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🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General

Anonymous No. 16362078

Rocketlab fairing - edition

previous (undeleted) >>16358687

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Anonymous No. 16362082

For some reason a janny just decided to delete the actual previous thread alltogether, had like 200 replies

Anonymous No. 16362083

concerning

Anonymous No. 16362086

>>16362083
was it you? faggot

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Anonymous No. 16362089

I woke up and there was no /sfg/
never do that to me again

Anonymous No. 16362094

>>16362086
Who do you think I am?

Anonymous No. 16362098

>>16362082
Good lol, dogshit general belongs on /n/

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Anonymous No. 16362102

https://x.com/SpaceAbhi/status/1831464741207994717

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SPEHS

Anonymous No. 16362105

>>16362082
now when I think about it I think it was actually past the bumplimit, might have been at 400-500 actually

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>>16362107
https://www.oaoa.com/local-news/in-south-texas-spacex-faces-skepticism-over-environmental-damage/

Anonymous No. 16362111

>>16362105
yeah 576 posts lmao

https://archived.moe/sci/thread/16360701/

Anonymous No. 16362112

What's the latest Starship conspiracy theory?

Anonymous No. 16362113

>>16362107
>>16362109
Who cares what a bunch of no name losers think?

Anonymous No. 16362114

>>16362082
We need to dock their pay

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Anonymous No. 16362115

https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1831687728997556512

reposting (though with another Berger comment)

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Anonymous No. 16362121

>>16362115
It pisses me off that the only reason we have this problem is that congress mandated that orion can't launch on anything besides SLS. The solution to this problem is obvious, launch it on falcon heavy and test the new reentry profile. It's too late now but it's still a damning inditement of nasa that this obvious solution hasn't even been floated.

Anonymous No. 16362123

>>16362082
Good. It had too much offtopic shit.

Anonymous No. 16362125

>>16362121
not publicly floated, you would probably lose your job if you did that at NASA as people have for other reasons (like choosing Starship for HLS)

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>>16362117

Anonymous No. 16362129

>>16362123
not really especially, nowhere near enough to warrant deletion
and even then its better to archive it
this smells like something personal or a derangement syndrome of some sort

Anonymous No. 16362130

>>16362125
Again, a damning inditement of nasas culture.

Anonymous No. 16362134

>>16362082
I think it was the titties

Anonymous No. 16362136

Doing

Anonymous No. 16362138

>>16362134
there were no titties >>16362111

Anonymous No. 16362152

>>16362078
Is Neutron going to be all archemedes or will it have rutherfords somewhere?

Anonymous No. 16362158

>>16362152
Why would it have rutherford? They're heavy as fuck.

Anonymous No. 16362163

>>16362082
It was the d*tch. I piss on their graves.

Anonymous No. 16362166

>>16362158
Falcon 1 and 9 both use merlins. NS and NG both use be3s. Rocketlab should have more pride in their engine designs than to move away from them like that.

Anonymous No. 16362167

>>16362138
In the OP gaia was. Thats the one thing janny ALWAYS deletes threads for even if its stupid like this

Anonymous No. 16362173

>>16362166
The problem with rutherfords is that they need batteries which are heavy as fuck and theres no room for improvement besides waiting on battery advancements. Turbo-pump engines are just better.

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Anonymous No. 16362181

https://spacenews.com/spacex-satellites-with-tesat-terminals-achieve-first-laser-data-exchange-for-u-s-military/
>ARLINGTON, Va. — Two SpaceX-built satellites successfully exchanged data using optical communications terminals in a milestone for the U.S. Space Development Agency (SDA), the agency’s director Derek Tournear said Sept. 4.

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Anonymous No. 16362187

Nobody has new ideas, we're still just making things people thought up 75 years ago. Is this where our resident billionaire got the idea? Make it but bigger for Mars?

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Anonymous No. 16362188

Will there be a stream of saarliner undocking or will boeing be too ashamed to show it?

Anonymous No. 16362190

>>16362187
It's hard to come up with new stuff if you're stuck in LEO.

Anonymous No. 16362192

>>16362188
Not boeing’s call.

Anonymous No. 16362194

>>16362188
yes there will
stream starts before undocking, then there is a pause and it continues like 4h later before re-entry starts
time between undocking and re-entry is like 6h

Anonymous No. 16362196

>>16362181
Just in time for the Reagan biopic. Gobbless Ameriga!
>>16362188
I think NASA said they would. The cameras are on the ISS, not Shartliner, Boing doesn't have much input.

Anonymous No. 16362204

>>16362181
how much money does spacex make from starshield? i heard its only a 1.8b shared contract. seems very little money to sell your soul for and put starlink at risk

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Anonymous No. 16362205

https://x.com/erdayastronaut/status/1831708888028127497
New Blorigin tour GET IN HERE

Anonymous No. 16362207

>>16362204
starlink at risk? There are more starlink sats than every nation on earth combined has ASAT

Anonymous No. 16362208

>>16362205
When was this taken?

Anonymous No. 16362210

>>16362207
chinas already working on new asat tech

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Anonymous No. 16362213

>>16362205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu8SlfmpKM4
>First Ever Tour Of Blue Origin's Massive New Glenn Launch Pad w/ Jeff Bezos!

>>16362208
seems like it happened right after part 1, so May if I remember correctly

Anonymous No. 16362217

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_Angels_(Niven,_Pournelle,_and_Flynn_novel)
>the lunatic fringe of the environmental movement controls the US government. Abandoned by Earth, the space colonies replenish their air by scoop-ships diving into the atmosphere
Read this to stoke hate for Earthers

Anonymous No. 16362218

>>16362102
>$63 billion revenue in 2030
thats only half of comcast's current revenue. im surprised spacex makes so little money even though their growth forecast is insane.

Anonymous No. 16362219

>>16362218
Comcast has like 80 million residential customers plus all their business contracts plus iirc they own NBC.

Anonymous No. 16362221

>>16362187
Just like how the Greeks invented faggotry 2500 years ago but here you are

Anonymous No. 16362223

>>16362219
if comcast can own nbc then starlink can own X

Anonymous No. 16362225

>>16362218
this is a forecast from one analyst

Anonymous No. 16362226

earthchads, moon people are lunatics, but what will we call martians?

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>>16362213
final assembly bay with flight article

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Anonymous No. 16362231

>>16362228
booster strak with thermal fabric

Anonymous No. 16362233

>>16362213
>>16362228
So is new glenn going to have the strakes or not? That test article and estro’s graphic have them but I didn’t see them anywhere in the last tour or on another test article.

Anonymous No. 16362234

>>16362233
Nevermind there’s my answer I guess. >>16362231

Anonymous No. 16362236

>>16362102
>>16362218
It's still over double NASA's entire budget.

If Starlink does grow this much, and I don't see why it wouldn't, we'll live in a world where SpaceX can self-fund Moon and Mars base building. I'm not talking about a few scattered surface modules and a flagpole, they'll make McMurdo station look like a fucking joke.

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Anonymous No. 16362239

>>16362231
nitrogen and hot gox, hot ox lines for autogenous pressurization

Anonymous No. 16362240

>>16362217
>scooping air from earth
That's too retarded for me to suspend my disbelief. Authors who try to write scifi while not knowing about ISRU are midwits (the worst kind of wits)

Anonymous No. 16362242

>>16362226
kaseijin

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>>16362239
gox line is in the middle, O2 tank is at the bottom and LNG tank is at the top because lox is heavier

Anonymous No. 16362244

What is the worst planet in the universe and why is it Earth?

Anonymous No. 16362247

>common bulkhead
huh, I thought those were impossible, at least that is what CSS told me

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Anonymous No. 16362248

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1831715816422752429

Anonymous No. 16362250

>>16362248
Shut the fuck up nobody cares

Anonymous No. 16362251

>>16362250
Blorigin shill detected

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>>16362248

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Anonymous No. 16362256

https://x.com/NASANewHorizons/status/1831406084386353487
https://pluto.jhuapl.edu/News-Center/News-Article.php?page=20240904

>A new, peer-reviewed study authored by NASA’s New Horizons Kuiper Belt search team reports the detection of an unexpected population of very distant bodies in the Kuiper Belt, an outer region of our solar system populated by ancient remnants of planetary building blocks lying beyond the orbit of Neptune. The study used data collected with the 8.2-meter diameter Japanese Subaru Telescope in Hawaii. New Horizons is the NASA’s spacecraft sent to explore the Pluto system and the Kuiper Belt.

RIP Planet 9 hypothesis

Anonymous No. 16362257

>>16362250
gonna cry?

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16362259

>>16362248
Wooo, more Muskrat pollution. After he blocks out the stars will he cover the sky with Putin propaganda? The government needs to arrest this con artist, he doesn't do anything except suck up money and destroy the environment.

Anonymous No. 16362260

>>16362256
Actually very cool, that means theres a while new group of objects to discover for astroonomers. Im gonna look at this study, figure out how far out they are.

Anonymous No. 16362261

It's nice to have a daytime landing for once

Anonymous No. 16362262

>>16362257
yeah

Anonymous No. 16362263

It's the barge of death stripped to bare steel.

Anonymous No. 16362266

>>16362078
My brain is having difficult comprehending the shape in that image.

Anonymous No. 16362267

>>16362260
It's funny how a 9th planet was one of the more boring potentials.

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Anonymous No. 16362268

>>16362243
the forward section gets attached here, then the second stage to that

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Anonymous No. 16362270

>they don't know i'm about to fry some beetles

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Anonymous No. 16362271

>>16362268
10 miles to the pad

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Anonymous No. 16362273

>>16362271
integration facility

Anonymous No. 16362275

>>16362240
I respect your autism but its a plot device to put spacers in peril from commie Earther shitheads

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>>16362273

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>>16362276

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>>16362278
transporter-erector with a payload simulator and a mass simulator for the second stage and booster

Anonymous No. 16362281

>>16362267
Nah, a multiple Earth mass world plus potential moons is cooler than more Sednoid pygmies

Anonymous No. 16362283

>>16362267
Its actually not that. The group is around 70-90 AU out, which is near Sedna's PERIHELION not aphelion or inbetween. They say
> The new result has multiple implications. One is that the Kuiper Belt may extend farther than formerly believed, or that there is a second Kuiper Belt beyond the one observationally discovered in the 1990s. A second implication is that the New Horizons spacecraft, now about 60 times as far from the Sun as Earth, is not past the Kuiper Belt as earlier expected.
Honestly, now I'm just more confused. You would think that the planetary disc would leave a pretty smooth distribution all the way out to its edges, but if it turns out we actually have a second outer belt, then what cleared out most of the stuff in between? It cant be planet 9 because that was theorized to have a high inclination to match the theory. Also, how long until more of these new objects are actually found and identified if they exist, or how can they verify if NH is past the kuiper belt or not?

Anonymous No. 16362284

Tim: When was Blue Origin founded again?
Bezos: *long audible inhale*

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Anonymous No. 16362285

>>16362279
Blue Origin is going to have to design a whole new stage 0 for second stage landings if they want to copy SpaceX at this point

Anonymous No. 16362286

>>16362279
How does it simulate mass?

Anonymous No. 16362287

>>16362284
Thats insane

Anonymous No. 16362288

>>16362286
I guess it has more stuff attached to it to simulate vibrations etc instead of just being "mass"

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Anonymous No. 16362291

>>16362285
>Tim:That is...
*Bezos looks over*

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>>16362291
pivot point of the erector

Anonymous No. 16362293

>>16362283
>You would think that the planetary disc would leave a pretty smooth distribution all the way out to its edges
Why would I think that?

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Anonymous No. 16362294

>>16362292
large hydraulic actuators partly undegroudn

Anonymous No. 16362296

>>16362239
hot gox and lox? am I retarded

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Anonymous No. 16362297

Eric Berger has had just about enough of SLS, thank you very much.

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Anonymous No. 16362298

>>16362294
water cooled flame duct

Anonymous No. 16362301

>>16362297
based

Anonymous No. 16362302

>>16362256
>population of very distant bodies in the Kuiper Belt
the kuiper belt is full of bodies. what makes these ones any different?

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Anonymous No. 16362303

>>16362298
175m tall lightning arrestor tower

Anonymous No. 16362305

>>16362293
I mean like smooth decrease in distribution when it was first formed no? Maybe im stupid here but mass density of the disk would smoothly decrease the further out you get if no other planetary bodies have been formed yet. This would extend to modern day Kuiper belt/scattered disk since no large planetary masses have been detected that wouldve cleared a significant path in its orbit no? If this secondary outer belt does exist what wouldve made that drop in mass density between them happen?

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>>16362303

Anonymous No. 16362308

>>16362302
This is 70-90 AU out while the known kuiper belt is 30-50 AU. After that was assumed to be the scattered disk which was a far less dense area. My question is what cleared the area between 50-70 AU out if there truly is a new belt out there.

Anonymous No. 16362310

>>16362305
Why would it start smooth and then get roughened out by planets. Why wouldn’t it start irregularly dense?

Anonymous No. 16362311

>>16362208
>>16362213
yeah late May, Bezos just said it when talking about the good weather

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>>16362310
Why would it do that you think? You can see in these images that they start out with a smooth distribution, and those extra belts/cleared bands are from planetary masses sucking in everything in their orbit. Its why planets have the requirement of clearing their orbit to be classified as such. These generally have a pretty smooth distribution though like I thought. I can look into it more I guess

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Anonymous No. 16362322

>>16362306

Anonymous No. 16362328

>>16362082
Bet it was from those dutchboys sperging out

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>>16362322

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>>16362330

Anonymous No. 16362333

>>16362322
>Dude I almost had you

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>>16362331

Anonymous No. 16362335

https://x.com/spacex/status/1831731327898669335
Payload deploy in 9 minutes, stop by bros.

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>>16362334

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>>16362336

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>>16362339
historic blockhouse for observing launches with periscopes (cameras were shit and unreliable back then)

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>>16362342


>>16362284
>Bezos: 2000

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Anonymous No. 16362358

>>16362347
Apparently BO looked at 3-4 years at ways how to beat chemical rockets when the company was started before it came obvious only reusability mattered, chemical rockets are fine for earth launch.
Looked at different reusability architectures but decided on vertical landing
Pic related is their first prototype vehicle which was jet powered.

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>>16362358
first vertical takeoff and landing propulsion module prototyep

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>>16362359
PM2 prototype that lost its hydraulic system that didn't land
skipped PM3 and PM4 became New Shepard

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>>16362362

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Anonymous No. 16362367

>>16362364
>the real transition for Blue Origin only started two years ago from a R&D phase into a rate manufacturing phase
>our goal now is to become one of the most decisive companies and one of the best companies at rate manufacturing

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Anonymous No. 16362368

It didnt let me copy the text so heres the abstract for that New Horizons paper.

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Anonymous No. 16362371

>>16362367
>I remind people of this every chance I get: spaceflight is a solved problem
>It has been solved for 50 years
>What is unsolved is the cost, we need to do it 100x cheaper

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Anonymous No. 16362376

Apparently Netflix is making a documentary about SpaceX/Starbase/Starship

https://x.com/INiallAnderson/status/1831497756214767725

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Anonymous No. 16362377

>>16362371
>when two college kids in a dorm room can build the next big space company
>If they can, we did our jobs right
>the barrier of entry is too big
>the primary reason I left my CEO role at Amazon was to focus my time on Blue Origin
>I am still very involved with Amazon mostly on the AI side, but Blue is where I put most of my productive efforts
>I am working harder than I ever have

Anonymous No. 16362379

>>16362328
Jannies are B*lgian, confirmed.
>>16362368
Damn, there's still so much we don't know of our own solar system. Imagine if SpaceX were allowed to play with nuclear, they could be launching swarms of deep-space probes with Starship left and right in all directions to explore it all. That begs the question, is there even enough nuclear material ready to be used like this? Or would Musk have to found NuclearX?

Anonymous No. 16362381

>>16362371
>we need to do it 100x cheaper
New Glenn will NOT be the rocket to make that happen.

Anonymous No. 16362383

>>16362376
For me, it's "Mars: Inside SpaceX" from NatGeo. I loved that documentary, it really gives you goosebumps during some parts, felt like a movie. I wish they did a second part that is now focused on Starship.

Anonymous No. 16362389

>>16362226
>Earth
Earthers (derogatory)
>Moon
Wardens (keeping the earthers' heads down, thank you for your service)
>Asteroids
Hobos (travelling workers, respectable)
>Mars
People

Anonymous No. 16362391

>>16362297
Berger wants those SRBs gone just as much as >we do

Anonymous No. 16362393

>>16362240
They could have used the identical premise (Earth cuts off support for space) without also writing that the space people need to scoop Earth's air. The space people just need to be struggling.

Anonymous No. 16362394

>>16362379
>if SpaceX were allowed to play with nuclear, they could be launching swarms of deep-space probes with Starship left and right in all directions to explore it all.
SpaceX isn't in the probe business because it's neither profitable nor useful as a step towards colonizing Mars. Congress wouldn't pay for a hundred kuiper belt probes even with the launch costs reductions SpaceX could bring to the table. Congress would pay for one probe and they'd give the contract to JPL and you know exactly how that would turn out.

Elon getting into nuclear would be a great idea, but not because it'd be good for advancing spaceflight. If he started mass producing cheap thorium reactors he could do to the power utilities what he's done for electric cars are space launch services.

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Anonymous No. 16362395

No one could look as good as you

Mercy

Anonymous No. 16362396

>>16362285
my thought exactly. I hope Bezos at least realizes this and has it on the table. It needs to have that barnyard engineering a la Super Heavy. Learn to make it cheap, and get the reuse to 50, 100, 250 flights, even more…
Right now GS1 is an artesian factory princess that can only be reused, at best, 25 times. That’s not good enough

Anonymous No. 16362397

>>16362244
All of the suffering in the entire universe's history has been localized to Earth

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Anonymous No. 16362399

>>16362389
>Hobos (travelling workers, respectable)
An' don' you fuckin' ferget it, bub

Anonymous No. 16362401

>>16362297
EUS makes berger seethe—and rightly so

Anonymous No. 16362402

>>16362395
>Getting 69 on the cover of AvWeek
Nice

Anonymous No. 16362404

>>16362396
its basically a scaled up F9 but big enough that second stage reuse might be possible and make sense unlike with F9 second stage

Anonymous No. 16362405

>>16362391
The SRBs are actually the least bad part of SLS. They're only slow and expensive when you're comparing them to anything other than the rest of rocket that they're flying on. Next to the EUS debacle BOLE is a dream.

Anonymous No. 16362407

>>16362391

Without them, SLS can't even get off the pad. Suppose Congress could fund liquid strapons, but that's another 10 years and $10 billion.

The Faggot No. 16362411

>>16362404
You're in danger fag...

Because it's retard flu season and all retards are gonna die soon, to retard flu, you retard.

Anonymous No. 16362417

>>16362394
>SpaceX isn't in the probe business because it's neither profitable nor useful as a step towards colonizing Mars.
I'm aware, but with the price reductions that Starship will be able to offer I'm sure many institutions and some companies will start looking into it and we'll get something. Not saying it will happen overnight, but it's a good prospect compared to the alternative that oldspace offered us: maybe 1 or 2 more probes into the Kuiper Belt this century(!!) and.. that's it. Also, I can see them developing in the future something similar to RocketLab's Photon, basically a common bus for anyone to customize. The only roadblock here is the nuclear part and the DSN thing, but the latter would be more trivial to solve.

Anonymous No. 16362422

>>16362244
I don't know anon, life on TOI-1431b might suck if you're not a fan of hot weather, but that's just my opinion.

Anonymous No. 16362430

>>16362393
The "space people" are all in habitats in Earth orbit that were never intended for self sufficiency; there is no presence elsewhere.

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Anonymous No. 16362431

https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/1f9nk12/comment/llmtd7e/

Anonymous No. 16362433

>>16362407
>but that's another 10 years and $10 billion.
It's a great idea, then, as long as oldspace gets the contracts.

Anonymous No. 16362436

fags

Anonymous No. 16362439

>>16362391
Berger doesn't care about the SRB, they are actually on time and budget.

LRB would be better but at this point unless SpaceX or Blue were given the contract it would be another 5 years a billions of dollars.

Anonymous No. 16362440

>>16362394
Agreed on the nuclear reactor point except the specifics around the fuel choice really don't matter, what actually matters is having ~10 megawatt electric scale modular reactors with high core temperatures that can be deployed on the Moon and Mars.

A 10 MWe reactor needs roughly a 30 MWt radiator. For a radiator with 0.9 emissivity (equal to brick) that means a radiator 12,000 meters square, or 110x110 meters. Sounds like a lot, but it's something that could be delivered in a small number of Starship launches, and once we have one reactor running and supplying a constant 10 MWe day and night, fabricating more radiator panels for additional reactors becomes very doable. A radiator panel can be as simple as a printed aluminum plate with internal fluid channels and a top coat of lunar/mars dust sintered on to increase the emissivity. Hook them up to a thermal fluid distribution manifold and you're done.

Also high temperature reactors are beneficial for the Moon in particular because it means even in daylight the radiator can remain much hotter than the surrounding land yet still be cooler than the reactor core.

Anonymous No. 16362443

>>16362430
More author retardation. Thank you for warning me to stay away from that book.

Anonymous No. 16362448

>>16362431
I get that that’s the spacex dickriding subreddit but damn they’re bending over backward to claim NG will be worse than FH

Anonymous No. 16362449

>>16362443
that is something that might happen
lets say someone like bezos wins, he prefers to build O'neill rings and so on instead of going to Mars so there is no permanent (at least big enough to be anywhere near self-sufficient) colony on Mars and a bunch of space stations around earth
suddenly communists get in power and they want to kill all "rich people", this would include anybody that has gone to space, but they also kill the people responsible for launching rockets so they can't do anything with space stations (at least on the short term)
a martian base would die off, space stations with perhaps more consumables might survive a while longer
kind of contrived still though lol

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Anonymous No. 16362460

https://x.com/AJ_FI/status/1831558113616408701
>ILRS: Senegal joins the China-led International Lunar Research Station. In addition, subnational entities from UAE, Switzerland, Serbia, Pakistan and South Africa have signed up.

>At the opening ceremony, Li Guoping, chief engineer of the China National Space Administration, signed the "Agreement on Cooperation on the International Lunar Research Station" with Maram Kaye, Director of the Senegalese Space Agency. The Deep Space Exploration Laboratory signed the “Deep Space Exploration Laboratory” with 10 international institutions such as the Belgrade Observatory in Serbia, the Swiss Spacetalk Company, the United Arab Emirates Orbital Space Company, the Panama Space Science Innovation Center, Banda Lampung University in Indonesia, the National University of Science and Technology of Pakistan, the "Belt and Road" Science and Technology Association, the South African Radio Observatory, the African Space Development Foundation, and the African Business Alliance.

Anonymous No. 16362469

>>16362460
I'm surprised there are still no countries apart of both.

Anonymous No. 16362496

>>16362469
Peru is kinda on both sides. They're an Artemis signatory, but they're also a part of the Asia-Pacific Space Cooperation Organization which is organized by China. The UAE and Switzerland are both in Artemis but now have companies headquartered in them in ILRS. I'm not sure what ties Rwanda, Angola, and Nigeria have with the African Business Alliance but they're all Belt and Road members.

The big ones to keep an eye on are Turkey and Indonesia. Both of them are geopolitically important countries that have expressed and pursued interests in space and they're both very good at playing the East-versus-West game.

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Anonymous No. 16362499

https://x.com/Gwynne_Shotwell/status/1831754119461384435

Anonymous No. 16362505

>>16362499
based mommy shotwell

Anonymous No. 16362512

>>16362469
didnt UAE try but the US threatened them into abandoning the idea?

Anonymous No. 16362513

>>16362469
They are political signaling by non spaceflight countries of whose side said country is on.

Anonymous No. 16362526

>>16362513
That's pretty much where we're at. Turkey and Indonesia haven't declared for a side and probably won't baring some major development on Earth. Iran, the Stans, and North Korea haven't signed on with ILRS but that's just a formality, as is Taiwan's current non-signatory status. The remainder of the ESA only accounts for about 5% of the agency's budget and doesn't have a big industrial interest like Germany, France, and Italy, so it's safe to say that space just isn't a priority for them. None of the other countries on the map really matter.

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Anonymous No. 16362529

https://x.com/sen/status/1831693269790503027
>We are now commissioning our 4K cameras on the International Space Station. This is a timelapse of one of the views we are seeing from our horizon camera...

Didn't someone just mention ISS camera quality in the last thread or two?

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Anonymous No. 16362548

>>16362439

>the SRB are actually on time and budget!

> To replace the asbestos-based insulation used in the shuttle-era boosters, Northrop Grumman initially signed a $4.4 million contract modification in 2011. However, the final cost billed to NASA amounted to $253 million, including $28.5 million in award fees.

> NASA contracting officers opposed paying the award fee and rejected two requests from Northrop Grumman. However, agency officials circumvented standard procedures by convening an “independent assessment team” comprised of former NASA employees, who ultimately recommended paying the award fee. The inspector general’s report criticizes this move as a “significant and continuous disregard for Agency regulations and official processes”.

Anonymous No. 16362553

Have any suborbital launches been conducted from bodies other than earth?
There have of course been a number of rockets launched from the moon, but only orbital to my knowledge.

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Anonymous No. 16362555

The Boing Starliner is planned to undock from ISS in approximately 27 hours.
What are your predictions for what happens?

Anonymous No. 16362559

>>16362296
gaseous oxygen and liquid oxygen

Anonymous No. 16362560

>>16362555
Bunch of failures that look bad but wouldn’t have actually killed the crew. More thrusters, maybe the parachutes or airbags in such a way that redundancy would have covered them.

Anonymous No. 16362562

>>16362548
That's not good or acceptable, but compared to the shitshow of ML-2/EUS or how the core stage crew at Michoud are too diverse to weld properly it's barely noticeable.

Anonymous No. 16362565

>>16362555
Burns up on reentry

Anonymous No. 16362566

>>16362548
>change requirements after the contract was signed
>it results in additional costs

One of the greatest advantages of fixed priced contracts is it forces NASA to stop fucking around and creating acope creep.

Anonymous No. 16362572

>>16362553
The moon has no atmosphere so every jump from there is technically a suborbital space launch

Anonymous No. 16362574

>>16362566

> Costs are 50x the original contracted estimate
> Why so mad?

Anonymous No. 16362581

>>16362562
SRBs are absolutely part of that shitshow
They had to completely rebuild ML1 after Artemis I because the acidic exhaust ruined the steel -- so they "borrowed" ML2 components to fix it, which pushed ML2 even further behind schedule

Anonymous No. 16362586

>>16362574
Note the anon avoids the cause of the cost increase.

Anonymous No. 16362587

>>16362581
>They had to completely rebuild ML1 after Artemis I

Where do you people come up with this stuff?

Anonymous No. 16362591

>>16362581
Plus (one of) the reason you even need these Mobile Launcher abominations is the weight of the solid boosters

Anonymous No. 16362596

>>16362529
>4K ISS video
but is it live streamed

Anonymous No. 16362608

>>16362587
https://oig.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/ig-24-011.pdf

Read the section on ML-1 damage.

Anonymous No. 16362612

>>16362555
thrusters failed before or during deorbit burn leads to starlliner sitting in a degraded but stable orbit. bonus point if one of the thrusters failed catastrophically.
realistically >>16362560

Anonymous No. 16362618

>>16362608
>Read the section on ML-1 damage.

quote it saying

>They had to completely rebuild ML1 after Artemis I because the acidic exhaust ruined the steel

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Anonymous No. 16362619

Post yfw when tomorrow it turns out shartliner would've killed them

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>>16362619

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>>16362619

Anonymous No. 16362635

>>16362308
Gaps in solar system belts are formed by planets. That's where Planet 9 is.

Anonymous No. 16362640

>>16362635
And fags are spawned by OPs

Anonymous No. 16362642

>>16362619
What would the consequences even be?

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>>16362619

Anonymous No. 16362646

>>16362635
If a super Earth was only 50-70 AU it would have been spotted long ago.

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Anonymous No. 16362658

https://x.com/AJ_FI/status/1831778804064211191
>Launch: A Long March 6 rocket lifted off from Taiyuan 1830 UTC today, carrying a new set of 10 satellites into orbit for automaker Geely's connectivity and navigation constellation.

Anonymous No. 16362663

>>16362586

The bid was for the cost of the ECO. How are you trying to justify the vendor missing their own number by 50 fold?

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>>16362658

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"Is that pounding noise from inside?"

"No! Ignore that! Detach. DETACH!"

Anonymous No. 16362675

>>16362668
what would happen to the ISS if this ripped the docking port out while it got away? Would the ISS have to be abandoned?

Anonymous No. 16362683

>>16362658
and not a peep from "astronomers" eh?

Anonymous No. 16362687

>>16362675
>ripped the docking port out
Anon.... there's nothing holding the ISS in place...

Anonymous No. 16362689

>>16362499
yay, more scammers connected to the internet

Anonymous No. 16362690

>>16362687
inertia nigga

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Anonymous No. 16362693

>>16362187
>Nobody has new ideas, we're still just making things people thought up 75 years ago
This is true for almost all advancement in technology these days, not just spaceflight. Shit like machine learning and neural networks was all thought up in '80s, we just didn't have the processing power and cloud infrastructure to pull it off on a large scale until a few years ago. Our advancement as a species isn't held back by a lack of innovation but simply an inability to devote economic resources to advancing as a species.
Humanity peaked in 20th century and we're all just coasting off the achievements of our forefathers.

Anonymous No. 16362695

>>16362555
Thrusters fire but it fails to detach. ISS ripped in half.

Anonymous No. 16362697

>>16362642
Boeing executives will blame everybody except themselves, and Bill Nelson will hold a press conference saying he is 100% certain that astronauts will ride Shartliner next time.

Anonymous No. 16362698

>>16362693
having an idea is easy, execution is hard

Anonymous No. 16362701

>>16362683
The stock LM-6 has a SSO payload of just over a ton. Once you add in the dispenser and whatever adapters it was carrying there's not much room for payload when you're dividing it ten ways. These things are practically smallsats.

Anonymous No. 16362702

>>16362658
>automaker launching their own GPS clone
yeah sure.

Anonymous No. 16362729

>>16362555
>What are your predictions for what happens?
Despite several thrusters glitching out on it the Starliner makes its way safely back to Earth, finally coming to rest at White Sands, at which point it will explode.

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Anonymous No. 16362730

I like New Glenn, I would like it a lot more if it was flying though.

Anonymous No. 16362733

>>16362690
>>16362695
They thrust like wimps when approaching/departing the ISS, it probably wouldn't rip a string

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Anonymous No. 16362742

w e t

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>>16362555
Progress-esque collision with the ISS

Anonymous No. 16362746

>>16362744
bonk

Anonymous No. 16362751

>>16362555
It lands on a Havasupai Indian's head marking it final failure.

Anonymous No. 16362752

>>16362744
This made me realize a previously unknown fear of being on a space station while a retard pilots spacecraft around it.
We can barely trust aircraft pilots, can we trust the space pilots of the future?

Anonymous No. 16362756

>>16362752
A space pilot likely won't want to fucking kill himself by accident. But I'll feed your little fear with something far, far worse: can you trust Rajeesh's autopilot docking code?

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>>16362742
Ganymede is the best celestial body for terraforming, even better than Mars in my opinion. As that inforgraphic shows, already has a lot of water, just hidden under the surface, along with a magnetosphere and a very thin oxygen atmosphere. We would just have to electrolysize enough oxygen and transport enough nitrogen to get a breathable atmosphere, assuming there's none to be extracted from the moon itself. But I don't know if it has enough mass to hold onto an atmosphere thick enough for humans and it might get pretty cold when it's in Iupiter's shadow, even if the tidal forces from Iupiter can generate heat..

Anonymous No. 16362765

>>16362761
Sitting directly in Jupiters radiation belt is great. Everyone ignore Callisto exists so this anon can be right

Anonymous No. 16362766

What did he mean by this?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1831780539998859682

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Anonymous No. 16362770

>>16362765
>Sitting directly in Jupiters radiation belt is great.
Not great, not terrible.

Anonymous No. 16362771

>>16362766
That's insane!

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Anonymous No. 16362775

>>16362766

Anonymous No. 16362778

>>16362775
It was wall.

Checking if I can see the right side of it.

Anonymous No. 16362780

>>16362449
>that is something that might happen
It really isn't. Industries for mining and fabricating in space are a prerequisite to any orbital habitats big enough to sustain life for more than a few months without in-depth support from Earth for pretty much every resource.

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Anonymous No. 16362781

https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1831804496768593988
>Freshly painted launch mount legs is always a good sign.
>9/5/24

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16362783

>>16362766
Wow [math]\unicode{x1F92F}[\math]

Anonymous No. 16362784

>>16362765
>Everyone ignore Callisto exists so this anon can be right
I actually wasn't aware Callisto had its own magnetic field until I looked it up because of your post, so I thought it wouldn't be as easy to terraform.
I stand corrected, Callisto is probably a better candidate than Ganymede because there's less radiation.

Anonymous No. 16362786

>>16362766
lmao estronaut's reply
https://x.com/erdayastronaut/status/1814601144062386479
>nooo you can only talk about space with me so I can get more Patreon gibs

Anonymous No. 16362787

>>16362635
Look at Saturn's rings. Not all gaps contain an object, some gaps come from gravitational perturbance from objects relatively very far away.

Anonymous No. 16362788

>>16362786
nice

Anonymous No. 16362790

>>16362690
Inertia doesn't matter when the thrusters can only produce a tiny force.

Anonymous No. 16362792

>>16362698
This. Ideas are a diamond dozen.

Anonymous No. 16362800

>>16362742
Outdated
>confirmed Mars has way more water than once thought, stored in a giant deep aquifer, much or most of it probably liquid
>discovered the Moon has way more potential water than thought, due to hydrogen from solar wind trapped inside dust that can be reacted with lunar oxygen to make H2O
>Speculation, but Mercury is probably just as loaded with hydrogen as the Moon, though it may have more of less depending on the affects of higher peak temperature and higher solar wind density
drink up

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Anonymous No. 16362803

>>16362756
a retarded space pilot may not be aware the action he is about to take will kill him. That's what being retarded implies.

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Anonymous No. 16362804

>>16362619
>>16362622

Anonymous No. 16362806

>>16362761
Ganymede is almost 50% water ice by mass dumbass, try to terraform that and you'll have yourself a nice multi-hundred-kilometer deep ocean world with no land and all of the previously accessible rocks and minerals sunk to the bottom.
Also, an atmosphere warm enough for a person to survive in would very rapidly escape due to the velocity of gas particles in the upper atmosphere being close to escape velocity.

Anonymous No. 16362808

>>16362784
Callisto doesn't have a magnetosphere.

Anonymous No. 16362814

>>16362784
Ganyemedes magnetic field doesnt do shit against radiation since its so weak and Callisto is outside of the radiation belt and doesnt have the issue which is precisely why its better. BTFO

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>>16362806
>a nice multi-hundred-kilometer deep ocean world with no land
that sounds perfectly habitable, unless you're a landlubber

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Incredibly Smug official CZ-6 drawing from Casc from a decade ago

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MjM5Njc4ODY1MQ==&mid=214477558&idx=2&sn=281e2e8a3cbf5c9c9ec0df6921771eeb&scene=0&key=dffc561732c22651e05936d14412fe51cc98859442db0f145170a6499d1d3ac75fc5d3e0dc5b14cf559d45b81b61103b&ascene=1&uin=NzczODc4ODQw&devicetype=Windows-QQBrowser&version=61001201&pass_ticket=cTdQIafnE4PMuChNtw0UiHL%2BCK%2BN6nuBIpSYkewKLmHdkh41BQq9AYSfV20IKqf1

>"Hello everyone, I’m the Long March 6, the latest creation of China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation, and the newest member of the Long March rocket family. My designers affectionately call me 'Liu Liu.'
>As a post-90s rocket with good looks, highlights, substance, and responsibility, I’m naturally born handsome.

[...]

>"My private special vehicle integrates functions such as transportation, vertical erection, and launch umbilical tower all in one. By sitting in it, I can complete the entire process from testing to fueling and launching. Moreover, the vehicle can be autonomously controlled through a computer, achieving self-navigation and precise positioning at the launch site, with a positioning accuracy error of no more than 5 millimeters in all three directions. Compared to this, automatic parking seems trivial. Ladies, are you tempted?"

[...]

>"Actually, I have many other highlights, but I won't go into all of them here. If you're interested, feel free to keep following me. Lastly, I have to mention my designers — their average age is under 35, they’re good-looking, promising, and single ladies, you better act fast!"

Anonymous No. 16362818

>>16362816
How would you get your food?

Anonymous No. 16362819

Upcoming predictions:
• Starliner deorbits and lands perfectly fine, and Boeing begins to snarkypost against NASA and say it was always safe
• FH-EuroClipper gets delayed right before launch, either because FH orders a hold on the countdown or because Europa Clipper has issues and they want to assess
• New Glenn goes PERFECTLY. GS1 lands fine, GS2 does what it needs to do. ESCAPADE then fails and it’s purely a Rocket Lab issue
• Too many Raptor failures during Starship flight 5, we don’t even get close to seeing a mechazilla catch—the flight itself will be worse than Flight 4

Anonymous No. 16362820

>>16362806
>>16362816
I'm up for it but only if we genetically engineer gigantic creatures to live in the depths.

Anonymous No. 16362822

>>16362786
That's insane.

Anonymous No. 16362823

>>16362817
Not clicking your CCP sanctioned virus link

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Anonymous No. 16362825

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1822421779455090791

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>>16362818
>he can't live off of hardtacks and grog

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>>16362619

Anonymous No. 16362831

>>16362786
! Concerning

Anonymous No. 16362832

Why don't normalfags know that NASA astronauts routinely fly on Soyuz, and Russian cosmonauts fly on Dragon? I have repeatedly encountered normalfags speaking with an air of authority that Americans would never fly on Soyuz because American and Russian relations are so bad the Russians would kidnap the astronauts and send them to a gulag or something, evidently oblivious to the fact that such flights are and have been taking place and everybody behaves civilly.

Anonymous No. 16362833

>>16362819
Why do you use bullet points on 4chan?

Anonymous No. 16362834

Upcoming predictions:
>everything SpaceX is involved with succeeds and everything non SpaceX is mediocre at best

Anonymous No. 16362835

>>16362766
most people who get sexually assaulted by women dont think of it as something bad or dont report it

Anonymous No. 16362836

>>16362835
joke: I think that's enough don't you

Anonymous No. 16362841

>>16362833
Greentext has been getting less engagement recently, I’ve noticed. The average /sfg/ user is zoomerbrained and will not interact unless you provide a photo or a pleasing formatting in short-form.
Don’t hate me I’m just playing the game

Anonymous No. 16362845

>>16362835
that isn't sexual assault then you retard

Anonymous No. 16362848

>>16362845
>its not stealing if i dont get caught
how did you find yourself here, you're not smart enough for /sfg/

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Anonymous No. 16362849

https://x.com/ajtourville/status/1831814351533305869

Anonymous No. 16362851

>>16362841
>muh engagement
Bitch hating people who are acting abnormal costs us nothing. Hate is always on tap for free

Anonymous No. 16362852

>>16362848
If I take something from you and you don't consider it to be stealing (lets say you know I will give it back later or you were willing to give it to me anyway), then is it stealing?
no

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Anonymous No. 16362853

>>16362849

Anonymous No. 16362857

>>16362851
Hmm good point

Anonymous No. 16362859

>>16362818
floating cities

Anonymous No. 16362861

>>16362841
that's been true for at least a decade, anon

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Anonymous No. 16362863

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1831806330899984415

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Anonymous No. 16362868

Lol
>noise in shartline
>-15$/share

Anonymous No. 16362871

>>16362868
get ready for the -100% when it crashes the ISS with no survivors

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>>16362619

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>>16362819

Anonymous No. 16362881

I really wish Mercury had more going on from a visual/geological standpoint
>inb4 it has a lot of raw materials
I mean in terms of aesthetics; volcanism, interesting features, tectonic plates, a ring system, some sort of crater not seen anywhere else

Anonymous No. 16362884

>>16362881
Being so close to the sun is its one trick.

Anonymous No. 16362885

>>16362742
Ganymede number 1

Anonymous No. 16362887

>>16362881
Everything interesting has been stripped away when you're that close to the sun.

Remember for stuff to happen you need a disequilibrium of heat, heat in itself provides no useful work as long as everything is the same temperature, no matter how hot.

Anonymous No. 16362888

>>16362881
Mercury is unironically the most boring object in our solar system. It has nothing going for it outside of being close to the sun. We should just throw it into the sun so when ayys from other star systems visit us we can brag about how we have 0 boring rocks in our solar system.

Anonymous No. 16362889

>>16362881
>he doesn't know
Mercury has some WEIRD shit. You just don't know it because you aren't interested enough to research.
https://youtu.be/B588JHKSlEE?si=JpnmicXO2vvnXCUA

Anonymous No. 16362891

>>16362881
L planet, not a single person says it’s their favorite and if they do they are just lying to be contrarian

Anonymous No. 16362892

>>16362888
We should disassemble it to make a Dyson Swarm and use the power to build laser killsats to destroy any non American spacecraft leaving Earth orbit.

Anonymous No. 16362893

>>16362887
You are wrong about Mercury. Also, half of Mercury is extremely cold at any given time. It has the most extreme day-night cycle temperature variation of any planet.

Anonymous No. 16362896

>>16362888
>Mercury is unironically the most boring object in our solar system.
Wrong. You're simply ignorant.

Anonymous No. 16362898

>>16362896
list 5 interesting facts

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Anonymous No. 16362899

>Earth is the densest planet in the solar system
Why is our planet so dense compared to other planets? Is Mother Earth really that stupid?

Anonymous No. 16362904

>>16362899
God gave us a gift of a planet, but many of us have abandoned him and turned into selfish EARTHERS

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Anonymous No. 16362905

/sfg/ is the best thing on this awful website, I appreciate all of you

Anonymous No. 16362906

>>16362213
>>16362205
Is there any meaningful information besides the tour itself?

Anonymous No. 16362907

>>16362906
you already know the answer to that, anon. What is there to even show off? kek

Anonymous No. 16362908

>>16362832
Normalfags don't even know what a fucking Soyuz is and believe astronauts still use the Shuttle to fly into space lmao

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Anonymous No. 16362910

>>16362908
shit, you're probably right

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Anonymous No. 16362912

>added 11 fucking months on Bepi Colombo's travel time because of shitty thrusters
lmao

Anonymous No. 16362913

>be FAA
>grant Varda launch license knowing full well what their payload is
>refuse reentry license
Does some regulationfag get off to acting like the DMV of space or something? What was their problem??

Anonymous No. 16362914

>>16362912
>pic related is the closest it will ever get to Mercury
LMAO

Anonymous No. 16362916

>>16362912
why aren’t impact craters more hemispherical?
Why are they all flat

Anonymous No. 16362920

So both MMX and Tianwen 3 should bring back samples in summer 2031
Very cool

Anonymous No. 16362921

>>16362898
the day/year cycle is cool

Anonymous No. 16362922

>>16362908
I was at a star party twenty years ago and they had a telescope set up early for viewing the moon before dusk set in. One of the ladies who wandered though asked if we could see where the shuttles were landing up there.

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>>16362912
>BepiComobo launched 6 years ago
wtf, felt like 2 years ago max

Anonymous No. 16362927

>>16362742
never realized how dry Earth was compared to the gas giant moons. For mining, which of these as the overall shallowest gravity well? (I know they are just moons, but you still have to escape Jupiter or Saturn.)

Anonymous No. 16362928

>>16362916
the energies of an impact cause the immediate surroundings to move like a liquid, so the crater gets filled in immediately, this is also why peaks form at the center of large craters.

Anonymous No. 16362931

>>16362927
callisto is the furthest and is the ideal candidate. All the moons except for io have large stores of ice, but calllisto is the only one far enough away to not give a lethal dose of radiation.

Europa would be lethal within a day, and ganymede within a few months.

The Jovian gravity well is much more severe than the ones surrounding the moons, so it will always be whatever body is furthest, if you're looking at it from the perspective of fuel.

Anonymous No. 16362932

>>16362695
>>16362733
They don't thrust at all. The ring has springs. They'll just wait for it to be a safe distance before firing anything

Anonymous No. 16362934

>>16362906
not really, though it confirms that bezos left Amazon to specifically focus on BO (not sure if this was the first time this has been talked about explicitly) and that they have supposedly shifted from R&D mode into production mode

Anonymous No. 16362935

>>16362733
learned from experience with the MIR collision

Anonymous No. 16362938

>>16362832
These are the same people who think that Richard Branson and Elon Musk's contributions and aspirations in spaceflight are even remotely comparable. Please understand that normies simply don't understand space or space exploration in any meaningful capacity.

Anonymous No. 16362939

>>16362555
cataclysmic failure
massive lawsuits
settle out of court and continue doing business

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Anonymous No. 16362940

>After another Boeing letdown, NASA isn’t ready to buy more Starliner missions
If it's Boeing, I ain't going

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/09/after-another-boeing-letdown-nasa-isnt-ready-to-buy-more-starliner-missions/

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Anonymous No. 16362942

'member this deathtrap?

Anonymous No. 16362946

>>16362940
NOW KILL SLS
>>16362942
My beloved

Anonymous No. 16362949

Why aren't we launching warheads to mars? Isn't it better to do that then let all those wonderful missiles phase out due to age?

Anonymous No. 16362950

>>16362949
launch them how?

Anonymous No. 16362951

>>16362922
kek

Anonymous No. 16362952

>>16362949
Who are you trying to attack? There are no martians other than earth robots. It won’t fix the climate situation, not even nukes would.

Anonymous No. 16362954

>>16362949
Earthers not motivated enough to warm Mars. Martians will do that. Also nukes are pretty inefficient

Anonymous No. 16362955

>>16362950
If they can hit russia they can hit mars
>>16362952
Missiles were made to explode not rot!

Anonymous No. 16362956

>even Blue Origin is hardware-rich compared to Boeing’s Space Launch System
Grim

Anonymous No. 16362959

>>16362934
>confirms that bezos left Amazon to specifically focus on BO
Damn, okay. That's actually the most exciting thing I've ever heard about Blorigin. I think Beñoz is despicable as a person but I admire his accomplishments with Amazon.
If he's really going all-in on BO, I expect some pretty quick progress if there's any shred of college-age Jeff still alive in his heart. At one point he really did seem passionate about space—it's a shame he let the company fucking languish for two decades. I hope he starts aggressively cutting fat in the company and redirects the brain that built Amazon toward space technology. In a truly ideal scenario, he'd abandon rockets altogether and focus on orbital vehicles and colony hardware/logistics.

Anonymous No. 16362960

>>16362955
then send them to russia idgaf

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>>16362952
>>16362955
>Attack? Martians? Climate situation?
>I just want to use nukes

Anonymous No. 16362965

>>16362959
If he was serious about space he would have stopped flying New Shepard as soon as he took his personal vanity flight

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>>16362786

Anonymous No. 16362967

>>16362955
>If they can hit russia they can hit mars
nope

Anonymous No. 16362968

>>16362967
I know a launcher that can hit Russia and can hit Mars. It’s called Proton hahahahah

Anonymous No. 16362969

>>16362967
Explain. Intercontinental missiles travel further out in space than where the ISS is

Anonymous No. 16362971

>>16362969
google it idiot

Anonymous No. 16362972

>>16362942
Terrible crew launcher but not the worst start if you were trying to design an EELV launcher in the early 2000s and wanted to use as much existing hardware as you could.

Anonymous No. 16362975

>>16362972
Brother, it used a custom upper stage and required a J-2X

Anonymous No. 16362978

>>16362971
So you don't know. Owned. I'm based and have unique cool ideas

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>>16362942
sticc >>> thicc

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>>16362942

Anonymous No. 16362982

>>16362980
early rocket payload fairings were so schizo

Anonymous No. 16362985

>>16362972
>trying to design an EELV launcher in the early 2000s and wanted to use as much existing hardware as you could.

Anon, literally just do Atlas V Heavy.

If you want to get extra fancy do the 5.1m Atlas with 2xRD180 on each core that uses as much Delta IV tooling as possible, and then tricore that within as much of the infrastructure of DIVH

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Anonymous No. 16362987

>>16362742
Hörbiger VINDICATED

Anonymous No. 16362988

>>16362942
If you think about it, one boomstick is better than two. By the time the vibrations are over, the concussions won't make you worry about the escape system effectiveness anymore.

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Anonymous No. 16362996

>9/6 scrubbed
>9/7 scrubbed
9/8 is still "go" but they're coping as the weather is honestly even worse and will be scrubbed also. The models do not lie.

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Anonymous No. 16362999

>>16362997
No offense but I don’t really care about Pluto and I’d rather have a Venus surface mission or an Enceladus or Europa submarine or something

Anonymous No. 16363000

>>16362975
Because the only upper stage engine America had at the time was the RL-10 and no one was going to suggest clustering 13 of them to match the J-2X's thrust goal. And "Custom upper stage" doesn't really mean anything. The engines are the hard part; the rest is just tanks and plumping. The J-2X would be a bitch to develop, but that's mostly because of Aerojet being Aerojet. Everything else is either simple to design or already mostly done.

The upper stage was a bit heavy as it was originally planned, but that's why its only a good start. If you make it half the original size and put a 5m Delta IV upper stage on top you'd have a launcher that could match the Ariane 5 ECA for GTO payload and double the Proton-M's GEO payload.

>>16362985
Yeah, but that'd use stinky engines from Russia, made by Russians. This rocket would be all American, with a solid fueled first stage made in Utah with the blessing of perfectly normal Mormon congressmen.

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Anonymous No. 16363002

This just in, New Glenn is a spaceplane
>by the way a little more suddle and not as big an effect [the strake] helps us on ascent
>it gives us lift
>you fly at a slight angle and it's like an airplane wing, it gives you lift

Anonymous No. 16363004

>>16362994
Stanley Kubrick did amazing work.

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Anonymous No. 16363005

>supposedly near Tycho crater
>Earth is near the horizon
BRAVO KUBRICK

Anonymous No. 16363014

>>16363002
F9 booster’s body generates lift on reentry, capsule blunt ends generates lift. What is a spaceplane, really?

Anonymous No. 16363016

>>16363005
Who cares this movie looks awesome. It’s like Blade Runner, it’s boring as all fuck but it’s full of eye candy

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Anonymous No. 16363020

Dragon should have a cool gat on board. What if they have to make an emergency landing in the wilderness? Or near niggers?

Anonymous No. 16363021

>>16363014
new glenn is actually the plane-est of spaceplanes. it uses it's wings to get up to space, not just come back.

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Anonymous No. 16363029

>>16363016
>Who cares
NORMALFAGS GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous No. 16363032

>>16362693
Neural networks as a theoretical idea date back even farther, to the 40s (Perceptron)

Anonymous No. 16363035

>>16363020
It lands in the water and niggers don't swim

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Anonymous No. 16363039

Insane phenotype convergence

Anonymous No. 16363040

>>16362505
How come Elon hasn't impregnated her yet

Anonymous No. 16363041

>>16363002
>suddle
>suddle

Anonymous No. 16363043

>>16363035
Can't guarantee a splashdown in an emergency

Anonymous No. 16363044

>>16363020
I mean isn't it a bit too late for that

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>>16362853
Look how verbose the Portuguese side is compared to the English side. Ineffective language

Anonymous No. 16363052

>>16362981
The only good idea in that entire program

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>>16363058
There’s something so organic about CRT displays and analog controls

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Anonymous No. 16363070

>>16362968
I'm sorry that can only hit Kazakhstan

Anonymous No. 16363071

https://x.com/iamgingertrash/status/1831746616610423015

Anonymous No. 16363072

>>16362969
Mars is a lot further away than the ISS lmao

Anonymous No. 16363076

>move venus to mars orbit
>combine them
>excess atmosphere ejected
>excess carbon sequestered
>magnetic field reactivated
>marnus
>1 earth mass
>1g
it's literally that easy

Anonymous No. 16363077

>>16362849
>>16362853
Literally a rounding error for SpaceX, to be fair. Brazil is basically an unflushed toilet and I don't think their government realizes how little they factor in the real-people scheme of things.

Anonymous No. 16363078

>>16363071
https://x.com/iamgingertrash/status/1830574602801602847

retarded, discarded

Anonymous No. 16363079

>>16362832
This is true, but it shouldn't be, we should not be sharing our life capacity nor our scientific data with foreign enemies.

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Anonymous No. 16363080

HOLY SHIT
Look at that wobble!
https://x.com/INiallAnderson/status/1831854674934435888

Anonymous No. 16363081

>>16363076
ok let's do it

Anonymous No. 16363085

>>16363079
>enemies
Contrary to what /k/, /pol/, reddit and youtube may be telling you, America and Russia are not at war with each other.

Anonymous No. 16363087

>>16363080
>why does my 1000 foot tall tower wobble

Anonymous No. 16363088

>>16363080
when you start building big stuff, steel is basically noodles.

Anonymous No. 16363090

>>16363080
we're going to need a bigger tower

Anonymous No. 16363091

>>16363080
Is this in real time?

Anonymous No. 16363092

>>16363085
nta I find it weird they pulled out of gateway airlock. I think they were jaded that Artemis wasn’t a 50/50 program but come on… it’s not like they could have built their own lunar rocket and lunar lander. Still though, would have been fun to go back to the Moon with POCKOCMOC. Do they think they are going to get a bunch of free shit from China with ILRS? They’re in for a rude awakening when they get backstabbed after China just steals their ideas and dismisses them

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>>16363092
In all honesty, once Starship is in serial production and regularly flying people around the solar system, I think Russia might just find an excuse to say that space sucks anyway and they never really wanted to go there and stop their manned space flight program. The alternatives to this are
>Develop their own Russian Starship clone
they can't do this, realistically or
>continue flying with legacy hardware
which invites a direct comparison between America's new hotness and their antiques.

So I think a sour-grapes bow out of space is their most likely response. "Space sucks, we didn't want to go there anyway."

Anonymous No. 16363094

>>16363087
>why does my 460ft tower wobble
ftfy

Anonymous No. 16363095

I'm in Las Cruces NM. should I go watch the fireball tomorrow?

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Anonymous No. 16363096

>>16363080

Anonymous No. 16363097

>>16363096
looks like spacex did some absolutely retarded design work, yet again, wasting months of effort, and not even fucking counter balancing weights

Anonymous No. 16363098

>>16363096
needs mass damper

Anonymous No. 16363099

>>16363096
they just need to add another pair of arms on the other side to cancel out the wobble. elon get on this

Anonymous No. 16363100

>>16363093
They’ll have Orel but all it will do is visit their cuckstation

Anonymous No. 16363104

>>16363091
Absolutely not, it the sticks could whip closed that fast then there would be bigger structural issues to deal with.

Anonymous No. 16363106

>>16363085
>>16363092
I wish we were closer with them, it would be kino. It's not like they actually like China more than us anyway, the Chinese would eat them if they thought they could. Russian+American moonbase would be pure SOVL, we could squash the bugmen easy. Plus, I'm sure the Russians still have good scientists that could really do with some funding, we could revitalize the Russian soace industry.

Anonymous No. 16363108

>>16363096
>>16363098
Elon, give them a call
https://youtu.be/DMqpMXzcnZA

Anonymous No. 16363109

>>16363080
>Steel tower wobble
Retard low iq like this idiot ruined sfg

Anonymous No. 16363110

>>16363096
Alright /sfg/ explain why this is a problem in fifty words or less.

Anonymous No. 16363114

>>16363110
it would be a problem if it wasn’t wobbling

Anonymous No. 16363118

>>16363093
The Russian space program has existed in a perpetual stage of "it's so over" ever since the Wall came down. They'll manage to keep trundling on somehow, and there will still be R7s flying after the Falcon 9 has finally retired. Soyuz was good enough for Brezhnev, it's good enough for you.

Anonymous No. 16363121

>>16363110
moment of inertia is too large

Anonymous No. 16363124

>>16363096
LOOK AT THAT "SHAKE", NO GOOD. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN "SPACE CADETS" TRY TO BUILD SOMETHING. IF IT WAS A REAL AMERICAN COMPANY LIKE BECHTEL THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM.
-RON
Sent from my Google Pixel 6 Pro

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Anonymous No. 16363125

>Noooooo the tower can't be wiggly wobbly, it's far too wibbly woobly, it can't be flippity floppying!
>Why?
>IT JUST CAN'T
Hypothesis: nothing will be done about this and it will never be a problem.

Anonymous No. 16363126

>>16363096
Put guidewires on it like radio towers.

Anonymous No. 16363129

>>16363096
think about how much work and changes the OLM has had to go through. now think about how they haven't even started testing the tower in the same way

Anonymous No. 16363131

did someone say wobble
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0UYNoTPdNs

Anonymous No. 16363132

>>16363125
Indeed the advantage of steel is no fatigue limit

Anonymous No. 16363134

>>16363100
>they'll have Orel
lol, lmao

Anonymous No. 16363135

>>16363131
>a dozen guys and a rope
Space will never be this kino again will it

Anonymous No. 16363136

>>16363098
More buildings need big pendulums on display
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkz6b7Q3dRk

Anonymous No. 16363138

>>16363126
guidewires are cope

Anonymous No. 16363140

>>16363138
Talk like a real person

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Anonymous No. 16363145

>>16363140
Im assuming real people talk with a cock stuffed in their mouth like you have right now?

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Anonymous No. 16363148

>>16363141
>that first stage reusability with parachutes

Anonymous No. 16363149

>>16363147
>always was

Anonymous No. 16363150

>>16363141
>parachute attached to the side
even my estes rockets did it better

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Anonymous No. 16363151

>>16362555
checked

Anonymous No. 16363153

>>16362555
>burns up columbia style
>boeing pretends they were always against returning on starliner
>old space goes along with the gaslighting

Anonymous No. 16363156

>>16363096
Uh oh muskrats our response?

Anonymous No. 16363158

>>16363141
>space checker game
oh shit we forgot there's no gravity!

Anonymous No. 16363160

>>16362744
>bonk
>ding
>clang
I didn't know there was video of this. Imagine the horror of watching this from the station.

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Anonymous No. 16363170

>>16363162
Enjoy your vacation

Anonymous No. 16363171

>>16363158
Fucking magnets, how do they work?

Anonymous No. 16363173

>>16363072
You don't know how force works in space? Like seriously?

Anonymous No. 16363174

>>16362555
Hot damn did Nauka spin the station that quick? Also got damn did they work to bury that failure.

Anonymous No. 16363178

>>16363174
No I think it took like 45 minutes or something

Anonymous No. 16363181

>>16362744
if this happened and iss got severe damage, forcing everyone to evacuate rapidly, and there are not enough escape seats, could spacex use their polaris dragon to help them in less than 24 hours?

Anonymous No. 16363185

>>16363181
there are enough escape seats for everyone onboard

Anonymous No. 16363187

>>16363125
The wobble doesn't worry me about the steel structure's integrity, but it does make me worry about the attainable precision with the chopsticks.

Anonymous No. 16363189

>>16363187
Its a nothing burger in the grand scheme. These heavy, alpha prototype chopsticks are gonna get nuked in 3 weeks, and replaced with something more nimble anyway.

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>>16363181
only if it goes up specifically to ISS, it can't just casually change orbits
but there's "cargo" space under the seats, so they could just stow down there if they have to with an existing crew Dragon
hopefully they'll at least get usable suits sent up first

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Anonymous No. 16363191

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGUkhL4FCIQ
Falcon's up with a payload that's not (technically) Starlink
T-27:00

https://spaceflightnow.com/2024/09/06/live-coverage-spacex-to-launch-falcon-9-rocket-on-national-security-mission-for-the-nro/
>SpaceX is preparing to launch a Falcon 9 rocket with an undisclosed number of satellites on behalf of the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). The spacecraft, which are believed to be Starshield satellites, make up the third batch of what the NRO calls its “proliferated architecture.” Liftoff of the NROL-113 mission from Vandenberg Space Force Base is set for 8:20 p.m. PDT (11:20 p.m. EDT, 0320 UTC). Spaceflight Now will have live coverage beginning about 30 minutes prior to launch.

Anonymous No. 16363193

>>16363191
Always amazed at how many normalfags have never heard of the NRO. Even people with career ties to the aerospace industry.

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Anonymous No. 16363196

https://x.com/BoeingSpace/status/1831763993930952890

Anonymous No. 16363197

>>16363185
>there are enough escape seats for everyone onboard

Count again.

Anonymous No. 16363204

>>16363191
https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1BdGYEbwzMlGX

Anonymous No. 16363206

>>16363204
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=nrol-113
SpaceX.com link, because X wont stream in Firefox

Anonymous No. 16363208

>>16363206
First I've heard of that. It's streaming fine for me right now

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>>16363208
WORKS ON MY MACHINE!

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Anonymous No. 16363211

>>16362448
>claim NG will be worse than FH
>most successful rocket of all time
vs
>literally nothing. zero launches. zero orbital flight experience

Anonymous No. 16363212

...what was that accent

Anonymous No. 16363213

>>16362555
mass casualty event

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>>16362619

Anonymous No. 16363218

bfoost

Anonymous No. 16363220

>>16362832
>>16362833
• normgroids are not human

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Anonymous No. 16363222

abort

Anonymous No. 16363236

>>16362899
Theia collision.
>Gee, Gaia, how come the Sun lets you have TWO cores?

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Anonymous No. 16363238

i'm australian so my time zones are all fucked up. is the polaris thing still launching at 3:33am in american time on friday

Anonymous No. 16363242

>>16363079
>we should not be sharing our life capacity nor our scientific data with foreign enemies.
this, I hear GREATEST ALLY just sells our military tech to China for some extra shekels anyway

Anonymous No. 16363245

>>16363242
They do. That's why the F-22 is unavailable for export, the F-35I is a stripped monkey model, and the feds leaned on Intel to block a new fab in Israel.

Anonymous No. 16363248

>>16363238
no

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Anonymous No. 16363260

>>16363173
you don't know how energy works in space? seriously?

Anonymous No. 16363262

>>16363197
the current plan is for the extra astronauts to ride Mexican style in the cargo bed of the Dragon that's up there

Anonymous No. 16363263

>>16363238
The weather is no go for the foreseeable future, so the astronauts have been busy posting glam shots on X of them flying jets around the cape in formation, posing for selfies with the rocket, doing a workout routine, driving around in cool cars, and watching Netflix while in quarantine waiting for a chance to launch.

Anonymous No. 16363290

>>16363260
Man you're seething. Got you good

Anonymous No. 16363292

>>16362940
Boing!

>>16362946
Killing SLS isn't good when Starship hasn't demonstrated reuse yet. Let it stumble along until it can be replaced in one stroke.

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>>16363290

Anonymous No. 16363298

>>16363162
What's the original photo?

Anonymous No. 16363301

>>16362888
dont be mean to mercury
>solar irradiance is nearly 7 times higher than on earth which is a lot of energy that can be harvested with solarpanels
>assuming an efficency of 10%, its enough to have a 1000x1000 meter area of solar panels to produce ~1 gigawatt
>huge temperature gradiant between surface and underground
>since there is no atmosphere its enough to simply create a shadow to have a cool area
>rich in water and hydrocarbonates in permanently shadowed craters on the poles
>perfect launchpad for solar sails and spacecrafts powered by beam propulsion
mercury will be the energetic powerhouse of the solar system

Anonymous No. 16363307

q-ball infection spooks me

Anonymous No. 16363308

>>16362925
You really want to feel old? New Horizons did the Pluto flyby almost a decade ago

Anonymous No. 16363311

>>16363308
What the fuck

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Anonymous No. 16363319

>>16363301
>permanently shadowed craters on the poles
I'm getting pretty sick of these things
Let's see if they pay off
All fart and no shit at this point

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Ship 31 headed out for engine testing

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Anonymous No. 16363328

>40+ years of playing with rocks
>except the one time they didn't
>learn the experiment returned a false negative
>do nothing
I hate scientists, especially NASA scientists
https://rsdancey.medium.com/why-isn-t-nasa-looking-for-life-1ab2542ede29

Anonymous No. 16363330

>>16363328
They're going out of their way to not detect life

Anonymous No. 16363342

>>16362376
do you think it'll be a hitpiece? Netflix has been fair to spacex in the past?

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Anonymous No. 16363347

>>16362078
i just woke up! i am so excited to watch the polaris dawn mission today!!

Anonymous No. 16363356

>>16363347
You'll have to settle for Boeing's fireworks show.

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Anonymous No. 16363361

What would he think bros

Anonymous No. 16363362

>>16363356
Shut up chud it will come down fully intact

Anonymous No. 16363368

>>16363110
Cycling causes fatigue cracks in the bolts, and the whole thing falls apart as it catches its 13th booster

Anonymous No. 16363373

>>16363347
Same! I stayed up all night in preparation

Anonymous No. 16363376

>>16363330
They know if the first detection of life on Mars isn't an astronaut with an American flag stepping out of a lander the planetary protection niggers will throw decades of fits.

Anonymous No. 16363377

>>16362205
>wow that's crazy
>just look at the size of these things
>that's insane
MAKE IT STOP

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>>16363347

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Anonymous No. 16363380

>>16363361
rolling in his grave.
But, he is dispersed
William Boeing died on September 28, 1956, at the age of 74. His ashes were scattered off the coast of British Columbia, where he spent much of his time sailing. He was posthumously inducted into the National Aviation Hall of Fame in Dayton, Ohio, in 1966.

Anonymous No. 16363381

>>16363361
He'd change his name to William E. Boing to distance himself from the company.

Anonymous No. 16363387

>>16362219
Not just NBC, NBCUniversal and all their associated theme parks, hotels, cruise branding, etc.
Theme parks make up something like 30% of Disney's revenue and I don't doubt it's similar for NBCU

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Anonymous No. 16363394

>>16363381
How far we have fallen. It was a good run

Anonymous No. 16363404

thrusters overheat while it is departing from station. then what?

Anonymous No. 16363405

>>16362981
If this part wasn't contracted to Vekoma I would've been mad

Anonymous No. 16363414

>>16363404
Tethered EVA to give it a good flying kick.

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Anonymous No. 16363419

>>16362742
>>16363328
>>16363330
>water is essential to life on mars
>okay, there is water on the poles
>umm we're NOT looking for life or water just SIGNS of them
>follow the science :^)
>okay, the decadal survey says do an icy moons mission
>NO not like that
>congress said do it or else
>.....
>land on europa? haha what, are you crazy?
>oops didn't design the radiation hardening properly might miss the launch window
>you are here
>europa clipper launch decision in 3 days
Still haven't taken a ice core sample from the Martian poles or even proposed to do so despite mission proposals existing since the 70s. They do just enough PR to satiate the ohmyscience redditor crowd and protect their jobs program while the entrenched scientific bureaucracy navelgazes. May Chudlon's efficiency committee feast on their corpse.

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Anonymous No. 16363422

cool as fuck book

Anonymous No. 16363427

>>16363419
>Chapter 1: Cancel SLS
>Chapter 2: fit JPL management with Neuralinks and zap them for delays or cost overruns
>Chapter 3: repeal the Civil Rights Act

Anonymous No. 16363442

>>16363376
Never thought about it like that
But then again people that bitch about planetary protection are easily ignored and don't have meaningful power. Especially once SpaceX starts rolling to Mars

Anonymous No. 16363456

>>16363361
>at the Dominguez Flying Meet, Boeing asked every pilot foreign and domestic if he could go for an airplane ride and was repeatedly denied except for French aviator Louis Paulhan. Boeing waited and Paulhan finished the meet and left, never giving Boeing his ride.
>Louis Paulhan, a French aviator from southern France
>Airbus, an aerospace company based in southern France
A rivalry foretold.

Anonymous No. 16363484

https://x.com/boringcompany/status/1831898124690031008

Anonymous No. 16363501

>>16362832
Some normies think that Space Shuttle is still flying.

Anonymous No. 16363509

>>16363328
What NASA learned from the Viking experiments is that identifying life remotely is incredibly hard, you have to make lots of assumptions about the soil chemistry because you cannot measure everything in one tiny little package. What they learned from ALH84001 mars meteorite "fossil" debacle was that the evidence for life must be indisputable or you are just setting yourself up for humiliation. Better to be slow and cautious than ruin your reputation. For a more recent example see the arsenic life announcement by NASA made in 2010. That was organisms in labs on Earth, and they still fucked it up.

Also it's misleading to say there haven't been any more experiments, there have been better instruments they just aren't specifically called life experiments. Curiosity's SAM is a much better sample analyzer than Viking's GCMS. It has detected organic compounds. Then there is ESA's TGO which studies the atmospheric organic compounds like methane, which failed to detect it to very low levels. If you're still upset about this ESA's ExoMars rover will carry a newer instrument like Viking GCMS.

Anonymous No. 16363523

>>16363096
I really hate how the larger you build something the more it starts behaving like jello. How the hell are we supposed to build ringworlds and dyson spheres like this?

Anonymous No. 16363527

>>16362742
I didn't know Titan had water at all.

Anonymous No. 16363540

>>16363523
>hate
It's a nothing. Skyscrapers wiggle all the time and they're fine.

Anonymous No. 16363561

>>16362331
>It's over.

Anonymous No. 16363573

>>16362693
>Shit like machine learning and neural networks was all thought up in '80s
Lol, not it wasn't. Neural nets were invented in 1958 by a guy named rosenblatt.

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Anonymous No. 16363577

https://x.com/ZhanPoasts/status/1831781216342962360

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Anonymous No. 16363578

>>16363577
two more weeks

Anonymous No. 16363579

>>16363379
Hey isn't this that guy from the IT Crowd

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Anonymous No. 16363580

https://x.com/VardaSpace/status/1831775149936537949

Anonymous No. 16363582

>>16362832
Normalfags don't care about or think about space. Why do you keep asking these shit questions?

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Anonymous No. 16363583

>>16363580

Anonymous No. 16363599

>>16363523
Material science will invent us a super strong, super cheap alloy hopefully

Anonymous No. 16363601

>>16363141
sovl
I miss the optimism people had for the future in last century

Anonymous No. 16363603

>>16363599
discover, not invent

Anonymous No. 16363615

>>16362121
government will always be corrupt and stupid

Anonymous No. 16363617

>>16363523
I'll be disappointed if we don't see some sway simulations for booster catch. Just for autism's sake.

Anonymous No. 16363618

>>16362268
Does this mean New Glenn is real? I thought it was just a CAD model reposted by media.

Anonymous No. 16363621

>>16363618
I guess you didn't watch part 1?
yes its real

Anonymous No. 16363625

>>16363621
He's just being stupid on purpose, as a joke.

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Anonymous No. 16363635

>>16362761
I think Ganymede's lack of gravity is likely at a point which would cause permanent issues for the human body. Mars is at least a lot more liveable in that respect.

Anonymous No. 16363639

>>16363635
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

Anonymous No. 16363643

>>16362853
What are the odds this judge was paid off by desperate oldspace trying to smear starlink?

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Anonymous No. 16363652

>>16363643
Zero.
He's just a power tripping socialist. No need for dirty money to explain his behavior.

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Anonymous No. 16363659

>>16363656
based lockheedchads

Anonymous No. 16363663

>>16363603
If it doesn't exist in nature than it's invention. It's not like we say we discovered that the correct arrangement of iron atoms makes a steam engine.

Anonymous No. 16363686

>>16362766
>mention sexual assault and inhuman deviants that deform their bodies to spite God
>Krassenstein the Jew personally offended
how curious

Anonymous No. 16363698

>>16363663
it exists in nature somewhere bozo, the universe is a huge laboratory

Anonymous No. 16363699

>>16362906
This shit is insane. They haven't meaningfully tested any of this shit. I give NG low odds of surviving a few seconds into the launch, let alone achieving orbit. Landing is a pipe dream.

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Anonymous No. 16363701

>>16362888
Mercury is basically Moon tier

Anonymous No. 16363702

>>16363698
with that logic nothing is ever invented

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Anonymous No. 16363704

https://x.com/KenKirtland17/status/1831740305499951361

Anonymous No. 16363713

What would be the national anthem of mars?

Anonymous No. 16363715

>>16363702
I’m not arguing for a complex meme boltzmann brain or some randomly assembled clock with gears and dials floating around out there that assembled from pure chance.
I’m just saying there is a pretty good certainty that almost any and every combination of chemicals exists, or has at least existed at some point, given the sheer size of the universe (beyond huge), given the sheer amounts of stars with planets that can act as chemical laboratories (again, it’s a huge number), and given the age of the universe (billions and billions of years)
Any alloy you can think of could have been naturally forged by complete chance on some strange world far far away, simply by virtue of natural reactions.
Just look at Earth, it created life. That’s pretty strange isn’t it? Is it more crazy to say steel was forged somewhere else, with iron mixing with natural carbonate deposits somehow and making some super-meme alloy that mirrors what we make here on Earth?

Anonymous No. 16363717

>>16363715
I don't think the distinction is meaningful

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Anonymous No. 16363721

>>16363704
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1831727479502884923

Anonymous No. 16363723

Total SLS death

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Anonymous No. 16363728

https://x.com/DrPhiltill/status/1831753884777566414

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Anonymous No. 16363734

https://x.com/realhomerhickam/status/1831696896806543426

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Anonymous No. 16363737

https://x.com/realhomerhickam/status/1831841958131642565

Homer Hickam thinks SLS will be cancelled by 2026

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Anonymous No. 16363740

>>16363704
holy fuck there really are retards arguing sls is underfunded.

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Anonymous No. 16363743

https://x.com/realhomerhickam/status/1831787130059657515

SLS is a Goldberg Machine t: Hickam

Anonymous No. 16363744

>>16363740
I somehow doubt even doubling would really make things faster
the contractors are incentivized to drag this out as long as possible due to cost+
if the contracts were bigger, then the incentive would just be that much higher

Anonymous No. 16363753

>>16363580
I wonder how the FAA will fuck this one up
>we gave you a reentry license but not a landing one so the return capsule is never allowed to touch the ground

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Anonymous No. 16363754

>>16363737
Homer is so real for this damn
Total SLS slaughter and gutting

Anonymous No. 16363756

Seriously wtf do we do about the lunar vehicle problem? All America has right now is Orion and on top of being laughably expensive, it has a fundamental design flaw that endangers humans and the fix could add years of delay to Artemis.
Not a single commercial company has plans to build a lunar-capable vehicle that could replace Orion. This is a problem. Who could step up to the plate? SpaceX?

Anonymous No. 16363760

>>16363756
Why can't lunar starship replace orion?

Anonymous No. 16363761

>>16363728
>In the near future I probably will call for cancellation of an aspect of SLS
once new glenn flies successfully berger is going to call for GS2 to replace EUS

Anonymous No. 16363763

>>16363760
It’s not going to be able to launch and land humans for quite a while. Yes you could find a way to do a dragon rendezvous in LEO but what about getting back? You’d need to do aerobreaking to kill that interplanetary velocity (NASA would say no to that). Orion’s advantage, on paper, is that it can simply return to Earth and reenter in the event of an emergency.
A manned starship would not have that advantage for a long time. You’d be better off doing a lunar dragon with upgrades

Anonymous No. 16363764

>>16363756
SpaceX and Blue Origin maybe
perhaps some old space if they weren't forced to do specific things by congress
you could run a competition to replace SLS/Orion, just cancel the whole program
like said in the X comments above, none of this tech is useful for subsequent products, its all obsolete: SLS, Orion, the transporter tower, even Gateway is just retarded and pointless and basically just uses the old tech of ISS?
there is nothing worth salvaging

Anonymous No. 16363766

>>16363761
GS2 or Vulcan Centaur too?

Anonymous No. 16363769

>>16363763
>You’d need to do aerobreaking
No you wouldn't. In one of eager spaces videos he proposes an architecture where you send a tanker starship to refuel lunar starship in LLO and apparently if you do this you can land the tanker via aerobrake and the lunar starship will have enough fuel to slow into LEO.

Anonymous No. 16363772

>>16363769
Oh hmm. Berger mentioned, a long time ago, that HLS Moonship might be able to return to LEO. He was probably referring to this exact method.
Honestly that’s not a bad plan because it gets you more use out of Lunar Starship than just “land once scrap the thing”

Anonymous No. 16363773

Two more weeks to IFT-5 everyone!!

Anonymous No. 16363776

>>16363527
It's made of water. Water is like rock there.

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Anonymous No. 16363778

>>16363141
>This is your last fucking warning Heywood
>I'm tired of your shit

Anonymous No. 16363788

>>16363158
I'd be more worried about the lit cigarette floating in zero gravity

Anonymous No. 16363794

>>16363376
Simply kill the planetary protection people and the shitfit comes to a rapid close.

Anonymous No. 16363796

>>16363794
Simply ignore them and launch anyways

Anonymous No. 16363797

>>16363380
>it's literally böing originally
Art imitates life

Anonymous No. 16363801

>>16363756
I think using FH to launch a modified Dragon/ISS deorbit vehicle would give you enough dV to ignore the heat shield problem entirely. Just decelerate

Anonymous No. 16363808

>>16363801
You would need a service module for extended travel though. Unless you are committed to going to gateway. Dragon can only do 10 day flights on its own and later Artemis missions are long duration (30 days or more)

Anonymous No. 16363821

>>16363794
This
>WE NEED TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE RADIOACTIVE RED DUST SHITHOLE ROCK AIEEEE DON'T LET THEM TURN IT INTO A VERDANT GREEN PARADISE NOOO HELP

these 'people' can at best be described as mentally ill

Anonymous No. 16363829

>>16363801
FH is sadly just a bit underpowered for single launch crewed lunar capsules unless you do some frankenstein gigantic hydrolox S2 which probably won't fit on the 3.66m core.

The chinese made it just a bit bigger and it works on paper, but at this point FH isn't worth it for single launch lunar crew.

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Anonymous No. 16363834

https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1832060429289328854

>That's, uh, quite the take from the Chinese-born crypto entrepreneur who is financing and commanding the Fram2 private astronaut mission.

>Spaceflight?

Anonymous No. 16363835

>>16363808
They're already planning on building Gateway regardless and I don't see why they couldn't attach the Orion service module to Dragon. If we really want to cheap out and get to the Moon ASAP, it seems like the easiest option.

Anonymous No. 16363840

>>16363833
TIME TO DIE MOTHERFUCKER

Anonymous No. 16363842

>>16363834
>post has been deleted
Changbros?

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Anonymous No. 16363843

Second to left is Ceres 2, Galactic Energy's upcoming solid launcher which they are developping alongside the Pallas launcher.

well "developing", it looks almost identical to Jielong 3 and Kinetica 1, so it's probably just another launcher made with stages bought from CASC's AASPT

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Anonymous No. 16363844

>>16363834
based

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Anonymous No. 16363849

https://weibo.com/5616492130/OvAKNmc75

Despite their repeated failures, i-Space (the chinese one, not the japanese one) managed to raise the equivalent of $100M for the launch of their F9 copy in late 2025

Anonymous No. 16363852

Gateway is necessary why?

Anonymous No. 16363854

>>16363852
To maintain funding from congress

Anonymous No. 16363856

>>16363849
I don't know why they went with the spacex rip off for their english name.
Interstellar glory is a way better name than i-space.

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Anonymous No. 16363860

Since this corrupt huenigger judge is stealing Starlink assets, how hard would it be for Starship to capture a Brazilian communication satellite like the repoman, similar to how they wanted shittle to do to Soviet satellites? Imagine the seethe. And what could they do about it? They’re lucky that Elon doesn’t aim Starship at downtown São Paulo.

Anonymous No. 16363862

>>16363860
this was likely orchestrated from the US and not just some idea the judge came up with himself
the fact that the admin hasn't condemned it says a lot

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Anonymous No. 16363863

>>16362938

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Anonymous No. 16363866

>>16363852
If you are against space exploration for the sake of exploring, you are non-white. Simple as.

Anonymous No. 16363871

>>16363862
Yeah the Whore of Kamelot is definitely in on it. This shit ends in 5 seconds with Trump, either threatening sanctions or tariffs or by seizing Brazilian owned assets in the US. Anyone who supports space and free speech needs to support Orange man.

Anonymous No. 16363873

>>16363860
>Brazilian communication satellite
Do they have any?

Anonymous No. 16363874

>>16363844
Hot take? Or simply a noticer?
Nothing wrong with noticing things...

Anonymous No. 16363875

>>16363835
Nevermind, this idea wouldn't work without SLS. Dragon is heavier than Orion apparently, so no launching on a FH to the moon. Could still go on SLS though, but that would put us right back around to 'one more test launch.' Fucking incompotent retards in Congress, we don't really have a choice until SpaceX or BO fix the launcher problem.

Anonymous No. 16363876

>>16363871
I'm thinking more deep state/bureucrats and this brazil starlink thing is just the last in a long list of lawfare and similar bullshit, this time using brazil and this judge as a proxy (of course the judge probably wants to censor anyway, but seizing assets of a unrelated company goes a bit far)

Anonymous No. 16363879

>>16362959
Every part of the Blue Origin approach is designed for utter failure: part count/complexity, number of parts/systems with zero real life usage, absolutely nigtarded get-everything-perfectly-right-so-it-can't-possibly-fail-in-production development philosophy.

When you see Benos huffing his own farts and jerking himself off to how intricate their designs are, or talking with confidence about how well the untested TPS system works, it is immediately obvious that any successes of the New Glenn program will be not merely accidental, but in spite of BO's earnest attempts to fail.

Anonymous No. 16363882

>>16363873
https://space.skyrocket.de/directories/sat_c_brazil.htm
Here's a list of all of Brazil's current and former space assets. You'll need to do some cross-referencing to see which of these are still active.

Anonymous No. 16363883

>>16363002
that explains why it's so fucking gay

Anonymous No. 16363886

>>16363829
Dare I say it, modules? A few heavy launches with docking in GEO or something?

Anonymous No. 16363888

>>16363879
I think you are wrong and I expect new glenn to be flying more than every rocket except for falcon, electron, and maybe one of the long marches by next year. That includes starship.

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Anonymous No. 16363889

https://x.com/SpaceEquities/status/1832023159920304279
>Huge news and details about Rocket Lab! From the exact internal Neutron target launch month to new subsystems and acquisitions updates, CAPSTONE updates, unseen renders and photos on every program, and much more! We did discover some more sensitive stuff, which is why some posts will be redacted or certain information will be withheld.

>When discussing Neutron, he said the internal target launch date is June 2025. In a question during Q&A, he said that the engine firing duration right now is a couple of seconds, which is still far from full duration.

Anonymous No. 16363892

>>16363076
This is the same metastrategy deployed by someone who has never been in a fight when thinking through how they're going to beat the other guy's ass: latch on to the first idea they're not smart enough to realize is wrong, have no means to analyze its suitability, ignore the obvious flaws and believe confidently because they see no possibility of failure.

Anonymous No. 16363897

>>16363889
Beck will be forever chasing that September 2021 high, but it will never get there

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Anonymous No. 16363898

https://x.com/sling_shot_aero/status/1832071044221600129
>Slingshot Aerospace has detected what appears to be a breakup of the ATLAS 5 CENTAUR Rocket Body in a highly elliptical orbit (HEO). This rocket delivered GOES 17 into orbit on March 1st, 2018.

Anonymous No. 16363901

>>16363898
That looks like a really good capture. Do they have some better than average equipment or were there just ideal conditions like sunlight to record it like that?

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Anonymous No. 16363902

https://x.com/SpaceEquities/status/1832023192120033376
>>regarding CAPSTONE. “The day we got this contract it was just one of those formative moments for the company, like omg, we’re going to the moon, and then like five minutes later it's like holy shit how are we going to the moon, we don’t have a rocket that can do that, we just lied on the proposal, and so we’ve got to figure it out. We didn’t lie but it was a serious challenge.”

Anonymous No. 16363905

>>16363301
How do you keep your solar panels from melting? If you have a giant temperature gradient there are simpler and more efficient ways to make power. After you build some gay ass cooling system for your solar panels you're most of the way to building a thermal power plant anyway.

Anonymous No. 16363906

>>16363307
don't let the balls touch

Anonymous No. 16363908

>>16363901
Something in a near geostationary transfer orbit would be in direct sunlight most of the time, so it'd just be a matter of knowing where the object is supposed to be and having a big enough telescope to resolve it. It doesn't look like this was a super long exposure but they must have some pretty good tracking gear to stay locked on as cleanly as they did.

https://www.slingshot.space/about
>We're building advanced space domain awareness, space traffic coordination, and space security solutions to protect and preserve space for current and future generations.

But tracking things in space seems to be their business model so I guess that's not really surprising

Anonymous No. 16363909

>>16363361
"KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL MORE PASSENGERS! KILL MORE WHISTLEBLOWERS! KALI MA! KALI MA! KALI MA SHAKTI DE!"

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Anonymous No. 16363910

Official Avio statement.

Anonymous No. 16363911

>>16363377
yeah

Anonymous No. 16363912

>>16363910
This is adorably hilarious in that autistic childish way.

Anonymous No. 16363914

>>16363427
I wish you were running for president

Anonymous No. 16363916

>>16363910
yuropoors being delusional again

Anonymous No. 16363917

>>16363910
kek
you could say they're not entirely wrong historically speaking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Marco_programme

Anonymous No. 16363918

>>16363898
What caused it to 'splode?

Anonymous No. 16363919

>>16363905
>How do you keep your solar panels from melting
Solar panels make shade and there's no air. Just put them on stilts and put radiators underneath
>After you build some gay ass cooling system for your solar panels you're most of the way to building a thermal power plant anyway.
Oh goody more energy

Anonymous No. 16363925

>>16363523
>dyson spheres
out of small pieces
>ringworlds
by the time humans are ready to do something like that the state of science and technology will have advanced incredibly. Us trying to imagine how to build it is like a caveman trying to imagine how to use flintknapping to chip a skyscraper out of a mountain, or like an African American trying to imagine how to make a smoke detector stop beeping.

Anonymous No. 16363927

>>16363917
>Italian
>launched on an American rocket from an American facility
Why did you post this? Can you not read?

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Anonymous No. 16363932

>>16363917
Payloads aren't "access to space." I thought that they were referencing the Diamant series for a second, which were the first launch vehicles not operated by the United States or USSR, but those were all French.

Anonymous No. 16363936

>>16363875
>Dragon is heavier than Orion apparently

Look at this retard and laugh.

Anonymous No. 16363938

>>16363918
If it were some old Soviet space trash I'd say it was probably a battery explosion, but this one is actually hard to speculate on. ULA's got a pretty good record of passivating their leftover hardware.

Anonymous No. 16363939

>>16363698
wrong and gay
numbers of combinations, arrangements, etc. are truly massive
you cannot exhaust them
the number of permutations of 60 distinct objects is more than the number of protons in the universe (but less than the number of stolen bikes in the average garage in Detroit)

Anonymous No. 16363940

>>16363925
bruh that shit on the ceiling :skull:
how yall on tell me to climb up that shii fr

Anonymous No. 16363942

>>16363715
>almost any and every combination of chemicals exists, or has at least existed at some point
extremely wrong and gay

Anonymous No. 16363943

>>16363936
I'm just going off of Wikipedia. It says Orion configured for SLS weighs less than Crew Dragon, as far as I can tell.

Anonymous No. 16363944

>>16363734
gigabased

Anonymous No. 16363947

>>16363927
I am quite confident in my abilities, Anon, but be my guest and disprove what's written in the first paragraph of that article? NASA says as much in its report.
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19720007316/downloads/19720007316.pdf
>The vehicle arrived at Wallops Island on 3 November 1964 and was successfully launched 15 December 1964. This launch was an all-Italian endeavor and gave Italy the distinction of becoming the third nation to place a satellite in orbit following Russia and the United States. For the record, Great Britain and France had satellites in orbit, but they had been placed there by United States launch teams.

Anonymous No. 16363948

>>16363943
You have to look at the launch mass and consider Orion also comes with ESM and a heavy ass launch escape system. Orion is fat as fuck dude
>>16363942
>>16363939
You don’t get it

Anonymous No. 16363952

>>16363948
Well yes, but my suggestion was attaching the ESM to Dragon because the Orion capsule explodes on rentry and Dragon doesn't. If you completely changed the mission structure you could use Dragon obviously.

Anonymous No. 16363955

>>16363947
Anon, that seems like cheating. They used an American rocket and launched it from an American facility...

Anonymous No. 16363959

>>16363955
I'll let NASA decide on that, the report also extensively talks about the former oil rig platform and how it was managed by their space agency. Avio was bragging in that post, and this is what they were referring to most certainly. It's also a little jab at the french.

Anonymous No. 16363961

>>16363959
>Italian lies intended to troll the French
It checks out

Anonymous No. 16363962

Italy comes in second after SpaceX, USA, China, Russia, France, incredible India, Japan

Anonymous No. 16363963

>>16363910
>second only to russia and the us
So third?

Anonymous No. 16363965

>>16363952
Oh interesting I see what you’re talking about now. Oddly enough it turns out the actual mass of Dragon 2 is kind of up for debate and SX has never published the actual number anywhere. Some assumptions come from a NASA press release during DM-2 (though the figure given was a lowball estimate), some have tried calculating it based on acceleration data, but either way it’s listed as “12.5 T” and Orion is listed as “10.4 T”

Anonymous No. 16363966

>>16363754
as expected from an OG Rocket Boy

Anonymous No. 16363972

>>16363943
Your hint is that you are not comparing Orion's launch mass with Dragon's launch mass, these numbers are on the same wiki you are reading.

Anonymous No. 16363973

Starliner undocking in T-6 hours

Anonymous No. 16363974

Polaris Yawn, never gonna happen

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Anonymous No. 16363977

>>16363973
6 HOURS UNTIL STARLINER DIES!

Anonymous No. 16363978

>>16363974
If it’s this bad, imagine how fucking snubbed DearMoon was kek

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Anonymous No. 16363981

>>16363889
>>16363902

Anonymous No. 16363986

>>16363898
Follow-up tweet:
>NORAD ID: 43227
>Time of Fragmentation Event: ~5:21 UTC on Sep. 6th, 2024
>Time of First Observation: 5:32 UTC on September 6th, 2024
>Orbital Info: 34,953 km apogee; 7,634 km perigee; 9.4° inclination
>We will continue to monitor and provide additional updates on this event.

Not coming down anytime soon, but it's higher than the most used orbits

Anonymous No. 16363988

>>16363889
> internal target launch date is June 2025
how realistic is this?

>Additionally, the presenter commented: “Who knows a vertically integrated end-to-end space company that doesn’t play well with others? Everybody knows SpaceX does not play well with others, right? So we do [play with others well] and we think it's good business, we're a really strong ecosystem partner. [...]”

Anonymous No. 16363989

>>16363981
so dumb, who is even asking for this

Anonymous No. 16363990

>>16363974
SpaceX is too risk averse to ever go to mars, that should be abundantly clear by now

Anonymous No. 16363991

>>16363962
and (lol) New Zealand!

Anonymous No. 16363992

>>16363988
not even going to make a 50/50 joke—it’s straight up not happening

Anonymous No. 16363993

>>16363991
New zealand is working on making spaceflight illegal

Anonymous No. 16363994

>>16363991
Having a launcher doesn’t put you ahead. Italy is far superior. It has supplied critical components for manned space travel such as the ISSpresso machine.

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Anonymous No. 16363996

>>16363988
https://x.com/SpaceEquities/status/1832029387534827709

Anonymous No. 16363997

>>16363996
This is cope. “Refurbing” after 10 seconds of fire time lmfao

Anonymous No. 16363998

>>16363993
Simply abolish the kiwi government and replace it with a space-friendly one, then.

Anonymous No. 16363999

>>16363989
the air force I guess
could have perhaps tested a miniature version of a heatshield in a more realistic enviroment for anything like Artemis

Anonymous No. 16364000

>>16363991
>Ātea-1, First Launch: 2009-11-30
Kiwis will soon take over the spaceflight industry

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Anonymous No. 16364003

>>16363897
they seem to have a lot of random projects, seem to want to become some kind of general contractor for spacecraft parts (pic related)
so I think the company will probably stay alive and be somewhat successful
being a good investment or becoming some hundred billion dollar company is less likely I think

https://x.com/SpaceEquities/status/1832023179633590388

Anonymous No. 16364006

>>16363925
lmao

Anonymous No. 16364009

>>16363999
The heatshield was tested from LEO on the Delta IV Heavy unmanned Orion flight test. The chunking appears to be specific to lunar/interplanetary return.

Anonymous No. 16364010

>>16364003
Neutron is their dumbest product.
Everything else is cool. They should focus on the other stuff!
Not sure what to do about Electron. It’s obviously cool to have orbital capabilities, but it doesn’t have a future. Chasing electron reuse is stupid investorbait. Falcon 1 has been dead for like, what, 17 years now? And it still mogs electron.

Anonymous No. 16364011

>>16364009
how the fuck does that make sense? all it did was hang out in space longer.

Anonymous No. 16364014

>>16364011
Are you retarded?

Anonymous No. 16364015

>>16364011
Space turbulence.

Anonymous No. 16364016

>>16364011
It only works during the day. Going to the moon exposes it to too much night

Anonymous No. 16364017

>>16364011
lrn2space

Anonymous No. 16364027

>>16364011
It's a complete mystery. That's why we're having this conversation in the first place. If there was some obvious reason why LEO and Lunar return would be substantially different for a heat shield then surely NASA of all organizations would handled this differently.
Right?

Anonymous No. 16364028

>>16364010
Investors are easy to bait, and RL are just established enough to score some easy wins, so why not fuck around and find out? It has appeal to normies, because its NOT evil Musk, and its NOT evil Bezos, its NOT China or Russia or other government/military affiliate pork project job programs.
Its a second rate project for sure, but I'm backing it (non-financially) in spirit because we need more players. And someone needs to do the carbon fiber rocket, just to prove it out either as a white elephant or a shining star. Even SpaceX was lured by its advantages at one point. Never know until you try and follow through, even tho it looks grim and unfeasible. That carbon fiber tech will be VERY useful for other space-based, non-launch vehicle uses, like structures, farings, etc

Anonymous No. 16364031

>>16364011
D4H launched Orion and it was a complete waste of mission. Complete boiler plate test that tested nothing relevant to an actual mission hahaha

Anonymous No. 16364035

>>16364011
7 vs 11 km/s, and kinetic energy is velocity squared

Anonymous No. 16364037

>>16363580
Are they doing another aids capsule?

Anonymous No. 16364039

>>16364035
What was the point of the test if it was going so much faster in the actual mission? Did anyone actually think about this for more than 10 seconds?

Anonymous No. 16364041

>>16364039
why did they launch ares i-x?
These things were on the table for 10, 15 years with nothing to show for it and NASA needed something to do. Actual answer btw.

Anonymous No. 16364043

>>16364039
They needed to launch something to show that the program had actually moved forward.
Such is life in government pork.

Anonymous No. 16364068

>>16363866
If you don't understand the significance of abandoning bad ideas for the sake of accomplishing something worthwhile, you are a nigger.

Anonymous No. 16364069

9 bongs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ0T-cZWh78

Anonymous No. 16364070

>>16363875
>incompotent
it's ogre

Anonymous No. 16364077

>>16363834
>>16363844
Tone/ideology policing like this is pathetic, subtle lefty racism too "chinese born" has no bearing on what he said

Anonymous No. 16364081

>>16363743
based

Anonymous No. 16364083

>>16364081
Make Homer NASA admin; good or bad idea?

Anonymous No. 16364084

https://x.com/sen/status/1831693269790503027

Anonymous No. 16364085

>>16364084
Based Ceres poster

Anonymous No. 16364087

>>16364084

>>16362529

Anonymous No. 16364091

>>16364084
>>16364085
>>16364087
>>16362529

Anonymous No. 16364092

>>16364091
>>16364091
>>16364091

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Anonymous No. 16364093

>>16364084
>brags about 4K footage
>posts 720p sample clip on X

Anonymous No. 16364095

>>16364093
isn’t that more of an Xitter problem though? Elon isn’t going to address the video problems for another decade at least, cheap cunt

Anonymous No. 16364097

>>16363713
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppU2GSrhHk8

Anonymous No. 16364098

>>16364095
Xitter supports 1080p at least, they posted in 720p BY CHOICE.

Anonymous No. 16364100

>>16363918
I'm becoming convinced someone's shooting at these things.

Anonymous No. 16364101

>>16364098
Oh then yeah, what the fuck

Anonymous No. 16364103

https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1832071797056917754
> At the Commercial Developments in LEO meeting this morning, FAA's Kelvin Coleman says the agency expects to publish next year an orbital debris rule for disposal of upper stages; reviewing comments now on an earlier draft.
The envirocels have landed. I repeat, the envirocels have landed.

Anonymous No. 16364105

>>16364103
then again - >>16363898

Anonymous No. 16364116

>>16364103
Nah America has been moving toward this general sentiment over the last couple of years. Part of signing the Artemis accords is promising to clean up your shit

Anonymous No. 16364118

>>16364116
and yet two of the 3 HLS proposals had drop tanks and a giant discarded descent stage. How sustainable the yankees are…

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Anonymous No. 16364122

>>16364118
You will never guess which two shitlanders didn't get selected

Anonymous No. 16364124

>>16364122
>>16364118
Reminder that Alpaca's design left it too heavy to fly and they STILL submitted it.

Anonymous No. 16364126

>>16364124
>N E G A T I V E
>M A S S

Anonymous No. 16364128

>>16364124
it just works

Anonymous No. 16364136

>>16364124
>five minutes later it's like holy shit how are we going to the moon, we don’t have a lander that can do that, we just lied on the proposal

Anonymous No. 16364141

>>16364136
Is this an actual quote??

Anonymous No. 16364145

>>16364141
>>16363902

Anonymous No. 16364147

>>16364145
Oh durr

Anonymous No. 16364148

>>16364069
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_79y0yZs0dc

undocking in 3

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Anonymous No. 16364151

>>16363910
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1832080130057138214

Anonymous No. 16364152

>>16364151
North Korea, Iran

Anonymous No. 16364154

>>16364152
Isr*el

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Anonymous No. 16364157

>>16362078
KAMBALA JUST ABOLISHED SPACE X

Anonymous No. 16364159

>>16364011
Lunar return velocity is significantly higher than LEO which results in much higher temperatures, this is why Orion is the only current crew rated vehicle that can do manned missions to the Moon

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Anonymous No. 16364160

>>16364151
>My favorite Avio foot-in-mouth moment remains when its CEO, Giulio Ranzo, compared the Falcon 9 rocket to a Tata. Then, two of the next five Vega rockets blew up.
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1832082108816490868

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Anonymous No. 16364161

https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1832099558530179437

Anonymous No. 16364162

>>16363769
Your engines fail and then what? Crew burns up in the Earth’s atmosphere. HLS Moonship of death.
The US needs a commercial lunar vehicle that can ride on FH or New Glenn

Anonymous No. 16364164

>>16364160
I forgot about this lmao

Anonymous No. 16364169

>>16364152
>>16364154
They're in the running but I wouldn't put them "ahead" of Italy. Israel only has the Shavit and that's an electron-sized rocket that's launched 12 times in 36 years. Most of Iran's rockets are also small launch and they use twice hand-me-down tech that the Norks got from the Soviets back in the 1950s; Iranian LREs are just one generation away from using nitric acid as an oxidizer. Nothing North Korea has can match the Vega for payload, they hardly ever launch anything, and when they do it usually explodes.

But, yeah, those are the only ones I'd really put Italy clearly ahead of. Comparing Vega to South Korea's lineup is harder because while Nuri has better performance Vega has actually flown more than two successful missions.

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Anonymous No. 16364179

ACK
https://x.com/blueorigin/status/1832128490625180038

Anonymous No. 16364182

>>16364179
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAA

Anonymous No. 16364183

>>16364179
get fukt bezos

Anonymous No. 16364185

>>16364179
kek

Anonymous No. 16364186

OH NOOOOOO https://blogs.nasa.gov/escapade/2024/09/06/nasa-stands-down-from-october-launch-for-escapade-to-mars/

Anonymous No. 16364187

Did anyone actually believe that NG was going to fly this soon?

Anonymous No. 16364188

>>16364179
somebody isn’t ready!

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16364189

https://x.com/blueorigin/status/1832128490625180038

https://www.blueorigin.com/blue-ring

Anonymous No. 16364190

>The decision was made to avoid significant cost, schedule, and technical challenges associated with potentially removing fuel from the spacecraft in the event of a launch delay

Anonymous No. 16364192

>>16364190
lmfao

Anonymous No. 16364193

>>16364187
I'm confidant that they could have scraped together enough hardware to get something on the pad for the October launch window. That said there's a big difference between launching and flying correctly.

Anonymous No. 16364194

>>16364190
lol

Anonymous No. 16364195

>>16364189
Someone already posted this. Please remember to check the thread for if it was posted previously as to not flood with repeats

Anonymous No. 16364196

>>16364192
>>16364194
so basically NASA doesn't trust that they can launch on time.

Anonymous No. 16364198

>>16364190
Great excuse, blame the PAYLOAD and the CUSTOMER for a safety risk

Anonymous No. 16364200

>>16364179
I am completely flabbergasted by this development

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Anonymous No. 16364201

>>16364186

Anonymous No. 16364203

Is New Glenn actually flying this year? Considering BO speeds I have hard time believing that they will somehow start doing SpaceX speed of development especially keeping in mind that it's their first orbital rocket.

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Anonymous No. 16364204

>>16364201

Anonymous No. 16364205

>>16364198
Rocket Lab built it but I believe it’s a NASA owned payload so basically they are taking the bullet here. They know it’s too risky but it’s easier and more cordial to say it’s a “them” problem, versus “yeah we just don’t fucking trust Blue Origin at this point”

Anonymous No. 16364207

>announce the new moved-up month of the 2nd NG flight
>don't announce the new launch date of the first launch
wat

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Anonymous No. 16364208

>>16364179
https://www.blueorigin.com/blue-ring

kind of a gay name for a spacetug

Anonymous No. 16364209

>>16364179
I thought they said their second flight was Q1 2025. Now they’re saying it was December and it’s supposedly moving up into November?
…[X] to doubt

Anonymous No. 16364211

Was BO introduced to Elon time?

Anonymous No. 16364212

>>16364203
they don't have any deadline if they launch their own payload into LEO now so I wouldn't be surprised if the launch slips to 2025 just to make super sure everything is ok (and it might still fail lol)

Anonymous No. 16364214

>>16364208
sounds like an STD that would float around the gay community

Anonymous No. 16364215

>>16364207
November

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Anonymous No. 16364217

>>16364214
it's a snail

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Anonymous No. 16364220

>>16364208
get end-to-end edging service "in-space" with the Blue Ring

Anonymous No. 16364223

>>16364220
It does sound like a sex thing

Anonymous No. 16364225

>>16364209
>>16364212
They are lying, the thing wont launch until summer 2025 now, they know this for a long time but wanted to hype it up anyway
Remember Bezos power over congress and thus NASA
All fake, staged, and gay
Also they always release bad news on Friday nights, because real people are busy

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Anonymous No. 16364228

https://x.com/peterrhague/status/1832050248723894701

Anonymous No. 16364232

>>16364228
The funny thing is, the opposite is true. Boeing cheated in HLS proposals and got illegal insider information to see what everyone else, chiefly SpaceX, was bidding at.
Total EDSfag death.

Anonymous No. 16364234

considering that the majority of space startups are started by ex spacex employees, spacex does sort of act as an experience faucet for the industry as a whole.

Anonymous No. 16364241

>>16364186
>>16364190
NASA doesn't think New Glenn will be ready in time for the October launch window and ESCAPADE can't sit around fueled while waiting for the next.

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>>16364179

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Anonymous No. 16364253

>With NASA’s plan faltering, China knows it can be first with Mars sample return
>"China is likely to become the first country to return samples from Mars."
https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/09/with-nasas-plan-faltering-china-knows-it-can-be-first-with-mars-sample-return/

Anonymous No. 16364256

>>16364253
Just remember: if they beat us, it’s Congress’ fault

Anonymous No. 16364260

>>16363580
industry in space is taking off...

Anonymous No. 16364263

>>16364179
Told you it wouldn't launch this year. It won't succeed on its first launch either.

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Anonymous No. 16364267

casual reminder

Anonymous No. 16364270

Have there been any more new on Dragonfly?

Anonymous No. 16364273

calling it now some freak accident happens at undock and saarliner blows up the entire ISS
>>16364270
OIG is investigating them for being a shit, CANCEL DRAGONFLY ASAP IT IS AS BAD AS MSR

Anonymous No. 16364274

>>16364179
>spring
Hohmann transfer no longer possible, if that was ever the plan

Anonymous No. 16364275

>>16364273
fuck you for comparing dragonfly to that dumpster fire

Anonymous No. 16364277

lol it’s not even launching Blue Ring, it’s just launching “blue ring tech”
Somebody wake up bezos and tell him he actually needs to try if he wants to compete

Anonymous No. 16364278

PRELIMINARY DESIGN OF THE
DRAGONFLY NAVIGATION FILTER

arxiv.org/pdf/2307.13513v2

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Anonymous No. 16364279

>>16364179
unfortunate

Anonymous No. 16364280

>>16364275
NOT VIISITING THE LAKES THERE IS LITERALLY NO POINT IN GOING TO TITAN OTHERWISE AWFUL MISSIONS WASTE OF TAXPAYER MONEY NEEDS TO BE CANCELLED ASAP AND HAVE MONEY PUT TO OTHER MISSIONS THAT ARENT AWFUl

Anonymous No. 16364281

>>16364267
thanks, this will be useful for Titan

Anonymous No. 16364284

>>16364280
so you’d rather not see any surface images of Titan at all? You’re a faggot

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Anonymous No. 16364288

soon

Anonymous No. 16364292

>>16364284
we already have one. send a good fucking mission to the lakes or dont send one AT ALL

Anonymous No. 16364296

>>16364292
>we already have one
Huygens? If you’re referring to huygens then you’re truly a faggot

Anonymous No. 16364302

>>16364296
you will send a good mission to the lakes or you will enjoy what you have stop encouraging dogshit missions. you wouldve been the same person to call me a faggot for hating on MSR before it became entirely obvious that it was a dogshit mission because 'you really think moon samples are good enough?'

Anonymous No. 16364305

Do Titan's dunes glow in the dark?

https://www.hou.usra.edu/meetings/dunes2017/pdf/3018.pdf

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Anonymous No. 16364307

https://x.com/RocketLab/status/1832143982752887203

Anonymous No. 16364308

>>16364302
nta it would be a good mission if it didn't cost so much.

Anonymous No. 16364311

>>16364307
Am I over-analyzing this or is this kind of a diss toward BO?

Anonymous No. 16364313

>>16364308
no it would not because its not going to the lakes either way.

Anonymous No. 16364315

>>16364179
New Glenn cant fly this year lmao, it's literally in pieces

Anonymous No. 16364316

>>16364313
You are so dumb

Anonymous No. 16364318

>>16364313
I was talking about msr

Anonymous No. 16364321

OUR FAVORITE MAINE ROCKET STARTUP IS TESTING ENGINES TODAY IN 4 BONGS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goJ0QHEbefI

Anonymous No. 16364323

>>16364307
Starliner is set to become litterbox liner. Blown Orifice blows the launch date reality check. I'm glad Polaris Dawn got pushed off by weather, today is not a good day for space.

Anonymous No. 16364325

>>16364311
It's RocketLab reminding everyone that this delay isn't their fault, which looks like a diss.

Anonymous No. 16364327

>>16364323
Q4 is always rough. Scrubtober Sky

Anonymous No. 16364330

how did we pick up this new antagonistic shitspammer?

Anonymous No. 16364332

>>16364325
but a year ago the Dragonfly team was reminding everyone that the delay is not their fault and look now they're under an investigation

Anonymous No. 16364333

>>16364330
Wut

Anonymous No. 16364337

>>16364321
who?

Anonymous No. 16364338

>>16364330
what are you even talking about

Anonymous No. 16364339

>a little under two hours to saarliner stuff

Do i bother staying up (UTC +2)
I'm expecting them to test shit for hours before undocking

Anonymous No. 16364340

I am already mourning the ISS. I will never forgive Boeing for the disaster they are about to cause.

Anonymous No. 16364341

>>16364337
>>16364333
faggot that thinks dragonfly bad

Anonymous No. 16364344

is Starliner reentering soon?

Anonymous No. 16364346

>>16364341
He pipes up every time Dragonfly is brought up. I agree the cost is absurd but that’s typical of every major NASA mission. But his autism against it not visiting the lakes is unhinged

Anonymous No. 16364348

>>16364339
I don't see the point in staying up for this, nothing will probably happen either at all or until later. We can find out tomorrow morning all at once how badly boing have fucked this up.

Anonymous No. 16364350

>>16364339
Do you need to be awake and alert early tomorrow?

Anonymous No. 16364354

>>16364279
THIS is what Bezos' mom looked like??

Anonymous No. 16364355

>>16364311
RL is public so they need to make it very clear that it isn't their fuck up

Anonymous No. 16364356

>>16364350
kinda yeah.
Guess I'll check if it crashed while out on the lake

Anonymous No. 16364357

>>16364179
SpaceXbros we can't stop winning, at this point it's even boring LOL

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Anonymous No. 16364366

>muh Titan lakes not dunes reeeeeee
Hard to care when the moon is cryonic and obviously lifeless

Anonymous No. 16364367

>>16364356
Probably won't crash, worst (realistic) case would be that it can't deorbit (imagine Starliner becoming literal space trash). Worst worst case is that it somehow blows up and damage the ISS.

Anonymous No. 16364371

>>16364344
4 hours after it undocks. 6 pm undock and 10 pm landing for the only timezone that matters.

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Anonymous No. 16364373

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1832142033840173501

Anonymous No. 16364374

time was off, 43 minutes to testing the blushift engine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goJ0QHEbefI

Anonymous No. 16364375

Are yall going to watch the NSF livestream for undocking?

Anonymous No. 16364379

>>16363715
The number of possible chemicals is literally infinite

Anonymous No. 16364380

>>16364366
the only reason you should ever care about titan at all is the methane lakes that can be used in future missions to easily extend humanity to the outer solar system when it serves as a refueling port.
>muh life!!! muh bacteria and shitty microbes!!!
yeah im sure discovering dog shit somewhere else in the system like tha will be soooo exciting. single celled life interests are for faggot biologists, not chad colonists.

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Anonymous No. 16364381

visibility path

Anonymous No. 16364382

>>16364307
>>16364311
>>16364325
What they are saying is, the next next Mars window this mission with NOT be flying on a goddamn New Glenn, but instead their own Neutron rocket. Blue fucked up, and it was a stupid first mission for NG anyway, these fags only have New Shepard so far, for Christ's sake

Anonymous No. 16364383

>>16364375
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG3eNnzhkpw

probably not but here it is, 15min

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_79y0yZs0dc

Anonymous No. 16364384

>>16364379
Guess how big the universe is

Anonymous No. 16364385

>>16364373
Mars colonization is a terribly unrealistic proposal and it seems obvious to me that Elon treats it as little more than the subject for amusing speculation. The one thing he's super serious about is building the kind of rockets that are necessary to put ludicrous amounts of rocks of the clever variety into LEO.

Anonymous No. 16364386

>>16364382
If they plan on sending those little probes to Mars any time last October (they literally said Spring 2025) it’s going to have to be a on a fuckhuge rocket considering the Mars launch window. Neutron ain’t gonna cut it, bud… lol

Anonymous No. 16364387

>>16364383
Thanks anon

Anonymous No. 16364389

>>16364354
no dummy, that's the resurrected corpse of american astronaut john glenn.
bezo's mom is a barge

Anonymous No. 16364390

>>16364385
Do you get an erection every time you bring up brilliant pebbles? Is that why you're like this?

Anonymous No. 16364391

>>16364386
I said next Mars window, faggot. It wont be in spring 2025, but at the non-retarded time to launch a fucking Mars probe.
Besides, Rocket Lab has plenty of kick stage experience, so Neutron will be just fine, its a small pair of sats, and RL will probably do it for the same price

Anonymous No. 16364392

>>16364391
Ah fuck you’re right my bad I feel shameful

Anonymous No. 16364393

>>16364382
nice headcanon you fucking retard

Anonymous No. 16364396

>>16364103
This is a good thing m8. Don't want shit endlessly crapping up orbit. I expect they will bring the hammer down on disposal by re entry burn too and you will have to bring them back. It's fine when you only have a handful of satellites doing it but when you are talking about gorillions of pounds of megaconstellations turning into high atmospheric heavy metal dust on a constant basis, it's not gonna be allowed.

Anonymous No. 16364398

>>16364392
>>16364393
Fucking idiots who don't realize that what Blue Origin/NASA said, and what Rocket Lab said were two different things.
Rocket Lab said they stand by their payload, but they did NOT say is that its remaining on a fucking New Glenn, they deal is considered broken

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Anonymous No. 16364399

>>16364390
I have a crippling condition which compels me to say the quiet part out loud.

Anonymous No. 16364400

>>16364398
RL aren’t dictating when and how the probes launch, retard

Anonymous No. 16364402

>>16364384
A smaller infinity (seriously)

Anonymous No. 16364403

>I am a computer and I did not compile properly
what

Anonymous No. 16364404

>>16364399
You don't need to post like you have tourettes for your paraphilias. This is the sort of behavior you expect to see in people who spam reactions in a livestream chat. You can be better.

Anonymous No. 16364405

>>16364400
Spring 2025 has got to be the extreme end of this Mars window, with a stupidly size launcher.
You really think BO is ready? From where comes this confidence?
They haven't static fired yet, haven't stacked or integrated payload before, and never even launched an orbital class rocket before, its almost surely a fail.

Anonymous No. 16364406

>>16364404
I think you are trying to bully me into silence about your pebbly schemes.

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Anonymous No. 16364407

>>16364366
>>16364380
You should care about Titan because it's awesome. The only moon with a substantial atmosphere, the only other world to have liquid lakes. It's beautiful.

Anonymous No. 16364408

>>16364405
Lmfao you’re saying you have low confidence in New Glenn spring 2025 but high confidence for Neutron next mars launch window? I hope your stock loses all value, shill

Anonymous No. 16364410

>>16363427
the Civil Rights Act is good actually, it's the main weapon against the DEI stuff

Anonymous No. 16364411

>>16364406
I am trying to bully you into not posting like your retarded. I know this is difficult and that I have little chance for success, but I feel compelled to try anyway. Someone shouldn't have to endure as much self-inflicted cringe as you.

Anonymous No. 16364412

>>16364288

> No Kilo power reactor
> No ASG power unit
> Can't land anywhere near liquid

What a shite design.

Anonymous No. 16364414

>>16364407
Clearly huffing his those Titan braps by with muh atmosphere when all of the outer solar system planets exist.
>akshually farts dont smell like methane
Yes we know point dexter you ruin the joke every time.

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Anonymous No. 16364415

https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1832163172687749344
Escapade becomes a 2 year mission with a Venus flyby.

Anonymous No. 16364416

>>16364408
I own no RL stock, but Peter Beck's post on behalf of Rocket Lab clearly indicates they are open, willing, (and likely wanting) to bail on BO, and launch the goddamn thing themselves with Neutron, since they have a capable rocket coming soon and this is a real mission that they know the payload intimately, can tolerate loss, and the fact it just makes sense for them to own it.
After all the mishaps that are coming for New Glenn testing and flight anomalies, its going to be a while not Spring 2025, thats smelling like shit

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Anonymous No. 16364417

>retards your pebbles

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Anonymous No. 16364418

I hope it blows up on reentry

Anonymous No. 16364419

>>16364371
What should we expect

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Anonymous No. 16364420

https://x.com/RocketLab/status/1832164798127288730

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Anonymous No. 16364423

>>16364420

Anonymous No. 16364426

>>16364390
I'm pretty sure he's just trying to trigger muskrats such as myself. I mean the story he is selling to his fans is that the rockets are for Mars. But they happen to be very good for leo

Anonymous No. 16364427

>>16364420
So did Musk fool Beck into chasing the composite meme when SX was still trying to do giant composite tanks for BFR? Poor Beck took the bait!

Anonymous No. 16364428

>>16364407
This. The images Titan will bring back will be otherwordly. A world with ice for rock, methane for water, random organic chemicals scattered across the surface, and a sky with a funny color. Can't wait bros

Anonymous No. 16364430

ONE MINUTE >>16364374

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Anonymous No. 16364432

Triton looks weird to me. Not in a bad way.

Anonymous No. 16364433

>>16364427
we'll see who's laughing when it starts raining giant metal i-beams

Anonymous No. 16364434

According to Berger:
>However, when the company missed a key target of hot firing the rocket's upper stage by the end of August, NASA delayed fueling of the ESCAPADE mission.
Sounds like NASA wanted that as a hard deadline and pulled the plug because BO was too slow

Anonymous No. 16364435

>>16364430
>>16364430
wut nothing happened

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Anonymous No. 16364437

>>16364432
Triton is black

Anonymous No. 16364439

>>16364435
Made ya click!
watch this one next:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
hahahaha
BluShift is worse them being Rick Rolled

Anonymous No. 16364440

>>16364435
>It's looking like the test will happen closer to 6pm ET. We are adjusting the countdown based on updates from engineering.

Anonymous No. 16364441

>>16364427
No, Rocket Lab went with carbon fiber for electron because there are some significant weight savings and smaller rockets are more sensitive to that sort of factor. On top of that New Zealand has a lot of carbon fiber production experience to draw on from their ship building industry, so it was a lot easier for RL to use than it would have been for other companies. Now that they're really good at working with CF sticking with it is easier than changing to a completely different process and material. It's kinda like how Japan still uses hydrogen for its main engines instead of methane or RP1. They've got enough time and skill invested to make it work more easily than the other options.

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Anonymous No. 16364442

>>16364432
For me it's iapetus

Anonymous No. 16364443

>>16364432
We must go visit her again. How have we neglected our ice giants for so long??

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Anonymous No. 16364444

I completely forgot this little guy ever existed

Anonymous No. 16364445

>>16364444
>guy

Anonymous No. 16364446

>>16364209
No, they meant the Maiden launch will happen in november, but with the second launch's payload,, while the second launch was previously planned for December.

Considering the 2nd and 3rd S2 are gone, I doubt they'll be able to do a 2nd and 3rd launch anytime soon.

Anonymous No. 16364447

>>16364442
walnut moon

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Anonymous No. 16364448

>>16364442
Why the fuck does Saturn have three death stars?

>sixth planet from the sun
>unexplained hexagon (six sides) storm
Uhhhh....

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Anonymous No. 16364451

>>16364444

Anonymous No. 16364453

>>16364448
It has so many damn rocky satellites, our pattern-recognizing ape brains are bound to find similarities amongst them.
The polar hexagon is cool and interesting but Venus’ giant ass double-eye polar hurricane is way cooler

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>>16364451

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>>16364448
also schizos on x love that planet. BTW here's a good wallpaper

Anonymous No. 16364458

7 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_79y0yZs0dc

Anonymous No. 16364460

>>16364448
Saturn's obviously had at least one major energetic breakup among its attendant moons. Big chunks colliding with several of the remaining satellites doesn't seem like an unlikely event.

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Anonymous No. 16364462

twitter was a mistake dawg we are never getting to Mars

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1831927900255490289

Anonymous No. 16364463

>china's x-37b spaceplane returned from orbit
nobody even brought this up

Anonymous No. 16364465

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goJ0QHEbefI

Anonymous No. 16364466

>>16364462
Nah I think it's cool that Musk plays video games to blow off steam. One of the boys

Anonymous No. 16364467

we need to discuss what x-37b's true purpose is

Anonymous No. 16364468

so, bets on this being nauka 2.0?

Anonymous No. 16364469

>>16364466
its not the vidya its the fact that he's on twitter 24/7 nearly with multiple alts, its just like Trump lol, what is it about twitter man

Anonymous No. 16364470

>>16364467
scaring china and russia that’s about it

Anonymous No. 16364471

>>16364469
>multiple alts
source

Anonymous No. 16364473

>>16364458
This music triggered my epilepsy

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Anonymous No. 16364474

>>16364467
I wouldn't worry about it

Anonymous No. 16364475

>>16364469
Oh IDK, maybe the fact that he owns it and it’s one of his major companies?
>>16364471
Well one of his alts is literally in that screenshot—but people always accuse him of running more alts

Anonymous No. 16364476

>>16364469
>I can't imagine anyone who isn't consumed 24/7 by social media
>also Elon wasn't even on Twitter before he bought it
You have a weak spirit

Anonymous No. 16364477

IT BEGINS
https://youtu.be/_79y0yZs0dc

Anonymous No. 16364478

>nsf said starliner is undocking in 15 minutes
i thought it was 6 hours from now?

Anonymous No. 16364479

>>16364478
that's landing

Anonymous No. 16364480

>>16364478
Landing at White Sands is in 6 hours

Anonymous No. 16364481

cookies spotted

Anonymous No. 16364482

>>16364478
re entry is about 4 hours from now, undocking is 6pm EST

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Anonymous No. 16364483

>>16364471
>>16364462
AD is his main alt though I guess he replies to it to throw off that suspicion but whatever, also pretty sure he has a 4th alt too that I saw once but can't be certain

I do this too mind you, just not direct replying to my alts nor do I have that many alts because its just a lot to handle, twitter is a real timesucker lmao

Anonymous No. 16364484

>>16364469
>what is it about twitter man
imagine if he shitposted on /sfg/ instead... let the man be

Anonymous No. 16364485

She’s reading this with a loaded gun to her forehead damn

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Anonymous No. 16364486

priorities!

Anonymous No. 16364487

>>16364480
>Landing at white sands

Lol lmao even

Anonymous No. 16364489

>>16364486
what’s MOCPAC?

Anonymous No. 16364490

>720p stream
hmmmmmmm trying to hide evidence with pixels are we?

Anonymous No. 16364491

will it need to fire thrusters to undock

Anonymous No. 16364492

>>16364491
the docking port has springs that propel it away from the ISS

Anonymous No. 16364493

>we remember every setback, thank you
Neither of them wanted to fly on the shitliner kek

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Anonymous No. 16364494

>>16364484
what if he does? I mean he knows 4chan, so maybe, but maybe doesn't browse it much or browse /sci/

Anonymous No. 16364495

>close doors
>tighten
>depressurize
>test depressurized area
>open up depressurized area to vacuum of space
>detach
is there any fundamental reason this takes hours and hours?
Is it usually faster, but they want to be careful with shitliner?

Anonymous No. 16364496

>>16364489
rotacinummoc eluspac

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Anonymous No. 16364500

>>16364357
>mfw we did actually get tired of winning

Anonymous No. 16364501

>>16364494
Jeff Bezos lurks here, he’s the /n/ collagefag

Anonymous No. 16364502

>>16364495
you see it's not that easy in rocketry so to speak

Anonymous No. 16364503

>>16364483
whats the point of alts? assuming you don't have a big main account and want to start shouting N or something with the alts

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Anonymous No. 16364504

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Anonymous No. 16364506

low energy

Anonymous No. 16364507

Collagebro if you're still around we miss you

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Anonymous No. 16364509

>>16364373
>miniature suns

Anonymous No. 16364510

>>16364495
Presumably they have some gay tiny cost plus faggot vaccuum pumps that take forever

Anonymous No. 16364511

mission control has a really ugly room.

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Anonymous No. 16364512

Imagine if microsoft pushes an update to windows 10 during the procedure and it fucks everything up

Anonymous No. 16364513

>>16364507
No we don't

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Anonymous No. 16364514

wasn't this dude browsing a nsf stream during IFT-4? I think Starliner was doing some shit during that time

Anonymous No. 16364515

>>16364503
For elon its prolly because his main is too bot filled to have any meaningful threads anymore + can speak his mind more freely, for me its for breaking out of the algorithm bubble

Anonymous No. 16364516

>>16364494
>he knows 4chan
true, he must also know about /sci/ by extension. there's a non-zero chance he must have come across this general. perhaps he gets his ideas from this place.

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Anonymous No. 16364519

>>16364357
>I wonder what this LEO mission will use? Falcon-9? wow.
>I wonder what this high energy mission will use? Falcon-heavy? wow.
>I wonder what this speculative mission in 2030 will use? Starship? wow.
it is boring

Anonymous No. 16364520

Sick and tired of every dock and undock being done at orbital night wtf NASA

Anonymous No. 16364521

Calypso is coming home!
>>5634131

Anonymous No. 16364522

>>16364518
so this is the high quality footage we've been promised

Anonymous No. 16364523

Wait so were they finally able to force an update to get it to undock autonomously?

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Anonymous No. 16364524

>>16364208
the computer ring on the saturn V was painted blue and the name gets used a lot in military electronics to refer to some sort of 'main' computer, pretty sure in direct reference to it. probably the same deal here

Anonymous No. 16364525

>>16364510
I don't see the need for a pump

Anonymous No. 16364526

>>16364521
oops I'm a stupid asshole
https://is2.4chan.org/wsg/1722287706084914.webm

Anonymous No. 16364527

>orbital uber, if you will

Anonymous No. 16364528

ORBITAL UBER
>ORBITAL UBER
ORBITAL UBER
>ORBITAL UBER
ORBITAL UBER
>ORBITAL UBER

Anonymous No. 16364529

ORBUBER

Anonymous No. 16364531

>>16364526
M I N G I N

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>>16364518

Anonymous No. 16364533

I want some fireworks, come on boing, don't disappoint me pls sir

Anonymous No. 16364534

oh shit they actually timed it for SUNRISE

YESSS I LOVE YOU NASA!!!!!

Anonymous No. 16364535

Must feel so surreal to send off the ship you rode up on for being too unsafe

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>>16364532

Anonymous No. 16364537

I hope they ordered everyone to lifeboats for the deathliner undocking.

Anonymous No. 16364539

Crazy to think that this might be the first and last time Starliner undocks.

Anonymous No. 16364540

>>16364524
thats pretty gay

Anonymous No. 16364541

things are going to get more boring once private stations replace the ISS. there wont be any live feeds of (un)dockings, spacewalks, or even lots of public video/pics. and the little stuff that does come out will be heavily copyrighted and monetized.

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>>16364467
>we need to discuss what x-37b's true purpose is
to keep them from fucking up another civilian crewed space system with retarded requirements

Anonymous No. 16364543

everyone breathing a sigh of relief

Anonymous No. 16364544

shitliner detatched

Anonymous No. 16364545

wtf it undocked successfully

Anonymous No. 16364546

the parasite has detached

Anonymous No. 16364547

Here we go

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Anonymous No. 16364548

two short firings soon

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Anonymous No. 16364550

STAND THE FUCK BACK

Anonymous No. 16364551

>>16364524
Blue Origin is a cargo cult

Anonymous No. 16364552

So long gay bowser

Anonymous No. 16364554

>>16364527
>>16364528
new moon to earth landing strategy:
>aim for the center of mass
>be going 10km/s straight down when you hit the atmosphere
>activate ubercharge at 75000m
>land 7.5 seconds later
>massive impact crater
>ship completely destroyed
>uber expires
>crew climbs out of impact crater

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Anonymous No. 16364556

>>16364548
this is the part where it starts spinning out of control, like a nigger chaser

Anonymous No. 16364557

ITS MOVING

that was so cool to see

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Anonymous No. 16364559

>>16364539
uhh why would it be the last time? You are crazy if you think Boeing will cancel the project

Anonymous No. 16364560

lets be honest here, it will return fine. the issues were very slight.

Anonymous No. 16364561

Woah that burn was fucking cool actually

Anonymous No. 16364562

random predicition: during maneuvers a thruster will go bad and they will spend hours trying to figure out which ones to use instead to get it the fuck out of there, bonus points if it's a visible failure

Anonymous No. 16364563

>>16364559
That's insane

Anonymous No. 16364564

Oh no the thrusters are spazzing.

Anonymous No. 16364565

kino kino kino

I want starliner to survive now

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Anonymous No. 16364567

>>16364467
boing gibs for a boring thing that also basically forces chang to copy

Anonymous No. 16364568

>>16364559
It's not up to Boeing.

Anonymous No. 16364569

>>16364548
will it be visible on the stream

Anonymous No. 16364570

so far so good

Anonymous No. 16364571

>good attitude and control

Anonymous No. 16364572

>>16364560
Yes, DEI hasn’t gotten to the point where the actually competent people aren’t around to fix fuck-ups. This is about as much as you can tolerate, any more and shit breaks down a lot

Anonymous No. 16364573

>>16364559
Boeing wants nothing more than to kill this project. Contractual obligations might be another thing entirely.

Anonymous No. 16364574

>>16364560
Maybe but the risk was bad enough to move two astronauts off of it, regardless

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Anonymous No. 16364575

how many burns before they start overheating

Anonymous No. 16364576

>>16364566
that shit looked so fucking sci fi I hope someone make a webm

Anonymous No. 16364577

>>16364573
NASA isn't executing their choice to buy more flights yet.

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Anonymous No. 16364578

>>16364504
DANCE, STARLINER, DANCE!

Anonymous No. 16364579

>>16364573
is the contract public

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Anonymous No. 16364580

>>16364573
as far as I know, if they abandon it now they simply don't get paid

Anonymous No. 16364581

exited keep out sphere

Anonymous No. 16364582

>starliner has exited the keep-out sphere

Anonymous No. 16364583

>>16364582
not exactly the sovl level of
>Elvis has left the building

Anonymous No. 16364584

>>16364576
thiss

Anonymous No. 16364585

starliner will get a second chance if it sticks the landing too

Anonymous No. 16364586

>>16364585
Boeing will gloat so hard if it lands back safely

Anonymous No. 16364587

>>16364583
but just as final

Anonymous No. 16364588

>the ISS has a keep-out sphere
literally me

Anonymous No. 16364589

warning warning pollards inbound, someone posted sfg on pol
fuck

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Anonymous No. 16364590

this is like when Spock died and the end of Star Trek 2 and they had to send his coffin off in a funeral

Anonymous No. 16364591

>>16364586
>>16364585
Probably will. Nasa wants two spacehips.

Can Orion be used for just basic LEO stuff or is it way too expensive for that shit? China and Russia's next capsules will be for the moon and LEO stuff.

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Anonymous No. 16364594

>>16364575
It's the long duration burns that are the risky ones, the deorbit burn is where the real bread and butter is today

Anonymous No. 16364596

>white flight control room

Anonymous No. 16364598

>>16364591
>Can Orion be used for just basic LEO stuff or is it way too expensive for that shit?
It was intended to defray costs by using it for both like Apollo+Skylab, as part of the Constellation/Ares architecture. Unfortunately a Delta IV Heavy was not enough to get Orion's piggy self to the ISS and the Ares-1 was canceled, so CRS/CCrew took over instead.

Anonymous No. 16364600

>>16364591
>Nasa wants two spacehips.
NASA already has this with Dragon and Soyuz. The redundancy argument is bunk.

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>>16364590

Anonymous No. 16364604

>>16364232
Some Christian philosophers have speculated that the most intense torment in Hell is the result of complete separation from God.

In a similar way, the worst punishment for EDS sufferers is their estrangement from Elon itself. Imagine not being able to enjoy the Starship program or share in hope for the future.

Anonymous No. 16364606

>>16364600
Two AMERICAN spaceships.

Anonymous No. 16364607

>>16364600
Soyuz is a political impossibility. If dragon didn't exist they would currently be riding the death trap back.

Anonymous No. 16364608

>>16364606
That's just space jingoism.

Anonymous No. 16364610

>>16364589
did he have an Aussie flag?

Anonymous No. 16364611

>>16362832
PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT: >>16364607

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Anonymous No. 16364613

>>16364608
Yes.

Anonymous No. 16364616

>>16364611
When was the last time an American astronaut flew on soyuz since the Ukraine shit went down anon?

Anonymous No. 16364617

>>16364614

>>16364614

>>16364614

NEW THREAD

NEW BREAD

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Anonymous No. 16364618

>>16364611
Smartest /sfg/ user.

Anonymous No. 16364620

>>16364617
Kys

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>>16364617
early stage, though the format is correct and the pic is topical

Anonymous No. 16364622

>>16364598
>Unfortunately a Delta IV Heavy was not enough to get Orion's piggy self to the ISS
To be precise Orion was designed specifically to be too heavy for either Delta or Atlas to carry it in order to justify development of the Ares-1. At the start of Orion contract bidding most companies proposed capsules that could be lifted by then-current rockets but NASA rejected them all

Anonymous No. 16364624

>>16364620
>>16364621
not this shit again

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>>16364622
>Orion was designed specifically to be too heavy for either Delta or Atlas to carry it in order to justify development of the Ares-1.
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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Anonymous No. 16364627

>>16364616
YOU ABSOLUTE RETARD. LAST WEEK YOU INSUFFERABLE MORON NORMALFAG

LAST
WEEK

Anonymous No. 16364632

>>16364627
Get baited

Anonymous No. 16364635

>>16364624
I can take it. I made like 3 /SMG/ threads today. My first /SFG/ though.

Anonymous No. 16364637

its over, someone webm that first 3 min of undock, kino

Anonymous No. 16364639

>>16364489
clearly Russian, whatever it means

Anonymous No. 16364649

>>16364627
Some burgers are simply incapable of processing facts. It can't be helped.

Anonymous No. 16364652

>>16364559
lel, if Boeing was capable of controlling outcomes they wouldn't have shit their pants publicly and repeatedly on this project
but they have and therefore they can't and therefore what Boeing executives want is irrelevant and therefore your post is pretty fucking gay

Anonymous No. 16364653

>>16364419
Chaos, death and destruction.

Anonymous No. 16364656

>>16364611
>>16364627
So based

Anonymous No. 16364682

>>16364617
u r a f a g e t

Anonymous No. 16364733

>>16364423
That's my favorite first stage engine in KSP

Anonymous No. 16364742

>>16364622
Why is Orion so heavy anyway? Is it the stores? Did they build the thing with lead shielding because muh solar flares?

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Anonymous No. 16364750

>>16364742
Orion is fat as fuck

Anonymous No. 16364771

>>16364742
>Orion was primarily designed by Lockheed Martin Space Systems in Littleton, Colorado, with former Space Shuttle engineer Julie Kramer White at NASA as Orion's chief engineer.
>designed by a Jewish woman who worked on the shuttle
it's fucking cursed
might as well call it the Sacrifice Goy Dogs to Moloch Machine

Anonymous No. 16364772

>>16364742
>>16364771
the extra mass is required for the altar and stone idol

Anonymous No. 16364780

>>16364750
I keep forgetting that both StarLiner and Orion are bigger than the Apollo capsule.

Anonymous No. 16365066

>>16363377
not only that these faggots holding the cameras zoom in on this fat retards face instead of what bezos is pointing at and explaining.