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🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General

Anonymous No. 16345390

Polaris Soon Edition

Previous - >>16343155

Anonymous No. 16345392

https://manifold.markets/TimothyBandors/will-boeings-starliner-return-with
I won

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Anonymous No. 16345393

>>16345390

Anonymous No. 16345394

>>16345392
>markets thinking there's a 1.6% chance of an ISS destroying emergency in the next 6 months
huh?

Anonymous No. 16345395

>>16345394
It's for play money (mana) so not as serious

Anonymous No. 16345402

So with tesla investing in magnesium alloy tech do you think it's possible for it to replace steel in a future starship?

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20170011677
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OIv_Rfl0L_A

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Anonymous No. 16345403

>>16345393
based

Anonymous No. 16345405

>>16345402
imagine the fireball

Anonymous No. 16345408

>>16345402
>magnesium
Not unless they want a starship that is very flammable at reentry temperatures up but maybe that's the point of the research. Magnesium alloy is already common in cars.

Anonymous No. 16345409

>>16345405
>Recent developments in magnesium alloying has led to the formation of two alloys, WE43 and Elektron 21, which are self-extinguishing and significantly less flammable because of their composition. Likewise, an anodizing process called Tagnite was formulated to deter any concern with galvanic and saltwater corrosion.

Anonymous No. 16345412

>>16345402
>there is this company Magrathea that will extract magnesium from brine and everything will be fine
Call me when they are building a production scale plant.

Anonymous No. 16345413

>>16345412
https://magratheametals.com/news/americanmetal

Anonymous No. 16345415

>>16345412
>everything will be fire
Fixed

Anonymous No. 16345420

>>16345413
Yes. I'd like to see it work in full scale profitably instead of just in a pilot plant. You can extract any trace elements from brine if you have enough money to sink. But this is not as insane as extracting gold from seawater.

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Anonymous No. 16345424

>Boeing wasn't required to have a reentry license for Starliner but SpaceX was for Dragon
https://www.faa.gov/data_research/commercial_space_data

Anonymous No. 16345426

>>16345424
is it because shartliner lands on a military base/test range and would be exempt?

Anonymous No. 16345431

What is even the point of the Artemis program?

Anonymous No. 16345432

>>16345424
>>16345426
I can't find a launch license either

Anonymous No. 16345436

is spacex building another crew dragon due to demand or because the others have alot of wear and tear on them?

Anonymous No. 16345440

How is Kamala doing leading the National Space Council?

Anonymous No. 16345443

>>16345440
>leading
lol lmao

Anonymous No. 16345444

>>16345440
Same as the national ai safety council

Anonymous No. 16345445

>>16345432
CSS and ESGHound are going to have a field day with this news

Anonymous No. 16345447

>>16345424
It's a test flight so it should be under experimental permits. Although it's unclear if you can view those.

Anonymous No. 16345451

>>16345440
Vacuous.

Anonymous No. 16345454

>>16345447
Starship is also test flights yet they show up.

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Anonymous No. 16345455

My enhanced Artemis mission, NASA take notes.

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Anonymous No. 16345461

>>16345454
Well it seems to cut off in 2019 for whatever reason.

Anonymous No. 16345463

>>16345444
kek forgot about that

Anonymous No. 16345469

Any other channels like Kyplanet?
https://youtu.be/QhOtFt5qH-0?si=7Ml0lXI6aZKetPO5

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Anonymous No. 16345471

>>16345461

Anonymous No. 16345478

>>16345078
That shitty but popular, bullshit clickbait AI generated and stolen 3rd party content YouTube channel "Great SpaceX" is actually run by a bunch of chinks in Malaysia. Its a group of young Asians, they revealed themselves in a years old episode, barely speaking English. But at least its not Pajeets, they seem to be (or, were, until clickbait profiteering set in) just engineering nerds, fans of spaceflight like us, but from a shitty country that cant possibly participate in such lofty goals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHG7CEYlxBI

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Anonymous No. 16345480

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1827970789204705610

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Anonymous No. 16345492

>>16345471
Yeah I dunno what's up with that. Some part of the permitting process for Starliner seems to exist though.
https://www.faa.gov/space/environmental/nepa_docs

Anonymous No. 16345513

Launch direction map?

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Anonymous No. 16345514

>>16345455

Anonymous No. 16345516

>>16345431
To put DEI on the Moon.

Anonymous No. 16345520

>>16345469
Astrum

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Anonymous No. 16345525

>>16345514
heh, guess I'm just as smart as von Braun.

Anonymous No. 16345526

>>16345455
>Electromagnetic transporter
Please use existing technology.

Anonymous No. 16345530

>trying to populate Mars with a big bottle of water and some seeds

Anonymous No. 16345532

>>16345530
That's all you need faggot

This proves how stupid you are B*rkon

Anonymous No. 16345534

>>16345426
>>16345432
Boeing shills out in full force, please kys

Anonymous No. 16345539

>>16345526
>Earth Moon transporter
you tried

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Anonymous No. 16345541

SPEHS

Anonymous No. 16345569

>>16345469
>Any other rambling EDS retards?
Go watch his "moon first" video. Almost everything he says is incorrect. This kid doesn't know anything.

Anonymous No. 16345582

>>16345480
>aug 26
thats today though? i thought it was launching tomorrow.

Anonymous No. 16345584

>>16345582
it was originally slated for today but got delayed

Anonymous No. 16345586

>>16345582
Tomorrows my birthday!

Anonymous No. 16345595

>>16345569
Build a massive Aluminum Oxide processing plant on the moon to manufacture solid rocket motors. Explore the entire solar system riding a one-way disintegrating totem pole with 20+stages and a mass ratio you'll have to write in scientific notation.

Anonymous No. 16345605

>possibly 22 humans in orbit at the same time soon
we're moving on up

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Anonymous No. 16345609

>>16345595
There's just no need.

Anonymous No. 16345612

>>16345000
https://nypost.com/2024/08/25/us-news/boeing-employees-humiliated-that-spacex-will-save-astronauts-stuck-in-space/

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Anonymous No. 16345619

>>16345612

Anonymous No. 16345622

>>16345612
Have they tried being competent and not sucking?

Anonymous No. 16345637

>>16345619
Womp womp

Anonymous No. 16345639

>>16345619
What do they say?

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Anonymous No. 16345640

a city

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Anonymous No. 16345667

Saarliner status?

Anonymous No. 16345671

>>16345640
and to think it was originally just going to be an extra dinky little F9 launch site. Now it’s a whole operation

Anonymous No. 16345674

>>16345640
where did all these buildings come from? couple of years ago they were welding together a water tank in a shed

Anonymous No. 16345678

>>16345674
They whip these buildings up in a matter of weeks like some sort of minecraft server lol

Anonymous No. 16345710

Discuss the Polaris Dawn mission

Anonymous No. 16345711

>>16345678
Building shit is actually really easy and fast if you have good workers, co ordinate scheduling and get materials delivered on time. The reason most construction projects take so long is beauracracy and incompetent management.

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Anonymous No. 16345713

>>16345710
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1827969979334926371

its going to be kino

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Anonymous No. 16345714

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1827976187114672420

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Anonymous No. 16345715

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1827973885226070521

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Anonymous No. 16345717

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1827973254440460740

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Anonymous No. 16345719

>>16345717
https://x.com/stats_feed/status/1827971025591587204

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Anonymous No. 16345720

>>16345714
hmmmmmmmmmmm

Anonymous No. 16345721

>>16345710
> orbital inclination 51 degrees
Thought they were going over the poles, hence the name
wtf

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Anonymous No. 16345722

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1827913440872009912

Anonymous No. 16345725

>>16345720
kek what is happening to western society these days. Mars needs to be what Rhodesia tried to be

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Anonymous No. 16345726

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1827914673586397680

Anonymous No. 16345729

>>16345725
Interplanetary space is much harder to cross than a line on the map or an ocean. Mars is our only hope.

Anonymous No. 16345730

>>16345720
>obectivity
>sense of urgency
lol, I'm a bit surprised meritocracy is not on this list as it usually is

Anonymous No. 16345731

>>16345722
But by that metric the space companies will not dominate the land (of Mars)
>>16345725
Women should not be allowed to vote on the colonies—this isn’t even a sexist thing, they just vote against their best interests like a bunch of retards

Anonymous No. 16345733

>>16345725
Marxists have taken over the west without anyone realizing that.

Anonymous No. 16345734

>>16345725
Final phase of the THOROUGHLY DEBUNKED protocols going into effect

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Anonymous No. 16345735

>>16345720
>being impartial, fair, and absence of bias and prejudice is racist

Anonymous No. 16345736

>>16345725
Western society will try to kill it just like they did to the Rhodies. Stabbed them right in the back

Anonymous No. 16345737

>>16345731
>But by that metric the space companies will not dominate the land (of Mars)
it very well could happen, SpaceX would just be the one to land the mass there and then another or a bunch of other companies actually start building the colony (after the initial small research station that might be done by SpaceX)
I wouldn't be surprised if Musk starts some Mars corporation or foundation or whatever

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Anonymous No. 16345742

>>16345725
This fucker won. "The Long March through the Institutions".

Anonymous No. 16345744

>>16345731
That's what the Boring Company was for. SpaceX delivers the goods, Boring makes tunnels for everything to live in, Tesla provides ground transport. Neuralink for enslaving three breasted Martians.

Anonymous No. 16345753

>>16345736
Then Mars and Martians must strike first, you're saying.

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Anonymous No. 16345760

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqOM9lE52CE

1h interview with kidd poteet

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Anonymous No. 16345781

what time is polaris dawn supposed to be visible from Australia? it would be cool to see it in person

Anonymous No. 16345790

>>16345521
thank you ELON MUSK, very cool

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Anonymous No. 16345795

>>16345521
>>16345790

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Anonymous No. 16345802

>>16345795
is this from that daily wire “adult-oriented animation”
It’s so cringe I have a physical recoil

Anonymous No. 16345804

>>16345612
>spacex
>upstart
They really must be smoking something strong there at boeing

Anonymous No. 16345805

>>16345802
How did you take that photo from inside my mouth?

Anonymous No. 16345806

>>16345805
kek

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Anonymous No. 16345813

"Okay -- we'll let it slide. This time."

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Anonymous No. 16345814

You -- monsters!

Anonymous No. 16345817

>>16345814
not hard enough apparently

Anonymous No. 16345829

>>16345814
>team space
As someone who likes space, you should despise anyone sucking up all the money available for space, using lawfare against their competitors, and who are unable not only to innovate, but unable even to do something we've known how to do for 65 years. Team space means harassing Boeing spokespersons until they go private

Anonymous No. 16345832

>>16345802
There isn't a single person on either end of the political spectrum who didn't react the same way as you, anon. I'd rather watch all of Brickleberry than sit through an episode of that.

Anonymous No. 16345839

>>16345714
Why does musk keep falling for fake shit?

Anonymous No. 16345845

>>16345814
Lmfao they tried to strangle SpaceX in the crib and actively blocked their growth for almost 15 years as a healthy competitor, which is what NASA needed
No refunds, these engineers can go work for SpaceX if they really truly honestly hate their job and their shit managers.
I feel no shame, and any Boeing engineer with any sense of shame should know why they are getting dogpiled rn

Anonymous No. 16345854

>>16345839
Autism

Anonymous No. 16345855

>>16345814
Team space is a relic of the shuttle age where every company under NASA agreed to stay in their lanes so they could keep sucking up as much money as possible using cost plus comtracts and when NASA didnt have a choice but to fraternize with their enemies like the Russians. Team space no longer exists in the industry due to the disruption of new space, and anyone that still uses it in this day is either so naive they still believe that we could all work together like some communist utopia in a competitive commercial setting, or they are crybullies that are attempting to use the concept of team space to enforce a faux moral superiority they have over anyone else that even dares to criticize NASA and by association old space like Boing or Locksneed. They are either fools or malicious, almost no in between.

Anonymous No. 16345860

>>16345839
its true

Anonymous No. 16345863

>>16345855
team space = team max grift

Anonymous No. 16345866

>>16345855
Yup, well said

Anonymous No. 16345870

Jared’s wife is so cute wtf

Anonymous No. 16345880

>>16345870
Why are you looking at another mans wife? Disgusting

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Anonymous No. 16345886

Reposting from last thread:
Any recommendations for realistic near-future spaceflight scifi? Has anyone read Ben Bova's Grand Tour series?

Anonymous No. 16345891

>>16345886
the kim stanley robinson mars series is always good.

Anonymous No. 16345895

>>16345886
>>>/lit/sffg
There is literally no way you can justify posting in this thread over /sffg/ it is literally called science fiction and fantasy general. You need to go there to talk about your fairy tales, we discuss actual spaceflight here.

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Anonymous No. 16345898

>>16345886
Not exactly near-future (I think the moon's population is like 3-4 generations old in this) but I like this book quite a bit. It's about lunar independence broadly speaking, and gets me thinking about eventual Martian independence.
This is where "we will throw rocks at them :)" comes from.

Anonymous No. 16345899

>>16345895
nta but
a) you are a hostile, churlish douche, and
b) /sffg/ is the biggest bundle of retards, possibly anywhere

Anonymous No. 16345901

>>16345899
I will be hostile whenever I want because I knew you would answer that /sffg/ is shit. I know theyre shit because youve told us before about them, theyre shit because all they discuss is scifi like you want to do here. I refuse to let you pollute this general with off topic fuckery like this that perfectly belongs in a different general. I dont care if they suck eggs, you suck eggs as well and should join them.

Anonymous No. 16345903

>>16345895
do your parents know how big of a faggot you are?

Anonymous No. 16345909

>>16345899
and yet /sffg/ is where science fiction and fantasy literature and discussion about said literature belongs. Not here.
I don't want /sfg/ to become Isaac Awthuw tier scifi babble central.

Anonymous No. 16345911

>>16345901
You probably came from /sffg/, almost no doubt.
gb2retardville buddy.

Anonymous No. 16345912

When's Poolaris Dawn lifting off?

Anonymous No. 16345913

>>16345912
Tonight.

Anonymous No. 16345915

>>16345912
2 weeks

Anonymous No. 16345916

>>16345901
>>16345909

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Anonymous No. 16345918

>>16345912
https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/
> 3:38 a.m. EDT (0738 UTC)
there is a 3 or 4h launch window I think

Anonymous No. 16345923

>>16345918
been lots of delays.

Anonymous No. 16345925

>>16345911
>everyone i dont like is from X bad place 8v&oe that makes literally 0 (zero) sense

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Anonymous No. 16345926

3 falcon launches tomorrow. 2 are an hour and 5 minutes apart.

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Anonymous No. 16345927

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOHZCr8EQdA

Anonymous No. 16345929

>>16345927
Self advertisement + reddit meme = normie cancer

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Anonymous No. 16345934

>>16345895
I understand why you're mad. The last thread becoming a Ukrainian shitfling fest is irritating, and I don't want the thread to turn into speculative scifi. The reason I ask here and not on lit's /sffg/ is because that general is usually crap, and because I am specifically looking for realistic depictions of spaceflight. Scifi or realistic speculation, either way I'm going to get better recommendations for what I'm looking for here. I'm not interested in far-future fantasy.
Would you dismiss books like Zubrin's as off-topic? Those are also speculative fiction, largely, but seem to be on-topic for the thread.

Anonymous No. 16345938

>>16345923
delayed from 2022 probably means it was scope creep, I think SpaceX started designing the EVA suits at that point

Anonymous No. 16345941

So who will be staying up until 4AM for Polaris tonight? Commiefornians shut the fuck up, men are talking

Anonymous No. 16345944

>>16345941
1:38 for MST, not too bad

Anonymous No. 16345946

>>16345569
should I bother summarizing how wrong everything in that video is? I posted >>16345869 but last thread was actually quite good despite the off topic latter half, so I'm almost in an effortposting mood but only if anyone else is interested

Anonymous No. 16345948

>>16345941
lmfao

Anonymous No. 16345949

>Boeing's stock didn't tank
Nice nothingburger.

Anonymous No. 16345950

>>16345941
not me lol I have to work in the morning.
wake me up if it explodes I guess

Anonymous No. 16345951

>>16345918
>3:30 AM
I fucking hate, I wanted to watch. Now I'll have to watch a recording.
They'll be broadcasting the spacewalk, right? Do we know what time they plan on that being?

Anonymous No. 16345958

>>16345946
go ahead, not much going on right now

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Anonymous No. 16345968

> Rolls on floor, then straight down the heater grate.

Anonymous No. 16345970

>>16345968
gross

Anonymous No. 16345975

>>16345970
no u

Anonymous No. 16345979

>>16345713
>That last sentence
Way to twist the knife.

Anonymous No. 16345983

>>16345941
I usually sleep late afternoon/evening so I should be up by the time the launch is scheduled to happen. Got to admit I feel a bit uneasy about this one, probably because of all of the Boeing drama.

Anonymous No. 16345985

>>16345951
not the time but it should happen on thursday or friday probably

Anonymous No. 16345987

>>16345713
Musk's behaviour is curious. He whines on twitter about woketards all the time but since the Boeing fiasco not even once did he dunk on them. I wonder who told him to behave, congress or NASA.

Anonymous No. 16345991

>>16345987
Gwynne lol

Anonymous No. 16345998

>>16345987
>not even once did he dunk on them
I said a couple weeks ago that he wouldn't until Butch and Suni were safely back on the ground.

Anonymous No. 16345999

>>16345987
he has been kind of dunking, not just directly
he doesn't need to

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Anonymous No. 16346013

https://x.com/annawmenon/status/1828089071459008615
>T-1 day! This one’s for the @SpaceX
team. From day one to T-1, I have been awed by their demonstration of how to dream big, persevere, and build a better future. This photo, taken during quarantine on our last day at SpaceX, offers just a small glimpse into the incredible team of people behind the Polaris Dawn mission.

Anonymous No. 16346017

>>16345720
>objectivity
>only one way
>quantity over quality
>paternalism
>individualism
>sense of urgency
Dumb bitch

Anonymous No. 16346020

>>16345855
Cant wait for the Berger's book.

Anonymous No. 16346022

>>16345720
Chinks are going to beat us, aren't they? How would you even purge that country from that marxist scum? They're everywhere.

Anonymous No. 16346024

>>16345958
>the only way we're getting a colony on mars is if it has (economic) value
the fag's entire video hinges on this one incorrect assertion so there's not actually much at all to dig into. All of his videos are based on the claim that the point of space colonization is to funnel resources back to earth and that if colonizing a planet isn't directly profitable for earth-based interests then it's completely impossible. He briefly acknowledges that spacex has starlink and elon funding but handwaves it as not being enough
>mars is less profitable than the moon, has less raw materials (he doesn't provide any argument for this)
genuinely thinks that the 9 month travel time between earth and mars is going to severely impact the price of shipping raw materials either way; I don't think he gets that the fuel cost/dV requirement is very similar, and he intentionally ignores that the 9 month travel time is entirely coasting. Baseless assertion that (uncrewed resource vessel) travel time impacts profitability.

He's also a helium 3 retard who thinks lunar h3 for fusion power is going to be *THE* major industry - once again he somehow doesn't even know that we can just make helium 3 for cheaper than it would ever be to mine on the moon and return to earth. Neutron activation of lithium-6 in a breeder reactor creates tritium, tritium decays into helium 3, literally infinite fusion glitch. As a matter of fact we as a species currently vent more helium 3 to atmosphere than we use in fusion experiments, because it's a minor waste product from reactors that nobody bothers to capture.

I'm disappointed at how little actual meat there is in his videos to rip into, everything else entirely hinges on the two or three baseless and easily falsified claims. He also ignores the importance of ISRU on mars being able to create methane and acts as though hydrogen is the best option for fuel while avoiding mention of the many issues it incurs. Wasn't even worth the time to write this up

Anonymous No. 16346025

>>16345886
Cowboy Bebop anime. Some aspects of spaceflight as scifi but near futuristic society is pretty grounded

Anonymous No. 16346027

>>16345987
It's easy to troll/whine/dunk about people who have such pampered lives as to be screeching progressives that worry about brown people in other countries and if someone's 3 year old is trans

It's not cool to gloat about a situation where lives of some of the best and brightest of your countrymen are at stake

Anonymous No. 16346028

Why is the study of phallic objects limited to mostly "men"?

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Anonymous No. 16346030

>>16346013

Anonymous No. 16346032

>>16346022
gradually just like they infiltrated everything gradually
they need to become shunned and laughed at everywhere and complete outcasts culturally

Anonymous No. 16346033

>>16345929
it's not my video, I just posted >>16346024 (same channel made both vids) and the shorter video you're mad at is very topical right now because it covers
a) starliner being doodoo
b) Spacex having significant success (IFT-4) at the same time boeing experiences failures (starliner launch/docking)
c) mirroring the current continued failure of starliner while SpaceX simultaneously gears up for Polaris Dawn.

Does nobody else see the connection? IFT-4 win while sharliner fails, Polaris Dawn as shameliner returns uncrewed
it's like pottery, it rhymes

Anonymous No. 16346036

>>16346022
China is classic class-division marxist that turned into state-capitalism. Western society is diving instead into new Marxism with emphasis on (all aspects of) social division.

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Anonymous No. 16346038

newspace still hasn't won until they proved the viability of orbital refueling

Anonymous No. 16346040

>>16345987
Overtly pissing in Boeing's Cheerios before the rescue is complete with Butch and Sunni back on the ground would be stupid, anon.
Plus, Musk taking the high road here will probably piss Boeing off more than anything else would.

Anonymous No. 16346045

>>16345987
Probably doesn't want to piss off NASA people with his "takes"

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Anonymous No. 16346048

Wikipedia pajeets getting a bit ahead of themselves

Anonymous No. 16346051

>>16345987
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1827913440872009912

But also

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1827497171899285803

Anonymous No. 16346053

>>16346038
orbital fueling is such a complete non-issue

Anonymous No. 16346054

>>16345951
they had to plan the launch for debris avoidance, most specifically the recent chinese LM6A that detonated an upper stage and created a dumb gravel (do NOT derail thread) cloud that crosses the same altitude they're flying through. Per hullo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG3Ngf29fUk&t=101s the launch windows being spaced 105 minutes apart matches with the orbital period of the LM6A upper stage remnants. As for the early AM launch I have no idea

Anonymous No. 16346055

>>16346053
it's the orbital oxidizering that will prove a challenge.

Anonymous No. 16346058

>>16346053
>>16346038
the only reason its thought of as somehow very difficult is propaganda from the depot hater and others which were financially incentivized to keep making expendable rockets instead of a depot with refueling
the fact that ISS is not doing any real research is probably due to similar political lobbying related

Anonymous No. 16346062

>>16345541
uhhh based as fuck?
Do you mind if I save this picture anon?

Anonymous No. 16346066

>>16346024
I did a similar post post a few months back and I came to essentially the same conclusions as you. One thing I'd like to add is that in the video where he's arguing for moon colonization over mars colonization he calls mars a airless radioactive hellscape.
He's just another person who thinks of arguments as soldiers, he doesn't care about truth claims, he just picks a side and defends it to the death.

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Anonymous No. 16346072

>>16346053
I'm genuinely concerned about starship orbital refueling having issues specifically because of the autogenous pressurization system. Currently both Starship and Superheavy use exhaust gasses from the turbopumps for pressurization, which means H2O and CO2 gases are introduced into the cryogenic tanks and form ice. We know pretty much for certain that icing in the tank is what killed the booster in IFT-2 and probably also caused IFT-3's landing relight failure, and I suspect that IFT-2's starship had icing issues as well. Elon picked turbopump exhaust for pressurant because it eliminated heat exchangers on the raptors (best part is no part) but now they're having to add in a ton of ice mitigation shit all over with baffles and extra filters on the engine inlets, and that's not even considering the potential havoc of using dirty, ice-contaminated propellants to refuel a depot.

Elon's said something like 'if everything's going perfect then you aren't pushing hard enough, you should be failing at least ~10% of the time' or something along those lines, and I have to wonder if eliminating heat exchangers is the push too far that will cause issues down the line. My pet theory is that they'll add heat exchangers to the Vacuum Raptors, because the booster should be significantly less sensitive to both the contaminated propellants and also the added mass of ice catcher filters, whereas starship is much more sensitive to added dry mass and filling a depot with water and CO2 ice is just mega stupid. If they add a heat exchanger to RVac then they don't end up with 2 different sea level raptor SKUs but they still fix the issue on Starship. Thank you for coming to my TEDx talk, I will now drink hydrazine.

Anonymous No. 16346079

>>16346069
If you are in the high hundreds of mangled corpses it stops being a tragedy.

Anonymous No. 16346082

Only thing I'm concerned for now is starship payload bay

Anonymous No. 16346083

>>16346072
>potential havoc of using dirty, ice-contaminated propellants to refuel a depot
Would there not be separate payload tanks for orbital refueler Starships?

Anonymous No. 16346093

>>16346083
that's extra bulkheads/common domes, unnecessary dry mass. again a symptom (adding extra parts that aren't needed) of the disease (eliminating a part that is). using clean uncombusted warm propellant from heat exchangers would allow you to have only one CH4 and one LOx tank and not worry at all about contamination, which optimizes dry mass and keeps better parts commonality with non-tanker starships. Water and CO2 ice in the tanks and the payload bay door are the only real problems Starship hasn't fixed yet, and one of them is extremely easy to fix without adding much mass or complexity.

Anonymous No. 16346094

Fuck Elon

Anonymous No. 16346096

>>16346094
>t. grimes

Anonymous No. 16346097

>>16346094
calm down ellie

Anonymous No. 16346099

>>16346024
lel

Anonymous No. 16346103

>>16346072
if you are worried about something like that, the tanker portion that gets deposited into the other ship or depot could be entirely separate from the propellants that the ship uses to get into orbit and get back
i.e. a complete non-issue, an extra tank-wall might decrease the mass to orbit but who cares really, this is supposed to be reusable
what less mass to orbit translates to is more launches, which just means more propellant used on earth
slightly higher cost, not an issue on a level that jeopardizes the concept itself
its still going to be a complete step change and paradigm shift (however cliche that is)

Anonymous No. 16346106

>>16346069
lol why did you hide the account

Anonymous No. 16346113

>>16346103
I realize that, but the ice causes more than just upmass issues; it also affects reliability. Going back to heat exchangers on at least RVac only adds a few parts total but could eliminate several times as many other parts, and all while improving reliability AND launch cadence as well. With the current ice buildup in the tanks they're absolutely going to have to detank any residuals and purge the CO2 and water before they can refill and fly again, if not every single launch (it will be every launch, but even assuming it isn't) then every two or maybe at the extreme every 3 launches because the fraction of ice in the tanks will increase for each non-purged reuse cycle. Using dirty exhaust gases for autogenous pressurization is just such a dumb choice that causes so many goddamn issues all for the sake of eliminating one minor part.

Elon is flying too close to the sun on this one; the voices in my head told me so.

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Anonymous No. 16346119

>>16346113
if it is truly the case, they will just drop the autogenous pressurization

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16346122

>>16346093
>extremely easy to fix
Wouldn't Raptor 3 complicate this?

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Anonymous No. 16346145

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1828117696531030380

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Anonymous No. 16346147

>>16346145
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1828118448641319040

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Anonymous No. 16346151

>>16346147
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1828123376638140576

Anonymous No. 16346152

>>16345814
Team space is a communist concept.
>Everyone we are working together! All space companies are equally valued! Lets hold hands and sing kumbaya.
No. Competition is how we reach the stars. And a few bullied Boeing retards is the bare minimum that should come to them

Anonymous No. 16346158

>>16346145
>gaganyaan
Huh? Why would india fly people to america stations? Wouldn't they want to make their own station? As well would gaganyaan actually be any cheaper than the other options?

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Anonymous No. 16346159

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1828127088357839316

Anonymous No. 16346161

>>16346158
does ISRO have the budget to make their own stations? american commercial stations seem like their best bet. it's that or tiangong.

Anonymous No. 16346162

>>16346158
>Why would india fly people to america stations?
Money, I'd imagine.

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Anonymous No. 16346163

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1828125532153933838

>>16346158
I think its about buying services from gaganyaan as they would have a working capsule, russia would not be feasible due to geopolitics

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Anonymous No. 16346166

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1828120239898587290

Anonymous No. 16346171

>>16346166
I want access to LEO to literally cost $20 and a bag of chips.

Anonymous No. 16346172

>>16346151
why not the chinese?

Anonymous No. 16346177

>>16346172
geopolitics

Anonymous No. 16346178

>>16346171
short of subsidies or indentured servitude, getting to orbit will never cost less than about 5 round trip flights from europe to america.

Anonymous No. 16346179

>>16345720
good stuff:
> perfectionism
> progress is bigger, more
> worship of the written word
> sense of urgency
> objectivity

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Anonymous No. 16346181

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1828119301141717432

Anonymous No. 16346182

>>16346163
Eric is allot less knowledgeable on the commercial space station market than I thought. Not the commercial crew transport market but the css market

Anonymous No. 16346183

>>16346178
Indentured servitude you say

Anonymous No. 16346186

>>16345731
>But by that metric the space companies will not dominate the land (of Mars)
true, we will drive Teslas on Mars

Anonymous No. 16346190

>>16345946
I had typed up a YouTube comment doing just that but it felt mean so I deleted it. I can't be too mad at a kid who's excited about space and getting others excited as well

Anonymous No. 16346193

>>16346178
with the advent of AGI and humanoid robots there could be quasi-post scarcity
at this point 5 round trips from europe to america might be equivalent to a bag of chips today from a disposable income standpoint

Anonymous No. 16346195

>>16346182
maybe he is just pessimistic and expects 5+ year long delays

Anonymous No. 16346196

>>16346025
It's pure kino but don't say any of it is realistic lol

Anonymous No. 16346197

>>16346147
If BO’s future manned vehicle isn’t lunar-capable right out of the gate then they are retarded (but what’s new?)

Anonymous No. 16346199

>>16346069
losing two people is nothing for Boeing, they're used to losing 300+ all at once

Anonymous No. 16346208

What would a BRICS space station look like? Obviously C already has a station and R is part of ISS now but the next generation looks to be aligning for BRICS and the Western Rules Based Order to each be their own pacts.

Anonymous No. 16346211

>>16346195
That is a SERIOUSLY long delay and if he believes this with all his heart that we wont have a full station by 2030 then the entire commercial space station market is hiding something huge, or he is just uninformed and doesnt keep up with CSS market. I never see him post any info on Vast, Gravitics, Axiom, Sierra, Nanoracks, etc. so I would personally think that he just isnt that informed on the subject as he is on commercial spaceflight like SpaceX, Blorigin, Rocket Lab, NASA, etc.

Anonymous No. 16346212

>>16346208
NO NO NO NO DELETE THIS IMMEDIATLY BEFORE YOU ATTRACT THE /POL/BOTS YOU IDIOT

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>>16346208

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don't drink ....webm

Anonymous No. 16346216

Don't drink and launch.

Anonymous No. 16346219

>>16346147
> when Startshit is more likely to work over Starliner
Boeing sisters... it's fucking over

Anonymous No. 16346220

>>16346216
flight termination system, what's that?

Anonymous No. 16346221

>>16346024
His economic argument is absurd. You can't make money from space resources. The math doesn't work even in your wildest dreams of Starship, and SpaceX doesn't pretend it will. Elon says he'll spend all his billions establishing a completely separate economy, full self sustainability. All space ventures are net negative but the Mars plan is the only one where you still have something after you stop spending

Anonymous No. 16346223

>>16346216
isn't this the chink rocket that wiped out a small village and the government censored the shit out of this event?

Anonymous No. 16346224

>>16346208
India is not aligning with China and Russia man
India hates China

Anonymous No. 16346225

>>16346177
private space station

Anonymous No. 16346226

>>16346223

yup

Anonymous No. 16346229

>>16346223
Zero proof that anything was "wiped out"
It's called propaganda

Anonymous No. 16346230

>>16346158
ok rape you next week

Anonymous No. 16346235

>>16346221
after the self sustainable colony is established there will probably be some kind of exchange rate in some sense (how much would it cost to buy a house on Mars for instance?) but no real trade in materials
perhaps both mars and earth will import some exotic stuff but it will be completely neglible, but doing that means there should be some exchange rate between earth currencies and mars currencies

Anonymous No. 16346236

>>16346220
> bigu redu button malfuction

Anonymous No. 16346237

>>16345814
>people have worked so hard
I don't give a fuck!!!!!! They are eating billions in funding, and we live in the real world!!!!!! Get real or fuck off!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous No. 16346238

>>16346225
I don't think western private companies can launch on chinese launchers right now, why would private space stations change that?

Anonymous No. 16346240

>>16345855
Completely agreed. Funny how the people crying about team space are always the losers who are holding back spaceflight progress (SLS, Orion, Starliner, etc)

Anonymous No. 16346245

>>16346235
Mars will experience absurd deflation as literally everything there goes for its price + it's mass in launch cost down to just its price. I have no fucking idea how that will work out economically but it might mean the SpaceX investment ultimately trickles to all the early Martian industrialists. There will probably be a constant trickle of luxury goods stowed inside the crewed ships that still arrive after the cargo ships stop. Maybe there's a sizable market for Mars rocks, but I doubt it

Anonymous No. 16346247

>>16346172
It's literally illegal man

Anonymous No. 16346248

>>16345891
Honestly it kinda sucks. I have read the entire series twice and after careful consideration plus reading a few of his other books I have concluded KSR is a commie faggot.

Anonymous No. 16346250

>>16345440
I doubt she even knows she's a member

Anonymous No. 16346251

>>16346248
What a relief to see this opinion. I couldn't finish the first one. It's always recommended but I think there just aren't that many options for Mars books

Anonymous No. 16346252

>>16346245
martian cheese

Anonymous No. 16346255

>>16346248
him being a commie faggot is why I've put off reading the series

Anonymous No. 16346258

https://essanews.com/court-orders-x-to-reveal-investors-links-to-putins-allies-found,7063945661912705a

Anonymous No. 16346260

>>16346258
not spaceflight kill yourself

Anonymous No. 16346265

>>16346038
ISS already does it, Starship did an internal transfer test, there are no real issues.

Anonymous No. 16346271

>>16346048
GODDAMN I HATE INDIANS

Anonymous No. 16346277

>>16346260
muskrat being a russian asset is spaceflight

Anonymous No. 16346280

>>16346260
ok putler

Anonymous No. 16346282

>>16346083
That would add mass and be stupid.

Anonymous No. 16346286

>>16346252
Martian weed. How tall would a weed plant grow in .38g? Sell giant weed to rappers. What other luxury products would be unique to Mars?
>>16346258
>>16346277
>>16346280
Please don't do this even as a joke, last thread was awful

Anonymous No. 16346289

>>16346286
How does this guy who sells weed beat us?

Anonymous No. 16346290

when gayaagangrapean successfully reaches the indian space station perfectly, you will apologize for blaming them on Boeing's starliner failures

Anonymous No. 16346293

>>16346290
I imagine there's a difference between the Indians working on a nation prestige project and mercenary H1Bs

Anonymous No. 16346294

>>16346260
Based thanks for doing it for me anon

Anonymous No. 16346295

>>16346113
Not a real problem, tap-off pressurization is being done to get a working vehicle fast. The real issue with the heat exchangers is that it's another difficult flow rate & timing balancing act, not worth solving now while there are more useful problems to solve, but it will be solved. Think of it like the disposable hotstaging ring.

Anonymous No. 16346297

>>16346069
total boeing death
send all of their employees to cobalt mines

Anonymous No. 16346303

>>16346119
nah, they'll just go back to heat exchangers later, once ice-in-tanks becomes an actual problem (it is not a problem for the next ~20 starship launches at least)

Anonymous No. 16346304

>>16346147
>>16346145
uhh hello, soyuz??

Anonymous No. 16346312

>>16346286
space WEEEEEEEEEEED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvc_yZEQKI

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Anonymous No. 16346313

>>16346293
Not really

Anonymous No. 16346318

>>16346304
not happening

Anonymous No. 16346323

>>16346318
neither is poopmobile

Anonymous No. 16346326

>>16346312
Kek I don't smoke I just can't imagine what else you would do that would be unique to Mars. Would wood grain be unique enough to be worth shipping?

Anonymous No. 16346327

>>16346145
>>16346147
>>16346151
>india scatcapsule #1 burger pick
superpower by 2020

Anonymous No. 16346329

>>16346304
requires us commercial station to use russian docking standard, not going to happen

Anonymous No. 16346330

>>16346220
Mass penalty.

Anonymous No. 16346334

>>16346147
completely ignores Susie wtf? and Crew Neutron

Anonymous No. 16346335

i thought berger was smart but this is the dumbest take i've seen in a long time

Anonymous No. 16346337

>>16345412
It's mostly old tech (DOW process) except magrathea aparently has even more economical chemistry to replace seashell calsium, getting factory to production stage should fast

Anonymous No. 16346340

>>16346152
correct

Anonymous No. 16346344

>>16346216
>don't chink and launch
fixed

Anonymous No. 16346346

>>16346326
Maybe Martian grown hemp for industrial use? There would be no prohibition on it on the red planet.

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>>16346334
>susie
pic related
>crew neutron
even less than pic

Anonymous No. 16346350

>>16346347
It's as likely as crew starship

Anonymous No. 16346352

>>16346208
It would look like Mir lol

Anonymous No. 16346353

>>16346171
i dunno about that but if Starship can get 150 tonnes to LEO and costs $15m/launch, the cost of a family sized bag of chips in orbit would be about $20, for real

Anonymous No. 16346355

>>16346334
Breh SUSIE is NOT happening lmfao, it will go the way of Hermes
And if they are serious about it? Well it’s so far away it doesn’t even warrant talking about

Anonymous No. 16346356

what kind of chips though

Anonymous No. 16346361

>>16346356
honey barbeque

Anonymous No. 16346365

>>16346235
Mars colonists will send completed 500m diameter spin-gravity space station hulls to Earth in exchange for Starship deliveries of cutting edge chips and advanced fabrication machines to build up their industrial base.

Anonymous No. 16346370

>>16346350
seethe yuropoor. crewed starship has secure funding and has destinations. susie has neither. europeans will fly to commercial stations from us onboard us vehicles.

Anonymous No. 16346371

>>16346323
I would say the likelihood of Gaganaayan working is much higher than NASA or western countries buying seats from soyuz after ISS is scrapped

Anonymous No. 16346372

>>16346236
very unwise

Anonymous No. 16346375

>>16346361
imagine entertaining any tater chip that isn't sea salt and vinegar.
What does /sfg/ think of yeast as space food? It seems very effecient and multi use, you get alcohol, vinegar, protein, and delicious marmite flavor, and many other thinga I'm sure I forgot.

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Anonymous No. 16346377

>>16345720
Why are burgers like this?

Anonymous No. 16346381

Is ITAR actually stealth protectionism that helps protect the US space industry?

Anonymous No. 16346382

>>16346375
Lol he calls crisps 'tater chips', amerifag

Anonymous No. 16346384

>>16346251
The first one was the best anyway, you're missing nothing
>>16346255
Good instincts, the entire series becomes a big seethe about capitalism being bad and a new commie "gift economy" saving the solar system and Earth from strife & starvation (lol)

Anonymous No. 16346394

>>16346286
Why grow weed when you can put the cannabinoid genes into hair algae and grow that instead?

Anonymous No. 16346396

>>16346326
Microchips, isotopes for medical purposes, anything that requires heavy pollution to manufacture.

Anonymous No. 16346397

>>16346381
>stealth

Anonymous No. 16346398

>>16345721
The mission going over the pole is Fram2

Anonymous No. 16346400

>>16346290
>when gayaagangrapean successfully reaches the indian space station perfectly
*when gayaagangrapean successfully reaches the indian space station exactly*, fixed that for you

Anonymous No. 16346404

>>16346260
hero
>>16346346
natural fibers for textiles will be in demand, sure.

Anonymous No. 16346405

>>16346396
Also, because of the lower gravity, Mars will be the industrial hub that will unlock asteroid mining and orbital construction, and then the really big space stations and generational ships required to go to other star systems. Obviously urfer cucks will cope and seethe and ask "but how does that benefit me on urf!?!?", to which the Martian Chad will answer "lol, lmao even".

Anonymous No. 16346406

>>16346377
not enough war, and too many comforts. Survival used to be a struggle even as close as our grandparents’ lives when a lot of work was manual, you could die easily from a cold or flu and medicine was a lot less trivial, food was more locally sourced and in some cases “grow or starve”
Now everyone sits around staring at their electronic rectangle all day looking for problems, and making up issues
These problems won’t exist in space when you don’t give a fuck about earther politics bc you’re too busy worrying about Bob and Lisa outside the mars hab doing an EVA to fix the leak. You’re too busy helping Janice find the source of the catastrophic greenhouse collapse due to some chemical. You’re too busy fixing the ISRU machine so you don’t run out of oxygen.
Problem is, these earther problems such as identity politics exist within NASA and shitty contractors like Boeing and it is holding us back, tethered to Earth

Anonymous No. 16346409

>>16345987
>Musk's behaviour is curious

It makes perfect sense when you realize that to him other launch providers are literally the "I don't even think about you." meme.

Anonymous No. 16346410

>>16346375
goated chip selection, idk about yeast but a modified mycelium could be useful for a range of things.

Anonymous No. 16346415

>>16345998
This. Don't start bragging before you've won.

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Anonymous No. 16346417

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1828118448641319040

Anonymous No. 16346420

>>16346417
reminder the scatship was supposed to launch 5 years ago

Anonymous No. 16346422

>>16346405
Earthers will be seething endlessly at the supposed defilement of the solar system as real people out in space continue to do real things instead of wringing their hands about preserving the "beauty" of an endless dead waste of rock and ice balls flying through space.

Anonymous No. 16346425

>>16346409
SpaceX's whole thing is that they focus on doing better than themselves. No reason to pay significant attention watching losers lose.

Anonymous No. 16346430

>>16346420
> only 5 years late
massive improvement over NASA already

Anonymous No. 16346431

>>16346370
It's going to be a long time before starship is approved for human flight at this rate.

Anonymous No. 16346440

>>16346431
After 10 successful launches it will be good to go.

Anonymous No. 16346442

>>16346431
long time meaning less than 5 years?

Anonymous No. 16346448

>>16346022
>Chinks are going to beat us, aren't they?
No. NASA isn't actually necessary for Americans to continue to dominate space flight after the decade of shame. There is a way forward now without their involvement, if their cultural myopia kills them.

Anonymous No. 16346450

>>16345731
>voting
No one should be voting on Mars at all until the colony is self-stabilizing. No one should be allowed to even be there who isn't useful.

Anonymous No. 16346451

>>16345814
There's no participation trophies in space travel. Either you succeed or you're worthless. Results matter, not fee-fees.

Anonymous No. 16346452

>>16346346
>Maybe Martian grown hemp for industrial use?
How can that possibly be competitive with Earth hemp you cretin?

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Anonymous No. 16346454

India Space Superpower

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Anonymous No. 16346458

"If it's Boeing, I'm going to have a conflict of financial interest when ruling on the legality of a verdict against them" just doesn't have the same ring to it.

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Anonymous No. 16346463

Plant Earth is blue
And there's nothing I can _____

Anonymous No. 16346466

>>16346417
>Adds his own power gaps
Based

Anonymous No. 16346468

>>16346454
> humanoid onboard
good to see they will put Indians in their G2 craft, that's pretty fast progress desu

Anonymous No. 16346477

>>16346463
Heeeeere am I floating ‘round my shit can

Anonymous No. 16346479

>>16346463
imagine the smell

Anonymous No. 16346489

>be CONTOUR
>$200 million Discovery-class mission
>fucking explode
Thanks STAR 30, you piece of shit SRB

Anonymous No. 16346497

>>16346463
>Planet earth is blue
>And there's nowhere I can poo

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16346526

>>16346199
They also assassinate their whistleblowers, they're just another amoral octopus arm of the globohomo crime syndicate

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Anonymous No. 16346527

Ahem...FUCK BOING

Anonymous No. 16346551

>>16345814
TOTAL BOEING REPUTATION DEATH

>"people have worked so hard"
>labor theory of value
EAT SHIT AND DIE, COMMIES

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Anonymous No. 16346553

>>16346527
Given the current state of starship, HLS just seems like insanity

Anonymous No. 16346562

>>16346145
Musk should throw few bucks at Sierra to get them across the finish line, just to screw up NASA's excuse for keeping Starliner around.

Anonymous No. 16346565

>>16346553
Given the current state og βơ⟟ηG! SLS just seems like insanity

Anonymous No. 16346566

>>16346553
t. 74 IQ pedophile

Anonymous No. 16346571

>>16346553
The current state of Starship seemed like insanity a few years go.

Anonymous No. 16346576

>>16346553
cute!

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>>16345814
>Team Space
GALACTIC LEBENSRAUM
https://altcensored.com/watch?v=GAx3FnVAOWA

Anonymous No. 16346587

Eurobros...
https://youtu.be/orVonJwofD8

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Anonymous No. 16346591

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1828143112168067342

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Anonymous No. 16346592

The new Ranveer (the Lex Friedman of India) just dropped.

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>>16346587
>Doesn't show the nigger/Somalinigger filled cities where you get arrested for self defense and the government wanting to take your guns away because you post Andy Six logs on /b/ which is a red flag

America, land of the mediocre and home of the delusional.
>t. Minnesotafag

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>>16346591
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/08/when-it-comes-to-expanding-human-activity-in-space-polaris-dawn-is-the-real-deal/
>Yet whereas Inspiration4 felt like something of a novelty, Polaris Dawn is truly pushing the boundary of private spaceflight forward. Working closely with SpaceX, Isaacman has plotted a five-day flight that will accomplish a number of significant tasks after it launches.

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>>16346598

Anonymous No. 16346602

>>16346600
>This is the first of three "Polaris" missions that Isaacman is scheduled to fly with SpaceX. The plan for the second Polaris mission, also to fly on a Dragon spacecraft, has yet to be determined. But it may well employ a second-generation spacesuit based on learnings from this spaceflight. The third flight, unlikely to occur before at least 2030, will be an orbital launch aboard the company's Starship vehicle—making Isaacman and his crew the first to fly on that rocket.

Anonymous No. 16346603

>>16346431
Did I say starship? I meant to say orion!

Anonymous No. 16346604

>>16346596
I genuinely thought anon was describing the UK until I checked who he was responding to.

Anonymous No. 16346605

>>16346600
>the crew will don four spacesuits
My mind read that as don fursuits.

Anonymous No. 16346607

>>16346420
Death, taxes, and space hardware missing their projected goals by a good 5-7 years. I don’t think this will ever be escaped.
>>16346596
We really should just give minnesota to Canada, and nuke it right after the exchange for good measure

Anonymous No. 16346611

>>16346605
lmao

Anonymous No. 16346613

>>16346450
>No one should be allowed to even be there who isn't useful
Mars colonists could lease apartments out to Earther scientists in exchange for shipments of high value items that cannot be produced in situ, like 5nm chips and worcestershire sauce bottles

Anonymous No. 16346614

>>16345987
>I wonder who told him to behave, congress or NASA.
Neither would matter if they want to go to space. Not like they have an alternative. He probably just realized that Boeing's humiliation speaks for itself.

Anonymous No. 16346618

>>16346553
ok I guess, see you in two years

Anonymous No. 16346621

>>16346571
Current state is where F9 was a decade ago.
Quite a few things that need to be reliable (not merely demonstrated)
>surviving reentry unsacathed
>booster catching
>ship catching
>ship docking
>prop transfer
The pile of things that need to go right is much bigger still than what has gone right.

Things will probably accelerate once they start flying boosters multiple times, and I think they will get there but HLS is still far away.

Anonymous No. 16346622

>>16346592
why do so many indians look brown yet pallid? it's like they're diseased or something, it's incredibly ugly in a visceral way, like seeing a person with warts or a big purple birthmark on their face

Anonymous No. 16346624

>>16346596
You really don't appreciate how good you have it there. In Europe it's either:
a) live in the west with higher wages and even higher crime rate
b) live in the east with lower wages and very low crime rate
Meanwhile, an American can move to a state that, by comparison, may be much further away than the distance between European countries and still live at a similar level or perhaps even higher.
Why not try Texas?

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Anonymous No. 16346627

>>16346622
It's their shitty diet.

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Anonymous No. 16346628

>>16346553
The state advances with launches. Gerst sends his regards, FAAggot.

Anonymous No. 16346630

My timeline on xitter used to be spaceflight and now it's all Miku

Anonymous No. 16346631

>>16346622
>>16346627
High rates of diabetes, too, because of their bad diets.

Anonymous No. 16346635

>>16346614
>He probably just realized that Boeing's humiliation speaks for itself.
This + Polaris Dawn prolly

Anonymous No. 16346637

>>16346622
high immune system load from all the feces everywhere, veganism so they probably have different dietary deficiencies, no excercise

Anonymous No. 16346640

>>16346527
I fucking miss this old NASA.gov homepage layout, everything compact and neat, the new one is an abomination that unironically made me stop visiting it entirely

Just compare https://www.nasa.gov/

Anonymous No. 16346642

>>16346630
I can't browse X at work anymore because of all the cute and funny
Partially my fault tho

Anonymous No. 16346646

>>16346621
surviving re-entry is going to happen next time, booster catch might very well happen next time too
ship docking and prop transfer won't be a problem whatsoever, why would docking be difficult exactly? just need working RCS
they already demonstrated small scale prop transfer, well enough to complete that small NASA contract

the only real question marks are booster catch to a smaller degree and ship catching to a higher degree
so if booster catch works on IFT-5, I think its just ship catch to go really + refining all of it which will happen with more flights

Anonymous No. 16346647

Convince me that SpaceX chasing booster catch and reuse now instead of focusing on Starship space operations (relight, control, payload, reentry) is the right move because I can't see it

Anonymous No. 16346650

>>16346621
All of that will be done in a year.

Anonymous No. 16346651

>>16346647
Yeah I forgot spacex can only focus on one thing at a time. Dangit!!

Anonymous No. 16346653

>>16346647
reuse is the long pole of Starship operations, but you were not asking a sincere question

Anonymous No. 16346655

>>16346647
Space is easy, reuse is hard

Anonymous No. 16346657

>>16346627
>>16346631
>>16346637
My suspicion is correct, they appear abhorrent because they show visual signs of being sickly disease bags. Good old pattern-recognizer still works!

Anonymous No. 16346658

>>16346647
>relight, control, payload, reentry
shit they already know how to do with F9 and Dragon, if they don't solve booster and ship catch then all that other shit is somewhat irrelevant with respect to the goal of rapid reusability
they also did this previously by starting to work on the ship before the booster, the ship was more difficult so thats why they worked on it and did the bellyflips and so on, the booster was a somewhat known quantity (just scaled up) from F9
and going even more back, starting with the raptor before starting to do other stuff
the most difficult and thus probably most time consuming problem first
otherwise you might be in a situation where you solve a bunch of easy shit first, use time for that and then are unable to solve a difficult but critical problem and can't get the system to function, if you drop the programme at that point you wasted a lot of time on the easy problems that became moot

Anonymous No. 16346661

>>16346553
Retard.

Anonymous No. 16346662

>>16346647
Relight, control, payload, and reentry are still being worked on, and also they're gonna try to catch them. What is your issue?

Anonymous No. 16346664

>>16346662
>What is your issue?
If the catch attempt fails and knocks out Pad A for some time thats time wasted that could have been spent on more Starship flights

Also really fucking tired of seeing a Starship flight, it goes well and then Elon comes up with next batshit crazy idea to pull off on the next one which means FAA has to spend extra months reviewing it for the license, and now its already almost September with no flight on the horizon, I wanna see more launches sooner dammit

Anonymous No. 16346667

>>16346647
They could technically launch Starlink in nextflight, but they want to get rid of early failures first with "test" flights.

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Anonymous No. 16346668

Sane moon mission plan
>So we're gonna launch cargo landers to the landing site first so there is a lot of supplies
>Then we're gonna send multiple landers docked onto a nuclear Earth to Moon transfer ship capable of also carrying hundreds of tons of payload in addition to the landers while also serving as a small orbital station around the moon
>Then the astronauts will be able to have copious amounts of supplies, building materials and construction equipment in order to rapidly construct a permanent base on the moon with it getting better and larger with each mission

Artemis
>Apollo but now with a woman and a black guy this time

Anonymous No. 16346669

>>16346640
when did this happen? this is shameful

Anonymous No. 16346672

>>16346592
>Ranveer
this show is good i am watching it it is decent af better than lex imo

Anonymous No. 16346673

>>16346647
relight works (see OFT4), control works (see OFT4), payload works (see OFT3), reentry works (see OFT4)

Anonymous No. 16346674

>>16346669
sometime last year

Anonymous No. 16346675

>>16346662
I think he refers to the fact that SpaceX skipped doing engine relight and payload door testing on IFT-4 even though they tested those on IFT-3
i.e. they are prioritizing ship and booster landing and catch before getting payload delivery to work, another strategy might be to do payload delivery first and start launching starlinks and then after that works try to start catching the boosters and ships
the latter is what they basically did with F9, they didn't directly try to do re-use of the booster, it was a secondary mission after payload delivery

Anonymous No. 16346678

>>16346664
There's nothing an empty can will do to the launch pad.

Anonymous No. 16346680

https://planetocracy.org/p/review-of-reentry


Review of Re-entry, new Berger book

Anonymous No. 16346681

>>16346673
relight in atmosphere works for ship, but they didn't test it in orbit (or partial orbit)
payload did not work on IFT-3

Anonymous No. 16346682

>>16346680
Fuck Reentry, read Quantised Accelerations!

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Anonymous No. 16346683

>Flight 2 Static Fire Update
>Loss of vehicle
https://x.com/ablspacesystems/status/1828182472439611528

Anonymous No. 16346685

>>16346681
Proof?

Anonymous No. 16346686

its IFT, not OFT
OFTs now refer to starliner tests (yuck)

Anonymous No. 16346690

>>16346685
proof of what?

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Anonymous No. 16346692

>>16346683
why are these guys so shit lmao

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Anonymous No. 16346694

>>16346683
>Due to the launch pad having no direct water supply

Anonymous No. 16346695

>>16346694
Containerized launch system is very important, please understand

Anonymous No. 16346698

>>16346683
Kek ripbozo

Anonymous No. 16346699

>>16346686
why did elon copy boeing? star-liner>star-ship
oft>oft?

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Anonymous No. 16346700

>>16346683

Anonymous No. 16346702

>>16346699
Starlin_
er?
k?

Anonymous No. 16346703

>>16346694
The starship launchpad doesn't have a direct water supply as far as I understand
didn't have an electricity supply either for a long time

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Anonymous No. 16346705

The official name is Flight 4

Anonymous No. 16346708

>>16345869
>assuming no major breakthroughs with Q>1 fusion AND materials science making kilometer long flawless carbon nanotubes
And if both of those things do happen?

Anonymous No. 16346710

>>16346705
They’ve changed the naming convention every fucking flight. At this point I think it’s just a troll from ol’ Musky

Anonymous No. 16346711

>>16346705
>topo map
what did they mean by this

Anonymous No. 16346712

>>16346686
Correct and factual statement here. Every word of it. OFTtroons gtfo

Anonymous No. 16346713

>>16346711
looks cool and distinguishes it as “land” to juxtapose it from the water
Ain’t no topography change on the TX coast though that’s for sure lmao

Anonymous No. 16346714

>>16346702
if you look carefully elon sole "star" from starliner. this is like stealing i from iPod

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Anonymous No. 16346716

>>16346705
>Hexagon has 6 sides
>Mission 4
>6,4....64
>Nintendo 64 launched in the year 1996
>1996, 6 being the last number
>This post was made on 08/26/2024
>26th day, another 6
>666

Anonymous No. 16346718

>>16346699
to dab on them
steal the name and make the product not-shit

Anonymous No. 16346719

>>16346713
It's kind of strange how those altitude lines end up perpendicular to the shoreline.

Anonymous No. 16346720

>>16346705
Not according to the license request written by SpaceX. You fanboys are getting more retarded by the day

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Anonymous No. 16346722

Elon should rename Starlink to StarlynX

Anonymous No. 16346723

Has anyone ITT met Greg Autry

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Anonymous No. 16346726

>>16346720
Nuh uh

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Anonymous No. 16346727

>>16346720
>giving a damn what government paperwork says

Anonymous No. 16346729

>>16346726
open the license ;)

Anonymous No. 16346730

>>16346723
Chances are 0.0000001%

Anonymous No. 16346731

>>16346727
SpaceX writes the request retardnigger

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Anonymous No. 16346733

>>16346719
Oh wait good point, it could just be an artistic representation of the wetlands

Anonymous No. 16346734

>>16346730
I went to ASU, I could probably track him down

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Anonymous No. 16346735

>>16346729
Still Flight 4 ;)

Anonymous No. 16346736

>>16346731
source?

Anonymous No. 16346738

>>16346731
So?

Anonymous No. 16346739

>>16346683
kek these guys are so shit.
how many vehicles have they lost now?
prolly ngmi

Anonymous No. 16346740

>>16346736
Are you joking or lobotomized

Anonymous No. 16346743

>>16346736
FAA requests the FAA for a SpaceX license? Wow you really are braindead
>>16346735
> control-F OFT
oof

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Anonymous No. 16346745

>>16346740

Anonymous No. 16346751

nobody cares about what its called technically
do not engage same fags that started the nuclear drivel spam
bannable extremely low quality posting

Anonymous No. 16346754

>>16346751
Gonna cry?

Anonymous No. 16346756

hot space on space action

Anonymous No. 16346758

>>16346751
If it's called one thing on government paperwork, that doesn't mean that is "technically" the name, as if government paperwork filed by SpaceX is the most authoritative source for what something from SpaceX is named (it isn't.) Whatever Elon personally calls it is the most official name it has, and the most "technically correct" name.

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Anonymous No. 16346761

>tfw ywn Brachyeet trajectory your 10,000 km/s nuclear cargo ship retrofitted into being a warship to go commit Jihad against Martianiggers with no survivors

Anonymous No. 16346762

>16346758
remeber to report for extremely low quality :)

Anonymous No. 16346763

>>16346751
>announcing a report
Maybe post about spaceflight than contributing to the whining, faggot fuck

Anonymous No. 16346764

>berger waiting room with tesla stock earning hold music
Get in here
>what are you talking about?
Get twitter

Anonymous No. 16346765

>>16346764
lynchian

Anonymous No. 16346768

>>16346764
Why is it hosted by an alt right politics xitter influencer?
What did he mean by this?

Anonymous No. 16346770

https://x.com/i/spaces/1BRKjwarVRaGw/peek

Anonymous No. 16346771

>>16346764
https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1828190764276367576

talking about the tether now

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Anonymous No. 16346773

Anonymous No. 16346775

>>16346770
>>16346771
Not joining this Elonian ball-suckling exercise. Kill yourself

Anonymous No. 16346779

>>16346775
then don't you fag, nobody cares

Anonymous No. 16346782

I wonder if the spacesuit itself has rad shielding materials given Berger's comments. I know that metal shielding/plastic shielding also helps

Anonymous No. 16346785

>>16346775
Fuck off redditfaggot. Go back to your leddit trannyland

Anonymous No. 16346786

>>16346773
F1NN5TER?!

Anonymous No. 16346787

>>16346786
wat?

Anonymous No. 16346788

>>16346787
Don’t worry about it if you don’t know

Anonymous No. 16346789

>>16346786
>>16346785

Anonymous No. 16346791

>>16346787
pedophile tranny

Anonymous No. 16346792

>>16346786
kek

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Anonymous No. 16346793

>>16346786
>>16346788
erm.... what are you watching anon?

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Anonymous No. 16346796

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1828176485120606235

Anonymous No. 16346798

>>16346779
too busy suckin alt right cock i see
>>16346785
Discord, I'm from the /sfg/ discord. Where real discussion actually occurs

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Anonymous No. 16346800

https://files.catbox.moe/6kf40t.webm

Anonymous No. 16346801

>>16346796
Wow so Elon is teamspace?

Anonymous No. 16346802

>>16346798
what's the difference between far-right and alt-right and which group supports space flight more?

Anonymous No. 16346805

>>16346786
Vacate the premises. Now. Run. Vamoose.

Anonymous No. 16346806

>>16346798
>discord tranny
Kill yourself faggot

Anonymous No. 16346808

>>16346796
Based Elon being reasonable

Anonymous No. 16346810

>>16346806
Getting really defensive after pointing out you have no life and are wasting it listening to mindless dribble propaganda on Xitter

Anonymous No. 16346812

SUBORBITAL FLIGHTS FROM LOS ANGELES TO DUBAI

Anonymous No. 16346813

>>16346812
kek
and now they are talking about starship

Anonymous No. 16346817

>>16346813
been talking about dragon and starship the whole time

Anonymous No. 16346818

>>16346802
Hmmm. It’s complicated. One side believes the earth is flat, the other openly love Nazis and WvB put man on the Moon and was in the SS. But there’s so much overlap it doesn’t matter
Simple answer is that, by and large, nobody cares about space really. Whether you’re alt-right, libertarian, far-right, progressive, communist… no one cares and no one has co-opted space as a political movement aside from “lefties like climate science” but even that is skin-deep and they equally shriek about the emissions that rockets give off so…
If you want a “party” that supports space your best bet is this sort of new emerging “Unity Party” of Trump, RFK, Tulsi, and most importantly Elon who is putting the bug in Trump’s ear about space flight, nuclear power, American-led AI, etc

Anonymous No. 16346819

>>16346810
Nah just a natural response to kill communists NPC trannies. Its a moral and ethical mode to kill you faggots

Anonymous No. 16346821

>>16346818
didn't read, fuck off fag

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Anonymous No. 16346823

>FAGGOT

Anonymous No. 16346824

>>16346821
I was nta by the way and I was answering in good faith
Why the obsession with calling people fags today, missing the cock that you play with between the sheets you homo?

Anonymous No. 16346825

>>16346823
God the Bob&Doug suits looked like fucking shit >we have come such a long way

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Anonymous No. 16346827

Getting very political in here. Everyone take a breather. We don't want a repeat of last thread. There's a cool flight in just 9 hours! Lighten up!

Anonymous No. 16346829

>>16346827
that was 2 threads ago

Anonymous No. 16346832

>>16346826
What is it called when you can see this much of the upper gums while smiling?
I feel like I notice it with women way more than men.

Anonymous No. 16346835

Peter Diamandis hopped on

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Anonymous No. 16346838

>>16346680
https://x.com/peterrhague/status/1828167007633658340

Anonymous No. 16346840

>how do you spell insanity
>SLS
Berger is whipping in the kitchen right now wew

Anonymous No. 16346842

>>16346832
A fake.

Anonymous No. 16346845

>>16346832
small teefs

Anonymous No. 16346846

>the original promise for the shuttle was 25 dollars per pound, what it achieved was 25k dollars per pound

Anonymous No. 16346851

>>16346846
The original promise for my wife was happiness, what I got was a divorce and half of my check being taken.

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Anonymous No. 16346852

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1828133787961827516

Anonymous No. 16346856

everyone on this spaces except berger and diamandis is a massive faggot jesus

Anonymous No. 16346860

>>16345934
Maybe that book by Buzz Aldrin, I forget the name

Anonymous No. 16346861

>>16346852
I’m confident they’re at least going to show a fully stacked rocket ready for launch right before the October deadline
But one way or another they won’t be ready and it will scroooooob
First NG flight will be Q1 2025

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Anonymous No. 16346865

>>16346845
cute
>>16346856
yeah because they're politics grifters / elon orbiters instead of space autists

Anonymous No. 16346867

How bad will it be if Polaris Dawn blows up?

Anonymous No. 16346868

>>16346252
Martian wine. The double-length growing season and long winter cannot be replicated easily on earth and has very good effects on the grapes.

Anonymous No. 16346869

Elon flag on Mars

Anonymous No. 16346870

>>16346867
it wont blow up

Anonymous No. 16346871

>>16346835
>>16346856
>Diamandis is an O’Neill faggot
Not a good look!

Anonymous No. 16346872

>>16346867
Very bad because Elon would probably lynch the Flight Reliability team and go to prison for life

Anonymous No. 16346873

>>16346867
A Falcon 9 hasn't blown up in a way that would kill the crew in 8 years

Anonymous No. 16346874

Welp there’s the political answer wow

Anonymous No. 16346875

>>16346873
Now you've gone and done it.

Anonymous No. 16346876

>>16346867
It'll be the end for muskrat.

Anonymous No. 16346877

>>16346874
what?

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Anonymous No. 16346878

Democrats confirmed anti-space

Anonymous No. 16346881

>>16346871
Settle down wellnigger, spacers are talking

Anonymous No. 16346883

>>16346838
bold of him to think those people could read

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>>16346874

Anonymous No. 16346886

Lot of people not in the /sfg/ discord. I'll post the invite when I get home.

Anonymous No. 16346888

>>16346877
I don’t have the quotes verbatim but they were talking about whoever is POTUS in the 2030s has an opportunity to deliver a “before this decade is out” speech for Mars
Berger said a democrat won’t do it, and won’t support Mars

Anonymous No. 16346892

>>16346888
Damn, I was expecting those words from a war criminal

Anonymous No. 16346893

>>16346886
Go kill yourself troon

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Anonymous No. 16346894

>>16346862
Has Jessica spoken yet?

Anonymous No. 16346895

>>16346894
She’s too busy crying on livestream

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Anonymous No. 16346896

>>16346894
She's talking right now

Anonymous No. 16346897

>>16346894
Long ramble and still on going. With no question. AAAAAAAAAAAAA

Anonymous No. 16346898

>>16346888
Trips confirm that Democrats are Magian scum

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Anonymous No. 16346899

>>16346874
>>16346878
Told you

Anonymous No. 16346900

>>16346894
been speaking like 5min about her life story (fucking boring)

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>>16346894
https://x.com/jessica_kirsh/status/1824666171594924490/video/1

Anonymous No. 16346903

>>16346896
of course there is an anime girl

Anonymous No. 16346906

>>16346888
trips confirm

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Anonymous No. 16346907

https://x.com/jessica_kirsh/status/1824321728287306184/photo/1

Anonymous No. 16346908

>>16346903
lol that's Troonful

Anonymous No. 16346909

>>16346903
it’s a canadian male, which is even worse

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Anonymous No. 16346910

>>16346894

Anonymous No. 16346911

>>16346888
that's hardly a surprise to anyone remotely followed spaceflight
dems are always more interested in climate study

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Anonymous No. 16346915

Trump is going to create a national guard system for the Space Force.
That means every state will have it's own space force branch and it's own space program.

Anonymous No. 16346916

>>16346915
EVERY STATE GETS A STARSHIP AND STARSHIPSTATION

Anonymous No. 16346917

>>16346915
Michiganbro bricked up for Trump

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Anonymous No. 16346918

>>16346917
Make that two, anon

Anonymous No. 16346919

>>16346915
I can't wait for Idaho to get a spaceport only to have a launch go wrong and a booster lands in the INL research reactor

Anonymous No. 16346920

>>16346915
>why yes we need more black women doing makework "space" projects

Anonymous No. 16346921

>>16346915
didn't think of that but that is actually a very good way to create jobs in all states and simultaneously incentivize private space corporations doing good tech as these will be the customers
so a bunch of jobs in all states and some of that money will be funneled to the space technology sector through contracts of all kinds
as long as space force continues to try to procure through private companies instead of through cost+ contracts like NASA has done in the past and with specific contractors
pretty nice to not need actual scientists/engineers as that might be difficult to do in every random state, but it makes sense to decentralize military bases and the workers/soldiers there can be basically anyone (though I guess a bunch will need technical knowledge too)

Anonymous No. 16346924

>>16346915
instead of space national guard we need space coastal guard and dragon ready to launch anytime in case of emergency in commercial space station

Anonymous No. 16346926

>>16346920
does the national guard design its own weapons? I don't think so
the space national guard won't design its own rockets either, or any technology for that matter I would think

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Anonymous No. 16346927

>>16346902

Anonymous No. 16346928

The fight to keep elon tethered to earth is going to get nasty. They’ll throw everything they have at stopping the Mars project.

Anonymous No. 16346929

>>16346926
which is why they will do pointless makework for their whole existence
Same as the entire space force

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Anonymous No. 16346930

>>16346927

Anonymous No. 16346931

>>16346927
Put some fucking clothes on. Women post this shit and then complain that they are objectified by society. Have some class, have some shame.

Anonymous No. 16346933

Please stop, I'm afraid of women

Anonymous No. 16346934

>>16346930
Ok now that's crazy
What a whore

Anonymous No. 16346935

>Polaris Dawn launches at 09:38:00 UTC+0200
comfy

Anonymous No. 16346936

>>16346929
they are responsible for stuff like satellite imagery and coordinating that to the relevant military
not all of it is pointless makework, might not be much at all at this point

Anonymous No. 16346937

>>16346936
The NRO already does that

Anonymous No. 16346939

giwtwm

Anonymous No. 16346941

>>16346939
Spreading cheeks on the beach??

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Anonymous No. 16346942

>>16346930

Anonymous No. 16346943

>>16346909
He's actually a pajeet

Anonymous No. 16346944

>>16346931
Women should be comfortable with objectification. It's the only consistent form of value them seem to have.

Anonymous No. 16346946

>>16346943
hahahah no way, I know he's non-white but he's pajeet too?

Anonymous No. 16346947

>>16346943
You’re joking, please say you’re joking or making that up

Anonymous No. 16346949

>>16346943
I mean isn't that somewhat redundant

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Anonymous No. 16346950

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1828196445364928616

Anonymous No. 16346952

>>16346942
What’s the confusion? They both took a picture focusing on what they wanted to show.

Anonymous No. 16346954

>>16346950
Yeah

Anonymous No. 16346956

>>16346950
!!

Anonymous No. 16346957

>>16346950
That's insane!

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Anonymous No. 16346960

I'm honestly curious what the space force will be up to in 20 years. Their research and development funds on a yearly basis is fucking huge.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16346961

>>16346920
if you want to be racist go to /b/

Anonymous No. 16346962

>>16346950
oooo-boy

Anonymous No. 16346963

>>16346960
Strategic Defense Initiative but not managed by incompetent boomers

Anonymous No. 16346964

>>16346950
Umm based department

Anonymous No. 16346965

>>16346960
Laze every non-american object attempting to leave the atmosphere. Space is ours, the rest of you stay here.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16346966

>>16346939
>giwtwm
>god I wish twum were me
YWNBAS

Anonymous No. 16346967

>>16346965
Unironically though

Anonymous No. 16346969

>>16346949
audible exhale heh

Anonymous No. 16346970

>>16346963
Wasn't the whole danger of the SDI the fact that actually going through with plans would force a launch since it would close the launch window itself?

Anonymous No. 16346972

>>16346960
1000 Starship with nukes

Anonymous No. 16346973

>>16346970
SHUT UP

Anonymous No. 16346974

>>16346966
YWNGTS

Anonymous No. 16346975

>>16346965
Nah. Anyone with spirit of exploration is a fine pool of evolutionary gene. But only self-selected private astronauts.

If its government mandated, there will be laggards.

Anonymous No. 16346978

>>16346970
I'm more inclined to believe the real danger was zealous generals who wanted to turn it into an explicitly offensive weapons program and certain power brokers of the war hawk variety. I think the technological advancement was worth the risk in the end even though the whole program was corrupt to the core.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16346981

>>16346915
The difference between having a 50 state space national guard systems and having one Space Force is that the 50 will produce massive competition between each other, which is what made SpaceX so good to begin with. It was all of SpaceX's newspace competition that lit a fire under Musk's ass and made him devote the resources necessary to beat out all the competition.

Anonymous No. 16346984

>>16346981
?
The other "new space" competition didn't even try for orbital flight or reuse

Anonymous No. 16346985

>>16346981
Much more likely to make things a complete clusterfuck, it makes sense for air force but not really space

Anonymous No. 16346986

>>16346981
Delusional and the exact opposite of what happened.
Their biggest competition was ULA and Russia for the first 15 years

Anonymous No. 16346987

>>16346981
>50 will produce massive competition between each other
Dumb

Anonymous No. 16346997

>>16346986
spaceforce does not build or launch rockets...

Anonymous No. 16347001

>>16346997
massively embarrassing reading comprehension fail

Anonymous No. 16347002

>>16346997
Anon come on now…

Anonymous No. 16347004

>>16347002
>>16347001
literally 99.9% of all space difficulty is in the launch
They now have 10k people who are not involved in that at all

Whats their purpose???

Anonymous No. 16347005

>>16345814
>woman speaking
i dont care

Anonymous No. 16347007

>>16347005
female work from home PR people are just as important as anyone else

Anonymous No. 16347008

I can get Kim to sign the artemis accords

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16347010

>>16346984
>new shep'tard isn't reusable

Anonymous No. 16347014

>>16347010
New Shepard doesn't compete with anyone but Bezos wallet

Anonymous No. 16347015

>>16347014
lol

Anonymous No. 16347016

>>16347010
>orbital
?

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Anonymous No. 16347018

You will fly on Utah made solid boosters and you will enjoy it

Anonymous No. 16347019

>>16347017
>We should be flying Orion on Ares I to the station
god what could have been

Anonymous No. 16347020

>>16347018
what in the FUCK do mormons know about srbs?

Anonymous No. 16347021

>>16347019
They've spent 30 billion dollars on the Orion so far

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Anonymous No. 16347022

>>16347017
seems a bit too spicy for something Berger would actually say

Anonymous No. 16347023

>>16347021
I bet the heat shield as is works just fine coming back from LEO

Anonymous No. 16347026

>>16347019
The stupid Ares I boomstick did more damage to the tower than a shittle launch would normally do. I'd love to see that death trap fly with people on it, every launch you'd have good odds of seeing some nice escape system action

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Anonymous No. 16347028

>>16346921
>soldiers there can be basically anyone
Please, anon, they're called "guardians"

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Anonymous No. 16347031

>>16345814
(You)

Anonymous No. 16347032

>>16347017
>>16347022
Berger tries to be impartial, I think both for professional reasons and because he doesn’t want to get cut off from NASA press events for talking too much smack
But damn it’s evident his patience is waning lmao. He’s growing sick of it all and after a certain point it becomes impossible not to say “spacex is doing this correctly, everyone else is retarded, and the government trying to do this is the worst of them all”

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Anonymous No. 16347033

>>16346946
Maybe a chink, considering that he lives in Canada. And he made fun of pajeets the other day.

Anonymous No. 16347036

>>16347031
>1488
kek

Anonymous No. 16347037

>Polaris helium leak scrub
Boeingchads….

Anonymous No. 16347038

>>16347037
it's so over

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Anonymous No. 16347039

>>16347037
https://x.com/Gillis_SarahE/status/1828228421035458568

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Anonymous No. 16347040

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1828225406996287814

Anonymous No. 16347042

>>16347033
prolly some sorta mutt mix living with his white single mother

Anonymous No. 16347047

>>16347040
>>16347039
What do we do about the helium menace bros

Anonymous No. 16347048

>>16347047
Trap it all in dirigibles, to subjugate the gas.

Anonymous No. 16347049

>>16347037
why are leaks so common in the aerospace industry? After 70 years of rocket science one could think this would be a solved problem

Anonymous No. 16347050

>>16347028
can they please revert the name “guardian” it’s so dumb
>ermm what do you propose then, anon
I’m not sure, but guardian is so lame and uninspiring and larpy

Anonymous No. 16347051

>>16347047
Starship. It doesn't have any Helium because it's so based

Anonymous No. 16347052

>helium leaks

IT

JUST

KEEPS

FUCKING

HAPPENING

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Anonymous No. 16347053

>>16347050
There's no shame in being a guardian of outer space, anon.

Anonymous No. 16347056

>>16347049
Seals are hard when they're
>350 bar
>sealing the smallest element except hydrogen
>quick disconnect
>exposed to the elements
>exposed to rocket exhaust

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Anonymous No. 16347057

>>16347050
The USSF is very larpy indeed and that's a good thing . They're about as futuristic as they could get away with.
They are simultaneously cringe and based
Look at their uniforms for eg

Anonymous No. 16347059

>>16347039
>>16347040
>ground-side
>helium
Just pump more in, fuck it!

Anonymous No. 16347060

>>16347057
faggy and primed for sitting at a computer all day doing spreadsheets and paperwork for zog
There are maybe 40-50 people MAX in the space force who actually deal with satellite coordination and operations on a day-to-day basis

Anonymous No. 16347061

>>16347050
They should be called Solar Guardians instead of simply Guardians.

Anonymous No. 16347063

>>16347057
it would be better if the backdrop wasn't suburbia.
some big trapezoidal window on a space ship with planets in the background? would work great.

Anonymous No. 16347064

>>16347061
How did you even solve the captcha? That’s way, way worse.
>sailor
>marine
>solar guardian
Two words?? You’re a buffoon

Anonymous No. 16347065

>>16345987
>>16346635
>>16346614
Polaris Dawn is Gemini 2.0, its existence, launch, and success, is basically the ring of the final bell that the era of old space is over. Gemini's prime contractors were Martin Company and McDonnel Aircraft Corporation. Both of which folded into Boeing when Apollo matured. There's no need for Elon to gloat, SpaceX is now defacto the new Apollo and will define Artemis and beyond via Starship. Gloating is for the mentally weak. Boeing would gloat, SpaceX lives in an echelon of its own, and none in the past decade have come close to challenging their skill, prowess, and insane capabilities. Not even Bezos with his infinite money cheat code and Blue Origin, despite forming around the same time, and having spent equal to or greater than SpaceX in cost, have achieved similar.

Anonymous No. 16347066

>>16346915
>space national guard
its been an ongoing debate. basically the only people who want it are senators cuz it'll give their states more gibs. everyone else thinks its a retarded idea and wants space force reserves instead.

Anonymous No. 16347068

>>16345814
Don't open your mouth if you can't handle the criticism.

Anonymous No. 16347069

>>16347064
>Two words??
Anon... "two words" is also two words.

Anonymous No. 16347070

The answer is Space Marines and you're not going to do better.

Anonymous No. 16347071

>>16347061
they should be called guardians of the galaxy like in my marvel movies

Anonymous No. 16347074

>>16347070
but thats cliche and misleading, the vast majority (or none) are not going to do boarding operations or whatever

Anonymous No. 16347075

>>16347050
I like how their divisions are called Deltas. Sounds like "Delta-V"

Anonymous No. 16347077

They should call them space niggers

Anonymous No. 16347079

The answer is obviously Space Marshals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYc2GQyrAlw

Anonymous No. 16347082

>>16347040
Fuck helium, try a different gas. It's always leaking for no goddamn reason

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Anonymous No. 16347083

>>16347056
>350 Bar
This is just SpaceX autism trying to make their engines as powerful as possible. The rocket industry is really the only industry where they try to push absolutely everything to its max just behind the threshold of catastrophic failure, rather than trying to design rockets that have decent safety margins so that you don't have retarded shit like a high percentage of your rocket launches being scrubbed because of multiple fuel leaks or rockets going kaboom because you just had to eek out a few extra kilonewtons of thrust or a few seconds added onto the isp.

It's like instead of designing a Toyota Corolla, they keep designing F1 race cars.

>inb4 getting to space is hard
When you're trying to maximize absolutely everything for full payload potential, highest efficiency, etc then yeah, getting into space is hard....Or...You could design a less powerful rocket with a smaller payload that actually works when you want it to work and operates at safer pressures that aren't constantly on the precipice of blowing the fuck up. Shit even for rocketry, 350 Bar is a very high pressure. A lot of rockets work at like 150-200 Bar. 350 Bar is just straight up what the actual fuck are you doing nigga levels of pressure.

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Anonymous No. 16347086

>>16347074
I would say that boarding operations would actually be very common in a future space faring society. Everything from enemy ships giving up so that they all don't die to stations and even colony stations having fuckshit happen like terrorist attacks or just social unrest. Having a boarding party becomes essential. Space warfare wouldn't all just be flinging casaba howitzers at each other and turning both fleets into glowing slag. Much in the same way as to how most wars on Earth don't result in countries expending their strategic stockpiles of nuclear weapons due to a low intensity insurgency happening in a region. Sometimes blowing up the space colony with no survivors isn't the best option. Dare I say, that is usually never the best option.

Anonymous No. 16347087

>>16347082
Ok smart guy, let's see you name three gasses that aren't helium

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Anonymous No. 16347088

>>16347087
Everything is a gas with enough heat.

Anonymous No. 16347089

>>16347083
Opinion utterly discarded because you don't know what the helium COPVs on Falcon do.
Lurk 5 more years

Anonymous No. 16347090

>>16347083
Anon right now pretty much every project is R&D focused. We're not ready for Corollas, we need F1 cars right now. Remember that F1 tech trickles down to Corollas when we master the tech.

Anonymous No. 16347092

>>16347087
Neon, Argon, Krypton. What do I win?

Anonymous No. 16347093

>>16347089
Anon, there is no getting around the chamber pressure being huge. It is what it is. The whole point being made has more to do with the overall reliability anyways. Calm the fuck down sperg.

Anonymous No. 16347094

>>16347087
the obvious answer is to use argon; the everyman's helium

Anonymous No. 16347095

>>16347092
>Krypton
That's a crystal

Anonymous No. 16347096

>>16347093
>chamber pressure
Refer to this >>16347089
Merlin chamber pressure is only 100 bar

Anonymous No. 16347097

>>16347095
>Crystal
>Krystal
Bazinga

Anonymous No. 16347098

>>16347095
Sounds like it would be extremely painful

Anonymous No. 16347100

>>16347096
We are obviously talking about the Raptor engines in regards to why leaks happen. What the actual fuck are you trying to refute?

Anonymous No. 16347102

>>16347086
>Sometimes blowing up the space colony with no survivors isn't the best option. Dare I say, that is usually never the best option.
Unless there is irreplaceable tech, people, or data in a colony, why not destroy it?

Anonymous No. 16347103

i love spaceflight, but we're in dire need of people for every service except space force. most people in space force say there's nothing to do, meanwhile we have the navy mothballing ships because they cant get enough people, boats crashing on our rivers because there arent enough coast guard to maintain the navigation system, the army whining about not having enough soldiers because reasons (some speculate DEI)

Anonymous No. 16347104

>>16347100
I believe Falcon 9 doesn't have any Raptor engines to leak from.
Falcon 9 is the rocket that just was delayed due to heliun leak.
Therefore you are a retard.

Anonymous No. 16347107

Outgassing is actually preferred on my tape drive

Anonymous No. 16347108

>>16347104
It was a general question and one the causes brought up by another anon was high pressure such as the high pressure found with the Raptor engine. Perhaps you should develop better reading comprehension skills before replying like an autistic retard.

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Anonymous No. 16347109

Thoughts on my improved design?

Anonymous No. 16347111

>>16346796
Based Elon never missing an opportunity to shit on journalists.

Anonymous No. 16347112

>>16347108
>better reading comprehension skills
>>350 bar
>>sealing the smallest element except hydrogen
>>quick disconnect
Okay retard. This is about the helium COPV on Falcon.

Anonymous No. 16347113

>>16347039
THIS is why Elon was NOT joking about the Starliner helium leaks, for those wondering. Imagine if he had

Anonymous No. 16347114

It's not that easy in heliumery

Anonymous No. 16347116

>>16347109
Idk I kinda despise solid core designs.
The Triga pulse thing seems interesting.
Would it actually work and provide very high exhaust velocity without melting the core?

Anonymous No. 16347117

>>16347113
If he did? Starliner would still be stuck, dragon would still be coming in clutch to save the day, and I would forgive him for a mistimed joke
Quit being a fence-sitter, the post appears to be going too far up your ass and you have a smile on your face as it does!

Anonymous No. 16347118

>>16347103
It's almost like low volunteer rates is a form of checks and balance where people don't feel like dying over literally nothing and wasting years away just to get injected by dangerous "vaccines" and forced to endure horrendous ideological indoctrination via DEI faggotry along with a laughably bad promotion system that only awards dick sucking and is designed to protect leaders regardless of incompetence so that they can retire with good rank rather than getting shitcanned.

Nearly every vet that has left the military in recent years have nothing but bad things to say and all hint at an overall terrible organization with no real mission. Unironically zoomers don't want to die for kikes anymore and no longer buy into the freedom and democracy stick. No actually, you going halfway around the world and shooting a 14 year old opium farmer did not give me the ability to be a minimum wage employee you are currently harassing to give you more than the standard veterans discount, please fuck off. - Nobody gives a shit anymore.

Anonymous No. 16347119

>>16347083
designing a corolla (good, cheap car that can be made profitably and mass produced) is much more difficult than designing a sport car that can be sold for a lot
Tesla started with a sports car and then went from there into less and less expensive segments, they still haven't made an entry level model
why? because its fucking difficult (though its coming)

Anonymous No. 16347120

>the only reliable way to contain helium yet discovered by science is with a 2 cent party balloon
why is it like this?

Anonymous No. 16347123

>>16347120
idk about your balloons but mine tend to be saggy raisins on the floor by the morning after the party

Anonymous No. 16347125

Brilliant Pebbles to keep the Californian Space National Guard permanently grounded.

Anonymous No. 16347126

>>16347083
Exactly. SpaceX doesn't know what they're doing. They should just follow the industry wisdom. Thats where the expert wisdom is at. Elon Musk is a fraud. SpaceX engineers are frauds.

Anonymous No. 16347129

>>16347118
trump said he would remove DEI completely and rehire (with backpay) the people fired for vaccine refusal, remove tranny shit
he might be able to rebuild the US military and get recruitment back on
also talked about modernizing in general focusing on AI and drones

Anonymous No. 16347130

Project 2025 institutes Starfleet Academy in texas

Anonymous No. 16347131

>>16347125
use space lasers to cut california off the rest of the united states and make it a penal colony

Anonymous No. 16347132

>>16347129
>trump
>DEI
>vaccine
>tranny
>AI
good goy

Anonymous No. 16347133

>>16347109
Nuclear/CH4 would only have a specific impulse of around 650s. It's not that different from the 500s nuclear-ammonia designs that the Soviets played around with back in the very early sixties, and all of those got dropped because LH2 had so much of a performance advantage.

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Anonymous No. 16347134

>>16347065
>Not even Bezos with his infinite money cheat code and Blue Origin, despite forming around the same time, and having spent equal to or greater than SpaceX in cost, have achieved similar.

Honestly SpaceX/Elon is the greatest proof of Great Man theory there is, suck on that commies with your historical materialism, it's clear that material conditions alone do not lead to greatness, there's something more that's required- human spirit, vision, immaterial qualities that are not accounted for in their materialist theories.

Anonymous No. 16347135

wait, are we really about to have 3 f9 launches in 92 minutes?
>>16347133
nuclear-ammonia might be the most useful thing ever if we found ammonia ice on phobos

Anonymous No. 16347136

>>16347132
you won't be able to get hormones or dick mutilation surgery soon so if I were you, I would do it ASAP

Anonymous No. 16347139

>>16347135
NTR will always have its issues but being unable to accept a wide range to propellants will never be one of them.

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Anonymous No. 16347140

Some1 add Starship I'm too laz

Anonymous No. 16347141

>>16347139
Great! Too bad all the issues still outweigh its fuel promiscuity

Anonymous No. 16347143

>>16347140
its about the same size as space shuttle

Anonymous No. 16347144

>>16347143
full stack?

Anonymous No. 16347145

>>16347144
no its much taller with superheavy

Anonymous No. 16347146

>>16347145
>>16347140
Probably from the tip of the shuttle down to like the U-2?

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Anonymous No. 16347147

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1828246715020812451

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Anonymous No. 16347150

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1828244024152522764

Anonymous No. 16347151

>>16347131
You couldn't easily cut it away but you could use space lasers to vaporize anyone trying to leave California

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Anonymous No. 16347152

>>16347140

Anonymous No. 16347153

>>16347150
You can tell he's recently become uncomfortable with this.
Is it really that dangerous?

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Anonymous No. 16347154

>>16347140
would be a lot easier if there were a meter scale somewhere in that chart

Anonymous No. 16347156

>>16347152
Damn, the payload volume on that has gotta be like a whole cubic kilometer

Anonymous No. 16347157

>>16346856
almost like the entire thing is organized by Elon cum guzzlers and alt righters

Anonymous No. 16347158

>>16347140
Enterprise D always looks like it's collapsing under its own weight. It's the foreshortened elliptical disc

Anonymous No. 16347159

>>16347143
>>16347144
nevermind im wrong, its somewhere in between the length of shuttle and the fully stacked shuttle (orbiter + orange tank)

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Anonymous No. 16347160

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1828241717130101212

Anonymous No. 16347163

>>16347154
you can just do dimensional analysis, you don’t need a scale if you know the size of everything in that photo, mr goofball

Anonymous No. 16347165

>>16347163
I guess you don't understand the meaning of the word "easier"

Anonymous No. 16347167

>>16347157
you guzzle a lot of cum do you? or just think about it
faggot

Anonymous No. 16347169

>>16347109
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19910012833
>Nuclear thermal rockets using indigenous extraterrestrial propellants
>by Robert M. Zubrin, Martin Marietta Astronautics
>If water is acquired on Mars, then methane can be produced (along with oxygen) by using heat from the nuclear reactor to strip CO from martian CO2, and then reacting the CO with H2O in the water gas shift reaction to produce hydrogen and CO2. Some of the CO2 is recycled to be stripped, and the remainder is then catalytically reacted with the hydrogen to produce methane and water. As can be seen from Table l, methane is an excellent candidate propellant for a NIMF vehicle, yielding specific impulses well in excess of 600 seconds. Furthermore, since it does not contain oxygen, the use of methane eliminates one of the major problems associated with either CO2 or H2O, namely oxygen attack, and would be compatible with conventional NERYA carbide fuel elements. Methane, however, fully dissociates at temperatures of interest for nuclear propulsion, and the free carbons thus created may cause coking problems. This is a question that must be resolved experimentally.

Anonymous No. 16347171

>>16347160
The funniest part is this bitch isn't even white. She's jewish. Elon is so close

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Anonymous No. 16347172

>>16347165
It's just as easy. Here is the actual size comparison

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Anonymous No. 16347177

>>16347140
>>16347163
>CVN-78
>length 1,092 ft (333 m)

>Starship + Super Heavy
>length 121.3 m (398 ft)

Like 3 full length Starship staccs can fit on this bitch godamn carriers are long

Anonymous No. 16347178

>>16347061
Or space guard. coast guard are already called guardians

Anonymous No. 16347179

>>16347177
Kek that’s the same reference I used as well, you can see the post above yours that I accidentally left my reference line on the carrier. I assumed it was 337m in length and a SS is 50.3 m
I also used stratolaunch to double check, assuming it had a wingspan of 117m

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Anonymous No. 16347180

>>16347172
you beat me to it but i guess we can compare attempts

Anonymous No. 16347183

>>16347180
yeah the other was correct in calling carriers fucking huge, damn. Starship isn’t small, and cvn-78 dwarfs it here

Anonymous No. 16347184

>>16347167
>n-no you
Nice retort, I'll take that as a yes

Anonymous No. 16347186

>>16347172
>>16347180
>starship is tiny compared to real ships
we're still so far behind...

Anonymous No. 16347187

>>16347186
Another common win for page 9 boat enthusiasts

Anonymous No. 16347189

>>16347184
That doesnt even make any sense, wtf are you talking about

Anonymous No. 16347190

https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1828251010361430038

Anonymous No. 16347193

>>16347190
>the coping begins
spacex's astronauts are stranded on earth lmao

Anonymous No. 16347194

Summer of Helium

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Anonymous No. 16347195

>>16346553
Baka

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Anonymous No. 16347197

has anyone figured out how to cope with knowing that one morning we're going to all wake up and china's going to have landed a shuttle on the moon? it'd just be fucking over at that point.

Anonymous No. 16347198

>>16347196
three shit vehicles and one good one (HLS Moonship)

Anonymous No. 16347199

starship testflight fucking when? wasnt it in 3 weeks 3 weeks ago? whats the hold up?

Anonymous No. 16347200

>>16347199
You forgot the part where it’s 2 weeks. Rookie mistake

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Anonymous No. 16347201

>>16347199
FAA

Anonymous No. 16347202

>>16347199
elon LIED

Anonymous No. 16347204

>>16347199
SpaceX just got approved by FAA for bulk launch licenses so in their infinite wisdom decided to modify the next flight so much it needs another lengthy and drawn out license application/approval

Anonymous No. 16347205

>>16345927
Falcon 9 just found out what it is.

Anonymous No. 16347206

>>16347201
Who gives a shit about safety? SpaceX are going to keep their own TX crew safe. Local sheriffs will close the highway and keep the locals/visitors safe. Anything beyond that is either people getting too close to the rocket where they shouldn’t be or thirdies near the caribbean who deserve to have a rocket fall on their head anyways

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Anonymous No. 16347207

wake the fuck up sleepyhead

Anonymous No. 16347209

>>16347195
There's no FAA in Gensokyo.

Anonymous No. 16347210

>>16347204
cant get anything done these days without having to go to war with the government which hates progress

Anonymous No. 16347213

>>16347206
the limiting factor is that the FAA has to do a bunch of preemptive CYA because gays such as sierra club will overload them with paperwork if something goes wrong and it can be traced back to their shortcoming

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16347216

>>16347172
>>16347180
https://web.archive.org/web/20060710015655/http://www.macleans.ca/topstories/justice/article.jsp?content=20050530_106573_106573
The Star Trek connection

A surprising number of child sex abusers appear to be Trekkies. Trying to figure out what that means, however, shows how little we really know about pedophiles

The first thing detectives from the Toronto police sex crimes unit saw when they entered Roderick Cowan's apartment was an autographed picture of William Shatner. Along with the photos on the computer of Scott Faichnie, also busted for possessing child porn, they found a snapshot of the pediatric nurse and Boy Scout leader wearing a dress "Federation" uniform. Another suspect had a TV remote control shaped like a phaser. Yet another had a Star Trek credit card in his wallet. One was using "Picard" as his screen name. In the 3 1/2 years since police in Canada's biggest city established a special unit to tackle child pornography, investigators have been through so many dwellings packed with sci-fi books, DVDs, toys and collectibles like Klingon swords and sashes that it's become a dark squadroom joke. "We always say there are two types of pedophiles: Star Trek and Star Wars," says Det. Ian Lamond, the unit's second-in-command. "But it's mostly Star Trek."

Anonymous No. 16347217

>>16347216
A not spaceflight
B youre posting in a thread that already has cirno fuckers

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16347221

>>16347217
>>16347216
it's weird. i watch star trek more than anime, but i consider myself to be more of an anime-type pedophile deep down.

Anonymous No. 16347226

>>16347216
Stephen Collins, who played Decker in the first Star Trek movie, was found to have abused teen girls.

Anonymous No. 16347231

>>16346024
Didn't watch this video, but historically all colonial attempts have been motivated by economical gain and/or political interests and only possible if it is feasible with the technology and available resources. Does Martian colonization bring any of this right now?

Anonymous No. 16347234

>>16347226
Didn't everyone with even a bit of celebrity status fuck underage fans back in the 70's though? I'd be more surprised if you showed me one who didn't.

Anonymous No. 16347237

>>16347199
FAA
current NET is week starting 9th sep

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Anonymous No. 16347251

what happened to get rid of the true free float space walk for Polaris

Anonymous No. 16347252

>>16347251
it was never going to be true free floating with an umbilical, unless you mean letting them float out away from the capsule while attached to it. I think they're going to take lessons from the early gemini programs where astronauts doing the first EVAs had a terrible time manoeuvring in space and getting back in the capsule. Baby steps, maybe if it goes well they'll let go of the handles but I doubt it

Anonymous No. 16347264

>>16345987
He brigades against wokeness to embolden the population and people who need to stand up to it. Shitting on boeing now would just be punching down. They fucked up, nasa is making the correct choice and he looks good. What is there to talk about? If nasa was practicing favoritism towards boeing and risking the astronauts on a suicide ride then he would be saying something.

Anonymous No. 16347273

>>16346796
>we hate spacex. We talk shit about them all the time

I'd really like to ask that dude why. I don't know who gets ahead axe grinding for the leader. Imagine being investors and shit talking warren buffet. Imagine being in computing and shit talking apple. Imagine being an online retailer and shit talking jeff. Imagine being AMD and shit talking Nvidia. You aren't winning yet man, shut the fuck up

Anonymous No. 16347277

>>16346826
Glad they thought of birth control patches. Wouldn't want to make any jelly babies

Anonymous No. 16347278

WHO IS STAYING UP FOR POLARIS???

Anonymous No. 16347280

>>16346942
Why do women insist on putting on object behind them?

Anonymous No. 16347281

>>16347057
still no navy ranks

Anonymous No. 16347282

>>16347278
For 28 hours?

Anonymous No. 16347284

>>16347282
are you retarded? Its in 3 hours. Tuesday (today) 3:38 am.

Anonymous No. 16347285

>Menon’s passion led to a master’s degree in biomedical engineering from Duke University and a seven-year stint at NASA, working as a biomedical flight controller for the International Space Station.

wtf Menon was at NASA before SpaceX I had no idea

Anonymous No. 16347287

>>16347140
Imagine how lame it would be to live in the time of the enterprise D. You're on some giant city sized cruise ship instead of a comfy space submarine. Also your spouse and children get to die with you when you captain fails at parlay with aliens.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16347288

stream is late
scrub?

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Anonymous No. 16347289

>>16347284
>>16347282
Retarded nigger detected.

Anonymous No. 16347291

>>16346927
>>16346930
phallic symbolism

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Anonymous No. 16347292

>>16347284
Allow me to introduce myself

Anonymous No. 16347293

>>16347281
Starship commanders will be addressed as "Captain" no matter what their rank, same as the common naval practise.

Anonymous No. 16347294

>>16347292
Oh my lord you really are retarded spouting absolute nonsense

Anonymous No. 16347295

>>16347190
This all feels like a subtle dig at Boeing, completely planned and theatrical "scrub" signalled by Elon hours earlier. And now they can virtue signal how much they care about astronaut safety, unlike evil Boeing who wants to kill astronauts

Anonymous No. 16347296

>>16347284
>>16347289
Check again.
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=polarisdawn

Anonymous No. 16347297

>>16347295
It is kind of interesting. When was the last time a crew launch scrubbed for helium issues?...

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Anonymous No. 16347298

>>16347293
you sure about that?

Anonymous No. 16347299

>>16347287
having families aboard ruins the whole romance of going off to sea anyway, killing them off would be an improvement

Anonymous No. 16347301

I just broke my loss streak. Time to sleep.

Anonymous No. 16347303

So is it scrubbed or not

Anonymous No. 16347309

>>16347296
Gay. Extremely gay

Anonymous No. 16347313

Is it scrubbed or not

Anonymous No. 16347315

>>16347313
>>16347303
how about i scrub you spamming faggot read the post and check the livesteam >>16347296

Anonymous No. 16347318

>>16347315
It's a yes or no question. I will accept a yes or no answer.

Anonymous No. 16347320

>>16347318
maybe

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Anonymous No. 16347322

>>16347318

Anonymous No. 16347344

>The third flight, unlikely to occur before at least 2030, will be an orbital launch aboard the company's Starship vehicle—making Isaacman and his crew the first to fly on that rocket.

Berger is smoking something, 2030???

Anonymous No. 16347345

Is Polaris Dawn launching in time?

Anonymous No. 16347346

>>16347344
By "fly on that rocket" he means launching from Earth's ground? I'd expect at least 1 Artemis landing by 2030.

Anonymous No. 16347365

>>16347345
Read the thread dumbass.

Anonymous No. 16347366

>>16347345
Yes, from a certain point of view.

Anonymous No. 16347368

>>16347083
> design a less powerful rocket
> it never reaches orbit

Anonymous No. 16347377

>>16347344
that seems very unlikely. we all know spacecraft development time can take awhile, but NET 6 years from now seems too long. we're not talking regular commercial flights or nasa flights here. polaris missions are boundary pushing experimental flights, and spacex arent greenhorns anymore.

Anonymous No. 16347383

>>16347344
Very reasonable date, what are YOU smoking?

Anonymous No. 16347392

>helium leak
hahahahaha elonbros explain?????

Anonymous No. 16347394

>>16347344
How many years did it take to get Falcon 9 boosters reliably land? How many successes would you need to start having confidence in putting humans on board.

Anonymous No. 16347396

>>16347392
Elon should obviously follow the footsteps of reliable Boing and wait until after the launch to find (predictable, due to the shitty design) helium leaks.

Anonymous No. 16347400

>>16347216
Not pedophiles, psycho faggot cannibals too
>Meiwes then ran Brandes a bath, before going to read a Star Trek book, while checking on Brandes every fifteen minutes, during which time Brandes lay bleeding in the bath, drifting in and out of consciousness. After long hesitation and prayer, Meiwes killed Brandes by stabbing him in the throat, after which he hung the body on a meat hook. The incident was recorded on a four-hour videotape, which has never been released to the public due to its gruesome contents
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armin_Meiwes

Anonymous No. 16347401

>>16347400
*Not just pedophiles

Anonymous No. 16347403

>>16347400
>After long hesitation and prayer
A real trekkie wouldn't pray, you can't pin this one on us!

Anonymous No. 16347404

>>16347216
I dislike both star trek and star wars, what kind of pedophile am I?

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Anonymous No. 16347412

>>16347209
Gensokyo canonically has a moon rocket inspired by Saturn V btw (Silent Sinner in Blue)

Anonymous No. 16347421

>>16347404
Anime purist

Anonymous No. 16347423

>SpaceX is targeting Wednesday, August 28
lmaoooo

Anonymous No. 16347425

>>16347216
What's the point of arresting people for the possession of cp while never going after people who produce it?

Anonymous No. 16347426

>>16347425
Epstein didn't kill himself.

Anonymous No. 16347427

>>16347423
>delaying to Wednesday so the spacewalk is on Saturday for maximum viewership

Anonymous No. 16347443

>>16347425
Because the feds produce it themselves.

Anonymous No. 16347447

>>16347197
Why? If NASA won't do it then someone has to. Good for them if they manage it. Maybe it'll make NASA pull their finger out their arse and do something for once.

Anonymous No. 16347449

>>16347447
No it'll just lead to sour grapes and NASA giving up on it. Sad!

Anonymous No. 16347452

>>16347449
They were never gonna do it anyway. NASA has lost all ambition they once had. It will be SpaceX vs China for the next space race. Elon has the autistic, undying passion and drive to keep pushing us forward, and China just chooses a goal and works towards it without giving up. Artemis will fail spectacularly and Space Race II will be glorious.

Anonymous No. 16347467

>>16347425
So that the precedent is maintained and some glowing fuckheads can deposit cp on a bad goys hard drive and you can send them to prison forever.

Anonymous No. 16347468

>>16345390
I JUST WOKE UP! I AM SO EXCITED TO WATCH THE POLARIS DAWN MISSION TODAY!

Anonymous No. 16347469

>>16347468
Same! I pulled an all nighter just to watch this morning (I have to work today but it will be worth it)

Anonymous No. 16347476

>>16347467
yeah, its the new "sprinkle crack on them"

Anonymous No. 16347481

https://youtu.be/v7Rfz8hJqZI

Anonymous No. 16347484

>>16347109
The point is to have the lightest molecular weight (ie. hydrogen) so you can accelerate it more. Also
>premixed

Anonymous No. 16347493

>>16346224
Yeah but they also love russia. If anyone can make india and china make up it's russia.

Anonymous No. 16347497

>>16347197
Are you retarded? That would be the best thing that could possibly happen. NASA would go from a forgotten jobs program to a results based national security priority over night. And who's currently got results? If China claims some craters with their shitty lander then there'll be an American Mars city with a decade

Anonymous No. 16347501

It's still funny that the Chinese (CASC) spent a decade succesfully developping
>A SSME equivalent (but somewhat heavier)
>A higher performance RD-180 equivalent
>A somewhat smaller RD-170 equivalent
>The largest closed expander engine ever.

But ended up using none of these because their long term plans are now just a Starship copy with Raptor copy and their short term plans need them to go to the moon and launch constellations ASAP so they just use upgraded versions of their old engine and a shitton of cheap open cycle kerolox/methalox engines.

Anonymous No. 16347503

>>16347231
>political interests
No regulation on Mars

Anonymous No. 16347504

>>16347501
it's not funny, it's frightening. it means China is not shackled by sunk cost. everyone should be copying starship, but only china is actually doing it. China will own the moon

Anonymous No. 16347508

>>16347504
Oh please they are inferior in every way.
They did make a good point in that twitter spaces yesterday though—the actual amount of usable land around the lunar south pole (LSP) with access to sunlight for energy and raw material is very limited. Artemis and ILRS obviously aren’t going to be pointing weapons at eachother but I think it WILL be a ‘might is right’ situation and whoever gets there first will a) have a claim to the prime real estate, and b) be able to spread hardware as far as possible as quickly as possible to claim as much land as possible
I doubt a single person in Congress realizes this

Anonymous No. 16347512

>>16347508
When Congress asked Bill Nelson about China's plans for the moon he said
>the far side is always dark
>we don't know what it looks like
>we don't know China's plans
It's overdone but everyone in the government is 80 years old. The moon has been American for their entire adult lives. There's only one way to get things moving >>16347497

Anonymous No. 16347515

>>16347508
The Moon is China's, I'm absolutely convinced. Your attitude is pervasive and why China keeps winning

Anonymous No. 16347517

>>16347501
Just shows that they just copy with no real ambition. Cargo culting.

>>16347504
If only we convinved them to build an SLS as a money sink, like how the Soviets were memed into building Buran.

Anonymous No. 16347518

>>16347512
idk about the China shocking the US into action theory. I can't see the USG interning Chink-Americans if a hot war breaks out like happened to the Nisei in ww2. The shitlib rot is very deep

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Anonymous No. 16347529

>The spacecraft started rolling rapidly 50 s into the burn, while travelling at Mach 2.7
> The pilot was not highly concerned by this, being confident that he could correct the situation, and he allowed the burn to continue during the roll. He later said "I thought it was kind of cool."
>He then damped out the roll, without difficulty, using the reaction jets. Overall, the craft did 29 complete rolls.
Jesus Christ test pilots really are something else

Anonymous No. 16347533

>>16347518
>interning Chink-Americans
Well that would be insane since most of our Chinese escaped the current regime and hate the CCP. Why would they even do that? How is that even relevant? We're talking about a space race

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Anonymous No. 16347536

https://x.com/Alexphysics13/status/1828390824620569022

Anonymous No. 16347537

>>16347533
>most of our Chinese escaped the current regime and hate the CCP
I'm sure deep cover agents would never lie about such things. But my broader point was about national will to action and how it has withered.

Anonymous No. 16347539

>>16347512
This is called dropping the ball, which is weird considering Nelson is from the same cloth (he wants to be called Senator Administrator ffs)
Nelson should have fear-mongered the absolute shit out of them. Make it seem like China and Russia are colluding for complete dominance of the lunar sphere of influence. That, if not addressed, within 10 years we would look up and see lights on the Moon representing China and Russian cities with the possibility of weapons pointed at Earth

Just fucking lie and get Congress scared—that’s how you get your budget for big to really really really big

Anonymous No. 16347549

>>16347518
Chud fantasies aside, interning the Japs was a pointless violation of basic American rights

Anonymous No. 16347550

>>16347504
Yes, China follows Musk's principles. In the west, there's lot of face saving

Anonymous No. 16347552

>>16347550
>Yes, China follows Musk's principles
zozzle

Anonymous No. 16347554

>>16347537
National will to commit human rights abuses irrelevant to space flight during a space race? Yeah, I hope so.
>>16347539
Nelson is an SLS guy, he doesn't want them shocked into action. He wants a steady flow of billions while not being required to show anything for it.

Anonymous No. 16347556

>>16347529
based

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Anonymous No. 16347557

>>16347481
aren't these people super partisan deomcrats? I'm pretty sure EDS comes with that so funny to hear how they comment around that lmao

Anonymous No. 16347558

>>16347552
How else do you explain how china is the only nation besides america where reusability is being pursued?

Anonymous No. 16347564

okay fucking dumbasses. Ive not been here since last starship launch. When is the next launch? Elon said it would be WITHIN THE MONTH lmao.

Anonymous No. 16347571

>>16347564
2 weeks

Anonymous No. 16347578

>>16347549
>>16347554
This
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niihau_incident
scared the shit out of the government. I don't like FDR but the alternative to internment was leaving yourself open to Jap sabotage and pogroms against Nisei lead by pissed off Americans whose son had just been killed at Guadalcanal or wherever

Anonymous No. 16347581

>>16347578
>Despite this, the Japanese population in Hawaii was largely spared from mass internment throughout the war because of economic concerns (more than one-third of Hawaii's total population were Japanese-Americans who comprised "over 90 percent of the carpenters, nearly all of the transportation workers, and a significant portion of the agricultural laborers").[20]

kek

Anonymous No. 16347588

>>16347564
about two weeks (NET 15 September)

Anonymous No. 16347590

>>16347564
One fortnight

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Anonymous No. 16347596

So first Gaganyaan version (3.1m ) will only be able to carry 2 crew. The large version (3.5m ) will need the upgraded LVM3-SC to launch 3 crew.

Anonymous No. 16347605

>>16347596
>1st cargo mission to the ISS
imagine the smell

Anonymous No. 16347607

>>16347564
unironically two more weeks (plus maybe a couple days)

Anonymous No. 16347608

>>16347529
>OVER G OVER G OVER G
>STRESS TO AIRFRAME
>LEVEL OUT LEVEL OUT

>"hehe, robot voice is cute"

Anonymous No. 16347613

>>16347209
Elon should move launch operations to Gensokyo.

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>>16347596
>ISS docking before unlocking the rendezvous and docking tech node

Anonymous No. 16347622

>>16346861
time is running out

Anonymous No. 16347632

imagine the smell of Starship-chan's massive brappers

Anonymous No. 16347637

>>16347596
>nyaan
do they really

Anonymous No. 16347640

gagabraap

Anonymous No. 16347648

>>16345891
Way too much politics, the color isn't important.
It's more politics than space.

Anonymous No. 16347649

>>16347648
well yeah there is a lot of that for sure but i did enjoy the long trips across the martian surface and the general attempt at a realistic first colony description.

Anonymous No. 16347650

>>16347596
>hygiene systems

Anonymous No. 16347651

>>16347648
Red Mars is really great tho.

Anonymous No. 16347654

>>16345622
the competent already left with the MD merger

Anonymous No. 16347655

>>16347651
the whole thing with phobos, demos or whatever and the space elevator cable was pretty interesting too. the tension between keeping mars pristine and terrforming it was interesting as well. the whole tech side of it was pretty well done.

Anonymous No. 16347660

>>16347564
Maybe a month or two

Anonymous No. 16347664

>>16347655
>noooo you can't just seed the poles with modified lichen! stoooop! what about the potential microbes we may one day find??
Dude was right to take matters into his own hands regarding the windmill deployment.

Anonymous No. 16347674

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/musks-spacex-help-return-astronauts-despite-federal-investigations-billionaires-businesses

What a retard headline

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Anonymous No. 16347677

Reminder, youtube fake SpaceX streams are up every single day. Noting has been done to address these fake streams

Anonymous No. 16347678

>>16347536
this is too much autism, you should stop caring beyond clarifying proper naming (shuttle, capsule, etc)

Anonymous No. 16347681

>>16347674
kek, the absolute state of (((mainstream media)))

they should just kill these astronauts on Starliner only to own Elon Musk, because he BAD!

Anonymous No. 16347682

>>16347677
SpaceX leaving youtube def didn't help

Anonymous No. 16347684

>>16347674
Lol. At first I thought it was either nefarious, or some O&G lobbyists influenced Fox to use titles like that because they hate electric cars and Tesla.
But honestly I think it’s just for clicks. Scroll down to the comment section at the bottom of the article; it’s a bunch of Boomers politically defending Musk.

Anonymous No. 16347686

>>16347677
the only thing youtube is useful for is infinite free file storage.

Anonymous No. 16347688

>>16347682
They have existed for years.

SpaceX leaving just means most people know only legitimate source is on X now. Youtube is 100% fraud streams.

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Anonymous No. 16347690

What is going to happen to Starliner?

Anonymous No. 16347691

>>16347690
Goodness, we're getting boomer comics about this fuck up?

Anonymous No. 16347692

>>16347690
what is it with baby boomers and political cartoons

Anonymous No. 16347694

>>16347691
it has hit the mainstream, people love drama

Anonymous No. 16347698

the thruster overheat due to insufficient thermal monitoring of the doghouses, the helium leak and the software fuckup are all three independent problems on the vehicle
this isnt just one "freak accident", its systematically fucking up, who knows what else is wrong with the capsule but not severe enough so they can't ignore talking about it
are the parachutes actually robustly working now? what about timings on the software on the re-entry sequence?

Anonymous No. 16347701

>>16347698
Helium leak is probably related to doghouse overheating but nontheless, to have problems that daisychain and cause other problems is bad
And the fact that the potential exists to ignite hypergolic fuel lines and detonate the entire service module is, uh, less than ideal

Anonymous No. 16347702

>>16347698
*meant to say thermal modeling, not monitoring

Anonymous No. 16347703

>>16347701
Helium was leaking on the ground.

Anonymous No. 16347704

>>16347703
I thought they only identified it around the onset of docking procedures

Anonymous No. 16347705

>>16347688
>most people know
no they do not

Anonymous No. 16347707

>>16347698
>>16347701
>doghouse
I've been away from /sfg/ for too long.

Anonymous No. 16347709

>>16347704
I think they got worse but they definitely had leaks on the ground that they decided were not enough of a problem to scrub the launch.

Anonymous No. 16347712

>>16347692
memes hadn't been invented when they were growing up, cut them some slack

Anonymous No. 16347713

For the first time since Apollo, the launch wont be the most interesting part of the Polaris mission
When's the stream of the spacewalk?

Anonymous No. 16347714

>>16347713
I don’t think they’ve announced it. Day 3 but we don’t know when. Probably some leeway in the schedule.

Anonymous No. 16347715

>>16347705
You dont count

Anonymous No. 16347717

>>16347713
two more weeks after the launch gets delayed again

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Anonymous No. 16347718

>>16347707
Your spoonfeeding, sire:
Thruster assembly on Starliner’s service module. Shitty design.
Here it is pictured open, but in space it is closed and placed with insulation. Boeing did thermal modeling and testing on earth, and only expected it to reach a certain temperature. Ordered thrusters and fuel assembly lines from Aerojet Rocketdyne to-spec based on their modeling; AeroDyne simply did what they were asked.
They got to space on this flight, put it in manual for docking which fired the RCS more than it would have on automatic mode, and realized the enclosed doghouse assembly was acting like a thermos trapping heat.
Hypergolic fuel lines run right behind the throat of the engine and if the doghouse gets hot enough, those fuel line will explode. The hydrazine lines only need to hit 400°C and the fuel within will undergo vigorous decomposition.
There’s a chance a deorbit burn might overheat the doghouse past this temperature.
Not sure why they didn’t experience it this bad in the first two flights, especially the first one when the RCS went crazy. But apparently the overheating is mainly caused by the aft thrusters and other flights used lateral and forward thrusters more.
Oh also apparently Boeing DID know there were issues with the doghouse and teflon specs and did not reveal it to NASA and that’s apparently an ongoing source of megafrustrarion right now and NASA is fucking pissed but that’s more watercooler talk with unconfirmed sources.
Obligatory but I have to gatekeep—lurk more

Anonymous No. 16347719

>>16347578
blaming fifth columnists for sabotaging your war effort from within is a cope that comes naturally to any country which is doing badly in a war. there were two waves of panic in the west over foreign agents in ww2 - one in summer 1940 as france fell, and one in early 1942 with japan's staggering successes in the 6 months after pearl harbor. in retrospect quislings played a trivial and badly overstated role in the axis war effort, but it's impossible to feel that way in the heat of the moment. if china ever started kicking our asses in a war you'd see the exact same pressures for internment, for the same reasons.

Anonymous No. 16347721

>>16347718
What is the QRD on the teflon issue?

Why did these problems not openly rear their head on the first two flights? If they were even mildly bad, NASA would have known and said something publicly

Anonymous No. 16347722

So Polaris is still tonight at 3:38 AM right? Not delayed another day?

Anonymous No. 16347723

>>16347721
Teflon expands under heat, in this case expands too much leading to blocking.

Anonymous No. 16347725

>>16347722
so far so good

Anonymous No. 16347726

>>16347723
Ahh so that would explain the weird shutdowns they had in this flight I assume

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Anonymous No. 16347727

>>16347718
thanks anon

Anonymous No. 16347730

>>16347726
Yup and as for why it wasn't caught prior to this, that's in >>16347718
>They got to space on this flight, put it in manual for docking which fired the RCS more than it would have on automatic mode

Anonymous No. 16347740

>new SLS mobile launcher is now $2.7 billion
JAISODENDUDIIERUDJNCEUE I HATE SLS I HATE SLS I HATE SLS I HATE SLS I HATE SLS

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Anonymous No. 16347742

>>16347740
griftsisters we won

Anonymous No. 16347743

>>16347740
>>16347742
The Pork Must Flow.

Anonymous No. 16347746

>>16347742
Who's the contractor? I want to see if I can get a job there.

Anonymous No. 16347748

>>16347740
>OIG estimated date of launch readiness May 2029 for AIV

Mid-2029 is also what the chinese currently aim for their first lunar landing, so the pledge to launch a JAXA astronaut on AIV as the first asian to the moon that Washington did back in April is already at risk only a few months later.

Anonymous No. 16347750

>>16347740
>NASA OIG has found multiple instances of award fee earnings inconsistent with contractor performance and that NASA’s use of such awards may limit the Agency’s ability to motivate contractors to improve performance and control costs. In October 2018, we reported that NASA rated The Boeing Company’s performance for the SLS Program as “Excellent” or “Very Good” despite the contract being billions of dollars over cost and several years behind schedule. As a result, we questioned nearly $64 million of award fees provided to the company. Further, in March 2020, we found the ML-1 contractor Vencore Services and Solutions was rated as either “Excellent,” “Very Good,” or “Good” despite design errors and contractor employee turnover that led to increased costs in the millions and significant schedule delays. See NASA OIG, NASA’s Management of the Space Launch System Stages Contract (IG-19-001, October 10, 2018) and IG-20-013.
contractorCHADS, we're eating good

Anonymous No. 16347752

>>16347748
No FUCKING way
This is bad. Is this the tower needed for Block 1B??? So it will bottleneck Artemis II?! Please tell me I am wrong

Anonymous No. 16347753

link to OIG report plz

Anonymous No. 16347754

>>16347750
>cost rises from $300 mil to almost $3 BILLION
>performance rating? Very good!
It’s not even laughable. It’s fucking insane.

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Anonymous No. 16347761

>>16347752
It's for the EUS, so starting from Artemis IV.
...but SLS may not even be used starting from Artemis V, so it may be single us kek

Anonymous No. 16347762

>>16347750
>Vencore Services
I couldn't find their website. Do they have one?
Vencore seems like a common name for a company anyway. They seem to be involved in border security somehow.

Anonymous No. 16347764

>>16347746
Bechtel iirc

Anonymous No. 16347765

SLS delenda est

Anonymous No. 16347766

I can't fucking wait for the day they can't justify this anymore. We're so fucking close bros. The Starliner situation just hit the normies, when they find out about SLS vs Starship in a few years it'll be the same reaction

Anonymous No. 16347767

>>16347761
I just don’t get this reusable tower meme

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Anonymous No. 16347768

https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1828466033788649706

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Anonymous No. 16347769

>>16347768
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1828458852586525075

>>16347753
https://oig.nasa.gov/office-of-inspector-general-oig/audit-reports/nasas-management-of-the-mobile-launcher-2-project/

Anonymous No. 16347771

Can't Americans contact their local representatives and voice their concern about the cost increase? All I see are people whining on twitter.

Anonymous No. 16347774

>>16347768
Estronaut has been added to the kill-list. He will unfortunately pass away after a tragic and unavoidable accident where a boeing plane lost altitude and crashed into the ground for undetermined reasons

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Anonymous No. 16347775

>>16347769
Kek

Anonymous No. 16347778

>>16347775
At least this one won't be leaning. Right?

Anonymous No. 16347779

>>16347740
2.7 bil for now
they are incredibly efficient at wasting money, where does it all even go? how many contractors does this one tower have?

Anonymous No. 16347781

>>16347754
didn't Mars return have similar bloat, going from 1bil to 10 bil

Anonymous No. 16347782

>>16347766
it should be a worse reaction, from a cost standpoint SLS and related projects are a much bigger shitshow than starliner is
isn't it up to like 25 bil at this point?

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Anonymous No. 16347783

>>16347750
>>16347762
HAHAHAAHAHAHAAHA

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Anonymous No. 16347786

>>16347783
omg
redeemed

Anonymous No. 16347787

>>16347781
>spend $10bil working with shit launchers to do something extremely complicated and specific
vs
>spend $10bil developing a Mars return rocket for which MSR is a footnote to an early test
I will build a shrine to Starship

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Anonymous No. 16347788

>>16347768
https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1828468455806300528

Anonymous No. 16347789

>>16347783
Good morning sir! Jai hind tower operation will be successful inshallah

Anonymous No. 16347797

>>16347723
As well someone a few threads ago posted a paper from the 60's showing that even back then it was well known teflon and hypergols don't work together.

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Anonymous No. 16347798

2.7 bil for a tower that is 6 feet higher

Anonymous No. 16347799

>>16347740
You need a new mobile launcher for each SLS.

LMAO.

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Anonymous No. 16347800

>>16347798

Anonymous No. 16347803

I wonder how much starship tower costs because it's essentially the same thing and we know that starship tower is reusable.

Anonymous No. 16347804

>>16347781
That's before any work got done. it would have ballooned to 100B given the chance

Anonymous No. 16347806

>>16347798
At what point does congress get mad about the lack of product?
Are they seriously only concerned about keeping the jobs online and the pork flowing?
While we’re busy sleeping we risk China getting a Mars sample return before us, and China-Russia setting up operations on prime lunar real estate before us

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Anonymous No. 16347807

> Our projectionsare based on the substantial cost growth that the Bechtel contract has incurred over the last 3 years, past performance issues observed during design with the production of detailed drawings for steel fabrication and management of the launcher’s weight, and the significant amount of construction work that remains.

Anonymous No. 16347808

>>16347806
Its a jobs program, not a space program.

Anonymous No. 16347809

>>16347806
>Are they seriously only concerned about keeping the jobs online and the pork flowing?
That's what gets them reelected, so yes that's very important.

Anonymous No. 16347811

>>16347806
this is what congress is after, funneling money into contractors that employ people in their state
they don't give a shit if a project actually gets completed or not, in fact its actually annoying in some sense as a new project needs to be created to keep pork coming
the general public is the one that should get mad, but they don't seem to give a shit

Anonymous No. 16347812

>>16347807
How does something become 7 times more expensive in 5 years? Is this crypto

Anonymous No. 16347813

>>16347806
Both of these are at high risk of happening and someone influential needs to write a prominent op-ed in the NYT or WSJ, or go before congress and get + plead to get the ball rolling even if it means fast-tracking a commercial lunar vehicle and just throwing SLS/Orion out the window

Anonymous No. 16347814

>>16347800
That’s $400 million in cost overruns per foot, for those of you keeping score at home.

Anonymous No. 16347816

>>16347501
>their long term plans are

LM9 is China's two weeks meme, LM10 is their Moon rocket and it uses their version of the RD-170.

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Anonymous No. 16347817

NASA will have to cut more science programmes to keep this going if things continue like they have

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>>16347812
supposed to take 4 years but OIG instead estimates it will take over double of that, not really sure why the costs just keep ballooning besides that

Anonymous No. 16347827

>>16347817
Just a reminder how fucking stupid Congress is: they asked Boeing, quite recently, to explore offering SLS as a commercial launcher for private paying customers [math]\unicode{x1F602}[/math]

Anonymous No. 16347828

>>16347811
But the project wouldn’t get completed even if they delivered. There’s like 5 artemis missions lined up, with the possibility of making dozens more. If they actually delivered the rockets and the launch pads and the capsules they’d keep the jobs and have so much more to show for it.

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Anonymous No. 16347830

>Labor Costs. Bechtel vastly underestimated the number of labor hours required to complete the ML-2 project and, as a result, has incurred more labor hours than anticipated. From May 2022 to January 2024, estimated overtime hours doubled to nearly 850,000 hours, reflecting the company’s attempts to meet NASA’s schedule goals.
>Other Direct Costs. This category includes costs associated with equipment, minor subcontractors, and estimated management reserves, among others
>Indirect Costs. These costs include overhead and general and administrative expenses. Overhead costs are typically incurred based on labor hours, so as labor hours increase, overhead costs also increase

Anonymous No. 16347831

>>16347827
how you made this emoji?

Anonymous No. 16347832

>>16347605
vindaloo takeaway

Anonymous No. 16347834

>>16347806
Congress is not aware that China is an issue so the jobs program trundles on

Anonymous No. 16347835

>>16347816
>uses their version of the RD-170.
Not really, it's got clustered engines, reusable versions of the YF-100, which is pretty much a bigger Chinese version of RD-120/RD-801

Anonymous No. 16347839

>>16347827
the more SLS procured the cheaper each SLS becomes, the problem is SLS have become too expensive for anyone to chose it if given the choice

Anonymous No. 16347840

>Astrobotic releases post-flight report of Peregrine lander failure
>failed helium pressure control valve led to the rupture of the spacecraft’s oxidizer tank, causing propellant leak
He bros, not a good week for us!

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Anonymous No. 16347849

>>16347827
EXPLAIN THIS

Anonymous No. 16347851

>>16347839
Until some backwoods factory in Georgia runs out of a specific part that all where originally built for shuttle 3 decades ago, then it's a 10 million ask for "retooling"

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Anonymous No. 16347852

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1828480172485414978

https://www.barrons.com/articles/spacex-polaris-delay-boeing-stock-850fe900?mod=bol-social-tw

Anonymous No. 16347853

>>16347852
lol salty berger I love it

Anonymous No. 16347855

>>16347828
>If they actually delivered the rockets and the launch pads and the capsules they’d keep the jobs and have so much more to show for it.
yeah but that's hard. handing out money for nothing is easy.

Anonymous No. 16347862

>>16347852
Damn barrons has me blocked.
Can anyone provide context to the thing barrons quoted? Are they really just straight up admitting to being willfully ignorant about space flight?

Anonymous No. 16347863

>Falcon 9 and Dragon are vertical on pad 39A ahead of flight. Weather is 85% favorable for liftoff and teams are keeping an eye on recovery weather

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1828486662411952357

Anonymous No. 16347864

>>16347862
"boeing not so bad because spacex helium leak"

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Anonymous No. 16347865

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1828486662411952357

https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=polarisdawn

Anonymous No. 16347868

>>16347840
Are all of these helium valves from a common supplier?

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Anonymous No. 16347869

>>16347865

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there is an interactive earth that can be spun around

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Anonymous No. 16347871

Here me out

This but for Starship

Anonymous No. 16347873

>>16347871
How would it catch it?

Anonymous No. 16347874

>>16347873
You don't catch Starship Heavy

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Anonymous No. 16347878

USSF is fucking cooking

Anonymous No. 16347881

>>16347878
Dayum, by what means though? A fleet of military starships? Orion pulse fission battleships??

Anonymous No. 16347883

>>16347881
The D-word.

Anonymous No. 16347885

>>16347883
also possibly Starships and NTP

Anonymous No. 16347886

>>16347883
Well yeah no shit sherlock I mean what ship

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Anonymous No. 16347888

>>16347878
>SF develops Moon operations themselves with SpaceX
>Bypasses NASA's Artemis timeline
Thank you Donald Trump

Anonymous No. 16347889

>>16347881
by means of writing pdfs about shit that will never happen

Anonymous No. 16347893

>>16347888
lmfao

Anonymous No. 16347894

>>16347889
kek

Anonymous No. 16347895

>>16347888
this might actually happen realistically, Artemis is such a shitshow and if USSF contracts SpaceX by itself to do a moon base and on orbit depot infrastructure, I'm pretty sure they are basically guaranteed to do it before NASA gets through with all the shitshows

Anonymous No. 16347898

>Tire on Boeing 757 explodes during maintenance at Atlanta airport, killing 2 Delta employees
They just can't catch a break

Anonymous No. 16347900

>>16347895
I'm expecting something to happen as the moon represents a national security issue instead of a jobs program. This would set an incredible precedent. A private moon base that breaks no treaties, funded by the military.

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Anonymous No. 16347902

>>16347900
Is it finally time?

Anonymous No. 16347904

>>16347900
China will land first, and we will go into the "for all mankind" timeline

Anonymous No. 16347905

>>16347900
>A private moon base that breaks no treaties, funded by the military.
Apollo PMC?

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Anonymous No. 16347906

>>16347904
>>16347905
IT'S TIME!

Anonymous No. 16347907

>>16347871
did you miss the discussion a couple of weeks ago? its already in the works.

Anonymous No. 16347909

>>16347740
>2 billion for a launch platform
That's like 1/2 the entire starship program, including the cost of building all that shit in Boca chica lmao

Anonymous No. 16347912

>>16347852
berger should know that serious investors have industry analysts on their payroll. the likely know what a quick disconnect umbilical is.

Anonymous No. 16347913

>>16347904
listening to the spaces with berger and diamandis yesterday people have no idea what starship is, how close a moon base is, the fact that real estate is actually somewhat restricted around the south pole and thus access to simultaneous cold traps + 24/7 sunlight and that China might very well land there before Artemis and claim areas for themselves
none of this is appreciated by the public, they have absolutely no idea what Starship means
just another big rocket that keeps blowing up, a complete boondoggle by that insane Musk
I think this is even a sentiment many non-Musk haters have, they don't know or give a single shit, the appreciation of Musk from the right is basically only due to X de-censorship and endorsing Trump
and I'm not sure it would be very easy or possible to make the general public understand these facts, perhaps Musk will be able to make Trump understand them or perhaps the space force does
NASA and congresscritters certainly won't as it is against their interests
they want gateway, SLS, new mobile towers and so on for jobs programmes and a wholly private moon mission would jeopardize this as people would start to make comparisons

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Anonymous No. 16347915

Have the Polaris crew had survival training in case they have to come down in the wilderness?

Anonymous No. 16347917

>>16347852
eh. If you're gonna add the Atlas V issues to Starliner's rap sheet then this is fair game.
You can spin it positively saying SpaceX shows concern for safety where Boing launched with their *capsule* leak unaddressed (remove capsule from sentence when adressing laymen)

Anonymous No. 16347918

>>16347909
that is just to date, the starship programme will continue to have like 1-2 bil costs per year (depending on how much infrastructure is being built on the given year)
so about 5bil up to now, not 5 bil for the whole starship program

Anonymous No. 16347919

>>16347750
>>16347783
there was news last week about boing doing more contracting/offshoring to india too. the people running the company seem hellbent on sucking every bit of money out of it before bankrupting the company to sell it off.

Anonymous No. 16347920

>>16347906
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2syOr578p8

Anonymous No. 16347923

>>16347915
they have hiked in some mountains, not sure about survival training

Anonymous No. 16347924

>>16347878
https://www.dodsbirsttr.mil/topics-app/?baa=DOD_SBIR_2024_P1_C4

Found it, mentions refueling and depots like 10 times, baseed

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Anonymous No. 16347932

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1828495386249486647

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Anonymous No. 16347933

Dang, I had forgotten about this Anton guy until his video popped up in my recommendations. Guy looks like a hostage

Anonymous No. 16347935

>>16347933
have to pump out videos to make money

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Anonymous No. 16347936

https://x.com/Peter_J_Beck/status/1828498248677630392
>Look at that!!!
>Engines rolling off the production line just like they should.

Anonymous No. 16347937

>>16347932
Elizabeth warren MALDING over this tweet
>>16347933
His child died and yeah, as the other anon said, if youtube is his ‘full time job’ you have to slave away to keep yourself in the algorithm to make money

Anonymous No. 16347940

>>16347935
I remember at some point he mentioned that his wife had a miscarriage, and in the videos after that he just looked totally devastated. But that was probably like a year or two ago, can't even remember. Still looks like a shell of a man

Anonymous No. 16347941

>>16347936
Every time Beck tweets it feels like it’s catered towards investors and nothing more
I really hate Rocket Lab these days

Anonymous No. 16347942

>>16347936
Looks like a rats nest. Will rats live in it?

Anonymous No. 16347943

>>16347933
>Unexplained star smells like flowers
>Evidence suggests there are actually two universes
>Major study shows most of space isn't real

Anonymous No. 16347945

>>16347923
If the polar orbit crew come down in the Arctic then a brisk walk in some foothills won't prepare them

Anonymous No. 16347947

>>16347932
One step closer to hitchhiking my way off this shitball.

Anonymous No. 16347950

>>16347943
At least he links the papers in his descriptions so you can evaluate it yourself. A simple courtesy that few other channels bother with.

Anonymous No. 16347951

>>16347941
you're probably right but his continued insistence that neutron is on track to fly next year gives him a real lolcow schizo edge lately. he's a man on the brink and i can't look away.

Anonymous No. 16347952

>>16347937
>Elizabeth warren MALDING over this tweet
How?

Anonymous No. 16347957

>>16347762
Looks like they've been absorbed by Peraton Inc.

Anonymous No. 16347959

>>16347942
the space rats move in soon as the things get to the pad. its unavoidable

Anonymous No. 16347967

>>16347945
Fram2 is the polar orbit dragon flight
Polaris Dawn is high orbit but with conventional orbital inclination I'm pretty sure

Anonymous No. 16347974

>>16347967
>Fram2 is the polar orbit dragon flight
I know that but that doesn't answer the emergency landing issue. It could take quite a while to reach them in the Arctic/Antarctic

Anonymous No. 16347977

>>16347945
Dragon is built for water splashdowns. Can they make a land touchdown or does the crew just die?

Anonymous No. 16347978

>>16347898
I enjoy bashing Boeing as much as anyone, but unless the plane still has that new plane smell it's not likely to be a Boeing issue.

Anonymous No. 16347981

>>16347974
Elon MUST build a all-weather supersonic vtol amphibious rescue plane

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Anonymous No. 16347984

>>16347740
Even Tim, a consistent #TeamSpace SLS apologist, can't contain his salt about this.
Punished Dodd arc soon?

Anonymous No. 16347989

>>16347941
Dont compare to SpaceX. Its an impossible task. Compare to rest of the non-SpaceX. Then you see that its something else.

If you compare to SpaceX, it looks absolute mehish

Anonymous No. 16347990

>>16347952
She sent a letter asking for investigation into Musk having his employees collab on work between SpaceX/Tesla LMAO

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>>16347974

Anonymous No. 16347998

>>16347990
wtf how is that illegal or wrong though, its both his companies

Anonymous No. 16348001

>>16347998
Tesla is public company, so she wants to put pressure on Musk/Tesla from regulatory standpoint

Anonymous No. 16348002

>>16347998
She’s neurotic what’s new

Anonymous No. 16348007

>>16347998
Tesla isn't his company

Anonymous No. 16348009

>>16347992
This is why they need at least a .308 rifle on board

Anonymous No. 16348012

>>16347989
Even among non-spacex newspace companies, RL feels like it's starting to lag. They have product maturity with Electron, but seem to be choking on Neutron.
In terms of both ambition and pace of development, Stoke might be coming to eat their lunch pretty soon.

Anonymous No. 16348013

>>16347936
CEOs sharing rocket hardware is good in my book. The more open they are the better.

Anonymous No. 16348020

>>16347981
and paint a big digit on it
"X-birds are go!"

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Anonymous No. 16348025

>>16347924
>>16347878
neat stuff

Anonymous No. 16348034

>>16348012
assuming BOs launch works out (not a given), then RL will be the third company to provide partially reusable medium/heavy lift launch capability
so
BO 2024
RL 2025
Relativity Space 2026
Stoke 2026 (for payloads, not just testing)

Anonymous No. 16348040

Guys I must regretfully retract my earlier comments about the chinkoid lunar water discovery: I misunderstood before but now I see.

You know how helium 3 is embedded into the dust grains on the Moon due to solar wind? You know how the concentration is so low it's basically irretrieveable? Well, turns out regular hydrogen also gets embedded into dust on the Moon, except it's massively more common, so much so that for every 1m square patch of soil of a depth of about 40cm, there's enough hydrogen to make 50 liters of water. To produce it all you need to do is collect the dirt, ideally the dust, and bake it at a bit over 1000C, and water vapor is produced.

This basically means the poles of the Moon are IRRELEVANT to industrializing & colonizing the Moon, and what actually matters is the ability to transport huge amounts of cargo to the Moon to get as much industry up and running as fast as possible, which Starship will let us fo better than anyone else. Americans stay winning, and once we win the Moon, it'll be permanent.

Anonymous No. 16348044

>>16348034
>Relativity Space
lol
anyway
Stoke's the only one with a similar ideological drive to Spacex built into their corporate culture. They're shooting for 100% reusability out of the gate and are shamelessly adopting key moves from Spacex (stainless steel for manufacturing ease, among others) while throwing in their own twist on second stage recovery. RL has started growing oldspace barnacles, and Blorigin was always there. It's a matter of linear-progression attitude versus exponential-progression attitude, and Stoke is the only one that seems to have the latter.

Anonymous No. 16348045

Janny killed like 30 threads and now we are close to 1000 posts on just a regular ass no news thread.

Anonymous No. 16348047

>>16348044
Stoke has the drive but their rocket is going to be solidly in the small lift category unless expended.

The niche for non rideshare small payloads is tiny and saturated.

Anonymous No. 16348049

>>16348047
Stoke's rocket is scalable, especially the second stage engine+heatshield - just make the pumps bigger and add more nozzles. Hobbitlab's wacky decisions on Neutron mean they would have to start a 3rd gen design nearly from scratch.

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Anonymous No. 16348052

>>16348044
>RL has started growing oldspace barnacles
How so? They've been moving pretty fast with Neutron and made this monster.

Anonymous No. 16348053

>>16348047
You are a retarded proonter. Even if the market is saturated NOW, full reuse will put them in a class of their own for the speed and price they can offer their customers that will easily outcompete other partial or no reuse rockets. The market wont be saturated at that point as they would be the most obvious choice for any small payload customers.

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Anonymous No. 16348054

who wants to fuck me?

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Anonymous No. 16348057

>launch people into space
>don't need to bring them back
Space just got a whole lot cheaper.

Anonymous No. 16348058

>>16348049
RL shot themselves in the foot. Neutron should have had the ability to throw a [future] booster under it to convert it to an even more powerful rocket
But the stupid ass carbon fiber design means it will never be anything more than a booster with an expendable second stage
If they want something heavier they need to do a brand new rocket from scratch

Anonymous No. 16348059

>>16348040
bake meaning break down the silicates to extract the oxygen from them?
the poles would still have constant sunlight which is useful and constant communication with satellites on earth

Anonymous No. 16348060

>>16348040
LunarCHADS stay winning. I wonder what the surprise reservoir of carbon will be. Every time someone looks a little harder at the moon they find more carbon, I'm convinced that it's actually abundant and we just don't know where to look for it yet.
Also what's the accumulation rate on hydrogen? I wonder if you could designate like a 10-mile-wide track around the entire moon that nuclear trawler/processors could slowly trundle around and continuously produce abundant water for the whole population.

Anonymous No. 16348062

>>16348054
Troon with monkeypox in the doghouse, yuck

Anonymous No. 16348063

>>16348047
Think personnel transport rather than satellite payloads

Anonymous No. 16348064

>>16348057
second pic should read "barren shithole, 4.5 lightyears from the nearest Urf government"

Anonymous No. 16348065

>>16348060
>I wonder what the surprise reservoir of carbon will be
We will throw lifeless chink and russian bodies into the ISRU vat after bloody conquest

Anonymous No. 16348075

>>16348059
>the poles would still have constant sunlight which is useful and constant communication with satellites on earth
They're also a hypernigger to actually land on due to the plane changes required from TLI, so we'll eventually build lunar surface infrastructure to optimize for landing sites near the equator and comm relay towers at the poles.

Anonymous No. 16348076

>>16348059
No literally just heat it, to 1200 C I think. The hot hydrogen reacts with the iron oxides & pulls the oxygen away, I presume.
Constant sunlight is okay if you don't mind being entirely confined to one (1) crater rim. If we want the Moon we need to build on the Maria, which means we need megawatt-scale nuclear reactors for the Moon. Could also use solar & storage solutions, like batteries (expensive) and fuel cells (scalable based on how big your hydrolox storage is, also can endlessly reuse the water obviously).

Anonymous No. 16348082

GET THE FUCK IN HERE!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6itLTHfJXdw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6itLTHfJXdw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6itLTHfJXdw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6itLTHfJXdw

Anonymous No. 16348085

>>16348082
tendertoe or common sense schizo?

Anonymous No. 16348087

>>16348082
not spaceflight

Anonymous No. 16348093

>>16348052
Their ambition is waning, they're publicly traded (a disaster), Archimedes only started testing this year, Neutron will forever be mired in carbon fiber problems because "we know how to work with it already," and the Neutron program doesn't have anything even resembling a rocket or a completed stage right now.

Anonymous No. 16348095

>>16348060
Well find carbon in the original, un-impact-processed crust of the Moon, just gotta dig deep enough. Worst case scenario we will drill 100km borehole wells & run hot oxygen down & capture the upwelling water vapor and CO2, want more carbon drill more holes. Works for mining sulfur and other volatiles too btw.
>what's the accumulation rate on hydrogen
Very slow, think of it like oil on Earth, we'll use it way faster than it regenerates but it won't matter. As the Moon runs out of dust-water the value of water will go up & the other colonies in the outer solar system will see a market for their infinite supply of ice. Thus there will be a large transportation network between the Moon and the outer asteroid belt, at minimum, and maybe further out depending on whether we have fusion propulsion yet.

Anonymous No. 16348097

>>16348075
>plane changes required from TLI
t. has never played Ksp lol
You don't need to do any plane changes to enter the Moon's sphere of influence on a polar orbital plane.

Anonymous No. 16348100

>>16348082
I do not care about the whinings of a languishing academic.

Anonymous No. 16348104

>>16348053
Stoke will still be more expensive than rideshares meaning their customer base is almost entirely the handful that can't wait for a rideshare due to operational costs.

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Anonymous No. 16348106

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1828523488745005122

Anonymous No. 16348107

>>16348082
this makes me want to live in usa

Anonymous No. 16348110

>>16348095
I'm willing to bet there are underground reservoirs of water on the Moon because they seem to be fucking everywhere else in the solar system too.

Anonymous No. 16348111

>>16348107
Visit the USA if you haven’t, it’s beautiful

Anonymous No. 16348119

>>16348082
I hate this retarded dysgenic faggot. I've never actually watched his videos but he has an annoying weasel voice, the only people who like him are redditors, and he's commited the cardnial sin; shit on people who are actually trying to do something. Why attack Musk all day if he's our only chance of getting off this rock? Everybody else seemed perfectly content wallowing in their own shit before he rocked the boat.

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Anonymous No. 16348120

>>16348106
130 direct to cell satellites already

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Anonymous No. 16348124

>>16348120
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1828527049541108055

Anonymous No. 16348126

>>16348082
I see there is some bonus degrowth stuff there. Not even mentioning the possibility of building new infrastructure to desal and pump water into the river. Nah the richest state in the US can't afford it.

Anonymous No. 16348127

>>16348045
>regular thread
>Boeing fucking up NASA crew transport while SpaceX spares the resources to send civilians on a historic orbit
The schadenfreude from the last few days alone is enough to fuel a NERVA engine to get us to mars

Anonymous No. 16348131

>>16347827
>>16347849
>he doesn't know about unicode emoji characters

Anonymous No. 16348132

>>16348040
The water from common regolith trick lets you build a mass driver at the equator. It's very good news.

Anonymous No. 16348134

>>16348132
why would you need water for mass drivers?
cooling?

Anonymous No. 16348136

>>16348124
What’s crazy is we are now at a point where it’s not even that much of a stretch of the imagination to see where someone could soon get a neuralink implant and be able to ping for help anywhere on the planet.
Imagine explaining that to someone in the 40s or 50s. Hell even explaining that to someone in the 90s or 00s. Telepathically communicate over cyberspace no matter where you are. It would seem like larpy sci-fi magic

Anonymous No. 16348137

>>16348136
straight out of Ian M Banks Culture series lol

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Anonymous No. 16348142

>>16348082

LOL at your Appeal to Authority:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderf00t

Anonymous No. 16348144

>>16348134
No, for the operational personnel and export to L2

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Anonymous No. 16348146

My favorite iteration is three legs + stainless steel + transpiring cooling

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Anonymous No. 16348151

Ugly ho
https://x.com/blueorigin/status/1828532073784901655

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Anonymous No. 16348153

The Americans are colonizing the moon just so they can build even bigger parking lots, aren't they.

Anonymous No. 16348154

>>16348151
HELLO MATE

Anonymous No. 16348155

>>16348153
The Moon is already basically one giant parking lot except it's bumpy and gives you cancer.

Anonymous No. 16348156

>>16348151
The engine section will stay poo brown. Also thanks for making an australian joke Blue, you must be used to being down under

Anonymous No. 16348157

>>16348124
based

Anonymous No. 16348159

>>16348082
thunder sisters.... our response??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86NjizfRGyk

Anonymous No. 16348160

>>16348151
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81FGVh1dj0A

Anonymous No. 16348163

>>16348159
>your taxpayer m..

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Anonymous No. 16348164

>OH MY SCIENCE IS THAT THE 327TH ROCKET MOTOR???
Watching rocket motors is gay and stupid.

Anonymous No. 16348166

>>16348164
Proud of yourself after posting that one?

Anonymous No. 16348167

>>16348164
this dude needs to wash his hair

Anonymous No. 16348169

Cost plus contracts will be the sole killers of the Artemis program.

Anonymous No. 16348170

>>16348164
Fucking disgusting oily flesh mass

Anonymous No. 16348171

>>16348169
The point of the Artemis program was to procure out cost plus contracts so it’s going swimmingly, actually

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Anonymous No. 16348173

>>16348153
BASED
Manifest Destiny just beginning, friends.

Anonymous No. 16348174

>>16348151
>47 days out with no engines on the vehicle
is that a normal pace?

Anonymous No. 16348176

>>16348174
bezos said they can miss the launch window by years

Anonymous No. 16348178

>>16348173
Why are you acting like such a homosexual?

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Anonymous No. 16348180

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1828531047686119596

Anonymous No. 16348181

>>16348178
>wanting to spread american civilization
>homosexual
I don't follow.

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Anonymous No. 16348186

>>16348180
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/08/nasas-second-large-launch-tower-has-gotten-stupidly-expensive/
>To make a 2028 launch date for this mission, NASA said it needs to have the ML-2 tower completed by November 2026. Both NASA and the new report agree that there is a zero percent chance of this happening. Accordingly, if the Artemis IV mission uses the upgraded version of the SLS rocket, it almost certainly will not launch until mid-2029 at the earliest.

Anonymous No. 16348187

>>16348178
Low T response

Anonymous No. 16348192

>>16348186
holy shit the government is so inefficient. spacex built a second tower in a few weeks and they cant even do it in years

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Anonymous No. 16348193

https://x.com/CJHandmer/status/1828537532969295967

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Anonymous No. 16348197

https://x.com/Alexphysics13/status/1828468440379650213

Bechtel is absolutely retarded

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Anonymous No. 16348199

https://x.com/thetimellis/status/1828514446152761749

Anonymous No. 16348211

about 6.5h until SpaceX Polaris Dawn stream starts

Anonymous No. 16348214

>>16347740
Total Contractor Win

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Anonymous No. 16348229

>>16348151
https://x.com/davill/status/1828540583196930370

Anonymous No. 16348231

>SCRUBBED AGAIN
more like polaris yawn amiright

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Anonymous No. 16348232

>>16348231
are you trying to bamboozle me?

Anonymous No. 16348233

https://x.com/tobyliiiiiiiiii/status/1828520774120153597

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Anonymous No. 16348235

https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1828493462544494740

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_fyMaO1wkk
>Polaris Dawn astronauts to attempt historic first commercial spacewalk, Starlink demonstration

interview with the crew, I doubt it has any new info though

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Anonymous No. 16348237

>>16348180
>>16348186
Cancel SLS
Defund NASA
Sell all Cape Canaveral real estate to SpaceX
Total Big Government Death.

Anonymous No. 16348246

>>16347998
>its both his companies
Retard

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Anonymous No. 16348255

what went wrong with boeing that they cant even into space now?

Anonymous No. 16348256

>>16348231
im kinda hoping for a bit of hot Polaris Porn

Anonymous No. 16348259

>>16348229
Limp is a billion times better than Bob Smith, but what Blue Origin needs is a megaautist who is always teetering on violating ITAR, sharing info on a day to day basis.
Limp is open but he only disseminates information like this after BO posts it. Sort of like a
>oh shit social media guy posted! I’ll give my input too!
Comes across as him trying to play catch-up. You’re the skipper dude, you need to be on the ball about this.

Anonymous No. 16348264

>>16348259
at least he seems competent, might be able to get BO to actually launch something to orbit

Anonymous No. 16348266

>>16348178
Sit down little lady

Anonymous No. 16348270

>>16348181
America has established the norm where mocking homosexuals has social penalties therefore America is gay

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Anonymous No. 16348273

>>16348231
Not this time.

Anonymous No. 16348277

>>16348264
Yeah he’s only been there a short while but he’s on-loaded a bunch of Amazon people—specifically really important people who could translate their skills well. Off the top of my head: a chief of supply chain, a person who specializes in contracts and customer relations, I think he fired the guy in charge of upper management and brought in some old amazon chick.
I don’t know what the fuck Bob Smith did besides collect a paycheck. Limp seems to be leveraging Bezos’ assets to get the ball rolling so I can only tip my hat. I still think Blue Origin is gay though lmao

Anonymous No. 16348293

>>16348255
>pic
Fun fact: The tire that blew up wasn't mounted on a plane at the time.

Anonymous No. 16348294

>>16348255
Not to defend Boeing, but this could be equal incompetence being shown by the airline. They're the ones in charge of maintenance.

Anonymous No. 16348295

>>16348255
Hahaha two people died so funny!

Anonymous No. 16348299

>>16348270
Get off of social media and touch the earth and grass.

Anonymous No. 16348307

>>16348192
tbf spacex's is mostly off-the-shelf compared to the pork barrel overpriced 12 companies on this tower alone BS

Anonymous No. 16348310

>>16348295
Who were they and what were they doing? If a couple of safety-oblivious idiots were trying to fill a tire with inappropriate equipment at an inappropriate place, it could be funny, maybe.

Anonymous No. 16348314

>>16345424
Shartliner will NEVER reenter. Permanent space debris. This is all according to plan.

Anonymous No. 16348315

>making rockets
>making satellites
>making space suits
When are they going to start making habitats?

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Anonymous No. 16348321

>>16348315
Officially? Artemis VIII which, considering everything keeps getting delayed and kicked further down the road, let’s comfortably say 2040 if it even survives

Anonymous No. 16348326

>>16348321
why even bother when you can just pay SX for an extra permanent Starship hab that will offer a million times more pressurized volume for 1/1000th the cost

Anonymous No. 16348337

>>16348310
It's just Indian engagement farming capitalizing on tragedy, can we kill all third worlders yet?

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Anonymous No. 16348339

>>16348273
kek that's a different flying safe

Anonymous No. 16348341

>>16348255
>Atlanta
NNNNNNNNNNNN

Anonymous No. 16348342

>>16348339
>Flying economy
>Not even premium economy
why are youtubers so poor

Anonymous No. 16348345

>>16348342
Last I checked his main job is at Apple, hence why he lives in san fran, and he isn’t allowed to talk about what he does because it’s a higher-up job. I think he directly codes shit for iOS or something lol

Anonymous No. 16348349

>>16348197
SpaceX was the other customer...

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Anonymous No. 16348352

>>16348294
Boeing doesn't make the tire or do the maintenance.

Anonymous No. 16348355

New Blue: Launch 1is launching in one month. What are you excited to for launch on Blue New rocket?

Anonymous No. 16348360

>>16348345
even more pathetic

Anonymous No. 16348362

Good morning sirs

Anonymous No. 16348365

>>16348339
>Flying economy
>Not even his own plane

Anonymous No. 16348367

>>16347840
He is the devil's gas
The White Man uses argon

Anonymous No. 16348370

>>16348151
poo blue

Anonymous No. 16348373

>>16348337
If nothing else I damn well favor banning most of Asia from the Western internet.

Anonymous No. 16348375

>>16347615
I've docked using nothing but main propulsion before, that'll put real hair on your chest

Anonymous No. 16348377

>>16348373
Some of the china shitpost content that makes its way to our side of the internet is actually funny

Anonymous No. 16348382

>>16348377
The small quotient of funny is not worth the cost.

Anonymous No. 16348386

>>16348314
If it doesn't come off of that port, it will be very hard to de-orbit ISS.
Or maybe that's the plam.

Anonymous No. 16348388

>>16348367
the red man uses neon

Anonymous No. 16348397

>>16348321
>Lunar Relay
Is someone actually going to ask Congress to pay for a commsat around the moon

And actually expect it to be approved

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Anonymous No. 16348398

USA semiquincentennial (250th bday) is in 2026.
The bicentennial celebrated around 1976 had a great and timeless logo designed by the guy who also created the NASA worm.
I hope we get a cool semiquincentennial logo and throw it on rockets, especially if Artemis launches are happening (kind of doubtful, Orion heat shield might fuck this all up but I won’t blackpill)

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Anonymous No. 16348418

>>16348398

>I hope we get a cool semiquincentennial logo

We did not.

Anonymous No. 16348420

>>16347974
Protocol is to eat the Chinaman first

Anonymous No. 16348421

>>16348082
They just can't give up on hyperloop

Anonymous No. 16348422

>>16348418
that America font is nice but these amorphous curves in every logo have got to go

Anonymous No. 16348426

>>16348136
The 21st century took a while to get going but finally it's here

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Anonymous No. 16348427

>>16348398
speaking of which, SLS livery fucking sucks. Worm on the SRBs makes no sense. Orion is a cluserfuck.
Saturn V had aura with "UNITED STATES" and "USA" running down the rocket. SLS needs a refresh (aside from needing to be outright cancelled lol)

Anonymous No. 16348430

>>16348427
You need to have ESA on there somewhere or the eurotrash will get mad

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Anonymous No. 16348431

>>16348427

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Anonymous No. 16348432

>>16348427
>>16348431

Anonymous No. 16348434

>>16348427
>Aura
Are you old enough to post on 4chan

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16348436

>>16348427
SLS should look like this

Anonymous No. 16348437

>>16348398
Nice negative space on the star

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Anonymous No. 16348441

>>16348432

Anonymous No. 16348444

>>16348124
More anti Darwinism, lame. You should get naturally selected out of the gene pool if you are relying on a shitty goyphone rather than a proper EPIRB beacon.

Anonymous No. 16348450

>>16348040
>1m^2 × .4m = .4m^3 = 400L
>50L water ÷ 400L regolith = 1/8 water
That seems a bit high.

Anonymous No. 16348452

>>16348397
Lockmart

Anonymous No. 16348453

>>16348430
Europoors being mad is good.

Anonymous No. 16348454

>>16348040
This agrees with findings published back in November suggesting hydrogen was trapped in the regolith: https://phys.org/news/2023-11-hydrogen-lunar-samples-resource-availability.html

I personally think it's a bit overblown to say "there's water in them thar hills!" based on samples from two locations. It's definitely something Artemis III should be looking at.

Anonymous No. 16348455

>>16348453
Maybe if we get them mad enough they'll cancel their shitty service module

Anonymous No. 16348456

>>16348452
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Telecommunications_Orbiter

Anonymous No. 16348460

>>16348450
It's made of aluminum oxide, and has been basking in the solar wind for billions of years so it's loaded with hydrogen

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Anonymous No. 16348464

>>16348427
>Saturn V had aura with "UNITED STATES" and "USA" running down the rocket.
thiiiis, seeing that is so fucking kino

Anonymous No. 16348465

>>16348456
HOWEVER
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Cube_One

Anonymous No. 16348466

>>16348464
Saturn V was so sexo it’s unreal

Anonymous No. 16348505

IT'S SO FUCKING OVER OH MY GOD

WOW

FUUUUCK

Anonymous No. 16348508

Scrub Dawn

Anonymous No. 16348509

it's over

Anonymous No. 16348510

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1828616363071676482
How are we supposed to go to Mars if it rains all the time?

Anonymous No. 16348511

rain proof rockets fucking when

Anonymous No. 16348512

REMOVE ATMOSPHERE

Anonymous No. 16348513

>>16348231
I was just memeing wtf

Anonymous No. 16348514

>>16348512
>>16348511
>>16348509
>>16348508
>>16348505
The fuck are you doing?

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Anonymous No. 16348516

>>16348510
Screenie for anti-Xitter schizos

Anonymous No. 16348517

>poolaris yawn

Anonymous No. 16348518

>2 day scrub at least

JFMSU

Anonymous No. 16348519

>i-is that a heckin wave
>S-STAND DOWN

Anonymous No. 16348520

>a little rain?
>some clouds
>gentle breeze
That's a scrub.

Anonymous No. 16348523

how long can they occupy 39a until the next mission

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Anonymous No. 16348528

remove atmosphere

Anonymous No. 16348529

>helium scrub
>splashdown weather scrub
>(2 days)
>rains over the pad
>messes up some GSE
>GSE scrub
>suddenly hurricane (peak hurricane season)
>week scrub

Welcome to scrubtember, strap in we're going nowhere

Anonymous No. 16348530

>>16348528
Yes, from the EARTH

Anonymous No. 16348535

>Our launch criteria are heavily constrained by forecasted splashdown weather conditions. With no ISS rendezvous and limited life support consumables, we must be absolutely sure of reentry weather before launching.

Anonymous No. 16348539

>>16348529
>>16348535
Thanks for scheduling this during the most dogshit time of the year for rockets, Mr. Isaacman. Very cool.

Anonymous No. 16348553

an new /sfg/ has stage'd
>>16348552
>>16348552
>>16348552
>>16348552
>>16348552
>>16348552

Anonymous No. 16348555

>>16348553
God dammit anon

Anonymous No. 16348556

>>16348553
why bother, nothing happening in space

Anonymous No. 16348557

>>16348553
faggot

Anonymous No. 16348561

stage it

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Anonymous No. 16348564

>>16348555
>>16348557
>>16348556
we're on page 10, why the sperg out? Is it his image selection?

Anonymous No. 16348565

>>16348564
I’m not normally an editonfag but yeah it’s the fucking low effort image

Anonymous No. 16348570

>>16348561
ABORT
ABORT
ABORT

Anonymous No. 16348572

An anomaly has been detected in this thread's quick-disconnect system, as a result tonight's staging has been scrubbed.

Anonymous No. 16348578

Our team is reviewing the thread data to determine the cause of the anomaly, we want to thank you for tuning into /sci/ tonight, and we will be ending the thread at this time.

Anonymous No. 16348587

>>16348572
>>16348578
lil bro thinks he's funny :skull:

Anonymous No. 16348595

>>16348556
>OIG report on ML2.7b
>slow glenn updates
>scrub dawn
all this in the past 12 hours

Anonymous No. 16348598

is someone baking a real thread?

Anonymous No. 16348604

>>16348598
just use the shitty /pol/chud thread, it's the posts inside that really count

Anonymous No. 16348631

>>16348553

How many days have you lurked in here just so you could /pol/ the next general?

Anonymous No. 16348634

>>16348631
2 weeks

Anonymous No. 16348672

>>16348273
>suddenly niggers
>and they have guns
Very spooky

Anonymous No. 16348886

>>16348339
>naming an airline for a sexual act

Anonymous No. 16349145

>>16348110
Oh yeah I agree totally. The Moon will have a hydrated mantle just like Earth, even if it has no deep subsurface aquifers.