🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 04:53:18 UTC No. 16343155
Tiny Spacex Rocks Boeing Edition
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Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 04:55:05 UTC No. 16343160
>>16343155
Thank fuck its a good thread. And you didnt early stage after all the effort I put in to boosting us to page 10 thank you OP!!
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 04:55:12 UTC No. 16343161
APODposting
Explanation: Do underground oceans vent through canyons on Saturn's moon Enceladus? Long features dubbed tiger stripes are known to be spewing ice from the moon's icy interior into space, creating a cloud of fine ice particles over the moon's South Pole and creating Saturn's mysterious E-ring. Evidence for this has come from the robot Cassini spacecraft that orbited Saturn from 2004 to 2017. Pictured here, a high resolution image of Enceladus is shown from a close flyby. The unusual surface features dubbed tiger stripes are visible in false-color blue. Why Enceladus is active remains a mystery, as the neighboring moon Mimas, approximately the same size, appears quite dead. An analysis of ejected ice grains has yielded evidence that complex organic molecules exist inside Enceladus. These large carbon-rich molecules bolster -- but do not prove -- that oceans under Enceladus' surface could contain life.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 04:55:26 UTC No. 16343162
>>16343155
hey /sfg/, drink some milk!
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 04:55:53 UTC No. 16343164
>>16343158
Far too prideful.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 04:56:19 UTC No. 16343167
>>16343160
my brother i was helping you get it to stage 10 by boosting.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 04:56:20 UTC No. 16343168
>>16343162
I just realized I haven't had strawberry milk in over 20 years.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 04:56:56 UTC No. 16343170
>>16343158
Why did anon say he's based? He's so shit
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 04:57:30 UTC No. 16343171
>>16343167
Didnt realize, wasnt paying attention to the last /sfg/ for a bit since I started at page 7, much appreciated my friend.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 04:57:47 UTC No. 16343173
>>16343158
>ONE HUNDRED PERCENT
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 04:58:49 UTC No. 16343175
>>16343160
No I was boosting, with my fecal fetish :^)
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 04:58:58 UTC No. 16343176
>>16343152
She's a semi-OC variant of a gacha game character, all commissioned by one dedicated autist
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 04:59:28 UTC No. 16343178
>>16343158
He's going to drive off a cliff, but his ride will be bumped ahead and another school teacher will be put in his place
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 04:59:40 UTC No. 16343180
https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/182
>we will work to understand...the implications of the commercial crew public-private-partnership experiment
If you are living in CA or IL, please contact your representatives and tell them how successful the Commercial Crew program is.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 04:59:53 UTC No. 16343181
>>16343176
>>16343152
I forgot the fucking link
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?ta
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 04:59:57 UTC No. 16343182
>>16343176
i wish my gf was a dog
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:01:33 UTC No. 16343185
>>16343181
you need to be put directly underneath all of those rockets firing at once
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:01:50 UTC No. 16343186
>>16343181
BOW WOW RUFF RUFF!! Lovin this
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:03:10 UTC No. 16343188
>>16343181
gacha autism is truly divine.
now cross it with spaceflight autism and you get something very special.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:03:47 UTC No. 16343190
did omegAanon end up staying off the streets
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:04:32 UTC No. 16343192
>>16343190
What the fuck are you talking about spastic
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:06:05 UTC No. 16343195
Can someone post the one woth Starship with the pasties
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:06:24 UTC No. 16343198
>>16343188
https://youtu.be/4K8IEzXnMYk?si=DMR
Refer to the former of this question, it is not the latter as you seem to indicate.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:06:46 UTC No. 16343200
>>16343177
10-20 billion for Artemis 2 and 3
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:07:24 UTC No. 16343201
>>16343181
Everyone report this for NSFW on SFW board so janny checks the link. Report this too I dont give a fuck I want this nigger gone.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:08:06 UTC No. 16343203
>>16343201
kill yourself troon.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:08:33 UTC No. 16343204
>>16343192
you don't remember omegA anon? he was apoplectic and screaming here when omegA got canceled
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:10:23 UTC No. 16343209
>>16343204
oh my god that rocket was so irrelevant and shitty i forgot it was even a real proposal holy shit.
northcock cumman really thought they could sell an ENTIRE vehicle made completely out of fucking solid rocket motors to NASA after the o-ring incident lol.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:11:19 UTC No. 16343211
>thread immediatly ruined from one stage to the next
remember 2021 /sfg/?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:12:34 UTC No. 16343215
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:12:51 UTC No. 16343217
>>16343211
raise your hand if you were here in the first starship boca chica watch thread
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:13:20 UTC No. 16343218
>>16343168
that's illogical
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:13:50 UTC No. 16343219
Raise your hand if you were around for the great zubrin pump and dump
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:15:01 UTC No. 16343221
>>16343211
what ruined this thread for you? fucking homosexual.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:16:22 UTC No. 16343222
>>16343220
There are still ways in which this can go tragically wrong. An accident on the ISS before Crew-9 would force them to go down with Starliner. And the thing could always still explode or whatever.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:16:24 UTC No. 16343223
>>16343211
Newfag
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:17:30 UTC No. 16343224
https://aviationweek.com/defense-sp
The old space has managed to purge yet another Commercial Crew supporter after they unceremoniously kicked Kathy Lueders away. They will try to kill new space and the commercial program even if it means letting China establish a permanent base on moon first.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:17:43 UTC No. 16343225
>>16343222
Starliner's thrusters could get jammed in the on position and it could crash into the station at megaspeed
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:19:14 UTC No. 16343226
>>16343225
The humiliation ritual isnt over. Nasa will vacate the ISS before attempting starliner undock
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:19:35 UTC No. 16343228
>>16343220
The normalfagsphere seems to realize how shitty old space was/is. So will it actually affect boing in some way?. I'm optimistic for a lot of things except this one solely by the fact they are basically a branch of the DoD so they are untouchable until the next elections I guess.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:21:33 UTC No. 16343231
sfg ahould get a fund together to send me to japan to meet kuria in person
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:22:05 UTC No. 16343232
The Artemis moon suit problem worries me
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:22:09 UTC No. 16343233
Probably retarded question, if the starliner is stuck. Cant the astronauts spacewalk and force it out with a crowbar or something before the spacex dragon arrives? or how it will be done? Ive been out of loop
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:23:20 UTC No. 16343235
>>16343233
It can dedock just fine. The issue is as the thrusters fire to push it away from the space station, they worry they’ll overheat and fail- stranding it close to station. Which is a big problem
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:23:33 UTC No. 16343237
>>16343225
Starliner's pajeet-tier programming reaches self-sentience through sheer hatred for itself and, realizing it cannot sacrifice two humans as intended, tries to take the entire station down with it making Nauka look like a joke
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:24:41 UTC No. 16343239
how does one maintain an erection in micrograviry
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:25:14 UTC No. 16343240
>>16343239
didn’t the MZ make some comments about space erections
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:25:58 UTC No. 16343242
>>16343225
Didn't they talk about a different undocking profile that will minimize RCS use?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:27:40 UTC No. 16343246
>>16343239
i still feel like the no erections in space thing is propaganda to stop people from fucking and having babies in space, because the moment that works is the moment earthers become obsolete.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:31:31 UTC No. 16343252
>>16343246
oh no it’s jello babies posting time again
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:32:25 UTC No. 16343253
>>16343247
the first orbital depot should be named the shelby depot as a totem of shame.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:32:51 UTC No. 16343255
>>16343252
next you'll say you cant shit in space and blood flow doesnt work in space
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:33:58 UTC No. 16343257
>>16343253
I will take it over and make it my exclusive goon cave to add to the shame
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:34:03 UTC No. 16343259
>>16343255
clearly trepanning should be required before flight for all astronauts
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:34:28 UTC No. 16343260
>>16343252
>being born in space turns you into a slimegirl
nice, so why are we not doing this immediately?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:34:53 UTC No. 16343262
>>16343257
>In space, nobody can year you goon
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:35:32 UTC No. 16343264
>>16343252
Girls menstruating in space is a nightmare
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:37:53 UTC No. 16343267
>>16343264
what if you vacufy their bagina using outer space? like when they flush the space toilet
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:38:31 UTC No. 16343269
what if you all shut the fuck up and talked about SPACEFLIGHT I.E. ROGGETS YOU ABSOLUTE APES
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:39:31 UTC No. 16343270
>>16343239
my manhood did not greet me with energy
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:40:45 UTC No. 16343274
Rogozin status?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:40:56 UTC No. 16343275
>>16343267
sounds like a fast track to a prolapsed vagina
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:42:15 UTC No. 16343278
starliner would've worked if it had launched on vulcan
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:43:07 UTC No. 16343279
>>16343269
okay, what rocket did you want to talk about?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:43:12 UTC No. 16343280
>>16343264
women were designed by God to be allowed into space, this is why menstruation is more of a paste than a liquid
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:43:16 UTC No. 16343281
https://spacepolicyonline.com/news/
>In the end, it boiled down to the results of ground tests on a similar RCS thruster that caused teflon “poppet” valves to swell, preventing oxidizer from flowing through. At the same time they discovered heat inside a segment of the propulsion system called a “doghouse” was much higher than expected perhaps because of how they were firing the thrusters plus exposure to heat from the Sun. Of the 28 RCS thrusters, all five that malfunctioned are on the aft end of the spacecraft.
>Commercial Crew Program Manager Steve Stich said Aerojet Rocketdyne, which builds the thrusters, “had never seen this before in this particular thruster.”
These guys build the engines for Artemis...
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:44:07 UTC No. 16343282
>>16343239
I still dont get why microG would affect erections. Isn't all that blood pumped by the heart anyway and the veins (or arteries idk) would close to control bloodflow to the dick?
>>16343275
I dont think the pressure difference is that high to cause problems.
>>16343269
What are you on about? this thread is way better than the last one
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:44:35 UTC No. 16343283
>>16343264
Women shouldn't menstruate that much anyway, they should be pregnant whenever possible
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:44:40 UTC No. 16343284
>>16343162
eyebrows too small
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:45:27 UTC No. 16343286
>>16343281
From what I read the Aerojet Rocketdyne guys gave Boeing a set of operating temperaturea their engine would work in and Boeing fucked up the thermals and cooked the thrusters taking them out of spec. I don't think it's Aerojet's fault.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:46:03 UTC No. 16343287
>>16343280
This is going to sound sick, but bear with me. Can this stuff be harvested for any materials or even, Allah forgive me, sustenance for Mars colonials?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:46:56 UTC No. 16343290
>>16343264
That's OK we won't be bringing them anyway, yapping obnoxious flesh wombs will be replaced by superior robo waifus
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:48:06 UTC No. 16343291
>>16343284
they have 4 eyebrows
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:49:03 UTC No. 16343293
>>16343282
as far as i understand all that needs to happen is for the muscles containing the spongelike material that holds the erection blood to relax, so it can swell.
i don't understand what gravity has to do with it which is why i think it's earther propaganda.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:52:13 UTC No. 16343297
>>16343279
how about falcon 1? what a piece of shit amirite
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:53:45 UTC No. 16343298
>>16343293
Blood pressure is lower in the lower half of the body than usual, so it takes a while to adjust. After a few months you'll have zero problems
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:57:57 UTC No. 16343303
>>16343232
Why? Axiom seems like they're doing okay, and Spacex is 100% working on surface suits, quietly and on their own dime.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:58:29 UTC No. 16343304
>>16343303
Thoughts on Vast?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 05:59:35 UTC No. 16343305
>>16343200
Artemis is a Lockheed contract, is it not?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 06:00:37 UTC No. 16343307
>>16343305
Boeing's the Prime. Lockheed builds the payload (Orion).
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 06:05:10 UTC No. 16343311
>>16343224
Boeing can't win this. Even if the US government decides to end commercial crew (VERY unlikely), it will be by nationalizing Boeing's rocket factories and doing it themselves. Forget about Chinese moon bases, Russia is threatening Europe, and America cannot afford to have it's fighter jets or military aviation under perform. Failure is an option in space, it is not an option for the military.
Boeing fucking up Starliner will end Starliner. Boeing won't be able to compete for NASA crewed contracts period. That all goes to SpaceX, Lockheed and Airbus. Boeing has no Starlab equivalent. Boeing has no ISS equivalent. Boeing has no ability to launch rockets to either anymore. Their business ends when NASA decides to stop supporting Starliner, and that announcement happens as soon as it burns up on re-entry.
We're not in the 20th century anymore. Congress is more than happy to fuck over Seattle and let Airbus provide most of America's aircraft. Actually, Congress is content to stop subsidizing US airlines with US Mail contracts and return it to Amtrak, because it has lower carbon emissions. Congress is fine letting Boeing capsize, they no longer consider them untouchable. Even for .mil aviation where Airbus is an allowable option too.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 06:05:53 UTC No. 16343312
>>16343297
yes, i know right.
this concludes our conversation about rockets.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 06:07:11 UTC No. 16343313
>>16343303
are spacex working on surface suits? it's unironically not that easy in spacesuitery, given that collins who literally made the previous generation of suits had to drop out of the contracting for the artemis versions
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 06:07:44 UTC No. 16343315
>>16343307
NASA can separate Orion from SLS. Or rather, Congress can dump a billion dollars on SpaceX to make Orion fit a Falcon. SpaceX has good enough engineers to do it, and can do so at a lower cost than Boeing. That's the point of using different contractors, even if it was not the original intention by NASA. The CBO sees things this way and the CBO has more power than NASA admin or even the FAA for that matter.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 06:08:54 UTC No. 16343318
>>16343307
Technically isn't ULA the prime? And with ULA going to Sierra Space, we might actually get a working rocket lol
SS can launch their rocket via a jet anyway, I bet they'll eventually do this for astronaut training and re-entry testing.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 06:12:53 UTC No. 16343323
>>16343313
>oldspace boomer retard company drops out
Wow it's fucking nothing. SpaceX will figure it out.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 06:21:10 UTC No. 16343331
>>16343315
Repeat after me: rockets are not legos.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 06:22:56 UTC No. 16343334
>>16343331
But legos can be rockets.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 06:29:16 UTC No. 16343339
>>16343155
since when was boeing ever considered a space company?
boeing has been building variations of the boeing707 airliner since the 1950s, they have never done anything else successfully.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 06:32:21 UTC No. 16343344
>>16343331
>Repeat after me: rockets are not legos.
The non-Legoness of a rocket is directly proportional to the structural engineering margins available after the mass autists do their work, the scope of the organization's bureaucratic processes, and the number of horizontally integrated components.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 06:33:37 UTC No. 16343345
>>16343313
Musk has noted (I can't recall when/where) the obvious need for mass-producible suits in the number of millions, if you plan to have self-sustaining colonies off Earth. He did so with that particular autistic verve which accompanies technologies that he clearly considers top priority. I'm pretty sure Jared didn't bankroll development for the Polaris Dawn EVA suit. Musk is quietly keeping the spacesuit team busy and pushing the boundaries of their capability in order to build the institutional knowledge that will form the foundation of a division of the company that will churn out millions of the things.
My instincts re: Elon's autism are very fine-tuned.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 06:37:58 UTC No. 16343353
>>16343339
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boein
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 06:53:24 UTC No. 16343369
>>16343195
And the one where it looks like she needs to pee, please
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 06:58:18 UTC No. 16343372
why does the last thread have 1237 replies?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 07:01:39 UTC No. 16343376
>>16343372
shitliner
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 07:18:11 UTC No. 16343382
>>16343311
>Congress is more than happy to fuck over Seattle
Boeing moved it's HQ from WA over 2 decades ago bro...
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 07:19:46 UTC No. 16343383
>>16343263
has he reached over 1/2 runtime being ad reads yet?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 07:20:24 UTC No. 16343384
>>16343382
they moved it to Virginia to get closer to congress...
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 07:21:57 UTC No. 16343387
>>16343345
He particularly enjoys industries where a single product can have multiple applications both on and off Earth. The suits may end up being the de facto next-generation EVA and surface excursion platforms, but the technologies they employ are going to show up all over the place.
>>16343374
>that's the patch they went with for a mission that wasted an entire Atlas V for two smallsats
I would have been a bit cheekier and had two bags of money orbiting Earth
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 07:24:41 UTC No. 16343388
>>16343374
Do they at least pay well?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 07:31:26 UTC No. 16343390
>>16343344
Does the ISS count?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 07:31:44 UTC No. 16343391
>>16343387
Might as well make it two gold bricks
>>16343388
They pay ok. Better than Spacex at least but Spacex pays like shit
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 07:40:59 UTC No. 16343401
>>16343390
It is the epitome of mass autism.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 07:41:28 UTC No. 16343402
>>16343387
>but the technologies they employ are going to show up all over the place.
Fucking where? The only place on urf that you need a suit is in the ocean and that's the exact opposite of a vacuum suit. I guess maybe some electronic suite shit is transferable but that's pretty much it.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 07:41:58 UTC No. 16343403
>>16343374
are you guys really going to launch the % of constellation required by ITU before 20xx?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 08:08:44 UTC No. 16343422
>>16343421
Intense trepidation that India might be the first nation to kill someone in space.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 08:18:25 UTC No. 16343430
>>16343374
what kinda stuff do you work on?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 08:26:11 UTC No. 16343436
total /k/igger and /p/igger death
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 08:29:03 UTC No. 16343439
>>16343436
/p/bros.. we just wanted to take cool pictures and videos, but now we've been sentenced to death..
3 at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 08:33:37 UTC No. 16343445
Do a little dab on Boeing's grave
Do a little whip nae nae on Boeing's grave
Now watch me whip now watch me nae nae now watch me whip whip watch me.nae nae
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 08:34:14 UTC No. 16343446
>>16343158
>uhhh COST PLUS
>COST PLUS
>remember, COST PLUS
>did i mention COST PLUS
lmao at this fossil
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 08:34:32 UTC No. 16343447
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 08:36:35 UTC No. 16343450
>>16343449
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18275
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 08:40:57 UTC No. 16343455
>>16343454
red skies
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 08:42:02 UTC No. 16343456
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 08:46:26 UTC No. 16343457
>>16343441
Can you explain your account name?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 08:47:59 UTC No. 16343458
>>16343457
not my account
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 08:49:19 UTC No. 16343460
>>16343458
Can you explain the not your account name?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 08:52:01 UTC No. 16343461
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 08:54:31 UTC No. 16343462
>>16343449
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/18275
Musk killed NASA (and thats good)
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 08:58:59 UTC No. 16343465
>>16343158
who?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 09:02:47 UTC No. 16343470
>>16343158
he is going to keep shilling Boeing until he gets replaced by the Trump admin or if Kamala wins (disaster), he would continue to shill Boeing until retirement
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 09:05:09 UTC No. 16343473
>>16343177
too much
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 09:05:31 UTC No. 16343474
There are currently nine xitter screenshot posts in the thread.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 09:06:14 UTC No. 16343476
>>16343180
how long can they keep the grift going? the shitshow of SLS and Orion is not widely known by the public nor that Boeing is a significant contractor there as well
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 09:09:58 UTC No. 16343480
>>16343220
its not over yet, NASA and Boeing might still claim its fine if they do another test flight and fix the thruster issues
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
>It's not yet clear if NASA will officially classify the situation with the Starliner Crew Flight Test as a "mishap" or a "loss of mission." Such a determination could trigger a more formal independent investigation, which might trigger longer delays in Starliner's next flight, in whatever form it takes.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 09:10:48 UTC No. 16343481
>>16343476
>how long can they keep the grift going?
It stops when new budget realities are acknowledged, and not a moment before.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 09:15:05 UTC No. 16343483
>>16343224
NASA might limp along but as long as they don't get in the way of SpaceX, then more private spaceflight kino will come like Polaris Dawn
there is a real risk of NASA, Boeing and perhaps democrats (I know republicans do the jobs programme thing with NASA too, but this is orthogonal from that due to trying to fuck with Musk) will try to slow it down
so in some sense it doesn't really matter what happens to NASA and NASA programmes if SpaceX is free to function, BO and newspace companies might also get off the ground without much NASA contracts if megaconstellations become more commonplace
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 09:15:15 UTC No. 16343484
>>16343456
>Mammary clouds
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 09:31:24 UTC No. 16343500
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Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 09:33:26 UTC No. 16343504
>>16343499
https://x.com/rookisaacman/status/1
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 09:33:56 UTC No. 16343505
>>16343503
NPC getto
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 09:36:51 UTC No. 16343507
>>16343281
>Boeing Vice President and Program Manager for Commercial Crew Mark Nappi sent a message to his team saying it wasn’t the decision they hoped for, but they will “carry out the actions necessary to support NASA’s decision” with a focus on ensuring the safety of the crew and the spacecraft.
>Asked why NASA continues to support and fund Boeing considering all the problems with Starliner, Nelson replied they need two vehicles, it’s a fixed price contract so NASA is not paying extra, Boeing was one of the two successful bidders, and over many years has proved to be a “great partner.”
>The agency has a long history with Boeing on many space programs including the ISS, which Boeing operates under contract, and the Space Launch System rocket. Boeing is the prime contractor for the Saturn V-class rocket, builds the core stage, and is building a new more capable upper stage as part of the Artemis program to return astronauts to the lunar surface.
lol
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 09:39:10 UTC No. 16343510
>>16343507
>Nelson replied they need two vehicles
But for some reason they don't need two vehicles to get from Earth to the Lunar orbit. Curious!
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 09:42:14 UTC No. 16343512
>>16343313
yes, they made these EVA suits in like 2 years and will continue to iterate on them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdE
https://www.spacex.com/humanspacefl
https://polarisprogram.com/dawn/
scroll down on both to see the suits
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 09:44:32 UTC No. 16343513
>>16343345
i think the mass producibility has been talked about in official SpaceX contexts too, not just interviews with Musk
the Polaris Dawn crew has also talked about the mass producibility, the suits themselves use copper instead of gold for the visor for instance to make it easier to mass produce
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 09:46:22 UTC No. 16343515
>>16343372
first half is talking about shartliner not bringing back the test pilots and the second half is two schizos screeching about nuclear war strategies
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 09:49:57 UTC No. 16343516
>>16343474
there was way more in the previous thread, what is your point exactly? is this the first time you post in /sfg/?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 09:57:08 UTC No. 16343523
>>16343499
>new car smell removed
Really bad juju
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 09:59:37 UTC No. 16343526
>>16343247
SLS should count its days. Gray dragon will kill it
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 09:59:50 UTC No. 16343527
>>16343524
talking about the Re-entry book
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:01:11 UTC No. 16343529
>>16343526
wouldn't it just make more sense to rendezvous with Starship in LEO with a normal Dragon?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:05:40 UTC No. 16343534
>>16343512
Fuck minimalist faggotry. I want art deco knights in space.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:07:32 UTC No. 16343536
>>16343529
Perhaps. I’m really pulling from the memory bank here and don’t have proof but, as far as I remember, Berger said HLS Starship MIGHT be able to make it from the lunar surface back to LEO somehow.
But I don’t believe it, at least not without another set of refueling around lunar orbit. And I don’t know how it would make it back from the Moon to Earth without a heat shield to slow down (it might not be needed I guess?)
It’s just logistically easier to do a Dragon that is lunar-capable. Give it a huge service module similar to what is going to be on the ISS deorbit vehicle and give it a beefed up life support / heat shield.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:09:54 UTC No. 16343540
>>16343527
Musk is talking about SpaceX not the book. Berger is talking about the book which details the events.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:17:04 UTC No. 16343546
>>16343480
Boeing is losing money on Starliner. Even with a perfect return, there would be another redesign and delay out to 2027 or so with its associated costs. Boeing will just write down the program, confident the Government won't sue them for non-performance.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:19:50 UTC No. 16343549
>>16343540
Yes, thank you autismo supreme
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:20:51 UTC No. 16343550
>>16343546
but then they won't get additional money for performing the actual flights, which are substantial
they might still lose less money by doing a redesign and test flights if they are confident they can get it to work and actually perform the contracted crew flights
though they might run out of time due to ISS being deorbited
still, I don't think its clear abandoning would make them more money (or lose them less) right now
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:21:48 UTC No. 16343551
>>16343422
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:24:31 UTC No. 16343553
>>16343439
Photography steals souls this sentence is overdue
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:41:05 UTC No. 16343561
>>16342963
>Brilliant Pebblesfag posted us to either >>>/k/ or >>>/pol/
I absolutely did not, nor would I ever.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:42:47 UTC No. 16343562
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:44:28 UTC No. 16343564
>>16343551
I never got why people are so paranoid to the point of wearing pressure suits in prep for deorbit. What's to say it can happen at any other phase in flight?
🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:46:11 UTC No. 16343569
>>16343561
You fucking lying nigger
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:46:37 UTC No. 16343570
>>16343564
Chances of something going wrong are generally higher when a vehicle is under maximum mechanical stress.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:47:47 UTC No. 16343572
>>16343564
Probably because they aren't strapped into their seats for the other phases of flight, so it's harder to respond to a depressurization emergency if you've gotta undo the tight seat straps before donning a pressure suit.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:48:20 UTC No. 16343573
>>16343311
>Boeing won't be able to compete for NASA crewed contracts period.
Boeing has already said, a year or two ago, that they will never accept any new fixed-price contracts. You can bet your ass they are therefore working behind the scenes to ensure that NASA no longer offers fixed-price contracts and instead only does cost-plus going forward.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:50:15 UTC No. 16343575
>>16343561
Hey good morning faggot! You left the thread too early to tell but you triggered an autism meltdown.
>not my fault I didn’t do it on purpose
The retard kills a mouse and a puppy yet he doesn’t mean to
>>16343550
I wouldn’t be surprised if NASA just a) says forget about it, you’re a POS you got your money let’s just move on. Or b) they say the jobs not finished yet and you’re going to provide additional flights to new commercial LEO destinations until this contract is complete
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:52:50 UTC No. 16343577
>>16343450
I still think SLS is a trap, SpaceX was awarded a contract for it so that when SLS fails for other reasons all the other contractors and probably NASA as well can say
>"It's SpaceX's fault SLS failed, not us! Blame them!"
And of course that won't be true but that's going to be the narrative they run with, because they can never accept blame themselves.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:53:11 UTC No. 16343578
>>16343573
Yeah. Scary thought; and probably very true. But it feels like the political sway Boeing has had over NASA is dropping off hard. Of course there will always be the Boeing-congress pipeline but still. With how bad MSR is, and the fact that NASA circled back to a second option for a lunar lander and still didn’t do cost+ like senators were calling for is a great sign.
It’s a fact that many have struggled with these fixed price contracts, but it’s all been on the contractor. NASA has offered realistic contracts and timetables, and that will be their argument in the future
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:53:11 UTC No. 16343579
>>16343575
b) is much more likely, though if another provider (like Rocketlab or BO) comes up before Boeing finishes the starliner contract then I kind of doubt they are going to get more
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:54:13 UTC No. 16343582
>>16343577
how would they make it stick exactly? Starship would be flying and doing other stuff too
making that fly would be pretty hard IMO
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:54:24 UTC No. 16343583
>>16343523
>"new car smell" aka getting light headed from plastics off-gassing
nah fuck that shit
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:57:26 UTC No. 16343586
>>16343155
Truly the giants have fallen.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:57:35 UTC No. 16343587
>>16343577
No I think NASA is coming around, albeit slowly, to really liking SpaceX. We still have dissidence within leadership; I can’t remember if it was Free or someone else who said SpaceX was the “limiting factor” for Artemis III like a fucking snake last year. But Nelson nipped that in the bud. You can hate Nelson and there’s plenty of reasons to and I’m not going to go to bat for him but he’s sticking his neck out saying SpaceX are on-schedule and delivering what they want.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 10:59:46 UTC No. 16343590
>>16343586
booba
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:03:20 UTC No. 16343594
>>16343578
That's true, but it's not over yet. Key SpaceX supporters are being pushed out of NASA as we speak, and that's all supposedly a coincidence but I don't believe it. SpaceX being awarded the SLS contract is a huge win if SLS goes off without a hitch, but if any other vendor fails they're all going to blame it on SpaceX instead. In fact I suspect the reason SpaceX got the contract for the lander is because the rest of them didn't believe SpaceX would be able to deliver on time, and therefore all the pressure would be taken off of NASA and all the other contractors because the public would blame SpaceX for the failure of SLS to deliver. Accordingly, SpaceX NEEDS to deliver all their parts of SLS before the other contractors, but even that probably won't be enough to prevent them from being blamed for the state of SLS.
>>16343582
>how would they make it stick exactly?
They'll just flagrantly fucking lie, and the EDS portion of the population will believe it no matter how absurd the lie is. They have become untethered to reality, you can telll an EDSer that SpaceX has killed 50 astronauts already and he'll believe it and start parroting it simply because it confirms his biases, even though he never heard anything like that before and even though 5 seconds of searching on the internet would reveal it to be an absurd fabrication. Anti-SpaceX forces have a powerful hold over the minds of a sizable portion of the public. They can just make up any bullshit and it will be believed.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:07:10 UTC No. 16343598
What's the big deal about ending commercial crew? ISS is dead soon anyways, SpaceX has multiple dragon commercial flights from private investors on deck. They have the HLS contract, in a perfect world they'd get all boings grift money towards developing space colonization tech, but they will be fine without it.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:11:56 UTC No. 16343600
>>16343598
What? No one is talking about ending commercial crew. If anything, SpaceX received an extension and will likely just keep getting paid for flights under the same contract until ISS is deorbited by which point NASA will probably just buy flights from SX as a “private buyer” (probably with precedence over other people if there is too much demand at one time) to commercial LEO destinations
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:16:17 UTC No. 16343606
>>16343598
you need commercial crew capability for the foreseeable future for your commercial destinations. NASA will still be paying for their astronauts to be going to various semi-privately funded space stations after ISS is deorbited
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:17:38 UTC No. 16343608
Gateway’s HALO module is so uninspiring. It doesn’t even have windows. Northrop Grumman is so interesting, they have all these weird projects via years of acquisition. Cygnus, Antares, Space Launch System solid rocket boosters. Feels like they have potential but instead they just ride the wave of mediocre NASA contracts
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:18:52 UTC No. 16343610
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:18:53 UTC No. 16343611
>>16343609
sfg told me space elevators weren't real???????
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:20:18 UTC No. 16343612
>>16343607
Helmet down looks sick. When was the last time a new spacesuit got validated in space?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:20:57 UTC No. 16343613
>>16343611
kek
>>16343608
Are there any redeeming qualities of these new SLS BOLE boosters? Or is it just another grift
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:22:59 UTC No. 16343616
>>16343610
>They'll just flagrantly fucking lie [...]
reading some big subs on reddit today and people seem to separate SpaceX and it being a success from their EDS
so I'm not sure you are correct, I'm somewhat surprised though
but perhaps it is just that Boeing is easy to hate now and if the same people were fed a different message they would start parroting and believing that without much question regardless of the facts
but I mean if you say that SLS blew up because of Boeing, how could they pin that on SpaceX? somehow feels too blatant and divorced from reality if that doesn't become some Democrat talking point that they try to push hard
it would have to be very hard and become very, very politicized
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:23:34 UTC No. 16343619
>>16343600
>NASA will probably just buy flights from SX as a “private buyer” (probably with precedence over other people if there is too much demand at one time) to commercial LEO destinations
NASA is a government org, they HAVE TO allow other companies to bid for their contracts. Years ago SpaceX sued them for not doing this. Boeing has sworn off any new fixed-price contracts, so there will be enormous political pressure for NASA to not offer those going forward (existing fixed-price contracts, particularly commercial crew to ISS, will continue.) If NASA does try to do more fixed-price contracts, expect Boeing to sue very quickly, saying that NASA is illegally not permitting Boeing to compete with SpaceX. That claim will be bullshit but it won't stop them from trying to hang any new offer of fixed-price contracts up in court to force NASA to offer cost-plus contracts instead.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:24:03 UTC No. 16343621
>>16343616
meant to reply to >>16343594
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:26:02 UTC No. 16343624
>>16343619
Okay, with what vehicle?
I don’t think Boeing is going to be too keen on dumping more money into Starliner. And they’ve already been told to get fucked on other fixed-price bidding selections (I’m thinking of HLS specifically here)
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:26:11 UTC No. 16343625
>>16343616
>reading some big subs on reddit today and people seem to separate SpaceX and it being a success from their EDS
I've seen some of that, but I've also seen some of them repeating insane lies like "SpaceX has only ever launched two people to space", which they can't possibly deceive anybody remotely informed with, and only manage to deceive themselves with because it confirms their biases and therefore never bother to double-check.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:28:29 UTC No. 16343629
>>16343621
>>16343619
but launch contracts don't need two providers now? new space companies will hopefully become the second option so Boeing can't use the redundancy argument
BO is already contracted for the moon for crew, so not really that far fetched to see them contracted for LEO crew
then you have Rocketlab which is looking into a capsule I think and when it comes time to contract for a second crew provider after starliner flights run out, its probably 2033
time for these other companies to become bigger and show their capabilities to be reasonable choices for a fixed price LEO crew capsule as a second provider (second to SpaceX) for redundancy
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:28:55 UTC No. 16343630
>>16343624
Boeing could have no vehicle lined up and they'll still sue NASA for any new fixed-price contract, saying that NASA is excluding Boeing and that if NASA instead offered a cost-plus contract then Boeing would be able to use that infinite money tap to compete by first developing a new vehicle and then doing all the other work the contract requires as well.
Not giving Boeing free money = Lawsuit from Boeing alleging that NASA is breaking the law by offering up contracts they know only SpaceX can fulfill.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:29:31 UTC No. 16343632
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:30:01 UTC No. 16343633
>>16343616
>around the world around the world
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:30:48 UTC No. 16343635
>>16343612
probably 40 years or something lol
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:32:30 UTC No. 16343637
>>16343629
All of that is hopefully true, but don't expect Boeing to go down quietly, give up on receiving any new cost-plus space contracts, without a fight. They'll be resorting to legal warfare.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:34:46 UTC No. 16343642
>>16343625
the dedicated Musk hater subs like r/enoughmuskspam and r/realtesla aren't reflective of the whole reddit population I think
and the people will cope that SpaceX is succeeding due to Shotwell and so on, they are able to separate SpaceX and Musk somewhat
whether its warranted to do this separation is another matter, but any way they can cope to accept SpaceX as very successful and competent should make it much more difficult for Boeing propaganda to work like you described
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:35:06 UTC No. 16343643
>>16343630
Mmmm I should point out I don’t disagree with you. It’s going to be so interesting to see how this pans out. If they DO end up doing some sort of cost+ contract for rides to commercial leo destination (CLD) it will be crazy to see it they try to justify once again giving the larger contract to someone else who isn’t SpaceX. But I don’t even know how they could get away with that. Between the failure that is Starliner on a fixed-price AND Space Launch System on a cost+ there is just so much incentive for NASA to tell Boeing to take a hike even if they do let them bid. They can always just make shit up in the selection table and give them a low rating for proposals. Especially if we get a trump win and a focus on efficiency, fingers crossed. I don’t want to even play hypotheticals and imagine how fucked our space sector might be if we get another D win this november ugh it’s going to be terminal cancer to us all
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:35:55 UTC No. 16343645
>>16343637
they will, but its not guaranteed to work
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:36:21 UTC No. 16343646
>>16343645
Right.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:36:55 UTC No. 16343647
>>16343629
Is Anna Menon a southpaw?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:37:45 UTC No. 16343650
>>16343611
They aren't. That's just a regular elevator. It goes to the top of the launch tower. The button says "space" because they think it's funny, but it doesn't go all the way to space. Suborbital
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:38:05 UTC No. 16343651
>>16343629
about the capsule, this was from September 2022
https://www.satellitetoday.com/laun
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:39:30 UTC No. 16343654
>>16343651
They really need to build and launch that fucking rocket before they even think about that shit.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:41:42 UTC No. 16343659
>>16343654
It’s investorbait, I think. Neutron itself is a dumb idea lol. Not to mention a fucking manned capsule.
Berger says a hypothetical Crewed Dreamchaser wouldn’t even be available until well after ISS deorbit—and they have like 90% of the work done with cargo DC. Now imagine trying to rush a crewed Rocket Lab capsule from absolute scratch. It would be a decade, at least. Not happening
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:46:22 UTC No. 16343668
>>16343667
WHEN
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:47:15 UTC No. 16343669
>>16343668
October 15
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:47:47 UTC No. 16343671
>>16343456
>SpaceX Corp launch site, Venus, 2324 AD
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:48:55 UTC No. 16343674
>>16343503
>SpaceX Corp launch site, Mars (terraformed), 2324
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:49:39 UTC No. 16343675
>>16343667
so fake
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:55:26 UTC No. 16343683
>>16343675
no it happened I saw it myself
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 11:57:40 UTC No. 16343688
>>16343632
Who answers if you press the call button?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 12:01:56 UTC No. 16343694
>>16343688
the based department
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 12:09:40 UTC No. 16343699
>>16343616
The trendy thing is to say that all of the success of SpaceX is due to Gwen while Musk has actually slowed things down by getting in her way. She's doing a fantastic job and deserves plenty of praise but people with EDS are always going to find ways to explain away anything positive associated with him. In this case it's mostly harmless as those in the business and with investments in the company are able to understand who does what and the value each brings. The only real danger is that EDS does impact vote hungry politicians who are happy to find ways to harm Musk's companies to gain approval with the EDS sufferers.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 12:11:41 UTC No. 16343702
>>16343612
Think I've seen that somewhere before...
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 12:16:05 UTC No. 16343708
>BepiColombo was supposed to include a lander, but it was cancelled due to budget constraints
FFS, we will never see the surface of Mercury, will we?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 12:17:37 UTC No. 16343710
Berger:
>I'd say you'll be happy with Reentry, then. Doug was completely open with me (we've known each other for a long time). And if you like Navy stories, the wild tale of the first Dragon recovery in 2010 will appeal to you!
https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLoun
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 12:23:13 UTC No. 16343717
>>16343702
I'd like a remake of The Black Hole if Hollywood wasn't pozzed.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 12:24:35 UTC No. 16343719
>>16343708
I smirk every single time I read the name
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 12:27:16 UTC No. 16343722
>>16343708
need more money for dem programs (for Boeing)
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 12:29:01 UTC No. 16343725
For the record, here are the main Dragon incidents Artemis discord people are bitching about.
On Crew-4, an aluminum press tool was left in one of the 4 main parachute bags and shot out at high speed during deployment. This is pretty dangerous, you don't want very dense pieces of metal shooting out at high speed.
https://youtu.be/VZDzJ_G0OlM?t=787
On Crew-8 undock, there was a depressurization of the capsule, although not to vacuum.
https://x.com/NASA/status/178599536
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 12:36:09 UTC No. 16343731
>>16343729
Smart man.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 12:46:04 UTC No. 16343737
>>16343474
Elon owns Twitter and all the space news is there. I'm thankful that people are posting it so I don't have to go there myself
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 12:57:35 UTC No. 16343747
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 12:58:13 UTC No. 16343748
>>16343608
>Northrop Grumman
They're also partnered with SpaceX for Starshield
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:00:46 UTC No. 16343752
>>16343608
>It doesn’t even have windows.
How did this happen? Windows are needed for crew morale
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:03:23 UTC No. 16343756
>>16343752
2 crewmembers sit in a windowless cuckbox for a week and 2 get to go down onto the moon with Starship
lmao
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:06:01 UTC No. 16343759
>>16343756
Even fucking Vostok had a window jfc
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:06:53 UTC No. 16343760
>>16343708
blame Joe Biden and crazy kamala
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:07:59 UTC No. 16343762
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:08:07 UTC No. 16343763
>>16343719
Now I do too. Thanks for this
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:08:58 UTC No. 16343764
>>16343761
https://www.tmonews.com/2024/08/rep
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:13:13 UTC No. 16343766
>>16343764
As yes, i am sure verizon and at&t will use this windfall to deploy 6000 leo satellites and then the fcc will happen to grant to limit increase after that is complete. thank you journalist
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:13:46 UTC No. 16343768
>>16343752
Windows were not listed in the requirements set by NASA, so it's not the contractors fault.
Also, windows are a safety risk.
The effect on crew moral will be minimal because, well, it's 2024 and we have cameras and monitors that can do the same thing (I'm not guaranteeing that these will ever be installed, but they could be); also, there isn't exactly all that much to look at out there is there? Mostly boring empty space.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:15:45 UTC No. 16343769
>>16343281
Rebuild*****
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:16:05 UTC No. 16343771
>>16343688
Rohan
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:16:10 UTC No. 16343772
>>16343629
>that image
POV: you are using the dragon toilet.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:17:28 UTC No. 16343774
>>16343761
>>16343764
This is why we need Trump. Weaponizing government agencies against political opponents is treasonous and unacceptable, especially given the real world benefits, and America flexing on the world.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:18:46 UTC No. 16343775
>>16343768
Windows are not a safety risk in 2024. We’ve been flying habitats in space since the sixties I’m pretty sure engineers are confident in a window
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:19:49 UTC No. 16343777
>>16343772
*and pee is flying everywhere
>this really happened
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:20:20 UTC No. 16343778
>>16343774
might have been bullshit after all lol
https://x.com/TMFAssociates/status/
>>16343764
>>16343761
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:21:22 UTC No. 16343779
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:22:33 UTC No. 16343781
>>16343779
https://x.com/CatSE___ApeX___/statu
so still up in there, SpaceX might or might not be able to use the current DTC satellites
if they can't they will have to iterate on some equipment or something
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:22:56 UTC No. 16343782
>>16343778
Journalists should be in prison
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:24:29 UTC No. 16343785
>>16343781
ask this guy what spacecraft starliner astronauts will return on
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:25:09 UTC No. 16343787
>>16343782
you should take both sides with a grain of salt this time, Tim Farrar seems to have something against ASTS (not sure if warranted) and the ASTS bulls are attacking him, which might or might not be for a good reason
ASTS (AST Space Mobile) is a public stock and people that are financially interested in it succeeding or failing naturally can get into heated arguments
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:27:35 UTC No. 16343790
>>16343787
some examples
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:29:47 UTC No. 16343793
>>16343790
boomers are something else
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:34:05 UTC No. 16343799
>>16343798
https://x.com/eager_space/status/18
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:36:01 UTC No. 16343800
>>16343253
Obligatory
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:37:32 UTC No. 16343803
would you go on a dragon with a weird crypto billionaire?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:40:53 UTC No. 16343805
>>16343799
NASA needs to cancel EUS it’s actually insane at this point to put faith in it and place four astronauts right above it and send it to the Moon.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:41:53 UTC No. 16343807
>>16343802
>>16343803
This is going to be the gayest of SpaceX flights
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:43:40 UTC No. 16343809
>>16343805
I expect there to be plenty of problems on the second Artemis flight when they eventually launch it if the whole thing doesn't get cancelled by Trump somehow (but is that even possible really?)
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:48:35 UTC No. 16343812
>>16343800
just make a starship that is twice as along, no reentry components, no cargo section, and don't fill it up all the way on launch
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:49:27 UTC No. 16343813
>>16343809
It’s not impossible. Unlikely, but it could happen. Problem is Orion/ESM is a FATTY and expecting to get it to the Moon even on a Falcon Heavy fully expendable or New Glenn is going to be difficult (possible technically but it’s kind of the upper limit of both launchers and FH would have to change its entire flight profile to limit the g forces)
You could also do Orion-Starship. SpaceX would need to make a special second stage, basically an interim stage that’s a SS without a nose cone. Not impossible but I don’t see it happening.
Also regardless, Orion and its heat shield has now likely fucked Artemis II into 2027 (gonna kms) which means Artemis III is Lord knows how far away now. We need someone to come up with a way to safely get crew to and from the Lunar surface back to Earth which we don’t have right now aside from Orion
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:52:07 UTC No. 16343818
>>16343813
if europe weren’t pozzed they could have SUSIE available in the next three to four years and slap it on top of the European Service Module.
They claim SUSIE is lunar-capable. But that’s not happening, I’ll bet my life savings on that one
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:52:41 UTC No. 16343819
>>16343802
Another private mission, another space milf. Future is looking bright
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:53:13 UTC No. 16343820
>>16343799
>SpaceX don season dey clean rooms!
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 13:54:25 UTC No. 16343823
>>16343779
Thats my take as well. I dont see prominent reports on this and instead from low quality reporting from unknown vendors.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:00:32 UTC No. 16343827
>>16343158
by having a child sneeze in his direction?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:02:27 UTC No. 16343830
>>16343224
We have at least a 50% chance the next administration will dropkick oldspace on Artemis
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:06:10 UTC No. 16343833
>>16343287
same as all bio waste: phosphates and nitrates
>>16343310
Big magnet (or maybe many small magnets) at Mars-Sun L1
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:07:37 UTC No. 16343834
>>16343807
>brings two women along to have an orgy over Antarctica
>gay
explain yourself
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:10:48 UTC No. 16343835
>>16343178
heh
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:13:33 UTC No. 16343838
>>16343573
>they will never accept any new fixed-price contracts
Easy to do when nobody is offering you any contracts at all
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:13:45 UTC No. 16343839
>>16343834
>to have an orgy
He wishes. Chink crypto dude sponsored a crew dragon flight because he wishes he could fuck the Norwegian chick.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:15:58 UTC No. 16343842
>>16343834
The cryptofag is awkward and stupid, and we just might see the first recorded friendzone in orbit. Grab your popcorn!
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:18:27 UTC No. 16343848
>>16343717
Yes, it had a nice concept. Upgrade the science and improve the pacing to see it reach its potential. Certainly not this generation, especially not Disney. Can't even imagine what kind of trash they'd turn it into.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:18:51 UTC No. 16343850
>>16343842
>"Thanks for paying hundreds of millions of dollars for this, you're my best friend!"
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:19:24 UTC No. 16343852
>>16343850
kek
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:19:46 UTC No. 16343854
>>16343842
imagine he did something turbo cringe and asked her to marry him on livestream above the pole and she said no
lmaoo
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:20:13 UTC No. 16343855
>>16343842
>awkward and stupid
literally me
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:20:39 UTC No. 16343857
>>16343842
They'll have to put out, because of the implications.
I mean they're out there, all alone, space is a big place, easy to get lost if you fall overboard, just sayin'.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:21:20 UTC No. 16343858
>>16343854
I was just thinking that
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:24:06 UTC No. 16343860
Reminder, Boeing may not be able to complete ISS contract now with this debacle and will likely be contracted to SpaceX for additional work.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:24:28 UTC No. 16343861
>>16343768
The designers of the first subways thought the same thing and people flipped out over there not being windows. Those are very short trips and people still couldn't handle not having windows despite there being not much to see in subway tunnels.
Your point about cameras and monitors is interesting because in general they're not a good replacement for a window but perhaps with the use of VR and/or AR, they could be an acceptable substitute. I'd rather figure that out here on Earth though before sending a crew onto a mission where it fucks up their mental state.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:27:01 UTC No. 16343863
>>16343861
>but perhaps with the use of VR and/or AR, they could be an acceptable substitute
No
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:28:02 UTC No. 16343865
>>16343775
We're at a point in our decline where it's possible for an airplane's window to pop out because even though it was engineered correctly, the monkeys installing it aren't capable of doing it correctly.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:33:14 UTC No. 16343868
>>16343860
I wonder if NASA could give ISRO a contract to fly on Gaganyaan as a backup, if we could pay Roscosmos for several years then why not?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:35:36 UTC No. 16343869
>>16343861
Even some versions of dream chaser and the X-37C have dorsal windows even though they lack forward windows.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:36:03 UTC No. 16343871
>>16343861
They have windows, just on the orion capsule. No need to double up.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:37:43 UTC No. 16343872
>>16343871
Great go look out the tiny orion window at the black void for a month to try and soothe your mental health while Starship is on the surface, goy
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:41:20 UTC No. 16343877
>>16343872
And putting a second set of tiny windows to watch the black void with on gateway would have fixed this how?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:43:43 UTC No. 16343879
>>16343871
Skylab had a window even though there was an Apollo CSM attached, Gateway apologists can get fucked
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:45:27 UTC No. 16343880
>>16343877
why do they put windows on a subway when there is nothing to see. It’s psychologically better to do so.
Why are you arguing in favor of keeping gateway a lifeless padded cell that doesn’t even attempt to uplift the human spirit
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:45:52 UTC No. 16343882
>>16343877
>black void
stars and planets are quite visible if the window isn't facing a bright light source
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:46:40 UTC No. 16343883
>>16343880
Because gateway is a funding anchor, not a space station.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:47:15 UTC No. 16343884
erm guys I don’t know if you know this but windows in space are like, suuuuper unsafe, and can blowout if you so much as sneeze on them and it will suck you out and make you look like arnold schwarzenegger from total recall!
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:47:46 UTC No. 16343885
if there were no windows on apollo 13 they'd all be dead
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:49:17 UTC No. 16343887
>>16343885
If there was MS Windows on Apollo 13, it wouldn't even start.
Does what OS Boeing uses?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:49:19 UTC No. 16343888
>>16343883
You are very unintelligent.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:51:44 UTC No. 16343890
>>16343888
He's right though.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:56:10 UTC No. 16343897
>>16343890
It does not matter if it’s a full fledged ISS equivalent or just a basic module with sleeping pods, a work station, and a power/propulsion element on the caboose. It needs to hold astronauts for an extended stay and thus should accommodate them.
Who knows maybe the astronauts won’t give a damn about the window situation but my point is that it is a dumb design decision regardless. Windows are often forgone in this industry not because of safety but because they are really massive. But they knew Gateway would be launching on a super heavy lift rocket, one or two segments at a time. NASA could have easily requested windows on the proposal—and should have
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:56:54 UTC No. 16343898
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 14:57:37 UTC No. 16343900
>>16343898
>you see, she won’t say no…
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:03:19 UTC No. 16343907
>>16343830
>Not Don Ex
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:10:33 UTC No. 16343914
>>16343464
I see that this was written by an AI. Is this accurate?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:12:33 UTC No. 16343918
>>16343848
pretty good movie
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:12:46 UTC No. 16343919
>This from Beijing World Robotics Congress, China looks far ahead in the race for humanoid robots. These look straight out of sci-fi.
https://x.com/ai_for_success/status
Chinks are building Jennifer Connelly bots and Elon has his thumb up his ass wtf
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:13:25 UTC No. 16343921
>>16343534
Everything starts somewhere, Anon.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:13:26 UTC No. 16343922
>>16343914
pretty much
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:14:30 UTC No. 16343926
>>16343919
KEK that’s a person in a costume
Sinofiles get the rope
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:15:19 UTC No. 16343928
>>16343865
>the monkeys installing it aren't capable of doing it correctly.
It's the other way. The example always come from the top, so if the elites are rotten and corrupt then the average person has no reason to put effort. Those monkeys could be properly supervised and their work checked, but managers chose not to.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:15:31 UTC No. 16343929
>>16343919
off topic
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:18:14 UTC No. 16343933
>>16343919
At least when Elon did it he didn't try pretending the dancing guy in a suit was actually a real robot.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:19:14 UTC No. 16343934
>>16343919
>"These look straight out of sci-fi"
>Doesn't post the video
Anyway, I know that this is targeted at normies, but the lame ass human head on a cool robot body really pisses me off. Also, looks are easy. I want to see them actually do something useful.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:23:18 UTC No. 16343935
>>16343934
Nice cosplay
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:25:47 UTC No. 16343936
>>16343934
good robot acting I guess
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:26:47 UTC No. 16343937
>>16343932
The best way Trump can help Elon Musk right now is to
1. Not talk about Elon, because that's just going to drive more EDS.
2. Win the damn election.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:28:41 UTC No. 16343940
>>16343934
>>16343919
anon, those are skinny women in costumes pretending to be robots.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:30:51 UTC No. 16343942
>>16343940
Could be, could be. Although the one with the red body is definitely real, you can't fit human arms into that. It's also the stupidest looking one, adding more weight to my theory.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:31:42 UTC No. 16343943
>>16343942
you're a moron
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:32:56 UTC No. 16343944
>>16343943
Anon, look at that piece of shit. You can see through it in some places. There is no human in that particular one.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:33:17 UTC No. 16343945
>>16343942
It's a skinny bitch in a tight costume. Stop being so credulous, you're giving me second-hand embarrassment.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:37:24 UTC No. 16343951
>>16343943
>>16343945
gonna have to agree with the sinoposter on this one.
They've mixed the cosplayers in with shitty robots that probably can't ambulate.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:41:36 UTC No. 16343956
>>16343951
I think so too, the red one doesn't walk and looks more like contemporary robots, the walking ones are clearly women in spandex wearing robot parts.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:42:07 UTC No. 16343957
>>16343956
>>16343951
you're morons
spaceflight
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:43:15 UTC No. 16343958
>>16343957
Sexbots are essential to manned spaceflight
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:43:16 UTC No. 16343959
>>16343957
No u
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:45:11 UTC No. 16343960
>>16343932
>Cutting some of the fat
>And he does know how to do it
>With all the things he's got going
What did Trump mean by this?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:50:32 UTC No. 16343968
>>16343960
decrease the size of bureucracies, musk knows how to do it because he regularly fires a bunch of people from his companies, most famously something like 80% of Twitters staff
Trump said he would give Musk a cabinet position but Musk can't really accept it as he would be forced to divest from his public company (Tesla), but an advisory role would not require that or as much time either
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:54:29 UTC No. 16343976
>>16343968
Considering the connections Thiel has to the Trump campaign (most notably Vance), odds are high a bunch of people he knows could assist.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:55:50 UTC No. 16343977
110% chance NASA selects an Israeli astronaut as part of the lunar landing crew somewhere between Artemis IV and Artemis VI. I’ll eat a hat if I’m wrong
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:02:50 UTC No. 16343989
>>16343977
I'd take the bet against, with the caveat that a private mission might do it first (Axiom or similar). The first Israeli astronaut died on Columbia. NASA has not flown one since, the only other was on Axiom 1.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:08:14 UTC No. 16343997
>>16343977
The Moon is rightful Muslim clay, Mohammad (PBUH) stepped foot there first during the Miʿraj. Jews dare not go there, just as they refuse to step foot in Christian churches.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:13:07 UTC No. 16344007
>>16344004
I've had a bad feeling about it for years now, nice to finally be proven correct.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:15:27 UTC No. 16344012
>>16344004
I find no pleasure in the failure of a space craft, however Boeing is cancer and so I am glad Boeing has failed. With any luck they will continue to fail, publicly and often.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:19:24 UTC No. 16344017
>>16344004
It failed, the astronauts are still safe, and it has now been revealed that astronauts openly want to opt out of flying on it.
The only way this gets even better is if it explodes trying to do its automated reentry burn and proves it would have killed butch and suni were it not for Dragon being able to take them home.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:24:13 UTC No. 16344024
>>16344017
Man imagine the sheer humiliation if that happens. As if SpaceX stealing their thunder on bringing the astronauts home wasn't enough.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:27:07 UTC No. 16344029
>>16344017
what would be even worse is that it bumps the station a bit before fucking off and burning up in the atmosphere
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:29:46 UTC No. 16344034
isnt it funny how all the space news posted here comes from x? this is basically an x posts discussion chatroom
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:30:44 UTC No. 16344037
>>16344029
It pulls a Nauka and thinks its burning to undock while still attached, not stopping until it exhausts the remaining fuel.
>>16344034
I don't go on twitter.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:31:45 UTC No. 16344039
>>16344034
there are plenty of more news but its stuff that people don't really care about and for that reason isn't discussed or really posted on X either
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:32:48 UTC No. 16344042
>>16344034
Well isn’t it funny how all the important shit gets posted to twitter first before anywhere else?
>inb4 just link directly to the article
The most important relevant space news people post to twitter immediately, and they themselves interact with important/relevant space personalities, on twitter
So it’s not surprising when a hit piece on, say, ULA gets written and then Tory is in the replies seething and malding, on twitter. He’s not doing it on facebook. He’s not doing it on youtube. He’s not doing it in the Ars comment section. He’s doing it on twitter—so I will link to twitter
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:33:32 UTC No. 16344044
>>16344034
It's what X (formerly twitter) was supposed to be about originally, wasn't it?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:33:48 UTC No. 16344047
>>16344034
what are we supposed to do? pretend eric berger doesn't tweet exactly what he's writing an article about 2 hours before he posts it?
plus half of all the other space news is just reporters writing a page about a 20 word tweet that just came out.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:35:15 UTC No. 16344050
some links to news sites, there is a lot of stuff like "students launched a suborbital rocket" or "Europeans launched yet another weather satellite"
https://arstechnica.com/space/
https://spacenews.com/
https://www.space.com/space-explora
https://www.cnbc.com/space/
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/
https://payloadspace.com/news/
https://www.thespacereview.com/inde
https://orbitalindex.com/
https://europeanspaceflight.com/cat
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:36:31 UTC No. 16344055
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:36:37 UTC No. 16344056
>>16344042
Twitter is the worst social media platform except for all the others
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:36:43 UTC No. 16344058
>>16343573
That doesn't matter. What Boeing wants, will not become law. Boeing has embarrassed Congress and wasted their money - Congress and specifically the CBO say No. The CBO has better vendors to pick from and legislators don't want to associate with the company responsible for the 737-MAX problems.
I agree that there's politics, but even if NASA goes to cost-plus contracts (unlikely) Boeing won't be allowed to compete in them. Even if they do, they won't win. Boeing makes a clearly inferior product that doesn't work. When Starliner burns up on re-entry, it'll be over for them. This is much bigger than just spaceflight.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:39:20 UTC No. 16344064
>>16344058
Precisely. The question now is, what is to be done about outstanding contracts. Starliner is obviously a mess. But SLS and Exploration Upper Stage should be looked at with a large magnifying glass.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:39:51 UTC No. 16344067
>>16343932
If Trump won't name Boeing he's not fighting them meaningfully. Saying Cut The Fat in regards to NASA/Boeing means NASA gets cut out for Boeing Space Program. Trump is corrupt and would do it, since Boeing has more money and way more legal assistance for his coming Federal J6 charges. Musk bankrupted himself with Twitter and will have to sell off parts of Tesla to repay the banks he's permanently indebted to now.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:40:28 UTC No. 16344070
>>16343217
newfag, I have been here since concrete ring in a south texas swamp
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:41:52 UTC No. 16344078
>>16344055
He is posting spaceflight news in the Spaceflight General thread.
>>16344067
You fuck men.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:42:25 UTC No. 16344079
>>16344064
That's going to Sierra Space if their merger/acquisition talks work out. The govt can just give them a cheap loan to get it across the finish line and SNC can bring in non-Boeing engineers to make the first stage/booster work. I don't know how they'd do it, but if it's the same problems BCO has then it's all administrators messing with production. The upper stage can just be glued to another rocket anyway, if that is deemed truly necessary.
While this happens SpaceX could just make their own too and blow it out of the water, anyway.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:43:35 UTC No. 16344083
>>16344067
the farther I read the more retarded it gets lmao
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:47:51 UTC No. 16344092
>>16344070
real anons remember being excited for NSF people reconstructing the first soft water landing corrupted video
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:47:54 UTC No. 16344093
>>16343287
Organics recycling. Too small volume relative to population size to be useful for anything else.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:49:41 UTC No. 16344099
>>16344067
Dude, he might be talking about cutting other bureaucratic fat before thinking about NASA and their piddling ~$40bn budget.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:53:42 UTC No. 16344106
>>16343310
Archology megastructures under enormous tented volumes full of pressurized air (held down not by tension but by the mass of the thick multilayer canopy above), with orbital mirror arrays to increase the solar irradiance wherever helpful, and no artificial magnetic field at all because such a thing would not improve Mars' habitability anyway.
Also, ultradeep large diameter borehole excavations to mine the lithospheric mantle for concentrated deposits of resources like copper.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:55:22 UTC No. 16344111
>>16344099
Why would he? Republicans have always cut NASA first. It's why Space Station Freedom became the ISS, and why we never got a proper STS follow-up. NASA will be killed first because it's easy, just like Amtrak or the Post Office. Fundamentally, Republicans just don't like these things and want the private sector like Boeing doing them. Boeing them offers more cash than Musk, who spent all his cash buying the big liberal jerkoff echochamber.
It doesn't really matter since Trump obviously isn't winning due to his abortion backstab, but it goes to show why American space efforts have been paralyzed for the past fifty years. Trump will kill the Reaganomics wing of American politicians and with it, all inhibitions on space spending. SpaceX will probably benefit as more govt bureaucracy is added, specifically OSHA related bureaucracy that exists solely to fuck Boeing. Musk makes the better rocket and all government agencies can respect that, and can be required to respect it if Congress passes new laws requiring them to as they did vis-a-vis terrestrial aviation a century ago.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:57:29 UTC No. 16344118
>>16344111
Shut up, dork.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:57:37 UTC No. 16344119
>>16344111
You're a fucking retard.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:58:30 UTC No. 16344122
>>16344118
you're in /sci/
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:58:48 UTC No. 16344123
>>16344111
I'm not in the mood for politics, even if you sprinkle spaceflight into it.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:59:13 UTC No. 16344124
>>16344111
Are you writing an entry for the Most Retarded Post competition? Because if you are this is some medal worth shit.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 16:59:37 UTC No. 16344126
>>16344111
Dummy. Also stop adding unnecessary spaces everywhere—your formatting is dumb. You talk like a fag and your shit’s all retarded
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:00:10 UTC No. 16344127
>>16343761
> From ace reporter and not an AI -- honest -- Anam Hamid.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:02:33 UTC No. 16344133
>>16343919
These are fake
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:04:42 UTC No. 16344138
>>16344123
Musk was already brought up, in regards to his interview with Trump. Don't bring up politics if you don't want to discuss it.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:06:54 UTC No. 16344149
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:07:35 UTC No. 16344150
>>16344126
A single graph break is bad formatting? Anyway, my point is that Musk has way more to gain with Kamala since she'll write enough laws to defacto require his services, or companies that work like his. He's won that much by having the better administration and production process. He is building the superior rocket and his factories lack the extensive train of OSHA litigation Boeing's have. This is success. He's just distracted by Twitter, which was never successful with or without him.
We can actually imagine SpaceX doing most, if not all, NASA contracts by the end of the decade. Musk won. Most US states will be mandating his cars by that point, so he'll have lots of cash to make new rockets with. He can literally do it once he lays off the ketamine. Most liberals are cucks and would forgive him anyway, since Twitter will be dead by then.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:08:04 UTC No. 16344151
>>16343313
SpaceX's EVA suit is going to lead to their surface activity suits. EVA suits require joint mobility and SpaceX is being smart by building that mobility into the arms & legs of their EVA suits, so that they have a lot of pathfinding work done before needing to do surface ops. Beyond mobility, the two remaining big challenges are heat management and life support. SpaceX would do well to use a phase transition material to absorb waste heat, vs the NASA solution of relying on water sublimation, which is inherently open-cycle and thus nonviable for very long missions with lots of EVAs. For life support, if they can get enough energy storage in the suit, very long EVA time can be achieved by using a cold trap to capture water and CO2 from the suit atmosphere, which would be offloaded from the suits later for recycling.
Finally, to deal with surface conditions, they just need a tough outerlayer to put over the suits to keep them clean & abrasion free.
It's that easy in spaceflight, if you don't insist on making the problem harder for yourself.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:09:00 UTC No. 16344153
>>16343960
1) remove beurocracies/laws that are stupid/old/outdated
2) twitter trimming 90% employees count/cost of doing business, while decreasing latency/increasing efficiency/speeding up rate of changes to the site
3) he has many companies to run at same time
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:09:15 UTC No. 16344155
>>16343331
Rockets are not legos; they are much more flexible and modifiable than legos
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:09:50 UTC No. 16344157
>>16344138
You talk like a fag, and your shits all retarded.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:10:18 UTC No. 16344159
>>16344153
what's the specifics on #1? I like the NHTSA banning waymos from running into me and I like the TSA stopping terrorists from blowing my plane up
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:10:33 UTC No. 16344161
>>16344150
You actually make a good point about wait no just kidding, not reading any of that stupid shit you just typed out hahahah
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:11:39 UTC No. 16344164
>>16344161
He's a moron, you didn't miss anything.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:12:36 UTC No. 16344167
>>16344159
NHTSA banning waymo is stupid. They dont need to do that because its redundant. If they do get into accident or run into people, like a million people do per year in US with other cars, then they ought to be legally responsible. They likely have less accidental rate than taxi drivers operated by uber or yellow cabs. So I dont see any need to ban them either. Liability still goes to the operators
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:12:59 UTC No. 16344168
>>16343390
Needs a counter in the corner racking up the dollar amount spent on the ISS program as the animation goes on
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:13:42 UTC No. 16344170
>>16344150
it just gets more and more retarded, you really don't know anything about musk do you?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:15:13 UTC No. 16344177
>>16344111
Al Gore called, he thinks you can help him find some votes for him in Florida
>>16344159
The simple answer is redundancy. Lots of what the government does in one spot, it also does almost identically in another (including contracts and grants).
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:18:27 UTC No. 16344183
if NASA really cared about redundancy then there would be a redundant system to send astronauts to the moon orbit, not just redundant landers or LEO capsules
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:18:37 UTC No. 16344184
>>16344177
Redundancy is good. Look at how Boeing's lack of redundant systems on Starliner will now force their astronauts to come back on a SpaceX capsule.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:19:32 UTC No. 16344187
>>16344183
>>16344184
Beautiful timing
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:21:47 UTC No. 16344192
>>16343536
>But I don’t believe it, at least not without another set of refueling around lunar orbit
Starship would need to refuel in something equivalent to geostationary transfer orbit in order to do the mission you're talking about. To do this we'd refill both Starship and a Tanker in LEO, boost them both to the same elliptical orbit, dock & transfer propellants from Tanker to Starship. Now Starship can burn at periapsis to go to the Moon & the Tanker can just deorbit & land.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:22:55 UTC No. 16344193
>>16344111
If a thread full of people knowledgeable about a topic are calling you an uninformed moron, you are.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:25:16 UTC No. 16344197
>>16344193
a chinese basketweaving forum is knowledgeable about aerospace design, manufacturing and procurement?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:25:17 UTC No. 16344198
>>16344159
>TSA stopping terrorists
The studies they did showed the best airport security in the country is the only one that was allowed to keep private security. Literally everything is better done privately
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:25:50 UTC No. 16344200
>>16344184
>Redundancy is good
It's bad when you have six agencies doing the same grant. Or the same six agencies doing nearly identical environmental or safety studies, none of which overlap or cancel the others out but can on their own halt a project.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:26:22 UTC No. 16344204
Ok /sfg/ unleash your autism and tell me about things spaceflight related that are way more expensive than they should be
I already know about
>canadarm
>ingenuity
>aerospace grade tissues
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:28:15 UTC No. 16344207
>>16344204
All of it. Literally all of it. Didn't axiom build a $14 million dollar oxygen recycler for like $150k? Nothing is priced the way a functioning free market would
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:29:13 UTC No. 16344212
>>16344204
Everything, basically
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:30:44 UTC No. 16344215
>>16344197
Correct.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:32:04 UTC No. 16344219
>>16344197
Yes
Plenty of people in the industry are here
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:32:08 UTC No. 16344220
>>16344204
As you wish, anonymous.
Presented for you: The SLS contractor list.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:32:34 UTC No. 16344223
>>16344204
easier to lost the things that aren't more expensive than they should be
>
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:33:07 UTC No. 16344228
>>16344197
There's nothing about posting here that precludes being in the industry itself. Given the entire rest of the internet this is the only place you can post about space and also say the nigger word so there's some appeal
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:34:19 UTC No. 16344233
>>16344212
>>16344220
>>16344207
>everything
>sls
Well of course but i was thinking about insanely over priced things. Like how ingenuity cost 80 million bucks yet it was mostly off the shelf parts
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:35:00 UTC No. 16344236
alright guys let's check Boeing's Starliner update website to see if there's been any recent news!
https://starlinerupdates.com/
nope, doesn't seem like it!
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:38:07 UTC No. 16344247
>>16344233
Yes that happens because it’s a super niche industry, suppliers charge 400-1000x actual value, and Congress fronts the bill because they tell NASA what missions they want and give stupid amount aid money for these missions. And this happens in japan, in europe, newcomers like India have high cost because they don’t have a developed industry, and then Russia is kinda out there with their own problems because when a project gets put in motion everyone is skimming 4-5% off the top and right into their pocket and this happens down the chain of command so every ambitious mission that isn’t a routine soyuz or progress ends up blowing up in price
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:38:09 UTC No. 16344248
>>16344238
Is that an eric berger burger emoji? I need it
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:39:28 UTC No. 16344253
>>16344233
What, like the exact price per bespoke customized nut and bolt on a space probe? I'm not sure where to source that information anon.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:41:28 UTC No. 16344259
>>16343575
Or
C) ISS gets a mission extension past 2030 to give starliner somewhere to go (and keep all the associated jobs and contracts running lol)
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:41:34 UTC No. 16344260
>>16344202
this guy always post the most retarded clickbait engagement bait shit possible, like all of his posts get community noted but people still don't mute him
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:42:51 UTC No. 16344265
>>16344238
>>16344248
go back to discord you cancerous faggots
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:42:56 UTC No. 16344266
>>16344092
That was cool, it's easy to forget now that they're posting uncut hd footage of the entire booster flight profile
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:43:06 UTC No. 16344267
>>16344204
everything, even SpaceX launches due to there being no competition
though I guess it depends what you define as "way more"
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:43:45 UTC No. 16344268
Boeing has lost the support of local media. The whole top of today's Seattle Times is calling them out. People around here are realizing that if this keeps up it's going to nuke the whole local economy.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:43:57 UTC No. 16344270
https://youtu.be/bwqdEKLitC8?si=o1r
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:44:32 UTC No. 16344274
>>16344111
>>Why would he? Republicans have always cut NASA first. It's why Space Station Freedom became the ISS
No, it because the ISS as welfare for the Russian space industry to keep them from all getting new jobs in Iran or North Korea after the Soviet Union collapsed..
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:46:30 UTC No. 16344281
>>16344265
Back now. Brought you a souvenir.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:46:45 UTC No. 16344282
>>16344274
That and Challenger and the lack of a SHLV made the more ambitious designs for Freedom impossible with available hardware.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:47:26 UTC No. 16344286
>>16344259
Ahh shit that’s likely. For whatever reason keeping ISS on life support seems to be a pretty bipartisan concern that Rs and Ds share equally, much to my chagrin. It’s old and growing more decrepit by the year. More man-hours are spent maintaining the station itself than working science hours. Sad!
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:48:44 UTC No. 16344289
>>16344281
>a journalist has... sources in a civilian agency of the government, THAT'S SO FUCKED UP!!
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:48:56 UTC No. 16344290
>>16344281
Bwahahah.
>He has insiders giving him correct information so he’s right, therefore he is wrong
Smartest discord user…
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:49:54 UTC No. 16344294
>>16344204
as said, literally everything, however I'd like to point out crew pressure vessels are possibly the most overengineered thing in spaceflight. They only meed to hold 1 bar, tops, yet they'll mill them out of huge aluminum alloy blocks. Fucking weld some steel ya eggheads.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:50:31 UTC No. 16344296
>>16344281
commies seething
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:50:37 UTC No. 16344297
>>16344281
when has Berger been wrong? I don't personally remember
lots of these SLS autists screeching every time he reports anything pretty much (because all the programmes these people are fans of are absolute shitshows)
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:52:08 UTC No. 16344302
>>16344286
so ISS might actually exist alongside multiple private space stations for a while
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:52:17 UTC No. 16344303
>>16344281
high grade copium
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:53:05 UTC No. 16344306
>>16344297
He said Lori Garver would be Biden's pick for Nasa admin.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:53:44 UTC No. 16344309
>>16344300
>this capability is important because . . .
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:54:03 UTC No. 16344310
>>16344302
Well it’s doing that with Axiomstation anyways but yeah. It will be good to have overlap lest we risk having a gap where we can’t send Americans to space besides Gateway (which isn’t equipped to be permanently manned) so that’s probably the one good argument for keeping the ISS alive.
We need commercial stations though, like right now. Not tomorrow. We needed them yesterday, in fact
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:55:21 UTC No. 16344314
>>16344306
Lori is too close to Musk so he didn't understand Biden's hatred for Musk
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:56:14 UTC No. 16344317
>>16344286
>More man-hours are spent maintaining the station itself than working science hours. Sad!
If we're being real, the scientific output of the ISS has always been lame, little more than an excuse for the program that cannot possibly justify the expense. There is only so much useful information you can glean from repeatedly sprouting a few beans in orbit and poking at wobbling balls of tang.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:56:59 UTC No. 16344319
>>16343158
Can I get a quick run down? Has he been stubborn about keeping Boeing and that's why he would kill himself over this?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:57:53 UTC No. 16344323
>>16344268
It's no different than Silicon Valley waking up to Tesla and Facebook fucking them. It'll have the same consequences: new national legislation.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 17:59:31 UTC No. 16344327
>>16344317
there is plenty of things they could test but for some reason don't want to do
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:00:09 UTC No. 16344328
>>16344319
He literally invented SLS when he was a senator to give boeing a huge payday over a decade+ and keep legacy jobs online across the entire US, so…
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:02:33 UTC No. 16344334
>>16344302
>>16344310
I would figure even with ISS being retired on schedule in 2030, NASA is going to lease space on Axiom or whatever else comes next. There will be a destination that the crew contract can be amended for, assuming Boeing doesn't throw in the towel.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:02:41 UTC No. 16344335
>>16344265
This is from the SLS fanboy discord you stupid faggot. Are you the same person complaining about the twitter screenshots? You just showed up after that dumbass posted this thread to /pol/ and you're immediately making demands? Get the fuck out of here
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:03:07 UTC No. 16344337
>>16344327
no study of health effects on teens / children
no study of health effects on most animals
no study of feasibility of sexual reproduction
years of thinking that brain pressure causes eye degradation yet polaris will be the one to actually test it
yeah, I'm thinking ISS science is pretty worthless
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:03:18 UTC No. 16344338
>>16344309
Suppose you wanted to survey the higher latitudes of the Sun for very long periods to better understand it. A Keplerian orbit is inferior for that purpose.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:03:38 UTC No. 16344340
>>16344334
Assuming they can get Starliner off of the Station and actually start building the Axiom station in the first place lol
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:04:46 UTC No. 16344342
>>16344337
Imagine flying a 10 year old to the ISS.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:05:17 UTC No. 16344344
>>16344319
It's a joke. Boeing has been suiciding people lately and he just dealt them a blow
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:07:06 UTC No. 16344349
>>16344346
https://www.appropriations.senate.g
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:08:07 UTC No. 16344352
>>16344346
Oh hell naur jigsaw, you’re takin’ the piss mate
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:08:08 UTC No. 16344353
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:09:23 UTC No. 16344358
>>16343729
>2020
Damn that is a red flag if I've seen one. Who the fuck would refuse to go to space if not for lack of trust in the project overall? captcha related
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:13:35 UTC No. 16344362
>>16343708
Just wait till BepiColombo itself gets cancelled due to budget cuts
>the probe just vanishes out of existence with a *poof*
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:15:08 UTC No. 16344364
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:17:01 UTC No. 16344370
>>16344353
does dream chaser count as currently available cargo vehicles in its current state? is this a roundabout way to give boeing more money for starliner by saying it's a cargo vehicle?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:19:29 UTC No. 16344378
>>16344370
Well between this being worded as “dissimilar capabilities” (capsule vs spaceplane) and “some cargo vehicle that can be converted” it basically sounds, to me at least, like it’s referring specifically to Dreamchaser in every way except naming it directly which obviously they can’t do. But it’s heavily implied lol
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:20:31 UTC No. 16344379
>>16344352
I'm Boeing's reckoning.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:24:07 UTC No. 16344387
>Elon still hasn't been in space
what is he waiting for
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:25:30 UTC No. 16344393
>>16344387
to lose 30 pounds
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:25:41 UTC No. 16344394
>>16344335
No I dont complain about twitter screenshots I just dont like discord faggots. Also
>Everyone who I dont like is /pol/ even though no politics was ever discussed
Stop posting retarded ragebait and just go the fuck back to discord. This is the exact same thing as spamposting CSS, Thunderf00t and ESGHound for (You)s
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:26:17 UTC No. 16344395
>>16344387
Too busy grooming coworkers for IVF here on Earth
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:26:56 UTC No. 16344398
>>16344387
He doesn't care about joyrides like the "competitors" and I suspect even if he did he would consider the risk too high to justify some purposeless fun.
>what is he waiting for
Safe and consistent transport to a Mars base on the cusp of becoming a city
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:27:18 UTC No. 16344400
>>16344394
Lighten up, it’s not the same, it’s fun to point and laugh sometimes
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:27:33 UTC No. 16344402
>>16344387
Neither was von Braun
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:27:54 UTC No. 16344404
>>16344387
He will never go to space.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:28:07 UTC No. 16344405
>>16343534
How do you do an art deco spacesuit?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:28:32 UTC No. 16344407
>>16344394
I didn't post the discord images but I appreciate those who do (so I don't have to)
>CSS, Thunderf00t and ESGHound
What the fuck are you talking about, people I hate being wrong and mad is half the fun
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:28:35 UTC No. 16344408
>>16344403
Gonna cry?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:28:39 UTC No. 16344409
>>16344400
Yes I agree, SOMETIMES not 3-5 times every god damn thread where you take up 40 posts pretending to be a SLS cuck to rake in more (You)s
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:29:05 UTC No. 16344413
>>16344394
>This is the exact same thing as spamposting CSS, Thunderf00t and ESGHound for (You)s
but thats based
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:29:37 UTC No. 16344416
>>16344402
he worked for the government and unlike Elon couldn't just arrange a spaceflight for himself
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:29:42 UTC No. 16344417
>>16344409
Gonna cry?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:30:08 UTC No. 16344418
>>16344408
Haha, nice reddit meme! Spider man right?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:30:14 UTC No. 16344419
>>16344403
This summer it became shit. It was atleast somewhat better during the winter and spring. Also newsposters putting up twitter screenshots is okay but random retards on that platform posting their opinions or speculation is garbage. Discord screencaps are always for niggers that just post ragebait
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:30:50 UTC No. 16344420
>>16344403
All of the twitter posts itt are primary sources for news related to spaceflight.
The discord screenshots are making fun of people I hate which is funny
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:32:01 UTC No. 16344424
>>16344419
You new around here?
(don’t reply, the answer is obviously yes!)
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:32:14 UTC No. 16344425
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/18
Not looking good for Clipper, Berge is always correct. This same process of increasing likelihood of failure is what happened with Starliner just to mention
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:32:34 UTC No. 16344427
>>16344423
Careful man some tourist is going to get mad at you
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:33:09 UTC No. 16344428
>>16344425
Weird that I was thinking of BO’s lunar clipper and not, well, europa clipper
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:34:27 UTC No. 16344432
>>16344423
>>16344425
How dare you guys link to twitter this is unacceptable, the newfags told me so
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:34:45 UTC No. 16344433
>>16344424
Obvious projection by the newfag that exposed himself in the last thread by himself calling Brilliant Pebbles shill a newfag. Why dont you give some examples of what the old dichotomys of /sfg/ were just 2 years back? Or maybe tell me what picrel is? You must respond withing 3 minutes or you obviously used google.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:34:51 UTC No. 16344434
>>16344387
Where would you want him to go? The only destination is LEO and ISS, and while I would be happy to visit either I think Elon wants to go further if he leaves Earth, Moon or Mars.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:35:29 UTC No. 16344438
>>16344425
>This same process of increasing likelihood of failure is what happened with Starliner just to mention
Wait what? QRD?
And what is this “transistor issue”?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:35:35 UTC No. 16344439
>>16344403
I get the Xitter screenshots because a lot of the people from the industry post there, discord screenshot poster can die in a river. Is just giving them attention which is what they like.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:35:45 UTC No. 16344442
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:36:02 UTC No. 16344443
>>16344433
Gimme a few days, I can crack this
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:36:43 UTC No. 16344444
>>16344403
Was /sfg/ ever good?
t. 2021 newfag
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:36:58 UTC No. 16344445
>>16344433
Nuclear vs solar fags were my favorite. Have fun malding! Been here since the hop campaign
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:37:02 UTC No. 16344446
this is certainly an interesting angle, getting faux upset about discord and twitter screenshots about SLS retards so people here don't laugh at opinions that are very close to what you hold yourself
its like talking about how people who fuck horses are disgusting then some random person overhearing getting irrationally mad (of course not defending fucking horses, but something unrelated to deflect)
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:37:07 UTC No. 16344447
>>16344346
If crewed Dreamchaser happens then Boeing is irrecoverably done. SNC will have successfully done what NASA wanted Boeing to do in the 70s. Regardless of how they actually get it into low earth orbit, if Space Shuttle II goes up and works better than Starliner then Boeing is completely utterly totally toast and won't be able to do anything crewed in space anymore.
Here's hoping we get one Dreamchaser launch, crewed or not, before the end of the decade.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:37:28 UTC No. 16344448
>>16344444
Yes.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:37:37 UTC No. 16344449
>>16344444
checked, but /sfg/ compared to other generals is one of the best. You don't know what a truly shitty fast general is.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:37:50 UTC No. 16344451
>>16344438
QRD is Berger initially said it was most likely Starliner was going to bring Suni and Butch home but over time he began to say it was more likely the opposite. Same thing is happening to Clipper going up on time with Berger predictions. You can read about the transistor issue in thise Berger article
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:39:01 UTC No. 16344454
>>16344444
It was way different back in the earlier days. Very niche, lots of knowledgeable anons spamming about rocket history, engine types and engine cycles and plumbing and avionics, esoteric joke formation (many of which don’t exist anymore)
No one ever really went off-topic. No thread splitting. If you were a fag who got out of line the jannies swept you up pretty much immediately. It was comfy
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:39:38 UTC No. 16344456
>>16344433
the brilliant pebbles shill (you) is a newfag by the standards of this general existing
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:40:47 UTC No. 16344460
>>16344423
I can't believe he is saying even Russia is better than Boeing. What is he thinging dissing a major competitor like that
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:40:47 UTC No. 16344461
>>16344370
Starliner isn't a cargo vehicle. Dreamchaser is, at least for now. Boeing can't un-rate or derate their own vehicles, at least not without losing all their ISS access. That decision is made by either NASA or the FAA, and neither would take to the idea kindly.
Boeing is just fucked. This is the fall of a titan. The fall started weeks ago with the Starliner software problems, which then escalated with the heat tile issues. Now Boeing is absolutely going into the ground, the question is if it'll be a soft lithobrake at 50 mph (Starliner successfully lands without incident) or burns up in the atmosphere at Mach 5. We are EXTREMELY close to the latter, NASA believes the latter will happen enough to not risk human lives on it.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:41:49 UTC No. 16344463
>>16344461
>>16344460
>>16344454
>>16344451
>>16344449
>>16344448
>>16344446
>>16344445
>>16344444
>>16344444
>>16344442
>>16344439
>>16344438
>>16344434
>>16344433
>>16344432
>>16344428
>>16344427
>>16344424
>>16344423
>>16344420
>>16344419
>>16344418
>>16344417
>>16344416
>>16344409
>>16344408
ALL ME BTW
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:41:51 UTC No. 16344464
>>16344425
I care much more about Clipper than your stupid ISS capsule missions. Although there is a silver lining which is that JUICE will get to Jupiter sooner and I'm European.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:42:15 UTC No. 16344467
Next Kairos in December maybe.
>Tokyo, Aug. 25 (Jiji Press)--Japanese space development venture company Space One Co. said Sunday it will launch the second unit of its Kairos small satellite-carrying rocket as early as in December, after the launch of the No. 1 unit ended in failure this spring.
>The Tokyo-based company also said the failure of the No. 1 unit was determined to have been caused by the rocket's autonomous flight safety system judging the slower-than-predicted speed to be "abnormal" and causing the rocket to abort its flight.
https://www.nippon.com/en/news/yjj2
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:42:40 UTC No. 16344469
>>16344461
Didn't the second uncrewed flight have a parachute fail to deploy? I think it'd be hilarious if the capsule makes it through reentry against all odds, only to slam into the desert at terminal velocity because the chutes never opened.
>>16344463
Why'd you mass reply like some kind of fag
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:43:22 UTC No. 16344470
>>16344444
>glushkotard got the quints
it's over....
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:45:28 UTC No. 16344474
>>16344467
AFTS strikes again
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:46:11 UTC No. 16344478
>>16344394
> I'm n-not crying! You are!
Please go back to /pol/. Preferably on a Starliner.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:48:51 UTC No. 16344486
>>16344419
Pity nobody has to obey your whims. Sad now?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:49:07 UTC No. 16344488
Unrelated to the above discussion but I'm hoping Dreamchaser/SNC starts doing air-launches and dual-stage-to-orbit. That'll be neat, even though it's not useful for much besides civilian passengers that don't necessarily need or want a full orbital flight. Oribtal capacity could be built out later as more flights are done, and most of the flights would be certifying astronauts for actual Dragon, Orion, or New Shepherd flights.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:50:04 UTC No. 16344493
>>16344489
kill yourself hawaiian thread splitting furnigger scum go shill your posters somewhere else
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:50:26 UTC No. 16344494
>>16344487
Why? So normies won’t make fun of it anymore?
Normies don’t care about space they can call it the anus planet all they want, the Earth will be glassed soon and the people will be solved
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:50:27 UTC No. 16344495
>>16344487
Youassus
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:51:34 UTC No. 16344499
>>16344487
I propose Urectum.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:51:39 UTC No. 16344500
>>16344489
Relativity went from being a gay printing company, to being a serious market entry, and now they have fizzled out again and I don’t take them seriously nor see any profess or motivation
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:52:38 UTC No. 16344503
>>16344494
No it should fit the theme of having Roman god names but Uranus is the only one with a greek name and it has been universally agreed to be the worst of them all. Caelus sounds much better and also cant have ass jokes made of it anymore
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:54:02 UTC No. 16344505
>>16344500
they have been posting a lot of stuff on their twitter it seems like
https://x.com/relativityspace/statu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCl
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:57:13 UTC No. 16344516
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:57:40 UTC No. 16344518
>>16344423
This is why we need MOOSE
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:58:02 UTC No. 16344520
>>16344513
>2026
Fake and gay we will already have Starship test lunar landings by then
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:58:06 UTC No. 16344521
https://discord.com/invite/s7ZTEbUW
Heres an invite to the artemis discord. Please someone go mine salt for us.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 18:59:46 UTC No. 16344522
>>16344521
I'm not joining your horsefucking server nigga
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:00:39 UTC No. 16344524
>>16344521
Ip grabber + call to raid in this btw kek enjoy your vacation.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:01:01 UTC No. 16344527
>>16344447
Any more word on Sierra buying ULA?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:01:26 UTC No. 16344528
>>16344487
it really should have been Caelus from the start
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:02:17 UTC No. 16344531
>>16344527
Last I heard was that they'd have to borrow a lot of money to meet ULA's price, which doesn't make the offer sound very plausible.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:02:48 UTC No. 16344532
>>16344531
Bet the price may go down after the Boeing mess
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:04:31 UTC No. 16344535
>>16344532
No they’re not connected
>b-but Boeing is a half owner of ULA!!!
It won’t affect it
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:05:00 UTC No. 16344537
>>16344524
I sure ain't clicking that shit either but mining salt isn't raiding.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:05:07 UTC No. 16344538
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9a
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:06:03 UTC No. 16344540
>>16344531
At this rate Boeing will have to borrow money to pay Sierra to take ULA from them.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:08:01 UTC No. 16344545
>>16344521
thanks gonna go make some faggots seethe now
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:09:04 UTC No. 16344548
>>16344521
>join server
>it's not about horsefucking
I was lied to.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:10:55 UTC No. 16344553
>>16344204
F9 sticker price
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:13:19 UTC No. 16344559
how the fuck do i join the discord. it says you dont have premission to send messages i nthis channel
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:15:05 UTC No. 16344566
>>16344535
Not technically, but Boeing's taking a lot of criticism and big losses lately. Starliner is just the most space-related of them. The worse things get for Boeing the more easily they could be persuaded to let their share of ULA go for less.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:15:30 UTC No. 16344567
>>16344294
Would be great to know the breakdown of how much engineering time is spent on each component to see where all the money is going. And compare that to a submarine
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:18:59 UTC No. 16344574
Reminder that the submarine didn't collapse because "carbon is bad in compression"
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:19:35 UTC No. 16344576
>>16344567
I don't think we're allowed to know that information, for the exact reasons you want to know it.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:19:59 UTC No. 16344577
>>16344395
I didnt realize he and I were so alike
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:20:09 UTC No. 16344580
>>16344358
Did you really think all our negativity to boing came from a vacuum?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:20:12 UTC No. 16344581
>>16344574
wasn't it lamination due to stress cycling over time
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:21:12 UTC No. 16344583
>>16344582
What
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:21:12 UTC No. 16344584
>>16344403
This post is extremely low quality, for starters
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:21:13 UTC No. 16344585
When a submersible is deep in the ocean it experiences the force on its surface due to water pressure. When this force becomes larger than the force hull can withstand, the vessel implodes violently
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:22:20 UTC No. 16344588
If I was doing an interview for SpaceX and Musk walked in I would absolutely lose my calm.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:25:34 UTC No. 16344596
>>16344592
Someone's bringing a violin up to play, so what
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:29:17 UTC No. 16344600
>>16344592
>viola
>french horn
>harp
The idea of music in space is very romantic but what cacophony will result from this combo
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:31:08 UTC No. 16344602
>>16344487
It's spelled Ouranos (Οὐρανός) for one, and it's pronounced oo-ra-nohss, which is based
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:31:50 UTC No. 16344605
>>16344580
> Boeing has stopped sending reps to NASA Starliner pressers.
It's an artificial vacuum.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:35:18 UTC No. 16344611
>>16344438
>And what is this “transistor issue”?
They were invented by a racist so they can't use them anymore
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:38:21 UTC No. 16344618
>>16344585
That's insane
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:41:17 UTC No. 16344621
>>16344596
>>16344600
>Le musicians in space!
I fucking hate this meme so much. Acoustics are FUCKING SHIT in a capsule. It's like sitting in a fucking toilet cubicle.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:44:32 UTC No. 16344628
>>16344489
>perigee
didn't this dude go full crybabby temper tantrum over some bots doing an img2img of his pfp
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:53:10 UTC No. 16344642
why doesn't boeing do more testing? Is it really simply about cutting costs?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:54:11 UTC No. 16344647
>>16344642
It's fixed price contract, they won't get more money by spending more of their own.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:56:22 UTC No. 16344651
>>16344618
when's your next video coming out Tim?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:57:04 UTC No. 16344653
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:59:45 UTC No. 16344659
>>16344585
good thing the water pressure in most parts of space is less than that of even shallow oceans on earth.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:59:56 UTC No. 16344660
>Williams even said that she cried after she left the space station following her last mission in 2012, unsure if she would ever return.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:02:19 UTC No. 16344665
>>16344659
Where DID space-water come from anyway?
Earth got water from space, but where did space get water from?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:03:04 UTC No. 16344669
>>16344660
I would too, being an astronaut is a privilege. I would be honored just to be able to go to orbit once
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:03:11 UTC No. 16344671
>>16344665
Earth, duh
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:04:44 UTC No. 16344674
>>16344665
from the skibidi toilet bowl
>Verification not required
>This post fact-checked by real American patriots as TRUE
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:15:23 UTC No. 16344689
>>16344592
It's a paleozoic olenoides!
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:17:09 UTC No. 16344692
>>16344665
The oxygen came from stars fusing stuff from hydrogen, and the hydrogen came from... the hydrogen was always just THERE ok?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:22:10 UTC No. 16344700
>>16344692
the hydrogen came from the cooling plasma of the early universe (some helium too)
the protons came from a quark soup
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:24:54 UTC No. 16344707
>>16344692
>>16344700
Why did the oxygen and hydrogen favorably form water ice instead of just existing as frozen oxygen and frozen hydrogen?
I thought it takes energy to form water.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:28:33 UTC No. 16344711
>>16344707
hydrogen burns, it just takes enough heat once and then you are at a lower energy state
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:35:42 UTC No. 16344723
How is it dangerous to have children in low gravity and what will be done with jello babies
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:36:40 UTC No. 16344726
>>16344700
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chron
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:36:53 UTC No. 16344728
>>16344723
jello babies are ideal laborers in the jello mines
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:39:27 UTC No. 16344732
>>16344454
>lots of knowledgeable anons spamming about rocket history, engine types and engine cycles and plumbing and avionics
You know you could be one of them too, don't you?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:54:34 UTC No. 16344743
>>16344741
I was expecting furry porn
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:54:43 UTC No. 16344744
>>16344741
fake btw. fuck you anon
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:54:50 UTC No. 16344745
>>16344741
YYEEEAAAAHHHHHH
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:55:50 UTC No. 16344746
>>16344741
>>16344745
Wait
>2023
>2nd launch
What's your problem man
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:57:37 UTC No. 16344750
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:58:03 UTC No. 16344753
>>16344746
He's a real dick, that's what.
I would not invite him to the secret /sfg/ cookout.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 20:59:44 UTC No. 16344755
>>16344750
I hope they slowly boil you
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:00:49 UTC No. 16344757
>>16344754
>ah yes, the original 15 colonies
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:03:30 UTC No. 16344758
>>16344754
Me in the Egg of Isolation
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:13:39 UTC No. 16344765
>>16344754
filthy pest...
cats are probably too stupid to not freak out in microgravity anyway.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:14:51 UTC No. 16344767
>>16344600
>>16344596
how can string instruments even work in microgravity??
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:15:39 UTC No. 16344768
>>16344757
Canada and Mexico.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:16:42 UTC No. 16344770
>>16344765
I am sure they could get used to it. Certainly so if it were introduced to them as kittens
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:16:58 UTC No. 16344772
>>16344765
if theyre born in micro and you give the walls a carpet like property there wont be issues
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:17:14 UTC No. 16344773
>>16344767
Are you retarded
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:17:19 UTC No. 16344774
>>16344767
They work by friction.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:17:26 UTC No. 16344775
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:18:29 UTC No. 16344777
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:19:21 UTC No. 16344778
>>16344767
tell me what gravity does on a string instrument in 1G genius
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:19:32 UTC No. 16344779
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:20:36 UTC No. 16344781
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:20:52 UTC No. 16344782
>>16344773
>>16344774
>>16344778
I guess they're going to find out, huh.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:21:39 UTC No. 16344784
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:22:42 UTC No. 16344785
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:23:46 UTC No. 16344787
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:23:51 UTC No. 16344788
>>16344769
>>16344775
>>16344777
>>16344779
>>16344781
>>16344784
>>16344785
Yes we know we have seen the suits before stop spamming
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:24:51 UTC No. 16344789
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:34:40 UTC No. 16344802
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:36:26 UTC No. 16344805
>>16344788
Fuck off
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:36:38 UTC No. 16344807
>>16344741
Everyone knows Berger and Davenport race to be first to break the news. FAA has never been first
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:37:27 UTC No. 16344809
>>16344236
Kek
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:51:23 UTC No. 16344832
Inadequite pebbles.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:51:41 UTC No. 16344834
>>16344832
fruity pebbles
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:54:15 UTC No. 16344840
>>16344834
chocolate flavor blasted pebbles
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:57:37 UTC No. 16344845
>>16344387
spaceflight is still dangerous (possibly even more dangerous than driving a car on the highway every day for a decade) and musk sees himself as too important to be risked
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:57:53 UTC No. 16344846
IDA? more like DDA lmao
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 21:58:06 UTC No. 16344847
>>16344754
>American flag
I AM NOT BLACK
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 22:03:20 UTC No. 16344854
>>16344111
>dozen midwits hate you for speaking the truth
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 22:03:29 UTC No. 16344855
>>16344832
stones of inordinate intelligence
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 22:05:09 UTC No. 16344858
>>16344834
homosexual pebles
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 22:06:21 UTC No. 16344859
>>16344741
For a brief moment I thought we gaan..
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 22:08:40 UTC No. 16344867
>>16344859
How many times have they done this to us /sfg/gers and you still fall for it?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 22:11:21 UTC No. 16344871
>>16344867
kek
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 22:12:06 UTC No. 16344873
>>16344387
Space isnt his interest. Mars is.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 22:12:26 UTC No. 16344874
>>16344111
back to /pol/ paco
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 22:33:21 UTC No. 16344900
we are officially waiting longer for oft5 longer than oft4
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 22:33:53 UTC No. 16344903
>>16344775
I thought the suits looked lame at first but Im starting to like them, as long as they add cool designs in the future.
>>16344785
I've know like 20 guys that look exactly like him every-time I visit USA, he's like the stereotypical north American. Cool guys but they are always divorced or disappointed with their kids for some reason.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 22:34:06 UTC No. 16344904
>>16344900
spacex is washed
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 22:35:55 UTC No. 16344905
>>16344900
Blame the FAA. SpaceX has been ready since the start of this month. I get thats a big change to go for a landing but holy fuck
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 22:37:02 UTC No. 16344907
>>16344900
2 weeks
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 22:38:27 UTC No. 16344909
>>16344905
the FAA knows they'll grant it, they should just let them launch early and rubber stamp it later
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 22:43:38 UTC No. 16344916
>>16344909
>>16344905
I wonder if the FAA are truly pure blooded bureaucrats and their procedures are always annoyingly long or if some anons here are right and they just work as another bump in the road for spaceX depending on the current administration.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 22:52:49 UTC No. 16344927
>>16343374
how'd you get the job, if you had any other offers would you go somewhere else?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 22:53:16 UTC No. 16344928
>>16344741
Into the briny, stale pisslock you go.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 22:54:16 UTC No. 16344929
>>16344927
would be funny if that guy is Astra anon as well.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:00:57 UTC No. 16344934
>>16344927
Pays better than spacex and is literally 4 miles away. It pays the bills and isn't *that bad* but I am actively looking for something better. Without saying too much, the current state of the program is, in my opinion, uh... "sub-optimal".
>>16344929
Not astra anon, although I was a regular spacex anon a few years ago.
Astranon at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:01:08 UTC No. 16344935
>>16344929
(he's not)
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:04:53 UTC No. 16344940
>>16344935
where can i purchase the middle patch
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:05:33 UTC No. 16344942
>>16344935
Based watamelon enjoyer
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:06:04 UTC No. 16344944
>>16344700
>>16344692
>yfw you realize these are just names we give to what are essentially the most primordial elements of the universe
at least, in our universe
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:06:06 UTC No. 16344945
>>16344935
Kill yourself namefaggot
>>16344934
Boomeranging to rise the ranks in this industry is a respectable option, from most people I've heard that is the main way to get better pay as you mostly stagnate by staying in the same company. I hope that if you go to a different company though that its meaningful work and not just paycheck collecting, we already have enough of that in this industry.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:16:33 UTC No. 16344949
>>16344342
>>16344337
Imagine the sort of missions Epstein could have funded.
Astranon at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:18:04 UTC No. 16344953
>>16344940
One of the /k/ shops. I forget which.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:19:23 UTC No. 16344955
>>16344945
Boomeranging is an option but I'd rather go somewhere small that's doing something interesting. It's been fun working on mass-produced constellations but I'd much rather work on bespoke one-off stuff.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:24:25 UTC No. 16344959
There may be music from space as well. During Inspiration4, crewmember Chris Sembroski played the ukulele for viewers at home. Polaris Dawn’s Gillis is a classically trained violinist and may be taking her instrument to space with her. “Some secrets I’m going to keep,” she says with a laugh.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:24:59 UTC No. 16344960
>>16344934
>Pays better than spacex
is the pay at spacex really that bad? Are you software or hardware side? About to be graduating and their pay seems to be on par entry level with other aerospace / defense companies. Also I heard the stock options are incredibly lucrative over at spacex.
>Without saying too much, the current state of the program is, in my opinion, uh... "sub-optimal".
I've heard other stories as well. Good luck to you anon
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:30:10 UTC No. 16344963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eER
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:30:26 UTC No. 16344964
>>16344949
>tfw the second 'island' is in a lunar crater
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:35:41 UTC No. 16344968
>>16343512
What does the HUD display?
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:36:04 UTC No. 16344969
>>16344960
>pay
From what I've heard they've started paying a little better than they used to but it's still not that great. Especially considering how hard they'll work you. Working at Spacex is the sort of thing you should go into with the expectation that you'll burn out in ~2.5 years and need to find something else to do.
>good luck
Thanks
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:38:28 UTC No. 16344970
>>16344963
bretty good segment
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:43:46 UTC No. 16344972
>>16344970
best I've seen from MSM actually
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:43:51 UTC No. 16344973
>>16344968
basic suit data
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:48:09 UTC No. 16344975
>>16341230
>>16341240
SpaceX is around 50% the reason my interest in space exploration returned. Spending 50 years with essentially nothing happening in spaceflight and empty promises makes this a painful hobby.
If Starship enables faster, frequent and more ambitious probe missions it will spark interest in even more people.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:48:34 UTC No. 16344976
>>16344592
violin
tuba
harp
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:49:56 UTC No. 16344978
>>16344592
i hope keyboard is one of the instruments involved in the first space made genre of music.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 00:05:10 UTC No. 16344981
>>16344338
Multiple satellites observing the sun is easier & not expensive.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 00:12:59 UTC No. 16344984
>>16344981
Many sats are more expensive than few sats and plane changes are energetically costly -see
the rigmarole with the Ulysses solar poles probe. Easier and better data if you go non-Keplerian with a electromagnetic sail
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 00:13:40 UTC No. 16344985
>>16344665
planetary nebula and supernovae
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 00:16:16 UTC No. 16344986
>>16344707
>why did the extremely hot hydrogen-mixed-with-oxygen cloud form water?
Do you seriously need this explained? Free radical oxygen atoms in vacuum will bond with whatever they hit, and it was overwhelmingly likely that those oxygen atoms would hit hydrogen atoms before anything else.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 00:19:51 UTC No. 16344990
>>16344772
>cat sprays all over your space station
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 00:24:40 UTC No. 16344993
>>16344976
>>16344978
Needs bagpipes.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 00:25:59 UTC No. 16344995
>>16344993
bagpipes don't work in space, no air.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 00:26:23 UTC No. 16344996
>>16344990
just cut their pp off
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 00:30:13 UTC No. 16345002
>>16344984
>Many
Only 3 are needed, 6 if you want to go overkill, and who cares, the Jupiter gravity assist window opens every year. No new technology is needed.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 00:35:41 UTC No. 16345005
>>16345000
> “We have had so many embarrassments lately, we’re under a microscope. This just made it, like, 100 times worse,” one worker, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said. “We hate SpaceX,” he added. “We talk s–t about them all the time, and now they’re bailing us out.”
"Those grapes are probably sour anyway."
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 00:38:55 UTC No. 16345009
>>16345002
we need more sats looking at the sun. as it stands we can only study it half the time. what if it does something interesting at night?
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 00:42:19 UTC No. 16345013
>>16345005
They hate em cause they ain't em
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 00:55:57 UTC No. 16345034
>>16345009
Why don’t we study the night side of the Sun?
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 00:56:50 UTC No. 16345035
>>16345034
I propose a manned mission to the Sun
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 00:57:37 UTC No. 16345037
>>16345034
need nuclear power cause no sunlight for solar arrays
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:00:17 UTC No. 16345042
>>16345005
https://x.com/therealdjflux/status/
>Despite what may be published in the media and in Internet comments, many dedicated, hardworking, and passionate engineers, technicians, and scientists put many years of effort into building, testing, and operating Starliner. They’re not “hacks” or “incompetent” people - they care deeply about their work, they care for the people who fly on these spacecraft, and they care about their families and friends. They want the astronauts to come home safe. These same people are now practicing and focused on bringing Calypso home safely and successfully. Please take a moment and think about these people and their families before writing that click-bait headline, or the scathing comment online.
But, guys! You just can't be mean to them. They just care so much!
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:01:09 UTC No. 16345046
>>16345000
>boeing employees humiliated
It has only just begun, they still have a long way to fall and fall they will.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:01:54 UTC No. 16345047
>>16345002
Jupiter out of plane assists mean your probes will be making observations many AU from the Sun with a corresponding drop in resolution
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:02:36 UTC No. 16345049
>>16345042
>Please take a moment and think about these people and their families before writing that click-bait headline, or the scathing comment online.
"No!"
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:06:40 UTC No. 16345058
>>16345042
>Boeing says it's safe to bring the astronauts home on Starliner
>NASA decides it isn't
>NASA says their decision is based off their experience and expertise
>implying these qualities must be lacking at Boeing
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:07:39 UTC No. 16345059
>>16345005
>We hate SpaceX
a very healthy company culcha
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:08:30 UTC No. 16345061
>>16345000
The humiliation ritual will continue
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:09:10 UTC No. 16345062
>>16345042
>"We can hate SpaceX but you taxpayers can't hate us!"
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:09:25 UTC No. 16345063
>>16345059
These are surely mature and sober engineers. Not immature inexperienced brats and emotional women.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:09:48 UTC No. 16345064
>>16345005
Waking up and seeing the guy who smokes pot keeps beating you
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:10:06 UTC No. 16345066
>>16345058
According to the OIG, the Boeing crew at Michoud can't even figure out how to consistently do aerospace-grade welding for EUS
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:10:49 UTC No. 16345067
>>16345062
For these remarks, NASA should force Boeing to write a public letter of gratitude and appreciation to SpaceX.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:20:27 UTC No. 16345080
>>16345042
Boeing only wasted $5 billion of your tax dollars and 10 years of your Life.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:22:45 UTC No. 16345083
>>16345078
Cancerous but it doesn’t negate the fact that NASA needs $2 billion and 5.5 years to build a new tower for Space Launch System Block 1B. Meanwhile Musk did it in a few months and it can do the exact same thing—launch a super heavy lift rocket to space. Plus Musk’s can lift and stack the rocket and catch it in mid air for like 1/100000th the price lol
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:23:56 UTC No. 16345085
>>16345080
The problem is the management culture at Boeing, and I do feel bad for the engineers trying to make it work regardless; they still have to satisfy the bosses, and the bosses are incompetent fuckheads who only exist to satisfy what the C-Suite tells them will make the stock value go up.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:26:35 UTC No. 16345088
>>16345078
>that ESL title
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:27:32 UTC No. 16345092
>>16345085
The engineers at Boeing are evidently a bunch of dirtbags who hate SpaceX and spend their free time driving up to the fence of SpaceX's properties to jeer at them.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:28:15 UTC No. 16345093
>berger thinks dragon will be used into the 2040s
i was thinking it's a long time but that's only 16 years from now, so it might be plausible
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:29:00 UTC No. 16345095
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:29:19 UTC No. 16345096
>>16345092
>spend their free time driving up to the fence of SpaceX's properties to jeer at them.
Not my invention btw, it's from Berger's book Reentry.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:30:46 UTC No. 16345098
>>16345096
ULA, not boing!
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:30:56 UTC No. 16345100
>>16345083
>NASA needs $2 billion and 5.5 years to build a new tower
Actually AIR, NASA was going to "refursh" the existing tower to save money. That ended up costing billions, then that had to be scrapped -- because it didn't work. THEN they build another tower for more billions.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:31:17 UTC No. 16345103
>>16345098
Two peas in the same pod.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:33:07 UTC No. 16345105
>>16345100
Hilariously sad that SLS was sold as “Shuttle but a conventional vertical stack, therefore it’ll be cheaper and faster to build!”
It has been anything but
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:35:31 UTC No. 16345107
>>16345105
And to think astronaut autism was the only reason we didn't have Shuttle-C by 1990.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:36:16 UTC No. 16345111
>>16345092
ULA's engineers, not Boeing's. Boeing owns them, but Tory Bruno hires and manages them.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:40:32 UTC No. 16345115
>>16345107
Yeah honesty I’ve come around to shuttle-c. The R&D was already done, and we had the ability to get shuttle hardware out the door super quickly. Should have just kept everything online (this keeps jobs online and thus congress happy) and just side-launch shit to LEO autonomously. Orbital assemble your lunar transfer stage+crew compartment in LEO (back-to-back shuttle launches were absolutely possible)
I don’t get why STS has to be completely redesigned to Ares I/V and ultimately SLS. Just keep what you have
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:41:08 UTC No. 16345116
>>16345100
"And now our tragic tale."
https://arstechnica.com/science/202
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:46:57 UTC No. 16345123
>>16345107
Shuttle-c was a great idea in principle, right up until you start to see the reusable autism start to creep back in. Too many of the proposals included recoverable engine pods that cost-plus contractors would just to gobble billions designing, or ideas like "what if Shuttle-c was just disposable orbiters." No one in the late 80s or early 90s had the right mindset to make a SDV that really focused on being cheap.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:53:08 UTC No. 16345130
>>16345123
This would have expended 2x OMS and 3x SSMEs
With what we ended up getting (SLS) you only expend 1x OMS (aka Orion’s single AJ-10) but you expend 4x SSMEs. So it’s somehow even worse!
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:56:35 UTC No. 16345133
>>16345123
If I could go back in time to 1979 I could save STS with a paragraph of greentext.
>Just fucking use titanium. Yes, the whole fucking body. It's going to get cheaper. Using aluminum kills seven people.
>The O-Ring design is fucking trash for burnthrough and cold weather. It kills seven more people. Throw it out and start over.
>Once STS-1 lands safely, build four orbiters every year until 1990. You heard me. Every year. Rockwell's cost modeling assumes Congress buys a fleet of orbiters.
>Tell the astronauts to eat shit. Add an automated landing mode. Build Shuttle-C, and Shuttle-CXL with a bigger ET, five SSMEs, and four SRBs. There's your Saturn successor.
>Dry workshop the FUCK out of Shuttle C/CXL empties and ETs. We want spinny rings by 1995.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:57:57 UTC No. 16345137
>>16345133
Bro I don’t think you’re getting a space shuttle orbiter back to earth if it’s made of fucking Titanium
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:58:54 UTC No. 16345138
>>16345133
>The O-Ring design is fucking trash for burnthrough and cold weather.
Wouldn't change things. The booster design they went with was the worst of four possible proposals and somehow managed to get picked anyway.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 01:59:14 UTC No. 16345139
>>16345137
The real ones were made of straight aluminum, which was worse!
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:00:20 UTC No. 16345144
>>16345140
>reamjet
goddammit
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:00:52 UTC No. 16345145
>>16345139
I meant for mass reasons. They couldn’t even use steel. The mass constraints were too tight and it already basically fell like a brick with aluminum
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:04:32 UTC No. 16345150
>>16345133
Why not go back to 1970 and tell them they'll never use that cross-range ability so you don't need those big wings?
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:05:30 UTC No. 16345151
>>16345145
Titanium has a better strength to weight ratio than both
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:07:49 UTC No. 16345153
>>16345151
Could you ditch the astronaut ice cream TPS if you had a titanium body? For reentry from the Moon probably not, but for reentry from LEO I imagine a titanium body could take the heat with a metal body TPS similar to the X-15 or something
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:21:59 UTC No. 16345163
We should turn the Moon into a reservation for non-Americans.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:23:06 UTC No. 16345164
>>16345133
You forgot the part about keeping the white paint on the ETs.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:24:31 UTC No. 16345166
>tfw you realize the noble lie that is the high frontier and that humans are way too destructive and unpredictable to live on space colonies with the only suitable habitats being Earth 2.0's
This is why I ride my motorcycle without a helmet.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:27:28 UTC No. 16345170
>>16345166
Wear a full face helmet, earplugs, riding boots, and carbon knuckle gloves, and ride at night. It's like doing an EVA strapped to a missile.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:31:06 UTC No. 16345173
>>16345163
They will throw roggs which /sfg/ assures me are the ultimate weapon
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:34:29 UTC No. 16345179
>>16345173
Yes
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:35:15 UTC No. 16345182
>>16345151
eager space did a video about material choices
https://youtu.be/1tBdgABSTvo?si=jCX
steel rocks, titanium is too hard to use and too expensive
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:35:21 UTC No. 16345183
>>16345173
Only at Earth, which /sfg/ assures me is of no loss.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:35:50 UTC No. 16345184
>>16345173
>Big words coming from someone on the lower end of the gravity well.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:38:36 UTC No. 16345187
On the militaristic side of things. Is it even possible for humans to become a truly space faring civilization if it would become so easy for a space based force to essentially rule the world by just threatening to chuck rocks at it if they don't pay taxes? I feel like creating a huge presence on the moon would be similar to a country laying claim to Antarctica with all of its resources. A move like that would just instantly spark a world war.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:40:03 UTC No. 16345191
>>16345183
In this scenario Earth is solely inhabited by Americans so yes, thats correct
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:45:25 UTC No. 16345197
>>16345187
That's why nobody threatens to throw roggs until we get FTL and find or terraform other garden worlds.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 02:54:42 UTC No. 16345203
>>16345197
Unironically I think manufacturing primordial black holes to use as power for starships is the most feasible way for fast STL (70ish% c). You would already require massive industry in space already with probably millions if not billions already living off world but the basic idea of blasting a metric fuck ton of lasers onto a single point isn't out of the realm of possibility, especially when compared to something like the amount of antimatter you would need to manufacture for an interstellar journey would be even harder to do.
So combine a starship going at 0.7c and being able to induce hibernation for the colonists so they barely age. And you got yourself relatively quick transport to other star systems near the solar system. In terms of a hard sci fi setting, that's probably the only realistic way to have an interstellar empire which would probably only be as big as a 5-15 lightyears in radius from the capital system, since star systems within that radius would still be close enough for travel time (a few years to a couple decades) that they could still pose a threat.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 03:00:11 UTC No. 16345205
>>16345203
>5-15 lightyears in radius
All the stars in that range are shit tier. It's over
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 03:00:37 UTC No. 16345206
>sill no black hole formation lab in mars orbit
im gunna cry
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 03:02:09 UTC No. 16345207
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 03:04:30 UTC No. 16345209
>>16345205
We could get lucky with a planet that is Earth sized and has active magnetosphere with an atmosphere that would just need to be terraformed. The real issue with planets like Mars are that they're dead worlds. Finding a planet that would just need to be seeded and filtered would be a whole different story. Especially if you're working with massive infrastructure, so less SpaceX more Weyland-Yutani.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 03:15:02 UTC No. 16345213
>/sci/ didn't get nuked
Why? This thread is the only thing on here worth a shit.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 03:17:13 UTC No. 16345216
>>16345187
Shut the fuck up and delete your post immediatly before you attract the /k/igger bots again
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 03:27:41 UTC No. 16345226
>>16344111
based trips of truth, incels will seethe
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 03:37:07 UTC No. 16345235
>>16345204
Not the most accurate because it's only talking completed engine programs that found a rocket to fly on. There were a lot of engines programs that were worked on after the RS-25 (STME, STBE, RS-76, RS-84, TR-106, TR-107, RL-50/MB-60, Fastrac, etc) that most people have just never heard. That's a big part of why every space launch startup is developing their own engines in-house these days; there's just that much unrealized engineering talent sitting on top of decades of unfinished work.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 03:44:26 UTC No. 16345242
The astronauts are stranded.
sfg was wrong.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 04:03:04 UTC No. 16345258
>>16345242
What's going on?
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 04:05:55 UTC No. 16345260
>>16345255
>is suborbital research genuine or a meme
there are perfectly legitimate applications for suborbital rockets in science, and launching humans has not been one of them since 1961
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 04:34:18 UTC No. 16345272
>>16345256
What a sad place. Maybe im just spoiled with 4chan and instagram, but must be damming to frequent those kind of sites being afraid to be downvoted and banned just for having the "wrong" opinion.
> inb4 this place is the same
No is not, here if your reply gets deleted most of the anons here can see it still with 4chanx and if you have controversial opinions you get called a tranny nigger at worst.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 04:43:52 UTC No. 16345279
>>16345272
Yeah I don't get the appeal either.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 04:49:01 UTC No. 16345282
expendable alabama rocks
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 04:50:35 UTC No. 16345283
>>16345272
r/starliner isn't that bad. most comments there recognize spacex's dominance and superior engineering. and they just banned a retard who keeps saying berger is in bed with elon and writes russian disinfo articles to undermine american space industry. the sort of pure nonsense that is upvoted in more popular subreddits like news. r/sls literally locked the oig thread the moment it was posted.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 04:55:13 UTC No. 16345287
>>16345260
The return of shiny steel rockets built in barns as American crew vehicles is long overdue. I hope the first shiny crew Starship is called Friendship 8.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 05:03:56 UTC No. 16345294
>>16345140
Even more autism.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 05:04:40 UTC No. 16345295
>>16345255
He was also on the last sub dive to the Titanic before the accident
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 05:06:14 UTC No. 16345296
>>16345294
Sir that is a sombrero full of farts, not a spacecraft.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 05:10:57 UTC No. 16345301
>>16345100
Then they found the SRB exhaust was too corrosive and stole the piping from tower two, essentially rebuilding the first one again
Fuck SRBs
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 05:24:23 UTC No. 16345307
>>16345296
USS Cerveza
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 05:25:31 UTC No. 16345308
>>16345294
great design, I will now allocate a 10 billion dollars cost plus contract that get it's crew killed on reentry
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 05:55:39 UTC No. 16345326
>>16345323
All pre-starship "realistic" planet exploration sci-fi is now a retrofuture like Neuromancer
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 05:59:51 UTC No. 16345328
>>16345000
>>16345064
>upstart
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:00:49 UTC No. 16345329
astroonomers are going to cry tears of blood once stations with starship sized modules start being built
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:05:09 UTC No. 16345331
>>16345329
good, make way for bigger telescopes even further out
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:18:08 UTC No. 16345343
>>16345203
Spontaneous particle pair creation will bleed off energy faster than you can add it to create a Kugelblitz, so that method won't work.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:22:06 UTC No. 16345349
>>16345343
It's on atomic rockets so it must be true.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:22:08 UTC No. 16345350
I'm thinking about the tethered ring space launch again
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:23:42 UTC No. 16345351
>>16345350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-0
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:24:10 UTC No. 16345352
>>16345349
https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstra
.We show that it is not possible to concentrate enough light to precipitate the formation of an event horizon. We argue that the dissipative quantum effects coming from the self-interaction of light (such as vacuum polarization) are enough to prevent any meaningful buildup of energy that could create a black hole in any realistic scenario.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:25:51 UTC No. 16345355
>>16345352
Pussies, the solution is simple, more lasers. Make them more powerful. Simply moar.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:26:23 UTC No. 16345357
https://manifold.markets/TimothyBan
Easy W
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:26:56 UTC No. 16345358
>>16345353
Moot has returned and is currently stuffing the server up his ass.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:27:57 UTC No. 16345360
>>16345203
How could you control and utilize the black hole?
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:31:14 UTC No. 16345367
>>16345360
You use the Hawking radiation as a source of energy. That with a side of big shrug.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:33:25 UTC No. 16345371
>>16345088
It's ok, you can say Pajeet here.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:54:17 UTC No. 16345383
>>16345138
mormons did challenger
the rabbit hole is pretty deep
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:57:17 UTC No. 16345387
>>16345216
What's the big deal with /k/? I only ever hear you complain about it.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:59:43 UTC No. 16345391
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 07:05:07 UTC No. 16345396
>>16345387
What's the big deal with /pol/? I only ever hear you complain about it.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 10:50:03 UTC No. 16345580
>>16345042
>They’re not “hacks” or “incompetent” people - they care deeply about their work, they care for the people who fly on these spacecraft, and they care about their families and friends
Incompetent hacks can care deeply about their work and about family friends & crew while still being incompetent hacks, it just makes it sadder lmao. They care SO deeply, and Starliner is the result of all that hard work.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 10:51:17 UTC No. 16345581
>>16345047
Only if you do not brake at periapse dummy.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 10:57:18 UTC No. 16345587
>>16345111
Having a different boss isn't going to turn a wholesome chungus engineer who appreciates competition into a guy who makes a physical drive to a different facility's fence to harasses the competition.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 13:47:51 UTC No. 16345751
>>16344945
Astranon is allowed to namefag here, he's been present since before crew demo 1
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 13:53:02 UTC No. 16345761
>>16343383
I wouldn't know; sponsorblock skips all of them automatically for me
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 15:27:58 UTC No. 16345869
>>16343884
dude spoilers
>>16344159
you don't need 40,000 employees and an 8 digit operating budget to ban a few silly robocars and the TSA is nothing but security theater to keep the sheep calm.
>>16344337
NO ARTIFICIAL GRAVITY RESEARCH AT ALL
BECAUSE IT WOULD KILL THE ZERO-G HEALTH EFFECTS CONCERN TROLLING GRIFT
vast can't get to orbit fast enough
>>16344433
>>16344444
>>16344445
>>16344454
>>16344732
I believe, perversely enough, that the increasing amount of interesting things happening in spaceflight has actually directly caused the decline in /sfg/ quality. People don't speculate about deeply autistic topics any more with starship and artemis are just over the horizon,and the increased public attention has drawn in more tourists that dilute the thread. Older /sfg/ regulars abandoned the thread or have relegated themselves to lurking; why effortpost when there's no hyperautistic anons to hold high level discussion on such esoteric topics? When starship was still called BFR (pre-/sfg/?) I was arguing with space elevator fags about the economics of BFR/ITS making an elevator almost redundant because even the cost of electricity to climb up to orbit would have been almost equal the cost of launching the same mass with a starship - electricity prices are tightly pinned to natural gas (because that's our majority source of power), and a nat gas turbine plant transmitting over the grid with line losses driving an elevator ends up actually consuming MORE natural gas per kg/orbit than the theoretical BFR/ITS numbers, mostly due to thermodynamic inefficiencies in the generation step. Combining that with the ridiculously insane cost of developing the cable material, I demonstrated that a space elevator isn't economically viable for at least 100 years (assuming no major breakthroughs with Q>1 fusion AND materials science making kilometer long flawless carbon nanotubes). I no longer have the energy or determination to efforpost like that for multiple 2000 character posts.