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🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General

Anonymous No. 16284672

SpaceX moving to Starbase edition

previous >>16281941

Anonymous No. 16284675

Reminder that Europa Clipper might be delayed for a year because a contractor sold NASA faulty transistors.

Anonymous No. 16284678

Now that Dragonfly's chief flight systems engineer has been replaced with a diversity hire how can we expect Dragonfly to reliably land.

Anonymous No. 16284682

Tesla, Elon, X, and SpaceX.

TEXAS

Anonymous No. 16284683

Muskrat containment thread

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Anonymous No. 16284684

>>16284672
is he brining retarded commiefagia politics also with the outfits?

Anonymous No. 16284686

https://x.com/LabPadre/status/1813493405583876412
>Tower Module 3 [ of 9 ] has been moved to the Launch Complex.
Maybe mid august isn't such a pipe dream

Anonymous No. 16284689

>>16284686
Tower stacking has zero impact on when the launch will happen.

Anonymous No. 16284696

>>16284689
The massive investment and genuine forced hustle culture by the world's best engineers and tradesmen speaks volumes. This "git-r-done" mentality, is both Texas-style retarded and pure genius at the same time. You have to admit, it gets results far better than any other methods, given reality as such. It takes a madman to lead that charge forward, abject stupidity must be stamped out by any means necessary, which is why its easy to draw parallels and a synergy between Musk and Trump.

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Anonymous No. 16284700

https://x.com/macroflaneur/status/1813348901207896322

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Anonymous No. 16284701

SPEHS

Anonymous No. 16284702

>>16284700
>AGI is due

Anonymous No. 16284707

>>16284700
>grey tribe

We just call them Jews. What is this gay normie safe speak referring to?

Anonymous No. 16284710

Is there a counter anywhere for how long the starliner crew have been up there?

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Anonymous No. 16284711

>>16284700
https://x.com/elon_docs/status/1813401219106259028

Anonymous No. 16284712

>>16284702
It really is, the compute is there, stupid meatoids are just trying to figure out how to make it work. Look at the progress over the last two years, dissolving fractal nightmare images to perfect waifu coom material. And that's using 1970s transformer architecture. AI luddites are the dumbest motherfuckers out there, y'all still talking about fucking HANDS.

Anonymous No. 16284713

>>16284707
Musk/thiel/a16z aren't jews
Jews do control the government though

Anonymous No. 16284714

>>16284707
i have no idea, probably some new meme
perhaps it refers to some apolitical business people faction that don't really care about politics too much generally other than if it affects their business

Anonymous No. 16284715

>>16284712
which jobs will AGI eliminate?

Anonymous No. 16284718

>>16284711
I'm so fucking ready bros

Anonymous No. 16284719

>>16284715
Ah yes, the hand coper emerges. You probably work a job a job that involves shuffling data around computer systems don't you? My condolences.

Anonymous No. 16284724

>>16284713
Thiel is crypto jew as fuck man.

Anonymous No. 16284725

>>16284702
Why are AI fags so delusional? The ability to make pretty pictures improving 100x doesn't mean your computer is about to come alive

Anonymous No. 16284727

>>16284725
Elon is an AI fag, so I guess you are the sneeding coper.

Anonymous No. 16284728

>>16284719
which jobs are future proof

Anonymous No. 16284729

>>16284728
None.

Anonymous No. 16284731

>>16284728
Trade jobs will last a while until they figure out a genuine affordable humanoid tier robot, which is probably at least 5-10 years out. Pencils pushers (forma de computer wagie) will be gone long before that. Only long prospects for making money outside of your ubi gibs, if they don't just decide to holocaust the useless eater class, is going to be provably human created art works. From paintings to pottery, whatever.

Anonymous No. 16284735

>>16284725
Yeah, your job of moving numbers around excel spreadsheets and sending emails is totally safe

LOL

LMAO

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Anonymous No. 16284737

>>16284727
And he's delusional. He mistook the an S curve for a linear at peak acceleration, which is why his FSD prediction is off by years now. I don't care about Tesla or AI, I just like the rockets

Anonymous No. 16284739

>>16284737
>muh curve

Thanks for your opinion midwit

Anonymous No. 16284742

>>16284735
Lol I own a company in a physical and decentralized industry. It's mostly mechanized, but the parts you need a human for are so complicated that I'm not expecting robots to compete in my lifetime.

Anonymous No. 16284744

>>16284742
>I own a company
>investor hype buzzword babble

Should probably be posting this on some reddit AI seethe forum honestly

Anonymous No. 16284750

>>16284744
>AI fag is a redditor

Anonymous No. 16284753

>>16284742
what can I do to protect myself from AI?

Anonymous No. 16284755

>>16284750
But that's you???

Anonymous No. 16284758

>>16284737
You mean at zero acceleration in your pic

Anonymous No. 16284769

>>16284758
I did not read the y axis
>>16284755
>I should post on reddit
>but you're the redditor
>>16284753
I don't know, a month ago I would've said don't make a career in concept art, but after buying and learning midjourney trying to make some images for a personal technical project I realized it can't actually make anything that isn't a collage of stock images. I'm lined up to purchase work from a concept artist despite all the progress in AI image generation. I mean in a world where fake email jobs exist, you aren't going to find yourself unemployed just because a computer is suddenly able to pretend to be alive

Anonymous No. 16284770

>>16284769
IF YOU DONT KNOW SOMETHING, DONT MAKE STATEMENTS. ASK QUESTIONS

Anonymous No. 16284773

>>16284770
What are the steps between right now and AGI?

Anonymous No. 16284774

>>16284737
but computing power is growing exponentially.

Anonymous No. 16284775

>>16284769
Yep, malding artcel detected. Sorry about your furry porn commissions drying up. Maybe time to get a job at walmart?

Anonymous No. 16284779

Did I piss off a bot or something?
>>16284770
By "I don't know" I meant "I don't know that you have to". You'd have put that together if you read the whole post and are a human
>>16284774
I'm not convinced that's the limiting factor
>>16284775
If you were a human and could remember anything two posts back you'd recollect that I own a company in an actual industry. I used the example because I began the personal project expecting the image generation to be as good as everyone says, but its only good on things there are 100,000 pictures of

Anonymous No. 16284781

>>16284779
>recollect that I own a company in an actual industry.
It's not that he can't recollect, it's that he doesn't believe you. Words are cheap, I'm elon musk and I say you're an idiot.

Anonymous No. 16284783

>>16284779
>I own a company in an actual industry
>posting walls of texts on 4chins malding about the artificial intelligence

Yeah, doubt

Anonymous No. 16284784

>>16284781
>>16284783
Most of my customers are small businesses so I can confidently say the competence threshold for self employment is extraordinarily low. I only have three employees, I'm not pretending to be a millionaire here. But yeah given my experience and the volumes of money I see moved around where AI has absolutely nothing to add, I'm just not convinced. You've also been seething instead of convincing me so I'm probably right

Anonymous No. 16284785

>>16284784
No one cares about your fake and gay larp

Anonymous No. 16284786

>>16284785
Kek whatever. This interaction has me completely convinced that AI fags are just losers hoping that people with real jobs will be brought down to their level

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Anonymous No. 16284787

>>16284786

Anonymous No. 16284788

>>16284786
So true oomfie

Anonymous No. 16284790

>>16284711
Why is he fat, though? Pence looked much better.

Anonymous No. 16284791

>>16284788
stop making me look up zoomer words

Anonymous No. 16284794

>>16284784
I'm an electrical engineer, and I can also say that there are a lot of stuff where automation won't replace all the human elements (for a long time), simply because a lot of stuff requires certified personnel to give the go ahead and thus be liable if something goes wrong (instead of the company). Especially here in the EU where there are a ton of regulations that require human oversight in some capacity.

Anonymous No. 16284795

>>16284794
Robots have been building vehicles for decades now. You are coping.

Anonymous No. 16284796

>>16284794
>humans will be employed forever because regulations
lol thats damning with faint praise.

Anonymous No. 16284797

>>16284786
>This interaction has me completely convinced that AI fags are just losers hoping that people with real jobs will be brought down to their level
hits home

Anonymous No. 16284798

>>16284794
>simply because a lot of stuff requires certified personnel to give the go ahead and thus be liable if something goes wrong
They willl certify robots and the company will be liable if something goes wrong.

Anonymous No. 16284802

>>16284795
Yeah, our factories are filled with them. But they are also filled with technicians and engineers etc. to maintain, oversee and carry on other tasks.

>>16284796
Yeah, I wasn't exactly praising either side, EU bureaucracy can be hell.

>>16284798
>and the company will be liable if something goes wrong.
And this is exactly what they (the companies) don't want. Instead of just firing an incompetent person who took the blame, you will be directly responsible for all damages and compensation.

Anonymous No. 16284804

>>16284794
>there are a ton of regulations that require human oversight in some capacity.
>robotics start replacing human labour with some human oversight for legal purposes
>increase robotic labour until it's basically a human rubber stamping skynet production

See;history of the industrial revolution until modern day

Anonymous No. 16284807

>>16284804
Quite possible, but that might fail due to humans eventually being too dumb/unknowledgeable to maintain everything they have, like in idiocracy(/some former african colonies where everything technical simply rusted away).

Anonymous No. 16284808

>>16284802
>But they are also filled with technicians and engineers etc. to maintain, oversee and carry on other tasks.

I wonder how the overseer rate has reduced over the years and will continue to do so.

Anonymous No. 16284810

>>16284807
If the anti AI argument is idiocracy then cool I understand that. But if we aren't going the idiocracy route then there are going to be less and less humans employed for all kinds of work year by year.

Anonymous No. 16284812

https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1813533851651891284

China clone of Superheavy booster catch

Anonymous No. 16284816

How come I was born at just the right time to witness the coming of AGI? What are the probabilities?

Anonymous No. 16284817

>>16284812
Their shameless IP disregarding is dope, just need them to be able to transfer that to actual hardware. They've been getting better at it and now they are up to good quality cars. Rocket engines a different story but I guess we will see, they do have quite a few smart bugmen.

Anonymous No. 16284818

>>16284812
Has cosmo leap made a rocket yet? Are they just trying to go straight for a starship clone?

Anonymous No. 16284819

>>16284794
Thanks for the reply. I can't imagine an AI/robot that can work on the electrical at my shop. The previous owner was an unqualified redneck an now I have one leg burned out and another peaking every 30s but I can't imagine a robot assessing and repairing it. Also, I just don't see it laying conduit and pulling wires through.
>>16284804
Machines are good at repetitive tasks and numbers. Humans are good at assessing the real world and making decisions. Machines need a lot of work before they're competitive in that regard.

Anonymous No. 16284820

>>16284817
Musk doesn't patent any of his stuff so the chinese are completely in their right to copy him. It's what he wants after all (maybe not the chinese specifically)

Anonymous No. 16284822

>>16284742
Kek you're either a lying retard or such a small operation as to be artisanal if you can't immediately think of at least three areas in your business that could massively benefit from AI.

Anonymous No. 16284823

>>16284820
as if China is able to build a function rocket. They couldn't make make ball point pens until 2017.

Anonymous No. 16284825

>>16284812
Spacerace 2 enjoyers keep winning

Anonymous No. 16284826

>>16284823
I think you'll find china builds many functional rockets and has done so for decades if you care to look.

Anonymous No. 16284828

>>16284812
What happened to the chinese company trying to catch rockets with a net? I know it sounds kinda dumb but the mockups actually made it look like a sensible alternative to the chopsticks.

Anonymous No. 16284829

>>16284817
Not an IP.

Anonymous No. 16284830

>>16284822
Kek yeah there's a custom aspect. There's really no point in the line from customer acquisition to delivery where I need a computer to think though. I have to assume that's most of American industry

Anonymous No. 16284832

>>16284828
You know what's a sensible alternative to chopsticks? Two tower with adjustable cables running between them. Then the cables just catch the rocket.

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Anonymous No. 16284835

>>16284812

Anonymous No. 16284836

>>16284823
>They couldn't make make ball point pens until 2017

Glownigger talking point. There are few enough countries who can manufacture true ball point pens, not just assembling imported parts, that they an be counted on one hand. And yes, China does actually have quite a few all domestic rockets that they launch regularly. Go back to /pol/k/ whatever shithole you came from

Anonymous No. 16284841

>>16284830
I assume you're paying for accounting? Those are getting some pretty high quality AI services that are invisible to the customer. I only found out the firm I use is one of them when the subject came up and they're pretty small.

Anonymous No. 16284843

>>16284832
i could see chopsticks being used to widen the gap between the cables and then narrow them again to catch, but would cable be more likely to start flopping around from exhaust, or drag along the rocket as it descends and they narrow?

it will be interesting to see how the chopsticks work out.

Anonymous No. 16284845

>>16284832
That's basically what this chinese net was, it was 2 pairs of 2 wires perpendicular to each other.

Anonymous No. 16284848

>>16284823
>They couldn't make make ball point pens until 2017.

A list of countries that can make ball point pen heads

>Switzerland
>Japan
>China

Anonymous No. 16284849

>>16284812
i saw a video about chinese stealing the other day and they basically boiled it down to being so competitive in china that if you dont steal then you dont eat. so you either be a fucking rat and survive or you try and be innovative and you get your organs harvested.

Anonymous No. 16284852

>>16284845
cool. Do you have a link?

Anonymous No. 16284853

>>16284849
Why bother innovating when westoids put in the work and let your guys in to copy it through race based employment policies?

Serious question

Anonymous No. 16284858

>>16284853
because innovation will win the war between china and the west. it'll be ww2 japan vs america all over again with xi shitting his guts out as he's strung up to hang in the hot sun.

Anonymous No. 16284861

>>16284858
Why would they go to war?

Anonymous No. 16284863

>>16284861
the beef gots to get cooked some day

Anonymous No. 16284868

>>16284858
>innovation will win the war between china and the West

Lol lmao China wins the war by doing nothing while America brings in unlimited low iq immigrants and is destroyed through Jewish social policies. America has tik tok showing questionable aged girls twerking and black queens lambasting whitoids, meanwhile Chinese tik tok is full of educational videos. Collapse of an empire stuff.

Anonymous No. 16284871

>>16284868
>America has tik tok showing questionable aged girls twerking and black queens lambasting whitoids, meanwhile Chinese tik tok is full of educational videos.
got an actual source for this or just unfounded anecdotal speculation?

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Anonymous No. 16284872

>>16284672
I keep reading "The Boring Company" as "The Boeing Company".

Anonymous No. 16284874

>>16284872
either company does nothing

Anonymous No. 16284878

>>16284871
The first ones obvious if you've ever been to tiktok. The second however isn't true, chinese tiktok is hard to describe. Theres occasionally threads on /wsg/ if you wanna go looking but I wouldn't call chinese tiktok educational.

Anonymous No. 16284879

>>16284871
I like how that's what you latched onto and not the tens of millions of imported squatemalans and destructive Jewish social policies

Anonymous No. 16284881

>>16284874
Boring company actually been doing a lot of good stuff. You just don't hear about it here because it's not tesla/xeeter drama or exploding spaceships.

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Anonymous No. 16284882

>>16284879
okay but hypothetically if America is destroyed by China as you say how does that benefit the Jews?

Anonymous No. 16284883

>>16284774
yeah, but coding isn't exponentially better
Pajeet and Anastasia (formerly known as Bill) are wasting all computing the power on basic tasks with poor practices

Anonymous No. 16284884

>>16284881
its still very much in its basic dev stage as a company going through iterations of the hardware
might be a number of years before they land on a design for the boring machine (and operations in general) that is good enough to start scaling

Anonymous No. 16284885

Plant the texas flag on the Moon it would be so kino

Anonymous No. 16284886

>>16284790
Pence was big on space, but Vance is big on technology/innovation generally. Pence pussied out and betrayed Trump when the going got tough, he had his chance and blew it

Anonymous No. 16284887

>>16284882
They have been bleeding America dry but in their orgy high of money printing and nepotism have failed to secure their new host like they usually do. They should have been breeding chink mischlings with party members decades ago but were too high on printed USD.

Anonymous No. 16284889

>>16284711
dude looks dodgy af but this is a good sign for spaceflight

Anonymous No. 16284890

>>16284884
the probably figured it's not as easy in boring as it is in rocketry. Unlike rockets the highly competitive tunneling market(which is dominated by Germans) has converged on the optimum boring machine design.

Anonymous No. 16284891

>>16284889
>politician says space thing
>OMG BASEDBASEDBASED

how new

Anonymous No. 16284892

>>16284812
Strong Chinese technology really is decades ahead of American pig-nology

Anonymous No. 16284893

>>16284887
Who was their previous host? Britain?

Anonymous No. 16284897

>>16284890
The fact that most boring machines are still using diesel shit with miles of extractor fan machinery indicates that the free market has barely even bothered innovating. Much like the pre SpaceX launch industry, the tunnelling industry is comprised of gorillion dollar state sponsored projects with politicians choosing their "preferred contractors" (see; who bribes the best)

Anonymous No. 16284898

>>16284841
That was my thought, but anything like that will be handled by Intuit and I won't notice a thing. Legal language is basically a programming language so it doesn't surprise me

Anonymous No. 16284901

>>16284891
Not only is it based, but redpilled too

Anonymous No. 16284902

>>16284890
I don't know about that, they are starting to iterate rapidly now
they are doing a bunch of "obvious" things like continuous mining, starting from the surface (porpoising) to eliminate the need to dig a ditch and lower the machine there when starting and ending and zero people in tunnel (ZPIT)

Anonymous No. 16284903

>>16284897
There's no way you can get the torque required for drilling without the shittiest diesel imaginable

Anonymous No. 16284904

>>16284903
Electric motors are the king of torque. What the fuck are you on about.

Anonymous No. 16284905

>>16284903
not sure what you mean by this but you can use any kind of engine and with the right gear reduction any kind of torque can be reached. Also I will use this opportunity to call out faggots that think car torque matter in comparison to horsepower.

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Anonymous No. 16284910

https://x.com/KennethCassel/status/1813338806784860552

Anonymous No. 16284912

>>16284910
C*lifornia is so shit it's unreal. Should just drop a couple hundred fusion weapons on the place and start over.

Anonymous No. 16284915

>>16284910
Whats the purpose of the thing on the left?

Anonymous No. 16284916

>>16284912
haters gonna hate.

Anonymous No. 16284917

>>16284915
To enrich the local politicians favourite contractor and get kickbacks from them

Anonymous No. 16284919

>>16284917
I mean yeah but whats the thinly veiled excuse to do that?

Anonymous No. 16284920

>>16284916
Don't you have some human waste and needles to be stepping in subhuman?

Anonymous No. 16284922

>>16284920
I live in a gated neighborhood

Anonymous No. 16284924

>>16284922
Nice, South Africa tier

Anonymous No. 16284926

>>16284919
people complained about a lack of shelter from the elements at some bus stops in los angeles so the city council added those things and called it a day. its supposed to protect you from sunlight.

Anonymous No. 16284928

>>16284926
Can't make this shit up KEK

Anonymous No. 16284929

>>16284926
looks kinda comfy though
https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/i4DbChE__3Pg/v1/1200x900.jpg

Anonymous No. 16284930

>>16284926
and didn't it cost like 500k? lmao

Anonymous No. 16284932

>>16284926
I think there was also some bureucratic problem why they couldn't install normal benches or a bus shelter

Anonymous No. 16284934

>>16284884
While its in "dev stage" its not basic. They've already created their factory for mass production. They're already doing contractual obligations and building tunnels. There's a 40+ mile extension on Vegas loop they're tunneling atm.. They got Tesla tunnel down at Tesla factory in Austin.

Anonymous No. 16284935

>>16284932
Prob cause drug addict hobo rapists would set up camp there

Anonymous No. 16284937

>>16284689
i was talking about the FAA docs where spacex said they'd be done with the 2nd tower stacking by August 15

Anonymous No. 16284939

>>16284904
and how do you get that much power way down, deep beneath the earth?

Anonymous No. 16284940

>>16284684
He is explicitly fleeing the streetpoop, crime, and kidtrooning government of California. It's not just tax sniping.

Anonymous No. 16284942

>>16284922
>California fags being proud of living in a mini prison protected from their shithole states inhabitants

Can't make this stuff up

Anonymous No. 16284944

>>16284929
Looks retarded.

Anonymous No. 16284945

fag

Anonymous No. 16284948

>>16284939
Well you see there are these things called batteries, you send in empty carts to collect the spoils and it turns out you can put batteries on them instead of being empty! Crazy idea I know!

Anonymous No. 16284950

>>16284939
You run a diesel generator

Anonymous No. 16284951

>>16284904
Off-idle peak torque sure. Under sustained load not so much.

Anonymous No. 16284952

>>16284934
basic is perhaps the wrong word, but I think this is basically still perhaps early F9 stage if even that
i.e. not reusable, not scaled, launching like once a year or something

Anonymous No. 16284953

>>16284948
lol batteries for that application ok.

>>16284950
indeed

Anonymous No. 16284956

>>16284953
>lol batteries for that application ok

Take it up with the boring company then master engineer if you think you know better

Anonymous No. 16284958

>>16284948
They just run cables from the grid to the boring machine. Since the machine moves so slowly it's not a problem.

Anonymous No. 16284959

>>16284958
>just plug it in like in my video games

Anonymous No. 16284963

>>16284959
Fuck off retard

Anonymous No. 16284968

>>16284956
so do they haul the giant 5MW battery pack to the surface two times a day to charge it or do they run a cable down to the boring machine to charge it.

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Anonymous No. 16284970

everyone seems very mad today

Anonymous No. 16284975

>>16284735
My first reaction was also to imagine that sufficiently capable AI would make humans obsolete, but it would have been natural to apply the same argument to human labor during the Industrial Revolution. What actually happened was that the productive output of any given person increased dramatically along with both the demand for labor and the standard of living in industrialized nations (eventually).

On the other hand, the use of internal combustion engines took horses from being useful and ubiquitous tools (literally workhorses) to being pets for a few people with too much money.

I don't see how you could determine at this time which analogy is correct.

Anonymous No. 16284978

reminder that cars have the same power as about 80 actual horses. This is how obsolete horses are.

Anonymous No. 16284979

>>16284970
I wonder where the kistler guys are now? I would like to hear the full kistler story as they are an important part of rocket history.

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Anonymous No. 16284980

Hullo is seething about the move from California

Anonymous No. 16284981

>>16284672
this is going to cause housing prices in brownsville and s. padre to skyrocket. so much south padre being a hidden gem. the good news is they'll price the mexicans out and push them further inland

Anonymous No. 16284983

>>16284975
if AI actually makes human labor totally obsolete in the near term then that means returns to capital are gonna go exponential at the same time, and a few thousand bucks' of well-placed capital investment is gonna mean you can live like a king

Anonymous No. 16284988

>>16284980
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condorcet_paradox

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Anonymous No. 16284991

>>16284983
where do I place my capital?

Anonymous No. 16284992

>>16284794
>here in the EU
You will be safe from technological change and economic growth in the EU because you'll stay centuries behind the rest of the world. If anything, we should expect the state of affairs to regress in Europe for the obvious reasons.

Anonymous No. 16284993

>>16284980
It's a telling sign of autists with no life experience that they think electoral mechanics are the sole reason for government inefficiency

Anonymous No. 16284995

>>16284993
It's mostly a "both sides are le bad" cope to avoid making an unpopular decision in public.

Anonymous No. 16284997

>>16284991
i'm not some /biz/ whiz with some complicated scheme, index funds and real estate are undefeated in the long run

Anonymous No. 16284998

>>16284980
He was always seething about Musk when he purchased twitter and claimed Musk would destroy it in 2 weeks or so. Its just a kneejerk tribal response. Rather than an actual fully thought out response that you see from his longer videos. I dont fault him for it personally cause tribalism is a natural reaction for most people. Particularly it is for those that dont understand what they're saying

Anonymous No. 16284999

>>16284882
How does HIV benefit from killing faggots? It doesn't. That's just an unintended consequence.

Anonymous No. 16285000

>>16284939
High voltage cables.
If we can run them through a hundred miles of desert we can run them through three miles of tunnel.

Anonymous No. 16285006

>>16284993
It's certainly a contributing factor.

Anonymous No. 16285009

>>16284956
id really like to see some specifics of how its supposed to function, thats all i saying.

Anonymous No. 16285010

>>16284975
>What actually happened was that the productive output of any given person increased dramatically along with both the demand for labor and the standard of living in industrialized nations

Except if you look at the rise of the information age and computing, the productivity of workers skyrocketed while wages stagnated and the rich pocketed the benefits

Anonymous No. 16285013

>>16285000
sure, cables are doable if you can start the dig close to a suitable connecting point. there are safety concerns about having large high voltage cables in a tunnel that will have activity happening in it all the time, but its the battery power thing im not seeing at the moment, and cant find any info on.

Anonymous No. 16285014

>>16284675
It's Psyche all over again

If MSR wasn't dead before the budget drain this will have is going to smother it

Anonymous No. 16285015

>>16284993
korrect

Anonymous No. 16285016

>>16285006
there's no reason to think so. the will of the people is ill-defined (the liberal paradox) and even if it were there's no basis for believing that adhering to it more closely would result in better outcomes (arrow's impossibility theorem). it's just a grass-is-greener thing for guys like hullo who fantasize that any third party in american politics would be one they agree with. it's at least as likely that any third parties which became viable would be even more retarded than the current ones.

Anonymous No. 16285017

>>16284997
yeah but real estate won't grow with AI. Shouldn't I be investing in Google and similar.

Anonymous No. 16285019

>>16284963
>Oh you need electricity? I know where that comes from! Wires!

Anonymous No. 16285022

>>16285017
>real estate won't grow with AI
you sure about that? what if you can suddenly make 50-story fully-automated fusion-powered factories in the middle of the desert? (and yes, that's pie-in-the-sky, but not as pie-in-the-sky as assuming AI's made all human labor totally obsolete).

Anonymous No. 16285023

>>16285016
I don't care about 3rd parties but you have to admit that situations where the guy who got less votes wins is retarded.

Anonymous No. 16285025

>>16285019
It’s true, if you plug a long enough strand of copper into your machine the magic torque juice will come out and you will dig. The lab boys tell me it has something to do with what’s on the other end of that copper strand but I’ve never looked into it.

Anonymous No. 16285027

>>16285019

Yeah you can get this thing called electricity transmitted through wires, crazy stuff.

Anonymous No. 16285028

>>16285019
The tunnels need electricity to light up. They're simultaneously powering the tunnel and the boring machine.

Anonymous No. 16285029

>>16284700
>free speech fundamentalism
but only when it's not against them lmao

Anonymous No. 16285030

imagine wanting to power a TBM with batteries. You know you're gonna need wires for batteries too?

Anonymous No. 16285032

>>16285030
Oh man where are we going to get all these wires and electrons it's over bros

Anonymous No. 16285042

>>16285019
Zoomers are so ironypilled lol

Anonymous No. 16285043

>>16285030
Learned helplessness is a disease.

Anonymous No. 16285045

>>16285043
>ad hominem

Anonymous No. 16285047

https://spacenews.com/gop-platform-lays-out-aggressive-space-agenda-to-counter-china/

Space policy. In orbit manufacturing, moon, mars.

Anonymous No. 16285050

>>16285045
It is what it is. Companies like SpaceX hire only those with high agency. "Oh I there's a road kill on the road. We cant do anything!!!!" "Oh Boca Chica is bad because there's no infrastructure! There's no power or water or electricity!!! ITS IMPOSSIBLE" You get fired on the spot.

Anonymous No. 16285051

>>16285047
Uninformed retard here

Is this one of those things that politicians have been promising every election cycle? Or is this new for 2024?

Anonymous No. 16285053

>>16285047
>Disruptive new startups like SpaceX, Rocket Lab and Blue Origin are making these incumbents work harder

Lol lmao even

>>16285051
Yes it's basically the same old shit

Anonymous No. 16285055

>>16285051
Space isn't a high priority for Biden admin. The last Trump admin was the one that created the Artemis program. Prior to that, Obama created the Commercial Cargo/Crew program. Bush had no real plan either.

Space as an ambition isn't really a thing for the past presidency.

Anonymous No. 16285056

>>16285051
the stuff about manufacturing and commercial space is unique to the gop platform (and new, since the gop didn't put out a platform in 2020). moon/mars will be in the dem platform too.

Anonymous No. 16285059

>>16284774
>computing power is growing exponentially
BS, it declining now. they have to keep making computers use more and more power and more specialized hardware because the gains in computing power aren't getting any better.

Anonymous No. 16285063

>>16285059
>because the gains in computing power aren't getting any better.

Bro doesn't know about GAAFET or BSPD shut the fuck up moron

Anonymous No. 16285064

>>16285047
Expanding Freedom, Prosperity and Safety in Space
>Under Republican Leadership, the United States will create a robust Manufacturing Industry in Near Earth Orbit, send American Astronauts back to the Moon, and onward to Mars, and enhance partnerships with the rapidly expanding Commercial Space sector to revolutionize our ability to access, live in, and develop assets in Space.
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2024-republican-party-platform

a good sign but overall nothing significant. i think at this point the minimum is continuing what biden has been doing, which has been good for the industry, elon/spacex attacks aside. trump will probably take it up a few notches though by trying to push the industry into bigger and bolder things like he did in his first term.

Anonymous No. 16285065

>>16285064
https://x.com/Andercot/status/1787732013568647505

Anonymous No. 16285066

>>16285065
Isn't he the superconductor superschizo

Anonymous No. 16285067

When the dust has settled and 2 stage fully reusable SHLVs (starship clones, if you will) are industry standard, what will launch costs per pound end up at?

Anonymous No. 16285068

>>16285065
oh hey it's the lk-99 cheerleader guy from last year

Anonymous No. 16285072

>>16285067
$420.69

Anonymous No. 16285073

>>16285064
if trump wins and spacex continues to make progress towards mars, i could totally see trump try to make his mark and push for an official nasa base on mars. you know, something along the lines of bush jr pushing for a return to the moon, or obama's push for a nasa visit to an asteroid, both of which resulted in the artemis program.

Anonymous No. 16285074

>>16285067
This >>16285072

It will be in few hundreds dollars down from couple thousands per kg with F9/FH right now. Thats just "industry" pricing. For SpaceX internal, the pricing may even be lower

Anonymous No. 16285075

>>16285067
>100T payload per launch
>$million per launch
$10 per kg

Anonymous No. 16285076

>>16285067
anything under $100/kg is going to be borderline impossible with chemical rockets. i'll allow myself to fantasize about $250.

Anonymous No. 16285077

>>16285073
bases on both the moon and mars, though the mars base won't really be started before trumps second term ends
but JD Vance might run for president after Trump and continue the program

Anonymous No. 16285082

>>16285076
>anything under $100/kg is going to be borderline impossible with chemical rockets

Why not? Methalox might as well be free, it's just a matter of how low you can drive refurbishment and operational costs

Anonymous No. 16285083

>>16285064
The biggest thing Trump could do is put a guy in FAA and FCC that would remove lot of the regulations and streamline regulatory approval. Speed up the investigations. Speed up approval process. Put in an agenda friendly guy that will approve all the Mars/Space related projects promptly.

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Anonymous No. 16285088

>>16285077
yeah it definitely wont be but i wouldnt be surprised if trump tries to push this as part of his legacy. the history section of future mars colonization news articles, books, wikis, etc. would then be including trump in them.

Anonymous No. 16285095

>>16285088
Most of it will take place under Vance but I guess Artemis might take place before 2028

Anonymous No. 16285097

>>16285064
Mars got as many words as Israel in the GOP platform. I'm not sure how many anons realize what a crazy change that is.

Anonymous No. 16285099

>>16285097
Big if true

Anonymous No. 16285101

>>16285099
its a single mention for each of them

Anonymous No. 16285102

>>16284731
>until they figure out a genuine affordable humanoid tier robot,
The real issue is dense power storage.

Anonymous No. 16285105

>>16285097
Israel funding is locked in as a bipartisan kike dicksuck, they don't need to even talk about it beyond saying they are the greatest ally and it's better for them not to talk about it given the Jews latest bloodthirsty rampage that pissed everyone off.

Anonymous No. 16285107

>>16285102
Anon didn't you hear? You can just use wires!

Anonymous No. 16285109

>>16285107
Big if true

Anonymous No. 16285112

>>16285102
micro fusion reactors and biphase-carbide when?

Anonymous No. 16285113

>>16285107
that's insane

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Anonymous No. 16285115

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1813584231920185527

clip about trump talking about double F9 landings I would guess

Anonymous No. 16285117

>>16285082
propellant is about 1% of the cost of reusing a f9 core and 17% of the cost of running a cargo airline. starship is gonna come in somewhere between those two numbers - the higher the better. if we take that f9 is currently costing spacex about $1500/kg for starlink launches and then divide it by 17 then that gets you to around $90 as your lower bound of plausibility. maybe my numbers suck, but i'm not pulling them out of thin air.

Anonymous No. 16285120

>>16285102
>>16285107
i'm planning to keep mine chained up in a sex dungeon anyway so no problem here

Anonymous No. 16285124

>>16285120
i assume the chains and dungeon id just for your kink since a robot is clearly fully controllable anyway and will not attempt escape.

Anonymous No. 16285126

>>16285117
>propellant is about 1% of the cost of reusing a f9 core

Source not fucking found because we have no idea of the true internal cost of Falcon 9. Regardless, the 170t or whatever of rp-1 that it takes to fuel a Falcon is expensive as hell compared to methane which is more or less free.

Anonymous No. 16285128

>>16285126
security, farters

Anonymous No. 16285129

>>16285117
I don't think your math is right. Rather than using a straight division of current launch costs you should instead take the known fuel costs, I believe musk said falcon 9 is about half a mil, then use a range of plausible fuel costs as a percentage of total cost.
Lets round the airline number to 20% cause I hate math and use 10% as a midway between current prices. That gives us and range of 2.5 to 5 million dollars per launch. That gets me a lunch cost of between 50$ and 25$.

Anonymous No. 16285134

>>16285115
He mentions a droneship landing in the ocean.

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Anonymous No. 16285135

>>16285097
Citation? I'm genuinely excited if true.

Anonymous No. 16285136

>>16285135
you can check it yourself https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2024-republican-party-platform

Anonymous No. 16285138

>>16285135
Ch.10 S.3

Anonymous No. 16285141

>>16285136
Ch.3 S.5

Anonymous No. 16285142

>>16285138
>>16285136
>Under Republican Leadership, the United States will create a robust Manufacturing Industry in Near Earth Orbit, send American Astronauts back to the Moon, and onward to Mars, and enhance partnerships with the rapidly expanding Commercial Space sector to revolutionize our ability to access, live in, and develop assets in Space.
A bit less than I was expecting, but still good news nonetheless. Thanks for citing, anons don't always do that these days.

Anonymous No. 16285148

>>16285129
A 50 dollar lunch better be damn good

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>>16285148

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Anonymous No. 16285158

>>16285148
brb committing sudoku

Anonymous No. 16285164

>>16285142
It's a boilerplate nothingburger. Best we can hope is they keep Artemis going and Elons bribes cut some of the red tape kikery

Anonymous No. 16285182

>>16285142
I say we go to the moon....we go to the moon, and the other thing, not because it is easy, but because it is hahd.

Anonymous No. 16285184

Here's my proposal to cool LA down.
>build 100 kilometer long tunnel from LA to top of Sierra Mountains
>use large blower to suck air from cold Sierra mountains into Los Angeles.
Thoughts?

Anonymous No. 16285186

>>16285184
It takes 20 years to approve a regulatory paperwork. Nothing can be built. Boring Company moved out of California because they wouldn't budge on regulation and all the projects were stuck in limbo, just like with other far left cities.

Anonymous No. 16285187

>>16285184
Cool it down? I hope LA experiences runaway venusian greenhouse climate

Anonymous No. 16285189

>>16285184
Honestly just fix the river. Maybe make the roofs and such white.

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Anonymous No. 16285192

>>16285189
they're already white except for the solar panels of course.

Anonymous No. 16285194

>>16285184
Here's my proposal to cool LA down
>Drop several fusion warheads on it
>one after the other to form a nice, deep crater
>let it fill up with water to form a comfy lake
>plant some forest around the edges for shade
>release fish and birds around the lake

Would be really nice

Anonymous No. 16285199

>>16285184
i think that sounds very reasonable

Anonymous No. 16285200

>>16285192
if i ever had a job there i'm pretty sure it'd be running across the street to lowe's whenever someone needed an emergency bracket

Anonymous No. 16285201

>>16285010
Wages stagnated because their gains in productivity came not from worker skill, but from capital investment (in technology).
If you actually want to address that, minimum wages and cutting migration are the only way forward.
Or just go full Denmark (flexicurity), which you won't.
Also, the tech industry, which has carried the U.S. economy in the last two decades, has the best overall salaries and benefits in the entire world. They just not hire (or need) that many people.
Hating on tools and machines won't get you anywhere.

Anonymous No. 16285202

>>16285194
just so long as the entire surface of the crater lake can be covered with those floating black balls to keep evaporation down.

Anonymous No. 16285212

>>16285194
i support this, seems effective

Anonymous No. 16285215

>>16285192
they wanted to expand there some years ago (I think something like 2018 perhaps) but the mayor gave the space to low income housing or something retarded like that

Anonymous No. 16285217

>>16284672
All this talk about musk moving everything to texas makes me think about one of the lore parts of the expanse was that a lot of texans moved to mars and thats why texan culture was so big on mars.

Anonymous No. 16285220

>>16285194
>nuke commieforna
>trigger the fault line
>entire state slides into the ocean
>creates super tsunami and wipes out most of pacfic coastal nations.
Fund it.

Anonymous No. 16285222

I guarantee you most the anti california posts are the same anon. He's also the same anon that thinks TBMs should be battery powered.

Anonymous No. 16285225

>>16285217
Those who want freedom will seek refuge on Mars. Its the ultimate freedom where hardship awaits but also a place to build a future they want in their image

Anonymous No. 16285232

>>16285184
>>16285194
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CehYA3omb5o

Anonymous No. 16285235

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/07/elon-musk-says-spacex-and-x-will-relocate-their-headquarters-to-texas/?comments=1&comments-page=1

lots of seething in the comments lmao

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Anonymous No. 16285236

>>16285225
>freedom and hardship
It's going to be funny when the "Mars is like the wild west" guys get there and find that 99% of the pressurized square footage is factory

Anonymous No. 16285237

>>16285235
Love these leftist salt mines.

Anonymous No. 16285239

>>16285235
Why do people hate texas so much?
Or are they just defensive about california?

Anonymous No. 16285240

>>16285236
Time to build more. There's an infinite land building project at play

Anonymous No. 16285241

>>16285235
The crazy thing is how long these guys have hated and attacked him before he got here. I mean Musk was moderate, despite all odds. He's from a country which was destroyed by communist african immigrants backed by international bankers, which is so on the nose it sounds like a punch line, but he was by all measures moderate. They made him into what they wanted him to be. I hope they regret it.

Anonymous No. 16285243

>>16285236
at some point people will be able to build their own outposts no doubt, might be quite a while though

Anonymous No. 16285244

>>16285236
As long as I get my martian child bride and anti earther missiles, I’ll gladly work 16 hour shifts in the marsmines

Anonymous No. 16285245

>>16285235
>>16285239
Leftoid tranny audience.

Remember how the laws even came to be.

1) schools need to inform parents if they notice the child is going through suffering
2) schools teach children about gender ideology
3) schools expose kids to question their sexuality and gender identity
4) kids start to question their gender
5) kids gets put into gender transition at school
6) kids are castrated by the state
7) parents arent informed of anything

Anonymous No. 16285247

>>16285239
I think they see it as a repudiation of their causes, beliefs, and ideals, so it's personally offensive that someone is willing to put their money where their mouth is in order to say "no more."

Anonymous No. 16285248

>>16285247
>I think they see it as a repudiation of their causes, beliefs, and ideals
Good, everything they think is wrong and they should be repudiated.

Anonymous No. 16285251

>>16285240
Sorry we can't spare the materials, the ball bearing factory is almost up and running and they're eating all our steel manufacturing capacity
>>16285243
Why?
>>16285244
>you mean fourteen in Mars years right? haha
>right?

Anonymous No. 16285252

>>16285251
>Sorry we can't spare the materials, the ball bearing factory is almost up and running and they're eating all our steel manufacturing capacity
Time to build more

Anonymous No. 16285255

Why is this general in this board? This is engineering/transport stuff, not science or math, and you faggots keep talking about your idols, politics and completely unrelated bs

There is a general elsewhere you could all go visit and maybe stay: >>>/n/2001551

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Anonymous No. 16285258

>>16285248
You'll get no argument from me.

Anonymous No. 16285259

>>16285255
Nigger

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Anonymous No. 16285263

>>16285255
Blow it out your ass.

Anonymous No. 16285268

>>16285252
Sorry, we don't have any electricity to spare and the capacity of the micro nuclear being delivered next window is already reserved

Anonymous No. 16285269

>>16285268
Build more. Dont be helpless

Anonymous No. 16285270

>>16285255
engineering is pretty closely related to science and math

Anonymous No. 16285272

>>16285269
That's the spirit! Now get back into the wage pod

Anonymous No. 16285274

>>16285272
The spirit of building comes from the drive to create their own future and put their will into action.

For people without any will, for people who dont have a dream, for people who cant think on their own, they are forever trapped in a wage slavery as they have no agency.

Anonymous No. 16285277

>>16285270
>pretty closely related to science and math
But not the same.
Also: buses, trains, ships are products of engineering. So what? Do they belong /sci/? No.

Anonymous No. 16285279

>>16285277
Get lost, fag

Anonymous No. 16285280

>>16285272
You have the spirit of a blue origin employee and as such will never go to mars. You wouldn’t get it. don’t try to.

Anonymous No. 16285281

>>16285245
but what about gay priest Ted Haggard

Anonymous No. 16285282

>>16285235
Wouldn't "Right Wing Billionaire spins financial decision as political to influence fanbois" be a better title?

Anonymous No. 16285290

>>16285282
Stephen Clark is the writer so he tries to take a neutral view. However neutral articles in a biased site leads to biased reading/comments.

Anonymous No. 16285291

>faggots in the space faggots general get mad for being told they don't belong in this board

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Anonymous No. 16285292

Dragoooooon

Anonymous No. 16285293

>>16285235
Elon's trans child living 100% rent free in his head. What a snowflake.

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Anonymous No. 16285295

>>16285292

Anonymous No. 16285296

>>16285295
SpaceX is all in on thruster clusters

Anonymous No. 16285297

>>16285293
children should live rent free in their parents heads

Anonymous No. 16285298

What could they use XL dragon for? There's no way it's going to be used only for a single thing

Anonymous No. 16285299

>>16285297
DAS ABUSE!!! THE STATE SHOULD OWN THE CHILDREN

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Anonymous No. 16285300

>>16285235
>state the truth
>post vandalized, banned for a week

Anonymous No. 16285301

>>16285298
obv its all tied with Gateway logistics, makes sense

Anonymous No. 16285302

>>16285235
Musk and his supporters are so incredibly emotionally fragile and dishonest, so fundamentally un-self-aware and unable to cope with the concept of accepting consequences. Let Space X move to Texas and let it deal with the local power grid and other consequences of starving public infrastructure and enshittifying schools. Like Musk himself, Space X is decidedly not a net benefit to either humanity or the world in general. Delusion, thy name is Space Bro.

Anonymous No. 16285305

>>16285302
How did you find this thread? Reddit?

Anonymous No. 16285306

The state of NASA's mic quality

Anonymous No. 16285307

>>16285235
Building and operating rockets is very tricky -- it's much too dangerous to build or operate them someplace where people might use the wrong pronouns.

Anonymous No. 16285310

>>16285295
15+ engines from this side
From another 10+ on other side
And then few more inside.

30+ engines?

Anonymous No. 16285311

>>16285292
why does it need the big solar panels?

Anonymous No. 16285312

>>16285305
It's about time we decide on a hard limit for how big companies can be and how rich people can get. The shittiest people get to the top, and in doing so earn the power to make things even easier for them (and worse for everyone else).

Enshittification is going way beyond software and services.

Anonymous No. 16285313

>>16285311
4x the power

Anonymous No. 16285317

>>16285292
Where is this render from?

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Anonymous No. 16285318

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pyQ_vIGkos
NASA's ISS Deorbit vehicle selection briefing is live

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Anonymous No. 16285321

>>16285317
SpaceX's account on twitter

Anonymous No. 16285323

>>16285319
heh

Musk is such a diva though fr

Anonymous No. 16285324

>>16285319
>right to workplace accidents
Based OSHA denier

Anonymous No. 16285325

>>16285319
Who's conksat?
Satellite maker?

Anonymous No. 16285327

>>16285323
Shut up you cuck zoomer. Say fr one more time

Anonymous No. 16285328

>>16285327
fr fr

Anonymous No. 16285330

>>16285274
Yeah that sounds like a realistic plan

Anonymous No. 16285331

ISS will be empty 6 months before reentry

Anonymous No. 16285334

>>16285292
What engines are those?

Anonymous No. 16285335

>>16285334
mini-raptors

Anonymous No. 16285336

>>16285295
looks like one of my service modules in rp1 when i just slap on 20 of the undersized generic thrusters because i want to cheese the 0% failure rate

Anonymous No. 16285337

>>16285325
parody account on linkedin (godtier shitposting venue)

Anonymous No. 16285339

https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1813635422339166600

Live coverage

Anonymous No. 16285340

>>16285318
>SpaceX will develop and manufacture the vehicle
>NASA will take responsibility to seek a launch vehicle
They're gonna stick it on SLS aren't they

Anonymous No. 16285344

They should set up some starlinks and cameras for a break-up livestream

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>>16285325
CA based aerospace company
https://www.linkedin.com/company/conksat?trk=public_post_feed-actor-name

Anonymous No. 16285346

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEAYmUbMCdc
>Falcon 9 Grounded After Launch Failure! | Blue Origin, ULA, and Stoke Space Updates | KSC Flyover

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Anonymous No. 16285348

>>16285339
> Here are the people participating in this media call

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw1JXZwo00o
>NASA Provides Background on Space Station Deorbit Planning (July 17, 2024)

Anonymous No. 16285349

Time for all the media questions to be about the SpaceX HQ move and not the DOV

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Anonymous No. 16285352

>>16285292
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1813632705281818671

Anonymous No. 16285353

46 DRACOS

FORTY SIX

Anonymous No. 16285355

>>16285319
massive cringe

Anonymous No. 16285356

10k newtons of thrust when firing all
providing 67m/s of dV

Anonymous No. 16285357

>>16285353
B A S E D
A
S
E
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Anonymous No. 16285358

>>16285352
Does the docking port point through the ISS center of mass?

Anonymous No. 16285359

>>16285340
They're going to use standard NASA launch services program for picking a launch vehicle. The rockets currently listed on the LSP page are the Antares, Atlas V, Falcon 9, Falcon Heavy, Pegasus, and Electron. Several of those are dead/obsolete, and I imagine that Vulcan is going to end up on there once it starts flying regular missions, and who knows what's going to be available in 2028-29.

Anonymous No. 16285362

>>16285356
is it enough dv to de-orbit

Anonymous No. 16285364

>>16284712
It's a waste of energy to talk with luddites.

Anonymous No. 16285365

>>16285356
How many kilometers per second is that?

Anonymous No. 16285366

>>16285334
Draco

Anonymous No. 16285367

>>16285352
They are going to wast a dragon2 for this deorbit?

Anonymous No. 16285369

>>16285362
that was the requirement I think

Anonymous No. 16285370

>>16285280
What is this fantasy where early life on Mars will be like the pioneer days? You'll be in a sprawling factory working as hard as possible to implement a constantly slipping fifty year plan to turn the make/buy curve from mostly buy to mostly make, because the other option is the ships stop coming and either the dream dies or you die

Anonymous No. 16285371

>>16285365
a gorillion

Anonymous No. 16285373

>>16285334
tiny Merlin

Anonymous No. 16285374

>>16285366
Are they Dragon's RCS thrusters?

Anonymous No. 16285375

ummm

Anonymous No. 16285377

I think we need to make a sort of Antartica out of the moon. Noone should be able to claim land there.

Anonymous No. 16285378

>>16285358
Shouldn’t matter as long as they can point the thrust through center mass with thrust vectoring.

Anonymous No. 16285379

>>16284700
Wow. You made me care about politics.

Anonymous No. 16285380

uhh

Anonymous No. 16285384

ummmm

Anonymous No. 16285385

>>16285378
If the engines can't gimbal, the CoM still needs to be on the line of thrust

Or just let it spin, who gives a shit anyway it's trash

Anonymous No. 16285389

えっと

Anonymous No. 16285390

They're gonna swap docking and berthing ports for Axiom station

Anonymous No. 16285391

>>16285373
Merlinettas one might say. Merlinkas perhaps.

Anonymous No. 16285395

>>16285370
I already want to go to mars, you don’t have to keep selling me on it.

Anonymous No. 16285398

>>16284819
>I can't imagine
>I just don't see it
Your lack of imagination is not AIs problem.
A humanoid robot will be able to do every job humans do provided appropriate sensors and sufficient limb dexterity.

Anonymous No. 16285402

>>16284819
>Humans are good at assessing the real world and making decisions
If you understand the notion of access consciousness, that is able to understand whats on the forefront of perception and recall/reason with/manipulate/etc, then you should know that AI can do that today. AI doesn't have phenomenological consciousness that some people think we have, but thats fairy tale to most people too. So AI already is good in that regard.

Anonymous No. 16285406

>>16284998
Intelligent people are also a lot dumber and human than they imagine.

Anonymous No. 16285408

>>16285406
Only so as much as they are able to spin their dumb initial response further with rationality. So dumb with more steps.

Anonymous No. 16285412

>>16285377
Antarctica has defacto territorial claims through bases and the moon will likely be the same. The only people who don't want claims on the moon are those who are too slow to get there. It is the will of a loser, trying to get their better to hold back, and it is by appealing to their better's sense of fairness. The types making this argument would absolutely not do so if they were in the position to get there first and claim the ground.

Anonymous No. 16285414

>>16285377
>>16285412
Countries should not be able to lay claim on Moon/Mars as a territory larger than their asset. However a corporation should be able to lay claim and put in plans to defend their claim with full force of ballistic asteroids powered by rocket engines at the back

Anonymous No. 16285417

>>16285414
The Artemis Accords hold to basically that standard.

Anonymous No. 16285418

>>16285414
Claims are only as big as you can defend. That’s how it has been, how it is now, and how it will continue to be.
If you want half a lunar hemisphere and you can keep people out of it it’s all yours.

Anonymous No. 16285424

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O2MZr9B9XM
water-based roggets when?

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Anonymous No. 16285425

>>16285337
Lmfao

Anonymous No. 16285428

>>16285425
Kessler syndrome: let me introduce myself

Anonymous No. 16285429

>>16285425
KEK

Anonymous No. 16285436

>>16285425
public offering when? i'm going all in on this one.

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Anonymous No. 16285437

>46

Anonymous No. 16285440

>>16285292
>>16285295
>make the tank longer
>add more engines
Is it that easy in rocketry?

Anonymous No. 16285442

>>16285437
T H E
B I G
T R U N K

Anonymous No. 16285444

>>16285395
Me too lol I just don't think most are realistic about what it entails
>>16285440
Always has been

Anonymous No. 16285445

>>16285440
roggets are legos

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16285446

>>16285440
$840 billion plus tip

Anonymous No. 16285447

>>16285446
Okay, it's the taxpayer money anyway.

Anonymous No. 16285448

>>16285440
$840 million plus tip

Anonymous No. 16285449

>>16285440
for some but not others, Northrop's bid was some twice what SpaceX's was

Anonymous No. 16285450

I want to see a comparison pic of dragon XL and Apollo command

Anonymous No. 16285454

Now that spaceX has won the deorbit contract how do we make SpaceX lose said contract using legal means.

Anonymous No. 16285457

>>16285448
Including launch services

Anonymous No. 16285460

>>16284934
When are they sending a boring machine to the moon? I mean isn't that what this whole thing is for, digging habitats and mining?

Anonymous No. 16285470

>>16285460
when they have really really long cables

Anonymous No. 16285474

>>16285460
You need a 384,400,000m long wire, or multiple rockets bringing large batteries back and forth

Anonymous No. 16285477

>>16284934
https://x.com/boringcompany/status/1801326343000322099

Boring Machine being unloaded. ITS THAT EASY

Anonymous No. 16285478

>>16285446
If no one else can compete with them, why would they ask less. spacex is laughing but what can you do?

Anonymous No. 16285479

>>16285478
Northrop Grumman did bid, but it wasn't a very good bid.

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Anonymous No. 16285480

>>16285477
It fits inside Starship.

Anonymous No. 16285482

So, whats up with starliner?
Are they not close to the point of no return with crew on it?

Anonymous No. 16285488

>>16285292
erm what the sigma

Anonymous No. 16285490

>>16284997
Real estate is due for a crash and will suffer huge disruptions in the future. Between air mobility, satellite internet, and humanoid robots, the value of many locations will drop as people no longer need to live next to production centers. Natural beauty and cultural attractions will make some places become even more valuable while many other places plummet, especially office space.
Also a lot of housing demand are due to huge migrations, which will also stop when migrants jobs start to get taken over by robots. People will be fleeing back to less industrialized nations to try to fight over the remaining human jobs. Rent kikes will try to push some way for poorfags to stay like government UBI so they can keep demand high, but in the long term AGI and full automation mean the entire economic model is dead...

Anonymous No. 16285492

>>16285255
try doing science without engineering FAGGOT
all that's left is philosophy of one stripe or another

Anonymous No. 16285495

>>16285490
okay so where should I invest then? Into Tesla or something?

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Anonymous No. 16285501

>>16285346
blue origin campus growing, they also tested the first stage quick disconnect

Anonymous No. 16285502

>>16285272
if you can't do anything you are powerless
any agency you think you have is illusory
get back to watching those marvel movies

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Anonymous No. 16285505

>>16285501
>stoke inteds to fly nova at least 2 times in 2025 with cadence likely increasing to 10 launches a year in 2026 and 2027

Anonymous No. 16285509

>>16285051
It's new for 2024 because orbital manufacturing, moon bases and mars program were all just an expensive unprofitable pipe dream before real hardware like Falcon9 and Starship lowered cost to orbit while increasing launch cadence, payload mass and size.
Now those things can be considered seriously in planning.
By 2030 could be launching private space stations to rival or beat the ISS in size, in just one or two Starship launches (which could even happen in the same day), and moving hundreds of tons to/from the moon. Then you can start to develop microgravity manufacturing technologies.
And if the US doesn't do it, the Chinks will. While NASA is planning to deorbit ISS, Chinks are building their own station right now. They might not be the best innovators but they're not hobbled by bureaucratic bullshit and are pushing ahead on tech, including space. That's why US really needs to double down on space or lose its supremacy in this century.

Anonymous No. 16285512

>china is copying starship
why isnt anyone else? explain yourselves, eurofags.

Anonymous No. 16285514

>>16285201
>Also, the tech industry, which has carried the U.S. economy in the last two decades, has the best overall salaries and benefits in the entire world.
Yeah, by monopolizing industries and destroying and sucking dry the rest of the world, a financial and tech elite growing while everyone else sinks.
That is unsustainable.

Anonymous No. 16285516

>>16285512
They're still trying to copy Falcon 9

Anonymous No. 16285517

>>16285512
Anon, not even the US is copying spaceX&falcon9&starship.
And they are the ones paying for it.
Old space is strong in NASA&ESA.

Anonymous No. 16285518

>>16285517
BO is copying Starship upperstage with Javris

Anonymous No. 16285519

>>16284980
>lol no
>lol no since this month when the herd was prodded in that direction
King Terry had a great word for what you are

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Anonymous No. 16285529

>>16285425
>>16285345
guys

are the normies becoming anti space flight?

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Anonymous No. 16285530

dropping by to recommend an old but good book
https://annas-archive.se/md5/f184f64d557a75c1a07809d8d9512f0f

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Anonymous No. 16285531

>>16285530
> dat TOC

Anonymous No. 16285533

>>16285529
stupid wojakposter

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Anonymous No. 16285537

you will burn in hell anime pedo poster

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Anonymous No. 16285538

I wasn't paying attention, what becomes of Canadarm?

Anonymous No. 16285543

Kek wait wtf, just like that VIPER is dead?

Anonymous No. 16285544

>>16285538
What becomes of the Canadarm?
It falls down and will be departed
I know I've got to find some
kind of peace of mind
Maybe

Anonymous No. 16285546

>>16285480
Can’t bore 9m tunnels in one go is not a selling point anon

Anonymous No. 16285550

>>16285255
>42days
Lmao

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Anonymous No. 16285551

>>16285543
From wikipedia
>Amidst cost growth and delays to readiness of the Griffin lander, the VIPER program was ended in 2024...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VIPER_(rover)
https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-ends-viper-project-continues-moon-exploration/

>...with the rover planned to be dissembled and its components reused for other lunar missions.
Hmmm.

Anonymous No. 16285552

>>16285543
CLPS is a fucking mess

Anonymous No. 16285553

>>16285551
>wiki nigger

Anonymous No. 16285554

>>16285300
>banned for a week
Why are jannies universally trannies?

Anonymous No. 16285555

>>16285552
Turns out you cant repeat the SpaceX miracle. Only SpaceX can repeat the SpaceX miracle.

Anonymous No. 16285559

>>16285543
>>16285551
The Griffin lander is still going, just without the NASA payload.

Anonymous No. 16285562

>>16285559
What’s the point, then, of the griffin lander in the first place

Anonymous No. 16285563

>>16285533
>stupid x-poster
You are very boring

Anonymous No. 16285564

>>16285562
to have a lunar lander that nasa can pay to land stuff on the moon? just because a payload isn't ready now doesn't mean that it's going to be useless for supporting artemis missions in the future

Anonymous No. 16285565

>>16285564
it will be useless either way

Anonymous No. 16285566

>>16285437
Why bother with an actual Dragon capsule? MF Star48 would work.

Anonymous No. 16285568

>>16285512
Africa or maybe India will have a starship before euro

Anonymous No. 16285569

>>16285566
star48 can't exactly fine-tune a deorbit trajectory that needs to be perfect on the first try

Anonymous No. 16285570

>>16285566
NASA exists to be a SpaceX jobs program. That’s why.

Anonymous No. 16285571

>>16285569
Or point is?

Anonymous No. 16285577

>>16285571
>>16285570
Your*

What I'm saying is why do they need the return to earth feature or will it be a modified design with no heat shield and filled with TANKs. Could use a old Dragon 1 craft.

Anonymous No. 16285580

>>16285577
because modifying the design takes time and effort and if you have something on hand that can do the job with the fewest modifications possible then that's usually gonna be the cheapest option for a one-off mission

Anonymous No. 16285584

Wait, is it that NASA has no faith that astro can get the griffin working or NASA fucking up that's caused VIPER's death?

Anonymous No. 16285587

>>16285345
>Missiles, Regime change, Space exploration & destruction
They're not capable of doing jack shit.

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Anonymous No. 16285594

https://x.com/blueorigin/status/1813690261387817177
>We recently completed New Glenn’s first stage test of its six landing legs—a key area for reusability, which lowers the cost of access to space. The landing gear stow inside the rocket during flight, deploying as the booster gently touches down on our landing vessel at sea.

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Anonymous No. 16285595

>>16285594
FUCK
I was gonna post

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Anonymous No. 16285597

Well now.

8Gbps from Starlink Mobile community service.

Anonymous No. 16285598

Chang'e bros we cant stop winning

Anonymous No. 16285601

>>16285597
That's going to change when they open it to the public.

Anonymous No. 16285603

>>16285594
that looks so fucking complicated and over-engineered but maybe its a better solution overall than the legs just being outside like with F9
they were able to design the first stage from ground up to be reusable unlike F9

Anonymous No. 16285605

>>16285594
the low res one is good for my laptop so thanks. looks like it might be able to land if 1 or maybe even 2 legs fail to lock out. i wonder.

Anonymous No. 16285606

>>16285584
Apparently NASA roughly estimated it to be around $200 mil - they just did an internal audit or something and found that figure closer to $600 million.
Any time expected program cost grows over 30% of original estimate it automatically triggers an internal termination review. And they chose to cancel it.

Funny thing is, the rover is complete. It’s done. It is built. It is (or, was) in the middle of environmental testing. And NASA still owes out contracts to the launcher and the lander. So now the lander will fly a boilerplate mission—meanwhile a COMPLETED rover sits, waiting for its parts to get Frankenstein’d into some other stupid program

Anonymous No. 16285608

>>16285601
Not if you take a boat out and find some patch of empty ocean to monopolize.

Anonymous No. 16285613

>>16285601
That's the total throughput for a community access point i.e. something that a small town or a village would be using for cell and internet service. It would be split among the userbase at any given time.
Are you being retarded on purpose?

Anonymous No. 16285617

https://blogs.nasa.gov/stationreport/
>PMA1 and FGB Hardware Gather: Today, the crew gathered equipment from PMA1 and the FGB. This equipment was moved to Node 1 to insure accessibility during upcoming operations.

https://govtribe.com/award/federal-contract-award/delivery-order-nnk14ma74c-80ksc024fa090
>This is a $266,678 firm-fixed-price delivery order contract awarded to Space Exploration Technologies Corp. (SpaceX) by the Kennedy Space Center, a civilian agency of the U.S. government. The contract is for a "SPECIAL STUDY FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE" with a completion date of August 15, 2024

There is something going on with the Russian segment of the ISS and NASA is being quiet about it because of the hissy fit Russia threw after Nauka took them for a spin.

Anonymous No. 16285622

>>16285551
Glad that's not my mission
I wonder who fumbled the bag on this one

Anonymous No. 16285623

>>16285613
Benefits of community nodes like this is that it can serve much more than individual starlinks combined can due to it having larger buffer and larger capacity, thus can add in more subscription ratio per total bandwidth.

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Anonymous No. 16285624

https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1813602124594610672

Anonymous No. 16285625

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1813687942151610871

400K Starlink customers in Canada.

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Anonymous No. 16285627

>>16285624

Anonymous No. 16285630

>>16285247
leftie midwits don't like their carefully echoed """facts""" to be challenged, because that's what makes them """smart"""

Anonymous No. 16285631

>>16285235
They are absolutely malding KEK

Anonymous No. 16285634

>>16285550
Which means this general would last even longer there, since it's a slower board.

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Anonymous No. 16285635

>>16285300
>arsetechnica
I've stopped feeling guilty about their "you have ads disabled" popups for a while now.

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Anonymous No. 16285638

>>16285311
>>16285313

Anonymous No. 16285643

>>16285594
>>16285595
what an ugly piece of SHIT

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Anonymous No. 16285644

>>16285374
there was a special on maneuvering engines that week

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Anonymous No. 16285652

>>16285538
>what becomes of Canadarm?
it will be reborn from the ashes

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Anonymous No. 16285653

>>16285555
>Only SpaceX can repeat the SpaceX miracle.
quads confirm

Anonymous No. 16285655

>>16285652
Imagine the smell

Anonymous No. 16285656

>>16285652
and it's gonna be PISSED. Like VEEGER style pissed

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Anonymous No. 16285657

>>16285655
smells like maple syrup

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Anonymous No. 16285660

>>16285625
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1813704394980180449

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Anonymous No. 16285661

wen hop?

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Anonymous No. 16285662

>>16285597
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1813703783509262677

Anonymous No. 16285666

>>16285661
two weeks

Anonymous No. 16285667

>>16285480
Unfortunately, its mass 2-3x more than the expendable capability of Starship.

Anonymous No. 16285670

>>16285594
reminder that new glenn needs to be ready in 10 weeks to hit escaPADE's launch window

Anonymous No. 16285673

>>16285667
Chop it into thirds and launch three Starships

Anonymous No. 16285674

>>16285617
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/06/on-the-space-station-band-aid-fixes-for-systemic-problems/

Anonymous No. 16285675

>>16285667
but if they leave the battery out and just use cables it should be ok right?

Anonymous No. 16285683

>>16285594
>>16285595
wtf is this? eternally suborbital

Anonymous No. 16285687

>>16285594
arent these small for at sea landings?

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Anonymous No. 16285706

>>16285667
Nah. It weighs ~20T-30T.

Anonymous No. 16285709

>>16285699
>>16285700
now kiss

Anonymous No. 16285711

>>16285652
>CanadARMED
prepared to put the Rake in Moonraker

Anonymous No. 16285714

>>16285699
>>16285700
ick. Please, PLEASE don't do Elon.

Anonymous No. 16285717

>>16285700
rocket lab a cute. CUTE

Anonymous No. 16285736

>>16285594
Legs are old tech, modern rockets use chopsticks

Anonymous No. 16285739

>>16285594
Those are fucking tiny for such a big rocket. That thing is 100% going to fall over.

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Anonymous No. 16285741

>>16285606
>they just did an internal audit or something
I think it's the GAO report, pages 59-60
>Although NASA approved the new project life-cycle cost of $505 million, final costs will likely exceed that amount.
>As of April 2024, the VIPER project reported that all project fiscal year 2024 funding would be exhausted by July 2024.
>Project officials report that vendor delivery issues and supply chain concerns posed cost and schedule challenges for the project.
>While the project received all critical hardware from its vendors as of November 2023, officials stated that key hardware deliverables were up to 18 months late.
>The VIPER lunar delivery date was moved to November 2024 because NASA wanted Astrobotic to conduct additional testing on the company’s Griffin lander propulsion system.
>Project officials said that NASA wanted to lower the mission risk because of the importance of VIPER and the resources invested in the project.
>In January 2024, the first mission using the Astrobotic Peregrine lander failed due to propulsion system issues after launch. Astrobotic planned to use information from the Peregrine lander to help inform development of the Griffin lander.
Huh, all the warning signs were there, also
> NASA officials explained they had confidence in the VIPER cost estimate and, if additional cost reserves were required, that would be addressed through the request process.
So that was a fucking lie kek.

Anonymous No. 16285746

>>16285601
Those are designed for places that don't have a public

Anonymous No. 16285760

>>16285594
Remember guys, first mission is in October.

Anonymous No. 16285762

Umm boing sisters why have the astronauts exceeded their mission length by a month?

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Anonymous No. 16285763

>>16285700

Anonymous No. 16285781

>>16285606
>>16285741
30% cost overrun is a safe safe for when the program would be shit or not.

Anonymous No. 16285798

>>16284915
It stops rape, somehow.

Anonymous No. 16285802

>>16285741
>>16285781
This is the fate of SLS btw

And in this instance - there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for some stupid little Sojourner-tier moon lander to cost $200 million+ in the year 2024. Should have been done for a fraction of that cost, or not done at all to begin with.

Anonymous No. 16285807

>>16285184
Here's mine.
Just take everyone out of LA and move them someplace else.

Anonymous No. 16285810

Day 41 of the 8 day mission.

Anonymous No. 16285811

>>16285807
I propose the nearest deep ditch

Anonymous No. 16285813

>>16285807
There's ocean to the left. So just throw them overboard.

Anonymous No. 16285816

>>16284728
Some medical jobs for sure. It will be a long while until old sick people are OK with automated care. Not til the generation raised by robo-nanies enters hospice. There'd no mechanical substitute for TLC

Anonymous No. 16285818

>>16284742
>anon runs a roofing crew
You're probably right, we are a long way off from a JorgéBot

Anonymous No. 16285819

>>16285763
thank u again for booby

Anonymous No. 16285827

https://fireflyspace.com/news/leadership-change-at-firefly/
Firefly CEO ousted

Anonymous No. 16285834

>>16285802
>Sojourner-tier
Anon that's a bit uncharitable Sojourner is the size of an RC car to VIPER's golf cart

Anonymous No. 16285839

>>>/wsg/5620978

America is going backwards

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Anonymous No. 16285841

Ching Chong 12 can launch 12 tons to LEO

Anonymous No. 16285849

https://x.com/Teslaconomics/status/1813563120717369547

It's over, Biden is calling Musk out in a campaign ad and Trump is praising Starship

I know where my vote is going

Anonymous No. 16285858

>>16285849
>Biden is calling Musk out in a campaign ad
where?

Anonymous No. 16285859

>>16285858
https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1813716534499393678

Joe Cocksucker posted it

Anonymous No. 16285860

>>16285798
How unfortunate

Anonymous No. 16285861

>>16285858
https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1813716534499393678
if he gets reelection he might be petty enough to go after SpaceX even harder, become an obstacle to Mars in the way Trump wouldn't so

Anonymous No. 16285862

>>16285859
>>16285861
maximum cringe

Anonymous No. 16285865

>>16285859
>>16285861
>it's just unimaginative donation bad
disappointing

Anonymous No. 16285868

>>16285859
Post webm. I don't have a Twitter account

Anonymous No. 16285871

>>16285868
Still playing the cock sucking game? LMAO

Anonymous No. 16285874

>>16285871
>buy Twitter to make it more accessible as a public platform
>prevents use without account

Anonymous No. 16285875

>>16285861
>if he gets reelection he might be petty enough to go after SpaceX even harder, become an obstacle to Mars in the way Trump wouldn't so
yeah its a real concern. nasa, the military, etc. got his back, but there may only be so much that they can do to protect him from the left. on the bright side, that could lead to elon pushing spacex harder which could up the mars colonization by 2-3 years.

Anonymous No. 16285879

>>16285875
Military yes NASA no
NASA doesn't give a shit about declines or budgets, other than to bitch about them.

Anonymous No. 16285882

>>16285868
https://nitter.poast.org/JoeBiden/status/1813716534499393678

Anonymous No. 16285883

>>16285874
Either support the cause or dont you dumb fucking faggot

Anonymous No. 16285884

>>16285874
Everyone and their mother has multiple online accounts. If your personal politics is preventing you from reading space news, then you're not a space fan. You're a partisan troon.

Anonymous No. 16285887

>>16285849
BYE BYE FAA HAHAHAHA

Anonymous No. 16285891

>>16285884
I don't use Twitter because I don't consent to their privacy policies

Pro tip for that other guy: https://nitter.poast.org

Anonymous No. 16285893

In the future, maybe 5-10 years,Texas will be a purple state. It is of paramount importance that the Mars city begin seeding as soon as possible, for eventually the USA will have no safe haven for innovators. Mars can be the new free world

Anonymous No. 16285897

>>16285884
>Everyone and their mother has multiple online accounts
yes your retarded ass does.

Anonymous No. 16285901

Since this thread is already off topic. Here is Aerojet-Shekeldyne actually designing cost out of an engine.

https://www.flightglobal.com/analysis/analysis-3d-printing-brings-scramjet-engines-closer-to-reality/133652.article

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https://www.fpds.gov/ezsearch/search.do?q=PIID%3A%2280KSC024FA090%22&s=FPDS.GOV&templateName=1.5.3&indexName=awardfull&sortBy=SIGNED_DATE&desc=Y
>NASA awards SpaceX ComCrew contract for "Special Study for Emergency Response"
Uhhhh, Starliner bros?

Anonymous No. 16285912

>>16285827
for "an inappropriate relationship with an employee"

Anonymous No. 16285914

>>16285893
>In the future, maybe 5-10 years,Texas will be a purple state
-democrats for the last 25 years

Anonymous No. 16285917

>>16285912
If SpaceX can handle it x10 then firefly would be fine

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Anonymous No. 16285918

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-07-16/musk-says-spacex-to-move-headquarters-to-texas-from-california
Did anybody read Miss Piggy's hit piece?

Anonymous No. 16285922

>>16285918
https://archive.is/Tf5yC

No need to give clicks

Anonymous No. 16285923

>>16285922
https://archive.is/O47HO

Proper

Anonymous No. 16285925

JWST data on KIC 8462852 being published WHEN?

Anonymous No. 16285926

>>16285922
I will refresh the page 50 times just because you did that

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Anonymous No. 16285949

>>16285858
>>16285868

Anonymous No. 16285950

>>16284728
security guard that stands by the door at your grocery store

Anonymous No. 16285951

>>16285949
Four years ago some anons would call you crazy for suggesting that Biden was anti-Space X.

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Anonymous No. 16285954

>>16284731
>human created art works. From paintings to pottery, whatever
AI is already the world's best artist

Anonymous No. 16285958

>>16285827
https://x.com/Firefly_Space/status/1813706866628968954
Everyone is sleeping it seems.

Anonymous No. 16285961

https://x.com/NeuraPod/status/1813768455545590084

New $15M Neuralink Facility being builtin Austin

Anonymous No. 16285965

>>16285961
Fuck yourself not spaceflight

Anonymous No. 16285968

>>16285954
No one is buying AI art though, it has utility for shit like video games, advertisements, whatever, but it's never going to replace hand painted art that people buy to hang on their walls.

Anonymous No. 16285971

>>16285968
I wish that were true but somehow AI genners are getting comms and patreon money now.

Anonymous No. 16285973

>>16285849
It's like he wants to lose. Losing party support utterly buck broke him. Damn.

Anonymous No. 16285976

>>16285907
The cope will be that it's merely precautionary as they complete testing so they don't have to scramble should it be needed.

Anonymous No. 16285979

>>16284930
>each

Anonymous No. 16285984

>>16285023
(protip: the States elect the President of the United States, not the people called "Americans")

Anonymous No. 16285987

>>16285107
eventually you will have a humanoid butler/cook/laundress and when they are feeling "drained" they will walk up to the nearest wall outlet, reach out one of their hands towards it, and plug the standard three-prong tip of one of their fingers into the socket, all while assuring you they will be back to work after a short "rest". Comfy.

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Anonymous No. 16285991

what is actually going on here>?

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Anonymous No. 16285994

>>16285991
IT'S SO FUCKING OVER FOR ELON RIGHT NOW, BLUE ORIGIN WILL REACH MARS LONG BEFORE SPACE-WRECKS DOES

Anonymous No. 16286002

>>16285994
first reach orbit and then we can talk, Jeff.

Anonymous No. 16286004

>>16285192
great location for Gutter Masters

Anonymous No. 16286006

>>16285514
>Yeah, by monopolizing industries and destroying and sucking dry the rest of the world, a financial and tech elite growing while everyone else sinks.
cool it with the anti-semitism

Anonymous No. 16286008

>>16285991
Something I've been saying for the last 4-5 years.

Anonymous No. 16286009

>>16286008
I'm sick?

Anonymous No. 16286010

>>16286009
We all are

Anonymous No. 16286011

>>16286008
You've only been complaining about people buying elections for 5 years?

Anonymous No. 16286012

>>16285236
that nigga eatin beans

Anonymous No. 16286017

>>16285951
Maybe he's just anti hyperloop

Anonymous No. 16286020

>>16285951
lol no, dems have been anti space ever since obama.

Anonymous No. 16286021

>>16285951
We all knew this entire time it wasn’t exactly cryptic

Anonymous No. 16286024

>>16285474
it's like you don't have the will to power or something

Anonymous No. 16286028

>>16286021
I distinctly recall a large crowd of persistent idiots who would screech at anyone who suggested the Biden presidency would be bad for space and biased against Spacex. They kept at it well into 2022.

Anonymous No. 16286034

>>16286028
Well I wouldn't go that far but yes there was the persistent argument that biden would want to claim spacex successes to leave trump with less ammo.

Anonymous No. 16286035

>>16286034
Never seen that argument ever. Until now. You're making shit up

Anonymous No. 16286036

>>16286035
Meds. It happened.

Anonymous No. 16286037

>>16286035
the persistent argument was in his head, but it did go on for years and did involve hundreds of distinct voices

Anonymous No. 16286040

>>16286037
Sorry sister. You're hallucinating.

Anonymous No. 16286041

>>16284959
30kV 3 phase 100A would be probably enough. Who the fuck would pump air underground and then exhaust back?

Anonymous No. 16286056

>>16286034
>persistent argument that biden would want to claim spacex successes to leave trump with less ammo
This is so bafflingly counter to reality that I have to assume you either dreamt it or chatgpt made it up for you.

Anonymous No. 16286130

>>16286028
What we were yelling about is the theory that Biden influenced regulatory agencies to start persecuting Musk's businesses after the Twitter buy. It seemed unlikely at the time, but the media arm of Biden's party quickly developed EDS and infected the rest of the blob. The lawsuit about hiring refugees was perhaps the most bizarre part of this saga.

Anonymous No. 16286218

next stage
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>>16286216
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Anonymous No. 16286219

>>16286130
>It seemed unlikely at the time
It seemed pretty likely to me, but I had long expected his party to wage petty lawfare against their political adversaries.

Anonymous No. 16287160

>>16285300
so that's why ars comments are so left wing, they just ban everybody who isn't a leftist from commenting

Anonymous No. 16287165

>>16285568
they dont have the human capital for tech that advanced yet in india and definitely not anywhere in africa. maybe in 50-70 years in india when starship has been copied by 5-10 organizations already and probably never in africa