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Anonymous No. 16271105

stranded in space edition.
how much longer will they remain trapped up there?
how will they go back home?

previous >>16268917

Anonymous No. 16271113

First for sheared flow stabilized z-pinch

Anonymous No. 16271116

Second for forcibly rotating spin-stations far beyond their designed limit to fuck with the inhabitants. Get rotated, idiots.

Anonymous No. 16271121

Third for quantized inertia

Anonymous No. 16271125

Shit fuck general.

Anonymous No. 16271126

Fourth for preserving a minimum breeding population of earthers in zoos.

Anonymous No. 16271137

Sixth for the moon wizards

Anonymous No. 16271138

Seventh for Phil Mason's suicide livestream after IFT-5 ends with a successful booster catch

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Anonymous No. 16271142

8th for Saturn-tan

Anonymous No. 16271144

>>16271138
There is no degree of success that can make him reverse course. His goalposts are on wheels.

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Anonymous No. 16271146

10th for paizuri with Starship-chan!

Anonymous No. 16271147

>>16271144
It would be less reversing course and more activating the flight termination system out of shame.
I'm glad he moved to the Czech Republic because it will be really easy for him to find some large powerful gun to blow his face off with.

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Anonymous No. 16271150

look at this dumb retard

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Anonymous No. 16271157

stupid ass

Anonymous No. 16271158

>>16271144
once the ship demonstrates reuse, he'll pivot to economics "shuttle cost hundreds of millions to refurbish", or scale ("they'll never be allowed to launch the dozens of times a year from the cape due to impact to neighbours"

Anonymous No. 16271159

>>16271147
He's in academia, they don't feel shame.
I find it a little incredible that he appears to not have a professorship. He's not tenure track, best I can tell. The man got his doctorate nearly 30 years ago and he's bumming around in someone else's research group.

Anonymous No. 16271161

>>16271159
No wonder he's so mad. He's blown his whole career. Untentured PhDs don't get professor's pensions.

Anonymous No. 16271163

>>16271150
Makes me think of the sperm whale over Magrathea

Anonymous No. 16271174

>>16271146
Enjoy your vacation

Anonymous No. 16271176

>>16271174
I come home tomorrow :(

Anonymous No. 16271179

>>16271159
isn't being a post doc you are supposed to do perhaps 4 years (maybe 8 years if you are really stretching it) before getting an assistant professorship and then tenure to become a professor or staff scientist
if you don't get that, pivot to industry

Anonymous No. 16271185

>>16271179
That's right, unless you're not worth a shit and can't progress in academia or industry. He's like an eternal intern.

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Anonymous No. 16271186

starship is probably going to fail and nearly kill space x as a company

>it can lift like 50 tons to leo in a reusable mode barring miracle fuel / engine developments

>it will never launch shit to GEO or the moon, the amount of refueling necessary is obscene

>it will cost 100 million plus per launch for at least a decade


Its not that it cant launch or land, that should have been demonstrable years ago. its that the entire bfr concept still doesn't escape the basic realities of fuel chemistry and material science determined payload fractions. Making it out of steel fucked up the payload. Making the second stage huge fucked the payload above Leo.

Starship will NEVER get below even $1000 a kg to orbit, elon knows this and is fully blackpilled subconsciously, the entire platform was built for a fantasy launch market that does not exist, its an ideological vanity project that space X doesnt have the ingenuity to make feasible.


Its not about the heatshield, its not about the manufacturing, its about the fact that it doesn't pass the rocket equation satisfactorily at a glance and nobody seems brave enough to talk about this, this fat bitch of a rocket can barely get to orbit rn with ZERO payload.

>inb4 spaceX fans saying everything will be fixed when they double the length of the rocket and obscenely up the engine pressure

Anonymous No. 16271187

Thanks for putting that at the front of your message so I didnt waste my time reading the rest

Anonymous No. 16271190

>>16271186
You're having fun with this fantasy/bait, ain'tcha

Anonymous No. 16271191

>>16271186
You seem to like saying the math doesn't work out, but you post no math.
Interesting.

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Anonymous No. 16271195

>>16271190
>>16271187
I wish it would work too bros, ive loved giant rockets since i was a little kid. But the design has changed and changed again and i think they have firmly lost the thread.


>6-20 refuels for a lunar mission
>test flights can barely reach orbit with no payload
>elon musk himself admits the payload capacity is fucked


The entire mars fantasy is riding on this thing, elon knows it, and it just cant get past the brutality of the rocket equation

Anonymous No. 16271196

>>16271186
refuelling makes your entire post irrelevant
as long as you can get a big fat second stage with large tanks up to LEO in the first place, you can send that same stage literally anywhere in the solar system

Anonymous No. 16271199

>attempts a sympathy
So transparent.

Anonymous No. 16271201

>>16271191
elon himself says it can lift 50 tons, so far it has struggled to lift zero into space

The switch to stainless steel added roughly 50 tons of structural mass, and would you look at that, the touted payload dropped from 100 tons to 50 tons. Then the heatshield got heavier, and redundant systems were added. It can MAYBE do 50 tons to orbit for the foreseeable future, and its current retarded heat shield system leaves it dead in the water as far as reuse goes. I totally believe they can and will fix everything but its inherently god awful mass ratio, i mean the second stage is heavier then a shuttle for gods sake.


Tell me why i am wrong and i will kneel, anon-sama

Anonymous No. 16271206

>>16271201
Besides none of the existing design being set in stone, they aren't even trying to optimize the vehicle's mass yet. You've already backpedaled on "zero payload" but have been trying to keep the doomsaying regardless. It's an in-development system with effectively unlimited authority and budget to change the design in whatever ways are needed to make it work. The V1 ship only exists to be a systems demonstrator.

Anonymous No. 16271207

>>16271199
i want us to go to space, but frankly the best people have left space x and elon is fucking old and losing it from the long decades of stress. He put up an amazing fight but man, you can tell the old boy is getting tired. Like napoleon fighting all his final losing battles with blunt force instead of skill.

Tesla is going to explode because current ai will never deliver self driving that is legally acceptable. Space x is going to be eaten away bit by bit by the Chinese and small rocket startups.

Starship will cost at least 25 billion to develop and i just dont think it will ever do useful work like they dream, not running on known chemistry.

Anonymous No. 16271208

>>16271195
>6-20 refuels for a lunar mission
So? It's just fuel which is basically free.

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Anonymous No. 16271210

>16271207
Trying too hard.

Anonymous No. 16271215

>>16271201
>The switch to stainless steel added roughly 50 tons of structural mass, and would you look at that, the touted payload dropped from 100 tons to 50 tons.
So you can't even remember where you got your own numbers and are talking out your ass, got it.

Anonymous No. 16271216

>>16271206
its 'in development' half a decade past show time. Remember 'mars by 2022'?

even if it was flying missions now the architecture will always be fat and retarded, fighting an exponentially losing battle.

Anonymous No. 16271219

>>16271208
how fucking long are those astronaut jannies going to be left waiting in orbit? A year, for that many launches.

Flights are expensive to staff, labor is like 2/3's of all launch costs. Such a moon mission would make the sls launch architecture seem cheap. Landing an entire starship down on the lunar gravity well is retarded, theres a reason the apollo descent capsule was so fucking small

Goodnight anons, i hope your optimism is just based on something i missed. But i think starship will be remembered forever as an infamous example of organizational bloat.

Anonymous No. 16271224

>>16271201
Beyond every premise here being nonsense, I'll humor you by saying to go compare Falcon 9 v1 to the current-day version

Anonymous No. 16271225

@16271219
good bait honestly, enjoy your evening

Anonymous No. 16271229

>>16271142
why has nobody drawn a LEM rocket gijinka

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Anonymous No. 16271235

Why is PressureFedNigger shitting up my /sfg/?

Anonymous No. 16271242

>>16271235
He's not shitting anything, he's constipated

Anonymous No. 16271264

>>16271219
>how fucking long are those astronaut jannies going to be left waiting in orbit? A year, for that many launches.
They're going to do the refueling before the astronauts even launch, retard.

Anonymous No. 16271267

>>16271142
She needs a V shaped shoulder stripe

Anonymous No. 16271269

>>16271264
And into an accumulator vehicle, at that. The full fuel load will be transferred immediately after launch.

Anonymous No. 16271270

>>16271142
I would like to stick my wood balSa TURN her V-gina into a pulp

Anonymous No. 16271311

>>16271201
why don't they just strap a couple of space shuttle solid rocket boosters to it? they are reusable and all Elon would need to do is fish them out of the sea and refill them like NASA used to

Anonymous No. 16271315

>>16271311
The working phrase isn't reusable, but "rapidly reusable." Refurbishing SRBs is not rapid, and they're only reusable on technicality. It would have been cheaper to just build the SRBs new.

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Anonymous No. 16271341

first ever ariane 6 scrub is officially set for tuesday

Anonymous No. 16271353

ISS should be charging boeing excess docking fees

Anonymous No. 16271362

Houston is going to eat shit from the hurricane. Starbase may have been saved but NASA, axiom, intuitive machines, etc. are in the cross hairs.

Anonymous No. 16271368

>le Elon time meme
Either baiting or retarded, please stop replying to this guy

Anonymous No. 16271371

>>16271219
Man even if we go by pre-assembly line fully expendable prototype test prices, 15 Starship flights is still cheaper than SLS/Orion lmao. 10x cheaper per kg.

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Anonymous No. 16271374

>>16271105
Welcome to the Station California...

You can undock any time you want,
but you can never re-enter!

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Anonymous No. 16271376

>>16271362
rekt
It's not even going to flood Houston, it's just going to slip right in between.

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Anonymous No. 16271386

>>16271385
this is the official flag of mars

Anonymous No. 16271392

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSii82yypug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSii82yypug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSii82yypug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSii82yypug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSii82yypug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSii82yypug

Anonymous No. 16271395

>>16271392
Why post this? Its that guy with mild EDS.

Anonymous No. 16271398

>>16271395
given the sub & view count, I think this might be that guy posting his own videos
>>16271371
>even if we go by pre-assembly line fully expendable prototype test prices, 15 Starship flights is still cheaper than SLS/Orion
There's no way this is true, is it really that bad? Holy shit

Anonymous No. 16271422

>>16271392
he needs to lose weight and not read off a piece of fucking paper

Anonymous No. 16271431

>>16271392
This guy's mannerisms, speaking patterns, and attitudes mirror mine.

I now understand why I have no friends.

Anonymous No. 16271438

>>16271386
also the planet's name has been changed to Mars X

Anonymous No. 16271440

>>16271422
everything about the production makes it feel like he's a time traveler from 2008

Anonymous No. 16271441

>>16271374
My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim, I had to stop for up to 45 days

Anonymous No. 16271461

Reminder, SpaceX isn't profitable.

They aren't profitable because reuse their rockets. If they were profitable, they wouldn't have to reuse their rockets. ITS OVER

Anonymous No. 16271463

>>16271461
well deboonked

Anonymous No. 16271464

>>16271398
>There's no way this is true, is it really that bad? Holy shit
SLS launch cost is 4.1 billion per launch.
Even assuming starship manages a price no better than the falcon launch of around 20 million, a fully refuled starship in LEO costs 300 million, actually less than 1/10 of an SLS launch.

Anonymous No. 16271466

Pressurize tanks with water expanding into ice.

Anonymous No. 16271467

>>16271398
>>16271464
4100 million / 15 = 273 million

Anonymous No. 16271468

>>16271467
Thanks, I hate doing math.

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Anonymous No. 16271475

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS0bM-EGY9w
>Starbase Prepares for Tropical Storm Beryl | SpaceX Boca Chica

whats up with all the retarded bait, haven't read a single post in this thread fully lmao

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>>16271476

Anonymous No. 16271479

>>16271461
this logic is asstounding

Anonymous No. 16271485

>>16271341
I'm excited. This will be fun no matter what happens

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Anonymous No. 16271497

https://x.com/CNSAWatcher/status/1809893733032218885
>The Earth and the Moon in a perfect picture! Chang'e-5-T1 service module photographed in October 2014.

Anonymous No. 16271502

>>16271497
Awesome photo.
Also I hate to be that guy but what is the deal with China and HD photography? Have they not discovered 1080p yet? 4k? Everything is standard definition

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16271509

>>16271341
worst case is total euro humiliation
best case is also total euro humiliation

Anonymous No. 16271511

>>16271341
worst case scenario is a RUD and total euro humiliation
best case scenario is success and total euro humiliation

Anonymous No. 16271512

>>16271392
lol he randomly becomes animated as soon as he talks about the 15 starship launches. Why is he so worked up about SpaceX

Anonymous No. 16271514

>>16271502
>Everything is standard definition
>replying to a post with a 2048x2048 image

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Anonymous No. 16271572

NASA fucked up big time in the PR department by having unisex uniforms when they started flying females. Biggest PR own goal ever just to appease feminists who dont care about space anyway.

Anonymous No. 16271574

>>16271572
it is jarring how much worse this picture is made by the feet

Anonymous No. 16271579

>>16271572
>just to appease feminists
They appeased the sex-negative feminist rather than the sex-positive feminist

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Anonymous No. 16271583

https://x.com/RajdevDhairya/status/1809804956817367060
>How does an aerospace company earns money for their further projects or flights?

https://x.com/torybruno/status/1809959988053352618
>Depends. ULA sells trips to space for a little more than the cost. Some of the profit to our shareholders and the rest for technology development. Others get large outside investment yearly in exchange for promises of future profit. (And are free to charge independent of cost, for nowโ€ฆ)

Well, that's a nice confirmation to have. ULA barely makes any profit on its launches.

Anonymous No. 16271597

>>16271583
No surprise Boeing and LM want sell it.

Anonymous No. 16271622

>>16271597
still very funny to me that US forced the ULA to exist because the fierce competition between Boeing and LM kept leading them to break the law. They were both working so hard but they never tried to just make a better rocket lol. And then a company with way less resources tried to build a better rocket, and is now more valuable than Boeing and Lockheed combined. I love when reality has a punchline

Anonymous No. 16271623

>>16271622
It's because SpaceX wasn't hogtied by decades of "build this part in that Congressional district" pork wrangling and sold launch as a service. Boeing and Lockheed were in the business of selling expendable missiles that sometimes also launched space missions.

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Anonymous No. 16271624

>>16271105
What will it take for NASA/Congress to cancel SLS?

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Anonymous No. 16271628

>>16271624
Starship being NASA rated for lunar/Mars reentry and landing with crew on board. Until that happens, SLS+Orion is the moon(ish) bus.

Anonymous No. 16271633

>>16271624
I would say public outrage over a clear discrepancy with another launch vehicle, if I thought what was happening here was at all within the public understanding

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Anonymous No. 16271636

>>16271624
Dead astronauts. It needs to be something that will make the normie population aware of all of SLS's problems and it needs to be something bad enough that the blame for that will traced back to the people who insisted things be like that. There needs to be more blame that what could just be soaked up by "Boeing incompetence."

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Anonymous No. 16271646

>when the hit-piece delivers unexpected kino

Anonymous No. 16271647

>>16271646
Starship v3 will be slightly taller than the great pyramid

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>>16271646
Even more kino

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Anonymous No. 16271651

>>16271646
when will we get a rocket which exceeeds the great pyramid's weight at liftoff?
better yet wen rocket with a second stage weighing that much wet?

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Anonymous No. 16271653

>>16271646
Wake me up when starship manages to lift 50t into leo.

Anonymous No. 16271654

>>16271646
What did the hitpiece say?

Anonymous No. 16271656

>>16271654
>blahblah muh environment muh commecrudo tribe muh burds muh Musk etc
>is actually really showing how environmental focus and space industry can get along and be in balance
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/07/us/politics/spacex-wildlife-texas.html

Anonymous No. 16271657

>>16271654
That you musktards need to dilate your neovaginas.

Anonymous No. 16271659

>>16271651
The Great Pyramid is about 1,000 times heavier than Starship, so it's safe to say it will be a while (3 weeks)

Anonymous No. 16271662

>>16271656
>Jew Word Crimes
no thank you

Anonymous No. 16271699

>>16271656
>marxist times
LMAO

Anonymous No. 16271700

>>16271656
>local swamp more important than extending life to an entire planet

Anonymous No. 16271706

>>16271650
look how they massacred our Boca Chica

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Anonymous No. 16271713

>>16271706
It's better now

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>YT comment section and here
Where did they create this 50t to orbit max starship bait figure? Seems like a concerted disinfo effort

Anonymous No. 16271735

>>16271730
During a post IFT conference Elon offhandedly said that the test vehicle only does 50 tons because they haven't started on mass optimization and are just trying to make it work. People are of course ignoring the context for the usual reasons and you can pretty much disregard

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>>16271706
Total beetle death!!!

Anonymous No. 16271739

>>16271653
>so i bitch that it's not 100t to the moon
yeah, sounds good.

Anonymous No. 16271741

>>16271730
eager space explains it well
https://youtu.be/oNFdR-UpZS8?t=580
tldr,starship is very sensitive to dry mass. Expect enormous gains with future variants.

Anonymous No. 16271755

>>16271730
Yeah 50 T is way too generous; itโ€™s really closer 40

Anonymous No. 16271758

>>16271755
I heard it was approaching 30

Anonymous No. 16271762

>>16271758
20 is the sweetspot.

Anonymous No. 16271763

Hullo is talking about electro-thermal rockets and how they might use human waste as a propellant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TDCrVwm1W0
Bharat arise!

Anonymous No. 16271765

>>16271739
Deal.
Artemis is retarded on all levels, even a perfectly functional starship couldn't salvage that clusterfuck of a project.

Would be great if I'm wrong tho.

Anonymous No. 16271766

>>16271763
Shartship when?

Anonymous No. 16271767

>>16271762
Does anyone really need to send more than 10 tons to orbit?

Anonymous No. 16271768

>>16271767
9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, we are go for liftoff, launching nothing

Anonymous No. 16271770

>>16271763
pisslock when?

Anonymous No. 16271777

>>16271767
you know what they say - 16 tons and im deeper in debt

Anonymous No. 16271779

>>16271651
That'd require Project Orion or something similar to get a million tons off the ground.

Anonymous No. 16271780

>>16271777
Not with those numbers you're not.

Anonymous No. 16271794

>>16271763
Traumatic insemination, also known as hypodermic insemination, is the mating practice in some species of invertebrates in which the male pierces the female's abdomen with his aedeagus and injects his sperm through the wound into her abdominal cavity (hemocoel). The sperm diffuses through the female's hemolymph, reaching the ovaries and resulting in fertilization.

The process is detrimental to the female's health. It creates an open wound which impairs the female until it heals, and is susceptible to infection. The injection of sperm and ejaculatory fluids into the hemocoel can also trigger an immune reaction in the female. Indians, which reproduce solely by traumatic insemination, have evolved a pair of sperm-receptacles, known as the spermalege. It has been suggested that the spermalege reduces the direct damage to the female Indian during traumatic insemination.

Anonymous No. 16271819

>>16271636
>Nasa patch and israel flag patch on the same uniform
What did nasa mean by this?

Anonymous No. 16271821

>>16271819
Go back

Anonymous No. 16271827

>>16271821
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Anonymous No. 16271829

https://x.com/ISROSpaceflight/status/1809929881104646197
>New details about BAS reveal that it has been expanded to 2x its total mass than earlier plans! (previously 25t, now 52t). Its maximum crew capacity has also been increased to 6 & the normal no. of crew present on BAS will be equal to its previous max capacity of 3-4!

Anonymous No. 16271834

>>16271829
so every space station now until the end of time will just be some form of a salyut station? Besides Skylab, every station has been like this. Mir, ISS, tiangongโ€ฆ

Anonymous No. 16271846

>>16271834
i wish someone would try and big rotating wheel like von braun wanted

Anonymous No. 16271847

>>16271834
I'd say we can expect some minimum viable product cylinder habitats in our lifetime, like the Kalpana One, but the only guy with the capital and motivation to do that hates the only guy with the rockets to do that

Anonymous No. 16271849

>>16271834
American and European commercial designs seem comfortable moving away from DOS-derived architecture, but it's anyone's guess how many of those projects will actually make it to orbit.

I'm a bit more interested in the fact that the station is going to be orbiting at 52d. You could launch missions to it from Baikonur or Vostochny if you had the right docking adapters.

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Anonymous No. 16271886

>>16271646
fuck the wildlife, frankly

Anonymous No. 16271889

>>16271886
>fuck the wildlife
Dont tell the furfags.

Anonymous No. 16271894

>>16271834
Only when they perfect a 3D print&welder that works in space will you see new space station designs.

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Anonymous No. 16271947

>>16271819
NASA tended to universally put their logo patches on the Shuttle flight suits regardless of the nationality of the person wearing them.

Anonymous No. 16271964

>>16271834
BO will save us

Anonymous No. 16271995

>>16271964
Yeah right >>16271847

Anonymous No. 16272000

>>16271829
imagine the terror of the female astronauts on the Axiom space station when they hear this in the distance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La44ebRSy-Y
in space no one can hear you redeem

Anonymous No. 16272007

>>16271829
how many crew can fit on the outside?

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>>16271646

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Anonymous No. 16272046

What is happening now is the least of anything that has ever happened, ever

Anonymous No. 16272055

>>16272046
how is a hurricane a nothingburger lmao

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>>16272046
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

the sky is a bit grayer than usual

Anonymous No. 16272064

its over for starbase

Anonymous No. 16272079

are they going to change long chopsticks to short ones before flight5?

Anonymous No. 16272090

>>16271995
New glenn is coming online this year whether you like it or not. It has the potential to be the best rocket on the planet for the brief window before starship starts flying comercial payloads at which point it becomes the second best but still miles above the competition.

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>>16272018
>>16271646

Anonymous No. 16272119

Just as a reminder it took SpaceX 4 launches to not have the fully stacked Starship blow up, burn up, and crash from a suborbital flight. Meanwhile, SLS put the Orion spacecraft around the Moon for a month and returned it safely on the first launch. So of course SpaceX definitely won't need more than 15 launches to go to the Moon, I'm sure.

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Anonymous No. 16272120

>>16272055
this is literally a light storm for the poor houstonian. >we are punished and used to it

Anonymous No. 16272123

Shartship is finished and you stupid Muskrats refuse to even acknowledge the situation. Polluters always lose and you stupid elon fans arent any different

Anonymous No. 16272126

>>16272123
Trade offer:
I get to โ€œpolluteโ€ a few acres of southern texas marshland.
You get entire planets you can use as ecosystems

Anonymous No. 16272130

>>16272126
if humanity is saved by Musk, I would rather choose extinction t: thunderfoot

Anonymous No. 16272136

>>16272090
What's with this delusion that Blue will try, let alone be successful, with landing New Glenn on its first flight?

Anonymous No. 16272137

>>16272046
This is underwhelming

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Anonymous No. 16272147

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1810088536340562154

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Anonymous No. 16272151

>>16271431

Anonymous No. 16272160

>>16271392
>no discussion just a bunch of links
At least try and concern troll
Buy a fucking ad

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Anonymous No. 16272170

>>16272136
Well they've been landing new shepard for a while. As shown with spacex that gets you a lot of the way there, super heavy only ever failed cause it's engines blew up, not because they fucked up the landing.

Anonymous No. 16272171

>>16272168
ha, that sign can't stop me because I can't read

Anonymous No. 16272175

>>16271186
LEO is where all the money is, retard.

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Anonymous No. 16272181

>>16272126
>You get entire planets you can use as ecosystems
Name a planet other than Mars (dubious in itself) that you can do this with

Anonymous No. 16272183

>>16272181
venus next question

Anonymous No. 16272189

>>16272181
Do moons count?

Anonymous No. 16272193

>>16272181
Luna

Anonymous No. 16272195

>>16272147
Elon being from South Africa really makes his opinion on this much darker. We really could lose it forever

Anonymous No. 16272199

>>16272147
>fermi filter mentioned
Dammit I knew โ€œchief engineerโ€ musk was a pseud lmfao

Anonymous No. 16272201

>>16271648
>>16271650
>>16271652
starbase is so cinematic looking, i cant wait for the inevitable hollywood blockbuster

Anonymous No. 16272202

>>16272181
various exoplanets once we get QI drives or some other interstellar propulsion system

Anonymous No. 16272205

>>16272168
TOP
ASS
GO FARTHER

Anonymous No. 16272207

>>16272199
It's pr speak for "these god damn niggers are going to bring us back to the stone age and we need insurance"

Anonymous No. 16272208

>>16272055
>how is a hurricane a nothingburger lmao
people who dont experience hurricanes regularly think they're a big deal, when they're mostly a nuisance or free holiday break from work for people who regularly experience them. now tornadoes? those are the real deal.

Anonymous No. 16272209

>>16272208
yeah, I live in SC, getting hit with even a mild hurricane is never a nothingburger but it's usually not apocalyptic
just a lot of rain

Anonymous No. 16272215

>>16272199
it accurately describes the situation, doesn't matter if you think the term is overused by your estimation or misused

Anonymous No. 16272216

>>16272189
โ€œmoonsโ€ donโ€™t exist. Some โ€œmoonsโ€ are planets that happen to orbit other planets and some โ€œmoonsโ€ are faggy little asteroids that are only special because theyโ€™re in the right place at the right time.

Anonymous No. 16272218

>>16271646
Elon, please.. just a little bit taller...

Anonymous No. 16272223

>>16272216
Mental gymnastics. Shut up

Anonymous No. 16272225

>>16272216
satellite

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Anonymous No. 16272226

>>16271105

NASA issues press release:
"NASA is pleased Boeing's spaceship did not explode killing everyone in the ISS."

This is like some dystopian-future comedy.

Anonymous No. 16272229

>>16272208
facts

Anonymous No. 16272230

1. Reusable rockets to launch 100,000 unfolding solar shades into solar synchronous orbit over Venus.
2. Venus rapidly radiates its heat into space and most of the dense CO2 atmosphere snows out.
3. Venus surface colonizers pack the dry ice into huge snowballs and fire them off Venus using mass drivers
4. The snowballs collide with Mars, giving Mars a suitable carbon-rich atmosphere with which to start terraforming.

Anonymous No. 16272232

>>16272223
>Do moons count?
satellite planets count because satellite planets are planets. Asteroids donโ€™t count. No need to ask about โ€œmoonsโ€ which are a retarded assortment with little in common.

Anonymous No. 16272233

>>16272230
genuous

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Anonymous No. 16272236

>>16272205

Anonymous No. 16272237

>>16272232
so whatโ€™s the distinction between a โ€œmoonโ€ and a โ€œsatellite planetโ€?
Is Titan a planet by your definition? What about our moon, which is larger and denser than most other solar system bodies

Anonymous No. 16272239

>>16272230
or just keep the CO2 and rain comets on to venus for water, providing planetary scale sabatier conversion

Anonymous No. 16272242

>>16272147
Holy shit is this the first time Musk replied to a Greason post? does he know about the plasma magnet I wonder, that shit could really put SpaceX on top if it works

Anonymous No. 16272247

It's coming home shartliner bros

Anonymous No. 16272250

>>16272247
if a piece hits your house you get a free taco from taco bell!

Anonymous No. 16272251

>>16272237
Titan is very much a planet. It has a better claim to the title than tiny no-geology no-atmosphere Mercury. All the Galilean moons are. As they get smaller it gets blurrier, but I think being in hydrostatic equilibrium, or at least large enough that absent other forces they would be, is a good cutoff point. You can split them into dwarf satellite planets along IAU lines if you like.

Anonymous No. 16272255

>>16272237
Also earthโ€™s moon doesnโ€™t even orbit earth. Itโ€™s a regular planet.

Anonymous No. 16272258

>>16272226
it's retarded clickbait "journalism" NASA did not say that

Anonymous No. 16272264

>>16272242
The plasma magnet being used to increase Starship's payload to Mars like a spinnaker would be incredible. The one downside is it also reduces payload *volume* so it'd be optimized for hauling heavy things like reactors.

Anonymous No. 16272269

>>16272264
Starship is payload limited by downmass to the surface and upmass to LEO, not by the transfer, which is cheap all things considered

Anonymous No. 16272271

>>16272269
Then they could use the plasma magnet for shorter transfers, also like a spinnaker.

Anonymous No. 16272272

>>16272271
you're probably limited on transfer time by entry velocity, not dV

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Anonymous No. 16272273

>>16272264
>The one downside is it also reduces payload *volume*
No?

It's tiny really tiny for the amount of throost (drag) you get out of it once the plasma bubble expands, at least if the theory works out like that and it stays stable

I can imagine Starship deploying these once it clears the Earth's magnetosphere out of a special ring segment with them attached and hidden until necessary to deploy, idk if the effects stack with the more you have or the more voltage applied to the superconductor ring but either way an extra 300-400km/s of d-v is huge, even for a non-mass optimized Starship

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Anonymous No. 16272275

>>16272183
>venus
lol no
>>16272193
>Luna
lol, lmao even
>>16272202
> le exoplanets + memedrives to reach them
bwahahaha

Anonymous No. 16272276

>>16272170
New Shepard landings do not really translate to New Glenn.

Anonymous No. 16272277

>>16272275
skill issue

Anonymous No. 16272279

>>16272272
Slingshot around Jupiter to brake

or carry extra propellant to brake

Anonymous No. 16272281

>>16272272
That still gives you faster Earth return since the sail is a brake on sunward maneuvers.

Anonymous No. 16272282

What will be the first non-orbital, non-planetary habitats, and what's the easiest way to make them?
How many years before there are habitats that are independent of any planet (although possibly dependent on each other)?

Anonymous No. 16272283

>>16272282
what the fuck are you talking about

Anonymous No. 16272284

>>16272273
You still need the power supply, so an extra 20kW@1AU of solar panels, and then delivery+conditioning hardware, and a deployment/retraction mechanism, etc. It's not a crippling change but it's still there.

Anonymous No. 16272285

you talk about space all day but you dont do anything about it. build cubesats, buy a ticket to space, do something other than yap.

Anonymous No. 16272286

>>16272282
>>16272283
tubes

Anonymous No. 16272287

>>16272284
Yeah but with the way I describe it sort of integrated into Starship the way you'd integrate a sail on a boat it doesn't take up any of the payload volume at all, doesn't even have to be located in the payload area

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Anonymous No. 16272289

>>16272283

Anonymous No. 16272290

>>16272285
I'm saving money for my ticket and considering switching to Starlink

Anonymous No. 16272300

>>16272282
Why would you even do that? You're basically a generation ship at that point

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Anonymous No. 16272304

Muskrats arent panicking over Beryl which will destroy Starbase once it makes landfall. Why is that?

Anonymous No. 16272307

>>16272304
Its not hitting starbase

Anonymous No. 16272308

>>16272304
See >>16272046

Anonymous No. 16272309

>>16271270
A for effort.

Anonymous No. 16272316

>>16272304
Weather is an atmospheric phenomena, in the future we won't have to worry about such troubles.

Anonymous No. 16272320

>>16272304
nothingberger

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>>16272168

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Anonymous No. 16272330

>>16272230
It's easier if you have a portal gun.

Anonymous No. 16272335

>>16272151
I'm not autistic. I'm just weird.

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Anonymous No. 16272336

Just want plasma magnet to be real mang

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Anonymous No. 16272342

>>16272336

Anonymous No. 16272343

What's a nigga gotta do to get a fade around here? Sheeeeeit

Anonymous No. 16272344

>>16272207
Does Elon think he would be allowed to colonize mars without Blacks? Apparently he does because that's the only way a self-sufficient Mars colony could possibly make sense.

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Anonymous No. 16272349

>>16272336
we arent going to get the cool shit for a long time

Anonymous No. 16272351

>>16272304
Why would you worry about something that you can't do anything about?

Anonymous No. 16272352

>>16272282
everything orbits something, even the sun orbits the galactic center

Anonymous No. 16272354

>>16272352
yeah, I meant not orbiting a planet
my mistake

Anonymous No. 16272355

>>16272282
>non-orbital
>non-planetary
are talking about suborbital habitats?

Anonymous No. 16272356

When will the next space flight physics breakthrough be? Will ai take us to the stars? Will ai nigga please?

Where are our modern day Einsteins? Where are our BLM sponsoered rockets?

Anonymous No. 16272357

>>16272230
your sunshades would have to be over 1000 km^2 each to cover venus

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Anonymous No. 16272358

>>16272355
of course

Anonymous No. 16272359

>>16272357
>1000 km^2
hmmm

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Anonymous No. 16272360

>>16272356
Soon

Anonymous No. 16272361

>>16272359
You can fit 1 km of them in a starship

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Anonymous No. 16272363

>>16272358
That's a man.

Anonymous No. 16272364

>>16272358
El capitรกn will soon have many Kuipersats. He will finally be able to replace those pesky Starlink terminals on his yacht.

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Anonymous No. 16272370

>>16272363
false

Anonymous No. 16272380

BUY BUY BUY ROCKETLAB
NORMIES ARE STARTING TO NOTICE!!

Anonymous No. 16272381

spinlaunch hyperloop

Anonymous No. 16272384

>>16272381
stretchable Mars-Earth hyperloop

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Anonymous No. 16272387

>>16272385
unprofitable companies die without low interest rate gibs

Anonymous No. 16272389

>>16272385
Does this cripple mods? Literally wtf is wrong with this company kek itโ€™s such a bizarre situation

Anonymous No. 16272390

>>16272380
I don't keep money in the computers.

Anonymous No. 16272391

>>16272380
Wrong
>>16272381
Need to die
>>16272384
Retard
>>16272387
Based

Anonymous No. 16272397

>>16271624
Public outrage over the insane cost compared to alternatives, or a fatal accident(s).

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๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16272399

>>16271146
hey that's my line!

Anonymous No. 16272407

>>16272347
plasma magnet sails: can do any maneuver you want, as long as that maneuver is radial out from the sun

Anonymous No. 16272412

>>16272407
That's why they pair well with BNTR systems for the outer system. You don't sacrifice plasma sail area for photovoltaics and you get a high thrust system with OK Isp for sunward acceleration. Inner system all you need is some solar panels and RVacs to utterly cheese any maneuver you want if you have a plasma magnet.

Anonymous No. 16272414

>>16272407
Greason goes into steering and tacking and even using Jupiters magnetic field to turn around and head inwards in his later talks its pretty cool stuff, a level of interacting with the dynamics of the stellar wind and magnetospheres we've just barely begun to grasp

Anonymous No. 16272415

>>16272399
Enjoy your vacation evader.

Anonymous No. 16272430

>>16272399
look at her go!

Anonymous No. 16272433

>>16272399
faster

Anonymous No. 16272456

>>16271624
>>16271633
I want you to imagine a politician telling his constituency that if elected (or re-elected) he'll shut down a nearby Federal aerospace complex because it's wasteful and pointless. Maybe some madlad out there can make it work, but most of the time that's a surefire way to sabotage your own election. You can imagine the opposition's advertising rhetoric: "Why does he HATE people having JOBS?"
Voters are opposed to pork-barrel spending, yes -- but only everyone else's. Any pork spending that benefits you is sacred.
The most an average politician can do is replace the aerospace facility with some other unrelated pork barrel project.

Anonymous No. 16272462

>>16272456
>Voters are opposed to pork-barrel spending, yes -- but only everyone else's
So we just need a texan president to funnel it all into starship

Anonymous No. 16272467

>>16272456
That's why it's up to the President or NASA leadership to fire everyone at an unneeded facility or reassign them somewhere else and then just not spend any money there.

Anonymous No. 16272468

>>16272284
20kw of solar panels sounds like a lot but is actually fuck all really, about the size of two house roofs full of solar, bigger with lower efficiency solar film of course but much, much lighter and can double as a sunshield

Anonymous No. 16272475

>>16271270
What the fuck is this post

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Anonymous No. 16272478

>>16272399
Why does starship have such an inherently sexual design?

Anonymous No. 16272479

>>16272475
>he is unaware

Anonymous No. 16272514

>>16272478
Massive payloads and large thrust can only be interpreted one way

Anonymous No. 16272519

>>16272514
pregnant women

Anonymous No. 16272546

https://youtube.com/shorts/51zJzWKQOj8
Uhhhh guys?

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Anonymous No. 16272548

>>16271846
this so much

Anonymous No. 16272556

>>16272546
yes, anon? are you surprised to learn that orbital velocity around a black hole is extremely fast?

Anonymous No. 16272570

>>16272556
This is indisputable prove of extraterrestroal intelligences

Anonymous No. 16272580

So bets on if starliner returns this week?

Anonymous No. 16272583

>>16272580
*month

Anonymous No. 16272584

>>16272580
comsidering dragon's toilet overflowing with shit and piss, i think starliner is doing just fine.

Anonymous No. 16272590

>>16272584
source?

Anonymous No. 16272606

https://x.com/torybruno/status/1810060700133237145
>Pretty soon. I donโ€™t feel the need to blow several up to get some limited initial capability, so weโ€™ll follow a more disciplined development approach, similar to Vulcan. PDR was recently completed. Full scale sea tests finished, wind tunnel testing went well. CDR next.

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16272612

https://x.com/DeveloperHarris/status/1810079177795875020

enabled by low-latency satellite internet

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Anonymous No. 16272614

https://x.com/DeveloperHarris/status/1810079177795875020

labor arbitrage enabled by starlink
btw this was a thing in the Rifters trilogy by Peter Watts (or at least the second part)
very underrated writer in general IMO

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Anonymous No. 16272616

>>16272606
Muskrats btfo lmao

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Anonymous No. 16272619

>>16272616
Impressive, very nice. Let's see ULA's reusable boosters and reentry vehicles.

Anonymous No. 16272630

>>16272619
SpaceX has no reusable reentry vehicle
Reusable booster yes but that's trivial

Anonymous No. 16272631

>>16272630
>"Reusable boosters are trivial," he says, while no space organization outside of China is making any serious efforts to build one

Anonymous No. 16272632

ULA has what, 3 years left?

Anonymous No. 16272633

>>16272632
going to take longer than 3 years to fulfill their launch schedule for NSSL and Kuiper launches with this cadence

Anonymous No. 16272635

>>16272633
after that though it's lights out

Anonymous No. 16272636

>>16272632
Two weeks

Anonymous No. 16272642

Can someone give me a completely spoiler free tidbit of information about the realism and engines in The Expanse? Like how does it stack up to other sci fi in terms of realism. Im still on season one

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16272643

>good land
>bad land
>neutral land (soon to be allied with good land)
>northern hinterland
>southern niggerland
>duchy of total irrelevance

Anonymous No. 16272644

>>16272642
completely unrealistic

Anonymous No. 16272645

>>16272643
wrong thread, fuck

Anonymous No. 16272646

>>16272642
>>16272644
It's doable:
https://toughsf.blogspot.com/2019/10/the-expanses-epstein-drive.html

Anonymous No. 16272647

>>16272642
The whole point of the Epstein Drive is that it's some handwaved tweak that multiplies the Isp of a laser ignited pellet fusion drive by some absurd value while keeping the same thrust levels. It exists to drive the plot.

Anonymous No. 16272648

>>16272646
high thrust, high ISP fusion is doable, sure. 1g of acceleration for days on end isn't.

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Anonymous No. 16272649

Why dont spaceflight companies use cute anime girls as promotion (isnt she adorable?)

Anonymous No. 16272650

>>16271624
It honesty wouldn't surprise me if Trump decides to deep-six SLS after Artemis III.

Anonymous No. 16272652

>>16272642
The fusion engines are implausibly good. The combination of extremely high mass flow rates and very high exhaust velocities are probably not possible to achieve.

Anonymous No. 16272653

>>16272648
Oh yeah that's definitely impractical

Anonymous No. 16272654

>>16272389
Take Two bought KSP and thought they could make a ton of money from a cheap sequel but they couldn't. Now they're getting rid of everything to try and claw some money back.
Mods should be fine though as I think they're hosted on third party sites mostly, we'd just lose all the info on the forum if it goes dark.

Anonymous No. 16272657

>>16272385
looks like a janny trying to stir the pot because he's mad that he's not been promised a job yet

Anonymous No. 16272658

>>16272632
They're still competitive with high orbit military contracts, but it's basically just because the government wants to support more than one rocket company. If BO does anything it's over

Anonymous No. 16272661

>>16272631
Both BO and rocketlab are making reusable boosters.
Hell, even russia is having a go at it. It's really only the euros with their heads in the sand.

Anonymous No. 16272662

>>16272661
That would require me to take Blue Origin and Rocket Lab as serious companies

Anonymous No. 16272665

>>16272662
You should at least take rocket lab seriously, they've gotten to orbit.

Anonymous No. 16272666

>>16272661
Wouldnt putin just remove all the rocket funding for more mosins for mobiks in like 2 days

Anonymous No. 16272669

>>16272666
Hi satan.
I mean he hasn't done it yet. Russia really wants their own starlink after seeing how useful it was to ukraine and you can't have starlink without a falcon 9. The development of soyuz 5 seems to be imperative for russia.

Anonymous No. 16272670

>>16272665
I was willing to take them seriously with Electron. Not so much with Neutron.

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Anonymous No. 16272671

>>16272669
2025 russian reconnaissance

Anonymous No. 16272676

>>16272657
need to double his pay

Anonymous No. 16272680

>>16272669
Makes me super nervous how involved Starlink is with a war, especially considering the party that stands to lose has a long history of operating in space. If the US military became aware that said party was going to attempt a a Kessler cascade in LEO they would let them do it just for the precedent. Is the Starlink network insured? Would they be covered for replacements and lost revenue?

Anonymous No. 16272684

>>16272680
If you are talking about Russia, Xi would squeeze his balls so hard they would fall off if he even thought about causing a Kessler syndrome. I don't think Ukraine has any working ASAT.

Anonymous No. 16272686

>>16272680
Starlink doesn't orbit high enough to cause kessler syndrome and russia doesn't have the launch capacity to take out enough of starlink to cause it anyway.
I'd be more worried about putin assassinating musk, theres a good argument that during the russian push on kiev that starlink is the only thing that let the ukraine organize a resistance. I hope musk is putting himself on the first flight to mars cause theres no where on earth he's safe.

Anonymous No. 16272688

>>16272680
>Kessler cascade in LEO
Midwit

Anonymous No. 16272689

>>16272688
What about a suborbital kessler syndrome? That seems more achievable.

Anonymous No. 16272690

>>16272616
What set him off?

Anonymous No. 16272691

>>16272689
No weapon fast enough to cause a very short term one. Nothing big enough to hit to create enough debris. Mine deployer is more realistic as a near term weapon for that orbit (cost effectively at least)

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Anonymous No. 16272693

>>16272686
>theres no where on earth he's safe.
There's always Israel now he bent the knee

Anonymous No. 16272694

>>16272690
Starliner stuck press coverahe

Anonymous No. 16272695

>>16272686
>I'd be more worried about putin assassinating musk
That would be a very retarded thing to do. Almost worse than assassinating the president.

Anonymous No. 16272706

Remember all doomers about Hurricane Beryl a few days ago? They're BTFO again. lol

Anonymous No. 16272710

>>16272706
As long as there wouldn't be any major erosion fucker going on I think Starbase is very resilient to hurricane damage due to their naturally fast rate of moving and building things.

Anonymous No. 16272712

>>16272614
the only bad thing about this is that it will allow people in places like Toronto to keep living

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Anonymous No. 16272727

>>16272606
>so weโ€™ll follow a more disciplined development approach, similar to Vulcan

Anonymous No. 16272732

>>16272606
>>16272616
>do no innovation
>don't even build your own engines
>spend your time milling isogrid aluminum and making powerpoints
>attempt to dunk on the company that's putting you out of business by innovating too fast
being snarky on X is the only thing he has to feel good about

Anonymous No. 16272734

>>16272055
Anything below cat 3 is unironically a nothing burger unless you're one of those idiots who have built a house directly on the beach

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Anonymous No. 16272742

>>16272255
>earth-moon barycenter still inside the earth.
By your logic, all the planets are independently orbiting the galactic center. I will cede that we live in the Sol-Jove binary system

Anonymous No. 16272743

>>16272606
As far as I, the outside observer, can tell, Bezos has one tube. Musk has made many tubes of increasing capability. Bezos sounds insecure and petty, like some kind of immature woman.

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Anonymous No. 16272747

>>16272742
>muh barycenter
read nigga

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Anonymous No. 16272750

>tfw due to NASA's eternal budget issues we'll at best only be able to see a mission to explore Uranus in 2043 at the earliest
BUT I WANT IT NOW
I'm getting old and they've should have funded this 60 years sooner

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Anonymous No. 16272752

does a mod here have EDS or is the no no word not allowed?

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Anonymous No. 16272753

BAHAHAHAHAHA
he's getting so worked up lmao
maybe don't throw stones from your glass house next time old space faggot

Anonymous No. 16272754

>>16272752
Believe it or not racism is actually banned on 4chan.

Anonymous No. 16272759

>>16272747
The fact that the moon is a planet in a plain reading of the IAU's definition is the least of the problems with it.

Anonymous No. 16272761

>>16272754
bullshit
check /sp/

Anonymous No. 16272766

>>16272753
>It is possible to correct a factual error without malice
has tory admitted that vulcan's core stage doesn't fly all the way into leo yet?

Anonymous No. 16272774

>>16272759
>everyone is wrong except me

Anonymous No. 16272777

>>16272774
The study is right so theres at least 2 of us!

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Anonymous No. 16272783

Bruh

https://x.com/aj_fi/status/1810298429991432222?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

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Anonymous No. 16272787

>>16272753
so he's going to correct this factual error next, right?
without malice of course

Anonymous No. 16272788

>>16272783
really mixing it up, aren't we?

Anonymous No. 16272794

>>16272783
It will be really funny in 10 years when Elon has memed chinks into doing arm catches when it ultimately doesn't pan out for Starship. Imagine if he followed through with the oil rigs.

Anonymous No. 16272799

>>16272783
>long chopsticks
>single landing engine
ngmi

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Anonymous No. 16272801

they hacked a fox channel and are now showcasing a scam starship flight 5 video

Anonymous No. 16272805

>>16272801
wtf i watched ift-5 happen yesterday

Anonymous No. 16272806

Why make Starship out of steel and then have to mitigate the excess dry mass (by removing the landing legs, jettisoning the HSR) rather than make a larger Falcon-esque rocket out of aluminium or whatever and then using some of that mass budget for legs, heat shield, etc? Is muh redesignability really worth it?

Anonymous No. 16272807

>>16272606
>>16272616
The snake sheds its skin. LMAO. You can never trust a snake

Anonymous No. 16272808

>>16272806
Theres also the fact steel is much better able to survive reentry than aluminum. As shown in flight 4 where despite a flap melting off the ship still landed.

Anonymous No. 16272811

>>16272642
Space magic.

Anonymous No. 16272812

>>16272806
if you made the first stage out of a different material you'd have to duplicate the tooling for everything and make a factory that's twice as big

Anonymous No. 16272813

>>16272783
jej

China never ceases to amaze me

Anonymous No. 16272814

>>16272806
He wants to make three per day. Every otherwise nonsensical design choice stems from that constraint

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Anonymous No. 16272815

>>16272385
burn squadcast

Anonymous No. 16272817

>>16272812
Making the first stage out of aluminum too would massively increase payload capacity.

Anonymous No. 16272818

>>16272783
It's not catching shit with those arms

Anonymous No. 16272820

>>16272817
>source? i made it up

Anonymous No. 16272821

>>16272385
>playing ksp in current year

Anonymous No. 16272823

>>16272787
Yeah, he actually gave it three times the performance it currently has.

Anonymous No. 16272825

>>16272820
A kilogram of steel is heavier than a kilogram of aluminum.

Anonymous No. 16272826

>>16272347
where would solar sails be on this chart?

Anonymous No. 16272827

>>16272826
it's hard to have a specific impulse when you don't have a reaction mass with an exhaust velocity

Anonymous No. 16272828

>>16272817
I imagine there's a strength to weight ratio that the best engineering company in the world right now took into consideration

Anonymous No. 16272835

>>16272616
Let's not act like children

Anonymous No. 16272838

>>16272693
When all your assets are tied up in companies, you have to mollify the banking clan.

Anonymous No. 16272839

>>16272783
Chinese cgi >>>> Space-x

Anonymous No. 16272841

>SpaceX chief eyes public offering in 2 years
https://www.reuters.com/article/AerospaceandDefense07/idUSN0344600420071204
It's over.

Anonymous No. 16272842

>>16272841
wow insane and that's cool
brb gotta charge my ipod nano

Anonymous No. 16272845

>>16272842
>>16272841
falcon 9 heavy looks cool and all but there's really no need for it once ares i is operational

Anonymous No. 16272846

>>16272841
it never even began...

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Anonymous No. 16272847

>>16272841
>December 3, 2007 7:42 PM EST Updated 17 years ago

Anonymous No. 16272850

>>16272841
Bad move, they should focus on Falcon 5 before IPO.

Anonymous No. 16272851

>>16272841
elon been dangling this carrot for a long time

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Anonymous No. 16272853

>>16272841
>2007
i want to go back

Anonymous No. 16272857

>>16272853
Maybe you should, you reek of reddit

Anonymous No. 16272858

>>16272857
somebody needs to go back to digg

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Anonymous No. 16272860

>>16272783
>USA has superior chopstick technology

Anonymous No. 16272861

>>16272827
but isn't the plasma sail the same?

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Anonymous No. 16272862

>>16272841
That's ridiculous. They haven't even reached orbit yet.

I wish they were more like Blue Origin and were humble and actually tried to accomplish something before cashing in. BO has a huge head start and will probably reach orbit first. This just feels desperate.

Anonymous No. 16272863

>>16272861
yeah, i'm not sure what the chart is talking about though. if you can brake at 2g against the interstellar medium like greason claims then your effective performance is WAY higher than 10^5s ISPs

Anonymous No. 16272866

https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1810167597603979675


Boeing gets a slap on the wrist with $243M fine for their planes

Anonymous No. 16272870

>>16272866
Tell us, did you honestly believe anything else would happen to a company too big to be allowed to fail?

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Anonymous No. 16272876

you didnt forget to wish kuria-chan a happy birthday, did you anon? (it was yesterday)

Anonymous No. 16272882

>>16272841
>Updated 17 years ago
lmao

Anonymous No. 16272883

>>16272870
I would hope the douglas taint would die with them.

Anonymous No. 16272884

>>16272841
> "I don't consider Boeing and Lockheed to be our biggest competitors," Musk said. "If we fail, it'll be because of some dumb thing that we did, not because of some smart thing that they did."
>"It's going to be a lot harder to stay ahead of the Chinese and maybe the Indians," he said.
so nothing has really changed in 17 years, each respective entity has kept on their respective trajectories

Anonymous No. 16272886

>>16272884
Musk has accurate long term predictions.

Anonymous No. 16272887

>>16272866
they need to get disrupted in all of their important industries before they are allowed to die
electric planes are on the way, defense is being disrupted by drones

Anonymous No. 16272890

>>16271441
There we stood in the doorway, we heard the pressure seals fail
I was thinking to myself this could be deadly or this could be spun
Then we lit up the oxygen, and burnt down the bay
I heard indians in the mission control, I thought I heard them say

Anonymous No. 16272892

>>16272886
Just watched a video from 2011 where he says
>you would not want to make a rocket out of steel
when asked about why he went with aluminum for Tesla

Anonymous No. 16272898

>>16272752
less wr*ng is the trigger here, it's to keep that psuedointellectual garbage the fuck out of /sci/ (not really working)

Anonymous No. 16272900

>>16272898
>>16272898
Shtu up idoitnbody askde yuo

Anonymous No. 16272901

It's getting really hard to support that QI guy and I'm starting to hope his theory is wrong desu

Most insufferable paleoconservative Russian apologist Putin dicksucker there is

Anonymous No. 16272902

spaceplanes be like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sDJP1_7AaA

Anonymous No. 16272904

Pseuds be like >>16272902

Anonymous No. 16272913

>>16272861
I think its different when its 300km/s delta v though

Anonymous No. 16272914

>>16272901
thanks anon, i hadn't realized that he was based enough to think that the racial future of america should take precedence over settling ashkenazi ethnic grievances in eastern europe. i'll root for QI in your place.

Anonymous No. 16272916

>>16272913
and that's just on the ecliptic plane, solar wind is even faster at the poles

Anonymous No. 16272917

>>16272866
To be fair they're already losing 2.4 billion dollars a year, anything more than a slap on the wrist would kill them right now.
I mean boeings still probably gonna die soon but this just speeds it up a little.

Anonymous No. 16272919

>>16272917
$240M is just the cost of 1 plane. Its absolutely nothing

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Anonymous No. 16272926

>>16272901
McCulloch is a classic example of a man without a proper internal bullshit filter who discovers that one piece of conventional wisdom is wrong. He has no sense outside of his narrow specialties whether or not a narrative is true so his default heuristic is "I support the opposite of the current thing." /pol/ and russophile frogtwitter are full of that personality type. I still think QI is possibly true, but I don't trust Mad Mike's opinions on anything outside of QI or oceanography.

Anonymous No. 16272929

>>16272926
>"I support the opposite of the current thing." /pol/ and russophile frogtwitter are full of that personality type
lmao yeah that's a mindset a lot of flat earthers have too

For me I think QI is only part of the picture and not the whole, he's praising it as the theory that solves every discrepancy in cosmology but I doubt it's that elegant and complete, borders on delusional. Dark matter is probably not real, and something like a mix of QI and MOND are the reason why imo

Anonymous No. 16272970

>>16272919
Thats crazy.

Anonymous No. 16272972

Ariane 6 maiden flight tomorrow

Anonymous No. 16272974

>>16272919
the reputational cost of pleading guilty (and worse, the impression that they still haven't gotten over issues they should've solved 5 years ago) is going to lead to a lot more than $240M of cancelled orders

Anonymous No. 16272975

>>16272972
oh word

Anonymous No. 16272976

>>16272972
>maiden scrub tomorrow
FTFY

Anonymous No. 16272977

>>16272972
Thats insaaaane.

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Anonymous No. 16272980

>>16272972
https://www.youtube.com/live/z1WGk5XSNXk
Set your alarms! Beautiful rocket launching

Anonymous No. 16272983

>>16272887
>electric planes are on the way

So are sci-fi batteries real yet?

Anonymous No. 16272988

>>16272983
yes actually

Anonymous No. 16272990

>>16272983
no lol, current eplane designs are garbage

Anonymous No. 16272992

>>16272983
yes, they use lk-99 cathodes

Anonymous No. 16272993

>>16272972
maiden explosion (the first of many)

Anonymous No. 16272998

Legit though, how will the euros cope if ariane 6 blows up? More protectionism or abandoning spaceflight?

Anonymous No. 16273002

>>16272998
"starship blew up 3 times"

Anonymous No. 16273007

>>16273002
It blew up way more than that.

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Anonymous No. 16273012

>>16272399
>[Deleted]
sus

Anonymous No. 16273016

>>16273012
its depot-chan

Anonymous No. 16273018

>>16272998
If a space agency fails and no one cares, did it ever exist?

Anonymous No. 16273032

>>16272734
oh was it not even a cat 3? yeah okay my bad I assumed we were talking about a hurricane here

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16273033

>>16272752
the new janny doesn't like the nigger word, no, but I don't think that's why you got hit there

Anonymous No. 16273036

>>16273016
yeah it got posted and then deleted while I was sleeping, my computer nabbed it and I saw it just now

Anonymous No. 16273037

>>16272998
it will be like H3 blowing up. Theyโ€™ll just try again next year. It wonโ€™t be the death of the rocket

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Anonymous No. 16273040

Heres a chart for launch windows to all planets.

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Anonymous No. 16273046

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9y8ZjdMeBw
>Starbase Pad B's New Methods & Challenges | Starbase Update

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Anonymous No. 16273049

slut

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Anonymous No. 16273050

>>16273040
What are the white bands through the best launch windows? I have seen these charts but never a good explanation.

Anonymous No. 16273054

>>16273050
gay niggers in outer space are getting in the way

Anonymous No. 16273057

>>16273050
that's the perfect hohmann transfer, which is actually secretly illegal because Earth and Mars do not have the same orbital inclination around the sun

Anonymous No. 16273061

>>16273057
>Earth and Mars do not have the same orbital inclination around the sun
I don't like when things don't line up. Mars must be moved.

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Anonymous No. 16273062

>>16272998
Frogs will get even more money probably if it blows up.
God i hate, the french and the italians, fuckers eat up most of the ESA budget to build shitty rockets.

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Anonymous No. 16273064

>>16273040
>>16273050
This will be unnecessary and archaic soon enough

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Anonymous No. 16273066

>>16273064
still gotta brake at the destination

Anonymous No. 16273068

>>16273066
Not for cheap, rapid and inexpensive flyby probes

Otherwise you can maybe brake off Jupiters magnetosphere, then slingshot to Mars or wherever at reduced speed but having saved a year or so of travel time, or alternatively just carry enough reaction mass to slowdown/aerobrake at Mars, instead of needing to carry fuel for both ways.

Lots of flexibility with the plasma magnet concept that's why I love it desu

Anonymous No. 16273069

>>16273066
Rombus is such a weird design, made me think this was an AI generated illustration (from "castle rocket" or something)

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Anonymous No. 16273070

anybody gonna watch the hbo thing on rocketlab and astra next week?

Anonymous No. 16273071

>>16273070
Nope

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Anonymous No. 16273072

>>16273068
>slingshot to Mars
This depends on planetary positions which are 3 years apart and defeats the goal of rapid transits.
I like the magsail too but it doesn't solve everything

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>>16273070
>Astra
Oh boy, I might

Anonymous No. 16273078

>>16273070
no

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Anonymous No. 16273086

>>16273046
pic is from the old tower

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>>16272998
Ariane 5 had 28 months and two failures between its first launch date and its first successfully deployed payload. The difference is that back then Ariane 4 was still flying and the only real commercial competition Arianespace had was a Proton-K whose flight rate was limited by quota. If the A6 blows up on ascent the default response will be the standard "space is hard, please give us more money," but with all the other viable LSPs it's anyone's guess how that'd be received by the people who actually hand out the money.

Anonymous No. 16273108

The astronauts aren't really stranded. Right?

I mean, Boeing has to let them go home.

Anonymous No. 16273110

>>16273049
>Garbage

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Anonymous No. 16273111

/sfg/, please, call elon for us before it's too late... save us /sfg/...

Anonymous No. 16273112

>>16272983
Batteries have been steadily getting better and cheaper since 2016, through optimization and small architecture changes. CATL (largest battery manufacturer in the world) announced that they're working in a partnership to make electric planes last month. They've already tested a 4 ton plane

Anonymous No. 16273113

>>16272983
nuclear powered airplanes

Anonymous No. 16273114

>>16273110
>waaah! waaah! AI!!

Shut the fuck up go eat a dick you whiner.

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Anonymous No. 16273116

>>16273113
accept no imitations

Anonymous No. 16273117

>>16273062
If the french weren't there, Europe just wouldn't have a rocket, they're not eating up anything

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Anonymous No. 16273118

>>16273111
The pic going dark as their oxygen runs out is *chef's kiss*

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Anonymous No. 16273123

>>16273114
Are you retarded?

Anonymous No. 16273124

>>16273117
If the US&soviets didnt steal all the german scientists at the end of ww2, there would be a european flag on mars, brought there on a spaceship designed&build by germans.

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Anonymous No. 16273126

>>16273124
france's lone ex-nazi engineer made the viking engine but on the other hand is that really something worth bragging about

Anonymous No. 16273133

>>16273124
If France had fought in WW2 maybe they could have gotten some Germans, too.

Anonymous No. 16273134

>>16273124
Russian scientists made better small arms so russia would have won the space war anyways.

Anonymous No. 16273135

>>16273124
did you know that for the rest of the world, the second world war lasted longer than 45 days?

Anonymous No. 16273138

>>16272357
You don't have to cover it completely.

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Anonymous No. 16273141

>>16273126
Viking wasn't bad for a 70s engine, but they should have iterated that into an kerolox version instead of chasing the RS-25 with the Vulcain. The H-1/RS-27 was really underrated design and Europe would have had their own version of that. Instead they're stuck with an expensive surface level version of the J-2.

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Anonymous No. 16273146

https://x.com/gurgavin/status/1810391997011865752

Anonymous No. 16273148

>>16273146
Only really a problem if its the front wheel.

Anonymous No. 16273153

>>16273146
loosing a wheel is a maintaining issue, not a manufacturing issue

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>>16273141
europa was supposed to have been that even before ariane 1, the RZ.2 was S-3D-derived just like the RS-27.

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Anonymous No. 16273157

>>16273070
https://x.com/ashleevance/status/1810373218999705617

Anonymous No. 16273159

>>16273153
>5 cents have been deposited to your account from the boeing company

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>>16273157

Anonymous No. 16273164

>>16273070
>>16273157
>rocket lab
>astra
might as well as throw virgin galactic in there. lmao. what a joke.

Anonymous No. 16273166

>>16273157
>astra drift

Anonymous No. 16273171

>>16273040
i thought 2026 was the next launch window for mars? its actually 2027?

Anonymous No. 16273177

>>16272783
every day i have more respect for those chinese guys who came up with the idea of using a bunch of cables to catch a booster like a fucking spiderweb

Astranon No. 16273178

>>16273070
>>16273157
oh boy

Anonymous No. 16273179

>who will control the skies
neither of them

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Anonymous No. 16273180

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmgMDzg1eEk
It's been a while, but it's that time again
T-60:00

Anonymous No. 16273181

>>16273171
Looks to me like the very end of 2026, probably december.

Anonymous No. 16273184

>>16273180
>It's been a while
its been 12 hours

Anonymous No. 16273191

>>16273146
literally happens all the time

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Anonymous No. 16273192

https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1810408702857429419
>SpaceX is preparing to launch the TรœRKSAT 6A mission from pad 40 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station. The 45th Weather Squadron only forecasts about a 30 percent chance for favorable weather during the launch window, but things are looking reasonable near the opening of the window. Liftoff is currently set for 5:21 pm ET (2121 UTC).

Anonymous No. 16273195

>>16273116
it could easily be done and would be awesome

Anonymous No. 16273200

>>16273049
>Whats a water deluge system? You want it in my where!?

Anonymous No. 16273201

>>16273200
don't reply to the AIslop guy

Anonymous No. 16273203

>>16273201
Don't tell me who I can or can't reply to

Anonymous No. 16273204

is there any sign that the second tower will have water suppression?

Anonymous No. 16273205

>>16273201
Don't reply to that anon

Anonymous No. 16273207

>>16273205
Don't reply to this anon

>>16273203
>>16273201
Reply to this anon

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>>16273203
>>16273205
don't reply to this post

Anonymous No. 16273210

@16273208
Don't tell me what to do!

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Anonymous No. 16273213

>booster 12 static fire this week
launch draws closer

Anonymous No. 16273215

>>16272825
is this true?!?!?

Anonymous No. 16273220

>>16273203
Don't reply to me or my son ever again

Anonymous No. 16273221

>>16272817
Why not just dump carbon into the atmosphere with planes instead of incinerating astronauts though

Anonymous No. 16273226

>>16273208
UUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHH

Anonymous No. 16273229

>>16273192
Looks like they added to the countdown

Anonymous No. 16273234

scrubx

Anonymous No. 16273239

>>16273208
The skies are filled with chattering flat chested girls.

Anonymous No. 16273240

SpaceX is finished, it's time for a more disciplined development approach to launch to take over, Vulcan.

Anonymous No. 16273255

>>16273229
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1810424990942253121
>Now targeting 6:30 p.m. ET for liftoff due to weather

Anonymous No. 16273256

>>16273208
Now I want to see this updated with Lazer-link and direct to cell. If not that, I do hope we will get a V2 tan once those are in orbit.

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Anonymous No. 16273281

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1810425324766687570

Anonymous No. 16273288

>>16273146
It's just staging to reduce dead weight.

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Anonymous No. 16273308

>>16273298
right fairing half looks it sat in seawater too long and got soggy

Anonymous No. 16273316

>>16273255
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1810433426518118441
>Liftoff of the Turksat 6A mission is now targeted for no earlier than 7:00 p.m. ET due to unfavorable weather conditions

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>>16273316

Anonymous No. 16273322

>>16272890
Welcome to Boeing Ground Control!
Have you tried to turn it off and on?
Turn it off and on...

Anonymous No. 16273326

>>16272399
any particular reason why this was deleted but the other rocket girl posts weren't?

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Anonymous No. 16273330

>>16273326
Sometimes posts like that only get deleted when some hothead hits report on them to draw a jannie's attention. Same with the N-word.

Anonymous No. 16273331

>>16273321
https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1810439057165422776
>Another 30-minute adjustment by SpaceX for the launch time of the TรœRKSAT 6A mission. Liftoff of the Falcon 9 rocket is now set for 7:30 p.m. EDT (2330 UTC).

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Anonymous No. 16273335

Ascender 9 flew

Anonymous No. 16273338

>>16273335
Suborbital Pants

Anonymous No. 16273339

>>16273070
>Astra - We adapt
Hard pass.

Anonymous No. 16273341

>>16273335
Looks like a pair of jeans used for a music festival hung out to dry only for the wind to blow them away.

Anonymous No. 16273373

>>16273331
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1810448400548278690
>All systems are looking good for todayโ€™s launch of the Turksat 6A mission from Florida. Weather conditions have improved for liftoff, and propellant load is underway

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Anonymous No. 16273377

>>16273376
pride month is over

Anonymous No. 16273378

Tory bros is it safe to come out again yet?

Anonymous No. 16273381

>a third of the houston area is without power due to beryl
how are the local space companies doing? where's tesla solar when texas needs elon?

Anonymous No. 16273388

>>16273180
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1jMKgmRBoBlJL
Twitter stream is up

Anonymous No. 16273390

>>16271374
>>16271441
>>16272890
>>16273322
Keep it going guys, we're onto something here

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Anonymous No. 16273391

>space fags

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Anonymous No. 16273392

>>16273381
Once they are done launching Starlink sats, they should use all that launch capacity for space based solar.

Anonymous No. 16273402

>>16273341
>>16273338
LOL
>>16273070
>astra
oh hey that's the name of the satellite that never fucking works when I try to point my dish towards it

Anonymous No. 16273403

>>16273392
Jokes aside I clearly remembering Elon saying SBSP being a joke and land based solar being much more efficient.

Anonymous No. 16273404

>>16273392
They're never done launching Starlink. Deorbit schedules mean new ones need to replace old ones.

Anonymous No. 16273407

>>16273373
>>16273388
T-1m might actually launch

Anonymous No. 16273414

>>16273326
jannies are gay

Anonymous No. 16273417

>>16273403
All depends on location though, for places with garbage sun coverage and/or very limited or very expensive land it could be quite lucrative. Also lets you deploy power in places like Antarctica and the middle of the ocean without expensive ass ongoing fuel costs.

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>>16273414

Anonymous No. 16273419

>>16273418
so true

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Anonymous No. 16273420

I thought B1076 was a goner bros

Anonymous No. 16273421

>>16273417
Smaller solar power satellites in molniya orbits aren't the worst idea for polar applications

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Anonymous No. 16273423

The roomba's access door was already halfway open they're not wasting any time securing it.
What the fuck is this weather?

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>>16273381
actually its over for houston in general. shits gone. this is some new orleans hurricane katrina level stuff.

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>>16273423
There's a low pressure system sitting off to the east of Florida. I'm guessing that B1076 came down somewhere near that.

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Anonymous No. 16273436

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1810459014112972824

Anonymous No. 16273438

how long was the starliner mission supposed to be again?

Anonymous No. 16273443

>>16273438
2 weeks

Anonymous No. 16273463

>>16273436
>ALL WEATHER SPACEFLIGHT
How do other LSPs cope watching another falcon booster land and be recovered autonomously in stormy weather out at sea? I'd just give up launching stuff and focus on satellite busses, orbital services, stations, landers, ISRU etc.. no need to reinvent the locomotive when you can just hitch your box car to Vanderbilts train

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Anonymous No. 16273468

https://x.com/lorengrush/status/1810423878025609384

https://archive.is/5DAdo

Anonymous No. 16273470

>>16273438
We have redefined the mission parameters, don't worry it's perfectly safe and they are not stranded.

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>>16273468
look like what you would expect

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>>16273471

Anonymous No. 16273476

>>16273475
Why is it always guys with the manliest jawlines who troon out? You never see weak chinned virgins do it.

Anonymous No. 16273478

>>16273471
>>16273475
they have "problem" written all over them

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>>16273423
>The roomba's access door was already halfway open they're not wasting any time securing it.

That's one reason launch rates are going up and not scrubbing often is they know how to safely recover the booster in shit weather. They've lost a few due to rough seas, so its been fun watching them try to solve it. The Octograbber somehow looks both professionally made, and built in somebody's backyard.

Anonymous No. 16273484

>>16273475
>>16273471
You can already tell they/them were fired for being fucking useless and decided it's because of the patriarchy and trumpers

Anonymous No. 16273485

>>16273480
>The Octograbber somehow looks both professionally made, and built in somebody's backyard.

It's not that easy in booster grabbery

Anonymous No. 16273487

>>16273471
"She recalls thinking, โ€œI have to be doing this, because thereโ€™s nothing else thatโ€™s going to fulfill me as much as this. And also, if I leave, whoโ€™s going to be the babysitter for the frat boys?โ€"

๐Ÿ—‘๏ธ Anonymous No. 16273494

>>16273476
you just notice the hons. i dont have a manly jaw.

Anonymous No. 16273499

>https://old.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/1dy1kr3/end_of_year_starship_progress_predictions/

fucking conservative ass predictions. "go big or go home" my ass. the reality is that we'll have 3 more starship launches after ift5 and all 4 of the launches will be successfully caught by the chopsticks. we'll also have refueling, payloads, and working payload bay doors.

Anonymous No. 16273501

>>16273494
Good bait

Anonymous No. 16273505

>>16273494
Delusional

Anonymous No. 16273507

>>16273471
Ms. Problematic

>>16273475
Mr. Pronouns

Anonymous No. 16273508

>>16273468
reminder the heinous acts he commited were claiming jeff can't get it up and comparing bill gates to the pregnant man emoji

Anonymous No. 16273510

>>16273463
Look at Tory Bruno Twitter as to how they cope.
Mostly it's very high levels of self delusion

Anonymous No. 16273511

>>16271105
It would be antisemitic for NASA to say anything bad against Boeing's Starofdavidliner

Especially after all the incest, their descendants can't even screw in a nut properly

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>>16273475
Kek

Anonymous No. 16273519

>>16273505
>>16273501
What did it say I cant get to my PC right now

Anonymous No. 16273520

>>16273471
>>16273475
oh noes
now nobody is gonna take this seriously upon seeing these people

Anonymous No. 16273528

>>16273484
Actually, if I'm remembering correctly, they weren't just being activistic on company time, they were bullying their coworkers into joining in the anti-chud struggle session they were trying to start up.

>>16273487
This is the sort of person who would have been a terrible mother had she not been convinced that children were invented by the patriarchy just to oppress her

Anonymous No. 16273533

>>16273528
>they were bullying their coworkers into joining in the anti-chud struggle session they were trying to start up.
That's just SpaceX's lawyers' spin on the situation to make it fit employment laws. Employees said that was an exaggeration and it was just shared.

Anonymous No. 16273536

>>16273533
I don't believe that. This type of mental disorder has next to zero variation in its behavior and they all pull that shit at the first opportunity they can. If you're not a vocal part of their cadre you're a counterrevolutionary in need of reeducation, and they fegel its their moral responsibility to carry that out.

Anonymous No. 16273540

>>16273463
The problem is that spaceflight isn't *yet* cheap enough for that future in terms of business plans. Momentus fucked up pretty big because they couldn't secure enough customers to get their water depots up and running, or justify the cost of lifting hundreds of gallons of water to orbit on F9.

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>>16273475

Anonymous No. 16273550

>>16273499
spacex themselves don't expect to demonstrate on orbit prop transfer until 2025. flight 5 is first booster catch, flight 6 I guess is raptor relight in space and refining any issues on ship/booster landing from flight 5. I would only expect maybe 2 more flights this year including flight 5 because I think the chopsticks/pad are gonna get fucked up in flight 5

Anonymous No. 16273557

>>16273550
so much for muh exponential ramp lmao. spacex are finished.

Anonymous No. 16273567

>>16273557
starship v2 waiting room

Anonymous No. 16273586

>>16273567
at some point they need to stop focusing on iterating and start focusing on delivering a minimum viable product

Anonymous No. 16273592

>>16273586
those are the same thing though

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Anonymous No. 16273596

https://x.com/RocketLab/status/1810421004981993535
>Weโ€™ve been using carbon composite technology in our rockets and spacecraft since we first began launching in 2017. With Neutronโ€™s largest carbon composite pieces quickly coming off the production line, weโ€™re excited to realize the benefits of carbon composite on our largest rocket yet.

Anonymous No. 16273615

>>16273596
I'm really sick of all PR stuff from these SPAC scams

Anonymous No. 16273616

>>16273596
Poor rocket lab. Neutron could have been pretty cool.

Anonymous No. 16273618

>>16273596
They are not innovating fast enough

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>>16273540
We are, moderately speaking, 3 or 4 years away from Starship becoming absolutely dominant in the LSP market. Hell we'll probably have a janky Chinese knockoff f9 by that point as well. At a certain point, other companies will need to just throw in the towel on launch and start focusing on downstream products. Apple didn't start out by trying to bootstrap their own jumbo jet to eventually airfreight Iphones from Asia to North American and Europe. We need companies that accept cheap access to LEO as a given service and develope products and services accordingly.

Anonymous No. 16273633

why does turkey *need* their own satellite anyway?

Anonymous No. 16273642

>>16273633
Turkish things

Anonymous No. 16273644

>>16273633
Who the fuck cares anyone with a little money and a desire for a satellite can have a satellite in my book.

Anonymous No. 16273659

>>16273468
Chevron Doctrine was overthrown. NRLB is getting fucked in the ass without any lube. All the marxist trannies getting raped with a 10 foot Musk big dick energy

Anonymous No. 16273671

>>16273659
>ULA claim that the stare decisis from Loper Bright v. Raimondo precludes SpaceX from receiving any NASA contracts for rocket designs made after 1991 and demands an immediate halt
>Because the legislation was written for and intended to be part of the Cold War space race, SpaceX's rocketry is not explicitly legislated to be hired by NASA so they must reward all contracts to ULA to launch Saturn V's
Hello Tony I'll take one of those 6 figure lawyer salaries now thank you very much

Anonymous No. 16273679

>>16273659
The actual result is that when the regulations are challenged in court, the judges are expected to listen to arguments instead of deferring to agency personnel when deciding whether or not the agency's regulations and courses of action are consistent and within the confines of the legal authorization received from Congress.

Anonymous No. 16273689

>>16273679
Thats one aspect to the lawsuit. Further aspect is whether NRLB can force a company into a judgement without any court hearing. In this case, SpaceX has won the right to present their case and fuck the commies in the ass

Anonymous No. 16273699

>>16273633
Military comms because they have terrible neighbors.

Anonymous No. 16273701

>>16273689
That's Jarkesy, not Loper. Both opinions came down within the same week.

Anonymous No. 16273703

>>16273699
because they are* terrible neighbors.

Anonymous No. 16273780

/sfg/ is dead

Anonymous No. 16273789

>>16273703
that too but Russia, Syria, Israel, Iran, and the Caucuses are all major poopheads

Anonymous No. 16273801

>>16273780
Ariane scrub will liven this place up

Anonymous No. 16273809

>>16273780
And thats good. General quality is better with less people.

Anonymous No. 16273864

>>16273780
Why do zoomers need constant spam to stay happy? Unironically asking

Anonymous No. 16273891

>>16273679
>FCC, FAA, AND NOAA all have to fuck off from space because it's not their jurisdiction
You love to see it

Anonymous No. 16273894

>>16273801
7 hours and change if I'm not wrong

Anonymous No. 16273919

>>16273070
>Kessler scaremongering imagery
I am obviously not the target audience

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>>16272860
damn it

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>>16273390

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Why does this guy look like a pepe

Anonymous No. 16273944

>>16273941
>measuring weight in units of mass
shiggidy diggidy doo

Anonymous No. 16273957

>>16273891
The FAA has more legally granted power than most federal agencies because of the nature of hat it does, but the FCC in particular has been power-grabby about space.

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>>16273944
>measuring thrust in units of mass

Anonymous No. 16273990

>>16273659
>All the marxist trannies getting raped with a 10 foot Musk big dick energy
>>16273468
>Falcon 9 like a massive dick getting thrust into the courtroom
I think "10 foot" is a bit of an understatement.

Anonymous No. 16274020

>>16272990
when ai will design my electric helicopter?

Anonymous No. 16274022

>>16272972
>Ariane 6
i thought its from europe, but its south america
that makes me bit sad and dissapointed

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Anonymous No. 16274031

>>16274025
embarrassing

Anonymous No. 16274035

>>16274031
Being a hydroloser is, yes.

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>>16274035
Kneel, gay man

Anonymous No. 16274039

>>16274037
>never made

Anonymous No. 16274041

>>16274025
Beside the AI slop, this is bad because of the counter-arguments, just put the arguments and let people infer the retort themselves

Anonymous No. 16274047

>>16273341
slander

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>>16271341
Based

I know it's expensive and not reusable but I still want to see my continent having its own rockets

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>>16274022
It's from French Guiana, which is part of France

Sure, that part is in South America, but still

Anonymous No. 16274052

>>16274051
Le soleil ne se couche jamais sur la Rรฉpublique Franรงaise !

Anonymous No. 16274059

>>16274052
didn't you guys unironically elect communists just now?

Anonymous No. 16274071

>>16274059
75 seats for the most leftist party (577 seats in total) it's not exactly the CCP
(and thank god because these retards want to stop using nuclear energy...)

Anonymous No. 16274073

>>16274071
Why the fuck are you euros so stupid about nuclear energy, betting hard on it was pretty much the only thing france did right since ww2.

Anonymous No. 16274092

>>16274073
Communist inflitration

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>>16274092
>communists are anti-nuclear

Anonymous No. 16274100

ELAN WHERE THE BLOODY ROGGET LAANCH BAASTARD
IAM BORED TRULY

Anonymous No. 16274103

>>16274100
We're all bored. Just relax and wait for the French to humiliate themselves again.

Even if their POS makes it to orbit (unlikely) it's still antiquated technology they're wasting billions on for the sake of national pride--in a country overrun by niggers and sandniggers!

Anonymous No. 16274105

>>16274093
They are when they're the ones selling the alternative

Anonymous No. 16274108

>>16274105
>communists
>sell

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Anonymous No. 16274130

https://thespacereview.com/article/4825/1
>โ€œFrom my point of view, Ariane 6 has already demonstrated its competitiveness with 30 launches in the order book,โ€ said Arianespaceโ€™s Arnoux.

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Anonymous No. 16274133

Axiom will buy Space Station modules from Gravitics

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/09/gravitics-lands-125-million-order-from-axiom.html

Anonymous No. 16274137

>>16274130
You even have Rocket lab seething in the article

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>>16274133
https://www.gravitics.com/news/axi4css

Anonymous No. 16274140

>>16274130
>"I have other things that I am working on that I have not shared with you,โ€ he added, โ€œthat will allow me to keep competing in the future.โ€
o i am laffin

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https://x.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1810675575335367167

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/09/gravitics-lands-125-million-order-from-axiom.html

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>>16274133
>>16274142
>Gravitics CEO @colindoughan
: โ€œWe're a very hardware rich company, so we're building at the same time we're finalizing design."

Anonymous No. 16274147

>>16274133
>The company signed an agreement with NASA on new approaches to testing large spacecraft, as well as an early Space Force development contract. The latter contract, Doughan emphasized, represents Gravitics working โ€œwith those customers that are ready to buy.โ€
>โ€œSpace Forceโ€™s budget is already ballooning beyond NASAโ€™s, and it wonโ€™t stop,โ€ Doughan said.
Space Force had better start making manned space bases unless they want to be bullied relentlessly

Anonymous No. 16274154

IFT-5 booster static fire today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX3Tfz30bts

Anonymous No. 16274155

>>16274133
>Axiom will buy Space Station modules from Gravitics
why tho? they already have the euros building their space station modules.

Anonymous No. 16274158

European Space Agency
@esa
Itโ€™s launch day for #Ariane6 #VA262, taking Europe into a new era of space transportation!

Watch live on YouTube from 18:30 BST/19:30 CEST https://youtube.com/live/B0oFpOJaIYc


Liftoff scheduled for 19:00 BST/20:00 CEST.

http://esa.int/arianelive

Anonymous No. 16274159

>>16274154
This one won't leave the test stand

Anonymous No. 16274160

10:02AMEuropean Space Agency, ESA
Liftoff is now scheduled no earlier than 20:00 BST/21:00 CEST. More info https://x.com/esa/status/181067450723...

Anonymous No. 16274161

>>16274130
>Falcon now, and Starship later, are โ€œrockets optimized for LEO operations. Thereโ€™s a lot of commercial market there, itโ€™s a less complicated rocket, and itโ€™s able to effectively fly its booster back.โ€
>starship
>less complicated
Tory are you retarded?

Anonymous No. 16274163

>>16274155
Probably confident that they would be able to outcompete Thales Alenia, about as old as old space goes in Europe

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Anonymous No. 16274179

https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1810685514951106641
>Super Heavy Booster 12 rolling out to the launch complex for static fire testing prior to Starship Flight 5.
>7/9/24

Anonymous No. 16274185

>We tried a few years ago to open a new launch complex at the cape but it was found to be the site of a slave plantation in the 1800s so it was disallowed for archeology/historic reasons

ffs

Anonymous No. 16274187

>>16274158
>taking Europe into a new era of space transportation!
The 1970s!

Anonymous No. 16274190

>>16274185
Who are you quoting?

Anonymous No. 16274191

>>16274190
https://x.com/DrPhiltill/status/1810647551328108869

Anonymous No. 16274193

>>16274185
>a bad thing happened here once so nobody can use it now
This would disqualify all land on Earth from further use. This planet is soaked through and through with human blood.

Anonymous No. 16274194

>https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1810690391382917427
Sri Lanka now allows Starlink

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>>16274130
>30
29

Anonymous No. 16274198

So B12 is rolling to launch site, whats it gonna be doing? More booster slapping or static fire or what?

Anonymous No. 16274201

>>16274195
Kys

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Anonymous No. 16274203

I can just imagine the eye rolls from all the top senior SpaceX execs reading this shit line

Anonymous No. 16274208

>>16274203
Part of the death cult that intend on sabatoging the company to drive the human extinction event closer

Anonymous No. 16274209

>>16274203
What are you reading

Anonymous No. 16274210

>>16274198
Static fire. The did booster slapping with a test article.

Anonymous No. 16274212

>>16274209
Its that hitpiece from Lauren Grush or whatever her name it

Anonymous No. 16274213

>>16274210
We're getting close then. Maybe it really is late July?

Anonymous No. 16274217

>>16274203
So glad these bucket crabs got shit canned.
If america were a decent country like china they'd be sent to a reeducation camp in nevada.

Anonymous No. 16274221

>>16274093
nuclear for me but not for thee

Anonymous No. 16274226

>>16274161
He knows that for people who don't know, starship is just two pieces made from simple materials

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>>16274185
>>16274191
>even when they're dead, blacks block spaceflight
will America ever get over its negrolatry?

Anonymous No. 16274250

>>16274185
GENOCIDE
E*RTHERS
NOW

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>>16274239
Probably not

Anonymous No. 16274252

>>16274203
DEI is a danger to civilization and needs to be stomped out

Anonymous No. 16274255

>>16274092
>>16274093
Western Communists only promote the absolute most harmful policies to the host nation. Deindustrialization, immigration, disarmament. I'd rather have the old USSR rule my country than them. At least the Eastern block countries were recoverable after they got free.

Anonymous No. 16274257

>>16274130
Ultimately, I think there will be niches which won't be occupied by SpaceX/Starship that will allow other provider to survive. Like, as Tory mentioned, I doubt we will see an entire Starship in GEO.
SpaceX could probably whip up a third stage/tug relatively easily for this market, but if they don't do it they probably don't see the benefits.
Same thing for suborbital tourism: SpaceX could ask a few intern to make a system for it. The fact they don't bother shows that there's no significant market there.

>>16274161
He might be talking about Falcon (but yeah, even then, it's still retarded)

Anonymous No. 16274259

>>16274252
Back to >>>/pol/

Anonymous No. 16274262

>>16274158
>hard work
>working tirelessly
no one believes this
they are literally French

Anonymous No. 16274263

>>16274257
You are severely underestimating Starships potential. They will be in GEO, anything is possible with refueling. Though there will be niches that SpaceX cant cover, its not that. Those niches are things like smaller payloads going to fully reusable small lift rockets like Stoke's.

Anonymous No. 16274265

who's paying the former spacex employee's lawyers? bezos? the democrats? both?

Anonymous No. 16274267

>>16274265
tory

Anonymous No. 16274269

>>16274265
I just presume Satan, he's a man of wealth and fame

Anonymous No. 16274273

>>16274217
If america were a decent country like germany they'd be sent to smoke stacks in canada.

Anonymous No. 16274276

>>16274265
it's Stalin

Anonymous No. 16274279

>>16274263
Yeah sure, it's possible, but will they really refuel a Starship several times to send a shitty comsat direct to GEO if they can use the same launches to add even more Starlinks? It's less "niches that SpaceX can't cover" than "niches SpaceX doesn't want to cover"

Anonymous No. 16274280

>>16274265
a title ix suit against a company worth hundreds of billions is going to have boatloads of lawyers trying to jump aboard. there's no need to assume a greater conspiracy, although one can't be ruled out.

Anonymous No. 16274281

>>16274279
*Elon teleports behind you and builds a new rocket optimized for whatever shitty niche market is left*
nothing personnel kid

Anonymous No. 16274284

>>16274281
Retarded. You clearly dont understand how SpaceX intends to move forward after Starship is fully developed. This is also the most r*ddit post Ive ever seen.

Anonymous No. 16274285

>>16274284
How reddit is THIS!
*unzips dick*

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Anonymous No. 16274286

can anyone explain how a6 is supposed to be an improvement on a5? it's a little bigger i guess

Anonymous No. 16274288

>>16274286
It's supposedly cheaper to make.

Anonymous No. 16274289

>>16274285
>unzipping dick and not fly
Only troons have zipper 'dicks'

Anonymous No. 16274290

>>16274286
Supposed to be cheaper mainly

Anonymous No. 16274292

>>16274288
>>16274290
i wouldn't be surprised if the purpoted cost savings end up being an accounting trick from assuming a higher flight cadence than a5 (which they'll never hit)

Anonymous No. 16274294

>>16274286
It's like smartphones every year, a new thing with hardly any improvement

Anonymous No. 16274297

>>16274292
No way it hits A5 cadence. I'd honestly be surprised if all the kuiper missions stay on A6 once new glenn starts flying.

Anonymous No. 16274298

>Falcon 9 is named for the Millennium Falcon in the โ€œStar Warsโ€ movies
Not sure how I didn't know this. Bummer

Anonymous No. 16274302

>>16274298
I thought it was more of muellers bird autism.

Anonymous No. 16274303

>>16274286
Is A6 an effective vehicle for high energy orbits like GEO?

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>>16274302
i thought merlin/kestrel were the bird autism after falcon was already settled on

Anonymous No. 16274310

>>16274302
The engines are.

Anonymous No. 16274315

>>16274303
Upper stage is Hydromeme, so it should be relatively good.

Anonymous No. 16274321

>>16274259
Its official and a fact

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Anonymous No. 16274324

k i n o

Anonymous No. 16274325

>>16274284
>This is also the most r*ddit post Ive ever seen.
read this one, then
>>16274284

Anonymous No. 16274337

>>16274203
"How does this benefit the company?"

"You either do it or we sue you in a friendly court for more than it would cost to implement."

Anonymous No. 16274339

>>16274337
Use greentext for quotes

Anonymous No. 16274342

>>16274337
It only cheaper if you don't consider the nth order effects of people realizing you're afraid of litigation.

Anonymous No. 16274344

>>16274339
>hurr durr eye'm a nigger

Anonymous No. 16274347

>>16274337
For someone with really deep pockets, it makes sense to have a reputation for spending MORE on litigation than it would cost to settle. The alternative is death by a thousand cuts with this kind of bullshit legal extortion.

Anonymous No. 16274351

>>16274337
Extortion, then

Anonymous No. 16274353

>>16274344
You seem mad.

Anonymous No. 16274358

>>16274344
so true

Anonymous No. 16274362

>>16274306
same thing with turksat, itโ€™s named after a turkey

Anonymous No. 16274367

>>16274344
thats insane

Anonymous No. 16274369

>>16274367
>yeah

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Anonymous No. 16274386

Describe your ideal vacation in an Artemis-II style trip around the moon.

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Anonymous No. 16274392

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1810699373946470775

Anonymous No. 16274393

>>16274369
noo you can't greentext that

Anonymous No. 16274396

>>16274392
I wonder how much Toyota is wasting money on hydrogen cars

Anonymous No. 16274397

>>16274386
Mine would be to have a deck dedicated to viewing the moon and record/stream it for anyone on Earth to watch, and probably sit there for a few days. Id also take a day or two to do a tethered spacewalk and just look towards the Milky Way, maybe try to spot some other planets while I'm out walking. Definetly play Claire de Lune while I'm out floating around. Hopefully I would be alone for this, would be heaven.

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Anonymous No. 16274399

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1810697965268504690

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Anonymous No. 16274401

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1810697313070772524

Anonymous No. 16274402

>>16274399
Clearly biased reporting from Berger on his speeds YET AGAIN

Anonymous No. 16274403

>>16274392
hydrogen is silly for cars but so are batteries

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Anonymous No. 16274407

>>16274401
https://x.com/BrendanCarrFCC/status/1810666101371494654

https://www.youtube.com/live/NXUH8BX0-Ks

Anonymous No. 16274409

>>16274386
Shitting green diahrrea all over Dragon V2 cupola and then watching the faces of horror wash over my crewmates at what I just done

Anonymous No. 16274411

>>16274397
You described mine, except I want to stay out there.

Anonymous No. 16274412

>>16274403
It silly for phones too. They should run on butane. in fact pretty much anything with a battery makes no sense

Anonymous No. 16274414

>>16274412
We should breed humans to run on propane desu

Anonymous No. 16274418

>>16274286
To add to what the other anons said, A6 will be able to accept upgrades like reusable LRB.

Anonymous No. 16274421

>>16274412
micro-RTGs for phones. 5g already poisons your brain so some alpha particles won't hurt.

Anonymous No. 16274429

>>16274179
I wish we knew the throttle setting they use for static fires. I wonder if this starship static fire will produce more thrust-seconds than the Ariane 6 launch. Probably not,but it would be funny.

Anonymous No. 16274432

>>16274393
"noo you can't greentext that"

Anonymous No. 16274434

>>16274421
You are retarded and need to go back to >>>/x/ you 5G schizo.

Anonymous No. 16274435

>>16274403
Hydrogen makes sense anywhere high power to weight ratio or low molar mass has an outsized impact on performance. Thermal rockets, hydrolox upper stages, aircraft, motorcycles.

Anonymous No. 16274437

>>16274386
I seize control of the vehicle and land on the moon, regardless of the cost in human life

Anonymous No. 16274439

>>16274403
what's not silly for cars?

Anonymous No. 16274440

>>16274435
enemas too

Anonymous No. 16274441

>>16274439
CNG hybrids

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Anonymous No. 16274443

https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1810439691772268555
Whos ready to hear about Boeings failures again?

Anonymous No. 16274447

>>16274443
I am! I am!

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Anonymous No. 16274448

https://x.com/graviticsinc/status/1810677465687466195
Also Gravitics landed a 9 figure contract with Axiom

Anonymous No. 16274453

>fluorine toothpaste

Anonymous No. 16274457

>>16274403
how involved is synthesizing propane out of hydrogen? solar/wind/water -> hydrogen -> propane -> gas station
here's your green energy without the storage problems for electricity, containment problems for hydrogen and
its easy enough to refit a ice to run on propane.

Anonymous No. 16274458

>expendable toothpaste

Anonymous No. 16274463

>>16274458
>>16274453
Not spaceflight

Anonymous No. 16274464

>>16274457
That hydrogen to propane step is pretty complex. Prometheus Fuels is trying to synthesize actual octane (gasoline) out of CO2+water.

Anonymous No. 16274467

>>16274457
there's been some effort made at producing synthetic gasoline along those lines but best i can tell it's not economical at current prices https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syngas

Anonymous No. 16274468

>>16274463
Not spaceflight
>>16274463

Anonymous No. 16274469

>>16274457
It is far cheaper to get propane out of oil wells, same as hydrogen. Thats why legacy automakers push this stuff so hard.

Anonymous No. 16274470

>>16274458
I don't think I want reusability out of my toothpaste

Anonymous No. 16274474

>>16274463
samefag

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRJUXuhoqm4
19 minutes eurobros, this overdue POS better fly well. I fucking loved the A5, I miss her so much...

Anonymous No. 16274477

>>16274470
t. old space

Anonymous No. 16274478

>>16274470
old-space mindset

Anonymous No. 16274482

>>16274474
You only replied to one post...

Anonymous No. 16274483

>>16274476
why does the official ESA livestream have 3dcg starship renders as their waiting-for-the-stream-to-start filler video?

Anonymous No. 16274485

>>16274482
so he's right

Anonymous No. 16274486

>>16274478
>>16274477
What if we just made self-cleaning teeth?

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>>16274483
Anon I think you pulled up a scam stream

Anonymous No. 16274489

>>16274476
As a waffle anon, i hope it blows up and old space gets it shit kicked in by euro commissions and they finaly get of their ass and start building rockets that can compete with falcon9&starship.
Not that it will ever happen.

Anonymous No. 16274491

>>16274476
they just moved it back 15 minutes
this fucker is flying on French time or never

Anonymous No. 16274495

>>16274485
Well by definition yes. Also samefag

Anonymous No. 16274497

>>16274476
god i hope it explodes

Anonymous No. 16274499

>>16274476
>its a crypto scam
thanks ESA

Anonymous No. 16274501

>>16274488
oh wow, look at that
https://www.youtube.com/@EuropeanSpaceAgency-2024
https://www.youtube.com/@EuropeanSpaceAgency
there's a scam mirror channel, that's fucking epic

Anonymous No. 16274503

>>16274501
Report it then and stop talking about it.

Anonymous No. 16274504

>>16274495
rude!

Anonymous No. 16274505

>>16274503
"make me, fag"

Anonymous No. 16274507

>>16274476
I scanned to QR code
where is my money Elon?

Anonymous No. 16274508

They've already moved it back a full hour.
https://x.com/esa/status/1810679660751061435

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Anonymous No. 16274509

>>16274501
why does the scam channel have a checkmark, youtube doesn't vet shit huh
>>16274476
kek don't watch this I didn't realise it was fake, that's a really elaborate scam though I'm impressed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogXamYYJpQk
here's the real one, it's still 45 minutes until the stream and over an hour until launch

Anonymous No. 16274510

>>16274509
They steal real verified channels and then change everything to look like ESA since there are no security checks in place.

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Anonymous No. 16274511

posting in an epic explosion thread

Anonymous No. 16274512

>>16274509
>scam
im investing 1000 dollars right now and you cant stop me

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Anonymous No. 16274513

p comfy launch control room they've got going

Anonymous No. 16274514

>>16274505
>kek

Anonymous No. 16274516

>>16274513
those stadium screens in the ceiling are neat

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Anonymous No. 16274522

>>16274457
>propane
Retarded.
Methanol is better, can be made directly in a sabatier reactor.

Anonymous No. 16274524

>>16274512
damn anon's gonna be rich...

Anonymous No. 16274525

>>16274476
Theres no way anyone falls for this.
Everyone looking for an ariane launch stream knows elon has nothing to do with it.

Anonymous No. 16274527

>>16274255
>(((Western Communists)))
ftfy

Anonymous No. 16274528

>>16274525
What the fuck are you replying to

Anonymous No. 16274529

>>16274513
sloth picture on the wall because it's ESA's spirit animal

Anonymous No. 16274530

>>16274469
>same as hydrogen.
nope. see basedey chadmer for proof.
the cheapest hydrogen is solar panel wired straight into ultra cheap electrolyzer.

Anonymous No. 16274534

>>16274530
>the cheapest hydrogen comes from the fairy in my ass

Anonymous No. 16274535

>>16274530
if you read his stuff closely you'll see all his arguments for its economic viability hinge on qualifying for federal green hydrogen subsidies

Anonymous No. 16274537

New idea, cucking in space.

Anonymous No. 16274539

>>16274535
I did. In fact I made my own spreadsheet model.
I am right and you are wrong.
Reminder that solar cost is going nowhere but down.

Anonymous No. 16274542

>>16274537
not a new idea, dearmoon had it first

Anonymous No. 16274545

In the future solar panels will be printed not etched like a computer.
The cost limits to a roll of aluminum foil.
Seethe & Cope

Anonymous No. 16274546

>>16274337
>Hamburgers?

Anonymous No. 16274547

for reference, the official probably-not-a-scam stream is now live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0oFpOJaIYc

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Anonymous No. 16274550

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ch6wPRb4Og
SFN's live, T-55:00

Anonymous No. 16274552

>>16274547
It looks so bad with only 2 boosters.

Anonymous No. 16274555

i hate europoos

Anonymous No. 16274556

>>16274210
Maybe they'll give it a little slap, for good luck.

Anonymous No. 16274557

>>16274547
official clean feed here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogXamYYJpQk

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Anonymous No. 16274563

>>16274432
you should have greentexted that because you were directly quoting me

Anonymous No. 16274564

it looks like ariane 5, are we sure it's a new rocket

Anonymous No. 16274566

not clear, not watchin

Anonymous No. 16274567

>>16274409
*slow clap*

Anonymous No. 16274570

>>16274457
still retarded, easier to just synthesize methane directly
much easier to store for long times which you need to do for fuel

Anonymous No. 16274571

>>16274561
oh is this just going to be an A62 launch? I was hoping it was gonna be 64...

Anonymous No. 16274572

>>16274561
this is a new rocket? why does it look like that?

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Anonymous No. 16274573

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1810727898631819514

Anonymous No. 16274574

>>16274564
it's skinnier and taller and the boosters are much much smaller
A5 also had that distinct brick-like patterning on the bottom half
I'm still not sure if I like the way it looks desu

Anonymous No. 16274576

the esa twitter account says all tanks are filled, but shouldn't we see some venting if that's true?

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Anonymous No. 16274580

Man of Troon appears

Anonymous No. 16274582

>>16274571
Most of the payloads in the queue right now are things that were left stranded after Roscosmos shut down the Soyuz at CSG, and the 62 configuration is supposed to be the replacement for that. The 64 is for geostationary payloads and Arianespace isn't teeing one of those up for a while.

This isn't any of those payloads though. Today we've just got some small rideshares that were willing to take the first lemming risk.

Anonymous No. 16274583

https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1YqKDkPMWQOxV
ESA's twitter stream is up

Anonymous No. 16274587

>>16274573
Why is Musk talking to this grifting crypto faggot

Anonymous No. 16274589

>>16274587
Who would you like to talk to?

Anonymous No. 16274593

>>16274589
Im fine talking to /sfg/ as is. Not sure how thats related though.

Anonymous No. 16274594

ESA's promo video is trying really hard to make french guyana not look like the biggest shithole on earth

Anonymous No. 16274595

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWwxcVS4CdQ

Anonymous No. 16274597

>>16274594
How could you say that when the motherland France exists?

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Anonymous No. 16274599

does spaceflight have normally have fisticuffs?

Anonymous No. 16274601

>video starts
>it's all wymin
>moar wymin

Anonymous No. 16274604

>>16274601
Have sex chud

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>>16274595
great audio of clear's air conditioning unit humming

Anonymous No. 16274606

https://x.com/esa/status/1810740872499118583

ESA live ARIANE 6

Anonymous No. 16274607

>>16274601
EU is a gynogerontocracy.

Anonymous No. 16274608

>>16274599
Probably just a misunderstanding with his boyfriend.

Anonymous No. 16274609

>>16274595
i dont understand what she's saying

Anonymous No. 16274612

>>16274609
I assume it's a french accent

Anonymous No. 16274614

>>16274609
casual space nerd: watching clear streams even though you only understand her occasional engrish
hardcore space nerd: learning japanese (anime girl dialect) so you can understand her streams

Anonymous No. 16274615

>indians built it
Oh boy

Anonymous No. 16274617

>>16274594
that can't be possible as long as Haiti and african countries outside of their capitol city exist

Anonymous No. 16274619

>>16274615
this thing is gonna belly up

Anonymous No. 16274621

>>16274609
yeah, her japanese isn't very good

Anonymous No. 16274624

>>16274604
>stop noticing that we hate men!
>calling him a chud will surely put him in his place!
>hohohoho I am so clever

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Anonymous No. 16274626

STAGING

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>>16274623
>>16274623
>>16274623
>>16274623

Anonymous No. 16274628

why are you guys even watching these prelaunch talkathons
I have it muted until t-60

Anonymous No. 16274648

>T-00:10:00
Let's see how this goes

Anonymous No. 16274719

>>16273112
bruh, we don't even have any batteries viable for an hybrid-electric airliner, we're no way close to have fully electric airliner.

Batteries only make sense when energy density is not your primary concern.

Anonymous No. 16274822

>>16274435
Hydrogen makes no sense on aircraft (excluding zeppelin). You can't have an airplane were the fuel tanks leave no place for payload.

Anonymous No. 16274855

>>16274457
Butane is better

Anonymous No. 16275047

>>16274392
ELON MUSK VINDICATES THE SPACE SHUTTLE
>Barely sensible

Anonymous No. 16275117

>>16274399
1: I didn't realize you could just whip down to Worst Buy for a Starlink dish, partly because...
2: I didn't realize you could get it in a big city area like Houston because it's too dense for satellite service

Anonymous No. 16275146

>>16274822
Chunky wet-wing/lifting-body designs solve that. Hell, even Star Raker only needed better landing gear to be a true SSTO.