𧔠/sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 13:05:08 UTC No. 16268917
Saturn Super - edition
previous >>16266833
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 13:15:51 UTC No. 16268929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv2
what do we make of Elon's dancing style
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 13:19:39 UTC No. 16268934
>>16268929
https://x.com/esa/status/1809211677
Well Ariane 6 is finally coming along and will launch coming tuesday?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 13:19:48 UTC No. 16268935
Continuing Martian orbital mirror discussion
https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 13:21:38 UTC No. 16268940
>>16268934
Who cares? it's a dead rocket flying.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 13:23:17 UTC No. 16268942
>>16268917
>Saturn Super
How would you stage this beauty?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 13:23:34 UTC No. 16268943
>>16268940
Seethe it is european century in the space flight
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 13:24:03 UTC No. 16268945
>>16268940
Ariane 5s maiden launch failed, this might very well fail as well
H3 maiden launch failed
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 13:28:24 UTC No. 16268952
>>16268929
For all the youngsters I just want to put it into context: back in like 2005 there was no such thing as cringe, it was cool to be edgy. And dancing like this in the club was the move.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 13:28:53 UTC No. 16268953
>>16268952
Its a political attack, what else?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 13:31:21 UTC No. 16268955
>>16268945
I mean as in it's outdated and doomed to die before it even launches.
Who else besides european governments is gonna pay to fly on this thing? Even now it's only that and the ABSX market and the latter will move away from ariane when new glenn starts flying.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 13:39:07 UTC No. 16268960
>>16268917
What would you listen to while flying on this? Id listen to Niggers in Paris
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 13:51:18 UTC No. 16268970
>>16268955
Even the euro governments would rather fly Falcon 9 if not forced by french lobbying.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 14:13:01 UTC No. 16268981
So what starliner return date announced today?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 14:17:31 UTC No. 16268987
>>16268961
was this the largest vapor cone for 50 years?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 14:18:56 UTC No. 16268989
>>16268981
delayed for 45 more days
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 14:25:30 UTC No. 16268994
>>16268987
Probably the largest ever? Everything Starship does breaks records
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 14:35:18 UTC No. 16269001
https://spacenews.com/regulating-ou
Relevant since the Chevron Doctrine was thrown out. Congress needs a new authorization to delegate proper legally and lawful regulatory system to the agencies. One which doesn't stifle innovation but also makes certain it doesn't fall into a a no limit fallacy.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 14:39:20 UTC No. 16269003
>>16268943
You're just posting gibberish at this point. Go watch more American TV and movies and come back when you understand English.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 14:42:21 UTC No. 16269005
>>16269001
America needs a practical, moderate and well thought out space policy that involves executing Jeff without a trial, vaporizing every old space company and declaring Elon the king of space.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 14:53:26 UTC No. 16269013
>>16268955
>Who else besides european governments is gonna pay to fly on this thing?
European companies after they're legally forced to.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 15:12:01 UTC No. 16269020
>>16269001
Hopefully NEPA is next target.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 15:14:08 UTC No. 16269022
>>16268987
Idk if that counts, it was mostly unburnt fuel to precool the engines. They light up right after
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 15:22:26 UTC No. 16269028
>>16269003
hon hon hon I see mon supériorité has created certain controverse
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 15:23:52 UTC No. 16269030
>>16268819
Ok, letâs say you melt all the dry ice at the poles. You know that only raises the air pressure up to like 1.6% earth sea level right?
Where do you get the rest of the density needed to hit the Armstrong limit?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 15:36:33 UTC No. 16269046
>no dragon xl
>no vertical integration falcon heavy
>no extended falcon heavy fairing
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 15:37:49 UTC No. 16269047
>>16269046
>no Red Dragon
>no lunar Dragon flyby
>no land landing of Dragon
>no 7-seater Dragon
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 15:41:06 UTC No. 16269050
>>16268987
why are vapor cones reminiscent of supersonic shock-waves?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 15:42:56 UTC No. 16269052
>>16269047
>>16269046
>no powerpoint spaceflight
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 15:43:53 UTC No. 16269054
>>16269047
The 3 things I listed have existing contracts
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 15:46:42 UTC No. 16269056
Did someone say Dragonfly?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 15:47:43 UTC No. 16269059
have you guys heard about the recent 1 X 1 debate?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 15:47:56 UTC No. 16269060
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 15:50:31 UTC No. 16269065
>>16269056
No but now that you mentioned it Cancel Dragonfly not visiting the lakes not going to space
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 15:56:52 UTC No. 16269073
>>16269065
ultragay take
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 15:57:58 UTC No. 16269074
>>16268917
its still on page 9
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 15:58:03 UTC No. 16269075
>>16269030
First off those estimates are based only on whats visible from orbit, theres probably quite a bit more dry ice then we can see, so take that 1.6% as a lower bound rather than a max.
Secondly there are many other gas reservoirs than the poles, for just one example we were talking about perchlorate eating bacteria last thread and as it so happens that process makes pure oxygen as a by product. There is a lot of perchlorates on mars.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 15:59:13 UTC No. 16269079
>>16269074
No its not theres literally a screenshot at stage shut the fuck up
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:02:45 UTC No. 16269085
>>16269065
this is the way
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:06:04 UTC No. 16269090
>>16269085
this is the way of samefagging
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:15:17 UTC No. 16269102
>>16269090
Wrong I didnt samefag. Replying here to both for proof >>16269085 >>16269065
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:16:12 UTC No. 16269105
>>16269079
I can tell by your use of profanity that you're experiencing emotional distress, but that doesn't change the fact that it was staged early. pic is what you look like
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:16:18 UTC No. 16269106
Heres your proof and Im on mobile so I cant inspect element fake it you are officially BTFO
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:17:07 UTC No. 16269107
I can't keep track of all these falcon 9 clones
When will we see the first non-spacex orbital booster propulsive land and be used a second time
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:17:24 UTC No. 16269108
>>16269105
Time for you to go back to the sharty. I could recognize the awful wojak art from a mile away.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:19:49 UTC No. 16269110
>>16269107
Probably Blue or some random Chinese company in ~2025-2026
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:21:32 UTC No. 16269113
>>16268942
With the load shown you'd probably be SSTO
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:23:40 UTC No. 16269115
>>16269085
star wars!
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:25:12 UTC No. 16269117
>>16269110
This, I'm really interested to see who gets there first, bezos or the chinese.
Place your bets now.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:43:26 UTC No. 16269138
>>16269050
Vapor cones are just vapor cones, on jets the images are often mislabeled as being a supersonic shock wave
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:47:01 UTC No. 16269142
>>16269117
Bezos is doing it this September!
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:48:43 UTC No. 16269143
>>16269142
He's launching this september, not reusing a booster this september.
Do you remember?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:50:20 UTC No. 16269145
>>16269143
Hey Im paid to shill Blue not to remember details
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:55:58 UTC No. 16269154
>>16269083
kek
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:55:58 UTC No. 16269155
>>16269145
rampant falseflaggin in this thread
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:57:00 UTC No. 16269158
"How can it equal one?" he said. "If one times one equals one that means that two is of no value because one times itself has no effect. One times one equals two because the square root of four is two, so what's the square root of two? Should be one, but we're told it's two, and that cannot be."
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:57:02 UTC No. 16269159
>>16269145
The 21st night of September?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 16:58:22 UTC No. 16269160
>>16269046
>no dragon xl
It's the resupply module for Gateway.
>no vertical integration falcon heavy
SLC-6 at Vandenberg
>no extended falcon heavy fairing
First use is the HALO/PPE launch.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 17:00:01 UTC No. 16269162
>>16268917
The KitKat bar of space travel.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 17:03:41 UTC No. 16269171
>>16269158
something something Timecube
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 17:29:23 UTC No. 16269198
>>16269050
go watch the Scott Manley video on vapor cones dude
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 17:30:33 UTC No. 16269201
>>16269102
anybody can do that it doesn't prove shit, retard
>>16269155
yeah this thread is weirdly bad
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 17:32:09 UTC No. 16269202
>>16269083
>Dies at the end of every episode
>still comes back
He'll be fine
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 17:55:52 UTC No. 16269222
>>16269028
Wow, is that the French space station?
P.S. eat shit and die on earth
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 18:03:07 UTC No. 16269232
>>16269222
It may as well be. France was the number one contributor besides Russia
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 18:03:16 UTC No. 16269233
>>16269222
yeah, its a simple cylindrical construction. they call it the Flying Baguette
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 18:06:01 UTC No. 16269239
>>16269230
and I guess that is the current 120m version?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 18:11:31 UTC No. 16269245
>>16269230
cor, totally jelly of that model collection. i keep meaning to get the saturn V model that has the apollo stack that you can take out and handle etc.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 18:13:53 UTC No. 16269252
>>16269230
Kino
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 18:16:28 UTC No. 16269257
>>16269230
No shit lol
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 18:25:42 UTC No. 16269268
Why is Artemis 2 not happening this year? Ar1 flew in Dec 2022!
The next mission isnât until Q4 2025âthis is unacceptably slow
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 18:28:44 UTC No. 16269272
>>16269268
Because Lockheed invented a new way to install Avcoat on the Orion heatshield that would save a few weeks worth of time. Another pennywise and pound-foolish decision within Artemis.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 18:30:04 UTC No. 16269275
>>16269257
we found him. the only member of team space
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 18:32:28 UTC No. 16269278
>>16269257
Nice boat.
>>16269275
He doesn't have any chink rockets in the frame.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 18:41:55 UTC No. 16269289
>>16268955
They're going to do the same thing that ULA (and before that Boeing/Northrop) did, suckle the government tits. Not exactly ambitious, but it pays the bills
>>16268970
You know US government have to use US rockets by law right? Europe doesn't even have this law right now. IIRC, back then Arianespace even floated the idea of doing an "americanized" Ariane 5 to get this market.
>>16269230
Is that Ares I behind the shuttle? Looks like pure garbage
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 18:52:45 UTC No. 16269311
>>16269289
ESA should design a SX Super Heavy inspired reusable booster and offer it as some sort of âblock 3 SLSâ first stage to NASA. It could then be a partial ESA thing and they could launch it from french guiana. Orion, SUSIE, you could use A6âs second stage or EUS
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 18:56:04 UTC No. 16269314
>>16269311
ESA should just stop giving a fuck and drop spent stages on Russia + China.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 19:11:39 UTC No. 16269337
>>16269230
>redditor manlet playing with legos
Go back
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 19:15:19 UTC No. 16269342
>>16269201
Nigger please I just forgot to attach picrel to >>16269106
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 19:22:29 UTC No. 16269349
>>16269314
A friendly reminder that the EU has plently of good easterly launch locations, they just aren't on the land of the decision makers.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 19:24:17 UTC No. 16269352
>>16269349
Imagine trying to build a launch site in Spain. It would unironically take 200 years to complete
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 19:32:16 UTC No. 16269366
>>16269354
1990
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 19:40:25 UTC No. 16269377
It's UP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMK
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:04:32 UTC No. 16269405
>>16269402
Pity they didn't show the reignition of the booster's engines, those ground tracking views are always cool.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:05:44 UTC No. 16269408
>>16269405
It hurts my head how fast the booster flips. Every time it's happened, I assume it's going to fucking snap in half.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:08:53 UTC No. 16269411
>>16269406
Fuck off
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:10:01 UTC No. 16269412
>>16269408
IFT-1 highlighted just how ridiculously durable that launch system is, let alone IFT-4.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:20:20 UTC No. 16269420
https://youtu.be/DWJpCgFrFhU
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:21:20 UTC No. 16269424
>>16269420
That doesn't look like pic related
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:25:10 UTC No. 16269430
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:25:57 UTC No. 16269432
>>16269412
did they ever have any issues with pogoing or did booster just not give a fuck about that weak-rocket crap?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:27:00 UTC No. 16269434
>>16269424
what you posted isnt a starship
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:27:01 UTC No. 16269435
srb flames are so ugly
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:27:47 UTC No. 16269437
>>16269432
pogoing and such is a solveable problem, especially with modern CAD
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:28:39 UTC No. 16269440
>>16269435
Categorically incorrect. There is nothing sexier than a fat PLOOOM
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:28:43 UTC No. 16269441
>>16269432
I'm not entirely sure, but I think the harmonic oscillations that cause pogo might be harder to realize with so many separate engines.
>>16269434
Another Starship video, you say? Well, alright then
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:35:27 UTC No. 16269456
>>16269441
yeah good point. i seem to recall that its usually caused by propellant flow through large bore pipes, or something like that. been a while since i read about that stuff.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:44:24 UTC No. 16269478
>>16269443
pretty, though shiny particules are bad news when you're using a non-ablative heatshield
speaking of reentry in general, NASA, various universities and SpaceX itself are probably interested in getting more experimental data, so that their models stop being so shitty (see the reentering dragon trunks and the ISS battery pack)
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:46:46 UTC No. 16269481
>>16269478
It's not great, but erosion is a pretty common characteristic of heat shield tiles, which added to the maintenance burden of the space shuttles. Fortunately, SpaceX has the means, motivation, self-interest, and budgeting authority to keep developing and refining the tiles.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:55:39 UTC No. 16269491
>>16269426
>>16269430
Everything about that rocket is just so wrong. Designed in a spreadsheet.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:57:21 UTC No. 16269495
>>16269476
The flaps can increase the drag on that part of the vehicle, so you can orient it correctly as it falls through the atmosphere (shield side down)
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:59:16 UTC No. 16269498
>>16269481
Yeah I don't doubt they will get better.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 21:06:34 UTC No. 16269506
>>16269352
What about Gibraltar
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 21:12:25 UTC No. 16269513
>>16269478
die, french garbage
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 21:18:47 UTC No. 16269526
France has no part in space, like France has no future.
Troll somewhere else, fagguette.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 21:19:48 UTC No. 16269529
>>16269506
Are you suggesting a British space program?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 21:25:20 UTC No. 16269536
>>16269506
what about Cueta?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 21:29:34 UTC No. 16269538
>>16269529
Man I'm so disappointed the brits cancelled their space program, they actually had unique ideas about how to do it. We could've gotten some cool rockets out if it.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 21:30:47 UTC No. 16269540
>>16269538
i think they preferred socialism instead.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 21:32:18 UTC No. 16269542
>>16269349
Mediterranean launch sites were considered back in the seventies and were quickly rejected in favor of locations like the undeveloped jungles of French Guiana or politically stable eastern African nations like Kenya or Somalia. The Med is just too crowded in terms of shipping traffic and bureaucratic fiefdoms for launch permitting to work as a responsive process.
European regulatorism does not stop at the shore.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 21:36:46 UTC No. 16269546
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 21:41:40 UTC No. 16269553
>>16269546
it's the same retard troll as earlier
also "particule" is French, not English
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 21:42:15 UTC No. 16269555
>>16269482
>Detailed demos
pics?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 21:43:35 UTC No. 16269558
>>16269506
>implying Britain is more functional than Spain
lmao
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 21:46:37 UTC No. 16269561
>A desert moss could be the key to terraforming Mars, according to a recent study published by Chinese scientists.
>Due to its extraordinary resilience, Syntrichia caninervis (S. caninervis), a moss found in extreme desert environments from Tibet to Antarctica, has been touted a "pioneer plant" for establishing a livable environment on Mars. Basically, scientists believe this plant could enrich the planet's rocky surface to enable the growth of other plants.
A few studies have explored alternative possibilities of these terraforming seeds, such as algae and lichens. "However, plants such as mosses offer key benefits for terraforming, including stress tolerance, a high capacity for photoautotrophic growth, and the potential to produce substantial amounts of biomass under challenging conditions," the new study's team wrote in the paper.
>Mosses are believed to have been the first true land plants on Earth. As such, they developed a tolerance to extreme stress that allowed them to survive in our planet's very harsh early environment.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 21:49:21 UTC No. 16269563
>>16269561
>terraforming
>chinese scientists
Dropped. Go back to >>>/lit/sffg
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 21:49:33 UTC No. 16269564
>>16269558
>the Br*tish: Let's give up our space program because why not
embarrassing
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 21:50:49 UTC No. 16269565
>>16269542
>politically stable eastern African nations like,,, Somalia
lol what but were the Canary Islands considered?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 21:51:52 UTC No. 16269567
Easy to give mars an atmosphere, just build a giant solar mirror concentrator death ray in orbit, a bunch even, melt the poles and then slag giant molten craters to release CO2 and whatever other shit is trapped in the rocks that can be gassified with enough heat to dissociate bonds, could target some aquifers which are close to the surface too. You won't be able to breathe it but who gives a shit so long as you can go outside without a suit.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 21:55:36 UTC No. 16269571
>>16269542
could launch in mauritania east over the desert
or just north over the north atlantic
or stop being pussies crying about muh rockets might kill someone
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 21:55:58 UTC No. 16269573
>>16269561
even on Earth lichen grow in conditions that are too shitty for moss
apparently they can even survive hard vacuum
my money is on lichen
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 21:56:30 UTC No. 16269574
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:12:45 UTC No. 16269588
>>16269565
>Canary Islands
Going to an polar orbit you'd be dropping hyperbolic Ariane 1 stages on Mauritania and Senegal. Going to an equatorial orbit you'd be dropping them on Algeria and Lybia, and this was back in the days when Libya and ballistic missiles was a serious issue. That said, I'm pretty sure the Canaries was on a list at some point, even if it wasn't ever near the top.
>>16269571
Mauritania wasn't the worst place in Africa during the 1970s, but in 1978 President Moktar Ould Daddah, the French backed post-colonial dictator, was ousted in a coup and the country passed through a series of military juntas. Even if dropping stages in the desert was considered acceptable it just wasn't stable enough for a major European project like the Ariane 1. Besides, the launch market back then was focused on geostationary payloads and Europe was looking for something as equatorial as possible to maximize their competitiveness.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:14:03 UTC No. 16269590
>>16269565
which will have a manned space program first, the EU or African Union?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:16:36 UTC No. 16269592
>>16269590
EU is going to be part of africa soon by the rate the natives are getting replaced at.
So even if the EU is first, africa still wins.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:17:26 UTC No. 16269593
>>16269589
I wholeheartedly support dropping rockets on earthers
Total earther death
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:17:52 UTC No. 16269594
>>16269590
Oceania
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:20:05 UTC No. 16269595
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histo
>one astronaut in orbit (Mark Shuttleworth)
lol, lmao even
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:22:14 UTC No. 16269598
Jared Isaacman thought Polaris Dawn should be multiple missions at first because there are so many different test they are doing, but when he talked to Musk, Musk said to just do all of them in one mission
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:23:05 UTC No. 16269600
>>16269590
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afric
all it's missing is some Tusken Raiders
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:29:41 UTC No. 16269606
https://spacenews.com/foust-forward
>SpaceXâs Starship launch vehicle elicits strong opinions. Take, for example, Toni Tolker-Nielsen, ESAâs director of space transportation. Asked in a SpaceNews interview about how Starship might affect Europeâs Ariane 6, he was dismissive. âHonestly, I donât think Starship will be a game-changer or a real competitor,â he said, concluding that Starship was oversized for the types of satellites that would fly on Ariane 6. âStarship will not eradicate Ariane 6 at all.â
>âHow are we differentiated? Well, Falcon and Starship are rockets optimized for LEO operations,â said Tory Bruno, CEO of ULA, in a call with reporters June 26 about plans for his companyâs second Vulcan launch. He argued Vulcan was optimized for high-energy missions. âWeâre competing quite well.â
>âI caution against saying they still have a long way to go because every time weâve made that mistake in the past, they will be there. They will be ready. It will work,â said Arianespaceâs Rutgers of SpaceXâs Starship development, acknowledging that his company and others dismissed SpaceX in the past. âI caution against hubris, so we have to constantly improve ourselves.â
some cope commentary about Starship but one person from Arianespace being more realistic
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:32:16 UTC No. 16269608
>>16269606
>Starship will not eradicate Ariane 6 at all
That's only because F9 did that job already.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:34:13 UTC No. 16269609
>>16269495
thanks chat GPT, he didn't need an explanation for what the flaps do, he's asking why they made him emotional
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:35:44 UTC No. 16269610
>>16269542
just drop rockets into the Sahara
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:39:43 UTC No. 16269611
>>16269606
>Honestly, I donât think Starship will be a game-changer or a real competitor
They are funny aren't they
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:42:54 UTC No. 16269614
>>16269595
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hist
shieeet
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:45:11 UTC No. 16269616
>>16269615
>There were 63 total global launches in Q2 2024, a 40% YoY increase. The usual suspects, SpaceX and China, are once again leading the charge.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:46:13 UTC No. 16269618
>>16269616
>SpaceX launched 36 Falcon missions in Q2 2024, bringing the total for the first half of the year to 67 flights.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:47:35 UTC No. 16269620
>>16269617
It's over
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:48:45 UTC No. 16269621
>>16269606
>>16269608
>>16269611
They're hoping that SpaceX will not manage to repeat its success in booster reuse with Starship's two critical technologies: low cost ship reuse, and orbital refueling. The unspoken reality is that they don't have the business plan, cash flows, cash reserves, or investors to justify trying to develop a plan for it.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:50:22 UTC No. 16269624
>>16269617
remember that storms are rightfisted. The surge probably won't hit Boca. They might get a lot of rain tho'.
And I'm a bit concerned about Corpus Christi.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:50:50 UTC No. 16269625
https://x.com/torybruno/status/1806
didn't see discussion about this but apparently Bruno was whining about the plans on twitter
I know there was discussion about BO a bit
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:51:12 UTC No. 16269627
>>16269610
just drop rockets onto Subsaharan (black) africa
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:51:15 UTC No. 16269628
>>16269597
what's that say?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:51:50 UTC No. 16269629
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:52:26 UTC No. 16269630
>>16269617
There's no chance if this happening
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:53:56 UTC No. 16269633
>>16269614
It was a Chinese satellite paid for by Nigerians. Truly a stunning technological achievement for Africa (They managed to pay the bill, which requires at least a primitive understanding of money).
>NigComSat-1 was a Nigerian communication satellite. The initial contract to build the satellite was signed in 2004. It was launched in China by Nasrda and became the third African geosynchronous communication satellite, when it was launched at 16:01 UTC on 13 May 2007, aboard a Chinese Long March 3B carrier rocket, from the Xichang Satellite Launch Centre in China. The spacecraft was operated by Nigerian Communications Satellite Ltd (NIGCOMSAT). On November 11, 2008, NigComSat-1 failed in orbit after running out of power due to an anomaly in its solar array.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:54:20 UTC No. 16269634
>>16269625
>During the squabble over LC-39A more than a decade ago, Musk presciently told Space News that if Blue Origin showed up with a crew spacecraft that could dock with the space station within five years, SpaceX would gladly accommodate them. "Frankly, I think we are more likely to discover unicorns dancing in the flame duct," Musk said.
lmao
https://spacenews.com/37389musk-cal
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:54:44 UTC No. 16269635
>>16269627
Launch them from Subsaharan (black) africa
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:56:38 UTC No. 16269637
>>16269620
>it's over
the drought? yep
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:58:49 UTC No. 16269640
>>16269628
Do Not Remove
I?????ted Tile
I can't tell either
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 22:59:06 UTC No. 16269642
>>16269597
>>16269628
Instrumented Tile, I think
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 23:00:21 UTC No. 16269643
>>16269640
it definitely says "instrumented tile"
they put temperature sensors in a few of them
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 23:00:49 UTC No. 16269644
>>16269614
Oh my God, there's even a Stephen Clark (discount Berger) article on the nigsat:
https://spaceflightnow.com/news/n11
https://archive . is/8chTu
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 23:02:07 UTC No. 16269647
>>16269645
as expected from the meeting earlier this week
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 23:02:47 UTC No. 16269649
>>16269644
read the fucking comments
I'm dying
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 23:03:41 UTC No. 16269650
>>16269633
Chinks gave them a replacement and its still working
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 23:03:42 UTC No. 16269651
>>16269641
>leaving scaffolding up during the storm
seems risky af
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 23:05:41 UTC No. 16269654
>>16269647
I'm not sure if I should be surprised that they announced it so soon, or that they didn't announce it back on Wednesday with everything else
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 23:08:03 UTC No. 16269655
>>16269650
Africa doesn't have the best luck with purchased geostationary comsats. Angola went through the same thing buying Angosat 1 from Russia.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 23:11:27 UTC No. 16269661
Anonymous !niqjediPCA at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 23:12:12 UTC No. 16269663
>>16268917
new card, what do you think?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 23:13:25 UTC No. 16269665
>>16269662
why does the rocket need a foreskin?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 23:16:06 UTC No. 16269668
>>16269662
You'd lose a lot of performance. First you need to keep the weight of the fairings all the way to orbit instead of dropping them around the 200s mark, then you need to make them a lot heavier by adding an orbital-grade TPS. You could do it but you'd lose way too much payload to make it worth the effort.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 23:22:38 UTC No. 16269680
>>16269665
Because foreskin is great
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 23:44:40 UTC No. 16269695
>>16269650
>NigComSat
That's up there with ScatSat.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 23:50:29 UTC No. 16269698
>>16269695
The poos launched a satellite?
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 23:52:50 UTC No. 16269700
>>16269698
they launch quite a lot of stuff in fact
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Jul 2024 23:54:48 UTC No. 16269701
>>16269663
Woah
Very nice
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:01:17 UTC No. 16269705
>>16268917
why do space related threads on sci outside of sfg suck so much?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:02:51 UTC No. 16269707
>>16269695
>Skabadabadabadoobelidabbelydabblad
>Iâm the ScatSat
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:03:47 UTC No. 16269708
>>16269705
They get fed garbage and don't know what's what. It's not limited to sfg and space, but to all domains and their hobby groups.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:08:20 UTC No. 16269710
>>16269663
That's great, now let's see the numbers on performance. It's gonna get utterly MOGGED by solar panels.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:10:38 UTC No. 16269712
starbase is gonna get REKT by TOTAL ROCKET GENOCIDE HURRICANE BERYL. It's so over for SpaceX, they're gonna be held back 2 months.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:13:51 UTC No. 16269714
Starchica has been spared the brunt of the storm
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:16:07 UTC No. 16269716
>>16269567
And if you want nitrogen, import an assload of ammonia from the outer solar system. It will dissociate into N and H in the order of weeks, and the H will be lost into space.
Anonymous !niqjediPCA at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:17:14 UTC No. 16269717
>>16269710
>It's gonna get utterly MOGGED by solar panels.
no moving parts.
PV's have to get replaced every 20-30 years.
mine can run for centuries.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:29:14 UTC No. 16269726
>>16269721
So second of august?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:30:50 UTC No. 16269729
>>16269717
>mine can run for centuries
not with stirling engines lol. Fluids in the thermosyphon will need replacement too
>PV's have to get replaced every 20-30 years.
yes and? In 20-30 years solar panels will have improved. It will make sense to replace them. Your working temperature difference will be SHIT and thermocouples are SHIT. You may need 20-30 years just to break even on embodied energy. This idea is SHIT.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:33:24 UTC No. 16269731
Add two weeks to the two weeks you were already waiting for
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:33:51 UTC No. 16269732
>>16269721
yes
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:34:26 UTC No. 16269735
>>16269731
You know what happens after two weeks. Another two weeks starts.
Anonymous !niqjediPCA at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:35:39 UTC No. 16269736
>>16269729
>Fluids in the thermosyphon will need replacement too
Fluids = air (orange)
>In 20-30 years solar panels will have improved.
and mine will still be working.
>Your working temperature difference will be SHIT and thermocouples are SHIT.
pretty easy to maintain though.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:36:25 UTC No. 16269739
>>16269721
How are we tracking on the delay between launches halving each time?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:41:02 UTC No. 16269746
>>16269721
TWO PLUS TWO WEEKS
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:44:07 UTC No. 16269748
>>16269721
Shit I wanted to post that
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:45:24 UTC No. 16269751
>>16269739
~60 days down from 80-90 days previously
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:46:52 UTC No. 16269752
>>16269736
>air
good fucking luck making a practical thermosyphon with fucking air.
>and mine will still be working.
generating about as much power as a potato battery. It'd be more valuable to scrap it than to keep it running. Show your math that this can generate any significant amounts of power at all you reddit-spacing midwit tripfag
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:56:55 UTC No. 16269762
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 00:58:04 UTC No. 16269763
>>16269705
because /sfg/ regulars are naturally cross-boarders, rather than being /sci/zos from the rest of the board
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 01:00:30 UTC No. 16269765
two more sets of two weeks
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18093
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 01:04:56 UTC No. 16269767
>>16269721
2^2 weeks
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 01:22:41 UTC No. 16269773
>>16269763
This is false by the way.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 01:24:09 UTC No. 16269774
>>16269773
>>16269763
The first part is false about being crossboarders the second is true. By the way if youre crossboarder scum you arent welcome. Use /sfg/ exclusively or shut up about being a 'regular'
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 01:42:11 UTC No. 16269791
>>16269625
The ULA whining about a monopoly. Imagine showing this to someone in 2011
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 01:42:48 UTC No. 16269792
>>16269721
we been knew it was early aug
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 01:43:27 UTC No. 16269794
>>16269774
"crossboarder" meaning "only visits /sci/ for /sfg/"
The only time I even see the catalog is when we get a new thread, because I'd rather start a new fresh tab.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 01:48:22 UTC No. 16269800
>>16269721
4 weeks elon time. Probably 4 weeks and a few days to roughly 5 weeks in reality.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 01:52:59 UTC No. 16269807
>>16269230
>white ET on the shuttle
based
Anonymous !niqjediPCA at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 02:15:22 UTC No. 16269824
>>16269752
>practical
by what standard?
Anonymous !niqjediPCA at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 02:19:48 UTC No. 16269828
>>16269752
>Show your math that this can generate any significant amounts of power at all you reddit-spacing midwit tripfag
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 02:27:03 UTC No. 16269833
Tory is complaining about a monopoly when ULA did its best to have a monopoly on Air Force launches lmao
Anonymous !niqjediPCA at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 02:29:26 UTC No. 16269836
>>16269752
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq8
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 02:37:03 UTC No. 16269845
>>16269835
fake and gay
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 02:43:13 UTC No. 16269850
>>16269774
retard
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 02:45:54 UTC No. 16269855
>>16269835
that's a muffin
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 02:46:51 UTC No. 16269856
Since /sfg/ is apparently a meteorology thread now
https://x.com/MattDevittWX/status/1
>Beryl's potential landfall has shifted nearly *250 miles up the coast in just 24 hours* according to the latest consensus models (pink). Consequently, it'll spend more time over the warm water of the Gulf of Mexico. Impacts from Beryl are trending upward for the Houston/Galveston area as it approaches the Texas coast as a projected hurricane. To what degree? We'll know more on Saturday.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 02:48:13 UTC No. 16269858
SpaceX has deflected the hurricane.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 02:50:32 UTC No. 16269862
>>16269856
Eric Berger lives a double life as a weatherman
>https://www.wired.com/story/unlike
đïž Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 02:50:49 UTC No. 16269863
>>16269836
>>16269828
>>16269824
Kill yourself tripnigger
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 02:56:51 UTC No. 16269870
>>16269835
Why would the fireball be so uniform?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 03:01:03 UTC No. 16269875
>>16269856
Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates and the communist chinese are using their weather machines to stop SpaceX.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 03:02:24 UTC No. 16269878
>>16269612
what propellant is making it that color? Looks like powerade
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 03:03:49 UTC No. 16269882
>>16269668
so just make the rocket bigger. It's worth it if you're recovering everything
đïž Anonymous !niqjediPCA at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 03:10:19 UTC No. 16269890
>>16269863
is that literally the best you got?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 03:13:14 UTC No. 16269893
>>16269890
Kill yourself tripnigger
Anonymous !niqjediPCA at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 03:17:26 UTC No. 16269902
>>16269893
ill take that as a yes.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 03:19:11 UTC No. 16269904
>>16269774
Shut up fag. you don't make the rules.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 03:23:16 UTC No. 16269909
>>16269612
>>16269878
This claims they're working on methalox thrusters.
https://www.ansys.com/blog/axiom-sp
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 03:34:14 UTC No. 16269913
>>16269890
>>16269902
kill yourself, tripnigger
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 03:36:52 UTC No. 16269915
>didn't even notice the trip nigger because 4chan-x filtered him and all others for me
feels good lul
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 03:37:53 UTC No. 16269916
>>16269915
I should filter him so I literally can't see his posts but then I won't be able to report him when he inevitably breaks the rules
Anonymous !niqjediPCA at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 03:45:13 UTC No. 16269919
>>16269913
>Lamest insult ever.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 03:49:24 UTC No. 16269921
>>16269406
>that engine clench
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 04:00:39 UTC No. 16269932
>>16269662
This whole underside of the fairing would still be exposed. I don't know how it would handle reentry with the extra weight of the second stage. Also the heatshield would be much more complex and delicate than heatshields usually are. In the video it clips through both the top of the stage and the engine.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 04:03:21 UTC No. 16269933
Theories on why the hurricane is suddenly avoiding Boca Chica?
>Chinese weapons test gone wrong
>Starliner secretly crashed, Boeing used their weather machine to destroy the wreck near Houston and coverup
>Beryl has family in a leper colony off the coast and is coming to visit
>John Madden used the controls at his secret moon retirement home to alter the tidal waves
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 04:04:46 UTC No. 16269934
>>16269933
Real recognize real
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 04:06:11 UTC No. 16269936
>>16269828
I said show YOUR MATH. Did I fucking say wikipedia's math? NO! Did I say a youtuber's math. NO! I said YOUR MATH!
>>16269824
>>16269836
I don't see a single fucking number midwit
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 04:08:06 UTC No. 16269939
>>16269933
no FAA approval
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 04:09:13 UTC No. 16269940
>>16269933
starlink is a stronger HARP
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 04:16:51 UTC No. 16269948
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 04:19:45 UTC No. 16269949
>>16269230
a bit wonky
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 04:20:17 UTC No. 16269950
>>16269933
Bergerâs second law: anytime he says âscattered showersâ for houston, it really means some sort of life-threatening storm
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 04:44:03 UTC No. 16269968
>>16269721
August 15
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 05:04:19 UTC No. 16269976
>>16269882
Good idea!
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 05:19:03 UTC No. 16269991
>>16269933
This lil nigga too powerful
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 05:48:54 UTC No. 16270021
>>16269933
Musk has actual divine guidance and protection, that's why
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 05:49:37 UTC No. 16270023
Does spinning fast do anything special on reentry?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 05:53:31 UTC No. 16270027
>>16270023
Makes the debris field a little bigger
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 05:55:47 UTC No. 16270029
>>16269949
just like the real thing
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 06:38:56 UTC No. 16270042
>>16269573
Lichen is also sensitive to air quality so the sandstorms on Mars may be a problem.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 07:27:54 UTC No. 16270054
>>16270023
It's a good trick!
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 07:42:07 UTC No. 16270059
>>16270054
Anakin pls
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 07:46:37 UTC No. 16270060
>>16269933
The CIA
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 08:12:16 UTC No. 16270064
>>16269239
might need to remove ceiling panel for the longer one
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 08:20:53 UTC No. 16270068
>>16269555
I want detailed demos with the asian ladies in second place.
It's a scientific interest.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 08:45:20 UTC No. 16270081
>>16270029
That's a really cool photo
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 08:48:41 UTC No. 16270084
>watching asmongold
>he doesnt know humans are going back to the moon
if some nerd who lives on the internet 12 hours a day doesnt know something so basic then how can we expect the average normie? do the norms even know about spacex? that china has sent people to space? that we're very close to colonizing another planet?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 08:49:00 UTC No. 16270085
>>16269482
I know 15k is not a lot of money, to work with, but I love how this exemplifies the different flavours of terrible R&D
>the rocket surgeon has (presumably) barely working prototype niggerrigged from literal garbage only the inventer knows how to operate
>spuds team has some basic drawing that they will keep refining in academia for 20 years and write 30 different student studies but never actually do anything with it
>Designer wistfully looking to the side has a 3D render concept of fashionable bicycle shorts with a tube coming from it (how it works is left to engineers to figure out)
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 08:49:50 UTC No. 16270086
>>16270072
zoob wtf
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 09:11:12 UTC No. 16270099
>>16270084
>that we're very close to colonizing another planet?
I'm way too cynical to believe it, I have seen this topic coming and going since the 80s with a lot of empty promises and wild ideas and projects that at first glance look like they are going to put humanity to even the Kuiper Belt and several generations later there is still little political or economical will to actually commit people to it.
Yes, reusable rockets have cheapened putting things in orbit but there is a difference between launching small payloads, still near our atmosphere, and setting up a whole Lunar colony.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 09:14:38 UTC No. 16270103
>>16270084
No. Many normalfags just do not care.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 09:37:11 UTC No. 16270113
>>16270084
>that we're very close to colonizing another planet?
We aren't, but that depends also on what you mean by close and colonizing.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 09:58:55 UTC No. 16270125
They're stranded
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 10:13:33 UTC No. 16270134
>no FH extended fairing
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 10:20:08 UTC No. 16270137
>>16270084
Love me some asmongold
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 10:57:32 UTC No. 16270161
We will never colonize Lunar. At most we will have research stations set up there when we get reusable rockets. Maybe in the future it will act as a relay to Mars.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 11:00:21 UTC No. 16270164
>>16270161
Starmoon will be colonized
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 11:10:33 UTC No. 16270172
>>16270161
>Maybe in the future it will act as a relay to Mars.
Outed yourself as a newfag immediately
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 11:14:47 UTC No. 16270173
lunar railguns lobbing boulders at m*rs
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 11:24:22 UTC No. 16270177
>>16270161
>Lunar
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 11:25:45 UTC No. 16270179
>>16270177
That is the correct name for the moon of Terra, yes.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 11:28:51 UTC No. 16270180
>>16270179
N I G G
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 11:30:08 UTC No. 16270183
>>16270179
It's Luna you troglodyte
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 11:30:58 UTC No. 16270186
>>16270179
I should bait in these threads more often
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 11:31:48 UTC No. 16270187
>>16270179
>the moon of Terror
ftfy
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 11:33:09 UTC No. 16270188
>>16270187
lmao
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 11:41:59 UTC No. 16270192
>>16270179
Terra has no moon
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 11:58:30 UTC No. 16270206
>>16269022
whats this, when did it happen? Is this launch 4 somehow filmed from a boat?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 12:01:38 UTC No. 16270209
>>16269542
>European regulatorism does not stop at the shore.
Greatest issue with Europe is the only thing the innovate in is regulations.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 12:09:52 UTC No. 16270215
>>16269663
Very dependant on proximity to sun. How hot does a black body get at earth's orbit? That gives you your hotside temperature, Carnot theorem limits power enormously.
Way to get around this is to add mirrors. Concentrate the solar rays down to a much smaller thermal collector and you'll increase the BB temperature. You could even angle the mirrors via servo to get some degree of control over heating.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 12:11:16 UTC No. 16270218
>>16269736
>>Your working temperature difference will be SHIT and thermocouples are SHIT.
Concentrating lightwieght milar mirrors
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 12:14:55 UTC No. 16270220
>>16270218
>he still thinks mirrors are real
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 12:22:32 UTC No. 16270227
Project Lyra, a mission to catch up to 2017U1, the first known interstellar object to pass through our solar system, will use an Oberth manuever to accelerate a craft to >50km/s, however, there will be a ~17km/s difference during approach that will make a potential landing on the object impossible. Can the great minds of /sfg/ devise a way that the great minds of JPL etc couldn't?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 12:29:04 UTC No. 16270230
>>16270227
Lithobreaking to zero out velocity
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 12:37:20 UTC No. 16270236
>>16270227
scrape fast radio bursts for numanuma API keys and command a braking burn
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 12:39:49 UTC No. 16270240
>>16270227
A parachute to create drag and slow the craft down.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 12:43:19 UTC No. 16270242
>>16270206
Nah it's video from some buoy, I guess they either put some in the area they were targeting or there was already some there for whatever reason.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 12:47:06 UTC No. 16270245
why does this ULA shark keep biting people off of south padre
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 12:52:17 UTC No. 16270252
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 12:58:09 UTC No. 16270259
Starship is a dumb name. They shouldâve stuck with BFR
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 12:58:37 UTC No. 16270260
>>16270259
yup
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 13:05:08 UTC No. 16270265
>>16270236
you are worthy to join these two
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 13:07:29 UTC No. 16270266
>>16269663
What's driving the fluid flow?
Using air to transfer heat seems massively suboptimal.
If you're using a thermocouple why do you need a fluid to transfer heat at all?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 13:10:47 UTC No. 16270269
>>16269828
Fucking retard. Learn to recognize when you're wrong or just end it.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 13:16:59 UTC No. 16270274
>>16270023
If a spacecraft achieves sufficiently high angular velocity on reentry the crew will be killed.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 13:18:59 UTC No. 16270276
>>16270072
Don't get it twisted. He's only following this because it's his alt account.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 13:23:22 UTC No. 16270279
>>16270161
Elon has suggested building Moon Base Alpha. His crazy ideas are more likely to be realized than the plans of global superpowers.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 13:31:26 UTC No. 16270288
>>16269663
Fucking retarded.
Is this in space? Then your thermosiphon won't work unless you're spinning it, in which case how is it staying pointed at the sun? It's definitely not being actively pointed at the sun because your shitbox doesn't have any moving parts.
If it's on earth you should just use the ground as a heat sink.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 13:36:28 UTC No. 16270290
>>16270218
>no moving parts
>concentrating mirrors
how does it maintain a constant angle to the sun?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 13:39:08 UTC No. 16270291
>They continue to reply to the tripfaggot
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 13:54:44 UTC No. 16270300
>>16270279
>Elon will bring us John Madden
Future is bright
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 14:10:04 UTC No. 16270315
I used to hate Elon but he is the only one pushing humanity forward.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 14:12:52 UTC No. 16270320
>>16270315
hate him for what? faggot
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 14:14:11 UTC No. 16270322
>>16270320
For being a kike faggot, niggerfaggot.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 14:14:45 UTC No. 16270325
>>16270320
having sex
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 14:15:50 UTC No. 16270328
>>16270322
something he has to do to get the jews off his back
whether you believe in some conspiracy or not, they are a very influential minority in the US and worldwide
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 14:17:45 UTC No. 16270329
>>16270322
Was that a humiliation ritual?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 14:19:46 UTC No. 16270331
>>16270328
Doesn't matter. He still bent the knee to them, as the west has done for the past 70 years.
The thought of a future human space civilisation where Jews haven't been totally eradicated makes me shudder.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 14:19:56 UTC No. 16270332
>>16270322
Go back to >>>/pol/ retard
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 14:20:34 UTC No. 16270333
Poland can into space
https://youtu.be/4bySNlqMwss
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 14:22:00 UTC No. 16270336
>>16270332
You should go back to R3ddit.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 14:22:55 UTC No. 16270337
>>16270333
What is behind that door?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 14:24:40 UTC No. 16270339
>>16270331
he isn't powerful enough to ignore them (yet) and it would require a more general cultural shift to stop treating them as some oppressed minority group (or treating minority groups in a special way in general)
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 14:40:37 UTC No. 16270349
>>16270337
the rest of the building visible in the background when it's not wheeled out of the way for the launch
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 14:43:29 UTC No. 16270353
>>16270337
Andoya is such a beautiful launch site, wish it was used more.
>>16270349
Oh, right, lol.
Thanks
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 14:50:29 UTC No. 16270357
>>16270349
so silly
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 14:57:11 UTC No. 16270361
>>16270227
17 km/s isn't actually that hard to get with a decent ion drive. An 8000s isp engine could get that sort of performance with a mass ratio of less that 2. The only problem is that when you're 180+ AU out into the abyss nuclear is your only real option for power and that puts a fairly large minimum size on your spacecraft. Project Lyra itself is even worse because a lot of that speed is coming from the mother of all Oberth maneuvers, which requires its own propellant as well as the sturdiest thermal protection system ever designed, neither of which are going to be very light. I've seen a few proposals for sundiving probes that used a discarding heat shield on the way in and a solar sail for acceleration on the way out, but if you're carrying a reactor that's not going to be a viable option.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 15:57:54 UTC No. 16270414
>>16270072
kek
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:10:48 UTC No. 16270423
>>16270227
BNTP with water propellant and a Horizon Drive for the electric cycle.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:23:38 UTC No. 16270433
Orbotal flight test 5
august 15
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:34:01 UTC No. 16270440
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3d
>Starbase Weekly, Ep.123: Boca Chica Tower B Ready To Stack!
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:35:27 UTC No. 16270442
Countries buying flights from Axiom for clout is the microwave food equivalent of a space program
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:38:42 UTC No. 16270443
>>16270442
UAE's space probe was built by Pajeets and Americans, what would that be?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:38:45 UTC No. 16270444
>>16270072
based zubby
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:55:50 UTC No. 16270462
>>16270361
Project Lyra is baselined around Atlas V and other similar rockets. Baseline it around an in-orbit assembled stack based on Starship and the mission's C3 becomes absolutely silly.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:59:21 UTC No. 16270467
> I believe him. I have been taking a robotaxi to the local hyperloop to the space port so i can take a quick hop in starship to london for a pint and back. All because of him and his dreams.
How long until this is possible?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 17:10:31 UTC No. 16270474
Hey guys, so anything exciting happening?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 17:11:30 UTC No. 16270475
>>16270474
RGV live is looking at rusty pipes
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 17:11:40 UTC No. 16270476
>>16270474
Starbase is halted for the hurricane
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 17:13:04 UTC No. 16270478
>>16270443
Orbital doordash.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 17:13:33 UTC No. 16270479
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 17:23:29 UTC No. 16270488
so why they didn't build a trench for the 1st tower again?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 17:27:50 UTC No. 16270492
>>16270488
not 100% sure about this but I remember hearing something about additional EPA shit if they did that
so would have taken more time
why didn't they put the steel plate before IFT-1? because it would have slowed them down, the concrete would have to be removed anyway for more piles and they didn't think it would have been destroyed this fully, but turns out it wasn't really that big of a deal (maybe lost on time on some more EPA or FAA shit but who knows
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 17:27:52 UTC No. 16270493
>>16270488
A trench adds more surfaces that need upkeep against rocket impingement. A strictly open pad has no surfaces to maintain. A strictly open pad is in conflict with the reality that there are things around the pad that are not going to have a good time dealing with the flame plume, so it's better to have a surface whose specific purpose is only dealing with the flame plume.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 17:33:23 UTC No. 16270498
>>16270474
Launch in 2 weeks, Elon going to prison, Kamala is president
Bankruptcy soon
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 17:40:55 UTC No. 16270507
>>16270488
They tried to, but environmental delays would have added months of delay, so they launched without it. Failing that, they create a water cooling solution. And now, doing trenches. I think they're trying to see which one is more viable with A/B for trench vs water cooler
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 17:41:37 UTC No. 16270511
>>16270507
water cooled trench
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 17:42:31 UTC No. 16270513
>>16270509
https://www.myfaceinspace.com/
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 17:44:09 UTC No. 16270518
>>16270513
>soifaceinspace
Makes you hope there is no other life in the universe, in case they'll die out of vicarious embarrassment from what we leave behind.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 17:45:43 UTC No. 16270521
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 17:47:29 UTC No. 16270523
>>16270511
the masseys static fire pad has a partially water cooled trench
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 17:48:15 UTC No. 16270525
>>16270084
clip or stream link to when he said that?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 18:22:08 UTC No. 16270554
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 18:32:50 UTC No. 16270563
>>16269625
>t-they're not outcompeting us look at this chart!
>NOOOOO THEY'RE OUTCOMPETING US THIS IS A MONOPOLY, ENVIROTARDS PLEASE HALP!
i have seriously lost all respect for this snake over the past 2 years, constant blatant lying from a person who very clearly has the engineering knowledge to know better.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 18:47:37 UTC No. 16270579
>>16270479
that's where they keep the slaves who have to manually push waterpumps for the deluge system.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 18:49:09 UTC No. 16270582
>>16270467
hyperloop will never be real on Earth probably
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 18:50:59 UTC No. 16270585
>>16270521
>we'll put your face on our screensaver
bruh
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 18:59:48 UTC No. 16270592
>>16270585
as much as i would never bother with it, it's genius because they're playing into the reality that most normies are hilariously vane and superficial and would absolutely pay for something completely meaningless like this.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 19:00:54 UTC No. 16270594
>>16270592
I was thinking about it and would have submitted a picture of my Cirno fumofumo
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 19:02:00 UTC No. 16270595
>>16269625
The last sentence does not at all follow from the first 3 lmao. Lobby Congress to do away with exclusion zones and EPA rules you faggot snake, Tory. Hell, have them change the laws to fly overland and your poor little ears won't hurt ever again
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 19:05:30 UTC No. 16270597
>>16269634
>11 years later and Boeing's capsule has launched crew once and they're currently stuck on the station
>Atlas V is also dead because of political climate
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 19:05:54 UTC No. 16270598
>>16270563
If they are complaining about 40 Starship launches a year, I have some bad news for them...
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 19:07:05 UTC No. 16270600
>>16270594
that's not a bad idea honestly.
i don't like having my picture taken regardless, but sending a fumo face up there, even in image form, mite b good.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 19:08:10 UTC No. 16270603
>>16270551
All these feel like itar sensitive information
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 19:25:17 UTC No. 16270624
>>16270084
asmongold is a troglodyte that doesn't go outside and doesn't take care of himself. Not exactly a good representation of a normal person
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 20:03:44 UTC No. 16270667
Imagine the gall of Space X. They're trying to launch rockets from a launch complex.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 20:15:01 UTC No. 16270687
>>16270620
There she is
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 20:22:00 UTC No. 16270692
>>16270622
Is he /ourguy/?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 20:24:15 UTC No. 16270697
>>16270467
Prob won't for another 15 years.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 20:24:58 UTC No. 16270698
>>16270624
also his name is ass mongoloid
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 20:48:32 UTC No. 16270715
>>16270084
Baldy ain't normal
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:00:18 UTC No. 16270729
>>16270603
I don't think the plumbing is ITAR sensitive but the sensors, pumps and cooling probably is
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:10:27 UTC No. 16270741
>>16270729
It's all a certain series of plumbing that runs afoul of ITAR. The only reason its out in public is because public analysis from public space imagery. This is absolutely helping other companies and countries develop rockets.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:14:24 UTC No. 16270749
>>16270551
>rapid interation
>15 years into design
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:18:24 UTC No. 16270755
>>16270603
>>16270729
ITAR isn't the ring watcher autists' problem
It's a problem for the retards that is leaving shit out in an aera where there are known photographers literally everywhere
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:19:25 UTC No. 16270757
>>16270084
>do the norms even know about spacex?
no. often they don't even know the first thing, I'm not exaggerating. It feels like bringing up the space shuttle or the ISS and the person you're talking to only knows about the moon landing.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:26:51 UTC No. 16270766
Hello guys does someone know which board has the Christianity general? I need to ask those guys something and if I don't get to I'll have to post my off-topic shit here.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:27:52 UTC No. 16270767
>>16270729
AAAAAAAAA I'm a sucker for pump and really need to know what they look like
REEEEEEEEEEEE
picrel is rare type of pump
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:29:30 UTC No. 16270768
>>16270749
Raptor has legit been than long in development apparently
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:30:23 UTC No. 16270769
>>16270757
>only knows about the moon landing.
lol they don't.
i know more about apollo than every boomer i talk to who was there to witness it.
engineering is just a pretty niche interest most people don't care and most aren't intelligent enough to understand
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:32:47 UTC No. 16270771
>>16270768
it is also the most important part.
it needs to have incredibly insane thrust for nozzle area otherwise you're back to zero payload and building a carbon fiber meme booster
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:35:18 UTC No. 16270775
>>16270766
/his/
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:37:14 UTC No. 16270777
>>16270775
I can't fucking find it
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:42:50 UTC No. 16270781
>>16270777
It doesn't exist.
4chan is a small website and most of it is garbage, most generals aren't as consistent as this one either.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:44:32 UTC No. 16270783
>>16270781
it's over
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:46:14 UTC No. 16270788
>>16270783
>>16270786
>in 10 years there will be rows of these in flawda, launching every few hours
we aint ready
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:47:30 UTC No. 16270789
>>16270788
Total homeowner death
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:48:29 UTC No. 16270790
>>16270789
What if in 10 years dramatic sealevel rise floods Cape Canaveral?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:48:45 UTC No. 16270791
>>16270788
>in flawda
>launching every few hours
Every F9 launching there is very loud already.
There is zero chance the nimbyists are going to put up with it.
The sea launch platforms are going to be necessary.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:51:00 UTC No. 16270796
>>16270790
They will just build a giant wall around the whole state. There are too many rich people and too many trillions of dollars in real estate and assets to just let it be destroyed
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:51:28 UTC No. 16270797
>>16270789
Florida is going to depopulate anyway in the next few decades with ever rising number of superstorms and the fact that the entire peninsula is sinking in to the ocean.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:53:59 UTC No. 16270800
>>16270796
they can be like Netherlands
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:57:07 UTC No. 16270802
>>16270796
Lol, this is the US, even if it's possible economicaly and technicaly to build deltaworks like that, it will never happen because of corruption&nepotism.
Take the commiefornia high speed rail project for example, that project is so far behind, so far over budget, in lawsuit with every other nutjob&greenfag group&etc... that most people who work on the project are already saying they will never see it complete in their lifetime.
And that's just a fucking railroad.
Now compare that to building dams&etc.. on the entire coastline of florida.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:57:39 UTC No. 16270803
>>16270797
>rising number of superstorms
Yeah I dunno why you would live somewhere that gets absolutely devastated at least once a decade
>entire peninsula is sinking in to the ocean
Nothingburger. They're talking about a few cm. Currently it has risen not at all.
10 meters would still be fine which is not happening the next hundreds of years.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 21:58:33 UTC No. 16270805
>>16270803
>Nothingburger. They're talking about a few cm. Currently it has risen not at all.
>10 meters would still be fine which is not happening the next hundreds of years.
Not talking about the ocean rising, talking about the sinkholes all over the place.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:00:17 UTC No. 16270807
>>16270805
Ah just dredge up sand from the ocean and put it in the hole.
It is that easy in sinkholefillery
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:00:26 UTC No. 16270809
Does Netherlands need to pump all the rainwater back into the sea
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:04:52 UTC No. 16270813
Would the instruments we've had on Mars have discovered if it had huge Methane stores like the Earth has?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:05:55 UTC No. 16270815
>>16270809
Yes, the netherlands has a shitload of pumps all over the coast, and a lot of areas to store freshwater when it's hightide.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:06:23 UTC No. 16270817
>>16270813
Perseverance' dowsing rods can only detect water
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:08:55 UTC No. 16270819
>>16270807
Yes, and no.
I'm going to be a dick here to make a example.
Where are you going to take that sand from, are you going to destroy a area in the sea to take that sand?
Green&wildlife organizations will start a shitload of lawsuits against you for trying to get that sand.
Or what about the sand shortage problem because of concrete demands?
Should that sand not be better used for the US concrete industry then filling up some hole?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:14:35 UTC No. 16270828
>>16270819
>>16270807
there is a simple solution. give florida to the swampkrauts, we will force you to speak our awful language, and we will launch andre kuipers on from the starship pad being built near LC-39A, he will go to Europe (the moon) and polder it.
and then we will save your state and stop it from flooding, we'll even make it 20% bigger as a bonus.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:14:56 UTC No. 16270832
>>16270813
Hydrocarbons would be a lot less useful on mars though cause you need to still electrolyze water to get oxygen.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:15:46 UTC No. 16270834
>>16270819
Aren't dykes made of clay anyway? Sand is very water permeable. Hopefully Florida has some clay.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:17:20 UTC No. 16270838
>>16270813
>>16270832
this, plus you get some heat back by converting the hydrogen (that you get anyway from water) into methane
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:21:18 UTC No. 16270844
>>16270834
only the outer layer needs to be made of clay, topped with a thick layer of grass, the core can all be sand, and the part closer to sealevel should be rough rocks to break waves.
though for the parts of your coast that see the most wave action, if you really wanna future proof it, you might want something like picrel.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:26:31 UTC No. 16270846
>>16270828
kek
I support this. replace their poptards with stroopwaffeln
>>16270834
quite a bit of the NL coast is concrete dams. still need a lot of sand for that as aggregate.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:33:07 UTC No. 16270849
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeela
https://watersnoodmuseum.nl/
I visited zeeland a couple of years ago and went to the museum they build out of ww2 D day pontoons.
There you will see that building dams is not that easy and it was already a massive project for a small nation like holland.
I dont see the US doing the same for the entire florida coastline.
It was also funny to find out that a lot of land reclaiming in holland was done by lifestock shitting all over the place and raising the ground level that way.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:36:54 UTC No. 16270854
>>16270849
>it was already a massive project for a small nation like holland
yeah, in the 17th century. we've learned a thing or two about infrastructure projects since then.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:39:17 UTC No. 16270857
Interesting I was just thinking how easy it is in dykery. I mean when you do the math each floridaman would essentially have to pay for only 0.1 meters of dam which really isn't a lot.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:40:07 UTC No. 16270858
What radius around a Starship launch at the edge of which it is as loud as an airliner from the ground?
Are there a lot of places like that?
Cause then I'm a overland launch shill from now on.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:41:59 UTC No. 16270859
>>16270858
As loud as an airliner at cruising altitude while you're on the ground
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:42:18 UTC No. 16270860
>>16270849
how come the excuse literally every time the US doesn't have something a smaller nation does have is "oh well it's because we're too big see".
The US has more than enough money, knowhow, people and industry to protect florida in the same way the netherlands did.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:43:47 UTC No. 16270862
>>16270860
>>16270802
I will believe the US can build dams to save florida the day they finish the commiefornia high speed rail.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:48:02 UTC No. 16270865
>>16270862
i'll believe florida is in any danger at all the day real estate prices in miami start dropping
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:48:38 UTC No. 16270867
>>16270865
two more weeks.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:55:01 UTC No. 16270871
>>16270766
/x/ has /ceg/ which is probably what you wanted since you are asking 4chan questions about Christianity
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:55:31 UTC No. 16270872
>>16270869
I'm not going to read all that.
Give me a short version.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:56:06 UTC No. 16270873
>>16270871
thanks I'll ask them I guess
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:07:07 UTC No. 16270880
Stage this dogshit already
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:08:07 UTC No. 16270883
>>16270872
3D Artist claims that the Super Heavy nuke pic is real
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:08:12 UTC No. 16270884
>>16270860
Anon Florida has five times more coastline and a quarter the population density. And hurricanes. You're just wrong I'm afraid
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:09:39 UTC No. 16270885
>>16270884
false. all coastlines have infinite length.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:11:05 UTC No. 16270887
>>16270880
Staging is not going to help, there are no news and starbase is closed, the storm is going to miss starbase as well
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:11:12 UTC No. 16270889
>>16270885
Some infinites are larger than others. Florida's is five times larger
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:11:37 UTC No. 16270890
>>16270884
concerning the cost question see:
>>16270857
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:11:44 UTC No. 16270891
>>16270880
shut up fag
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:12:06 UTC No. 16270892
>>16270889
no infinities are larger than others by a scalar factor
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:15:08 UTC No. 16270895
>>16270880
Fuck off, it's interesting.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:15:16 UTC No. 16270896
>>16270072
maybe he's going senile
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:16:11 UTC No. 16270898
>>16270890
Well that would also completely annihilate one of the most unique ecosystems in the world
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:17:57 UTC No. 16270900
>>16270895
Fucking redditor the most interesting thing there was this thread was the lego models and only manchild subhumans like that shit.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:19:19 UTC No. 16270902
>>16270898
wouldn't dramatic sea level rise annihilate the Everglades anyway?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:19:52 UTC No. 16270903
>>16270902
It would, but it's not going to happen anyways.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:19:57 UTC No. 16270904
>>16270902
No they'd just move
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:23:31 UTC No. 16270907
>>16270900
I really hate instant gratification zoomers like you.
>>16270902
And san andreas fault line big one is overdue, and yellowstone is a whole other problem.
you cant really do anything about those kind of things.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:28:17 UTC No. 16270911
>>16270892
N = 2 x N ?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:30:35 UTC No. 16270913
>>16270911
N = 0
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:31:17 UTC No. 16270916
>>16270912
They had to scale back a bit, this is their lastest design.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:33:34 UTC No. 16270918
>>16270913
Sorry, I meant the natural numbers have the same cardinality as the cartesian product of a set with two elements and the natural numbers.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:36:44 UTC No. 16270921
>>16270912
They're currently testing a 24 ton to LEO heavy launch water heater, according to their website. Seems legit!
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:42:09 UTC No. 16270924
>>16270921
>Ecorocket Heavy
It's been a long while since we talked about this flying nightmare
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:44:11 UTC No. 16270926
>>16270925
>378 days of sealed farts
Imagine.
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:44:46 UTC No. 16270927
>>16270912
Forget that, when are we getting the stabilo?
Anonymous at Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:52:38 UTC No. 16270931
>>16270927
I have seen this before.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 00:02:07 UTC No. 16270936
>>16270924
>>16270921
>>16270912
They released a video TODAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e40
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 00:03:15 UTC No. 16270937
>>16270936
>The development of the CER-160TR product is in line with ARCA's policy of producing exclusively defensive, non-lethal weapons, with the proceeds being allocated to the development of the civilian AMi Exploration and EcoRocket programs.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 00:08:33 UTC No. 16270946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lih
Just watched this video someone linked a few threads back.
My god, I've never seen such a clear example of the dunning-krueger effect in the wild. He talks so confidently about he clearly knows little about. He doesn't even know how little he knows.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 00:10:19 UTC No. 16270948
>>16270944
That's a snow cone maker.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 00:10:58 UTC No. 16270949
>>16270946
>exoplanetfag whining because based Kyplanet shat on Trappist-1
Sad!
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 00:12:42 UTC No. 16270951
>>16270949
If he shat on the trappist system he was right to.
He's still a retard about solar system colonization.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 00:13:33 UTC No. 16270952
>>16270936
this is epic
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 00:14:32 UTC No. 16270954
>>16270791
when starship is required to launch starshield v2, it won't matter what nimbys think
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 00:14:39 UTC No. 16270955
>>16270946
There's a lot of slop on youtube.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 00:14:46 UTC No. 16270956
>>16270944
It looks like those are supposed to be training MIRVs for interceptor testing, which isn't the dumbest product to try and bring to market
>CER-160
>20 km, Mach 1.9
>CER-500
>30 km, Mach 2.1
>CER-1200
>40 km, Mach 2.6
Have we ever seen a steam rocket that could come anywhere close to these specs? The CER-160 they're showing off in the video looks like it could barely do 200m horizontal.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 00:22:05 UTC No. 16270959
>>16270885
Based and fractal pilled
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 00:24:47 UTC No. 16270960
>>16270883
Nuke from doing what? falling over? Remember there was a lot of gas coming out from a blown engine.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 00:37:36 UTC No. 16270964
>>16270946
Yeah I watched that, couldn't believe how much of it was wrong. There's a new trend among EDS space fans where they're moon over Mars.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 01:02:28 UTC No. 16270971
>>16270788
>every few hours
You mean each pad every few hours right? The cape is gonna look like DFW pretty soon
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 01:11:19 UTC No. 16270973
>>16270960
Yes the leaked picture
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 01:21:13 UTC No. 16270977
>>16270964
Honestly the harder he denies he has EDS the more it seems like he does.
Like if you're on a date and the girl unprompted goes on a 5 minute spiel about how she definitely doesn't have aids.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 01:21:59 UTC No. 16270978
>>16270956
>>16270944
It's "interesting" that they never show views from the "rockets" or any wide angles. You can clearly hear that the audio ends like 3 seconds after launch so there's no way any of those are going higher than a $20 model rocket would, and these are presumably without any payload.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 01:23:02 UTC No. 16270979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSi
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 01:25:55 UTC No. 16270980
>>16270979
buy an ad
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 01:26:38 UTC No. 16270981
>The cause of the breakup remains unclear, but LeoLabs, which was the first to publicly report the event, believes that a âlow-intensity explosionâ either from a collision or within the spacecraft itself created the debris.
https://spacenews.com/low-intensity
why does everyone refuse to say whether it was an accident or destroyed on purpose? people know but they're keeping it hush hush. reminds me of nord stream.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 01:34:56 UTC No. 16270987
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 01:36:32 UTC No. 16270988
>>16270979
kindve a handsome guy
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 02:11:25 UTC No. 16271007
>>16270988
Kind've? Kind have?
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 02:15:04 UTC No. 16271008
>>16271007
Kind of, retard
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 02:16:48 UTC No. 16271010
>>16270978
I am 100% certain that some of my old Estes rockets are beating this thing on altitude.
>>16270981
No one really gains anything by public speculation, and that's all we can really do at this point.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 02:20:03 UTC No. 16271012
>>16270964
>There's a new trend among EDS space fans where they're moon over Mars.
>new
This is the continuation of SLS fanboyism now that Starship exists.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 02:22:18 UTC No. 16271014
>>16271008
"Kind of" abbreviated "kindve"?
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 02:24:08 UTC No. 16271016
>>16271007
I could care less if its wrong.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 02:26:47 UTC No. 16271018
>>16271014
Assuming your ESL, but yeah. You have lot's to learn
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 02:28:25 UTC No. 16271019
>>16271018
Icy! Thank's
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 02:30:31 UTC No. 16271020
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 02:31:42 UTC No. 16271021
>>16270911
yeah but [math]2 \mathbb{N} > \mathbb{N}[/math] isn't a mathematically valid statement
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 02:38:28 UTC No. 16271026
>>16271021
yes, but "larger by a scalar factor" is
N = 2 x N
not
N > 2 x N
which would be "larger than a scalar factor"
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 02:39:55 UTC No. 16271027
>>16271021
6 is larger than 3 by a factor of 2
6 = 2 * 3
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 03:25:17 UTC No. 16271035
>>16271027
well then, if sets worked exactly the same way as individual real numbers did then you might have a point
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 03:42:35 UTC No. 16271040
Kinda.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 03:44:34 UTC No. 16271042
>>16271035
Assuming your ESL. You have lot's too learn
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 03:58:59 UTC No. 16271051
>>16271043
ă·ăăŻăœăąă
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 04:22:19 UTC No. 16271065
>>16271043
She's gorgeous, beautiful girl
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 04:47:43 UTC No. 16271083
>>16269349
>All falied rockets take out a neighborhood in Telaviv
Based
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 05:22:37 UTC No. 16271100
Need rocket launch
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 05:28:37 UTC No. 16271106
best I can do is a thread launch
>>16271105
>>16271105
>>16271105
>>16271105
>>16271105
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 05:28:43 UTC No. 16271107
>>16271100
Drive to a nearby Hobby Lobby and buy some
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 05:29:02 UTC No. 16271108
>>16270099
Hey at least the CGI vaporwave had gotten prettier
>fellow oldfag
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jul 2024 07:26:23 UTC No. 16271226
>>16270985
if he didn't want to get called a gypsy maybe he shouldn't be scamming people?