🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 03:32:42 UTC No. 16281941
V2 Hardware Sighting Edition
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Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 03:36:42 UTC No. 16281944
First for RIP falcon 9
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 03:38:42 UTC No. 16281947
>>16281941
Is their solution to hinge heat shielding to just "skip it for now, do it later lmao"
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 03:41:02 UTC No. 16281950
>>16281947
The whole heat shield is getting replaced.
It's not the ablative underlay.
Also the solution is moving the flap leeward which V2 does.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 03:56:54 UTC No. 16281959
>>16281947
Best part is no part, they just gonna rawdog it. Fuck the heatshield nigga.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 04:23:51 UTC No. 16281976
>>16281941
Glass the Earth, demigod war eventually
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 04:25:16 UTC No. 16281979
>>16281941
>dented tin can
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 04:28:34 UTC No. 16281982
>>16281979
It just werks
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 04:50:50 UTC No. 16282006
>>16281992
Genuinely ugly piece of shit, single engines protruding, very disrespectful.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 07:29:04 UTC No. 16282100
/sfg/ has died. Though I think right now its because F9 is grounded and we are waiting on Starship plus >>>/pol/ happenings pull attention.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 07:42:43 UTC No. 16282106
>>16282100
Shows how much of the general are nasty crossboarders. It's has actually been quite comfy since old mate did the needful, a little like the old days.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 07:48:26 UTC No. 16282110
>>16282100
You also forgot the fact that it's the weekend. It should be more lively later today.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 07:59:57 UTC No. 16282116
>>16282096
sauce?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:09:44 UTC No. 16282124
>>16282122
What a disgusting mass of gelatin
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:12:54 UTC No. 16282126
>>16282122
This guy now has to be turned into a wojak.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:17:01 UTC No. 16282127
>>16282124
Send the fatoid SS to round him up and send to fat camp, give him a donut a week if he cuts his hair and keeps clean shaven.
>>16282126
No that's what he wants. DO NOT
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:22:49 UTC No. 16282129
>>16282127
>fat camp where they do nothing all day long
>not a forced labor camp where you extract energy from their fat asses until they die
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:29:30 UTC No. 16282133
>>16282129
We can extract oils from the blubber to light our lamps
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:30:57 UTC No. 16282135
>>16282096
So they actually fill the tanks? I thought it just draws it directly from the ground
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:31:34 UTC No. 16282136
>>16282129
Nah they can be made productive and healthy members of society again. You just gotta send them to fat fuck concentration camp while everyone else kills nestle and coca cola executives. Fatoids will come back looking alright and be unable to indulge in processed foods again so will stay fairly healthy.
As you can see in the diagram, the proposal is that they spend enough time in there not eating that they get thin enough to escape through the human sized bars, they can get out quicker by hopping on the stairmasters. Look, how about we replace the stairmasters with static bicycles that generate power as a compromise?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:33:39 UTC No. 16282139
>>16282133
Can legally be done with liposuction
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:36:29 UTC No. 16282141
FAT HATE IS OFF TOPIC THIS IS THE SCIENCE BOARD
>>>/pol/
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:40:27 UTC No. 16282144
>>16282141
Fat hate is absolutely on topic on every single board when I'm forced to look at these repulsive ogres in the replies. I'm sending the crane to your location fatoid, time to slim down by force.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:54:29 UTC No. 16282157
>lose two planes filled with hundreds of passengers on a brand new aircraft type
>fight tooth and nail to avoid grounding the fleet even as most countries already ground that shit
>vs
>one unmanned upper stage of the most reliable vehicle known to date releases its satellites too low, leading to it and its payload eventually burning up without further incident
>GROUND. EVERY. THING.
I hate the FAA. Just ground crew dragons and let the customers decide on everything else. Why the fuck ground the entire fleet for this absolute nothing burger. You can investigate while the fleet is flying. With fucking passenger planes full of hundreds of people they historically let everything fly until at least two have fucked up. What is this.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 09:02:49 UTC No. 16282163
>>16281959
Just have an ablative upper stage and do a virtual landing.
We can just 3D print the virtual astronauts on the ground after.
Continuation of consciousness can be solved at a later date.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 09:13:01 UTC No. 16282174
>>16282144
Fat hate is one of the many symptoms of oldspace mass autism. Starship will be the true enabler of equality in space.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 09:16:55 UTC No. 16282178
>>16282157
Yeah it's fucked. I get grounding crew dragons (even though they have abort system but fine whatever, rather not have another challenger even though they seem determined to let boeing kill their test pilots), but grounding the rest of the launches, the huge majority of which are internal starlink launches, is fucked. Maybe have an advisory notice for commercial launches until the problem is identified and let the customers decide, like you say. So we are waiting on who the fuck knows how long for this shit to be resolved for Falon 9 and another who the fuck knows how long for a fresh starship FAA permit since the mission profile is changing to include booster capture.
If this continues I genuinely think the chinks might catch up. They have all the moles inside aerospace thanks to DEI and a zero fucks given gogogogo policy for launches and development.
Someone was saying earlier about Elon needing to play the bribe game, he really does. These delays are unacceptable for the cost of paying off some political fuckheads, he is potentially risking the future of our entire species because he believes in honest business in a corrupt as fuck nation for some absolutely retarded reason.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 09:19:43 UTC No. 16282180
>>16282178
imagine grounding all container ships when one gets stuck in a canal
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 09:21:25 UTC No. 16282181
>>16282141
put the soda down, piggy
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 09:32:22 UTC No. 16282183
>>16281896
>>16281898
>>16281926
Is it so unbelievable nowadays? It's happened, or at least gotten close to zero. An example: there are records of the dire financial straits of british governors in africa who felt they had to return any gifts from the locals with a gift of perceived equal value out of their own pocket rather than owe them any administrative favours. Corruption can be made extinct, and mostly was amongst european powers and some others.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 09:34:38 UTC No. 16282184
>>16282178
>pay the bribes
Pay the danegeld, get the dane.
they'll come back for more, others will want a cut.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 09:37:57 UTC No. 16282187
guys, after everything that happened, i believe in God now. and I believe God wants us to go to space. through a new prophet Donald Trump, the regulatory state will mwlt away. The FAA will be no more, a they are one of the innumerable federal agencies not functioning. you're fired. and the EPA too. A new dawn will soon be upon us, and suns will rise on our new worlds
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 09:54:34 UTC No. 16282194
>>16282127
>No that's what he wants. DO NOT
I'm sorry, but it had to be done.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 09:59:28 UTC No. 16282195
>>16282184
>they'll come back for more, others will want a cut
Once you are of a sufficient size, it doesn't matter because you have more than enough cash to pay off petty beauracrats and you dont need to anyway. Important people are paid off with a one off bribe promise of some useless management roles thats basically getting paid to exist, smaller but still very important peons are paid off and they guard their money/position jealously and do not let their lessers get a cut until they dicksuck their way to the near top. Please pay attention to corporate America my man. SpaceX could be running completely delay free for the cost of maybe 50-100m dollars on the absolute outside, more like 10-20m realistically. We live in a truly capitalist society where everything from corn and dirt to the highest politicians have a price and yet Elon is not playing the game. It's fucking embarrassing.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 10:01:05 UTC No. 16282199
>>16282194
dumb wojakposter
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 10:22:40 UTC No. 16282215
>>16279147
>mass drivers
>on venus
>which has a gravity almost as strong as earth
>and even with all the CO2 precipitated out an atmosphere 9 times as dense as earth
>using mass drivers to fling 80 earth atmospheres worth of CO2 into space
It's not happening.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 10:56:54 UTC No. 16282237
>>16282215
Yeah it's not happening. Need giant fleets of sci fi tier giga nigga cloud scoops with fusion drives unless you want to be stuck cloud city cucking it forever.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 10:58:37 UTC No. 16282238
>>16282237
Thats even more retarded than the solar shade idea.
At least solar shades aren't sci-fi.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:03:13 UTC No. 16282241
BRING THEM HOME
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:04:32 UTC No. 16282243
>>16282195
Hiring these useless bureaucrats would fuck up the management structure and slow things down
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:06:05 UTC No. 16282245
Spacex should move to china
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:07:29 UTC No. 16282248
>>16282195
Kill all danes
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:08:48 UTC No. 16282250
>>16282215
I mean all of that is far enough in the future that you can just handwave some magical exponentially self replicating factories until the entire surface is transformed into a machine working for the sole purpose of creating a second Earth. There's no physics reason why not, but it's too far in the future to be thread relevant
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:18:03 UTC No. 16282254
>>16282243
They don't go into useful or decicive positions m8, it's just a glorified retirement.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:28:59 UTC No. 16282263
>>16282250
No, that doesn't work because mass drivers don't work on venus, the gravity is too high and the atmosphere too thick even after getting all the CO2 out that you cannot use mass drivers to get anything to space.
Mass drivers are for low gravity airless worlds like the moon, they don't work on planets with high gravity and dense atmosphere, they don't even work on earth. Why do you think we use rockets rather than mass drivers?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:42:32 UTC No. 16282273
i would genuinely feel more freedom in a small habitat on mars than in the most luxurious private resort on earth. there is something about earth being a completely occupied space not only in the literal sense but also in the sense that its overburdened by societies histories systems etc. i feel suffocating on earth even when visiting the most beautiful places but the mere thought of being on mars makes me breath fully. i dont know how to explain it
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:53:09 UTC No. 16282286
>>16282263
We're talking very far in the future. You could also just turn the carbon into bricks and build mountains out of them, Venus is pretty flat due to being melted all the time.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:56:52 UTC No. 16282288
>>16282286
>You could also just turn the carbon into bricks and build mountains out of them
On venus? What use is that? You can't warm the planet up again cause your ginormous mountain of CO2 will turn back into a gas and you'll be back at square one.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 12:01:10 UTC No. 16282290
>>16282288
I didn't say freeze it
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 12:02:14 UTC No. 16282291
>>16282180
Don't even get me started on safety standards in the shipping industry. Most ships sailing at any given time are barely overseen, poorly staffed, ancient pieces of fucking shit with god knows how many design flaws. But nobody gives a shit about a few dozen filipinos being swallowed by Poseidon every few weeks so nothing gets addressed.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 12:07:07 UTC No. 16282296
>>16282291
I look forward to the day that spaceflight will be as ubiquitous and lax as this
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 12:09:12 UTC No. 16282297
>>16282183
It only exists in pockets, but not as wholes of society. Elon is that pocket of space. So are some of your examples. These exists throughout all of history in all of human society. But ultimately the overall society is filled with not just honest people but also dishonest people, maybe not so evil as rather lapses in their ethical standards and habitual formations.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 12:20:46 UTC No. 16282305
hello does someone know how the FAA investigation is progressing?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 12:26:28 UTC No. 16282310
>>16282305
dont worry about it
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 12:30:01 UTC No. 16282311
>>16282291
A ship of pajeets took out an american bridge but no one gives a shit it seems. No pause from that
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 12:31:03 UTC No. 16282313
>>16282310
I assume the hands have been greased then
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 12:31:15 UTC No. 16282314
>>16282305
2 more months + environmental review
Elon endorsing trump might mean and extra 3 months delay just to be cute
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 12:32:03 UTC No. 16282316
>>16282314
I wonder if that was timing or an attempt to bury Falcon 9 news
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 12:32:18 UTC No. 16282318
>>16282288
Retarded and reading comprehension of a nigger
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 12:36:39 UTC No. 16282321
>>16282314
Extra few months at minimum. Stupid cunt won't just boeingmaxx to pay off all the faggots because he's le ebin defender of classical liberalism. Von Braun would throw Elon into the V-2 slave production crew with the lazy kikes if he could see this fucking total lack of political awareness.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 12:44:50 UTC No. 16282326
>>16282290
The issue with this is converting all the CO2 to pure carbon would also release a lot of oxygen, which with as much CO2 there was thats gonna be a pretty significant fraction of venus's previous atmosphere, of which is now gonna be almost entirely oxygen.
Everyone in this thread should know the problem with majority oxygen atmosphere.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 12:52:11 UTC No. 16282335
>>16282326
could you get the surface cold enough with sunshades to condense the nitrogen? then presumably you could use gay mass drivers to export CO2
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:00:57 UTC No. 16282338
>>16282326
Could you just grind up the entire crust into a powder and let it rust?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:08:24 UTC No. 16282345
>>16282338
as far as I can tell that shit's already oxidized
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:14:58 UTC No. 16282349
>>16282347
It was a good video. NSF generally makes great stuff but their livestreams other than the 24/7 one are unbearably awkward and shillfilled
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:21:11 UTC No. 16282352
>>16282349
yeah, though the quality of videos is variable
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:26:01 UTC No. 16282356
>>16282345
Looks like we need to get hydrogen from somewhere
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:28:00 UTC No. 16282360
>>16282335
I don't think that would help much, venus's gravity is still too high and theres still trace gases you can't get out, while it'd be left with an atmosphere about current day mars thinness thats still quite a lot for a mass driver to get through.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:38:24 UTC No. 16282366
>>16282335
Actually you might wanna do this anyway, mass drivers on venus is stupid but you still wanna get rid of some of venus's nitrogen, it has 2.8 bar of it which causes mild narcosis. However mars has basically no nitrogen which is a problem for having an earth like biosphere.
You could fix both these problems by taking nitrogen from venus and sending it to mars. The high gravity of venus does present a problem however.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:42:43 UTC No. 16282368
>>16282367
I don't think we know enough about the surface of venus to write an entire book about venus geology.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:53:02 UTC No. 16282379
eta on ift-5?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:54:40 UTC No. 16282380
>>16282367
>Venus Geology, Geochemistry, and Geophysics: Research Results from the Soviet Union
This is probably what you want for geology.
>The Planet Venus by Ellen Mary Clerke
Is probably what you want for history of thought although it's from 1895
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 13:56:09 UTC No. 16282383
>>16282379
Two weeks
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 14:05:48 UTC No. 16282389
>>16282367
Venus was a star that moved, then a planet, then a planet with jungles, then a barren hellscape inferno scoured by acidic winds at a pressure comparable to the ocean at significant depth
Magellan and Venus Express provided much of what we know about the surface. I'd start with their papers.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 14:09:02 UTC No. 16282391
>>16282379
Middle of August
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 14:18:51 UTC No. 16282405
booster 12 static fire today
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 14:39:09 UTC No. 16282435
>>16282428
Seeing how they replace some or most of the clamp's parts every launch, they must be testing something that can survive or avoid the blast.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 14:46:19 UTC No. 16282441
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 14:51:36 UTC No. 16282446
>>16282389
>Venus was a star that moved, then a planet, then a planet with jungles, then a barren hellscape inferno scoured by acidic winds at a pressure comparable to the ocean at significant depth
wow thanks, so helpful. If only it came with citations and examples and was more than a sentence long.
>>16282380
Thanks, I’ll check these out.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 14:52:36 UTC No. 16282447
>>16282431
>part count reduction
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 14:58:25 UTC No. 16282450
>>16282446
Pay him research funding if you want a paper from him faggot
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:00:12 UTC No. 16282451
>>16282441
almost looks like WDR?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:00:20 UTC No. 16282452
Why arent you fucknuts paying attention to the static fire.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:01:08 UTC No. 16282454
>>16282450
I said I wanted book recommendations dipshit. Not for him to summarize it himself.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:01:13 UTC No. 16282455
>>16282431
massively simplified
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:07:29 UTC No. 16282461
>>16282452
I've seen like 30 static fires at this point. Remember that time they did two in a row on the same day and anon was SURE they wouldn't?
Good times.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:14:48 UTC No. 16282472
static fire, looked pretty long duration
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:17:17 UTC No. 16282474
Longest one I can think of
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:18:27 UTC No. 16282477
missed it because I was reading an article about Starships future capabilities
lmaooo
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:18:58 UTC No. 16282478
Yeah filthy crossboarders didnt even attend the static fire. Filthy scum arent here for anything but their fantasy of going to space (they never will).
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:19:29 UTC No. 16282479
>>16282478
tsmt
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:20:11 UTC No. 16282480
>>16282478
are the crossboarders in the room with us right now?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:21:57 UTC No. 16282481
>>16282478
I posted the link but didn't watch it lmao
its not like a static fire is some unprecedent wierd thing anymore
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:22:21 UTC No. 16282482
>>16282478
These are becoming like Falcon 9 static fires to me
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:24:40 UTC No. 16282485
>>16282479
SEX0
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:32:04 UTC No. 16282492
>>16282187
why did he let the bullet hit the "hero" fire figher
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:34:06 UTC No. 16282493
>>16282478
let's call them what they really are
anti anime posters
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:44:32 UTC No. 16282504
>>16282493
Would you consider rocketgirlposting and anti-anime posting one in the same? I dont think so but lets hear it
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:45:33 UTC No. 16282505
>>16282504
Anime posting* not anti
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 15:56:10 UTC No. 16282521
>>16282273
Imagine being a surveyor on Mars. You live in your rover for months on end, weaving from one point of interest to the next across an area the size of Australia. You perform basic maintenance, collect samples, and file your reports back to Earth. The rover drives itself while you sleep, though you take over when the terrain gets rough.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:04:47 UTC No. 16282525
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:05:24 UTC No. 16282526
>>16282524
Cock and balls
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:06:25 UTC No. 16282528
>>16282524
Ooh it's garbage day for the ISS
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:16:53 UTC No. 16282536
>>16282521
Unfortunately it's cheaper for the person driving the rover to be on Earth like we've already done so that's how they'll do it. Hell we'll probably see a Starship load of semi autonomous helicopter drones (10,000 or so) sent to survey the entire planet fairly soon here. Like, before human landing
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:17:32 UTC No. 16282537
Does anyone know why this Cygnus has a box stuck to its side? Is it an experiment or just old hardware that they don't want to throw overboard like that battery pack that they crashed into Florida?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:27:12 UTC No. 16282543
>>16282492
no such thing as a free lunch
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:30:22 UTC No. 16282546
>>16282524
>>16282525
When are they gonna make this a crew vehicle?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:32:09 UTC No. 16282550
>>16282536
>10kg drone responsible for an area the size of Hawaii
Is this realistic? Is that an actual plan anyone has?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:34:14 UTC No. 16282551
>>16282314
is that for Falcon or SS?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:35:54 UTC No. 16282553
>>16282546
Whenever the first gateway modules launch so tentatively… 2027?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:36:07 UTC No. 16282554
>>16282524
Why are they departing over a desert? Political message?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:37:08 UTC No. 16282555
Reminder that we have a sisterthread
>>16281899
>>16281899
>>16281899
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:49:22 UTC No. 16282565
>>16282555
Nobody cares not spaceflight fuck off
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 17:00:39 UTC No. 16282576
>>16282575
Ayy truther* not flerfer
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 17:05:57 UTC No. 16282585
>>16282536
>>16282550
Just send flying drones to mars instead. Send in 100 of them. Each of them having the capability to recharge via solar panel (and be able to clean itself for maintenance). And each one having enough battery backup as well. If each of them can go ~1 mile distance per day, recharge, land, clean, send data back to station via wifi/starlink/etc. It would be able to mapout the entire mars area in few months all on its own.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 17:06:58 UTC No. 16282586
>>16282575
The guy is a retard. The answer to single point of failure like F9 isn't other companies. Its to get Starship online asap.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 17:10:13 UTC No. 16282593
>>16282585
Is it finally time for Ares?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 17:11:38 UTC No. 16282595
>>16282593
Not a plane, a quad copter drone that weighs less than 10 kg each.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 17:16:00 UTC No. 16282596
>>16282575
He isn't seething he's just saying what happened lol. SpaceX has a monopoly and now the entire launch market is waiting on the FAA.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 17:16:42 UTC No. 16282597
>>16282595
Aw. It's never time for Ares :(
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 17:19:29 UTC No. 16282599
>>16282585
Why just 100? We'll be able to send 100 tons to Mars shortly. Why not send a fleet capable of taking a sample every square kilometer? Find where the metal and water is, map out a 50 year infrastructure plan before anyone even sets foot there
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 17:31:59 UTC No. 16282610
Methane+oxygen monoprop when?
>If Tannenbaum’s mixtures were bad, that proposed at a monopropellant conference in October 1957 by an optimist from Air Products, Inc., was enough to raise the hair on the head of anybody in the propellant business. He suggested that a mixture of liquid oxygen and liquid methane would be an extra high-energy monopropellant, and had even worked out the phase diagrams of the system.* How he avoided suicide (the first rule in handling liquid oxygen is that you never, never let it come in contact with a potential fuel) is an interesting question, particularly as JPL later demonstrated that you could make the mixture detonate merely by shining a bright light on it. Nevertheless, ten years later I read an article seriously proposing an oxygen-methane monopropellant! Apparently junior engineers are allergic to the history of their own business
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 17:32:30 UTC No. 16282612
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/181269
>Recently, Lightyear Exploration (Jiangsu) Space Technology Co., Ltd. successfully trial-produced the first wooden skin fairing in Taicang.
>The fairing has a diameter of 1.6 meters and a height of 5 meters. It is made of flame-retardant plywood wood skin, thin steel plate welded skeleton for vehicles, etc. The structural weight, carrying capacity, wave permeability and other indicators are better than composite products, and the manufacturing cost of the fairing is reduced to the level of general industrial structural products.
>Lightyear Exploration adheres to the entrepreneurial concept of developing high-end aerospace structural products in a new positive direction with industrial materials, processes and equipment. It has taken the lead in developing products such as stainless steel expansion storage tanks and wooden skin fairings in China, as well as the inter-stage, inter-box, and tail structures derived from the fairing column technology. The products cover all the main structures of the rocket, accounting for about 60% of the total weight of the rocket structure, accounting for about 30% of the total cost of current rocket manufacturing, which can save hundreds of millions of yuan in manufacturing costs for a medium- and large-scale rocket similar to Falcon-9.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 17:40:36 UTC No. 16282615
>>16282129
The stairmasters generate electricity
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 17:45:32 UTC No. 16282618
>>16282478
filthy crossboarder here that didn't watch the static fire
I'd probably shit my pants riding in a rocket. I just want to vicariously think about astronauts in a big comfy space ship like sci fi shows desu
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 17:53:26 UTC No. 16282623
>>16282586
>>16282575
Nothing is stopping another company from building their own rocket to compete with Falcon 9, many companies have tried. No one has come close to SpaceX yet, and that is down to the vision and competency of SpaceX engineers. They continue to improve their products, rather than resting on their laurels. If the market has not given them a competitor, then they chose to out compete their past accomplishments.
There are other rockets, but with their cadence, and cost, they really are not a redundancy to F9.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 18:02:57 UTC No. 16282638
https://x.com/WLR_2678/status/18128
>Long March 12 simulator on its strongback in transport at Hainan Commercial Launch Site. The rocket will be the first to debut from HICAL pads, currently scheduled to be next month.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 18:06:21 UTC No. 16282642
>>16282612
>cheap lightweight bioplastic with an established supply chain and endlessly specific tools
It's a wonder more rockets aren't made from wood
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 18:08:50 UTC No. 16282645
>>16282623
>engineers
There have always been engineers, SpaceX is unique in the management structure. Though I guess the unique part is that those managers are also engineers
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 18:16:16 UTC No. 16282655
>>16282536
A human has the advantage of instantaneous control - rovers today move extremely deliberately because they're waiting for orders from Earth, and Earth is waiting for feedback on how their last meter of travel went. This might get better with AI self-driving. But a human driver can also get out and swing a hammer.
>>16282585
As for helicopter drones: the atmosphere on Mars is incredibly thin, making it very hard to generate lift. That's why it needs a 350W motor and takes a full day to get enough charge for 90s of flight. That's also why it's "instruments" are basically the bare minimum needed to function: a basic camera, an altimeter and an accelerometer.
The lift issue is a problem that gets worse as you scale it up. The only advantages of the helicopter approach are 1) taking pictures from above (better done by a high-res satellite) and 2) it lets you travel marginally more quickly than our current incredibly-slow Earth-operated rovers. I think Ingenuity was impressive for demonstrating a completely new capability, but it's a dead end technology. Shovels are the future.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 18:20:28 UTC No. 16282661
>>16282655
You'd need to do the math for supporting a person in a rover vs beaming instructions to it from earth. If you go by precedent it ranges from $3mil/day to $15mil/hour. That instantaneous control would need to be worth a whole lot.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 18:27:50 UTC No. 16282668
>>16282645
>SpaceX is unique in the management structure.
>I guess the unique part is that those managers are also engineers
every engineering company should be like this, always.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 18:47:56 UTC No. 16282687
>>16282661
Counterpoint - how much money has nasa wasted on MSR?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 18:49:25 UTC No. 16282690
https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1812922
SF
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 18:59:58 UTC No. 16282703
>>16282690
doesn't have the wierd double thunk-thunk sounds in the end anymore
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 19:01:05 UTC No. 16282705
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 19:03:54 UTC No. 16282708
>>16282687
You could have a remotely driven rover deliver to an occupied base instead of a different planet and save a lot of money. I'm just expecting the time value of the astronauts to be too high to justify any surface operations that can be done remotely over a longer timeline. Even construction or earth moving equipment in the occupied base might be operated remotely most of the time. It also increases your machine time to 24.6 hours per day without each machine taking up the entire workday of three astronauts. It's just a realistic financial forcing function
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 19:05:44 UTC No. 16282711
>>16282668
>t. Never had a scientist or engineer turn into a manager
There's functionally no overlap between management and science/engineering. While they aren't mutually exclusive skills, one does not imply competence on the other. Granted, general management rarely commutes an understanding of scientific or engineering projects. The best managers of scientists in my experience are ones who started off in the sciences then did a full pivot in their career.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 19:07:00 UTC No. 16282712
>>16282703
Unrelated but are those gridfins really just driven by belts on the "Tesla derived" electric motors?
No wonder they shutter in flight
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 19:12:08 UTC No. 16282718
instead of space based solar power how about using something similar to shoot waste heat away?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 19:15:51 UTC No. 16282722
>>16282712
>are those gridfins really just driven by belts on the "Tesla derived" electric motors?
They do look like belts in that photo, but they are metal actuator arms.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 19:17:47 UTC No. 16282725
>>16282718
>ablative cooling the Earth
I'm pretty sure that would generate more heat than leaves. You'd just spin the mirrors around or put them on the ground if you wanted to go that route. If you wanted the actual cheapest option you'd just blast sulfur into the stratosphere
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 19:17:51 UTC No. 16282726
>>16282718
You mean a radiator?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 19:18:30 UTC No. 16282727
>>16282596
Market had a decade to adapt.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 19:21:08 UTC No. 16282730
>>16282727
I'm not, and he's not, suggesting that there is anything morally wrong with a deserving monopoly, which SpaceX certainly is. But a government agency has just grounded them which is a problem
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 19:47:49 UTC No. 16282753
>>16282722
IFT-4 @ T+6:15...6:32 you can see that actuator working
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 19:49:41 UTC No. 16282755
>>16282726
thats just passive radiation, im talking about a beam of heat being shot into the ether
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 19:49:45 UTC No. 16282756
Is shartliner still stuck in space?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:09:50 UTC No. 16282767
>>16282760
*Moona
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:15:53 UTC No. 16282769
>>16282760
>>16282767
It's Selene.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:15:59 UTC No. 16282771
>>16282708
That's all well and good until a remote rover breaks down miles away from the base, then the time wasted fixing the problem far outweighs the money saved.
Plus any astronaut worth their salt would tell you to piss off if you expected them to travel for over a year to mars then be a desk jockey instead of exploring themselves.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:20:19 UTC No. 16282778
>>16282642
>bioplastic
Anisotropic carbohydrate foam
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:20:56 UTC No. 16282780
>>16282769
seloona
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:21:22 UTC No. 16282781
>>16282730
Unless there's something seriously wrong (which seems incredible unlikely) I can't see them being grounded for longer than a month, stop worrying so much.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:21:33 UTC No. 16282782
>>16282756
Yeah, just like Ariane 6 2nd stage and Falcon 9 2nd stage
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:22:33 UTC No. 16282784
>>16282782
Didn't falcon 9's 2nd stage already come back down with the starlinks?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:26:58 UTC No. 16282786
>>16282760
Putting an early Moon base into a cave has
got to be the most stupid idea mission planners have ever come up with.
"Hello, yes, I'd like to build a Moon surface base please, but could I make it as inaccessible as possible? Also I'd love it if there were billions of tonnes of potentially unstable rock directly overhead, thanks!"
Just to protect astronauts from radiation and micrometeorites as effectively as several meters of dirt piled on top of a module. I think the cave idea is actually due to fear of digging on the Moon. Digging could lead to resource prospecting and mining, which could lead to industrial production, which could lead to colonization!
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:36:45 UTC No. 16282796
>>16282786
If they could prove the cave was stable then it could be useful, but building a base 135m (at best) under the surface is retarded.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:41:36 UTC No. 16282801
>>16282771
Repair would be a rare function that's either made cheaper or is otherwise impossible without a human present. An astronaut wouldn't do anything at a desk because it's cheaper to hire someone at a desk on Earth. Vehicle operation would be no different.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:43:51 UTC No. 16282803
They should just make starship single use since they can keep popping them out one after another
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:45:23 UTC No. 16282806
Poop in Starship toilet
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:45:32 UTC No. 16282807
>>16282122
JESUS that hair is greasy. I wash mine literally once a week and it never gets that bad.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:45:40 UTC No. 16282808
>>16282796
Use the rock pile to build caveman buildings.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:47:51 UTC No. 16282813
>>16282638
Can't they come up with a different name for their completely unrelated rocket families for once?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:52:41 UTC No. 16282819
>>16282813
It's a government rocket, they literally can't.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:56:42 UTC No. 16282822
>>16282819
Why not call them Chang or Dragon or something?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:00:05 UTC No. 16282824
>>16282813
Who wants to be the guy who tries to forward the idea that they have a better name than https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:07:05 UTC No. 16282833
>>16282822
>Why not call them Chang
That's how it's called in Chinese, Chang Zheng.
>>16282831
That's peanuts compared to money wasted on welfare.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:07:18 UTC No. 16282834
>>16282431
not as cool
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:11:21 UTC No. 16282839
>>16282813
The original DF-5 derived design got the "Chang Zheng" designation and the next thirteen rocket designs that China produced over the next fourty years were all direct modifications of that original pattern so they were just CZ-#A. It's a bit like if America had gotten into space launch with a design derived from the LGM-25C Titan II and then just kept upgrading and modifying that instead of looking at anything different so by the time we hit the EELV era all big government rockets are just called "Titans" as a matter of tradition.
>>16282822
China's commercial space sector is great for non-Long March names. Tianlong, Kinetica, Nebula, Kuaizhou, Ceres, Hyperbola, Zhuque, Gravity...
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:23:13 UTC No. 16282848
>>16282813
Other names don't have Heavenly Mandate of Glorious Communist Party.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:29:45 UTC No. 16282855
>>16282854
Good. Fuck the droneships those inefficient hunks of shit.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:36:20 UTC No. 16282860
>>16282431
what causes it to actuate on the new design?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:39:43 UTC No. 16282862
>>16282854
>1 launch every 10 days
That ain't happening for the next few years. The license modification they're currently applying for would allow them for 25 launches per year, which gives us 1 launch every 14,6 days.
Moreover, 8 hours for refurbishment and processing of Starship? That has to be a joke. At best, it's an aspirational goal of SpaceX, in reality it's going to take 2-4 months (or more) and get shorter as they acquire experience.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:42:53 UTC No. 16282864
>>16282862
They have experience though. F9 is down to like two days
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:44:36 UTC No. 16282866
>>16282864
Sir...
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:44:58 UTC No. 16282867
>>16282864
lol
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:49:12 UTC No. 16282873
>>16282862
What matters is the throughput of boosters, not how long it takes the same booster to fly twice. I still don’t think 8 hours is happening any time soon, but with several launchpads they can probably start doing nearly back to back launches by next year.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:49:33 UTC No. 16282874
>>16282864
F9 is down to 27 days with the same booster
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:54:25 UTC No. 16282880
>>16282521
that has been my exact dream job on mars. to explore and chart all those endless lands that werent touched by life in billions of year...
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:55:01 UTC No. 16282881
>>16282326
>the problem with majority oxygen atmosphere
You get urfers?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 21:55:46 UTC No. 16282883
>>16282760
You know what they say. If life gives you a vertical cave on another world, you tunnel an S bend at the bottom and start filling it with piss.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 22:03:14 UTC No. 16282889
>>16282854
The point of barges is to eek out some payload mass, with Starship's margins it's completely pointless because the time wasted and the boat maintenance is not worth the fuel savings. Maybe in the future we'll have massive payloads that require it
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 22:05:55 UTC No. 16282893
>>16282866
But... But Elon said two days recently
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 22:07:07 UTC No. 16282897
>>16282893
Two days to prep for launch, maybe.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 22:08:07 UTC No. 16282898
>>16282889
easier to just expend a booster in that case instead of building a whole droneship infrastructure
the massive payloads would have to be something that are very common and just high enough to need that extra payload, but not so high that expendable was the way to go
doesn't really make sense
payloads are designed for rockets
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 22:48:16 UTC No. 16282955
>>16282711
you know you can be a non-specialized engineer and hate the field, right? many people are like that. general engineering education would still be useful towards interpreting requirements from and to clients. managers these days are mostly a bunch of nepo retards, business retards and other brainlets that come from completely different careers.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 23:31:19 UTC No. 16282994
>>16282975
what does the chinkscript say
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 23:35:42 UTC No. 16282999
>>16282994
elon musk is next
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 23:39:20 UTC No. 16283004
>>16282994
>我爱北京天安门
>I love Tiananmen Square in Beijing
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 23:40:06 UTC No. 16283005
>>16282975
i wanna fuck both of them
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 23:40:12 UTC No. 16283006
>>16282994
wuzzap beijing
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 23:50:21 UTC No. 16283015
BO Blue Goon Lander
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 23:57:43 UTC No. 16283021
>>16282661
(AYRT)
My presumption is you have a manned Mars base anyway, so you're looking at the marginal cost of life support in a rover vs at a base, not the absolute cost. The choice would be between manned vs remotely operated surveyors, and there are definitely pros and cons for each.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 00:14:30 UTC No. 16283026
>>16283021
No one is doing surveys from earth with a half hour delay on every control input for sure. Aerial surveys aren't happening because of the weight of the equipment you need for a serious survey, ground penetrating radar, core drilling and sampling machines, analysis equipment, chem lab, etc... You basically need a manned rover if you want to get serious about mapping resources for extraction. The kind of stuff you could do with an aerial survey like terrain mapping can be done with SAR satellites.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 00:21:02 UTC No. 16283029
>>16283028
How is this saving any fuel
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 00:24:54 UTC No. 16283033
>>16283029
The launch is the hardest part, the fuel for the booster can come from other sources from space or mining operations on the moon.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 00:29:37 UTC No. 16283036
>>16283033
It's going to be a long time before methane and oxygen produced on the moon or from asteroids is cheaper than tanker starships.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 00:41:35 UTC No. 16283041
https://europeanspaceflight.com/the
>The initial hop tests of the ArianeGroup-developed, ESA-funded Themis reusable booster demonstrator have slipped once again. The first is now expected no earlier than 2025.
>In a May 2024 presentation given at the International Civil Aviation Organization offices in Paris, the Swedish Space Corporation (SSC) announced that initial Themis hop tests would only begin next year. SSC is in charge of the operation of Esrange Space Centre in Sweden, where these initial tests of an integrated Themis demonstrator will begin. Once ArianeGroup moves onto higher altitude flights, the testing will be moved to the Guiana Space Centre.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 00:51:24 UTC No. 16283045
>>16282431
How does it hold down/let go without moving back?
Captcha: R0G4S
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:03:39 UTC No. 16283052
>>16283036
This is reminding me that I wanted to look into the economics of atmo-scoop LOX vs tanker launches.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:07:47 UTC No. 16283054
>>16283026
>No one is doing surveys from earth with a half hour delay on every control input for sure
This is literally the only thing happening right now.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:09:47 UTC No. 16283055
>>16283033
>resources anywhere but Earth
Why is /sfg/ so fucking stupid? We have this argument every week
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:13:37 UTC No. 16283059
>>16283041
Aaaaah why
Is ArianeGroup management intentionally slowing them down or what? They were actually really quick with the initial tank tests, kind of feels like they should've been able to hop a long time ago even at Yuro speeds.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:13:48 UTC No. 16283060
>>16283054
Those aren't real surveys mate. Those rovers cover a mere handful of kilometres in their lifetime because they cant risk their bajillion dollar toy car getting stuck on a rock. They dynamically model a replica rover in a sandpit back here for fucks sake. We still know basically nothing about Mars because of this.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:14:18 UTC No. 16283061
>>16283041
>european spaceflight is double oldspace
I for one am shocked.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:17:23 UTC No. 16283065
>>16283055
shh
don't tell them how much refinery equipment weighs
but especially don't tell them how important rapid passivation via oxide layer formation is to most manufacturing, because i want to laugh when every single metal bearing they try to make via ISRU rapidly contact welds itself during operation
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:24:10 UTC No. 16283070
>>16283065
I don't think they will be manufacturing anything in a vacuum.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:33:54 UTC No. 16283073
>>16283064
Elon better actually get some deregulation in return for all the Republican cocksucking he's doing because otherwise he's just gonna look kinda gay without anything to show for it
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:34:26 UTC No. 16283074
>>16283073
lol
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:37:32 UTC No. 16283076
>>16283064
Does Trump's platform even have any space stuff
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:40:41 UTC No. 16283077
>>16283064
zoobrin thrashing his home office in demented rage
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:41:23 UTC No. 16283078
>>16283076
just the environmentalism and get out of the wayism for federal agencies as official policy
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:41:41 UTC No. 16283079
>>16283076
Apparently, he's the reason why Artemis was originally targeting 2024 so I'd imagine that he would pressure NASA to beat China to the moon.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:46:39 UTC No. 16283082
>>16283064
If its actually true, I'm happy to see Elon actually throwing his metaphorical weight around. He could stand to drop some of the literal weight still.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:48:17 UTC No. 16283083
>>16283065
Oh no, you might have to blast some parts with the oxygen hose
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:49:17 UTC No. 16283084
China presented new dates for the next plobes
Tianwen 2: asteroid sample return, launch 2025
Tianwen 3: Mars sample return, launch 2028
Tianwen 4: Jupiter/Uranus mission, launch 2029
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:50:09 UTC No. 16283085
>>16283084
>Mars sample return
Imagine they go and pick up some of the American sample tubes KEK
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:53:28 UTC No. 16283086
>>16283064
Tesla stock increased like 30% overnight btw
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:53:54 UTC No. 16283087
>>16283084
Tianwen 4 will be 2 plobes in 1, the main one will reach jupiter in 2035, while its "sub-plobe" will get to uranus in 2045
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:56:53 UTC No. 16283088
>>16283060
All caused by the mass constraint, not how it's controlled.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 01:57:22 UTC No. 16283089
>>16283083
you can actually treat the surface with different materials and get different effects, it doesn't need to be an oxide passive layer
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 02:15:30 UTC No. 16283096
>>16283095
or maybe he was alluding to the shartliner debacle
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 02:17:32 UTC No. 16283098
>>16283076
from the actual platform:
>Expanding Freedom, Prosperity and Safety in Space
>Under Republican Leadership, the United States will create a robust Manufacturing Industry in Near Earth Orbit, send American Astronauts back to the Moon, and onward to Mars, and enhance partnerships with the rapidly expanding Commercial Space sector to revolutionize our ability to access, live in, and develop assets in Space.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 02:17:54 UTC No. 16283099
>>16282975
>>16283005
Reminder the statue of liberty was supposed to have visible nipples and they took it from you
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 02:28:44 UTC No. 16283105
>>16283064
Thank you Mr. Musk
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 02:31:41 UTC No. 16283106
>>16283064
Has Elon been reading the threads wtf
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 02:43:08 UTC No. 16283112
>>16283064
He almost assuredly is not going to do this. Elon always says this shit, and never does it. Think about all of the public promises of money he's made over just the last few years alone, and then he welched on pretty much all of them. The man will not spend money on shit unless he is certain he will own what he is spending said money on. That and legal battles are about the only two places where Elon frivolously burns cash.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 02:43:53 UTC No. 16283113
>>16282599
The NRO should send a few old spooky sats to mars in star ship so we can
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 02:50:42 UTC No. 16283116
>>16283113
This has actually been considered. The Roman Space Telescope was one of two uncompleted KH-11s that was signed over to NASA. No decision has been made about what to do with the other one, but absurdly detailed Mars mapping has come up in discussions.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 02:52:21 UTC No. 16283117
>>16283064
why doesn't he spend that money on starship instead???
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 02:53:55 UTC No. 16283119
>>16283117
Because the beauracray delays are costing far more than the bribe money. Starship is probably 12-18 months behind where it should be.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 03:08:02 UTC No. 16283122
>>16283119
bureaucracy delays have been a few months at most and a lot of that could've been avoided by starting processes earlier and not being a retard
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 03:34:00 UTC No. 16283133
>>16282612
Good find anon
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 03:50:13 UTC No. 16283137
>>16283113
>>16283116
Wonder if a MEV could bring a Kh-11 back online?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 04:22:13 UTC No. 16283156
>>16283122
>I go to 4chan.org in order to defend federal regulatory agencies from criticism
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 04:44:19 UTC No. 16283167
>>16282248
TDD
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 04:48:12 UTC No. 16283170
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 05:38:19 UTC No. 16283196
>>16283122
Kys
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 06:01:58 UTC No. 16283209
>>16283116
>Using a KH-11 to photograph Mars
Awesome if they can get it there
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 06:09:41 UTC No. 16283216
>>16283122
Gerstenmaier said to the senate subcommittee on space last year that FAA/regulators were slowing them down and helping China
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 06:43:53 UTC No. 16283243
>>16283234
Any anomaly at all requires an investigation, since the FAA treats spacecraft the same as it does aircraft
I wonder if the NTSB will get involved if something ever happens on a Dragon
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 06:49:32 UTC No. 16283245
(you) suddenly find yourself in possession of $500m tax free dollars. What space problem are you solving?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 06:55:01 UTC No. 16283248
>>16283245
I'm building a comm sat, putting it in Mars orbit, and charging people to use it
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 06:59:59 UTC No. 16283250
>>16283243
NTSB through a hissy fit wanting to slow down another FAA spaceflight investigation
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 07:09:40 UTC No. 16283253
i just ate a bowl of hot shit
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 07:11:04 UTC No. 16283254
https://mainenginecutoff.com/podcas
New episode today
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 07:14:11 UTC No. 16283255
Are we really not getting a starliner update this month?????
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 07:21:28 UTC No. 16283259
>>16283254
redwire is painfully boring
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 07:47:46 UTC No. 16283270
>>16283255
Everything is under control and they are definitely not stranded. It's also funny because of Falcon 9s grounding they would have to call fucking putin to rescue them KEK imagine the humiliation.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 08:31:03 UTC No. 16283296
>>16283270
I fucking hope that happens. That would be the perfect ammo for Musk to use against the FAA.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 09:19:44 UTC No. 16283322
>>16283137
The real reason why Jared's Hubble rescue mission got shot down
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 09:25:28 UTC No. 16283325
>>16282157
>>16282178
What if we remove the government?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 10:05:18 UTC No. 16283348
>>16283325
You can't.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 10:08:18 UTC No. 16283354
>>16282311
It is what it is.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 10:15:20 UTC No. 16283361
>>16283325
High risk investment for very low chance reward. Best to keep carrying on and growing then hoping you can use your position to salvage something from the fiat currency collapse ashes.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 10:26:13 UTC No. 16283371
>>16283325
seasteading brother we're bringing the meme back
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 10:38:05 UTC No. 16283379
>>16282839
Yeah but Titan sounds cool.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 10:47:26 UTC No. 16283381
>>16283377
Look at that retarded boomek
Truly the worst generation
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 11:13:03 UTC No. 16283397
>>16283209
Doest help MEV is made by Northrup Grumman not OEM Lockheed
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 11:14:07 UTC No. 16283398
>>16283377
>But what about the alleged schrodingers microbes that we can spend a century or more demanding ever intensive searches and deeper drilling programs to prove that they don't exist before we can relax planetary protection rules?
>Heh checkmate muskrats
Unironically my biggest fear and why asteroids may be a better choice despite the disadvantages compared to Mars.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 11:16:03 UTC No. 16283399
>>16283381
>>16283250
Why do people like this exist?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 11:25:27 UTC No. 16283404
>>16283381
I kind of have a soft spot for shintoism/animism/whatever you want to call it too. Didn't stop japo man clearing out any potential resource spots in the land of the rising sun. Just got to make sure you aren't mining from some very obviously prominent or unique geological feature. With any luck the kami will strike this faggot down for being an affront to their worshippers.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 12:03:29 UTC No. 16283414
>>16283122
Anon stop making sense, nobody understands it here.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 12:20:34 UTC No. 16283424
>>16283422
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJ
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 12:22:19 UTC No. 16283426
>>16283073
The VP is a big Silicon Valley VC guy. He's one of Peter Thiel's protoge. Thiel and Musk go way back to Paypal/X days. The funding it towards an "American PAC" led by Palintir. The CEO of Palintir has defended Musk publicly on TV from trashy woke accusations. They also have some ties to SpaceX as well. So its all good ticket.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 12:25:12 UTC No. 16283428
>>16283073
I have a sneaking suspicion that this isn't about getting deregulations but rather getting republicans on board with electric cars.
Leftists already will get EVs to save the planet but rightists need convincing and the CEO becoming a right wing culture warrior might sway many of them.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 12:48:00 UTC No. 16283447
>>16283414
Reddit comment.
>>16283122
>a few months at most
They once stopped launches for three months deciding whether or not they can make a decision. This is the same organization that let the 737 max fly. There's no defense
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 12:51:41 UTC No. 16283451
>>16283428
its both and more
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 13:28:28 UTC No. 16283471
>>16283428
The American "left" is the one currently hating EVs ATM, it's why BYD is under 100% tarrifs. No one in the US has any principles regarding EVs. They don't care about adoption, they don't care about prices, infastructure is a joke and they aren't willing to help the one company that actually has anything resembling an EV supply chain.
EVs in the US are just a boondoggle for legacy automakers, they rather not or at the very least just see opportunities for more money, either in selling overpriced smartphones on wheels or asking for bailouts.
Unless the Elon money is really good I don't see things changing in the US.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 13:32:03 UTC No. 16283473
You space freaks are the bane of humanity. You should stop making this gey thread. You can't even populate Mars, it's impossible with your level of thinking and tech. Try the Moon or Pluto.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 13:38:16 UTC No. 16283478
>>16283471
>Unless the Elon money is really good
Tesla has 3 times the net income of Ford and about 50% more than GM. In fact Tesla makes slightly more than both combined. The elon money is indeed really good.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 13:44:29 UTC No. 16283486
>>16283478
Kiss my cheek
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 14:00:12 UTC No. 16283501
idgaf about the environment in mars but I worry about astronauts carrying potentially dangerous microbes from mars back to earth. I hope they manage to survey the whole planet for life with robots.
I mean, remember when >we thought there was no water in mars, and then suddenly discovered that there is water there? that was only a few years ago...
>>16283473
>Pluto
how would you populate pluto? you'd need a source of constant energy, otherwise you'd freeze to death in, like, 2 seconds
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 14:03:29 UTC No. 16283503
>>16283501
>how would you populate pluto?
2 ways, obvious one is nuclear but a less obvious option is burning fuel present there. Pluto is so cold oxygen and methane freezes. You could mine solid blocks of those and burn them to make energy.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 14:05:10 UTC No. 16283504
I also said moon. Come onnnn freaks stop digging humanity's grave.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 14:09:26 UTC No. 16283507
>>16283501
>I worry about astronauts carrying potentially dangerous microbes from mars back to earth
Just quarantine the astronauts in a trailer for 2 weeks like they did for apollo.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 14:19:02 UTC No. 16283514
>>16283504
B*rkun schizo
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 14:33:04 UTC No. 16283524
>>16283501
Colonize mars and than quarantine Earth once Mars reach a certain population. Illegal aliens from Earth should be banned so that stability of mars colony isnt jeopardized
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 14:34:51 UTC No. 16283527
>>16283524
merit based immigration policy
wagmi
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 14:36:39 UTC No. 16283531
>>16283527
You need both merit based (productivity) and needs based (compassion). People will want to escape earth and want to seek freedom from slavery on Earth.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 14:43:23 UTC No. 16283538
>>16281941
intergalactic communication sisters.... chat gpt says its over.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 14:43:56 UTC No. 16283541
>>16283537
the colored ports are somehow very kino
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 14:46:37 UTC No. 16283546
>>16283542
Cool
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 14:47:26 UTC No. 16283549
>>16283424
the basic tower structure is probably going to be built very quickly, but idk about the OLM and steel plate or flame trench
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 14:48:03 UTC No. 16283550
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1MnxnDRo
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 14:48:05 UTC No. 16283551
>>16283538
>intergalactic communication is currently impossible for a species that only occupies a single planet
Wow, that's crazy.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 14:48:52 UTC No. 16283552
>>16283542
That’s insane
>>16283549
Do they need an olm to attempt a catch from that tower? My gut says no.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 14:50:54 UTC No. 16283555
>>16283471
EVs are an economic inevitability, the government just needs to get out of the way
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 14:52:18 UTC No. 16283556
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 15:05:12 UTC No. 16283564
>>16283501
>dangerous microbes from mars
For a variety of reasons, anything that did manage to evolve on Mars would be hopelessly outmatched by Earth microbes, including an immune system
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 15:08:11 UTC No. 16283567
>>16283552
That tower isn't going to be nearly ready for IFT-5, even just for catching. They are going to risk the old junk OLM and tower first.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 15:09:18 UTC No. 16283569
>>16283471
You wrote all that, but you had to abbreviate 'at the moment'. Man, redditers are so fucking stupid
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 15:14:47 UTC No. 16283575
>>16283556
I want to fuck her so badly.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 15:20:24 UTC No. 16283581
>>16283538
chatgpt is so smart. did you just find out about it?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 15:28:14 UTC No. 16283592
>>16283575
She's all yours bud. I wanna fug jessie
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 15:36:02 UTC No. 16283604
>>16283471
BYD is under tarrifs because we remember what happened to the solar industry when China was allowed to flood it with below manufacturing cost product.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 15:38:03 UTC No. 16283606
https://x.com/SausseImages/status/1
>The core stage has done something resembling a three point turn and is on its way to get loaded on the Pegasus barge.
Artemis II has left the factory
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 15:48:38 UTC No. 16283609
>>16283604
>because we remember what happened to the solar industry when China was allowed to flood it with below manufacturing cost product.
People got more solar panels and western companies threw a hissy fit?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 15:53:27 UTC No. 16283613
>>16283606
What in God's name could two hundred people be doing there
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 15:55:58 UTC No. 16283615
>>16283613
getting paid.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 15:56:45 UTC No. 16283617
>>16283609
China heavily subsidized its solar industry in an effort to destroy competition, Europe is being Europe and allowing China to do the same to their auto industry
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 15:56:46 UTC No. 16283618
>>16283609
Are you mentally challenged? We are not dealing with some European country here who could be reasonably expected to continue trade and not use it as a lever, but the fucking CCP. A sworn adversary.
I'll put it this way so you can get it Chang. Why does China not dissolve all of its rocket companies if they can buy launches cheaper from SpaceX?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 15:58:44 UTC No. 16283619
>>16283609
Yeah. The right option for the US would've been to subsidize solar as much as China was, but they didn't. Same for EVs. Now they're just blocking. I don't know why our government is so incapable of progress, and failing that, at least getting out of the way.
>>16283615
For what?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 15:58:49 UTC No. 16283620
>>16283604
>below manufacturing cost product.
Amerilards still can't believe the chinese can make things in china cheaper than americans can make things in america.
You should take the words of chinas space chief to heart and humbly learn from competitors rather than putting your thumb on the scale.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:02:41 UTC No. 16283624
>>16283619
>For what?
For their contributions the human spaceflight, the artemis program, and the sls rocket. Can’t you see the work they’re putting in in that picture?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:04:41 UTC No. 16283626
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:05:03 UTC No. 16283628
>>16283615
>>16283619
looks like they're scanning each others QR code paddels
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:06:01 UTC No. 16283631
>>16283620
Yes China can make things cheaper due to their wage slave labor and disregard for environmental protection, but that is a seperate issue than them dumping product below their manufacturing costs.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:07:42 UTC No. 16283634
>>16283613
>>16283628
Is it some sort of weird community day?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:09:02 UTC No. 16283636
Reminder, Trump presidency = deregulation of business and space industry. Which = more launches, more rocket building, etc
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:12:00 UTC No. 16283640
>>16283636
When SpaceX launched without FAA approval that one time, trump said "good for him."
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:12:04 UTC No. 16283641
>>16283631
I'd like to see even a shred of evidence BYD loses money on their cars.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:14:22 UTC No. 16283648
>>16283641
Why would a company lose money when backed by a state? We aren't talking about the free market here. There is a state interest in exporting the cheapest cars
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:16:15 UTC No. 16283650
>>16283631
Its not wage slave labor, the expenses in Chinese factory is pretty high now. The BYD operates at a slim profit margin right now and is instead trying to grow their business. Most of the cost reduction is due to automation.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:16:41 UTC No. 16283651
>>16283648
So in less words you have no evidence?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:18:49 UTC No. 16283654
>>16283651
https://www.ifw-kiel.de/publication
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:21:02 UTC No. 16283656
>>16283654
This does not show BYD sell cars at a loss anymore than american EV subsidies show tesla sells cars at a loss.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:21:44 UTC No. 16283659
>>16283604
>BYD is under tarrifs because we remember what happened to the solar industry
bullshit, they are under tariffs because they are chinese and are growing really fucking fast. same for huawei.
the american ruling classes don't like competition, period.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:22:04 UTC No. 16283660
>>16283137
the reason they fail is that they run out of propellant and burn up IIRC
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:23:42 UTC No. 16283665
>>16283620
Literally half the cost is subsidized by the CCP.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:24:03 UTC No. 16283666
If Sauron was posting on 4chan:
> my red eye hurts so bad
> i need a dump truck of visine
> then crazy midgets steal my fav bling
> to throw it in a volcano
> mfw
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:24:57 UTC No. 16283669
>>16283631
I find this shit really funny. AMERICA made china the worlds factory. the whole world benefited from the cheap slave labor, and then, one day, suddenly americans conveniently realize that and somehow china becomes bad... just when they are about to surpass you.
anglos are all a bunch of brainwashed hypocrites.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:29:53 UTC No. 16283676
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:32:51 UTC No. 16283680
>>16283645
>tfw a cloudfront just moved over the sun
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:50:10 UTC No. 16283703
>>16283682
What’s this from?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:50:49 UTC No. 16283705
>>16283654
>Direct subsidies amounted to approximately EUR 220 million in 2020, rising to EUR 2.1 billion in 2022
>In terms of business revenues, direct subsidies increased from 1.1 percent in 2020 to 3.5 percent in 2022.
let's compare to tesla:
https://www.latimes.com/business/la
>Tesla Motors Inc., SolarCity Corp. and Space Exploration Technologies Corp., known as SpaceX, together have benefited from an estimated $4.9 billion in government support
>The figure compiled by The Times comprises a variety of government incentives, including grants, tax breaks, factory construction, discounted loans and environmental credits that Tesla can sell. It also includes tax credits and rebates to buyers of solar panels and electric cars.
and this article is dated
>May 30, 2015
from https://qz.com/elon-musks-spacex-an
>Published April 13, 2023
>SpaceX is, after all, primarily a government contractor, racking up $15.3 billion in awarded contracts since 2003, according to US government records.
>[Tesla] received a $465 million preferential loan from the US Department of Energy in 2010, which it paid off in 2013.
>Through 2020, the company benefited significantly from tax credits given to consumers who buy electric cars, which have reduced the cost of Tesla vehicles by $4,000 to $7,500. One attempt to track all these subsidies, including state and local incentives to support manufacturing facilities, estimates the total benefits at nearly $3 billion.
>BYD receives significantly more purchase premiums for electric cars in China compared to other domestic manufacturers like GAC or foreign companies producing locally, such as Tesla or VW's joint ventures.
>purchase premiums... in China... compared to... foreign companies producing locally
WOW!
>BYD benefits from subsidies to battery producers
BYD *IS* a battery producer
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:51:18 UTC No. 16283706
>>16283665
Thats quite in contradiction to the source the other anon posted which shows BYD cars are only subsidized by 3.5%.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:53:33 UTC No. 16283713
>>16283708
>each of those engines cost more to refurbish than the cost of an entire Starship
I fucking hate this orange shit with every fiber of my being
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:57:02 UTC No. 16283718
Spaceflight?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 16:57:53 UTC No. 16283719
>>16283713
Like Vulcan and Ariane 6 it's a creature intended for another time. Twenty years ago it could have been something important.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:05:44 UTC No. 16283727
>>16283676
Was referring to the regulatory busy bodies at NSTB.
Like who wakes up an think I'm going to make travel unaffordable for the masses?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:07:41 UTC No. 16283729
>>16283703
https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:11:41 UTC No. 16283734
>>16283682
>>16283729
This contract would have cost 5-10 billion if not for SpaceX
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:13:27 UTC No. 16283737
>>16283243
yeah but the FAA doesn't ground aircraft for every anomaly
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:13:28 UTC No. 16283738
>>16283729
>The contract, with a total value of $843,256,689.85
How do they even come up with such a number?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:16:56 UTC No. 16283741
>>16283737
They really should, maybe boeing would've killed less people if they did.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:17:30 UTC No. 16283743
>>16283738
>>16283729
>>16283682
Source doc
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:18:16 UTC No. 16283744
>>16283729
>>16283734
Thanks. Thought this was about HLS but still neat
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:19:26 UTC No. 16283747
>>16283738
>85¢
NASA determined that Elon may drink 1(one) diet coke during the deorbit. It took a team of 8 engineers with 34 managers around 6 months to come up with the 85¢ figure
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:22:09 UTC No. 16283750
>>16282245
they literally can't
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:32:01 UTC No. 16283760
>>16283729
Is the deorbit vehicle going to be a dragon or a starship?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:32:58 UTC No. 16283762
>>16283760
Dragon XL
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:34:06 UTC No. 16283766
>>16283762
launch on FH extended fairing, fully expended
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:34:30 UTC No. 16283767
>starship bumps into ISS
>it deorbits
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:37:41 UTC No. 16283771
>>16283665
And that's some how bad?
>oh no Americans get super cheap solar to become more energy independent
>best ban them
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:40:33 UTC No. 16283772
>>16283641
BYD doesn't lose money because they are subsidized by the Chinese government, that is why they are able to export their shitboxes for such low prices
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:41:40 UTC No. 16283774
>>16283771
>dependent on foreign manufacturing
>independent
anon I have questions
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:41:53 UTC No. 16283776
>>16283729
>higher than 680 million
We pay taxes, they work for us, and they won't tell us the bid?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:48:18 UTC No. 16283784
>>16283772
You guys have yet to provide a shred of evidence of this.
The only source posted shows a tiny subsidy of 3.5%, not even close to enough to make BYD cars as expensive as Teslas.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:49:07 UTC No. 16283786
>>16283705
>BYD isn't predatorily subsidized by the Chinese government because...the US government offers tax inventives to purchase EV
What amazing logic.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:53:03 UTC No. 16283790
>>16283234
Only Starlinks are fully demisable I think, at least proven to be so.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:54:53 UTC No. 16283791
>>16283784
The citation above explicitly states the 3.5% is not all the subsidies BYD recieves.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:56:05 UTC No. 16283794
>>16283786
>noo tax cuts are NOT subsidies
What amazing logic.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 17:59:51 UTC No. 16283800
>>16283774
Solar panels aren't complex you could spin up a factory in a few years and that entire time Americans could millions, same goes for EVs.
And most important of all neither of those are strategic resources or products.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 18:01:29 UTC No. 16283801
>>16283791
You should read it again, it says the other subsidies are consumer side, which people outside china don't get, and batteries which just makes an input slightly cheaper and probably doesn't go above the subsidy for BYD. Even if you say the subsidized batteries double the functional subsidy on BYDs then thats still only 7%, BYDs are still a lot more than 7% cheaper than Teslas.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 18:07:41 UTC No. 16283813
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 18:09:19 UTC No. 16283816
>>16283776
They would have told if they won
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 18:10:11 UTC No. 16283819
>>16283813
the inside looks way too dusty
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 18:25:36 UTC No. 16283842
>SpaceX submitted a public safety determination request to the FAA on July 15. If approved, it would allow SpaceX to resume Falcon 9 launches while the SpaceX-led investigation continues regarding the upper stage anomaly that occurred during the Starlink 9-3 mission.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 18:36:19 UTC No. 16283857
>>16283842
Easy enough. I knew this would be done before end of July. Polaris is back on fellas
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 18:36:30 UTC No. 16283858
Is Starship the first vehicle to survive reentry without a backshell? Like Dragon and Orion and Shuttle all have TPS outside the heatshield on the back of the craft
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 18:38:58 UTC No. 16283862
>>16283819
I'm going to land my starship in that dusty hole, if you catch my drift.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 18:40:07 UTC No. 16283867
>>16283862
You should be thrown in an icy Titan river
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 18:41:41 UTC No. 16283869
>Payload bay in V.2 starship smaller by 2 rings to make way for 300 more tonnes of prop.
Huh...
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 18:41:44 UTC No. 16283870
>>16283858
it's the first to use hot structure backshell
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 18:42:00 UTC No. 16283871
>>16283867
You will never be SSTO.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 18:43:16 UTC No. 16283874
>>16283871
I dont want to be you subhuman
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 18:44:17 UTC No. 16283876
>>16283869
Its being extended too you worthless rat
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 18:44:51 UTC No. 16283877
>>16283876
There's no sign of an extended payload fairing yet.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 18:45:43 UTC No. 16283879
>>16283813
oh fuck yeah that looks like a great place to build a rotor city
>>16283877
no shit, first things first
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 18:56:03 UTC No. 16283891
Events to look out for in the next few weeks:
>Rolling the booster back to the Build Site for final setup and adding Hotstage Ring.
>Bringing booster back to the launch site and onto the launch mount.
>Painting the launch mount
>Stacking Starship on Booster.
>Full Wet Dress Rehearsal where they fuel both stages.
>Destack to install Flight Termination System (self destruct button). (5 days before launch)
>Final stack.
we just entered the first item on the list
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcC
we're ~3 weeks away from launch
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 18:57:01 UTC No. 16283895
>>16283891
>just 1.5 two weeks away
I'm so stoked
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:01:36 UTC No. 16283903
>>16283891
That lines up with elon’s timeline. impressive, he’s not usually good at those.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:26:09 UTC No. 16283926
>>16283743
Christ how much did the Northrup Grumman solution cost!
One benefit of SpaceX lowballing the bid is now congress can claim its to expensive to dispose of the ISS to keep the pork flowing.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:27:33 UTC No. 16283928
>>16283923
probably just the senior staff and such. aint no way they're moving all their operations to starbase. spacex in los angeles is a large facility with a ton of talented employees. you just aint getting them to move and there's not enough talent in the rio grande valley.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:27:47 UTC No. 16283929
>>16283923
Hell yeah.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:29:24 UTC No. 16283932
>>16283926
>eight hundred million dollars for a clamp and a rocket engine
>lowballing
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:37:05 UTC No. 16283938
>>16283923
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18132
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:37:54 UTC No. 16283939
>>16283926
SpaceX's proposal is based off of a lot of preexisting hardware that they already build in-house. NG's proposal would have been subcontracted out the ass and based around new designs and new gear that would have had to go through an extended testing and qualification campaign. That's where the price difference comes from.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:38:34 UTC No. 16283941
>>16283923
>tesla is next
tesla already moved to austin awhile ago. neuralink and xitter will probably move to austin though.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:39:02 UTC No. 16283942
>>16283928
The ones that don't move are insufficiently dedicated to the cause. And where SpaceX goes, talent will appear. They're able to demand, and receive, the best of the best from anywhere in the US.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:39:20 UTC No. 16283943
>>16283928
HQ means the admins, manufacturing won't probably move (yet)
Tesla still has a engineering HQ and multiple factories in California even after moving the headquarter to texas
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:40:21 UTC No. 16283945
>>16283941
neuralink already has operations in austin
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:41:14 UTC No. 16283947
>>16283923
What's the law? I wasn't paying attention.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:41:21 UTC No. 16283948
>>16283923
He announced X will move in the next tweet
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:42:51 UTC No. 16283953
>more white flight from commieforna to texas.
Callifornia needs another good all sumer long riot with rooftop koreans, that will fix things.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:43:39 UTC No. 16283955
>>16283949
neuralink announcement in 5...4...3...2..
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:44:48 UTC No. 16283958
wouldnt it make more sense for spacex hq to be located in houston instead of starbase?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:45:53 UTC No. 16283959
>>16283947
>schools start trooning out kids and hiding it from their parents
>normal people go "wtf that's evil"
>towns and states start passing laws against said evil
Newsom just signed a law banning those local laws in California. The net effect will be more irreversibly mutilated children. This is a very personal issue for Elon.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:46:45 UTC No. 16283965
>>16283949
>>16283940
>>16283938
inb4 POLITICS ISNT SPACEFLIGHT RELATED
SpaceX move to Texas was in the works due to the shitty politics of california.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:47:07 UTC No. 16283966
>>16283928
>400k square feet
It's genuinely not that big
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:47:20 UTC No. 16283968
>>16283958
No. Keeping management next to the factory is something smart companies do. Even Boeing did that when they were competent. Xeeter is going to Austin because it's set up for large techbro companies.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:51:01 UTC No. 16283975
>>16283958
Nah. There's still a port nearby, and it keeps all of SpaceX close together.
If they move the Falcon production line, I wonder if they'll start shipping those to the Cape by boat rather than driving them down I-10.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:52:04 UTC No. 16283978
>>16283975
Falcon 9 Block 6, 1m bigger in diameter because they don't have to fit them on a truck anymore
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:52:58 UTC No. 16283980
>>16283965
California taking the L one after another. Now all of Musk's companies are out of California.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 19:56:31 UTC No. 16283984
>>16283965
>POLITICS ISNT SPACEFLIGHT RELATED
i hate this since spaceflight has been political since inception. so much of the industry is at the whims of politicians, governments, and geopolitical strategy.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:00:51 UTC No. 16283990
>>16283966
Moving to a new location is probably needed anyway. I remember hearing somewhere that Elon was planning to have another increased Falcon 9 flight rate goal for 2025, but the Hawthorne facility is the original Falcon 9 plant from back in the early 2010s when they were talking about launching ~40 expendable vehicles per year. Even if all they're doing these days in building MVacs and 2nd stages getting 200 launches out of something living in the shell of the old set up might just not be possible.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:03:32 UTC No. 16283993
>>16283990
and if he needs quick access to his plane, BRO has plenty of room
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:10:31 UTC No. 16283998
>>16283941
>Austin becomes even gayer
Great. You do know they have things like drag queen story hour for kids there as well
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:12:16 UTC No. 16284000
>>16283998
Elon fired 90% of the twitter employees. Whats left are those that want to work on something
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:12:41 UTC No. 16284001
>>16283928
it says headquarters in the tweet and in the post you replied to
please read carefully
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:16:05 UTC No. 16284008
>>16283949
isn't Austin just the San Francisco [derogatory] of Texas?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:17:50 UTC No. 16284012
>>16283984
ironically with Elon spaceflight is the *LEAST* political it has ever been, outside of hobby projects
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:18:36 UTC No. 16284013
>>16284008
"of Texas" is highly load bearing because most of the SF nonsense is passed through Sacramento (because the Bay is multiple cities+counties)
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:19:48 UTC No. 16284016
>>16284008
SF is 11/10 in terms of leftism. It leads the charge.
Austin is 7/10
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:23:05 UTC No. 16284021
what do i do if i really wanna study space related stuff and work in aerospace but im insanely bad at math.. i can comprehend most of the stuff in physics but my brain starts frying the second i see any math or calculations. im thinking about majoring in tech management but idk im really struggling with making a choice. should i struggle my way into stem?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:23:44 UTC No. 16284023
>>16283938
How will this impact falcon’s return to flight?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:24:34 UTC No. 16284025
>>16284023
FAA may issue retaliatory ban on F9 since its headquartered in commiefornia
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:28:40 UTC No. 16284033
>>16284021
Are you a POC, if so, just go for a DEI hire.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:30:58 UTC No. 16284035
>>16284016
With all the tech companies moving there it will culturally be SF in 10 years then physically in another 5 with all the drugs and homeless.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:31:17 UTC No. 16284037
>>16284033
Companies are now throwing away the DEI mandates because they see the pendulum swinging back
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:32:44 UTC No. 16284040
>>16284035
They have a 10 year buffer. Thats better than -1 year buffer.
Also Tech companies will instead hire people locally for 90% of the stuff. Just like they did at Starbase. Local talents will prop up the companies while outsourcing few talents from other states.
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:40:03 UTC No. 16284051
>the tranny is becoming a regular host of nsf videos
he's a smart talented guy but his face makes me want to scream
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:40:28 UTC No. 16284053
Won't be surprised if Elon runs for governor of Texas after Abbott retires.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:51:34 UTC No. 16284065
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:52:28 UTC No. 16284068
>>16284053
he's too important to waste time in politics
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:56:40 UTC No. 16284072
https://x.com/DutchSatellites/statu
Hit piece coming again
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 20:58:36 UTC No. 16284076
>>16284072
her entire grift is writing spacex hit pieces, what an annoying insufferable person. reminds me of those obsessed fangirls who write hateful comments all day about celebs that they dont like.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 21:21:30 UTC No. 16284101
>>16284094
spacex is incorporated in texas too I think, neuralink has a facility there, tesla is building a lithium refinery there, the boring company has a factory on the other side of the spacex starlink factory so not just tunnels
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 21:27:10 UTC No. 16284111
>>16284065
Lol I looked at this for about 10 seconds before seeing it and I lol'd
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 21:28:33 UTC No. 16284113
Scottmanley cant help but show his Musk derangement syndrome again lol
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 21:31:48 UTC No. 16284122
Did you guys see that twitter post??
Crazy stuff...
Thoughts?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 21:34:30 UTC No. 16284126
>>16284122
Space news happens. Not my fault if you have a personal issue with space news discussions
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 21:35:58 UTC No. 16284127
>>16284068
that will be his retirement, when he's too fat to walk around his factories
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 21:37:41 UTC No. 16284129
>>16284053
Nah, he's going to Mars by then
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 21:38:20 UTC No. 16284130
>>16284065
imagine getting stuck upside down à la Nutty Putty in a cave on the Moon. A fear future Lunar speleologists will have to deal with.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 21:39:40 UTC No. 16284132
>https://old.reddit.com/r/spacex/co
when did the official subreddit become so hostile towards elon?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 21:41:21 UTC No. 16284135
>>16284132
>reddit leftoid trannies
There's your answer. Also its cause mods not banning crossboard posters.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 21:41:45 UTC No. 16284136
>>16283923
CPS is going to take away Elon's kids
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 21:42:26 UTC No. 16284137
>>16284065
Kek
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 21:45:53 UTC No. 16284141
>>16284132
>>16284135
Also only people that still use the reddit tranny site are leftoid trannies
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 21:51:44 UTC No. 16284146
>>16284113
https://x.com/DJSnM/status/18133191
lel, he is right to some extent though, not everyone will want to move
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 21:52:02 UTC No. 16284147
>>16283949
>Im tired of lib-induced druggies on the street…
>…so we’re moving to Austin
Uhhhh is Musk possibly retarded?? Don’t come here
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 21:53:26 UTC No. 16284149
>>16284146
i thought hullo was smart? do people create the content for his videos and he just reads a script? its super unlikely that 90% of the hawthorne jobs are moving.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 21:53:42 UTC No. 16284150
>>16284146
Just the headquarters is moving. The factory in California probably wont be expanding and will only shrink over the years as Falcon9 and Dragon are retired and moved to Florida for refurb/etc. I think SpaceX even stopped production of Crew Dragon entirely afaik.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 21:54:04 UTC No. 16284152
>>16284147
are you retarded? he has been living in austin for years now
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 21:54:44 UTC No. 16284154
>>16284149
Its just his MDS tribal/animal instinct reacting.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 21:55:46 UTC No. 16284157
>>16284152
>>16284147
He lives in Starbase.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 22:00:21 UTC No. 16284163
>>16284150
yes it will gradually be discontinued, but F9 is still going to be flying for quite a while so the factory will stay around
on the other hand Tesla did expand operations in California after moving headquarters to Texas, they added an "engineering HQ" and a megapack factory and the Fremont factory is still working and I doubt its going anywhere
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 22:00:36 UTC No. 16284164
>>16284072
This miss-piggy-ass whore needs to shut the fuck up or go slander a different industry
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 22:01:22 UTC No. 16284167
>>16284157
wrong, he sleeps at starbase sometimes, he lives in austin with shivon zillis
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 22:02:31 UTC No. 16284172
>>16284122
Buttmad?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 22:03:13 UTC No. 16284173
Considering the new office building at Starbase that will be ready in a few months, and the fact that F9 will very soon be obsolete, the move out of California isn't even that surprising. For Xitter it makes sense, it will be easier for him to just stay in Texas and shorten his travel time between the factories/offices.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 22:03:38 UTC No. 16284175
>>16284167
Do we have any bikini snaps of her? Or overwatch cosplays?
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 22:21:02 UTC No. 16284194
>>16283713
>refurbish
and then they're going right into the ocean
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 22:28:15 UTC No. 16284201
>>16284130
Tight-squeeze caving in a spacesuit sounds like one of the most retarded possible things you could do. It's like the aforementioned, but also cave diving, but also if your wetsuit gets a puncture you die.
I'm sure people will do it.
I do however HOPE that most lunar cavers would be exploring smaller passages with drones that can either deploy a tether or signal repeaters.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 22:52:43 UTC No. 16284213
>>16284150
the lefties REEEing seem to think moving your HQ means moving your entire operation rather than an address on paperwork
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 22:56:07 UTC No. 16284218
>>16284213
It actually will mean that because they're relocating to places they already have people working instead of a PO Box in Delaware
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 23:07:02 UTC No. 16284228
https://x.com/TheSpaceGal/status/18
This is so cute and EPIC!
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 23:11:31 UTC No. 16284231
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1RDGlyeM
Ellie livestream on SpaceX move
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 23:13:51 UTC No. 16284233
>>16284228
>I’ll become one of the first ~100 women in space and the first female astronaut from West Virginia.
why are women like this. men dont say im the first guy from east texas under the age of 40 and 1/8th apache on my mom's side to go into space.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 23:15:46 UTC No. 16284235
>>16284233
even more pathetic considering she legally isnt an astronaut
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 23:17:01 UTC No. 16284236
https://www.reddit.com/r/EagerSpace
We now have a subreddit to ask the Eager beaver questions
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 23:21:25 UTC No. 16284239
>>16284237
we're so fucking back
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 23:23:05 UTC No. 16284241
>>16284228
>>16284233
Is there a reason why BO space tourists make such a huge show of the fact that they are gonna be "le astronauts guyz"? SpaceX passengers seem comparatively stoic.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 23:38:22 UTC No. 16284254
>>16284241
BO - tourists
SpaceX - astronauts
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 23:44:22 UTC No. 16284264
>>16284241
Built different
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 23:44:37 UTC No. 16284265
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 23:46:52 UTC No. 16284266
>>16284237
Nothing to worry about, told you
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Jul 2024 23:47:44 UTC No. 16284267
>>16284194
You know I'm seething
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 00:01:22 UTC No. 16284279
>>16283903
It's the second or third one, he's bound to get it right eventually if he moves it often enough.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 00:03:35 UTC No. 16284282
>>16284241
How come when Stephany instagram takes a cruise she blogs the whole time but when Jose blue-collar spends 6 months on an oil rig you barely hear about it?
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 00:09:10 UTC No. 16284285
BRILLIANT PEBBLES
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 00:12:01 UTC No. 16284289
nay, spinlaunched pebbles
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 00:14:44 UTC No. 16284294
>>16284146
Not really, if you won't move then you aren't a driven engineer who believes in the goal anyway.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 00:14:52 UTC No. 16284295
>>16284279
timeline is accelerating
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 00:19:36 UTC No. 16284300
>>16283891
Exactly as I predicted immediately after OFT4
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 00:26:03 UTC No. 16284305
When the fuck is DFW getting some love, Elon?
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 00:27:27 UTC No. 16284307
>>16284294
I'm not saying its some big problem that some will stay, I'm just saying some will choose to stay in california
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 00:52:17 UTC No. 16284324
>>16284319
i get having a manufacturing site out in the sticks, but moving twitter there too? wtf
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 00:56:16 UTC No. 16284328
>>16284324
If you can literally run your business from anywhere, why not?
(The problem is you are A) going to rapidly price the locals out of their own homes and B) become the biggest employer in town, rapidly decreasing the appeal of moving there.)
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 00:57:37 UTC No. 16284331
>>16284324
might have something to do with some new business line perhaps
no idea what it might be though
some integration with starlink?
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:06:29 UTC No. 16284340
>>16284324
getting some fresh country air will be good for those computer nerds
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:13:24 UTC No. 16284346
>>16284343
>job requirements: put your children on hormone pills
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:14:11 UTC No. 16284347
>>16284343
>asteroid mining
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:15:34 UTC No. 16284348
>>16284343
>we're hiring
bullshit
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:16:34 UTC No. 16284349
you Musk loving faggots are so retarded and childish lmao
how the fuck did you guys even find this thread?
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:17:09 UTC No. 16284351
>>16284132
Is this accurate?
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:18:22 UTC No. 16284353
>>16284349
>ostensibly interested in space flight
>hates the only guy in the entire world who is actually innovating in space f light
You stick out like a sore thumb.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:20:26 UTC No. 16284356
>>16284349
Spacex = spaceflight
Musk = spacex
Ergo, spaceflight = musk
You = faggot
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:21:27 UTC No. 16284358
>>16284351
Not really
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:24:27 UTC No. 16284360
>>16284353
>>16284356
>Musk internet defense force in charge of attacking their beloved leader
AND THEY DO IT FOR FREE HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
lmao @ ur lyfe
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:24:47 UTC No. 16284361
>>16284351
>higher taxes=better education
Your mind on leftoid politics
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:25:38 UTC No. 16284363
>>16284328
Bastrop is like half an hour out of Austin. And if someone commutes from Austin, they'll be going opposite of rush hour traffic. Calicucks brains would asplode at not crawling down a highway twice a day.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:26:03 UTC No. 16284364
>>16284360
>no argument w.r.t spaceflight, only more EDS ranting
shocking
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:26:46 UTC No. 16284365
>>16284347
>assteroid mining
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:27:08 UTC No. 16284367
>>16284360
>*attacking people in defense of their beloved leader
fixed
>>16284364
>argument
I don't read any in pro of the guy. he's fucking retarded. he only shoots himself in the foot every time he opens his fucking mouth lmao
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:31:16 UTC No. 16284370
>>16284367
>>I don't read any in pro of the guy.
SpaceX is the most innovative and advanced spaceflight organization in the entire world.
(You ignored this the first time and you will ignore it again.)
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:39:48 UTC No. 16284374
>>16284370
so they copied russian rockets and added computers to stabilize them. I doubt musk himself wrote a single line of code or did any calculations for that...
most probably, the glowies behind him told him to invest on it
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:40:14 UTC No. 16284376
Why are you guys replying. Retarded general is too easy to bait.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:40:18 UTC No. 16284377
>>16284374
confirmed for knowing nothing about space flight
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:40:34 UTC No. 16284378
who is kerbal space program here?
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:40:55 UTC No. 16284380
>EDS in /sfg/
No one who actually likes space dislikes Elon Musk
🗑️ Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:41:42 UTC No. 16284382
>>16284378
I just bought it recently but I'm assuming at it.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:42:49 UTC No. 16284385
>>16284378
I just bought it recently but I'm ass at it.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:43:26 UTC No. 16284387
>>16283923
Someone needs to take this man's kids away, imagine thinking this is a bad thing
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:45:29 UTC No. 16284391
>>16284385
noice mate you will get better at it at a fast rate once you learn the basics, I am currently playing with mods which makes the game like 20x harder than the vanilla experience.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:52:19 UTC No. 16284399
>>16284343
I am hiring (cute 18yo girls with no experience)
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:52:49 UTC No. 16284400
>>16284393
This graph feels cruel. The pop-out box is like spitting on someone and kicking them in the ribs after knocking them down.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:53:27 UTC No. 16284401
>>16284349
Repent now
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:54:21 UTC No. 16284403
>>16284361
SAT math scores
>California 536
>texas 481
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:55:07 UTC No. 16284405
>>16284393
it's obvious but if he mentions SL at all it's painfully obvious bait
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:56:44 UTC No. 16284406
>>16284403
SAT checks if you have a pulse, that's all it's good for
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 01:56:56 UTC No. 16284407
>>16284393
but... no... this can't be... but the hyperloop... no... I'm sorry for baiting everyone. I'll just go...
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 02:00:57 UTC No. 16284411
>>16284393
anon... if millenials has as much power or money and knowledge as this fag or the owners or administrators of other space companies, they would create vastly better technologies.
seriously, this guy is not as brilliant as you think he is. he's a great business owner, though, i'll give you that
but enough about Musk. why the fuck would you defend him for free? do you think you'll be given tickets to mars or some shit for defending him? how sad can you fags get?
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 02:01:37 UTC No. 16284412
>>16284393
This...Wow
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 02:02:45 UTC No. 16284413
>>16284411
Elon could literally kill my father, rape my sister and mother, drown my dog. He could dwstroy my career and burn my home to the ground. Fuck and impregnate my girlfriend (if I had one). All while I watch in horror, but still I would support him at the end of the day. Anything that gets us closer to Mars and I mean it. I dont think anyone here can really comprehend perfect devotion
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 02:05:51 UTC No. 16284416
>>16284403
>SAT scores
Lmao, also more niggers in texas
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 02:08:59 UTC No. 16284418
>>16284411
>You're not critical enough of musk! Anyone could do it! Anyone! He's not special!
Then do it yourself, faggot. There are entire INDUSTRIES dedicated to throwing money at solutions, and they've thrown hundreds of millions of dollars at dozens of new startups trying to do what SpaceX has done. Maybe two stand a snowball's chance in hell of actually surviving, and SpaceX's execution exceeds them all, in spite of the constant employee churn that more often than not results in SpaceX alumni staffing these other startups. And yet they are not SpaceX. The only difference is Elon Musk, and the sooner you accept that, the sooner you stop sounding like a deranged moron.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 02:13:58 UTC No. 16284419
>>16284413
I can't believe you would just stand there and not help Elon.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 02:14:16 UTC No. 16284420
>>16284416
>niggers in texas
Just as many in California
Also what ever metric you use California will come out better
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 02:17:06 UTC No. 16284421
>>16284420
>Also what ever metric you use California will come out better
It loses on:
percentage California by land area
number of faggots per 1000 population
cases of AIDS per year
percentage of sidewalk surface area covered in human feces
percentage of sidewalk surface area covered by homeless
etc
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 02:40:10 UTC No. 16284441
>>16284421
>subject was specifically about education
>retard brings up unrelated things
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 02:48:26 UTC No. 16284448
>>16284441
>thinks universal quantification is specific
okay buddy
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 03:04:36 UTC No. 16284462
>>16284420
californians move to texas, not the other way around
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 03:09:38 UTC No. 16284468
>>16284016
>It leads the charge.
That would be Berkeley. SF is definitely leftist, but the immigrants and techies balance it out somewhat.
All the dumb ice cream hairs are renting crappy apartments, defending nigs, and eating avocado toast in the east bay
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 03:18:16 UTC No. 16284472
>>16284441
nta but Texas has some great engineering schools, wtf are you on
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 04:06:48 UTC No. 16284511
>>16284324
He said Xeeter is moving to Austin. This would be Elon's personal jannysary goonsquad.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 04:45:33 UTC No. 16284531
>>16283028
This is just a two stage reusable rocket except it relies upon an entire deep space mining and logistics network that has been scaled up to enable a relevant launch system. In what way would this be an improvement over Starship?
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 04:51:48 UTC No. 16284537
https://spacenews.com/nasa-space-te
>Vogel’s departure was a surprise for many in the industry. He had been spearheading a technology shortfall analysis, seeking input from inside and outside NASA on a list of 187 topics where current technologies fall short of NASA needs. The purpose of the analysis was to prioritize which areas should receive future investment. Doing so, he said in a speech in April, was designed to maximize the value of the “level of effort” funding the directorate receives.
>Vogel was scheduled to provide an update on that effort at the ASCEND conference at the end of the month in Las Vegas. It’s unclear what the status and future plans for that assessment are.
This is deeply sus, some politicking going on again behind the scenes like with forcing Lueders out of any Artemis role
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 04:53:05 UTC No. 16284540
>>16284531
it forces people to build space mining infrastructure
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 05:01:59 UTC No. 16284546
Does anyone have that Wernher image with "man will go wherever he wants and do well when he gets there" on it?
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 05:21:29 UTC No. 16284561
>>16283065
ceramic bearings are more common than you think
>>16284537
intriguing
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 05:22:38 UTC No. 16284562
>>16284540
No, because people will be able to just take Starship.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 05:30:28 UTC No. 16284566
The choice is Clear - Elon Musk
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 05:38:21 UTC No. 16284568
>>16284419
Help him...rape?
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 05:40:01 UTC No. 16284571
>>16284537
After what's his face got caught leaking stuff to Boeing I would not be surprised if this was a JPL-related ethics failure. Any links between Vogel and JPL?
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 05:51:36 UTC No. 16284578
>>16284546
It's such a great quote
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 06:18:55 UTC No. 16284584
>>16284566
>fire all of naser
>nationalize space eggs
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 06:45:48 UTC No. 16284591
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 06:53:32 UTC No. 16284599
>>16284588
refer to >>16284591
just ain't natural to be inside a man
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 07:02:34 UTC No. 16284604
>>16284588
i kinda get it because rockets are phallic, but ships are girls so idk
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 07:06:02 UTC No. 16284605
>>16284603
Faggin newsom rekt. That was early trump days anyway, he likes Elon now. SpaceX going to get their red tape teleported behind and bisected anime style aafter him donating big bux to trump pac.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 07:14:14 UTC No. 16284607
>>16284605
>he likes Elon now
>now
He always liked him
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 07:19:09 UTC No. 16284610
>>16284605
Technically, in 2016 Tesla was doing really bad, losing tons of cash. They only started to make profit in the last few years. And SpaceX had just landed a booster for the first time, had not sent any people up, Starlink was still a pipe dream, and were really rockets to nowhere(ISS). So Trump is right speaking about 2016 when Musk came on his econ council, but then pussied out because the media was screaming about muh climate Paris accords.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 08:13:22 UTC No. 16284637
Meeting Michael G. Whitaker tomorrow. When I shake his hand I'm gonna slip him three hundred bucks. Hopefully it's enough to get Falcon 9 going.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 08:16:28 UTC No. 16284638
>>16284637
You do this one thing for me: When you see him and you lean in, I want you to smell him. I want you to take a large whiff of him and report back to me. I will be online all day tomorrow waiting for your report. Good luck and thank you
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 08:22:21 UTC No. 16284640
>>16284638
Based aroma chad
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 08:26:53 UTC No. 16284641
>>16284605
I thought this was when elon said he preferred ron desantis to trump, so it wasnt that long ago
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 08:40:41 UTC No. 16284648
>>16284603
Musk is saying kneeling is fine if you eventually rise? Amazing comeback.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 08:44:57 UTC No. 16284649
>>16284648
explain
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 08:50:21 UTC No. 16284652
>>16282528
starliner isn't leaving yet
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 08:53:39 UTC No. 16284654
>>16284649
Musk feuded with Trump and backed DeSantis. Now he is kissing the ring. There is no comeback no matter how shit Newsom is.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 09:01:27 UTC No. 16284659
>>16284654
>There is no comeback no matter how shit Newsom is.
What do you mean no comeback? Trump won't work with Elon anymore?
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 09:19:26 UTC No. 16284671
>>16283923
>more cali subhumans flooding Texas
fantastic
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 09:22:19 UTC No. 16284674
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Jul 2024 13:35:08 UTC No. 16284936
>>16284578
perfect thanks