressurized dirt from one ship. Try doing that with a dome
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 19:08:10 UTC No. 16277687
>>16277672
.5 bar with 40% O and 60% N, /sfg/ already decided this
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 19:09:16 UTC No. 16277690
>>16277687
>40% O
Realistically what would happen if your dome forest caught fire
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 19:10:30 UTC No. 16277693
>>16277690
The atmosphere would gain some co2
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 19:10:47 UTC No. 16277695
>>16277690
who do brainlets always say this? 40% O is fine at 500mb
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 19:11:39 UTC No. 16277697
>>16277690
We would put it out with a hose. Same as on urf dumbass.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 19:12:34 UTC No. 16277699
>>16277574
Huh? No man
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 19:21:09 UTC No. 16277715
>>16277619
>muh commie!!!
Nobody spazzes out about them this much here. Back to >>>/pol/ you go, shouldve just sais tranny instead.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 19:28:35 UTC No. 16277728
>>16277715
nobody brings them up, fuck off commie
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 19:28:58 UTC No. 16277730
>>16277715
Kill yourself commie rat
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 19:30:07 UTC No. 16277731
>>16277715
Hm
>>16277186
>>16277188
>>16277200
>>16277220
>>16277228
>>16277295
>>16277301
>>16277304
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 19:30:14 UTC No. 16277732
>>16277715
go back to your shithole website, leftypol troon
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 19:31:09 UTC No. 16277733
>>16277686
https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 19:34:22 UTC No. 16277737
>>16277715
>posts some commie nigger from trannyland
>complain when people dont want freaks
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 19:50:55 UTC No. 16277765
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGz
Aerojet's got competition
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 20:09:37 UTC No. 16277790
>>16277765
are Ursa Major actually doing something? what do they have
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 20:12:22 UTC No. 16277793
>>16277790
They're building liquid propellant engines for other peoples' projects. They're also general purpose propulsion for the military. It looks like they're moving in on Northrop's solid fuel monopoly.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 20:13:23 UTC No. 16277794
>>16277793
I am aware, I was asking about specific projects and not just "yeah we're gonna be the engine guys"
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 20:42:22 UTC No. 16277833
>>16277794
Yeah they're colonizing Jupiter. What the hell are you talking about, they're the engine guys
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 20:44:49 UTC No. 16277838
>>16277633
Lifting force scales with area, while anchoring force scales with circumference. You max out at like 150 feet without doing some sort of crazy foundation work
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 20:49:30 UTC No. 16277847
>>16277765
well that was 95% of nothing.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 20:52:36 UTC No. 16277852
>>16277733
>The Earth’s south pole in the middle of winter is closer to a beach in Hawaii than the nicest place on Mars on the nicest day of the year.
lol, lmao
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 21:03:21 UTC No. 16277859
>>16277838
You seem to be suggesting it will float off like a balloon. I don’t see that happening in the currently very thin martian atmosphere.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 21:18:54 UTC No. 16277876
>>16277715
kys commie faggot you deserve to die 20x as hard as any of the touhou niggers and that's saying something
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 21:21:21 UTC No. 16277877
>>16277715
>and so the commie exposes itself
typical
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 21:24:13 UTC No. 16277879
>>16277687
>/sfg/ already decided this
Fag response
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 21:31:20 UTC No. 16277883
Has the us military considered using the superheavy as a minuteman replacement
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 21:32:42 UTC No. 16277885
>>16277715
I assume even commies hate hasan
It would make sense
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 21:32:59 UTC No. 16277886
>>16277883
No because it takes longer than a minute to get the rockets ready.
Minutemans can stay in storage for decades I think
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 21:34:39 UTC No. 16277888
>>16277833
I wanted to know about their engines
they built the engine on that Talon hypersonic thing or whatever that flew under Rok, huh?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 21:35:40 UTC No. 16277890
>>16277876
seethe, and death to all communists
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 21:43:25 UTC No. 16277897
>>16277765
>>16277793
The video is promo trash but the website has more info
>Draper - H2O2/RP1 - Closed catalyst cycle
>Hadley - Lox/RP1 - O2 rich staged combustion
>Ripley - Lox/RP1 - O2 rich stage combustion - "highest preforming kerosene engine ever built in the US
>Arroway - Lox/CH4 - Staged - "future of American engines for heavy lift/RD-180 replacement"
The only one worth a damn is Hadley just as a tech first, no one is going to buy Ripleys' when the Falcon-9 exists and Arroway is a paper engine that isn't currently needed when ULA has all of the RD-180's needed for Atlas V and is contracted with BO for Vulcan Centaur. Not to mention that it's 70klbs short of thrust at sea level.
The whole company seems to be hedging its bets on getting some military contracts but wants the glamour of new space to attract VC funding.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 21:48:37 UTC No. 16277904
>>16277897
sorry meant 350k lbs of thrust short compared to a BE-4
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 21:57:47 UTC No. 16277910
>>16277900
so clean its basically invisible
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:03:22 UTC No. 16277913
>>16277859
Not lifting like a balloon, lifting like the pressure pulling against the foundation. Because the inside is pressurized your main problem is the opposite of earth
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:09:02 UTC No. 16277918
>>16277171
i actually put myself through the pain of listening to this and they basically complained that falcon 1 wasnt designed with shuttle heritage and that falcon 1 was too expensive and then he said falcon 9 only launched 5 times then he said falcon 9 rockets cost 70 million and that blue origin has already landed rockets. he also said elon musk said they'd land on mars by 2012 and since he hasn't landed anything on mars by 2024 so he's a fraud basically.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:10:53 UTC No. 16277921
>>16277918
falcon 9 only launched 5 times? lol, lmao even
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:11:31 UTC No. 16277922
>>16277230
people really believe this too, very disturbing.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:20:54 UTC No. 16277927
>Microsoft leads $40 million funding for Starlink networking startup
>TAMPA, Fla. — Armada has raised an extra $40 million through a Microsoft-led funding round to develop mobile data centers tailored for SpaceX’s Starlink broadband network, the San Francisco-based startup announced July 11.
>The venture, which said it has received around $100 million from investors after emerging from stealth six months ago, is first focusing on deploying artificial intelligence computing tools designed to empower remotely connected devices.
>Microsoft is offering these software tools on its Azure cloud computing marketplace following the investment by its venture capital arm M12. The software includes Armada’s digital platform for managing Starlink terminals and other connected assets such as sensors and drones.
>Ultimately, Armada aims to offer ruggedized data centers the size of shipping containers for its cloud computing ecosystem called Galleons, which would enable customers to process data faster and more efficiently on-site — known as edge computing.
>Armada said Galleons would be integrated with satellites in low Earth orbit thanks to a deep collaboration with Starlink, but did not provide details. SpaceX has not responded to requests to comment on the startup.
https://spacenews.com/microsoft-lea
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:22:37 UTC No. 16277929
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:22:48 UTC No. 16277930
>>16277927
>Satellite-connected Galleons would enable off-the-grid customers to process data in real-time, according to Armada, and use generative artificial intelligence services typically confined to areas with terrestrial connectivity.
What kind of off-grid customer needs data centers?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:23:56 UTC No. 16277932
>>16277927
entire new businesses being built on top off starlink
starship can't become operational soon enough
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:24:20 UTC No. 16277933
>>16277929
It turns out building high performance rocket engines was actually kind of easy!
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:31:19 UTC No. 16277936
>>16276816
>>16276822
I guess the Hyperbola-1 is destined to merely be a Parabola.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:33:23 UTC No. 16277937
>>16276677
Ah yes their reporting was "taking on the rich and powerful " or "arguably changed the course of history" when they went after the powerful right but now that they are doing the same thing to the powerful left its "crafted to please grievance stricken American conservatives" and "taken a hard right turn". Fucking bullshit, they haven't changed, leftists just can't handle that the elite on their side are power grabbing, corrupt snakes. They aren't the purist bastions of freedom and champions of the cause that the leftists believe them to be.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:42:21 UTC No. 16277941
Ariane 6 is a complete success compared to Starship
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:43:45 UTC No. 16277944
>>16277936
The most disappointing kind of launch failure: ones that happen off-camera.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:44:41 UTC No. 16277945
>>16277944
China can only afford cameras on their most powerful rockets, prease undastandu
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:46:44 UTC No. 16277948
>>16277573
lmao
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:49:53 UTC No. 16277949
So Starliner is stuck at ISS?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:50:41 UTC No. 16277951
>>16277949
It's been stinkin up the ol station for about a month now
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:53:32 UTC No. 16277955
>>16277572
I can kinda see why people of old thought Venus a steamy Jungle world when seeing it as the cloudy white marble that it is.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:56:09 UTC No. 16277958
>>16277936
After this iSpace is sitting on a 3/6 flight record for Hyperbola-1. I know Chinese LSPs seem a bit more resistant to death than their western counterparts but if they survive this China must be really hard up for any possible launch capacity.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:08:44 UTC No. 16277969
>>16277930
I cant think of a single one. Seems kind of fucking stupid when they could just have a low latency starlink connection to a real data centre. VC so insanely easy to scam.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:12:47 UTC No. 16277973
Now that SpaceX is on good financial footing, it would make sense for at least some individuals or small teams convene to game out colonization in broad brush strokes. Not everyone there has to be working on Raptor engine optimization all the time.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:17:37 UTC No. 16277976
>>16277898
joepie de poepie
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:19:19 UTC No. 16277977
>>16277973
Until raptor and starship are fully operational, all company resources are to be devoted mainly towards Starship. Musk even pulled people from Starlink once it was going fully operation and put them into Starship program.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:19:21 UTC No. 16277978
>>16277931
Just soi'd over the portal 2 aesthetic it's over fur mich
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:19:36 UTC No. 16277980
>>16277931
They're hammering these droneships with this cadence
No time to fix the rust so another rocket is gonna blow off more rust combined with saltwater = rusty
They're gonna have to take these out of commission for a bit to replace the decks sooner or later
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:21:12 UTC No. 16277981
>>16277977
not a crumb for beetle protection
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:21:44 UTC No. 16277982
>>16277973
STEP ONE FIRST
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:37:58 UTC No. 16277994
>>16277988
Stupid frogposter
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:43:14 UTC No. 16278001
what the fuck happened to /sfg/? half the posts ITT are about politics and dumb shit and schizoid retardation. can't you faggots stick to the technical stuff?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:44:57 UTC No. 16278006
>>16277994
frog website
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:45:39 UTC No. 16278008
>>16278001
are you upset?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:46:11 UTC No. 16278009
>>16278001
Schizoid anime pedos ruined it.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:47:00 UTC No. 16278012
>>16278001
It's been months since the last starship launch.
SFG is in recline.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:47:09 UTC No. 16278013
>>16278001
You can look at the spikes in /sci/ posting every IFT. I'm pretty sure everyone is just new
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:47:55 UTC No. 16278014
>>16278011
whoops wrong one
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:48:22 UTC No. 16278015
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:52:54 UTC No. 16278018
>>16278001
Anime spamming pedos chased out the old guard and they don't know enough about space to keep up discussion.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:54:38 UTC No. 16278022
>>16278014
Is Europe finally understanding the value of kino military footage?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:54:39 UTC No. 16278024
>>16277973
>game out colonization in broad brush strokes
happening. just no hardware being built cause that would be stupid.
tom mueller for some reason didn't want to be on raptor so he worked on mars propellant production his last years.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:56:11 UTC No. 16278025
>>16278024
Yeah, its been happening for years. Old SpaceX engineers constantly talk about mars projects at SpaceX.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:56:13 UTC No. 16278026
>>16278009
>>16278018
anime website, newfag
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:57:08 UTC No. 16278029
>>16278026
4chan is an anime site like amazon is a book site.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:58:17 UTC No. 16278030
>>16278026
Nope, there is a reason they made quarantine boards for you pedos.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 23:58:19 UTC No. 16278031
>>16278024
>>16278025
well even Musk gave a pretty broad strokes idea about what they need to do at Mars
choosing landing locations based on a bunch of criteria, asking other companies to start doing things and gave a long list of necessary projects that need to be done
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:00:29 UTC No. 16278033
>>16278024
I'd assume Tom realized after Merlin that work of an engine is far less long term legacy than Mars infastructure. To have a lasting impact you can't be part of something that may be obsolete in a decade.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:01:41 UTC No. 16278035
>>16278018
>chased out the old guard
I can recognize the way you type.
You're the one who had a huge faggot meltdown shitting yourself in the thread
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:02:13 UTC No. 16278036
>>16278030
the pedo quarantine boards were here before you came along, newfag
you'd know this if you weren't new cancer
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:02:23 UTC No. 16278037
noo you can't insult communists, /sfg/ is dead
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:02:57 UTC No. 16278038
>>16278031
I guarantee you landing locations are already picked out and that the base level projects are already picked out and have had projects on them.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:03:27 UTC No. 16278039
>>16278012
looks like it ;_;
>>16278013
maybe but as the other anon said there haven't been any launches...
>>16278015
not really, I can't. doesn't matter, though, I like learning from what other people say.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:04:05 UTC No. 16278040
>>16278037
Yeah that guy has gets suspiciously triggered when you say "commies".
It's happened before
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:04:46 UTC No. 16278041
>>16278035
Ah yes here is the mysterious boogeyman you will try to pin this on.
>>16278036
So you know where they are? Good go back to them then.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:06:02 UTC No. 16278043
Oh great here comes the anime reddit faggot to shit up the general because someone called him out
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:07:09 UTC No. 16278044
>>16277973
BE REALLY NICE
IF LITERALLY ANY OTHER CUNTS
COULD PULL THEIR WEIGHT ON THIS WHOLE
GOT TO GET THE FUCK OFF THIS SHITHOLE PLANET
BUSINESS
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:10:57 UTC No. 16278046
>>16278044
Tim Ellis and Stefan Brieschenk are the only space executives I've heard say they want life to be multiplanetary.
I think a lot of em just want to dick around in earth orbit like a bunch of fags or the company is public so their highest ambition by law is providing maximum value to shareholders.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:12:02 UTC No. 16278047
>>16277930
Military. Networked battlefields have been in the pipeline for well over 30 years now. Oil and gas occasionally run discovery ops that need massive data crunching in almost realtime.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:15:52 UTC No. 16278051
>>16278047
>Networked battlefields
The battlefield of the future is going to be absolutely fucked for the average grunt.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:21:30 UTC No. 16278055
>>16278051
its going to be drones vs drones
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:23:36 UTC No. 16278056
>>16278051
The battlefield already is networked.
It's kind of a meme by the way.
All you need is munition that reliably hits its target using onboard compute.
Imagine a drone the cost of a bullet that hits a solider's head 90% of the time.
No need for VC scam datacenter in a box.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:25:41 UTC No. 16278058
anyway
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:26:09 UTC No. 16278059
>>16278051
Its the never ending cycle of better offense begets better defense which begets better offense.
Grunts always pay the price but they're still around, and they will be for another thousand years.
I bet $50 that we'll see squads of soldiers walking around with their own dedicated cloud of mini-drones before the close of the century.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:30:34 UTC No. 16278062
>>16278001
It's terrible. We've had people in here genuinely talking about asteroid mining
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:30:42 UTC No. 16278063
>>16278059
lol
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:32:55 UTC No. 16278064
>>16278035
Nothing like just making schizo shit up
Go back to whatever subhuman trash containment general you came out of over on >>>/vg/
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:55:51 UTC No. 16278079
>>16277988
stick it up your asshole pig
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:57:09 UTC No. 16278081
>>16278001
Consider eat my shit dumbass whiner
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 01:12:04 UTC No. 16278088
https://x.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1
>What would happen if Booster 12 does a Tianglong3 in the event of a clamp failure.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 01:13:15 UTC No. 16278091
>>16278081
consider learn english, faggot
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 01:24:30 UTC No. 16278097
>>16277996
Shuttle-Skylab would have been cool, although von Braun didn’t give a shit by then. Even if it saved the station.
I wish we had gotten Shuttle and Buran at Mir at the same time instead, that would have been cool.
Here’s a photo of some goofball at NASA spelling Endeavour wrong because I found it funny and needed an excuse to post it
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 01:30:35 UTC No. 16278100
>>16278091
i'm already Tracer
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 01:32:00 UTC No. 16278102
>>16278100
Back to >>>/reddit/
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 01:50:05 UTC No. 16278115
>>16278079
fuck you
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 01:56:21 UTC No. 16278117
they knew beforehand whether they were maxing out shuttle's payload capacity on any given flight. they should have painted the tank white on any flights where they had the mass budget.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:01:01 UTC No. 16278122
>>16277927
Defense, Oil, and Gas
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:01:36 UTC No. 16278123
>>16278115
Hostile response
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:02:24 UTC No. 16278125
>>16277980
I've been saying it for years
They need another two barges
They didn't expand their barge fleet because Starship was supposed to be regularly flying by now but yeah that didn't happen.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:04:53 UTC No. 16278127
in case you missed it
https://www.youtube.com/live/PikCV0
https://www.youtube.com/live/PikCV0
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:07:09 UTC No. 16278129
https://youtu.be/DVh4cpCNz5c
jellyfish launch time again
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:11:23 UTC No. 16278130
>>16277572
>>16277673
>>16277607
what is the sunshade supposed to be made of? what's its reflectance and how hot does it get with one side in direct sunshine all the time?
if it's just a thin film wouldn't it melt?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:21:35 UTC No. 16278132
>>16278130
to answer my own question, the JWST sunshade is always in sunlight and does fine
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:29:24 UTC No. 16278134
>>16277532
Magnetic boots.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:30:44 UTC No. 16278135
>>16278129
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1gqGvNkw
Twitter stream's live
Oh God that's a lot of fog
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:33:35 UTC No. 16278136
>>16278129
Will there be a fish?It's still light out there. I don't think the sun even set
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:38:41 UTC No. 16278139
>debris on the camera
uhhh bros?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:40:20 UTC No. 16278142
that's a big leak
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:40:50 UTC No. 16278144
early christmas
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:41:10 UTC No. 16278145
>>16278139
and way more space rats than normal. I'm worried. This is a bad, bad week for upper stages.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:41:31 UTC No. 16278148
>>16278129
not even close to dark enough
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:43:19 UTC No. 16278149
>>16278145
Probably just extra frozen condensation from the atmosphere at SLC-4E being so damn moist
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:43:56 UTC No. 16278150
>>16278149
are you watching it my dude? it's spewing shit everywhere
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:48:02 UTC No. 16278156
why dont the jeets and chinks blow up? theyre making all this new stuff and its going perfectly. wtf
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:48:52 UTC No. 16278157
>>16278156
The last rocket China launched failed and India barely ever launches anything
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:49:37 UTC No. 16278159
>>16278152
shame, I wanted to see what would happen to all that ice on engine shutdown
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:50:21 UTC No. 16278160
>>16278157
did people blow up? and i saw a goofy looking india rocket launch on the news
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:53:39 UTC No. 16278161
so besides the whole village that got killed when the rocket fell on them, the chinese have never killed an astronaut
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:54:28 UTC No. 16278162
theyre uhhh... not going to confirm nominal orbital insertion, are they?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:54:38 UTC No. 16278163
>>16278160
Something in the fourth stage fucked up. And that Indian launch had to have been archival. ISRO hasn't launched anything since February.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 02:57:14 UTC No. 16278165
>>16278008
dumb frogposter
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 03:04:27 UTC No. 16278168
>>16278152
>>16278162
Ever since they moved to unhosted webcasts for starlink they always cut away right after the "mvac shutdown" call.
The velocity on the previous flight with this inclination and altitude from vandenberg was 27338. It settled at 27336 this time, give or take because they fudge the telemetry a little.
It looks good. Not that we know what happens with SES-2 and beyond.
>inb4 2km/h short it's so over
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 03:17:15 UTC No. 16278173
>Houston we are venting something into space
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 03:24:23 UTC No. 16278176
>>16278040
I wonder if he's a Chicom or stuck worshipping the soviet union
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 03:30:06 UTC No. 16278180
>>16278175
PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP REACH ORBIT REACH ORBIT REACH ORBIT REACH ORBIT
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 03:30:12 UTC No. 16278181
>>16278175
nice
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 03:31:13 UTC No. 16278182
>>16278180
do not do this
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 03:35:05 UTC No. 16278185
>>16278182
sex with roggets
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 03:35:06 UTC No. 16278186
>>16278180
just got done doin dis
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 03:53:48 UTC No. 16278197
>>16277900
proont man marches on
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 04:11:07 UTC No. 16278206
>>16278175
sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sekss!
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 04:27:45 UTC No. 16278213
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 04:35:42 UTC No. 16278217
>no Starlink deployment tweet
>no Starlink deployment tweet
>no Starlink deployment tweet
>no Starlink deployment tweet
>no Starlink deployment tweet
>no StarIink deployment tweet
SES-2 failure, so its just 2nd stage with a bunch of Starlinks attached waiting to reenter now
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 04:42:03 UTC No. 16278219
>>16278175
sexo
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 04:43:48 UTC No. 16278221
>Upper stage restart to raise perigee resulted in an engine RUD for reasons currently unknown. Team is reviewing data tonight to understand root cause.
Starlink satellites were deployed, but the perigee may be too low for them to raise orbit. Will know more in a few hours.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 04:47:55 UTC No. 16278226
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18116
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 04:53:02 UTC No. 16278230
>>16278226
Damn, how long has it been since a Falcon 9 failed?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 04:53:51 UTC No. 16278231
>>16278230
a bazillion years
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 04:55:20 UTC No. 16278232
>>16278226
Polaris Dawn is effectively cancelled
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 04:56:03 UTC No. 16278233
>>16278221
>>16278226
It's over for spacex. They've been exposed for the frauds they are and now the adults like ULA can get to work.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 04:57:14 UTC No. 16278235
>>16278230
amos-6 was 2016
previous engine out was 2021 (on first stage)
it's the first time mvac fails
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:02:43 UTC No. 16278238
>Awww, did Elon fuck up again?
>I warned you he would do this.
>There is going to be Starlink debris raining down on orphans and nuns everywhere!
>Musk really should be locked up for the good of humanity
>Don't forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell icon.
>Your donations to my Patreon make possible this channel holding Elon Musk accountable for his crimes.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:03:05 UTC No. 16278239
>>16278226
That looks like a pretty gnarly LOX leak.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:05:55 UTC No. 16278243
You just know the Merlin/S2 integration teams are sweating at the prospect of being under Elon's scrutiny for the first time in years
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:14:31 UTC No. 16278250
>>16278029
That's a good one, Anon. I'll remember this.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:17:22 UTC No. 16278251
>>16278226
Attach a screenshot, you fucking mongoloid.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:22:14 UTC No. 16278256
Aluminium foil nozzel for peak payload capacity
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:25:39 UTC No. 16278258
>>16278238
tongue my anus faggotfoot
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:30:46 UTC No. 16278268
>>16278001
Oh yeah, now is a good time to bring it up for IFT5
The first rule of flight club is you do not talk about flight club
The second rule of flight club is you do not talk about flight club
last IFT someone linked a /pol/ post about the N1 or something and some guy came here and shit up the general for several threads. Other boards always talk about the launch, elon, thunderfoot, or something. That is the worst time to divulge the existence of /sfg/. And probably just better to avoid mentioning /sfg/ in elon salt threads 365 days of the year.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:39:17 UTC No. 16278279
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1811635
it's ogre
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:43:14 UTC No. 16278284
>>16278279
spacex is finished
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:55:04 UTC No. 16278299
>wake up in the middle of the night to shit
>falcon 9 failed
What the fuck
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:56:39 UTC No. 16278302
>>16278299
>wake up to shit
You should seek treatment for that bowel cancer, anon... You dont want to die before humans get to Mars, right?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:56:57 UTC No. 16278303
Thrilling Starlink rescue mission happening right now
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:57:09 UTC No. 16278304
>>16278279
Musk has whipped the launch rate too high and the cracks are starting to show. It's over.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 05:59:38 UTC No. 16278305
Anyone got an extra $3 million sitting around? If so, we can put 500 kg into sun-synchronous orbit. It's booked up through early 2026 but I figure that's enough time for the design and testing of our 500 kg payload, whatever it might be.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:00:51 UTC No. 16278307
>>16278302
I am genuinely planning on spending a reasonable percentage of my retirement savings on a moon vacation in 2070
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:03:14 UTC No. 16278310
>>16278299
No, it would be 100% "success" according to ULA.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:08:52 UTC No. 16278319
>>16278310
It deployed the primary payload?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:09:42 UTC No. 16278320
now that f9 is going to be spending months under FAA inspection and wont be able to launch to the ISS...what happens to the starliner astronauts?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:11:02 UTC No. 16278322
>>16278175
Space dog!
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:13:26 UTC No. 16278324
>>16278175
>>16278322
oh damn she has her own tag now
https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pag
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:13:32 UTC No. 16278325
>>16278318
just surround them in thicker lead wtf this is easy
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:15:00 UTC No. 16278327
>>16278325
they don't have the mass budget to do that. mass autism coming back to bite these stupid niggers in a big way
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:15:44 UTC No. 16278331
NYT front page story tomorrow: The birds strike back! Elon Musk's rocket EXPLODES after company destroys bird nests.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:17:49 UTC No. 16278336
>>16278334
is the boob cage radiation proof
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:19:32 UTC No. 16278338
>>16278336
yes the fat milk tanks absorbs radiation
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:20:34 UTC No. 16278339
>>16278338
flight-certified booba
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:23:23 UTC No. 16278341
>>16277329
>sleazy soiyence faggots making grandiose promises that will never be delivered on
common trick
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:25:32 UTC No. 16278343
>>16278320
All that FAA bullshit will magically disappear in an instant if the alternative is to ask the Russians for assistance.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:28:28 UTC No. 16278345
Sounds like if they can get them inserted into a useful orbit, it will be a low one that will shorten the lifespan of the sats.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:43:14 UTC No. 16278360
is it over?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:44:44 UTC No. 16278362
>>16278360
F9 stand down until 2nd stage issue resolved. probably 3 months?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:48:44 UTC No. 16278367
>all this almost 2 years to the day of the booster 7 spin prime explosion
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:50:45 UTC No. 16278369
I wake up to shit and F9 fucking exploded? WTF
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:51:36 UTC No. 16278371
>>16278369
not just exploded, the entire cape is destroyed, all launches have to be from MARS or Vandenberg now
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 06:56:52 UTC No. 16278379
>>16278371
Today is a good day
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 07:00:03 UTC No. 16278382
>>16278369
Also just woke up and it's over
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 07:06:00 UTC No. 16278386
The next F9 launch is still going to be on Sunday.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 07:07:57 UTC No. 16278389
>>16278386
Falcon 9s are grounded thanks to the irresponsible muskrat billionaire
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 07:13:33 UTC No. 16278393
https://powerlighttech.com/power-ov
That's gotta be the greatest glowtech i ever seen
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 07:15:42 UTC No. 16278395
AND ITS SPACE
https://powerlighttech.com/space/
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 07:19:55 UTC No. 16278396
It's over. Falcon 9 just EXPLODED, all launches are cancelled for at least a year pending FAA investigation, and Elon is busy shitposting on twitter instead of managing SpaceX.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 07:25:08 UTC No. 16278402
Now you know why JWST didnt launch on Spacex
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 07:38:34 UTC No. 16278410
>>16278402
1/~340? that's better than Ariane
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 08:11:00 UTC No. 16278442
>>16278226
>>16278251
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1811635
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 08:12:02 UTC No. 16278443
>>16278442
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18116
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 08:18:33 UTC No. 16278451
>>16278443
Warp 9
Engage
Soi face
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 08:22:07 UTC No. 16278454
>>16277597
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18116
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 08:24:45 UTC No. 16278457
>>16278454
lmao
Pelosi also called them fake news today
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 08:35:24 UTC No. 16278465
Reused stage > new stage
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 08:35:55 UTC No. 16278466
>>16277599
based botchad
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 08:45:51 UTC No. 16278471
They wouldn't have had this problem if they reused 2nd stage
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 09:23:08 UTC No. 16278493
I’m confident we’ll get another F9 launch by the end of august
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 09:23:40 UTC No. 16278494
>>16278318
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/11/
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 09:27:53 UTC No. 16278502
>>16278494
https://www.science.org/content/art
>Some years ago, Infineon changed its manufacturing process for its radiation-hard MOSFETs, which it designs to meet U.S. military specifications—the same radiation-resistance standards used by the Clipper team. After this change, the company’s classified customers found that several lots of the transistors failed at lower than expected radiation levels, Fitzpatrick said. The company has already corrected the mistake, but Infineon did not report the flaw to NASA because the company did not know what the transistors would be used for, Fitzpatrick said. “They did not realize it was going to affect us.” Infineon did not respond to a request for comment.
there was a problem with some updated manufacturing method for the chips but Infineon didn't inform NASA about the change because they didn't know what the chips would be used for
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 09:32:54 UTC No. 16278505
>be me
>M.sc. Physics Student in university
>listen to atmospheric physisch lecture because it looked ineresting
>and the prof. also works for the German Center for air- and spacetravel, so its semi /sfg/ related.
>for some reason talk about jet engines during lecture aa an example how pressure behaves
>think i remember the exhaust pressure ist deprndant in nozzle sitze, and If you get below atmospheric pressure in your exhaust thats bad, and the atmospheric pressure can "crush" your exhaust beam, hence atmospheric and Vacuum rocket nozzles have different sizes
>Not sure though, decide to ask the expert who is a PhD literally doing a lecture about exhaust velocity of Jet engines infront of a class of dozens of students
>ask "couldnt the exhaust pressure get so low, that the surrounding atmosphere could rush back into the exhaust nozzle?"
>Prof says "No, how would that Happen? There ist exhaust coming out of the nozzle at high velocity, there ist no way that anything could enter the nozzle from the outside, the beam IS in the way."
>Just nod and say okay, after all he s a PhD holding a lecture on the topic, and im a mere M.Sc Student
Am I retarded?
Ist he retarded?
Whats the reason for different nozzle sizes then?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 09:36:59 UTC No. 16278509
>>16278505
maybe you asked it in a confusing way
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 09:38:39 UTC No. 16278510
>>16278505
Doesn't that logic apply only to rocket engines? The jet engine breathes in air, so the pressure around inlet and exhaust should be similar and due to compression and combustion, the beam will have higher pressure than the air around.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 09:43:21 UTC No. 16278515
>>16278395
>>16278393
this seems kind of goofy. why not use a cable to transmit electricity instead?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 09:52:38 UTC No. 16278525
>>16278510
shouldnt still Something simmilar to the venturi effect from hydrodynamics Happen?
Higher Velocity leads to lower pressure?
>>16278509
Possible, but i dont think so, or believe IT to be unlikely, i m usually very eloquent in German, and never had this problem before when talking about physics to someone else who knows how physics Work.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:00:09 UTC No. 16278530
Falcon 9 just crashed into my backyard anons!
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:02:58 UTC No. 16278532
>>16278456
Wonder if the Russian segment is blasting this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISo
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:06:10 UTC No. 16278536
>>16278505
>>16278525
Oh right, and excuse the shitty writing.
Phoneposting and autocorrect set to German doesnt combine very well with writing english Text.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:09:25 UTC No. 16278539
> falcon grounded for the foreseeable future
Its so Joever :(
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:22:42 UTC No. 16278548
>>16277897
>Draper - H2O2/RP1 - Closed catalyst cycle
Thats a fuel combo you don't see very much anymore. Wish them luck just for being different.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:34:40 UTC No. 16278552
>>16278038
What is the ideal location for an initial mars base?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:35:40 UTC No. 16278553
>>16278379
Congratulations Pippa. Have some extra estrogen compliments of ULA.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:46:32 UTC No. 16278554
>>16278552
utopia basin or hellas basin, low elevation means higher pressure means easier to land more mass with Starship due to more atmospheric drag when doing landing manuever and easier to extract atmospheric gases
hellas planitia/basin might also have a glacier
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hella
>It features the lowest point on Mars, serves as a known source of global dust storms, and may have contained lakes and glaciers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopi
>On November 22, 2016, NASA reported finding a large amount of underground ice in the Utopia Planitia region. The volume of water detected has been estimated to be equivalent to the volume of water in Lake Superior.[11][12][13]
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:47:40 UTC No. 16278555
last IFT, nobody created a launch thread, so everybody got to see /sfg/ when it got stickied, that was the big problem
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:48:53 UTC No. 16278556
>>16278555
meant to reply to >>16278268
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:50:28 UTC No. 16278557
>>16278555
there was a launch thread, the janny just stickied both the launch thread and /sfg/ for some reason
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:53:00 UTC No. 16278559
>>16278557
your mom lets you have TWO sticky threads?
I don't remember there being a launch thread at all, but I was at work during all that, came home to find a totally fagged up /sfg/ thread.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:53:30 UTC No. 16278560
>>16278554
Hellas is really good cause it's so deep that pressure gets about twice that of earth. That means once terraforming gets going air pressure will become habitable way faster.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:56:35 UTC No. 16278563
>>16278515
Because copper is boomer tech and weighs a lot
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:59:02 UTC No. 16278566
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suy
>Orbital Tower B Segment 1 Stacking Timelapse - 11/07/2024
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 11:06:37 UTC No. 16278570
>>16278525
Oh, right. I don't know much about rockets.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 11:35:54 UTC No. 16278593
In color theory, the line of purples or purple boundary is the locus on the edge of the chromaticity diagram formed between extreme spectral red and violet. Except for these endpoints of the line, colors on the line are non-spectral (no monochromatic light source can generate them). Rather, every color on the line is a unique mixture in a ratio of fully saturated red and fully saturated violet, the two spectral color endpoints of visibility on the spectrum of pure hues. Colors on the line and spectral colors are the only ones that are fully saturated in the sense that, for any point on the line, no other possible color being a mixture of red and violet is more saturated than it.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 11:37:40 UTC No. 16278596
>>16278494
FUCK big if true. They new for a decade where the spacrcraft was going and only now they realize some chips won't work.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 11:39:37 UTC No. 16278598
w-why is everyone talking about falcon 9 suddenly?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 11:42:51 UTC No. 16278602
>>16278502
just cut out current transistors and solder in new ones problem solved. It's literally that easy to solve this spacecraft problem.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 11:42:58 UTC No. 16278603
>>16278598
Second stage exploded on relight.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 11:45:20 UTC No. 16278604
>>16278602
you need to do it fast and quick and reliably
what if you fuck up?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 11:45:46 UTC No. 16278605
>>16278505
with a subsonic flow out the nozzle the pressure right at the outlet will always be ambient no matter what. If supersonic - not sure.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 11:49:40 UTC No. 16278609
>>16278605
Aerofags cannot into space
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 11:50:13 UTC No. 16278610
>>16278604
There's no way a board is a significant contributor to the $4bil price tag. Hell I made a custom board in college and I was so poor I had to sneak into the business school to eat free sandwiches. There's no way this is prohibitive, right?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 11:54:10 UTC No. 16278617
>>16278505
Efficiency, maximum thrust is achieved when Nozzle pressure matches the ambient pressure of the atmosphere so that you get the most amount of the thrust directly underneath you.
This changes as you get higher up and into space where matching ambient is impossible but efficiency gains are still possible in a larger bell to reduce nozzle pressure.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 11:54:29 UTC No. 16278619
>>16278610
I mean its probably not COTS, so could be pretty expensive
on top of that they might have some custom modifications on top of that
so it might not just be about the cost, but perhaps time
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 11:56:44 UTC No. 16278622
>>16278603
it's so over. Falcon 9's reputation as a reliable rocket is ruined. This this failure rate we'll never have cheap spaceflight.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 11:56:49 UTC No. 16278623
>>16278251
>reasons unknown
kek
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 11:58:59 UTC No. 16278626
>>16278609
>>16278617
explain mach diamonds.
Protip: you can't
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 12:00:24 UTC No. 16278628
>>16278610
you would be surprised how much some of these aerospace electronics costs. not to mention the fact that they would have to disassemble the spacecraft just to get to these components could take weeks. This could easily become a 6month delay not sure.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 12:03:22 UTC No. 16278631
reminder that ariane 6 is on a bigger hot streak than falcon 9
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 12:03:48 UTC No. 16278632
>>16276760
they had more cameras than SpaceX.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 12:05:56 UTC No. 16278633
>>16278628
>le aerospace supply chain strikes again
I'm so mad
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 12:09:02 UTC No. 16278636
>>16278626
It's just compression and expansion of the exhaust of an over-expanded nozzle causing shockwaves within the exhaust and when the shock waves meet each other they form higher pressure/higher temp regions within the exhaust causing those areas to burn brighter thus mach diamods
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 12:13:25 UTC No. 16278641
>>16278636
why don't they adjust aircraft nozzles then to not over-expand? pic rel.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 12:24:51 UTC No. 16278645
Results over rhetoric bros we are so back
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 12:25:46 UTC No. 16278647
Will they be able to save the satellites?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 12:35:36 UTC No. 16278657
>>16278641
Cost-benefit anon, btw jet engine nozzles are already optimized for their range of operating altitudes, you need to compromise, adjustable nozzles are more for thrust vectoring than overall thrust.
The F-22 uses rectangular nozzles for stealth rather than thrust efficiency
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 12:49:14 UTC No. 16278667
someone please suggest a way to cope about the recent Falcon 9 failures
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 12:49:29 UTC No. 16278668
>>16278145
Will engine rats be the first terrestrial life on Mars?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 12:52:28 UTC No. 16278672
>>16278139
>>16278142
>>16278145
>>16278149
>>16278152
>>16278153
>>16278173
>>16278217
>>16278221
The falcon 9 failure as it unfolded.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 12:53:59 UTC No. 16278674
>>16278628
AEROSPACE
GRADE
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 12:54:23 UTC No. 16278676
https://youtu.be/WHsZ5wlVOj0?si=hwD
does the blanket around the engine usually inflate right at stage separation?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 12:59:11 UTC No. 16278680
>>16278344
Shitty translation back into English
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:01:51 UTC No. 16278685
>>16278667
This failure has nothing to do with reusability
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:07:09 UTC No. 16278691
>>16278661
What you call Mexico is the pieces of the country that America refused to annex due to the high number of Mexicans
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:08:26 UTC No. 16278692
>>16278685
but you cant reuse it if it blows up. Or can you?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:12:33 UTC No. 16278697
>>16278692
No, but 2nd stage which failed was new unlike the booster
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:16:18 UTC No. 16278699
>>16278672
thanks buddeh. Im just hoping that the space rats are ok.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:32:44 UTC No. 16278723
>>16278667
become European
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:33:35 UTC No. 16278724
>F9 fails and the thread is dead
Imagine how different it would be if SLS or ULA failed
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:36:10 UTC No. 16278727
>>16278724
Nobody cares about your
>imagine if it was on the other foot
argument
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:38:06 UTC No. 16278728
>>16278724
just wait until Starliner does something
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:38:29 UTC No. 16278729
>>16278724
It was just starlinks, if it was different payload then maybe you would have some activity
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:40:02 UTC No. 16278731
Ariane - partial failure
Falcon - total failure
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:40:27 UTC No. 16278732
https://x.com/FAANews/status/181175
FAA discussing Starbase launch candance increase to 25 launch per year
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:41:28 UTC No. 16278733
>>16278732
https://www.faa.gov/space/stakehold
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:43:04 UTC No. 16278736
>>16278724
>70th launch of the year of mass produced satellites vs $4bil taxpayer dollars
Imagine if things that are different were the same
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:48:39 UTC No. 16278749
>>16278731
If they actually manage to save some satellites then it wouldn't be total failure.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:49:31 UTC No. 16278750
>>16278732
>FAANews
its crystal porn isn't it?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:53:36 UTC No. 16278755
>>16278750
Official FAA account, actually.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:54:29 UTC No. 16278756
>>16277002
>>16277032
>even changed starliner to shartliner in the URL, making everyone have to change it back to actually read the article
I kneel.
>>16277145
Butch Wilmore was in the capsule, anon, he couldn't have been controlling it from the ground.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:55:48 UTC No. 16278758
>>16278724
This is the most /sfg/ activity for a starlink launch in years.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:56:51 UTC No. 16278759
>>16278505
Excessive ambient pressure over exit pressure can in actual fact force its way back into the nozzle and separate the jet. Once you get to 15-20% of ambient weird shit starts to happen and since separation is unstable and not guaranteed to occur evenly around the nozzle exit it results in oscillations and asymmetric thrust.
When formulas describe thrust or specific impulse, baking in the ambient pressure as if it were a thermal engine expanding a fluid down to that pressure, they use an accounting trick. The exhaust doesn't know there's an atmosphere producing losses unless there's flow separation.
The mechanistic explanation for how thrust is produced is that there's a pressure distribution across the nozzle interior, that diminishes as it flows down and expands. Highest in the chamber and lower towards the rim. The exhaust doesn't know there's an ambient, it simply exits higher than the speed of sound at whatever static pressure it was. The portion of the nozzle where the absolute static pressure of the jet is lower than ambient nets a suction instead of thrust, since it has high ambient pressure acting on the exterior face and low pressure acting on the interior.
This is why there are atmospheric suction losses. They always add up to atmospheric pressure acting over the nozzle exit area. The implication is that the ideal nozzle for an altitude has an exit pressure equal to ambient and even that ideal nozzle will suffer suction losses too, no matter what.
Real first stage engines are a compromise between performance at sea level and altitude and are almost always overexpanded at liftoff to some degree.
Another implication is that the portion of the nozzle that overexpands suffers compressive hoop stresses, this is why large vacuum engines threaten to collapse even if they fire at sea level without flow separation. (remember the hoop around raptor vacuums they install for static tests)
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:04:33 UTC No. 16278770
>>16278755
hmm
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:08:13 UTC No. 16278775
>>16278773
No danger to the public, retard
>>16278770
Shut the fuck up, frogposter
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:08:35 UTC No. 16278776
>>16278759
nta but is thrust still mass flow * velocity even with these suction effects? Cool explanation btw.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:10:00 UTC No. 16278779
>>16278676
Slightly, but there was a bigger leak this time
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:10:29 UTC No. 16278781
lack of frogposting is what made Falcon 9 abort in the first place.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:11:00 UTC No. 16278783
Doomposting aside how long do we actually think before falcon flies again?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:15:31 UTC No. 16278786
>>16278783
2 weeks
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:15:33 UTC No. 16278787
>>16278239
It's got ice, so I think it's from the preburner turbine or MCC
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:17:15 UTC No. 16278788
So why don't they recover second stage of F9? Also, what the hell are they gonna do if that happens with astronauts on it? Not like you have another engine, right?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:17:37 UTC No. 16278789
>>16278676
you can see the blanket inflate a lot and start forming a lot of ice at 1:30
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:18:57 UTC No. 16278791
>>16278344
I agree, Japanese person, grass
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:19:21 UTC No. 16278792
>>16278788
>Also, what the hell are they gonna do if that happens with astronauts on it? Not like you have another engine, right?
Simply separate the capsule and reenter after noticing anomalous engine venting. Also I think they don't do two burns with manned missions?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:28:59 UTC No. 16278801
>>16278776
It's mass flow rate * velocity - (ambient pressure * exit area) for conventional nozzles
There's an argument for total aerospikefag death in there if you're paying attention. If chamber pressure increases arbitrarily then you get arbitrarily high thrust out of the same exit area and suction losses amount to fuck all.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:29:07 UTC No. 16278802
>>16278788
>So why don't they recover second stage of F9
Falcon 9 is just just not big enough. The increase to dry mass of a fully reusable second stage seriously cuts into performance and falcon 9s payload of about 20 tons doesn't make it worth it. New glenn has a payload of about 45 tons and there it's barely worth it.
Might be worth it on falcon heavy but evidently spacex thought it better to go even bigger with starship.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:32:16 UTC No. 16278806
>>16278801
>It's mass flow rate * velocity - (ambient pressure * exit area) for conventional nozzles
source? Seems not intuitive. Does the same formula hold for jet engines?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:42:47 UTC No. 16278816
>>16278806
it was revealed to me in a dream
It doesn't work that way for jet engines, there's a second mass flow rate and free stream velocity associated with intake air that has to be accounted for. And in a lot of textbooks that merely touch on rocket engines as a subset of jet engines the formula for rocket thrust is simplified from the airbreathing one. (Which is why it's wrong and violates conservation of momentum) I'm not entirely sure who committed the original sin but it's out there in multiple copies now.
I love mechanistic interpretations because they don't give a fuck about the triple integral shitsperg that formulas up as and lose intuitive meaning.
The jet flow coming out of the nozzle exit is locally supersonic. Interaction with the atmosphere doesn't and can't propagate up the nozzle.
The engine, on the ground on static display has atmospheric pressure acting on all of its surfaces cancelling out (minus an insignificant buoyancy) even though these forces amount to tons for small areas. When the engine ignites and the jet attaches there's an area missing from that sum amounting to however large the nozzle exit is. Atmospheric pressure over the surfaces of the engine that it can reach nets to P0*Ae in the direction opposite the engine is producing thrust.
The engine in a vacuum produces thrust amounting to its mass flow rate out of the nozzle times the exhaust velocity or thereabouts. This part is non negotiable or conservation of momentum is violated.
Remove the part above from this thrust and it gets your thrust at sea level.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:51:42 UTC No. 16278820
>>16278816
>When the engine ignites and the jet attaches there's an area missing from that sum amounting to however large the nozzle exit is.
Is there another explanation for why we can't take into account this area when calculating the net force of air pressure on the rocket (which is zero when the engine is off but works against the engine when the engine is on). The point about the jet being supersonic and therefore information about the atmosphere not being able to propagate inside the engine doesn't satisfy me.
>(Which is why it's wrong and violates conservation of momentum)
how
also can you recommend some textbooks on jet engine and rocket engines?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 14:58:11 UTC No. 16278828
>>16278819
>remember what they took from you
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:02:13 UTC No. 16278834
>>16278829
well there goes the 200 launches/yr target, any investigation will probably take a couple of months.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:03:15 UTC No. 16278836
>>16278829
Commies
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:05:34 UTC No. 16278839
>>16278836
Shut up chud
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:06:11 UTC No. 16278840
>>16278829
3 weeks? Damn
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:10:20 UTC No. 16278847
At this point I would love to involve the possibility that this was an act of sabotage.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:15:24 UTC No. 16278856
>>16278829
we're going to miss out on 40 launches this year because of this.
this is why we need redundancy. neutron and new glenn can't come online fast enough.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:17:52 UTC No. 16278858
looks like we'll have to issue more bribes to Michael Whitaker. He's getting greedy.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:20:41 UTC No. 16278862
It's fine. One failure out of 333 for Falcon v1.2 is acceptable.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:23:15 UTC No. 16278865
>Ariane 6 second stage: FAULTY
>Hyperbola-1 third stage: FAULTY
>Falcon 9 second stage: FAULTY
>Europa Clipper computer chips: FRAIL
It's so over. Competency crisis has reached the highest echelons in all corners of the globe.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:24:00 UTC No. 16278867
>>16278862
Imagine if your car engine exploded every 333rd drive. SpaceX is finished.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:25:01 UTC No. 16278870
>>16278865
Where do all the talented people work now-a-days? Construction?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:26:13 UTC No. 16278873
>>16278868
Kill yourself
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:26:53 UTC No. 16278874
>>16278867
imagine if the car with the best track record on the market exploded every 333rd drive and the rest were worse. rockets are so unreliable it's a joke
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:28:37 UTC No. 16278876
>>16278867
It's no big deal for for Dragon which has no black zones for abort. Excitement on Starship human flights is guaranteed however.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:28:58 UTC No. 16278878
>>16278631
Ariane 6 has no successful flights
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:38:52 UTC No. 16278882
>noo falcon just EXPLODED
are these people retarded or just pretending?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:39:09 UTC No. 16278883
>>16278873
So is that the new official musk line on when its happening?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:39:56 UTC No. 16278884
>>16278883
Dilate
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:40:33 UTC No. 16278885
>>16278868
Latest news was early august but it’s increasingly looking like it’ll be NET mid august at least
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:40:40 UTC No. 16278886
>>16278559
there was a launch thread and the faggot mod stickied both
>>16278691
by the time we were strong enough to start big dick swinging (right before the Civil War, basically), Mexico was also a powerhouse and we fought a couple of wars
that's how we got Texas
>>16278773
I hate it when you're right
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:40:44 UTC No. 16278887
>>16278882
RUD means exploded and elon explicitly stated that the MVAC RUDed>>16278251
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:41:51 UTC No. 16278888
>>16278878
It does have one succesful orbital launch however
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:43:43 UTC No. 16278890
>>16278887
Shut the fuck up you stupid fucking chud
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:45:05 UTC No. 16278891
>>16278820
As far as explanations go no, as far as evidence goes, yes.
Does your disbelief stem from thinking of Pe as relative to ambient? You can tell it's not the case by looking at vacuum engine tests at sea level. The jet contracts dramatically as it exits despite a radial velocity component at the nozzle rim. You could also dial in an engine with whichever nozzle exit area you want into cfd and compare expected suction losses against whatever the software spits out. Or look up thrust versus altitude charts of documented, existing engines and calculate what losses amount to at a given altitude (closed cycle probably least confusing here)
Pt, Pe and P0 are taken as absolute pressures. If the static pressure inside a portion of the nozzle is lower than ambient then there can only be losses in that portion. Ultimately it doesn't matter if it's local supersonic flow that enables this or some other kind of fluid dynamic hoodoo. Whether there's loss or not and what it amounts to is a simple summation if you admit Pe is lower than ambient.
>>16278820
>how
Momentum is conserved when a parcel of exhaust gas leaves the engine in a vacuum. The impulse delivered to the rocket is going to be equal to the velocity times the mass of the gas. If force is the time derivative of momentum then the left term becomes thrust and the right term becomes mass flow rate times velocity.
Some documentation derives thrust for a jet engine in the general case, from conservation laws as mass times velocity of exhaust minus mass times velocity of intake. Adds the nozzle, introduces pressures then simplifies for the special case of rocket engines and leaves a term attached that gives vacuum thrust as mass flow rate times velocity PLUS exit pressure times exit area.
This gives the correct difference between vacuum and sea level thrust but overestimates vacuum thrust to begin with.
I'm sorry can't tell you what to read, I'm rusty and this isn't my area of expertise.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:46:08 UTC No. 16278892
>>16278887
>upper stage
>engine RUD
so? this is a manufacture issue. I'm not even a musk fanboy but probably will be fixed soon.
stage 1 landed just fine.
again, are you retarded or just pretending?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:47:54 UTC No. 16278895
>>16278893
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18117
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:47:55 UTC No. 16278896
>F9 grounded
>no Dragons can reach ISS
>shartliner astronauts are actually trapped now
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:49:26 UTC No. 16278897
>>16278896
Jeff Bezos will personally pilot New Shepard to save them
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:51:51 UTC No. 16278899
>>16278892
>so?
irrelevant
>this is a manufacture issue
irrelevant
>I'm not even a musk fanboy
irrelevant
>probably will be fixed soon
irrelevant
>stage 1 landed just fine
you guessed it, also irrelevant.
an explosion occurred on the second stage of a falcon 9 rocket. anyone who is saying that is not wrong or retarded. I'm sorry if this is hard for you to grasp.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:53:41 UTC No. 16278901
>>16278887
Do you understand the difference between the engine and the whole second stage?
There is no fucking way it still can deployed Starlinks if the whole stage exploded.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:55:23 UTC No. 16278902
>>16278901
>the explosion wasn't too big tho
weird cope but you do you
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:57:37 UTC No. 16278904
yeah, he's just pretending. move on, don't feed the troll
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:59:10 UTC No. 16278906
>>16278902
So do you think the second stage exploded or not?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:59:43 UTC No. 16278908
>>16278902
Who are you quoting?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:01:46 UTC No. 16278910
>>16278908
>>16278901 but I paraphrased their point. which was that the second stage didn't explode because it was able to deploy satellites and any explosions to the contrary can be ignored.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:01:54 UTC No. 16278911
>>16278893
>transparent when issues arise
>refuse to release video of engine exploding
>refuse to say if they will be able to save the Starlinks
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:02:05 UTC No. 16278912
>>16278868
OFT5 launches August 15
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:04:30 UTC No. 16278914
>>16278829
>spacex gets grounded for a mishap
>boing gets to keep flying even though they're killing hundreds of people and have two more stranded in space
????????????????????????????????
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:05:14 UTC No. 16278916
reminder that the second stage experienced an explosion as reported by Elon musk. anyone trying to deny this is extremely delusional. No this does not mean the whole stage disintegrated.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:06:42 UTC No. 16278917
You people are overreacting
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:07:08 UTC No. 16278918
reminder not to keep feeding the troll
retards
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:07:12 UTC No. 16278919
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY
a whole ass video about elon that features tesla, twitter, sex scandals, but barely anything about spacex
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:07:57 UTC No. 16278920
>>16278910
the engine exploded, not the second stage
that is a pretty important difference
whether it can be ignored or not is another matter which you just made up
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:09:19 UTC No. 16278922
>>16278893
>>transparent when issues arise
>SpaceX
LMAOO
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:11:28 UTC No. 16278925
>>16278917
We are not. Musk isn't that young and will risk a heart attack from this grounding.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:11:53 UTC No. 16278926
>>16278912
Assumption Day - When Catholics believe Mary was taken up to Heaven.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:22:27 UTC No. 16278932
>one functionary in the Rocket Branch (safely in Washington) who had apparently been reading Captain Horado Hornblower, wanted us at NARTS to build ourselves a 10,000- gallon tank, fill it up with 90 percent peroxide, and then drop into it—so help me God—one rat.
Thanks to whoever posted ignition a few threads ago, been having a blast reading it.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:27:12 UTC No. 16278936
>>16278824
frost on the 'ster
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:31:09 UTC No. 16278937
>>16278931
uhm, did no one tell him about A6 problems?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:31:22 UTC No. 16278938
>>16278891
okay another question. What if the rocket engine is a weak engine with a subsonic exhaust speed. Will there then be a suction drag or no. And if the engine increase power until supersonic exhaust speed will suddenly suction drag appear suddenly.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:32:14 UTC No. 16278939
>>16278931
hehehehe
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:33:23 UTC No. 16278941
>>16278931
We all know that Falcon flew many times successfully and will fly many times successfully after this launch.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:37:53 UTC No. 16278945
spin prime
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:44:26 UTC No. 16278950
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:44:54 UTC No. 16278951
>>16278732
>>16278733
>25 launches out of starbase next year
how likely is this? keep in mind we're likely to only get 4 launches this year out of a projected 9 total.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:46:19 UTC No. 16278952
>>16278951
depends how quickly they can get catch and reuse working I would say.
entirely possible if flight 5 booster lands in reflyable condition, but I don't really expect that to happen.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:46:42 UTC No. 16278953
>>16278951
hmm even at that rate its one launch a month next year
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:49:25 UTC No. 16278957
https://youtu.be/St-yEc6fyLg
THE END OF SPACEX
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:49:59 UTC No. 16278958
>>16278938
When the flow is subsonic there isn't a distinction between thrust and suction losses, the pressure differential drives exhaust velocity directly. At an extreme case an absolute chamber pressure of one bar at sea level will result in nothing happening, no exhaust velocity, no thrust, no losses, no mass flow rate. In a vacuum even one bar would produce something, not anything worth calculating though.
Suction losses would suddenly appear (and thrust would increase) but that's besides the point since exhaust velocity is a function of nozzle geometry and insufficient chamber pressure would result in the jet failing to attach.
Either way even cold gas thrusters reach supersonic speeds.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:51:13 UTC No. 16278961
>>16278957
This reminds me of the first airplane crash. It is only downhill from here, no one will want to fly on a plane after this
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:53:30 UTC No. 16278966
>>16278951
If there's no real issues, it should be fine. There hasn't been any issues so far yet. So I think it will be fine
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:56:06 UTC No. 16278971
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mis
>However, a liquid oxygen leak developed on the second stage
>As such, the satellites will re-enter Earth’s atmosphere and fully demise
OWARI DA
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:56:47 UTC No. 16278973
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:58:45 UTC No. 16278975
nasa and boeing are going to open full page spreads in multiple news outfits on monday with hit pieces on how dangerous and reckless spacex is due to this failure
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:02:51 UTC No. 16278979
FALCON 9 FLEET IS GROUNDED
AAAAAAAAAA
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:03:09 UTC No. 16278980
it was bound to happen eventually. and the way it happened is not exciting, a small lox leak.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:03:31 UTC No. 16278981
>>16278975
Good? It's warranted
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:04:19 UTC No. 16278982
>>16278975
>nasa
Take your meds and count to ten before posting
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:04:27 UTC No. 16278983
>>16278950
>>16278945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyu
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:04:49 UTC No. 16278985
so it was a LOX leak
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:06:55 UTC No. 16278986
boring
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:07:09 UTC No. 16278988
>>16278985
Yeah, we saw the liquid leaking and ice forming a lot. The question is whether its a bad Q/A or if there was new anomaly/interaction that is unique
https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/statu
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:14:33 UTC No. 16278989
>>16278988
>The question is whether its a bad Q/A or if there was new anomaly/interaction that is unique
which is worse for spacex? I'm going to say new interaction. if it was just bad QA they can fix that validate existing hardware pretty quickly. design changes could take a long time.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:16:51 UTC No. 16278992
>>16278988
it was a joint hit squad with drills from ULA, BO and Arianespace
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:19:36 UTC No. 16278995
>>16278989
Neither are really worse. Maybe bad QA is worse from a pipeline pov and they are too lax with some standards. This would mean they would need more rigorous verification process all around. New interaction means novel new thing thats an interesting find ofc.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:20:53 UTC No. 16278997
>>16278973
>>16278251
>>16278226
>>16278895
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1811805
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:20:54 UTC No. 16278998
>Each pass through perigee removes 5+ km of altitude from the highest point in the satellite orbit. At this level of drag, our maximum available thrust is unlikely to be enough to successfully raise the satellites.
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1811805
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:21:06 UTC No. 16278999
They had the camera view, they saw the leak happen, and they had onboard sensors, so should be quick to isolate the cause imo
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:23:35 UTC No. 16279002
https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/statu
They just did the spin prime test for the booster
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:24:21 UTC No. 16279004
>>16278117
they should have always had 600 lbs to spare, even if it meant cutting out some gay shit
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:30:22 UTC No. 16279012
>>16279005
this. second stage reuse from now on!
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:32:13 UTC No. 16279015
>>16278502
moving away from vacuum tubes and iron core memory was a mistake, I tell you hwat
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:32:56 UTC No. 16279016
>>16278657
>>16278641
The F-22 loses an estimated 10,000 pounds of thrust by having rectangular nozzles; they're definitely not for efficiency's sake.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:41:08 UTC No. 16279024
>>16278789
yeah, at exactly T+4:07
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:43:37 UTC No. 16279026
>>16278560
>Hellas is really good cause it's so deep that pressure gets about twice that of earth
ummm you mean Earth atmosphere at 40k ft vs 80k ft?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:43:43 UTC No. 16279027
>>16279025
Dang you guys post shit before me.. Bleh..
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:44:58 UTC No. 16279028
>>16279026
Sorry I meant mars, not earth.
t. retard
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:46:53 UTC No. 16279031
>>16279027
you've gotta step it up nigga
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:48:22 UTC No. 16279032
>>16278560
>Hellas
You mean Greece right lol
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:48:57 UTC No. 16279033
>>16278932
Ignition! is mandatory reading. Informative and entertaining. (almost every rocket fuel they could think of was tried in the early days, with the baffling exception of methane)
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:49:10 UTC No. 16279034
>>16279032
>Greece
You mean grease right lmao
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:49:57 UTC No. 16279035
>>16278932
>been having a blast
so were the rocket fuel testers
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:52:17 UTC No. 16279037
>>16278829
Just launch anyway chevron defence doeant work now
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 17:54:00 UTC No. 16279039
>>16278865
SAVE US JEFF BEZOS, YOU'RE OUR ONLY HOPE.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:01:50 UTC No. 16279047
>>16279037
a lawsuit would take far longer
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:02:50 UTC No. 16279048
Any webms of the moment of the owari da?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:06:15 UTC No. 16279050
>>16279048
Nope, stream was cut before the first burn was completed, failure was on the second burn
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:06:58 UTC No. 16279052
>>16279048
There is no real owar da moment. Ice buildup and leaking during first 2nd stage burn. They didn't stream the relight attempt.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:07:47 UTC No. 16279055
>>16279048
leak occurs at t+4:07
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:10:37 UTC No. 16279057
>>16279048
The engine exploded after they cut the feed
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:13:57 UTC No. 16279061
>>16279033
>almost every rocket fuel they could think of was tried in the early days, with the baffling exception of methane
but they did try methane as fuel, just not with oxygen as the oxidizer
>NASA itself, have concentrated their efforts on OF2 and the light hydrocarbons: methane, ethane, propane, 1-butene, and assorted mixtures of these. (In most of their motor work, they used a mixture of oxygen and fluorine as a reasonably inexpensive surrogate for OF2.) All the hydrocarbons were good fuels, but methane was in a class by itself as a coolant, transpiration or regenerative, besides having the best performance. The OF2–methane combination is an extremely promising one. (It took a long time for Winkler’s fuel of 1930 to come into its own!)
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:17:59 UTC No. 16279067
>The streak is dead
Damn. However there's now a chance that the consecutive successful landings streak could overtake the launch one, which would be funny.
>>16278911
>>16278922
I'm sure they're more transparent with their customers, especially those that are actually going to ride that rocket.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:20:57 UTC No. 16279068
does someone know coordinates/water depth at the booster splashdown site? is it possible to reach with scuba without fancy gas mixes?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:22:44 UTC No. 16279072
https://x.com/payloadspace/status/1
>The space sector contributed $131B to American GDP in 2022, according to the most recent and precise analysis by the US government’s Bureau of Economic Analysis.
https://payloadspace.com/the-growin
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:26:05 UTC No. 16279075
>>16279047
Keep launching, they wont be able to keep up
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:27:49 UTC No. 16279078
Do you guys not understand what just happened?? STARLINER CREW IS STRANDED IN SPACE FOREVER. FALCON 9 IS NOT ALLOWED TO SAVE THEM
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:29:57 UTC No. 16279080
>>16278553
pippa debooonked thunderf00t though
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:30:20 UTC No. 16279081
SpaceX will be shut down by FAA and liquidated
It's over
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:31:27 UTC No. 16279086
>>16279078
they'll come back on Gaganyaan
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:32:24 UTC No. 16279087
>>16279067
>However there's now a chance that the consecutive successful landings streak could overtake the launch one, which would be funny.
how many consecutive launches are we at now?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:33:25 UTC No. 16279089
>>16279078
Boing lucked out
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:34:26 UTC No. 16279090
>>16279068
nice try Chinese agent. Bet you want to take a look at those engines
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:35:58 UTC No. 16279094
>>16279005
some intern didn't tighten the blumbing good enough and this happened.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:36:31 UTC No. 16279095
FAA just announced SpaceX can't be trusted to deliver high energy payloads to precision bullseye orbits so their assets will be liquidated and given to ULA to takeover
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:36:59 UTC No. 16279096
>>16278998
will they use the Satellites remaining time in orbit to provide internet services
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:37:47 UTC No. 16279098
>>16279078
couldn't an unmanned Dragon go up on a Falcon 9 though? Can an unmanned Dragon be sent up and remotely docked?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:37:59 UTC No. 16279099
https://x.com/FronteraSpacial/statu
reentry, its ogre
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:38:26 UTC No. 16279101
Imagine if that upper stage exploded over a populated area, we need to shut down SpaceX before they kill someone, even if it saves one life it's worth doing
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:40:06 UTC No. 16279105
>>16279101
>Imagine if that upper stage exploded over a populated area of Mexico.
ummm nah no biggie.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:43:51 UTC No. 16279110
https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1
Holy shit Jared is PISSED, never seen him this mad before, it's over
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:46:39 UTC No. 16279114
>>16279090
as if there wasn't any enough high res photos from all angles online.
it'd be a really neat dive if it's not too deep. tell em you wouldn't want to do it
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:47:14 UTC No. 16279115
Do we really want people to fly on Falcon 9 knowing how upper stage can just randomly blow up?
I think not, we need to bring the good times of Space Shuttle back and restart the program
🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:47:58 UTC No. 16279116
apparently the faggots over at the NASA Center for Climate Simulation have been jumping their campus provided electric scooters over ramps and not filming it for us
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:49:16 UTC No. 16279118
>>16279098
anon, they'd need to admit that they have a problem and ask for help. can you imagine what a PR disaster that would be? think of the shareholders
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:49:26 UTC No. 16279120
>>16279098
What part of Falcon 9 being grounded don't you understand?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:52:32 UTC No. 16279125
>>16276704
>other customers for SLS
How much death threads / bribery would be necessary to make this happen? I don't think even Congress can pull this off.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:53:51 UTC No. 16279127
>>16279098
>Using death trap known as Falcon 9 to send anything into orbit
Might as well set that dragon on fire, would be cheaper
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:54:38 UTC No. 16279128
the rolling success rate of F9 over the last 1 flights is 0%
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:55:13 UTC No. 16279131
>>16279115
We need to start pulling the orbiters from the museums ASAP, once we get them to the Cape and top up their tanks they should be good to resume operations by the end of the month I bet, but only if we act with urgency and don't let the SpaceX cult members get in our way.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:55:13 UTC No. 16279132
>>16276772
That doesn't explain their refusal to serve food using utensils.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:59:44 UTC No. 16279138
>>16279131
Musk cultists will do anything to prevent sensible and reasonable government run space program, imagine using a rocket with a capsule to send people up, it's not 60s anymore, I don't even
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:00:37 UTC No. 16279139
>>16279120
no dum dum, I mean in an emergency couldn't a falcon 9 take up a Dragon to bring down stranded astronauts, yes it would be despite this anomaly with last night's Falcon 9 second stage, what I'm really asking is can an unmanned Dragon dock with ISS not for you to reiterate what happened 12 hours ago.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:03:17 UTC No. 16279144
I'm so upset
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:03:32 UTC No. 16279145
>>16279101
literally CSS tier dunning kruuger
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:04:03 UTC No. 16279147
>>16277579
After most of the CO2 snows out of the atmosphere (this happens at relatively high temperatures, due to the immense pressure of the Venusian atmosphere) it can be packed up and shipped off the planet with mass drivers.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:04:04 UTC No. 16279148
>>16279144
look, I'm sorry that you're not allowed to ride the scooter in the hallway but it just isn't safe
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:04:39 UTC No. 16279149
>>16279139
how do you think cargo dragons are docking? a little goblin in a tiny cockpit steering the capsule?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:05:09 UTC No. 16279150
>>16279127
>It was me, Elon, the source of all your pain this whole time. *maniacal laughing*
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:06:32 UTC No. 16279154
>>16277913
Put weights on top of it.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:06:59 UTC No. 16279155
>>16279149
Have they ever remotely docked a crew Dragon, more smug than smart one?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:07:43 UTC No. 16279157
>>16277715
In space, anybody who tries to do communism will suffer a mysterious airlock accident.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:08:54 UTC No. 16279158
>>16279099
>exploded and entered the earth in my country
stage 2 just flew over my house!
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:10:47 UTC No. 16279160
I'm so upset that anon is so upset
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:12:53 UTC No. 16279163
>>16278097
To be fair, "endeavor" is the normal modern American spelling of the word. The shuttle used the British spelling because it was named after the HMS Endeavour, Captain Cook's ship.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:13:40 UTC No. 16279164
>>16279158
Messi will lose
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:13:51 UTC No. 16279165
>>16278931
>Ariane 6: 0/1 = 0.0% (lmao)
>Ariane 5: 115/117 = 98.3%
>every Ariane rocket combined, going back to 1979: 252/262 = 96.2%
>Falcon 9: 361/364 = 99.2%
>still time to come back on Ariane 6
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:14:22 UTC No. 16279167
>>16279154
If your tension/compression gets too crazy then instead of something going slightly wrong your dome just explodes
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:14:57 UTC No. 16279168
>>16278691
President Polk was angry that his negotiator left Mexico with so much dirt.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:15:01 UTC No. 16279169
>>16279165
>counts every ariane family rocket failure
>doesn't count falcon 1 failures
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:15:23 UTC No. 16279170
>>16279160
More than upset, I'm pissed.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:16:24 UTC No. 16279172
>>16279168
What could have been. Look at all that rocket launchable coastline
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:17:59 UTC No. 16279176
>>16279149
yes
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:18:41 UTC No. 16279177
>>16279167
not an inflatable dome inflated to .5 bar and subject to just 38% earth gravity
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:20:56 UTC No. 16279178
>>16279168
We need to bring US imperialism back, just for this
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:24:02 UTC No. 16279181
https://x.com/SpaceBasedFox/status/
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:25:35 UTC No. 16279187
Theoretically, if they wanted to send a crew Dragon up to the ISS, but launch it unmanned, does anybody here know if the crew Dragons are outfitted with the same equipment (ie radars/computers/data links etc) that allow cargo Dragons to rendezvous with and dock to the ISS, thus allowing an unmanned crew Dragon to do the same? Does anybody here know the answer to this (please, anybody except that same bozo who doesn't know the answer but keeps telling me "Falcon 9 is over dude!")
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:27:16 UTC No. 16279189
>>16278829
does this make any sense?
Did the second stage produce a debris field? Is there any risk to the public at all if this happens again?
Why are they treating this like a passenger airliner? Shouldn't they just suspend crew flights? What happens when we have thousands of launches per year with an amazing safety record, and one failure grounds a massive fleet and spaceflight economy?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:31:01 UTC No. 16279193
>>16279189
Makes no sense, FAA need to stay in their lane
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:31:52 UTC No. 16279194
>>16279189
didn't even happen in the air. how is it federal AVIATION administration jurisdiction?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:32:18 UTC No. 16279196
>>16279177
>inflatable
Not what we were talking about. That guy was arguing for structural domes, I posted >>16277663
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:32:57 UTC No. 16279197
>If the Falcon 9 is out of commission for an extended period of time, it could mean rolling setbacks for NASA’s astronaut launch schedule, SpaceX’s orbital space tourism efforts, the company’s satellite internet service, and the global commercial satellite industry, which relies heavily on the Falcon 9.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:33:09 UTC No. 16279198
>>16279087
0 (was 320 or so, plus 10 Heavies)
Landings are somewhere around 200 I think
>>16279155
>>16279187
Anon...
>>16279165
It is kind of funny banter. Just not the kind you should post on Linkedin or make when your rocket just had a very similar failure.
>>16279189
Rocket didn't adhere to flight plan, so it gets investigated. But as you point out the risk to public is likely minimal, so they probably won't do much except follow the investigation.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:33:48 UTC No. 16279200
>>16279193
Chevron Deference got tossed by SCOTUS so SpaceX should sue the shit out of the FAA for making up rules they have no congressional authority to enforce.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:33:52 UTC No. 16279201
>>16279194
same way the IRS is asking for shekels of US citizens, even if they life and work in another country.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:35:02 UTC No. 16279204
Seriously, what the fuck is FAA doing, are they retarded?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:36:12 UTC No. 16279207
>The two Starliner astronauts went to space without two suitcases they packed with clothes and toiletries because NASA needed to squeeze a bathroom pump on board their flight. It’s not yet clear whether NASA will be forced to delay that resupply mission.
holy shit what
WHAAAT
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:37:03 UTC No. 16279209
>>16279198
so you don't know the answer either or are you the bozo?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:38:31 UTC No. 16279212
>>16279187
we already established its a little goblin piloting it. works the same with crew and cargo version
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:38:56 UTC No. 16279214
>>16279204
all government agencies are power hungry it seems
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:40:43 UTC No. 16279216
>>16278318
>>16278494
>>16278502
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/18
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:42:27 UTC No. 16279219
>>16279216
>The Clipper mission has launch opportunities in 2025 and 2026, but these could lead to additional delays. This is due to the need for multiple gravitational assists. The 2024 launch follows a "MEGA" trajectory, including a Mars flyby in 2025 and an Earth flyby in late 2026—Mars-Earth Gravitational Assist. If Clipper launches a year late, it would necessitate a second Earth flyby. A launch in 2026 would revert to a MEGA trajectory. Ars has asked NASA for timelines of launches in 2025 and 2026 and will update if they provide this information.
>Another negative result of delays would be costs, as keeping the mission on the ground for another year likely would result in another few hundred million dollars in expenses for NASA, which would blow a hole in its planetary science budget.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:43:58 UTC No. 16279222
>>16279212
so I'm sensing that nobody here knows whether an unmanned crew Dragon, (to reiterate: a CREW Dragon with NO pilot aboard) can be remotely controlled to rendezvous with and ultimately to dock with the ISS and then be accessed from the outside to allow human entry into said vehicle. It's OK, I'll wait and ask again later when there's other anons here, maybe somebody will know then.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:44:27 UTC No. 16279225
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:44:58 UTC No. 16279226
>>16279110
4chanx needs to update to allow embedding x posts
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:45:30 UTC No. 16279228
>Europa Clipper MOSFETs fucked
>Falcon 9 second stage engine blew up
>Ariane 6 second stage re-light failed
>Starliner stranded and astronauts marooned
whats next? Starfactory burns down and the launch tower falls over?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:45:34 UTC No. 16279229
>>16279226
It used to have but twitter API change or something made it not function anymore
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:46:06 UTC No. 16279231
>>16279225
Imagine them falling on someone
SpaceX must be cancelled before they kill people
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:46:19 UTC No. 16279232
So some people are arguing that SpaceX should slow down the production and launch so they can be safer.
What makes more sense?
100 launch per year with 1 failure every year?
or
10 launches per year with 1 failure every 10 year?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:46:49 UTC No. 16279234
>>16279222
why do you think a cargo dragon could dock independently but a crew dragon could not?
if not, the modification should be relatively straightforward
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:47:20 UTC No. 16279235
>>16279232
More like 100 launches per year with 1 failure every 6 years
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:48:58 UTC No. 16279238
>>16279232
Any failure is bad when it can kill people
SpaceX must be investigated or even shut down if it can prevent just a single death
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:49:17 UTC No. 16279239
>>16279237
what the fuck
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:49:20 UTC No. 16279240
>>16279235
Well, how about this.
Year 1: 100 launch with 1 failure
Year 2: 100 launch with 0 failure
Year 3: 100 launch with 0 failure
Year 4: 100 launch with 1 failure
Year 5: 100 launch with 0 failure
Year 6: 100 launch with 0 failure
Year 7: 100 launch with 0 failure
Year 8: 100 launch with 1 failure
Year 9: 100 launch with 0 failure
Year 10: 100 launch with 0 failure
3 failures in 10 years
vs
1 failure in 10 years
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:50:29 UTC No. 16279242
>>16279239
Sydney Sweeney school of fashion
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:51:26 UTC No. 16279245
>>16279241
Why dont we despose of the FAA for good? Who's with me?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:51:51 UTC No. 16279246
If FAA is a legitimate organization, the investigation would be done in <2 weeks.
If its just a grift, it would be 1+ month delay
If its evil, it would be 6+ month delay
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:51:53 UTC No. 16279247
>>16279169
My point was that Falcon 9 is more reliable than both Arianespace's incoming and outgoing rockets, and that it has also had more successful launches (361 vs. 252) than every Ariane rocket combined.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:53:24 UTC No. 16279248
>Boing crashes the same plane twice killing over 300 people
>Everything's fine folks, just keep on flying them
>SpaceX has upper stage failure on uncrewed Falcon 9
>CANCEL THAT EVIL CHUD RIGHT FUCKING NOW
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:53:50 UTC No. 16279249
>>16279222
the docking procedure is autonomous anyway so i dont really see why it couldn't. i assume other maneuvers and/ or can be remotely/autonomously carried out too but im not sure right now
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 19:55:46 UTC No. 16279252
>>16279207
Shitter was full.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:04:24 UTC No. 16279257
>>16279237
really, this conspiracy theory drivel is what the space force uses for promotion?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:05:34 UTC No. 16279260
>>16279226
>>16279229
4chan X hasn't been updated in over a year; I think it's more or less abandoned. Xitter embeds work fine for me with the 4chan XT fork.
https://github.com/TuxedoTako/4chan
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:06:19 UTC No. 16279262
>>16279260
ah the cycle of 4chan extensions, thanks anon
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:09:52 UTC No. 16279268
>>16278318
JUST GO TO VENUS, URANUS, AND TITAN ALREADY YOU BLITHERING IDIOTS. These are literally the most straight forward missions they can do and yet we'll have to wait until we're a bunch of old men possibly see a chance to have them realized.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:10:26 UTC No. 16279269
>>16279260
Awesome, it works with my 4chanX config too.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:11:47 UTC No. 16279272
>>16279257
boo hoo nigga, movies about faking the moon landings have a fine premise.
do you also get mad that abe lincoln didn't actually hunt vampires?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:16:14 UTC No. 16279279
>>16279222
Obviously it can, the hurdle as I see it would be NASA objecting to an upper stage parking in the same plane as the ISS where it could potentially explode and send debris into higher apogee orbits (as explosions do).
When CRS-1 had a flame out on the first stage they threw a shitfit and didn't allow a second stage reignition. The second stage wasn't even involved in any capacity but it is this time.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:19:01 UTC No. 16279282
>>16279272
NTA but yes.
I also hate fateshitters.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:19:46 UTC No. 16279284
>>16278691
To think we could all be migrating there if we had kept it
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:35:23 UTC No. 16279302
>>16279168
Such an easier, shorter border to defend too, we really fucked up
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:48:15 UTC No. 16279316
stage'd
>>16279314
>>16279314
>>16279314
>>16279314
>>16279314
also pi get
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 20:56:15 UTC No. 16279322
non faggot staging
>>16279321
>>16279321
>>16279321
>>16279321
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 21:00:44 UTC No. 16279331
>>16279114
But you could look at the turbines and materials
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 21:00:45 UTC No. 16279334
>>16279231
Oh, so the BRILLIANT PEBBLES faggot isn't pipe up now? Interesting
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 21:11:31 UTC No. 16279359
>>16279245
This is an unambiguously good idea. The real problem with the FAA is the "Federal" part.
There's still going to be a procedure for launch licensing no matter what, but imagine how things would be if independent regulators at Cape Canaveral, Wallops, and maybe Camden, Georgia were all competing to have the most responsive process so they could attract the most business.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 21:17:59 UTC No. 16279366
>>16279222
crew dragon has the same equipment as cargo dragon
>>16279245
can't be done until we have the high ground
>>16279359
I like this idea
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 21:34:06 UTC No. 16279395
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 21:51:57 UTC No. 16279419
>>16278950
is this loss?
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 21:53:31 UTC No. 16279425
>>16279316
>>16279322
how do I decide
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 22:10:24 UTC No. 16279449
>>16279425
pick the one that isn't gay as fuck
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 22:15:07 UTC No. 16279455
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jul 2024 23:50:12 UTC No. 16279567
sorry chuds. falcon 9 is being grounded for 6 months due to that MISHAP. Meanwhile Starliner will return and fly again after a flawless mission. Who's laughing now?
Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jul 2024 00:00:20 UTC No. 16279585
>>16279125
It ain't fucking happening, period.
Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jul 2024 00:38:18 UTC No. 16279625
>>16279425
The first one always wins, thems the rules
Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jul 2024 00:39:05 UTC No. 16279626
>>16279237
>>16279239
She's so nasty. Only reason she's popular is because the media brainwashes NPCs into lusting for her. Literally just go outside and you can easily see dozens of women that are 10x prettier than her. 20 minutes ago I went out to buy a milk shake and the woman behind the window at the dairy bar was beautiful and kind, not a fish faced bitch like johansen.
Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jul 2024 00:42:20 UTC No. 16279632
>>16276674
How is this science related?
Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jul 2024 01:10:35 UTC No. 16279667
>>16279072
good find anon