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Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:42:09 UTC No. 16274623
Arianne 6 Launch Edition
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Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:43:50 UTC No. 16274629
>>16274623
>Ariane Launch System
lol, lmao even
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:44:03 UTC No. 16274630
>>16274623
FIRST FOR GUARANTEED ACCESS TO SPACE WITH THE MOST ECONOMICALLY SENSIBLE ROCKET EVER
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:47:11 UTC No. 16274637
>>16274633
it won't
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:47:27 UTC No. 16274639
You spelled Space+Flight wrong
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:47:54 UTC No. 16274640
Whos ready for a kaboom on the pad?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:48:27 UTC No. 16274641
>>16274633
>(Official broadcast)
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:49:00 UTC No. 16274643
>>16274640
no way it's blowing up
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:49:06 UTC No. 16274644
>>16274641
"(((Official broadcast)))"
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:49:13 UTC No. 16274645
EUROBROS WE'RE SO BACK
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:50:07 UTC No. 16274646
>>16274640
I am ready
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:50:17 UTC No. 16274647
So how is 6 better than 5?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:50:38 UTC No. 16274649
>>16274645
We aren't, though.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:50:41 UTC No. 16274650
>>16274647
because seven ate nine
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:50:42 UTC No. 16274651
>>16274644
Greentext your quotes
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:50:48 UTC No. 16274652
>>16274647
6 is a bigger number
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:50:59 UTC No. 16274654
>>16274645
you got 11min barring a pushback before you can say that..... and even then it's not really comparable to SpaceX in terms of cost/efficiency
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:50:59 UTC No. 16274655
>>16274644
ecksdee
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:52:24 UTC No. 16274656
has a launch ever actually failed because of shit weather?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:53:03 UTC No. 16274659
>>16274656
apollo 12 almost did
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:53:12 UTC No. 16274660
15 ROCKETS
BELON BUSK CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:53:26 UTC No. 16274661
That's it, I'm awarding Zubrin an honorary Director of Propulsion position at 4ASS.
>no no see the fissioning aqueous solution goes prompt supercritical BEFORE it has time to boil
https://x.com/robert_zubrin/status/
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:53:32 UTC No. 16274662
>>16274630
Impressionant! With this most recent rocket, France has in a single stroke marked the decline of SpaceX and spelled a new era of wondrous prosperity and peaceful space dominance for the European bull.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:53:48 UTC No. 16274663
>>16274656
does Challenger count?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:54:05 UTC No. 16274664
>>16274656
Challenger
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:54:09 UTC No. 16274665
>>16274656
good question. I presume there were early Space Age failures due to ground winds, upper level wind shear, and lightning. Why else would they add those weather rules?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:54:27 UTC No. 16274667
>>16274656
yeah, a lot more of them would fail if they weren't such weather autists these days https://www.orlandosentinel.com/198
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:55:09 UTC No. 16274668
>>16274647
>Height
10m taller
>Diameter
Same
Can get stuff to GEO, SSO and LTO though
Astranon at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:55:36 UTC No. 16274669
>>16274656
One of the early Astra Rocket 3 launch attempts from Kodiak almost failed because the water in the GSE pipes froze solid and they had to send guys out into an Alaskan winter night to heat them up.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:57:51 UTC No. 16274673
>>16274623
I'm not a nerd like you all. I watch euro 2024 like every other normal people
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:58:42 UTC No. 16274674
>Ariane 6 64 gross weight: 2 million lbs
>Starship gross weight: 11 million lbs
It was over before it even began
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:59:29 UTC No. 16274675
1 minute
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:59:50 UTC No. 16274676
I'm scared
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:59:56 UTC No. 16274678
On onboard cams, I guess?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 18:59:56 UTC No. 16274679
>>16274623
Looks like we're a go, good luck Eurobros
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:00:03 UTC No. 16274680
>>16274674
I don't think A6 was ever advertised as superheavy launch vehicle but alright dude
Astranon at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:00:04 UTC No. 16274681
>ESA put the chat into subscribers only mode
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:00:11 UTC No. 16274682
>ariana 6 control room
>full of black people
Lol it's going to blow up.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:00:27 UTC No. 16274684
>>16274681
kwab
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:00:39 UTC No. 16274685
>>16274644
>(((Diffusion officielle)))
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:00:49 UTC No. 16274686
go go ariane 6
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:01:03 UTC No. 16274687
>>16274674
Starship is almost double the height of Ariane 6 and a bit more than 50% higher diameter
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:01:04 UTC No. 16274688
DECOLLAGE
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:01:04 UTC No. 16274689
Launch right at the start of the French Euro match
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:01:07 UTC No. 16274690
What a disgusting language
Can't believe Napoleon spoke this shit
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:01:28 UTC No. 16274692
hon hon hon le nominale
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:01:31 UTC No. 16274693
SHUT UP, BITCH
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:01:59 UTC No. 16274695
LE NOMINAL
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:02:18 UTC No. 16274697
trajectoire nominale
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:02:27 UTC No. 16274698
>ESA sticker peeling off
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:03:06 UTC No. 16274700
Is it just me or is the rocket wiggling too much? Oh well it survived BECO at least.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:03:15 UTC No. 16274702
>Clear mentioned
!
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:03:21 UTC No. 16274704
when boosters coming back
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:03:22 UTC No. 16274705
propulsion nominale
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:03:44 UTC No. 16274706
>>16274700
It's the camera. They didn't get one of those fancy turrets like those boomers use for NASA launches
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:04:20 UTC No. 16274708
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:04:26 UTC No. 16274709
hat separated
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:04:39 UTC No. 16274710
DU LA QUAF
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:04:48 UTC No. 16274711
séparation de la kwaf
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:05:18 UTC No. 16274713
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:05:22 UTC No. 16274714
>>16274704
there would be less jobs if we made reusable rockets
t. ariane/esa
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:05:22 UTC No. 16274715
french is such a funny language
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:05:27 UTC No. 16274716
>european space agency
>it's actually french
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:05:34 UTC No. 16274717
C'EST NOMINALE
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:05:51 UTC No. 16274718
french people belong in space
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:05:56 UTC No. 16274720
>>16274699
https://youtu.be/frc-MaJCvrc?si=7JC
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:06:21 UTC No. 16274723
>they actually STOPPED using a common bulkhead but didn't attempt reusability
the absolute state of yurp
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:06:30 UTC No. 16274724
That thing is pointing nearly straight up, how bad is its TWR
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:06:50 UTC No. 16274725
>>16274718
To save the French people they must take to the stars and escape this gay Earth.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:07:32 UTC No. 16274726
>>16274724
you're assuming ESA's renders have any correspondence to reality
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:08:00 UTC No. 16274728
>>16274724
Hydrogen garbage.
Reminder that isp is almost irrelevant compared to gravity loss and this a second stage.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:08:09 UTC No. 16274729
>>16274725
>save the French people
stfu frog
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:08:23 UTC No. 16274730
They should get starlink
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:09:00 UTC No. 16274731
GOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAL
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:09:08 UTC No. 16274732
>>16274724
Hydromeme
but yeah seems to be a ridiculously steep trajectory
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:09:25 UTC No. 16274733
stage sep
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:10:05 UTC No. 16274734
nice glow
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:10:15 UTC No. 16274735
Propulsiòn nominal.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:10:17 UTC No. 16274736
the guy shouting in french sounds like he had a massive stroke that left him unable to speak
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:10:22 UTC No. 16274737
>>16274716
My country contributes 1.6% of ESA budget, we can into space!
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:10:34 UTC No. 16274738
>>16274736
He's black so that makes sense.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:11:29 UTC No. 16274741
>>16274716
>european space agency
>it's actually french
>launch from south america
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:11:51 UTC No. 16274742
Upper stage is low energy as fuck.
It looks even weaker than centaur.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:11:58 UTC No. 16274743
>>16274741
Righful French clay.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:12:29 UTC No. 16274744
>>16274737
300 mil subsidy per launch to Arianespace
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:12:33 UTC No. 16274745
>>16274743
just like Africans and Arabs are rightful French citizens
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:12:37 UTC No. 16274746
>>16274741
French Guiana is actual French territory, it's in the EU and everything.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:13:08 UTC No. 16274749
ma bite nominal
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:13:11 UTC No. 16274750
>>16274745
Exactly. The world belongs to France.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:13:27 UTC No. 16274752
>>16274742
so weak, that it loses altitude by design, just like Ariane 5
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:13:29 UTC No. 16274753
>preparing reusable demonstrators
when did F9 land the first time again? 8 years ago? lmao
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:13:53 UTC No. 16274754
>>16274742
get your facts straight, piss TWR and dropping 120km during second stage burn is the hallmark of a HIGH ENERGY ARCHITECTURE
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:14:12 UTC No. 16274756
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:15:13 UTC No. 16274758
>>16274756
where'd you get this photo of me celebrating the successful launch?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:15:15 UTC No. 16274759
Wait hold up, Ariane 5 couldn't reignite its upper stage in flight? American upper stages have been relighting in flight since the 60s.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:15:37 UTC No. 16274760
>>16274742
Chamber pressure is 60 bar.
Raptor is just an extreme outlier because they need to be very optimal to get any payload up at all.
Space is actually very easy if you're fully expendable
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:15:38 UTC No. 16274761
>>16274756
Beautiful picture of the Emperor and his subjects.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:16:00 UTC No. 16274762
when your rocket takes so long to reach LEO that you have to run multiple ads to keep your audience from getting bored
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:16:35 UTC No. 16274764
>>16274761
"Beautiful picture of the Emperor (left) and his subjects."
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:17:02 UTC No. 16274765
>first F9 landing was in 2015
utterly grim
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:17:06 UTC No. 16274766
>>16274759
Uhm the best part is no part.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:18:09 UTC No. 16274769
>>16274759
it couldn't reignite its 2nd stage, and relied on a third stage (AVUM) for that fine tuning. I think A6 did away with that stage, now the 2nd stage does it all.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:19:39 UTC No. 16274770
a brisk 18:40 to orbit
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:19:41 UTC No. 16274771
FUCKIGN SHUT UP YOU WHORES
why are they even speaking with that shitty british accent, I thought all the anglonogs got kicked out
jesus fuck if you're gonna have women at least have them speak with a french or german accent
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:19:48 UTC No. 16274772
What was that jumpscare on the camera
Astranon at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:19:51 UTC No. 16274773
>>16274742
>>16274760
The RL10, AJ10, J-2, RS-25, MVac, and RVac are all really fucking good upper stage engines for their sizes. It's a key strength of American rockets. Rocket 3 failed because the upper stage team and Ben Lyon cheaped out too hard with their gay snowman second stage.
>>16274769
QED.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:21:06 UTC No. 16274778
>>16274770
They eat a stunning amount of gravity losses in that thing.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:21:35 UTC No. 16274779
>a fucking LEGO tie-in
>>>/toy/
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:22:34 UTC No. 16274781
>>16274774
It's nice that Arianespace is actually able to provide some onboard views. Ariane 5 never seemed to have those.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:24:02 UTC No. 16274783
>this much dead air
amazing work
presumably the announcers went on strike
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:24:37 UTC No. 16274785
>>16274756
Mmmmm delicious BBC
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:24:50 UTC No. 16274786
so when is payload deployment?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:25:10 UTC No. 16274788
>>16274778
Their sustainer engine Vulcain is basically a single froggy J-2 and the upper stage Vinci is basically a single froggy RL10. It's obscenely under thrusted. You could probably increase payload by going to three engines per stage and maybe widening the diameter a bit, but that would be le expenseef since they're just throwing these things into the ocean every time.
>>16274783
They're in French territory, it's a mandatory 90 minute lunch break.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:26:13 UTC No. 16274789
>>16274774
think of the amount of poor fish and algae that will die when that thing crashes into the ocean, where are the hit pieces?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:26:48 UTC No. 16274791
>>16274786
The announcers don't even come back for another half hour.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:27:08 UTC No. 16274792
https://x.com/wulei2020/status/1810
A moss in desert found to be able to survive in a simulated Mars environment. Drought, radiation, extreme cold.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:27:48 UTC No. 16274793
CHALLENGE: SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT FRANCE
IMPOSSIBLE MODE: DON'T USE PAST TENSE
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:28:05 UTC No. 16274794
>>16274792
And the atmosphere?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:28:46 UTC No. 16274795
>>16274783
After having endured so many thankful superchat readings dead air feels like a blessing
>>16274788
It's under-thusted because of Ariane's high efficiency hydrogen sustained philosophy. The Vinci itself is actually a 180 kN engine which puts it at about double the RL-10s average thrust.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:28:54 UTC No. 16274796
>>16274399
How reliable is Starlink? Will Elon send angry letters to me for pirating Japanimation?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:29:10 UTC No. 16274797
I fucking love how Arianes just GO FUCKING FAST right from the get go
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:29:15 UTC No. 16274798
>>16274788
The Vinci is about twice the thrust of an RL-10. The RL-10 based vehicles are even worse, apparently.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:29:43 UTC No. 16274800
>>16274792
不如地衣吧
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:30:13 UTC No. 16274801
>>16274785
nobody gonna mention this?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:30:22 UTC No. 16274802
>>16274793
they make good cheese i think(I've never had it)
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:30:27 UTC No. 16274803
>>16274795
>It's under-thusted because of Ariane's high efficiency hydrogen sustained philosophy. The Vinci itself is actually a 180 kN engine which puts it at about double the RL-10s average thrust.
That's a fancy way of saying they use the boosters to throw the thing upward and use the upper stage almost exclusively for horizontal velocity.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:31:32 UTC No. 16274805
>>16274794
Well, it will likely be in an enclosed green house environment that may have to deal with extreme cold/radiation/drought from time to time. Not necessarily be exposed to the atmosphere itself
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:31:52 UTC No. 16274807
>>16274793
i like daft punk
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:32:13 UTC No. 16274809
>>16274801
Everyone knows Macron is a scoundrel, and nobody cares because the French are too cowardly and beholden, too owned by non-French interests, and far too proud to admit it.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:32:24 UTC No. 16274810
>>16274798
The RL-10 has been comfortable with only having ~100 kN of performance for the last thirty years. America just doesn't need more than that, and if it does it can buy a second engine.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:32:43 UTC No. 16274811
>>16274793
Paris syndrome is funny
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:33:25 UTC No. 16274813
>>16274798
This really makes the ICPS inexcusable as a separate stage. Screw the AJ10, just bolt the fucking RL10 and tanks on to Orion as part of the service module.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:33:50 UTC No. 16274814
>>16274807
>>16274793
I like the french female singer from Stereolab
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:33:57 UTC No. 16274815
>>16274810
If you imagine America's space program remaining as it has been for the past 30 years, sure, an RL-10 powered upper stage is more than enough for the standard paradigm of LEO to GEO satellites.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:34:18 UTC No. 16274816
>>16274716
I mean, yeah? They're only engineers over there worth the title of engineer.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:35:46 UTC No. 16274818
>>16274816
Not Germans?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:38:49 UTC No. 16274829
>>16274815
They thought about up-gunning the Exploration Upper Stage with a cluster of Vincis, but decided that would be giving the Euros too much participation. Four RL-10C-3s is more than enough for a lunar mission anyway.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:39:40 UTC No. 16274830
>>16274829
Or they could do a single J-2X
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:40:18 UTC No. 16274832
>>16274814
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e1
for me it's the cernettes
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:41:18 UTC No. 16274835
>>16274818
Can Germans do a fighter jet engine? No they can't. In Europe, only the UK and France are able to. Only a select few countries in the world have the expertise. The ones with elite engineers.
There, you have your answer.
They are very good in other areas though, I'll take German logistics any time of the day. It requires a specific kind of autism, but one that's needed.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:42:43 UTC No. 16274837
>>16274830
That would be expensive and new and scary. The RL-10 is always available and always reliable. Just add more RL-10s.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:43:25 UTC No. 16274838
this is extremely boring desu
why don't these fags use starlink
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:46:24 UTC No. 16274844
>>16274838
for the same reason the rocket exists at all
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:47:32 UTC No. 16274846
at least with the indian launches you can make benchod jokes, this is just dead air
what are these faggots getting paid for?
no timeline, no commentary lmao
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:47:50 UTC No. 16274848
>>16274807
yeah, French electronic music is pretty great
Air and French 87 are good also
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:48:29 UTC No. 16274850
>>16274797
>heavy lift rocket
>payload of 2 cubesats
I sure hope it lept off the pad.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:48:56 UTC No. 16274851
>>16274844
that being?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:49:10 UTC No. 16274852
>>16274846
Watch the correct stream.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:49:26 UTC No. 16274853
>>16274835
I'm sure they could if they had the money to burn and years to spend to develop expertise. Siemens is pretty big in gas and steam turbines and they're producing top notch stuff. It's not nearly the same, but they wouldn't be starting from zero.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:49:52 UTC No. 16274856
>>16274850
it's just medium now, no better than a Soyuz
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:49:57 UTC No. 16274857
>>16274851
European idiocy.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:50:53 UTC No. 16274859
>>16274850
Medium lift. The 64 is the heavy lifter, and only barely a heavy at that.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:51:07 UTC No. 16274860
>>16274830
That implies the J-2X exists.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:52:23 UTC No. 16274863
>>16274851
to not depend on the amerimutts, chinks, indians, ruskies or any other retards to send our shit to space.
it was impossible to do it when the war started in Ukraine (yes, even with Ariane 5) because the ESA was using Soyuz.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:53:09 UTC No. 16274865
>>16274860
They finished development of the damn thing, they just never put it into production.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:53:52 UTC No. 16274866
>>16274843
nice
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:54:32 UTC No. 16274868
>>16274852
Even she can't make this interesting
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:54:56 UTC No. 16274870
>>16274863
aren't the parts built in several different european countries?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:56:23 UTC No. 16274874
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:57:02 UTC No. 16274875
>>16274874
looks like a good way to achieve independence!
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:57:45 UTC No. 16274877
>>16274874
these are just the main components
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:57:50 UTC No. 16274878
>>16274870
>>16274875
It's a European rocket retard.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:58:26 UTC No. 16274879
>>16274874
This is why they'll never catch up to SpaceX or even the Chinese. This bureaucratic jobs program makes everything slower and more expensive.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 19:59:29 UTC No. 16274881
>>16274878
>independent of 3 countries
>dependent on 27 countries
seems reasonable
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:00:06 UTC No. 16274882
That altitude profile is disgusting
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:00:12 UTC No. 16274883
>>16274874
what a mess
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:00:34 UTC No. 16274884
>>16274878
You're right. Now they can just build this thing and send payloads to space free of any political interference.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:01:25 UTC No. 16274886
>>16274881
It's jointly built, so effectively the country is one.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:02:22 UTC No. 16274888
>>16274623
> Disposable rocket
Oh, isn't that precious!
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:02:56 UTC No. 16274889
>NASA got some cubesats on this flight
They trusted Ariane 6 as much as Rocket 3 kek.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:03:22 UTC No. 16274890
I don't hate this that much.
It's way less egregious than the SLS.
The innovative vehicles will come from RFA and other startups.
Brieschenk is way less delusional than Kemp and not a drug addict either.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:03:30 UTC No. 16274891
>>16274870
the important bits are French, the launch base is French, etc...
the real reason why the ESA is more French than German boils down to history, basically the French wanted an independant space program, the Germans didn't want to spend too much money on it and thought (wrongly) that it wouldn't work, so they bailed near the end but France managed to reach space and since that time we managed to keep all the talented/intelligent space engineers in France and because we spent so much money developing a space program, we'll never give it to anyone else, it's a collaboration to the French space program more than anything.
Germs also did the same for the European fighter jet and we made the Rafale to prove them wrong.
same for the civilian nuclear program.(and we also made our own nukes while we were at it).
Germans are retarded, more news at 11
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:04:03 UTC No. 16274893
>>16274623
Goddamn it feels good to be European
It may not be the best rocket, but at least it means we don't have to be reliant on a foreign billionaire who holds contempt for us (and indeed for everybody who isn't him)
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:04:22 UTC No. 16274894
>>16274874
what is worse, this or SLS?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:05:13 UTC No. 16274895
>>16274894
Just look at $/kg.
It's SLS by a large margin
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:06:20 UTC No. 16274898
what's in the cube ?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:06:24 UTC No. 16274900
3,000 years of European history has lead up to this moment
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:07:37 UTC No. 16274904
>>16274893
>he has money therefor he's bad
>What? How dare you question that, what about his [whatever bullshit promulgated by mass media and the normie sphere of the internet]?
It's not an informed position, but at least it's not a clear indication of Elon Derangement Syndrome
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:07:45 UTC No. 16274905
>>16274898
fragments of a meteorite
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:08:12 UTC No. 16274906
>>16274891
>the Germans didn't want to spend too much money on it and thought (wrongly) that it wouldn't work
>Germs also did the same for the European fighter jet and we made the Rafale to prove them wrong
The Germans participated in the Eurofighter Typhoon though, so it's not like they refused to invest in a fighter jet of any kind. And you could say that collaborating with other European countries was a good idea. Share the costs, and benefit from a bigger pool of engineering talent.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:08:27 UTC No. 16274907
>>16274905
>return to sender
>asteroid sample return return mission
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:08:58 UTC No. 16274909
>>16274894
It's not even a contest.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:09:05 UTC No. 16274911
Payload separation nominal.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:09:12 UTC No. 16274912
>>16274904
>>he has money therefor he's bad
Absolutely not. Money alone doesn't make someone bad. A person's behaviour is what makes them bad, regardless of how much money they have.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:09:59 UTC No. 16274913
>>16274900
and the United States put man on the Moon in less than 200 years
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:10:07 UTC No. 16274914
>>16274909
holy shit
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:11:12 UTC No. 16274917
>>16274912
And yet, the first thing everyone critical towards him always opens with is that he's a billionaire (derogatory).
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:14:08 UTC No. 16274921
dropkick communists into trash compactors
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:15:31 UTC No. 16274924
>>16274909
Imagine having to coordinate this shit
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:15:42 UTC No. 16274925
>>16274835
they had fighter jet engines in the 40s
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:17:04 UTC No. 16274929
>>16274835
>German logistics
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:18:27 UTC No. 16274930
>>16274909
more useful government jobs program than occupying the middle east for 20 years.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:19:45 UTC No. 16274932
>>16274930
I would say that is arguable
if the west went full blown imperialism and colonialism again, at least the shithole nations would have stable governments
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:20:29 UTC No. 16274935
>>16274835
>german logistics
Anon, I...
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:21:14 UTC No. 16274936
>>16274924
Please never look into what it takes to build a car or a washing machine or whatever.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:24:26 UTC No. 16274942
>>16274906
the Germs didn't want a fighter that could carry a nuclear payload or take off from a carrier, because when you do a "joint" program with them they only think about their own asses more than anything (cheap and not too hard to build).
funny story because they did the same shit with the new joint franco-german fighter (no nuclear payload and not being able to take off from a carrier), so the project was in a dead end and it was probably going to be carried dy Dassault alone (as usual) but then the Ukrainian war happened and Germs became scared because France is the only European country to have the nuke, so they greenlit the project.
yes, Germans are THAT retarded.
just like the time when they shut down their nuclear power plants on a whim after Fukushima and said nuclear is "le bad" and then their nuclear scientists fucked off to France or elsewhere, so now Germs don't have anyone competent anymore, if they ever want to build nuclear power plants again they will be forced to buy French lol.
oh and btw it's almost always France that comes up with joint programs with Germans because why not but the Germs always fuck everything up.
we still have the other joint tank project but who knows how they will mess up this time.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:24:58 UTC No. 16274944
>>16274936
Shit comparison.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:25:49 UTC No. 16274947
>>16274944
Based retard.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:29:21 UTC No. 16274949
>>16274942
And how are the exports of Leclerc vs Leopard 2?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:34:21 UTC No. 16274961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmi
>You know engineering tradeoff analysis
short eager video about tradeoff analysis
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:34:24 UTC No. 16274963
>>16274947
Cringe pseud
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:35:29 UTC No. 16274964
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:36:39 UTC No. 16274965
>>16274949
almost non-existent, the reason being we don't build Leclerc tanks anymore (only upgrade them), hence why we're making a new tank with the Germans.
the state's budget for the army is mainly going to the new fighter, the new tank and the new aircraft carrier that will have a normal catapult for a while and then an electromagnetic catapult like the US has once we can make it.
only the new carrier isn't a joint project.
maybe there's a new sub too because we built nuclear subs from time to time but it's a secret anyway so we wouldn't know.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:40:46 UTC No. 16274970
>>16274835
germans are known for their logistics, right
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:44:37 UTC No. 16274976
>>16274917
That other anon is stupid, billionaires didn't get to where they are by being nice people.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:45:16 UTC No. 16274977
>>16274961
what's it about?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:50:15 UTC No. 16274982
>>16274976
Nobody who ever did anything of great impact on the world did so by being nice. That includes the names you associate with soft revolutionary power: Martin Luther King and Mahatma Gandhi were the soft voices behind the bigger, violent sticks making the same demands.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:52:34 UTC No. 16274985
>>16274965
>maybe there's a new sub too because we built nuclear subs from time to time but it's a secret anyway so we wouldn't know.
(this is why you lost the Australian sub deal)
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:52:55 UTC No. 16274986
>>16274891
>the real reason why the ESA is more French than German boils down to history, basically the French wanted an independent space program, the Germans didn't want to spend too much money on it and thought (wrongly) that it wouldn't work, so they bailed near the end but France managed to reach space
This is not historically accurate. Germany had no part in Diamant. If you're talking about Ariane (which was not France's first launcher), the Germans were a partner from the beginning. They never left.
>>16274942
>the Germs didn't want a fighter that could carry a nuclear payload or take off from a carrier
You seem to be forgetting Britain, Spain and Italy. None of whom wanted a carrier based aircraft. Hence why they left to start the Eurofighter collaboration, without everyone else paying for requirements that only France wanted.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 20:55:32 UTC No. 16274992
>>16274989
Both the rocket and the jet in this picture are privately owned and operated.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:02:07 UTC No. 16275001
>>16274985
we lost the deal because the eternal anglo (australia) is only loyal to another eternal anglo (the USA).
first they wanted nuclear subs, we said okay, then they changed their minds and wanted diesel subs in nuclear subs hulls (lol wut), we said maybe but 'think about it before we do it", then they backstabbed us for the US, now they got nothing and the US told them the subs they promised aren't a priority anymore and they need the subs for their own army, lol.
>>16274986
>They never left.
they almost left because the launch where France succeeded was the "last" launch before Germs were going to quit the project.
>without everyone else paying for requirements that only France wanted.
sure, but this is why the eurotrash is garbage and anglos are still using A FUCKING RAMP.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:07:22 UTC No. 16275009
>>16274976
Elon seems like a nice guy
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:08:50 UTC No. 16275010
>>16274917
>pointing out someone's wealth is derogatory
Lmao. So you think having lots of money is a bad thing? Okay, if you say so
>>16274976
Get fucked
Sure, perhaps being a billionaire means you're inherently a cunt (even if you just inherit billions, you could give a lot of it away). But still, some are better than others.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:11:47 UTC No. 16275012
>>16275010
>Lmao. So you think having lots of money is a bad thing? Okay, if you say so
If the first thing you point to when criticizing a man is their wealth, YOU think having lots of money is a bad thing. Work on your reading comprehension.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:16:54 UTC No. 16275019
>>16274989
>>16274992
I love old f-15s
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:17:48 UTC No. 16275022
>>16275019
The first one is a Dassault Rafale, the second is an F-86 Sabre.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:18:04 UTC No. 16275023
>>16275001
>they almost left because the launch where France succeeded was the "last" launch before Germs were going to quit the project.
And do you have a refernce for this.
>sure, but this is why the eurotrash is garbage and anglos are still using A FUCKING RAMP.
Anglos are now flying F-35's off their new two carriers. Where is CDG? In its natural habitat of course, in dock. Really effective having one carrier that is occasionally at sea, especially when it's older than your prime minister. I'd say it worked out quite well for the UK.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:19:41 UTC No. 16275027
>>16275023
CDG is actually more useful than the bong carriers for now because the bongoloids spent so much money on the flat tops they forgot to build all the escort vessels, so they can only sail protected by the USN.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:20:58 UTC No. 16275029
>>16275027
Back to >>>/pol/ptg retard
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:22:22 UTC No. 16275031
>>16275029
back to port, carrierlet
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:32:32 UTC No. 16275043
>>16275023
>And do you have a refernce for this.
Europa II, Europa III and after this France decided to use their L3S because the anglos lowered their funding from 38.79% to 27%, then they put their money on their owned MAROTS maritime satellite, the Germs put their money on the SpaceLab module that was to be carried with the American shuttle, and obviously the USA tried to put an end to the space program, but it failed because France wanted Europe to be independant from the Americans, so the Ariane project was born.
and obviously the Ariane project was mostly funded and controlled by France.
we put 60% of the budget on the table and promised to pay 120% exceedance of the project.
Ariane was designed by the CNES (French) and the industrial power to build it by "l'Aérospatial".
now you know why it's the French space program.
we believed in it when the others didn't care anymore.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:35:39 UTC No. 16275048
>>16275027
Bullshit again. French navy has 10 destroyers, 5 useful frigates. Royal Navy has 6 destroyers and 9 frigates. It is true that it's easier to protect a carrier that never leaves dock.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:38:18 UTC No. 16275050
>>16275023
>Where is CDG?
if you didn't know, the CDG is being modernised right now, it will go back to sea from time to time and will be ready between 2027 and 2028.
and building of the other carrier is starting around 2038 (studies start in 2027) and it will NOT have a FUCKING RAMP with F35 that can be remotely disabled by the US and where you have to pay 10 thousands billions for spare parts (only if you do the USA bidding otherwise you get NOTHING).
the propency of the other Europoor countries to sell their independence to the USA is baffling. and they are proud of being bitches, kek.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:39:42 UTC No. 16275053
>>16275049
APU shut down after course deviation. Mission control is analyzing the data.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:40:23 UTC No. 16275055
>>16275050
Impressive, very nice. Let's see France's stealth VTOL.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:40:32 UTC No. 16275056
>>16275049
Even the failures are flat and unexciting like everything else about ariane 6.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:41:01 UTC No. 16275057
>>16275051
I swear NASA's cubesat directorate is cursed.
>LV0010 / TROPICS-1
>Artemis 1
>now this
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:41:19 UTC No. 16275058
>>16275043
That's not a reference for Germany threatening to withdraw from Ariane.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:41:37 UTC No. 16275059
>>16275051
so the second stage failed like with H3
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:44:09 UTC No. 16275062
>>16275059
The H3 failure was non-ignition of the second stage. This is a failure later in flight after one of the relights, so it was significantly more successful, if suboptimal.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:45:10 UTC No. 16275066
>>16275062
Oh, they also failed to deploy a few of the payloads, so add that to the list.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:46:12 UTC No. 16275068
>>16275063
Burritos.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:48:20 UTC No. 16275072
>>16275051
It's not so easy in rocketry!
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:49:44 UTC No. 16275076
>>16275057
no this is vindication for NASA screwing over Orbcomm during CRS-1
get fucked, karma's a bitch
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:52:42 UTC No. 16275081
Imagine not having independent access to the cosmos
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:53:01 UTC No. 16275082
>>16275079
fags
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 21:58:42 UTC No. 16275091
>>16275063
bix nood
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:00:11 UTC No. 16275094
>FUCKING CREDITS
what the fuck ESA I don't want to sit through your catering for an epic post-credits scene.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:12:32 UTC No. 16275113
>an anomaly has occurred
>*credits roll*
Lmao beautiful great work Europe
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:15:18 UTC No. 16275119
>>16275050
>if you didn't know, the CDG is being modernised right now
It's always being worked on, that's the problem. And the fact it basically always has to return to France means most of it's "patrols" are of the fucking mediterranean.
> building of the other carrier is starting around 2038
Fucking lel. CDG will be a rust bucket. This must be Macron's decision, I hear he likes his women with extra barnacles.
>ith F35 that can be remotely disabled by the US and where you have to pay 10 thousands billions for spare parts
As opposed to paying 5-10 billion developing a carrier, so you can build one. And then spending hundreds of billions to develop aircraft, that no serious country wants. France, Egypt, India and Greece. And the next 20 years of French foreign diplomacy is "hello, would you like to buy our airplanes"? Pro-tip, if things get so bad that the US would even want to disable it's allies planes (assuming it is even possible), the world will be so fucked that a few planes aren't going to sort it.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:17:35 UTC No. 16275127
>>16275123
>>16275118
looks so clean, what changed?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:18:19 UTC No. 16275128
>>16275118
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1810776
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:18:19 UTC No. 16275129
>>16275127
Built and welded indoors.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:18:30 UTC No. 16275130
>>16275127
No hotstage
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:23:02 UTC No. 16275136
>>16275118
>>16275121
this looks like a circa 2005 windows desktop background
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:23:27 UTC No. 16275138
>>16274661
zub-zub-zubbity-zoooooo
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:25:36 UTC No. 16275139
> To get the resources he needed to meet a particularly infeasible pace, Moline recalls a manager telling him he should act more like a selfish child. Given that kind of guidance from superiors, it’s easier to understand how some employees ended up using their work email to coordinate rounds of “nug and chug,” a drinking game that required them to scarf down large helpings of chicken nuggets. But that didn’t make it any less scary, Holland-Thielen says, when colleagues chuckled about drinking heavily and then heading back to the office to oversee a launch.
based
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:27:30 UTC No. 16275140
>>16275139
>Karen doesn't like it when people act outside the veneer of professional expectations
Shock.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:28:40 UTC No. 16275142
>>16274661
As based as they get
NSWR supremacy. If we have to we'll build it deep in the belt.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:29:01 UTC No. 16275144
>>16274893
>a foreign billionaire who holds contempt for us
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:30:17 UTC No. 16275147
>>16274893
Like spoiled milk kek
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:31:18 UTC No. 16275148
Press conference live right now
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:31:37 UTC No. 16275149
>>16275145
UNE ANOMALIE
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:31:41 UTC No. 16275150
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:32:02 UTC No. 16275151
>>16274942
>if they ever want to build nuclear power plants again they will be forced to buy French lol.
Will they ship the new nuclear power plants via Belgium?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:32:10 UTC No. 16275152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfN
Cope conference
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:34:05 UTC No. 16275155
>>16275139
Certainly a comfy lifestyle.
Look I do not make fun of boomers and euros for being happy with big-paying jobs w/ minimal work. I’m envious/jealous of this.
It’s the fact that they act so surprised when they get leapfrogged by better widgets (in this case rockets/rides to orbit) that are cheaper and more powerful.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:38:06 UTC No. 16275162
>Europe is b-ACK
>There was no issue with the flight chronology
>We need to congratulate this success
My countrymen are embarrassing me with this coping
>Ariane 6 upper stage dumping prop over Hungary
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:39:41 UTC No. 16275164
>>16275155
I don't even know where this euro garbage mindset comes from.
I grew up here and I don't have it yet I see it in so many people around me.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:40:46 UTC No. 16275166
Traniane bros how do we recover from this humiliation?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:44:31 UTC No. 16275173
>>16275166
This was the expected outcome (for me). Europe is a non-entity in space.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:44:58 UTC No. 16275174
French accent english is actually insane
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:45:22 UTC No. 16275176
>>16275162
Did they extract the clip yet?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:46:20 UTC No. 16275178
>>16275152
>Do I have to speak english?
lol
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:49:19 UTC No. 16275185
>>16275174
It's cool and cute
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:49:37 UTC No. 16275187
>>16274710
coiffe
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:51:10 UTC No. 16275191
>>16275178
all you need to understand is "le cope" because that's all they will be saying
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:51:41 UTC No. 16275193
Why is everyone acting as if Ariane 6 is the first time Europe (France) has had access to space?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:55:38 UTC No. 16275198
>how long will the analysis of the data take?
>panel chuckles
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:56:25 UTC No. 16275200
>>16275198
lmao
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 22:58:42 UTC No. 16275203
>>16275185
only when spoken by women from Quebec
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:01:11 UTC No. 16275205
>>16275193
The last Vega launch was nine months ago and the last Ariane 5 launch was over a year ago. These days people act like it's a big deal when we go four or five days without a launch. Launches from Kourou feel like something that happened in a prior decade.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:05:52 UTC No. 16275211
Meanwhile, in India
https://x.com/ISROSpaceflight/statu
>ISRO successfully completed the second short duration (2.5 sec) ignition test of the SCE-200 Pre-Burner Ignition Test Article (PITA) on May 21.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:06:30 UTC No. 16275212
>>16275211
imagine the smell
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:07:35 UTC No. 16275215
https://x.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/
>So. They all downplayed the second stage anomaly as if it didn't happen. Excited Europe is back in space. Next Ariane 6 launch in December. One Vega and one Vega-C before that.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:07:36 UTC No. 16275216
put it on the list of gigabux government rocket projects that will launch twice a year
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:08:02 UTC No. 16275217
>two launches this year
>six launches next year
this is the power of french productivity
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:08:04 UTC No. 16275218
>>16275211
saaaarrrrrrrrrr
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:09:51 UTC No. 16275221
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:13:43 UTC No. 16275227
>>16274448
>>16274133
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/09/gra
>The space station modules Gravitics is designing range from 3 meters (9 feet) to 8 meters (26 feet) in diameter. The largest module, which the company boasts will have the “largest interior volume in a standalone spacecraft,” is dubbed StarMax, a name inspired by SpaceX’s towering Starship rocket.
>The Axiom deal is a catalyst for Gravitics’ growth, Doughan said, as the company plans to double its head count in the coming months and kick off a new round of fundraising.
just started reading this, its going to be some kind of frankestein monster station I guess
modules that are F9 class from Axiom themselves and then adding on Starship-class modules from Gravitics
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:15:20 UTC No. 16275228
>>16275222
>"I just really wanted to not get harassed at work."
Bullshit. These people live for being oppressed. If no one is willing to do it they'll manufacture a delusion where it's happening anyway
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:15:39 UTC No. 16275229
So was the launch a success and injection a failure? Was it carrying any real payload or just a boilerplate?
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:16:44 UTC No. 16275231
>>16275222
Absolutely SEETHING lmao
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:18:02 UTC No. 16275233
>>16275229
the re-light failed in some way, but in the press conference they said the previous sections of the flight means the system should be able to do missions like Ariane 5 did (including the one that was moved from Ariane 6 to SpaceX recently)
so it depends what kind of injection you are going for I guess
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:18:10 UTC No. 16275234
>>16275222
>Let's fix Earth so we don't have to go to Mars
So you're not welcome at SpaceX. You don't support the mission, you in fact oppose it.
>I'm so mad that it's actually working
Many such cases!
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:20:06 UTC No. 16275236
>>16275229
Partial success/failure. The initial launch went fine, but the second stage wasn't able to perform all the maneuvers needed to deploy all the payloads and is probably going to have an uncontrolled reentry. It was carrying a few sets of cubesats, a pair of reentry test capsules, and some attached instrument packages.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:21:05 UTC No. 16275237
>>16275234
If they don't support making life multiplanetary they need to get the fuck out of the space industry in every regard.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:22:20 UTC No. 16275241
>>16275236
So deploy all the payloads you fucking retarded europeans.
Doesn't matter if it's a slightly wrong orbit the customers are happier than being stuck to the rocket. You absolute monkeys.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:24:35 UTC No. 16275243
>>16275236
I thought most payloads got deployed and just the 2 reentry capsules are stuck.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:26:19 UTC No. 16275245
>>16275128
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18108
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:27:33 UTC No. 16275248
>NASA: they are not trapped in space
>ESA: it wasn't a failure
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:30:54 UTC No. 16275255
>>16275248
>SpaceX: nothing blew up after landing
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:35:48 UTC No. 16275264
>>16275222
checked
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:37:34 UTC No. 16275265
>>16275243
There's no really much point to a reentry capsule without having a deorbit burn, but it is going to make the eventual uncontrolled reentry a lot more interesting
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:37:59 UTC No. 16275267
>>16275243
>esa
>re-entry
sars please understand, space is hard, can not reuse, must keep peoples employed
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:43:35 UTC No. 16275274
>>16275222
>nooo, why does NASA still work with them
>..acktually, we do kinda need to book falcon rides too
topkek
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:47:00 UTC No. 16275278
>>16275222
These kind of people need to die
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:47:34 UTC No. 16275279
>>16275237
It's not even a company with plans to do anything about saving the earth they just make weather satellites for Space Force.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:49:31 UTC No. 16275280
>>16275150
Reminder that NASA/SLS needs a $1B transporter and Alabama river rock road
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:50:39 UTC No. 16275284
>>16275280
so? it’s free to NASA and it’s a fraction of a penny to you
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:53:21 UTC No. 16275291
>>16275279
If the person wants to keep us trapped on Earth, they have no business being involved with the space industry.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:54:17 UTC No. 16275294
>>16275279
don't you get their masterplan?
>build climate research sats
>???
>earth saved
>mars colony obsolete
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:54:42 UTC No. 16275296
>>16275280
The thing they roll out is like 7000 tons.
This is 200 tons of rocket and maybe another 100 for the stand.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:55:12 UTC No. 16275297
>>16275174
It's not an accent, we just refuse to say the words the English took from us with their bastardized pronunciation
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:57:24 UTC No. 16275300
>>16275297
perma-tantrum lmao
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:57:24 UTC No. 16275301
>>16275150
what are those strakes along the sides? I don't remember those before.
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:59:22 UTC No. 16275303
>>16275292
>easy
4 gen fighter requiring drop tanks to stay airborne and an expendable rocket being dumped into the ocean. europe at its best
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 00:00:11 UTC No. 16275304
>>16275301
For glide ratio and covering COPVs and the huge ass CO2 bottles for purging the skirt. And they have Starlinks on top of them.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 00:06:37 UTC No. 16275314
>>16275294
Mars isn't a hedge against global warming, it's a hedge against super-volcanoes, meteors, and dumbfuck politicians.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 00:08:17 UTC No. 16275316
>>16275296
The weight of SLS' two SRBs together is approximately 1452 metric tons.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 00:09:06 UTC No. 16275317
>>16275316
Plus the very large steel tower and the launch mount.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 00:13:34 UTC No. 16275323
>>16275317
Quite a bit more than that, apparently: roughly 7598 metric tons just for the mobile launch platform and tower. https://www.rsandh.com/projects/mob
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 00:14:38 UTC No. 16275327
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 00:18:33 UTC No. 16275336
Has Ariane 6 burnt up yet?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 00:24:58 UTC No. 16275341
>>16275164
Its the result of "social democracy". Too many gibs, too easy lifestyle breeds complacency.
Of course its unsustainable, everyone stops putting in effort and shit ends up falling apart.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 00:25:28 UTC No. 16275342
>>16275222
Entire article and lawsuit and interview is just cope after seething cope holy fuck
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 00:30:44 UTC No. 16275351
>>16275304
neat, Super Heavy is still evolving. One of the advantages of a hardware-rich development cycle.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 00:45:24 UTC No. 16275367
why does the space community give a platform to that far left anti-spacex journalist lauren gush? why isnt she being silenced and pushed out for being a threat to humanity?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 00:51:43 UTC No. 16275380
>>16275367
Because only mass media has the power to "deplatform" people, and the mass media /is/ far left.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 00:57:57 UTC No. 16275386
>>16275229
All orbital payloads were succesfuly deployed after a first restart, S2 shat itself after deployment and couldn’t do the second restart for the deorbit, and therefore couldn’t deploy the suborbital payloads
Next launch is supposedly unaffected by this partial failure since they don’t need restarts.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 00:59:17 UTC No. 16275389
>>16275241
Remaining payloads were suborbital reentry capsules, they’re useless in that stable orbit.
However there are a few instruments stuck on the S2 that will probably work for longer kek
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 01:03:36 UTC No. 16275394
>>16275176
Yup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDM
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 01:10:17 UTC No. 16275398
https://x.com/ArianeGroup/status/10
>Today, we are going to meet Fabien who oversees and coordinates the development and qualification of the Ariane 6 APU system! But what is an APU? Here is the answer
In case you wanted to know who to blame, here's Fabian
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 01:21:20 UTC No. 16275407
>>16275398
ONE JOB FABIEN
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 01:47:08 UTC No. 16275436
>>16275274
typical woman thinking in action
She goes and gets some fake cushy government funded "start up" where they respect her pronouns and facial piercings....
then claims vague abuses in the past
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 01:49:20 UTC No. 16275443
>>16275323
sounds like some ass backwards designing that could have been avoided if they just didn't use solid boosters
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 01:54:47 UTC No. 16275451
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 01:54:56 UTC No. 16275452
>>16275443
The goal of Artemis was to continue spending a sum equal to the Shuttle program's yearly budget on Shuttle program subcontractors. Not using SRBs was never an option.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 02:32:51 UTC No. 16275492
>>16275351
Anon the strakes have been there since the first flight. Super Heavy is still evolving but the existence of the strakes is not a sign of that.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 02:37:08 UTC No. 16275497
>Ariane 6 lifted off when the France – Spain match started
>The moment the final whistle was blown with France eliminated, it started veering off course
BRAVO STÉPHANE, absolute kino
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 02:39:42 UTC No. 16275500
>>16275497
starship blew up 100 times and every falcon 9 ever made blew up
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 02:50:18 UTC No. 16275507
>>16275497
Yeah that was something, insane coincidences, I think the 9 min 1st France goal was scored just at 2nd stage separation too
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 03:04:50 UTC No. 16275519
>>16275222
>holland-thielan can't believe she's not the main character
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 03:17:25 UTC No. 16275528
>>16274773
I thought it failed because the founder eats lead paint chips
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 03:20:34 UTC No. 16275530
>>16274835
anon, if you want logistics the only ones who can help you are the Americans
Astranon at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 03:40:16 UTC No. 16275545
>>16275528
No, Chris likes uppers, not leaded paint.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 03:42:21 UTC No. 16275547
>>16275530
It's true. There are entire developed countries with weaker logistical systems than individual US states or companies.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 03:43:26 UTC No. 16275549
>>16275547
example the federal government of the united states
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 04:09:47 UTC No. 16275566
Ok no but seriously why has spacex not picked up the plasma magnet sails guy. Is this really never going to get tested.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 04:13:14 UTC No. 16275568
>>16275566
SpaceX isn't interested in wasting time or money with schitzotech
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 04:15:26 UTC No. 16275569
>>16275568
It's not schizotech though, everything looks good on paper and has been validated in the lab.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 04:18:24 UTC No. 16275571
>>16275566
Their architecture doesn't depend on it. The bigger question is when Helios kickstages on Starship get cheap enough for someone else to fund a mission.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 04:20:21 UTC No. 16275573
>>16275569
If it's that good then why isn't anyone interested in it?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 04:35:03 UTC No. 16275579
https://x.com/Peter_J_Beck/status/1
>Successful ignition system tests completed today as the team marches towards hot fires.
Well, it's something. Nice album cover of a prefire test
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 05:23:37 UTC No. 16275602
ARGON DEPOTS
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 05:28:17 UTC No. 16275606
I think my Dragon V2 fantasy might finally become reality
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 05:33:43 UTC No. 16275608
>>16275579
>"Please buy my stocks! I'm begging you!"
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 06:03:38 UTC No. 16275623
>>16274661
The paper was done by undergrads. It's decent analysis, but the phase change model is a bit suspicious. To simplify analysis, they removed a neutron reflector, even though basic analysis shows it matters. NSWRs aren't over yet. There's also the super secret fissile ramjet approach. You suspend fissiles in a gas and compress them using shockwaves so they go critical, sort of like a ramjet.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 06:31:49 UTC No. 16275652
>>16275196
And what is that law?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 06:37:32 UTC No. 16275657
So did the Ariane-6 fail or not? Since the APU isn't behaving as predicted it seems unwise to do a second launch with a real payload so soon.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 06:38:12 UTC No. 16275659
>>16275222
>"...but I'm so mad that it's actually working."
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 07:46:07 UTC No. 16275698
>>16275657
didn't blow up. didn't reach the target orbit. that's all there really is to it. easier to fix the latter than former probably so that's good for them.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 07:58:13 UTC No. 16275705
i desperately wish i could absorb zubrin's sweat into my skin. i want to inhale his pheromones. his aroma is intoxicating. i dream of him feeling my body with rubbery hands. run my fingers through his arm hair. if i ever meet him this will happen
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 08:19:44 UTC No. 16275723
>>16275705
>how to give him Orgasm with your fingers
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 08:21:36 UTC No. 16275724
>>16275723
Elon needs to make follows private next
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 08:34:49 UTC No. 16275737
>>16275150
holy fuck that factory is god damn big
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 09:50:07 UTC No. 16275786
>>16275657
Next launch won't require a relight and APU relight so they have the go ahead.
Wll probably still be delayed tho.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 10:19:06 UTC No. 16275799
>>16275222
>I'm so mad it's actually working.
God I hope more seethe this good comes out of the trial.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 10:35:10 UTC No. 16275808
>>16275657
> fails restart
> can't complete payload deployment
> can't deorbit. stranded in space.
It didn't blow up. Give it that.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 10:42:57 UTC No. 16275816
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18108
I guess its this article
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/07/
>SpaceX’s Assault on a Fragile Habitat: Four Takeaways From Our Investigation
>The development of Elon Musk’s facility in South Texas did not play out as local officials were originally told it would.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 10:44:16 UTC No. 16275817
>>16275816
>More concerning, the planned launch site was next door to one of the most important migratory bird habitats in North America. And the nearby Boca Chica beach serves as a breeding ground for Kemp’s ridleys, the world’s most endangered species of sea turtle.
oh no not the birds and turtles
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 10:47:44 UTC No. 16275819
>>16275808
It did all the basic rocket shit fine, it got into space and got the normal payloads into orbit. It just failed the more advanced stuff, plus it'll burn up eventually I assume so it's not really stranded.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 10:49:46 UTC No. 16275821
>>16275817
so many misrepresentations here, either by ignorance or malice (who knows)
>The industrial growth has caused so much congestion along the tiny two-lane road into Boca Chica that some of the now 3,400 SpaceX employees and contract employees get to work by hovercraft.
the hovercraft is for convenience, not congestion
>SpaceX also began testing Starship, a rocket that dwarfs the largest version of the Falcon and weighs nearly four times as much.
explicitly don't mention its the largest and most powerful rocket ever, kind of funny they have to tread the line here
saying its big and causes destruction, but can't say its the biggest ever because that could be seen as positive
>In April 2023, SpaceX executed its first full-scale test launch of a Starship. But the rocket malfunctioned, and a self-destruct mechanism eventually caused it to explode. Steel sheets, concrete chunks and shrapnel were hurled thousands of feet into the air, then slammed into the bird habitat as well as onto the nearby state park and beach. One concrete piece was found 2,680 feet from the launch site — far outside the zone where the F.A.A. had thought damage could occur.
implying the rocket exploded and caused this debris, and not the launchpad itself exploding (which might sound very cool)
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 10:57:53 UTC No. 16275826
>>16275817
>oh no not the birds and turtles
fuck the beetles though
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 10:58:12 UTC No. 16275827
>>16275821
in today's age ignorance is way more likely, people just like to think it's malice so they can defend "their guy"
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 10:58:36 UTC No. 16275828
https://arstechnica.com/science/202
>I've covered SpaceX for a decade and a half now, and it's almost always been 'rockets this and spacecraft that.' But at the end of the day, Starlink has made the most dramatic impact on my life at this moment. It's also pretty weird to use something that I've written about in the abstract.
Eric Berger tells about his Beryl experience and buying a starlink dish
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 11:02:55 UTC No. 16275831
https://spacenews.com/house-introdu
>The bill would formally authorize $25.225 billion in funding for NASA in fiscal year 2025, a figure between the administration’s request of $25.384 billion and the $25.179 billion included in a bill approved by the House Appropriations Committee July 9. The key purpose of the bill, though, is to address a wide range of NASA programs and policies.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 11:04:05 UTC No. 16275832
>>16275831
>A report from NASA on the studies it has done in the last five years on reboosting or servicing the Hubble Space Telescope; and
I wonder if this is going to be public? Jared Isaacman has talked about the study being done but couldn't (or didn't want to) talk about the specifics too much
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 11:06:23 UTC No. 16275835
>>16275832
>assessment of non-NASA demand for the SLS
how much are they paying for that? they can just pay me instead, I already know
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 11:13:25 UTC No. 16275840
https://spacenews.com/japanese-vent
>TOKYO — A Japanese conglomerate has established a new subsidiary seeking to develop a module that could be installed on future commercial space stations.
>The new venture, called Japan LEO Shachu, Inc., is a wholly owned subsidiary of Mitsui & Co. that was formally established on July 1, its chief executive, Yudai Yamamoto, said in a July 9 presentation at the Spacetide conference here.
>Mitsui also invested in commercial space station developer Axiom Space in 2021.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 11:14:26 UTC No. 16275842
>>16275840
>The concept that Japan LEO Shachu is pursuing is the “Japan Module,” a module based on technologies developed for the HTV and new HTV-X cargo spacecraft. The module would include a pressurized area for research, manufacturing and other applications, as well as an external platform for additional payloads. The module will also have its own system for high-bandwidth communications.
pic is from
https://humans-in-space.jaxa.jp/en/
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 11:40:29 UTC No. 16275875
Just had a thought, once the mars colony gets making fuel, how long before they try a landing on phobos and/or deimos?
A fully fueled starship on the ground just barely has the deltav to do a phobos landing in one go, deimos would require an orbital refueling but if you do that you can do both phobos and deimos in the same mission.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 11:48:11 UTC No. 16275883
>>16275875
I've been thinking about this sort of thing lately. If there's an actual city building effort on Mars, will any resources be spared for exploration missions? Once Mars is fully industrialized in a century or so, pretty much all exploration missions will be way easier. I wonder how the priorities will shake out
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 11:52:47 UTC No. 16275889
>>16275883
It really depends on how much fuel they have lying around. The colony would need enough supplies on hand to send starships back to earth anyways and compared to the return trip to earth a phobos and deimos mission is trivial, the only issue is the fueled needed to do it which is pretty close to the deltav needed to do earth return in one go, which also requires 1 orbital refueling.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 12:01:46 UTC No. 16275894
>>16275875
There really isn't any incentive to go to the moons of Mars other than to say you've been there. They're just cold shitty rocks.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 12:04:20 UTC No. 16275896
>>16275894
>why do white people climb mountains
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 12:21:01 UTC No. 16275909
>>16275894
>to say you've been there
You speak as if this isn't the most valid of reasons to go.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 12:40:54 UTC No. 16275924
>>16275909
>You speak as if
This is an imageboard, m'lady.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 12:59:19 UTC No. 16275950
>>16275816
https://archive.is/mrQO6
NIGGER
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 13:01:39 UTC No. 16275953
>>16275883
With cyclers all things are possible
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 13:05:53 UTC No. 16275960
>>16275950
>An investigation by The New York Times shows
Why do newspapers talk about themselves in the 3rd person?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 13:09:36 UTC No. 16275966
>>16275953
I don't see the connection
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 13:11:33 UTC No. 16275970
>>16275924
>he can't hear other anon's voices when reading their text
Rotate an apple internally
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 13:21:35 UTC No. 16275985
>>16275933
Yes. Next thread should be a SF edition. FINALLY SOME HAPPENINGS
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 13:32:29 UTC No. 16275997
>>16275222
>and having no accountability is kind of Eon's thing
what the fuck? he's probably the most accountable billionaire CEO out there (low bar, but still)
these people live in their own reality with made up boogeymen
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 13:58:09 UTC No. 16276010
modi seems real cosy with putin. can we expect a space deal out of their meetings?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:01:48 UTC No. 16276013
>>16275492
don't know how I missed the chines before. First noticed a while ago:
https://youtu.be/G4ebfRG16nM?t=653
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:08:45 UTC No. 16276019
>>16276013
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chine
lel stealth boosters, the beetles won't know what hit them
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:10:16 UTC No. 16276022
>>16276010
if there was any chance of that india wouldn't have signed up for the artemis accords
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:10:48 UTC No. 16276023
What happened to A6? Was it success or not
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:11:36 UTC No. 16276024
>>16276023
partial success
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:11:57 UTC No. 16276025
>>16276023
Partial success. Boosters and first stage worked. Second stage failed to relight after first burn.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:12:53 UTC No. 16276028
>>16276023
Failure, but at least we got nice photos.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:25:56 UTC No. 16276035
>>16276030
Is this real?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:27:13 UTC No. 16276037
>>16276035
a6 booster just landed in my garden
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:28:39 UTC No. 16276038
>>16275398
>Added complexity to a hydrogen boondoggle
Doomed to fail from the start.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:28:47 UTC No. 16276039
>>16276023
Partial success. It's capable of handling Ariane 5-style missions that don't need complex maneuvers later in flight. It'll be able to launch the next payload in the queue without needing any fixes.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:33:52 UTC No. 16276043
>>16276025
I thought it reignited fine for the circularization burn before cubesat deployment. It was the third burn that failed.
Really, is anyone surprised that the major new tech on this flight failed? (an APU)
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:34:13 UTC No. 16276044
>>16276038
It needed that if it was going to be able to cover the missions that the Soyuz-ST/fregat used to carry. Being able to perform direct injection GEO missions would have let it compete for some missions that used to default to flying on the Proton too. Most of these points haven't been valid in a decade.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:37:20 UTC No. 16276049
hello as you all know Australia is a pretty dry place and part of the reason is that it lacks tall mountains which would cause the water vapor to condense and fall down as rainfall. I'm doing a geoengineering feasibility study on essentially putting a kilometer tall pile of rocks and rubble on an existing Australian mountain to make it taller which would then catch more rain. Do you think this is feasible. My current cost estimate for this project is a couple of billion.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:45:35 UTC No. 16276056
>>16276052
I am very excited about Europa but even more excited about an even more important future mission(Dragonfly). I am looking forward to getting higher resolution images of the several hundred meter tall sheer ice cliffs of Europa as well as learning more about the geologic features and mechanisms of Europa and the depth of the ice crust and under-ice ocean.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:54:08 UTC No. 16276064
>>16275828
Houston got rocked hard. Our grid infrastructure is ass, and it keeps happening every time we get a rough storm. A cat 3 or 4 (not to mention a category 5 ugh) would decimate the city, and leave a majority or the city without power or internet for probably three to four weeks (!!)
$120/mo is a steep asking price for internet but I might just bite the bullet and commit. Starlink and a generac and you’re golden
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:57:20 UTC No. 16276068
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:58:22 UTC No. 16276069
>>16276064
I don't think you need to be subscribed perpetually, just buy a mini for backup and then activate it if you need to
though I don't think they are selling minis widely yet
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:59:15 UTC No. 16276070
>>16276049
It would probably be cheaper and easier to dig swales spanning the continent and wait a century also not space flight
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:00:29 UTC No. 16276073
>>16276049
>>16276052
>THIS is the ChatGPT that's supposed to take over blueprinting, design and calculation tasks
Awful. I'm glad that humans will be in charge of any Mars missions in the future.
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:02:13 UTC No. 16276074
>>16276069
just flood the interior of australia with channels and make a inner sea
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:02:30 UTC No. 16276075
>>16276073
Some people are just retarded or illiterate. You need to rework your internal bot filter
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:04:20 UTC No. 16276077
>>16276070
just flood the interior of australia with channels and make a inner sea
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:05:04 UTC No. 16276079
>>16276074
We could enlarge this lake
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_
it's already below sea level.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:13:40 UTC No. 16276085
>>16276077
Project Plowshare can accomplish this
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:23:52 UTC No. 16276088
https://x.com/ISROSpaceflight/statu
>ISRO has proposed an uncrewed cargo resupply mission using Gaganyaan to the International Space Station, to its partner nations! It'll take place on LVM3-G4, i.e. the 4th uncrewed Gaganyaan flight following the 3 uncrewed testflights & the first crewed mission.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:26:25 UTC No. 16276089
>>16275808
Surrenderchads, I kneel
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:27:37 UTC No. 16276090
https://www.virgingalactic.com/news
>Virgin Galactic Holdings, Inc. today announced the completion of its new manufacturing facility in Phoenix, Arizona, where final assembly of its next-generation Delta spaceships is scheduled to take place starting in Q1 2025.
>An initial team of Virgin Galactic technical operations and manufacturing personnel has begun preparing the facility to receive and install tooling, expected to arrive in Q4 2024. The facility will then begin to receive major subassemblies, including the wing, the fuselage, and the feathering system next year, as the team scales to build the first two ships of the Delta fleet. Once ground testing in Phoenix is complete, Virgin Galactic’s mothership will ferry completed spaceships to Spaceport America, New Mexico for flight test ahead of commercial operations, which are expected to begin in 2026.
The future of spaceflight circa 2004, arriving in 2026
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:33:03 UTC No. 16276094
>>16276085
extreme kino
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:33:22 UTC No. 16276095
>>16275808
It will deorbit, one day.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:36:38 UTC No. 16276098
>>16276095
It's in a 550 km orbit. That shit is going to be up there for fifty years.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:43:50 UTC No. 16276103
>>16276102
wtf is this real
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:45:33 UTC No. 16276104
>>16276102
hemispherical gyroscope on the run
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:52:30 UTC No. 16276106
>>16276102
Is... is any one else kinda turned on by this?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 15:57:44 UTC No. 16276109
>>16276102
Good thing they’re going to recover and refly that to save time and money.
oh wait
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:00:04 UTC No. 16276110
>>16276103
Fairings aren't always the sturdiest with forces they aren't meeting nose first. Here's some onboard footage from a Progress launch back in 2022.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:04:28 UTC No. 16276111
>>16276109
If they're only planning on a max of nine launches per year expendable fairings might be the cheaper option. Designing splashdown capable fairings isn't cheap and you'd still need to invest in the boat to recover them afterwards.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:09:23 UTC No. 16276114
>>16276088
is this the result of the modi-putin meeting? the indian cargo ship will dock at the russian segment of the iss?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:10:22 UTC No. 16276116
>>16276111
Everyone knows the hardest part of developing a rocket is acquiring the sort of boat/net combo that's accessible by even the poorest southeast asians
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:13:20 UTC No. 16276117
Payload failure = mission failure
Upper stage failed
Thats all there is to it.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:14:30 UTC No. 16276118
>>16276110
kino
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:15:30 UTC No. 16276120
>>16276117
what if there is no payload?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:17:27 UTC No. 16276124
>>16276120
Upper stage failure.
Partial success/failure
Whatever you wanna call it
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:22:18 UTC No. 16276131
how do we cope about the string of recent Ariane rocket failures
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:22:59 UTC No. 16276133
>>16276131
by being American
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:23:51 UTC No. 16276134
>>16276117
It wasn't a mission to deliver payloads however, so the status of the payload is meaningless, it was a mission to qualify the launcher, at that the two first phase (launch to orbit, and restart+separation were perfect and the third one (in orbit capability demonstration + deorbt burn) largely failed, BUT it qualified the launcher for operations,therefore it's arguably a partial success.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:26:01 UTC No. 16276139
>>16276114
There's a lot of open questions around this. Gaganyaan doesn't have an official docking system yet. The one that's sketched in for the Bharatiya Antariksha Station looks like it's copying the western IDSS instead of the Russian SSVP system, but if Gaganyaan does use a Russia-comparable design it'd be able to dodge the congestion on the western side of the station.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:38:36 UTC No. 16276150
Anyone following the Boing teleconference for Starliner?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:41:46 UTC No. 16276152
https://www.youtube.com/live/PAIZHh
>Thruster temps not were the team were targeting
>Hoping to send the He leak on a flange to the Star liner management team
>Looking into swelling due to Hypergol exposure
>Starliner still good for emergency
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:47:06 UTC No. 16276160
>>16276116
southeast asians don't take their boats out into the middle of the north atlantic ocean, don't need to comply with the Jones act, and don't need to pay their sailors a living wage in a first world country
I guess France only has to worry about one of those things, though
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:48:04 UTC No. 16276161
>>16276152
>Starliner still good for emergency
LMAO. So they're literally gonna have to go on a Dragon since there's no emergency
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:50:04 UTC No. 16276163
Would you sacrifice the lives of some astronauts to fuck over Boeing?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:55:37 UTC No. 16276168
>>16276163
Obviously not since they're fucking themselves over without any intervention
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 16:59:31 UTC No. 16276173
>>16276163
Boeing would
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:01:51 UTC No. 16276174
>>16276163
I don’t really want butch and sunni to die for boeing, but more than that I don’t want the hit the entire rest of human spaceflight would take if astronauts die.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:03:51 UTC No. 16276176
qrd on the Boing capsule? Is it still docked to the ISS and if yes will it reenter with humans inside?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:09:10 UTC No. 16276183
>>16276163
If Boeing fucks up and kills Butch and Suni then the Starliner program is finished. If Boeing fucks up and kills the crew of Artemis II SLS dies as well. Some paths have better outcomes than others.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:12:43 UTC No. 16276186
>>16276183
Orion and SLS are bad even if they are instrumental for the moon landing.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:16:01 UTC No. 16276187
>tich says they have "dusted off" some of the potential contingency concepts to use Crew Dragon as a backup, as they did when looking at how to bring NASA astronaut Frank Rubio home. However, the prime plan is still to return Butch and Suni on Starliner, which was declared
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:16:35 UTC No. 16276189
>>16276150
https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status
>Stich opens his remarks noting that a number of members of the Johnson Space Center workforce in Houston were impacted by Hurricane Beryl and are without power. JSC is functioning though. He said the storm has impacted the ability of some to work, but says they are still making progress.
>Stich says the hot fire testing at the White Sands Test Facility in New Mexico is underway. He said they put the thruster in the chamber on July 3 and did an acceptance test with that thruster. He said it has been put through all the uphill phases of the flight (part of the mission from spacecraft separation through rendezvous and docking) and are looking at the data before moving to the downhill portion (return from ISS to Earth).
>Stich says they hope to bring the helium leak up to the Starliner mission management team for resolution later this week. He says teams have been working to understand the issue at MFS in Huntsville, AL. He said they are also looking at Service Module 2, which was used for the first set of attempts for Orbital Flight Test 2.
>Nappi says the chief engineers on both the NASA and Boeing side are engaged and engineering teams are meeting daily to work on these issues (thrusters and helium leaks). He says they are doing some inspection work on the service module that will be used on the Starliner-1
>NASA's Steve Siceloff confirms that there will be another press briefing with the crew on orbit before they undock. Details on that are in work.
>Stich says they are still targeting launch of the Crew-9 mission in mid-August and want to have a crew handover with Crew-8 before they depart. They think that an undocking by the end of July is possible, but they will "just follow the data each step at a time."
>Stich says the batteries are the current limiting item. They were approved for a 45-day limit and that is being assessed. The CFT mission is on day 35 today.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:17:39 UTC No. 16276191
>>16276189
>Nappi clarifies that the work being done at White Sands is not acceptance testing, rather it's trying to replicate what the "worst case thruster saw in flight." Stich says they trying to replicate the pulses that the on-orbit thrusters saw.
>Stich says there's an injector temperature measurement, which is what they are trying to replicate. It was measured during the docking day from the five thrusters that presented some issue.
>Nappi said the service module that will fly on Starliner-1 is put together and the doghouses are installed on the SM. He said they are doing a series of leak checks to see if it may be susceptible to a leak, like the ones seen on the SM being used for the CFT mission. He says based on the testing and determination of root cause, they may need to take the doghouses off and replace some seals that may be undersized.
>Stich says the data from the flight shows that with the exception of the one thruster that didn't recover during the CFT docking, those thrusters are operating "just fine." "The prime option today is to return Butch and Suni on Starliner." Nappi says the plan is to bring the crew home on Starliner and "we see no reason why that should be changed."
>Stich says all 12 OMAC thrusters are working just fine, saying that they will provide the delta V for the deorbit maneuver. They are more critically important than the reaction control system (RCS) thrusters, which are being studied at White Sands.
>Nappi says, if the crew needed to return now in an emergency scenario, they would "just perform a nominal undocking," adding that "we don't believe that we have damaged thrusters." He says "we do have a lot of confidence in the thrusters as they are today." Stich says even if they lose many of the same thrusters as they did during rendezvous and docking, the simulation data shows that they could still hit their target landing site.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:21:50 UTC No. 16276194
>>16276186
I wouldn't mind them spending a shuttle program budget on shuttle contractors if we could get a shuttle program flight rate at the end of it. STS managed six flights per year between Challenger and Columbia, and did about three/year after that. If we could get four launches per year for about a billion dollars each we'd have enough for crew rotations for a continuously crewed lunar outpost and still have a rocket or two left over for something like an outer planets probe or interstellar object interceptor.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:28:13 UTC No. 16276199
"Beck doesn't tell the media about RL's advancements. Maybe he should, it will help the stock price"
>Starts sharing news
>Stock starts slowly going up
>>16275608
>"Please buy my stocks! I'm begging you!"
>3 cocks fall out of ass
There's no making you trannies happy, is there?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:30:28 UTC No. 16276200
>>16276186
>instrumental for the moon landing
>instrumental
No other rocket in existence or imagined could possibly do what SLS is capable of
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:32:33 UTC No. 16276204
Would you ride on starship FT5, if given the chance?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:32:47 UTC No. 16276205
>>16276200
You are glorifying the rocket.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:33:44 UTC No. 16276207
>>16276204
No, because I'm not confident that it will explode.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:34:37 UTC No. 16276208
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:37:22 UTC No. 16276210
>>16276208
Wasn't this dearmoon's original plan?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:38:08 UTC No. 16276213
>>16275063
>thx god for diversity hires
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:38:09 UTC No. 16276214
>>16276210
No thats cucking in space
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:39:59 UTC No. 16276217
>MSM: ariana 6 succes
>sfg: it's fucked!!
So what is it?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:40:43 UTC No. 16276218
>>16276217
Not great, not terrible.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:40:43 UTC No. 16276219
>>16276210
green diahrea all over big window >:)
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:41:10 UTC No. 16276221
>>16275196
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18110
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:42:03 UTC No. 16276223
>>16276218
So starship levels of fucked up?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:42:59 UTC No. 16276224
>>16276210
Originally. It wouldn't take all that much modification to rework that into a NRHO mission.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:43:04 UTC No. 16276225
>>16276223
*starliner
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:43:14 UTC No. 16276227
>>16276221
I've read some of his books.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:44:36 UTC No. 16276230
>>16276191
>Stich says they have "dusted off" some of the potential contingency concepts to use Crew Dragon as a backup, as they did when looking at how to bring NASA astronaut Frank Rubio home. However, the prime plan is still to return Butch and Suni on Starliner, which was declared safe to be used as an emergency return vehicle.
>Stich says they could entertain the option of undocking the Crew Dragon being used for the SpaceX Crew-8 mission to make room for the Crew-9 astronauts, if more time is needed with Starliner docked at the ISS. He says they started looking at that, but haven't done an extensive assessment on that. He says NASA's preference is still for a direct handover on the ISS between Crew-8 and Crew-9.
>Stich says there have been no discussions with SpaceX regarding sending another Crew Dragon to bring the Starliner CFT astronauts back to Earth.
>That will conclude today's briefing.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:48:50 UTC No. 16276233
https://x.com/neuralink/status/1811
Neuralink update live
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:49:08 UTC No. 16276234
>>16276208
Yeah I was being sarcastic lol. How much modification would crew dragon and falcon heavy really need for this to be possible? I'm guessing it would be cheaper than one SLS launch
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:50:32 UTC No. 16276236
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:50:49 UTC No. 16276237
>>16276230
>Stich says they have "dusted off" some of the potential contingency concepts to use Crew Dragon as a backup
Yup, it's over
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:51:25 UTC No. 16276238
>>16276226
>yeah
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:52:22 UTC No. 16276239
>>16276234
>launch dragon into LEO on a regular RTLS flight
>launch 1 (one) international docking adapter on an expendable falcon heavy, leave it attached to the upper stage
>dock
>go
no RnD required and have roughly 3.6 billion dollars left over afterwards
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:53:00 UTC No. 16276241
>>16276233
>>16276236
spaceflight?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:53:27 UTC No. 16276242
>>16276236
implying they're doing this for disabled people or whatever
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:53:32 UTC No. 16276243
>>16276239
yeah but my congressional district gets no money from that
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:54:58 UTC No. 16276246
>>16276242
Is felon husk really making excuses for the fact that he's experimenting on disabled people?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:55:01 UTC No. 16276247
>>16276243
your congressional district gets to build the international docking adapter for a $3.6billion cost plus contract and everyone goes home happy
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:55:20 UTC No. 16276248
>>16276242
Yes
>>16276241
Useful for manipulating humanoid robots on mars
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:56:24 UTC No. 16276250
>>16276236
lol
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:56:37 UTC No. 16276251
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:58:38 UTC No. 16276255
>>16276239
Dragon is not built to survive coming back from the moon.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 17:59:51 UTC No. 16276259
>>16276255
So what? They can modify it.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 18:02:06 UTC No. 16276262
>>16276255
neither is Orion apparently, didn't hold SLS back
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 18:04:43 UTC No. 16276264
>>16276234
You'd need some kind of service module equivilant. That might involve designing something to replace the trunk or it might just mean using the delta-v package that they were implied to be working on for the ISS deorbit contract. You'd need deep space communications and maybe some modifications for a different thermal environment that the one Dragon gets in LEO, but a lot of the subsystems that would need upgrading would be similar to gear that's going to be carried by Dragon XL, so there's commonality there too. A beefier heat shield would need to be developed and tested, although I heard somewhere that they slimmed down the TPS they used on the first Dragon 2 missions because the original was thicker than it needed to be. A fully expendable Falcon Heavy could probably handle the mission, but it might be simpler to just give FH more performance by stretching the second stage a bit. That'd require re-certifying the design, but a lot of that would be covered in the crew rating paperwork that you're going to do anyway. Then you'd need to build another crew access arm that lines up with the capsule's new height. Modifying existing infrastructure quickly has never been a problem for SpaceX.
There's a fairly long checklist of things that'd need to be done, but a lot of them are either fairly simple or are covered by things SpaceX is already contracted to do for something else. If they wanted to SpaceX could probably roll out Lunar Dragon inside of 48 months without needing any additional funding from NASA or Washington.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 18:11:53 UTC No. 16276269
>>16275960
So when the other dozen news papers copy their homework they don't have to change the text to attribute the original study. They can just copy paste and shuffle some words around, really stick to their normal work flow.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 18:14:47 UTC No. 16276274
>>16276241
You have to be an Elon cultist to post here
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 18:29:15 UTC No. 16276298
>>16276208
that a sexy lookin' ship
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 18:30:41 UTC No. 16276299
>>16276134
Spring boarding off this, does "partial success" or "partial failure" read as more negative? I can see it either way.
The gut reaction is partial failure, as it has failure in the phrase, however I think it comes down to how you interpret partial. If you view it as small i.e. less than 50 percent then "partial failure" would be better, as it would mean only a small part of the overall mission failed, a "partial success" would mean only a small amount of the mission was successful.
However if you read partial as greater than 50 percent, then "partial failure" would be more negative. It could then be read like "mostly failed"
Interested to think about.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 18:32:43 UTC No. 16276302
>>16276298
holy fucking cute, where do you get these?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 18:32:49 UTC No. 16276303
>>16276298
uh, janny's gonna flip
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 18:33:39 UTC No. 16276304
>>16276298
faster, like she's got a stuck thruster
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 18:45:39 UTC No. 16276311
>>16276298
Post the starlink one
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 18:50:40 UTC No. 16276314
>>16275831
>>16275832
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
>There is a fair bit to unpack here, but the inclusion of this section—there is no "reaffirmation" of the Orion spacecraft, for example—suggests that either the legacy space companies building the SLS rocket, local legislators, or both feel the need to protect the SLS rocket. As one source on Capitol Hill familiar with the legislation told Ars, "It's a sign that somebody's afraid."
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 18:53:15 UTC No. 16276315
>>16276314
Yeah sure congress, let me just go find someone willing to front the $3 billion launch cost for a single mission. The free market will love this!
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 18:56:14 UTC No. 16276317
>>16276299
I think the term that's used sets the tone more than the modifier.
https://x.com/planet4589/status/181
>Ariane 6 upper stage was passivated after the second burn, and remains in orbit with the two reentry capsules still attached. I am counting this as 'secondary payload unusable orbit' per https://planet4589.org/space/gcat/w
Jonathan McDowell's got an interesting system for applying values to these sorts of things. Saying that Ariane 6 was "85% successful" feels a bit autistic but it doesn't feel incorrect. It launched, it didn't blow up, it met most but not all of its mission objectives, and as a result it was cleared to launch a lot of the missions it's going to be asked to do in the future. I think most people would call that "partial success" instead of a "partial failure."
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 18:59:35 UTC No. 16276321
>>16276314
i'd love to know if they have any '"cost and schedule savings for reduced transit times" for deep space missions' in mind or if some aide got told that by some boeing lobbyist once years ago and they're brainlessly repeating it now, with no clue how idiotic it makes them look
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:04:53 UTC No. 16276324
>>16276314
>"It's a sign that somebody's afraid."
Good
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:12:36 UTC No. 16276332
>>16276264
so they could do it but would they really learn anything? seems like a waste of engineering resources
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:15:20 UTC No. 16276334
>>16276317
thats is good and in general people need to start looking at these as experiments and not a binary event (success/fail)
companies need to adopt Musks hardware rich approach to speed up technological development in general and the general public needs to understand this too
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:17:40 UTC No. 16276336
>>16276302
>>16276311
>>16276304
Guys i saved that gif from a few threads ago idk where its from
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:26:24 UTC No. 16276347
>>16276311
uoh
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:28:06 UTC No. 16276351
>>16276311
which one
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:30:52 UTC No. 16276355
GOP platform's bit on space:
>Expanding Freedom, Prosperity and Safety in Space Under Republican Leadership, the United States will create a robust Manufacturing Industry in Near Earth Orbit, send American Astronauts back to the Moon, and onward to Mars, and enhance partnerships with the rapidly expanding Commercial Space sector to revolutionize our ability to access, live in, and develop assets in Space.
the line about sending astronauts to the moon and mars is nothing new and will be in the dem platform too. gop platforms have mentioned commercial space in the past but never in terms of habitation. i'm not sure what the manufacturing bit is referring to and it seems strange to lead with that of all things.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:31:20 UTC No. 16276357
>>16276347
>over 5000 of these in orbit currently
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:32:15 UTC No. 16276359
>>16276355
it's just getting out of the way of people like Varda, the Dems were screwing with them
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:34:59 UTC No. 16276363
>>16276298
paizuri from starship chan!
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:35:20 UTC No. 16276364
>>16276355
Space is hot right now and people are being sold the idea of something besides cameras and communication being profitable. Maybe someone caught wind of some startup with an ultimately retarded premise but thought industry=good, who knows
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:36:13 UTC No. 16276366
>>16276102
>Bag Raiders-Shooting Stars.mp3
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:37:59 UTC No. 16276368
>>16276367
I love how instantly you can tell this was written by a woman
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:38:00 UTC No. 16276369
>>16276359
since varda is thiel-backed that'd check out
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:39:14 UTC No. 16276371
>>16276368
>>16276367
it's so s[math]o[/math]y my first thought was that it must have been written by grok
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:40:58 UTC No. 16276375
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:42:02 UTC No. 16276379
>>16276347
>>16276357
they can tell what you're fapping to
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:43:46 UTC No. 16276382
total journalist credibility death
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:01:35 UTC No. 16276408
>>16276233
Second patient next week
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:01:47 UTC No. 16276410
>>16276367
It turns out that outside of places like 4chan "lol fag" is not a sufficient rebuttle.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:02:14 UTC No. 16276412
Why is Elon so cringe?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:03:57 UTC No. 16276417
>>16276367
Musk cares so little that he will probably fire the person who wrote this.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:05:16 UTC No. 16276420
>>16276336
That bellybutton is genius
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:05:41 UTC No. 16276421
>>16276412
Cant be innovative without cringe. You have to break the mold
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:06:56 UTC No. 16276423
>>16276412
Anon he has Aspergers
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:07:38 UTC No. 16276425
>>16276412
born that way
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:11:08 UTC No. 16276433
>>16276332
If SLS or Orion fell apart it'd be an effective way to handle crew transport for Artemis until later options start to come online.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:11:24 UTC No. 16276434
>>16276367
SpaceX isn’t working towards TPD? Has /sfg/ been lying to me?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:12:53 UTC No. 16276437
>>16276434
/sfg/ only talked about TBD
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:13:02 UTC No. 16276438
Elon’s out here tweeting from the official SpaceX account kek he hasn’t done that since like circa 2017
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:13:12 UTC No. 16276439
>>16276347
she's the internet in space!
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:23:04 UTC No. 16276463
>>16276412
He started liking the smell of his own farts too much, he thinks he is meme god now.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:41:41 UTC No. 16276495
>>16276241
Go discuss non-Elon spaceflight in your own thread (there is nothing to discuss)
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:46:39 UTC No. 16276502
>>16276410
>not a sufficient rebuttle
But it is the rebuttal they fucking deserve for this bullshit.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:47:42 UTC No. 16276503
>>16276367
yeah, why did the new york times write an entire essay?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:53:01 UTC No. 16276508
>>16276368
kek, that was literally my first thought
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:57:13 UTC No. 16276516
>>16276367
Guys I don't know what's going on. I searched for starship + piping plover porn and I can't find any. This can't be happening
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 21:00:49 UTC No. 16276520
>>16276367
>>16276375
Can none of you do a proper screenshot
Barkon Approved Post at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 21:01:06 UTC No. 16276521
Gey
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 21:01:46 UTC No. 16276522
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 21:12:50 UTC No. 16276535
>>16276495
Not true! An outdated rocket just fucked up! An outdated spacecraft is stranded! Another outdated rocket is being investigated by the government for being too expensive! There's a lot to talk about without Elon
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 21:13:44 UTC No. 16276538
>>16276298
Whats super heavy chan look like?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 21:17:17 UTC No. 16276544
Now here’s the kicker:
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 21:19:40 UTC No. 16276548
>>16276545
HAVE
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 21:22:23 UTC No. 16276551
what is the wet bulb temperature of the Raptor exhaust.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 21:25:30 UTC No. 16276558
>>16276551
no has ever measured it because it breaks the wet bulb
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 21:26:56 UTC No. 16276561
>>16276548
THE MEAT
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 21:31:57 UTC No. 16276567
>>16275394
>>16275162
that looks fine to me?
>>16276538
there's a couple and they're all ugly
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 21:41:31 UTC No. 16276587
>>16276574
Wow those are some saggy boobs
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 21:42:30 UTC No. 16276590
>>16276587
yeah people keep oversexualizing Super Heavy instead of just making her toob
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 21:43:59 UTC No. 16276594
>>16276590
The entire point of tans is to sexualize inanimate objects.
Super heavy tan should fit the name.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 21:45:02 UTC No. 16276599
>>16276594
do not sex the gijinka (moe anthropomorphizations)
they are for moe not for fugg
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 21:47:17 UTC No. 16276602
>>16276599
>moe is not for fugg
lmao
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 21:50:05 UTC No. 16276606
>>16276587
Yes anon we know you have never seen real boobs out of a bra, let alone one on a woman leaning.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 21:50:49 UTC No. 16276610
Struck a nerve granny?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 21:53:40 UTC No. 16276612
>>16276545
ARE GOING
TO NEED A BIGGER PORK BARREL
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 22:05:32 UTC No. 16276624
>>16276610
No butterscotch candies for you.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 22:44:12 UTC No. 16276655
>>16276412
He's doing it intentionally to manipulate stock price. Behind closed doors he's actually based
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 22:58:41 UTC No. 16276669
>>16276594
Yeah
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:01:00 UTC No. 16276675
next stage
>>16276674
>>16276674
>>16276674
>>16276674
>>16276674
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:05:33 UTC No. 16276679
>>16276233
if the troonsformer ends up not working for giving all these humanoid robots AI could elon neuralink chip third worlders and have them control the bots through starlink?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jul 2024 23:38:47 UTC No. 16276718
>>16276590
the knights-in-shining armor is a good compromise
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:24:27 UTC No. 16276747
>>16276522
gay rocket for gay people literally built in europe by queers